Minister Meets Machine #4

Join Brandon, Caleb, and Dale for a little fun and a lot of AI sense

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Hey guys. We're back again. We're back. And we've upgraded our view this time. Yes, we have. So uh thanks to your sister-in-law. Sister, I'm sorry, your sister page. Man, what a beautiful place out here in Pulaski. Pretty amazing. It is a beautiful view, and our folks are getting to see it, and uh and we're getting to enjoy it. So it's a it's a good day. It is. Okay, so let's let's we're gonna we're gonna let's let's think about some of these chat bots, these uh AI bots. Um you how do you explain them to people? We started thinking about how you explain them to people, and I thought let's let's talk about them as uh as superheroes. Just in my mind, uh Marvel or DC, a little bit of both, or all of the above. All the above. I don't know what world. I'm in a multi multi-world. There you go. There you go. Not discriminated. Multiverse. I'm of the opinion, um, and y'all might agree or disagree with me. Uh is Chat GPT Superman? No, no doubt about it. Okay, okay. So unbeatable. What is Krypton out to it? But yeah, again, he's a he's an all-around superhero. Yes. It's just he's got all the all the features you want. If you're creating a character to be able to defeat most of the bad guys, that's that's kind of where you'd start. So most people I know when they open a chat, they can instinctively go to chat GPT. That's that it it it has a great voice, it has great graphics, it has it has a great uh great resources. It's not super expensive to get some. Was it the first big AI? It's open owned by open AI. Yeah, yeah. And so uh um Rainman. Uh Elon Musk. Elon Musk, yeah, sorry. Yes, we're gonna get soon now. Yes, Elon Musk uh uh owned it and and put a lot of money in it and kind of brought it into the public, I think. And then he regretted doing it. That's that's a side note. Uh so uh if if if ChatGPT is Superman, um, I guess probably second most popular out there right now, but maybe it's maybe Gemini? Or maybe Claude's Claude's, yeah, I would say Claude's probably way far up there. Um Inspector Gadget, it's got a lot of very specific tools that do things really well. And so when you need a really good solution uh to a problem that you're facing, you can I'm not too familiar with Claude, but I've been told that it's rather thorough. It is. I mean, which it seems like any AI you could ask it to be thorough, and it probably would be, but Claude kind of does it on its own. Let's see, is that a good way to put it? Yeah, yeah. When you need when you need an answer to a s to a question, it it has the tools to to get to that answer. Okay. Yeah, it's it's just able to it's able to give you what you need when you need it, but it's it's more I I feel like it's more thorough. So it's it's it's it's specific, but it's thorough in it goes more in depth in in what it does. It gives you a lot of sources as well. You can. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It will source very easily, and I think I find it sources better. You can see where it's getting its information more easily than with some of the others. Yeah. I like that. Okay, so we got chat, Claude, we said Gemini. What's kind of the after that we guess? So I would say uh copilot, okay, uh, which is a Microsoft product, yeah. A lot of money behind it. I know some people that can smack talk copilot. Yeah. So I I think I think copilot is Aquaman. Okay. Because uh Aquaman's really cool. Yes, but if you started naming superheroes, you'd forget about them. Yeah, I that's why I have a copilot. I think I'm I'd I use I use Grok, I use I use we hadn't talked about that, but I use I use all these different ones that oh I can do copilot, and it'll do some pretty good graphics and all that. Yeah, I've been pleased with it. The weird thing is that while while copilot is owned by Microsoft, it does interact with Microsoft really. And while Gemini is owned by Google, it sometimes doesn't act real interact with Google Google real, which is really weird. It seemed real natural everything, but it it it doesn't. Um and then there are a bunch of others out there, you know, like uh I'd be curious how many there are total. There's a lot of thousands of people. We'll tell you anything about perplexity, yeah. Perplexity for a while. It was a go-to. I think you introduced me to perplexity because it always gave you its resources. Yes, yeah, yeah. One that I got uh started off with kind of early was it, I think it's changed names. It started out as Gitliner. Um and now I think it's liner. I don't know if they had an issue there of some kind, but it was really good, um, particularly for research purposes. Okay. I haven't used it in a little bit. Um, but it I mean, if you asked it a question, it was gonna give you every resource that it was pulling from. Oh, that's and it was really nice. And so I need to look at it again and see if they've updated it. Um, but that was a good one for me. Liner is a uh is a rail system in England. Oh man, but so so Chat GPT, Superman, Claude, Inspector Gadget, Grok. We haven't really talked about Grok, but Batman Cluso. Okay. Um and then uh co-pilot, you've got kind of um a lovable character that that people just forget is there. Like he's he's there, he's he's kind of always kind of in the background, but yeah, yeah. Um so we we said kind of aquaman. He's he's part of the super friends, but he's not the he's not the focus, he's not out front. Yeah, so that's all the fun. We're gonna dig deep into this. We are we'll go into uh each one of those and look at them more thoroughly. Welcome to Minister Meets Machine, the podcast helping ministers use AI. So if we look at what specifics we have and and where um each one of those fit in, what I think people want to know and and ask um about is is which one is right for me, where. Yeah. You know, it uh we we want to know which one's gonna be the best one for what I'm doing and and not have to spend a lot of time going into using a chat bot that's not gonna give you the results that you're looking for, those results that you you really want. So um, Caleb, you're you use Chat GPT a lot. What and why are you focused there? Why do you think it's the best? Because Superman. Um well, uh chat was the first one that I got just kind of introduced to, I think. And so that's why I've got hooked on it and it's the my main go-to. Um, y'all are really going to be educating me here in a little bit on these different lots. Um, but for me, in the sense of it accomplishes the simplicity of helping me with um here's my sermon outline, how can I make it better? I need some sermon, I need some images for my sermon. Um, give me some ideas that could work. Where do I probably need a a um an image in this section of my sermon? Um, am I overdoing it in this area? Giving me some. Sometimes I can think of a really meaty statement for a sermon, but then I might put it in there and be like, could I word this better? And it'll I need an illustration, I need uh historical for something, I need uh I need a graphic. It just does all it does it. And and I think it does it, it does it very well, and it and it's very simple. And so um I that's probably the reason that I I have not done as much exploring as I would like in other AI areas, but I've I have used Chat GPT a lot. So guys out there listening to this or gal, yes, well men women listen, I've found that too. They'll they'll watch it because of you. So I don't know. But but if if there's someone out there watching this or are listening to it and they're they're just kind of wanting to get their feet wet when we get started. I think all three of us would probably say chat and be away. It's the it's the easiest entry into AI um research and tools, and especially in ministry, I think it's the easiest uh ministers get frustrated because they want one tool that does everything. Yeah, and and and chat would be your go-to, but but but it still won't do everything. It's yeah, and I I thought I thought about a good illustration list. Yeah. Commentaries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh if I want a good illustration, I'm I'm old. Okay. William Barclay. Yeah. Barclay does a good, I don't I don't agree with a lot of theories and ideas, but it illustrates really well. If I want a good word study, yeah, all anchor series, I still like anchor sneakers. If I want historical context, because Andrew and has some really good so different tools for different themes. And and we learn over time how to use little turbulence. As ministers, we probably should learn some of that same sort of thing. Yeah, yeah. Commentaries are only valuable if they're off the bookshelf, if they're if they're in here, if you're actually using them. Um, but if you only use if you fall back to um Kaufman every single time, you're gonna be Kaufman. Like that's that's the only thing that you're gonna know. And and we know guys that do that. We do, everything that does Kaufman, yes, and I don't think that that's giving you the broadest understanding of scripture. It's not it's not it if Kaufman's wrong, then then you're wrong. And and so, especially with AI, there's so many opportunities for it to be wrong, and so varying that experience. Um y'all want to mention some Chat GPT weakness, the kryptonite, you know. I know we mentioned that. I love that phrase for it. Um do we want to I think it's the biggest weeks I've seen is it seems to get things wrong more than anything else. It hallucinates me. Yeah, okay, that's all right. Yeah, hallucinations. Yeah, and if you're if you're sharp enough to catch it, you're good. So if you ain't catching it, but but I'll be honest, sometimes what I'll do is I won't I won't think about catching it. Yes, yeah, I got it. And it's oh wait a minute, oh right. And and it's not it's never I don't do that biblically. I'm the use of I pick up on that pretty quick, but it's it's some other thing I ask it about, you know. The other day I was trying to get somewhere of walking, I was trying to get to a certain path I was trying to find. Yeah, and it said it's it's uh it's uh just three blocks ahead. Yeah. Well, I walked a half mile. I think I ended walking like three miles to get to this place, and and it told me when I started how far it was. So yeah, yeah, just I think I think I mentioned it y'all, and I don't know if I mentioned it um on the podcast, but several months ago I was gonna put new transmission fluid in my truck, and I used AI, I used I used Chat GPT, which it keeps updating, so it does keep getting better. Right. But I nearly put the wrong fluid, and that would have been uh that could have been really bad. And so I'm I'm very thankful I double checked. Somebody said Chat GPT thinks like an energetic associate minister with 14 cups of coffee in it. So I I like um your idea of of commentaries because it does, they are tools. They we recognize commentaries as tools, and we recognize that you need more than one, but but we fall into thinking or believing that AI thinks for itself, and that it's giving us thoughtful answers. And so when I think about AIs in in in chat, I think about it as an assistant. Um, and so that helps me frame my ideas better in terms of how I use it. And I think chat is an assistant that uh that you have you have all these things that you want an assistant to do. And chat is the assistant that kind of does meets the minimum on all of those. Yeah, like not an expert, not well versed, not the smartest tool in the shed, but they they check all the boxes that you're looking very well-rounded, yeah and and fairly competent in most things, but you know, like with that assistant, you've got to go behind. Like you can't. I thought you're studying is Chad is Kayla. Man, let's move on to Earl and so let's talk about Claude because it's very well. I use Claude a good bit. So um I like Claude because it does give more well-researched answers. And and I didn't understand why, so I've done a little bit of research on that. So um, what chat does is it isolates a conversation. And so you ask it, you set up your parameters, your your prompts, and it tries to give you an answer based on on those prompts. But it's it's it doesn't have a lot of context, it doesn't have a lot of experience. Um versus which is one of the things that people can are concerned about with Claude. Claude, you download onto your desktop, uh, it it is able to index your files if you give it that permission. It's able to see everything. So when you're interacting with it, it doesn't just see this one question, it sees the general context of your work or your theory or your thought. And so when it gives you an answer, it's it's taking much more information from context. And so it's it's it's realm of understanding. We'll put quotes around that because it's not really understanding anything, but it's it's gonna give you a longer answer, a more complete answer, more detail. If if I need a five-page document that tells you how to do something versus a paragraph, yeah, chat'll give me a great paragraph. Yes, yeah, but Claude is going to give me, you know, all right, here's five approaches to this and a full page on each approach, and and do it and do it really well. Um and it it it seems to me that Claude develops my tone, my tone more than chat does. Okay. Chat's like keeps its own personality a little bit, yeah, but Claude makes it more in my voice. Yeah, it seems to feel it's been digging into your files, so it's more than learning how you talk. How you write, how you talk, how you communicate, and it's mimicking that when it produces something for you because it's keeping all of that information as the context. And and just like studying the Bible, the context is key to getting a well-thought out answer. And yeah, and Claude does a better job of that. This uh just this week, I was um I was preaching a Mother's Day sermon, and um I was preaching on Deborah from from Judges four and five. And uh one of the ideas concerning her background is that uh she was the wife of, and I'm not even gonna try his name, uh, but I I wanted to know more about that. And there's a big debate about whether she was actually married to this person, or if you take the the meaning of the words, it she was a fiery woman. And so there's this big big debate about it. And so is is a name the name, or is the name the meaning that became the name eventually kind of thing? Yeah, and how how does that is it a descriptor of her, or is it her position? And uh, and so I asked Chat, and Chat says, you know, well, there's two ideas, and this is why those ideas exist, and and cites some information, and then I go to Claude and it's like here's the history of how it came, how people discovered this, how it came about, um, why people believe this way, here are the scholarly articles written about it, and and interestingly for me, it really pushed the idea of of this fiery woman idea, and it was because a lot of the most recent work is being done in that discussion by women scholars, and they don't like the idea that you know she was the the wife of uh someone that that she was more it was more about her being a fiery woman. And so it's just an and you see all of that detail in Claude more easily than you would uh chat. Chat's gonna spit something up pretty much mistake-wise, it sounds like Claude is way superior. It and it does it. It's still makes mistakes. They still make mistakes, but comparatively, it sounds way better than chat. And it seems to me that Claude is a little less likely to draw conclusions. Okay. So chat will give you here's what I think, and that thinks a bad word, but best undo. Yeah. Claude will give you, as you said, several options. And it may lead you toward one, but it'll it'll give you the options with it's kind of like uh Trump releasing all the the uh the videos, the the alien videos or yeah, draw your own conclusions, you know. Yeah, yeah. He just Claude just gives it to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I like. Yeah. So what what's our next one? I'm gonna I'm gonna take you all different directions. Okay. Tri Codex. Um back three months ago in chat, sort of popping up Tri-Codex, C O D S C O D S Tri Codex, and I didn't like it. It looked difficult and complicated, and so I thought, well, I need to look at this and figure this out. So here's here's what codex is. Codex, you know, some people will like this, and if you don't, you don't have to do it, but it will gain access to your programs and use your programs to do what you want to do, which is crazy good. Yeah, because it's like all right, I need to search my text messages for a message I've been looking for. I spent three hours looking for we've all done that. Yeah, yeah. It'll it'll take access to it and it'll it'll find it in 10 seconds. Yeah. So, like, for instance, uh the scoop bar that we run, WordPress churches. Literally, if I get 20 scoops, which I get about 20 scoops every 10 days or something, I get 20 scoops off the post. It takes me a full day. It takes it takes 10 hours. It's time consuming and you it's it's labor-inducive. It's it's not hard work. You have to go in, you have to edit it, you have to then copy each field, pull it over, you have to create each form. So I took Hodex and gave it access to uh my Google form that people fill out and they submit a scoop and gave it access uh to uh our Squarespace site that where where where the scoops live. And I said, I want you to look at the whole scoop thing, I want you to get yourself familiar with it, format what we're doing, and then I want you to take the Google form and I want you to create I'm gonna take a minute and explain what I did. I want you to create me a spreadsheet that each uh item in the Google form Okay, so uh Hat Church of Christ, uh you know, Boulder Church of Christ, Smith Church of Christ, and the next line youth minister, next line minister, next line minister, both preaching minister, whatever. And so it each fit which would make it a whole lot easier. You know, I just have to go in and copy and paste. Yeah. Well, if you ever looked at the scoop blog and every preacher has done that, probably be honest about it. You're not looking unless the right place comes along. I know it's worse. So uh so you it it every line you don't you won't notice it, but every line it'll say congregation. The word congregation will be in bold and then it'll say hat church of prices, and it won't be in bold. That's what I think. I have to go in every time and I type, I do bold type congregation. It's just time. So I I thought, okay, I wonder if if if codex would go in and put the word congregation in front, in in that spreadsheet for the word congregation in front of in bold where I can just copy one thing. I don't have to do two shots right 30 seconds 20 soon. Then I thought, then I woke up at 2 30 in the morning. I thought, I wonder if I gave it access, if it would just create a scoop. So I gave it, I said, create a scoop in an exact format and put the scoops in and and and let me see it. I mean on the first try. First try. Okay. So I said there's I had 23. I said, oh twenty-three. Yeah. It took less than a minute. Yeah. And so now I just go and copy and paste. It took it takes about five minutes to post one. So it took 15, 20 minutes to post anything. Now here's what's kind of interesting. People send scoops in, and there's a description sectioning the scoop. And the description says, uh at the Hat Church of Christ, we're a church trying to serve our community and serve the Lord. We we're looking for a preacher. We we want a guy who is and and for the scoops. I don't do it in third person. I don't do it, I don't do it in first person and third person. It can't be we because. So it says I'll have to go in, I'll just check with a hatcher to try it's just looking for a preacher who will serve their community. So that's what it's like. So I do that. Take the script and put them in that that case that's going out instead of full match. Perfect. All 20 of them. All 23 of them. So Codex does and stuff like that. Um it it it'll take any kind of information on it'll go in. So like I add people to our Mailchip, uh get access to MailChip. Take a list of names and email addresses, put them in, puts them in. Familiar with Codex? No, I haven't used it. I know with Claude, you can do that. You can set up skills. So that and that's this is all like two months only. This is this is called every all of them are doing a bit of a lot of things. They're moving that way. Yeah, yeah. Um, and that is the whole idea behind um the Microsoft what's uh uh copiles, yes. Um, is that it it is ingrained into the things that you're already doing. So you're having a trouble, you're having trouble with Word, or you want help in Word, it's already there, it can just change your document or in Excel. But now it seems like all of the the different chat um bots are working toward integrating more and more and more into your workflow. And um, and those that's it is very again, very similar to an assistant. You have to train it, you have to tell it what you expect. A lot of times it's gonna make some mistakes, and you have to go back and say, hey, let's fix this, let's clean this up, let's do it differently here. But if you'll put that time into that, then you can just shove some of that work that way and let it do its thing. So so could we go into examples of how do we practically use these superheroes in the daily life of the preacher? Am I jumping ahead of ourselves? No, uh uh no. Um I know we said that and I can very I I I think chat could be used for most things ministry pretty well. Yeah, but let's get let's get let's get biblical real quick. Yeah, yeah. So the I I view the work of preaching from Second Timothy chapter four. I call it the three-pronged responsibility of the preacher. Preach the word, fulfill your ministry, make foolproof your ministry, do the work of evangelists. Yeah. So maybe an approach would be to think about each of those three areas and what what these various ones do for us. Yeah, okay. Number one, preach the word. So which so chat is really good for surface stuff. Yeah, yeah. Uh I need I need three points on eight. I need here's the verse I'm gonna use. Here's the approach, here's the title I've been given, here's the approach I want to take, here's what I kind of want to communicate. Help me develop three points from that. Because it's gonna go out and it's gonna scan whatever else has said about that. Yeah, yeah. And it's gonna give you some ideas from from that type of research. Um Claude's going to Claude's gonna do some of that, but then it's gonna take it and it's gonna put it in your voice, like you already think this way, um, based on what I've seen on your computer or whatever, that you already think this way. Here's probably what's gonna be most comfortable for you. And then it's gonna give you some some pretty deep um information about that topic. Okay. Uh, so that you can you can really build out from there, or you can ask it to build out. Okay. We we haven't mentioned gamma at all. Okay. Um, so familiar with gamma, go you aren't? I'm not. No, I'm not. Your data's fixing it better. I know, I know. So gamma G-A-M-M-A, it is it's maybe about a A I dot AI. A A O or A I, but just look at look up gamma. Gamma will take your notes and you copy paste into gamma. It'll create your slides. I think you might have told me about this one. 20 slides, I need 30 slides. And it won't create your slides quickly, and and now it's prone to a lot of mistakes, getting a little better, and they'll get better over time. But I mean in in again, it's all about the prompt. Yeah. I want cartoon figures, I want uh photorealistic pictures, I want uh first century pictures, you know, you tell it what you want, it'll it'll make it in that way. And and it and just uh so we're talking about how to use these AIs for preaching. Well, I mean, if you're uh I'm most preachers that I know put their sermon together and then do their PowerPoint. Yeah. I'm a little weird. I've got to where I build my PowerPoint as I'm doing my sermon, but but as maybe some guys do that. Oh, we're I've met two weird guys that do it. Um I've met odd folks. Yeah, odd folks. Thank you, chat. Yeah, but it also mentioned Michael Jordan so that more. Oh, there you go. There you go. Yeah. And and we're we're gonna spend an entire episode uh next time on building a sermon. Yeah. Like that, that is where we're going next. And and these we'll probably just kind of focus on on generalities there instead of on each specific interaction. But but within each of these tools, so I would say that um the Microsoft um co-pilot is more I've never really used it that way. I've never really used it to help research. It's always within Word. Yeah. Forget about it. It's in the water. Maybe that's it. It is kind of because when you're in that Microsoft environment where you're in Excel or you're in Word or you're in whatever, uh even from PowerPoint, it can help formatting or it can help this or that. But I don't use it to help create slide out of it. Yeah. I haven't used it. Using Microsoft PowerPoint and the the AI building, and it I haven't gotten a good slide yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and so it's uh I think it is a good description. I think they'll get a do a good job in calling it Aquaman because it it kind of stays in the water, it stays in its environment, and and that's it. But but generally that's that's a pretty good overview of um of preaching. So so what else? Um well ministry, work of ministry. Yep. So fulfill your ministry. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go a little way. I'm gonna talk about Ved for a minute. Okay, okay. So when I think of ministry, I think of stuff that's really not studying, though though your studying is a ministry, but I think about serving people. And so today, if we're gonna reach the most people, we use a lot of social media. Yeah, and Ved will make videos easily and take, you know, it uses AI tools to make them, but also we'll use the videos that you produce and make them better and give you different angles. I I've been very pleased that the gives you subtitles, things like that. Okay. So it's a a lot of resources are coming out where you've got um former resources that didn't have AI, and now they're in corporate cap cut. Um, I've used I've used their AI just a little bit. I use the free version. I'm debating right now whether I what do I pay for the subscription? Do I use it enough? Do I need it? Uh I don't I'm not fully convinced I have to have it right now. We're gonna need to do a whole episode on pay. Oh, yeah. On pay. Seriously on how to do it and what to do with it. Maybe even how to ask your elders about it. Writing that down in your middle. Yes. But but all these resources are coming out that former apps, you know, that would do great things and now with AI being incorporated in it. For instance, can you cut can you could ask it if you have the AI version to hey, cut out my, you know, we call them curse words at heritage, your your filler words, uh um hands. Curse words, that's what I call, you know. Um, but but you could ask it to do that, you could ask it to cut out certain areas, and it'll do that for you. And that's that is a blessing as far as getting those videos out. And so does it does does V do that a good bit? Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah, okay. Other other ministry areas that um we can think of. How to talk to people, um, practice a conversation with somebody who has cancer. You can you can you know set up chat or Claude and say, hey, I've got a discussion coming up with someone who's in this situation, and and how how could that go or practice and yeah, and don't let it make us dumb. That's right. All right, here's what I'm thinking. Tell me what the pitfalls are in this thing, too. Tell me, tell me what what's possible I've missed that I might need to think about. So don't let it do your thinking for me. But you know, you you tell it what you're thinking, and then let it help you out. I think that's great. Approaching situations with, hey, this is my situation, here's my current thought process. Someone is hurting. I have no answers other than I'm I'm sorry you're going through this. Can we pray? You told me about a difficult situation you dealt with a while back, and I won't say when, but a while back, and and you you put in there, all right, here are all the dynamics involved in it. How would be the best way to approach it? Yeah, great idea. And it can, it can usually it'll give you uh pretty good advice, usually and so, or at least help you think deeper about it. Yeah. Um, okay, other ministry areas or scheduling. Yeah, that's how it schedules also. Probably Gemini uh be really good for scheduling. You know, I've not used Gemini or sketching yet, but um it was it's pretty pretty neat. Uh there's there's a program I was looking at the other day, and I can't remember the name of it. That's awful. Maybe I can put it in the notes or something up or on the screen at some point. But uh it it it it does group scheduling for you, and it's it's AI to find out, you know, all right, these people said they can these dates available. Here's some of the best one to pick. But but scheduling so here's what here's here's an example of scheduling for ministry. All right, here's ten things I'd like to accomplish today. Yeah, that are they're all ministry related. There are a couple that are kind of practical errands I gotta run, but give me a good give me a way to hit all these and get them done most efficiently. Yeah. Where you're not driving to 10 miles one way and then five miles another and then five miles back because oh, I could have done that while I was there. It gives you the directions. It'll help you multitask. Yeah, you can take care of this while you're doing that or things like that too. So it's that's pretty helpful. Anything else before doing the work of evangelists? I've used before going that right now. I I have used um AI for the purpose of, hey, here's my here's my plan in this Bible study. I've got come up with this lost soul. Um simple simple as who is Jesus? Um how are you doing salvation-wise? Right. Um, I've kind of broken down, I think, to who is Jesus, who are you, what did he do, what must you do? Um, but using, hey, here's my scriptures I'm gonna use in this Bible study. Is there anything that I'm that I'm like, oh, I have to have that scripture before this person gets in the water? And usually it'll be like, oh, you great job, or or no, you might add that verse right there about sin or something. Um, so as far as Bible studies go, it's it's been a blessing there with with lost souls in particular. Um, what about y'all? Well, um, I think I may have mentioned of my friend Doug, who has uh who watched watch once watched the show the other day, that uh he's developed a tool where you put in all the information you know about the person and then it gives me possible ideas for how to approach this person and then the conversation with them and what to raid that conversation and what are the pitfalls and meters. Remind me what is the what is the tool that you can put the transcription of your sermon into, and then it will translate it. That would be um um I don't have a code. Plaud will do Plaud will do it, but but I don't know, did it do the translating? I think so. I think you can change the language because yeah, there's some that'll do the voice, and then I I think that the the transcription, it's it's not as hard. The chat will do the transcription. Is it what which one is it that can do the voice? Doug's the one who told us about it and told me about it, and I was blown away by it. And it's and him being a country boy, it sounded just like him. I mean, that's pretty cool. Well, I mean with Spanish, I could understand it, but hola I like so in terms of the work of ministry, I like so my brethren love me, and so it's hard harder to get constructive criticism sometimes. And um, and I can have thick skin or thin skin, but I still need to hear. Um, and chat spots are good about not caring about your feelings. Um and so if you you know, if you put in what you're doing or how you're doing it, it's probably gonna tell you based on what everything else it's seeing. Yeah. I I loved Lawn and Landscape because I finished a yard, I cut it, I could look at it and I'll I did a good job. Like the it's it's all there's not any stragglers, it's got straight lines. I get done preaching and I'm like, did y'all hear any? Like, did you hear it? Did you understand it? What and and with these AIs, they're able to to give you some kind of scale because it's seeing so many. When we do the sermon thing, the next show. I was I'll I want to talk some about some tools we can use to do that because I've I've got some some ideas on it, some things you've developed that's really sharp on that. Uh one other thing on ministry, uh, this kind of tool, put your uh church directory in there. Um keep it safe, however, you need to do that, but but change names, I don't care what you do, but uh put addresses in there and say, All right, I'm gonna spend three hours visiting today. Chart out who I can go see most efficiently in these three hours. Keep up with who I've visited and who I've not visited. And then the next time you go in, you you know, Sister Smith that you haven't seen in two years, because you just keep forgetting her, she was way out in the booty, and she she gets missed. Yeah. This this gets everybody. Oh, you need to go see Sister Smith and you've seen her. So that that sort of thing for what do you think might be the best uh bot there to use? Nothing particular. Probably Gemini. Um again, I've not used it, but it can because it can it connects to the Google products and Google Maps and Google Calendar calendar if you're in that if you're in that realm. It's a great idea. All right, so what else we got to do today? We're gonna talk about at least one um guardrail. So so as we're choosing these things, um, I think maybe the what we're seeing and what we're talking about is don't just choose one, don't don't just rely on one completely, at least become conversant with a couple and it and use them to maybe double check each other, um, fact check and and get back to those ideas. And um I can attest to it's it's it's easy to just settle on one if it can if it can help me fulfill a good hunk of my ministry that I need to do. Um and granted, I kind of have an old soul. If I if I find something I like, I don't necessarily adapt to something new. Sure. Um, but but the blessings of using more than one is something I I need to overcome, and a lot of us don't overcome. Very good. I think I think that's what's coming up next. That's good. Um so next time we're gonna talk about how to go from uh thought of a sermon to a finished product. We're gonna we're gonna work our way through how to do it ethically, how to do it, yeah, skillfully. 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