She Lost Everything, and Then Said "I love life." Here's What She Found in the Dark

What if the parts of you that feel broken, wild, or shameful aren't problems to fix, but the very keys to your wholeness?

Adrienne Abeyta is a professional astrologer, metaphysician, and what she calls an "adventure guide" — someone who has spent decades walking alongside people in addiction, eating disorder treatment, and profound grief, helping them return to the parts of themselves they learned to exile.

In this deeply moving conversation, Adrienne and Dawn explore shadow work through a lens that is both ancient and refreshingly honest. Adrienne opens up about losing her husband of 18 years after his battle with cancer, her own journey as a daughter of addicts, and how the grief that followed cracked her open in ways her training never could. What she found on the other side? A love for life so full, so embodied, it brought Dawn to tears.

This episode will change how you see yourself — especially the parts you've been trying to outrun.

What you'll discover: → What shadow work actually is (and why you can't "think" your way through it) → Why your most self-destructive moments may be your psyche's wisest move → How your astrology chart maps the exact places your shadow lives → The difference between healing and actually feeling → Adrienne's personal "stop, drop, and roll" practice for fear and control → Why embodiment matters more than transcendence

About Adrienne:

Adrienne Abeyta is a practical mystic and storyweaver with 24 years of experience in the healing arts, including an extensive background in addiction treatment and trauma. She specializes in astrology, numerology, and tarot to help individuals understand their essence and journey.

Her approach integrates shadow work with purposeful play, drawing from a deep knowledge of philosophy and the archetypal human journey. Adrienne’s recent work has focused on:

  - Breathwork and somatic integration
  - Pleasure retreats
  - Group shadow work and psychedelic integration

Believing that the healing journey is best supported through the medicine of play, Adrienne offers a unique blend of intuitive arts and professional coaching to support individuals and communities in their transformation.

Instagram: @adriennesoulsessions 

Website: adrienneabeyta.com

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About Dawn Elle Davis:

Dawn Elle Davis is a channel, healer, oracle, and transformational mentor with nearly 25 years of experience helping people come home to themselves. She is the co-founder of All Within and the creator of Eternal Self Embodiment™ — a methodology that goes beyond the mind to unlock the deepest layers of who you really are. Dawn is devoted to demystifying the world of healing and making it accessible, real, and deeply human.

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Transcript

Introduction & Who Is Adrienne Abeyta

Dawn Elle Davis 0:26

Hello. I'm so excited to be back with you guys today and share this amazing guest that I have, Adrienne. And Adrienne, I would love for you to introduce yourself and share with our guests and our listeners what you are all about and what you are up to in this world

Adrienne 0:46

All Hello my name's Adrienne I am I'm a professional astrologer and metaphys metaphysician I specialize in I I specialize in helping people return to themself and accept themselves I've worked

Her Work in Addiction and Eating Disorder Treatment

Adrienne 1:00

in treatment drug and alcohol treatment and eating disorder treatment for many years which gave me a lot of experience working with people with trauma and also working with people with deep shadows of shame and so I feel like what I'm doing in this life or what I'm up to is is really helping people come back to themselves to come home to themselves to accept all parts I have trained and studied in in all sorts of different psychological therapies but I'm really more interested in myth and archetype you know hence the astrology tarot numerology And so I see myself as a practical mystic and I what I do is I weave together the stories of people's lives both through their astrology chart but also what I help them do is I help them reweave their own stories by challenging narratives and by yeah integrating shadow parts of themself that have been exiled and bringing them home so that they feel so they feel really just so they feel We can say wholeness and integration We can say all of these fancy words but really at the end of the day what we're afraid of is we're afraid to feel And you know we're over over involved in healing without actually being able to feel And so that's what I help people do

Dawn Elle Davis 2:16

Oh, girl, like there just, everything you just said, there is so much that I'm like, "Where do I begin?" Because, one, I just wanna commend you for the fact that you worked in addiction, and you said eating disorders. Because I know that has gotta be just so energetically charged. I would imagine the training that you got in that. And the reason I say that, and, is because I have, like so many of us, I have dealt with addiction in my life through,

Adrienne 2:51

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 2:52

ancestors, my dad's in recovery, my sister's in recovery. And I say that, with so much gratitude, I also know how much that addiction can take away from people's lives, and the shame of having to confront, even to this day, my dad, when he talks about the past

Adrienne 3:19

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 3:19

it affected our relationship, he still gets tears in his eyes because he has so much shame that, he lost us for so many years or we didn't have a relationship.

Adrienne 3:28

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 3:28

you

Imbalances in Individuals Mirror the Collective

Dawn Elle Davis 3:30

dealt or worked in this field, you counseling people? Were you... Okay

Adrienne 3:36

Yeah counseling and supporting and you know eating disorders in particular are really hard yeah they're a really hard animal They're a really hard animal to deal with and I think in you know in that capacity and addiction as well both of these are imbalances And w when we think about imbalances in the context of the human being we have to consider that the human being is also part of the context of the community and the culture and you know the collective unconscious at the time And so these imbalances that show up or manifest in our physical bodies are also manifestations of imbalances that are showing up in the collective as well I mean we have a political system that is a reflection of that right now And so when we talk about this shadow work and this is what I'm very excited about these days is really working you know really explicitly with the shadow and i in and in a way that is both very poignant and very playful because I think that there's an oversaturation in how we are wanting to fix ourself And it's actually And this is what happens with the shadow is that it ex it sh it swings to these extremes And so in the one sense we're trying to heal something but we're trying to heal it from the perspective that is already the extremist And as an extremist we go about fixing in with the same mentality that you know caused whatever that said ailment is And so you know backing out of that

Why Shadow Work Is NOT a Mental Process

Adrienne 5:00

a little bit and understanding that shadow work is not a mental process It's not something that we are going to reason or rationalize but it's rather like it's a system It's our body's connection to nature It's our body's connection to others through attachment And there's a whole systemic process that we're moving through versus just trying to you know find the problem and solve it Does that make sense

Dawn Elle Davis 5:26

It totally makes sense, and I am with you because I don't believe that we need to be fixed. And I think that if I'm being really honest, there was many years in my life where that was the nature of healing for me is like, "Something's wrong with me. I need to fix it." And then I'm sure I didn't really see my clients as "Oh, you're- something's wrong with you. You need to be fixed," but I was always like, "Oh, we gotta

Adrienne 5:53

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 5:54

this out, and I gotta find..." And I still think sometimes, oh, I wanna find the missing puzzle piece, so much has shifted for me when I softened into this thought of there's already wholeness. It's about returning to that instead of thinking, that there's something so bad or wrong with me. And I think it's that kind of mindset that brings on so much shame. And I want to have you explain what shadow work is,

Adrienne 6:23

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 6:24

people might be familiar with it, and some people might not have any idea exactly what that means.

Adrienne 6:30

Okay Yeah I think it's an important Thing to define to put language around because again like everything in our modern culture things get really glamorized and diluted unfortunately so I'm gonna just draw from Carl Jung who was responsible for coining the the shadow and say that what shadow work is or what the shadow is first you know through Jung's idea is that we have first we have this ego and our ego has an opposite we know in life that there are

What the Shadow Actually Is (Jung Explained)

Adrienne 7:00

polarities and so with our ego there's also something called the shadow And the shadow is it's an autonomous force It's much like our ego It takes on its own psychic energy and it's compiled of all the parts of ourself that A we're unconscious of That's why it's called the shadow It's something that we can't see A lot of times there are parts that are unconscious So when people say I know my shadow I can see my shadow no you can't or it wouldn't be a shadow Part of the process of integration is that you're bringing what is in the dark forward into the light y the other parts are what gets repressed in the shadow and those parts are often we start at childhood and they're unmet needs You know they are desires or they are impulses or urges or things that went unnoticed or were punished or shamed So you know and our parents didn't know So when we're throwing a fit at the table with our brother or something and you know our parents are continuously punishing us and telling us You don't need to be like that Stop doing that Why do you have to What happens is that starts to crystallize in us and our identity becomes constellated around behaviors that will earn us or win us attention and love But then what we do is we take all those other behaviors that are considered bad or wrong or don't buy us the love and attention that we need on a survival level And I think that's what's really important to understand is that many of these complexes are come out of a place of fear and survival So again these aren't easy things which is why when we squeeze the shadow what comes out and how we feel it is that we feel these negative feelings like shame like fear like rage you know like eroticism All of these emotions that don't sit well in first in our own family systems Our parents or our peers didn't accept them and so we shunned them or we exiled them so that we could just get along Because first part of becoming

How We Exile Parts of Ourselves in Childhood

Adrienne 9:00

let's say mature is that we have to conform We conform to what our society what our peers tell us And in doing so we develop an identity that has expectations and also a prescription of what it means to be successful beautiful and happy all of which are not something that we developed ourself but were socialized and we were conditioned by And if when the task and development of our own individuality sexuality comes around and we start developing our own likes and our own desires and those are contrary to what other people namely like our communities let's say you know let's talk about gay Like I am interested in women but I'm part of you know this Christian community and I know that I'm gonna get shamed because sexuality is in the providence of religion you can see how there's all these intersections in which and this is I wanna just pause and take a moment and say that this is part of what it means to be human This is human nature right And all of our mythologies and why I love to work with astrology and the archetypes with us show us these stories over and over again just simply by saying that there's good and evil Here we have the creation of the shadow But then we have all these other really ancient beautiful mythologies in which like we see over and over again let's say one in which you know the great goddess swallows the sun at the end of the night and she regurgitates it the next morning You know this is again like we are being swallowed up into unconscious and it is the goal of us to remain conscious And so the shadow and shadow work what it is it's reuniting ourself with the parts that are cut off which are usually a little bit more easily accessible albeit they have the greatest judgment and morality that we have deemed them bad and wrong but they're accessible Then we have other ones that are unconscious that we're trying to integrate and recognize as part

Projection: How the Shadow Shows Up in Others

Adrienne 11:00

of ourself in the context of our community and our culture And so shadow work is really about it's integration but it's about wholeness It's about bringing in all these parts

Dawn Elle Davis 11:12

And so when you start to work with people in this capacity, I can't imagine that there isn't one single person that isn't fit for you, first of all, because everybody... I'm- when you were talking, all I could think about is the dinner table- and how I have my

Adrienne 11:32

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 11:32

who is in her emotions, she's very wild, and I love it, then sometimes it would be inappropriate, and I would say to her, "Hey, the dinner table, we need to be respectful. We need to have our manners." And so on one hand, I'm teaching her, but I also would think in my head, I'd be like, but don't stamp out her wildness." because it's... And I always was like, she's a reflection of the parts of me that I was never allowed to be wild because her emotions are just, ferocious in some

Adrienne 12:05

So So good Let's work with let's work with That is can may I work with that as an example

Dawn Elle Davis 12:09

Yes

Adrienne 12:10

perfect Like there the complexities in this is is beautiful And shadow again we also we inherit the shadow the unprocessed or the unmet parts of our parents In particular the mother right Because we have a great mother complex So I love what you're saying there in terms of we'll say this is shadow work So right first in you

Live Example: Dawn's Daughter and the Wild Shadow

Adrienne 12:30

what you recognize And the shadow because it is unconscious it needs to be projected So the mechanism of projection is what allows us to actually acknowledge the shadow It also has to be in some way accompanied by a great sense of feeling And so oftentimes those feelings they're charged feelings They're not always negative Like when we fall in love that's a great projection of the shadow as well But to stick with yours like that feeling first of Ugh here's my daughter And the first thing there is mine She's my daughter She's a reflection of me And so the bias here working with the shadow work is we're also first recognizing you have a bias as her mother And so you have all this unconscious stuff that you're projecting on your daughter It just comes with the territory And much of that unconscious stuff that you have projected the ones that are gonna be highlighted are the parts of you that didn't get full development that didn't get to grow into the light that you still feel a little bit of like ugh anxiety around And so to the extent of your own anxiety with those unum expressed parts you will experience it in the tension that you feel trying to control her wildness You understand

Dawn Elle Davis 13:37

Yes.

Adrienne 13:38

Right and so in recognizing that so now here we say This isn't unconscious anymore you have an awareness of it So we're beginning to draw it up from the unconscious But before we try and drop it into the mind which is what our Western culture wants to do is analyze everything and be like Got it Figured it out It's done Put it in the little shelf and I'm all good But then we forget that we d haven't metabolized then all the emotion and that emotion is what actually allows you to access parts that you have not been able to metabolize And so at first the trigger might be my daughter Why doesn't she behave like that Why doesn't she act like I want her to And the guilt Oh I just did the thing that my parents did to me I am such a bad mother How could I possibly do this And then the remorse Oh I need to be a better mother And then possibly if the interjection comes in and goes Hold on a minute You're okay feeling this anger toward yourself but have you actually felt the anger towards your own parents for right tamping down your wildness Have you felt the grief from not being allowed to be the wild sensual child that you were meant to be right And to that extent I'll go back to your initial question am I able to work with ev anybody Yes but I'm picky and I wanna work with people that have Yes in this time of my life I'm picky I want to work with people that have some level of awareness and can begin to inter interact and engage with the shadow right And so saying that you do then you now are with your own shadow of wildness and what happened to that part of yourself And if you can be with that simultaneously being with your daughter then you don't need to fix your daughter so that she has a better life than you did You work on yourself because then you loosen the complex that then sees her wildness as vicariously a return to your own

Dawn Elle Davis 15:29

Oh my God, your words are medicine. I'm just listening, going, getting so many ahas, and true. I was... Like, my, my husband actually reflected it to me. He goes, you have the same energy as her, she's unbridled in it, and you tampered it down." And it's so funny that you say the thing about, have I taken the time to grieve my own relationship with my mother? 'Cause my mother and her trauma, she wanted perfect daughters. And

Astrology Signs and the Nature of Your Shadow

Dawn Elle Davis 16:00

my sister and I, she'd always braid our hair and put like ribbons in our hair and do all these things to make sure that when we went to school, no matter what was happening internally, the turmoil in our lives, we always looked,

Adrienne 16:12

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 16:13

a certain way. And so anyways, it's just so funny 'cause I'm, it's like I'm 52, and I literally just in these last few months had this return to this grief of, oh my gosh, I am wildly emotional, and I have never grieved the fact that I wasn't allowed to be that because my mom... And I don't blame her, but she didn't have the capacity to hold it at

Adrienne 16:41

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 16:41

because she was dealing with her own, stuff.

Adrienne 16:44

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 16:44

And it's interesting because- That shadow when it's not accepted, like you're saying, because the truth is, Adrienne, my daughter would make me really uncomfortable. I would be like, and I would get embarrassed because

Adrienne 17:01

Very good

Dawn Elle Davis 17:01

it was when we were moving to Idaho and we're all blending as a family, and I wanted her to behave a certain way so that my husband felt comfortable

Adrienne 17:10

Very good

Dawn Elle Davis 17:12

And I was, like, noticing all this, and I'm like, Dawn, first of all, you are micromanaging everything." But it was my discomfort, my inability to sit with my feelings wanting, just like my mother, everything to look perfect on the outside

Adrienne 17:31

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 17:31

that I could feel safe. I just, I recognized it, but I still am, to the word that you used, I'm still metabolizing it. and

Adrienne 17:40

So good

Dawn Elle Davis 17:41

That was, like, a couple years ago 'cause things have shifted greatly.

Adrienne 17:44

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 17:45

But yeah, it's so powerful because I think, and I'm curious,

Adrienne 17:52

these

Dawn Elle Davis 17:52

shadows, when they're kinda

Adrienne 17:55

not

Dawn Elle Davis 17:56

dealt with or they're running rampant

Adrienne 17:58

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 17:59

your life

Why Sagittarius Rushes the Lesson (Dawn's Chart)

Dawn Elle Davis 18:01

can wreak some fricking havoc. I look back at 30-year-old me, and she was a hot mess express. I had shadow... I needed to do shadow work back then, and I had no idea what that was. I was

Adrienne 18:16

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 18:17

up my life. I took my life and I threw a hand grenade in it because I didn't know how to admit that I was unhappy in my former, that marriage that I was in,

Adrienne 18:26

उहं

Dawn Elle Davis 18:27

I was in the wrong job and

Adrienne 18:28

उह

Dawn Elle Davis 18:29

And so instead of dealing with the shadows and the discomfort and the feelings, I just was like, "I'll just destroy it all."

Adrienne 18:36

I love

Dawn Elle Davis 18:36

probably a shadow, right?

Adrienne 18:37

It is No it's beautiful It's it perfect I love it You're giving the best examples let me first just I wanna just first say I I just wanna honor you for your honesty and what you just did right there in that honesty And you and public honesty too Because one of our greatest fears is the shame publicly Because you know in the ancient times if we were chastised or we had to leave that meant death And so that's in our body to be s to be publicly shamed could mean death So I just wanna honor you Dawn first for being so incredibly courageous to be honest in that moment Because as women in particular as mothers we are terrified to say that we don't really like being a mom we don't like our kid we are so stressed out We are all the things that you know we're not allowed to admit And so even just acknowledging that you know I just I didn't like I didn't know how to deal with her She made me feel uncomfortable What you've just did right there is that the psychic energy that was kept you know repressing that shadow and that feeling you just released it So when again when we talk about bringing to the light what is dark it's not just going Ah I see it There it is No it's going Ooh and it made me feel uncomfortable and now I'm embarrassed and now Because when we do that what we're doing is we're letting go of all that psychic energy that has been meant to protect us right and in the protection of

When the Psyche Destroys the Fossilized System

Adrienne 20:00

our ego we've overcompensated And when we overcompensate to the extent that our system is so imbalanced the only way to bring back balance is to destroy the system So what you just said right now our psyche is actually so wise that it understands that if we get too fossilized then we need to fuck shit up And that chaos no really and that chaos because the creation of everything always comes from chaos And chaos is something you know you think about the myth of Tiamat and Marduk Like it chaos gets taken so that creation is created And so these selfdestructive tendencies that we have Freud called this the death impulse if you've read Women Who Run With The Wolves spoke about it as the predator There are all these ways that it's been spoken about how we have this impulse to selfdestruction And in that selfdestruction we have to consider what's going on internally for us you know Our system is actually trying to destroy itself right And so there's something in that experience and that engagement that is a pattern disruptor hope Otherwise it's this the other thing where we're just repeating these patterns miserably right Showing up in the similar situations just wearing different costumes

Dawn Elle Davis 21:18

Yes. And the pattern disrupt is, that is such truth because that is something that I'm adept at, initiating new beginnings. And, at that time, the example I give in my 30s, I was not conscious of. just knew that word that you used, I loved it, fossilized. I was s- stuck and hemmed into something, and without a deeper knowing of how to proceed forward. The only way I knew was to leave what wasn't working behind and go into the mysterious terrain of the future, it was great. I needed to do that. I wish I-- when I

Adrienne 22:01

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 22:01

back, I wish I could've done it in a more, diplomatic

Adrienne 22:06

Okay but there let's pause right So listen to what you just said And so much of what I'm doing with shadow work is I'm really listening to people And one thing that I learned in treatment especially when you're working with addicts who are many of them failure to thrive They have you know the the greatest wrap sh sheets of all of trauma So you're not listening They're not speaking with the kind of eloquence that you might expect from somebody else But listening to the words what I've learned is that you're not really listening to what they're saying you're listening to what they're not saying right And you're listening to where there are themes So I wanna just like to bring this to your attention So it's interesting that even in this moment as you look back upon yourself right And I'm just gonna be dramatic okay For the purpose of this right As you look back upon yourself lacking just a tad bit of compassion if you will right I hear that part of you in your narrative that is still judging the

The Planets as Archetypes of Inner Drives

Adrienne 23:00

fact that you didn't do it You didn't do it fast enough You didn't do it diplomatic enough It wasn't pretty enough right So there's still an air of judgment And what I mean by this is that what we're trying to clear is our biases but to understand that our biases are built into the conditioning This is where astrology becomes such a fantastic map because astrology is composed of all of these d I'm gonna say planetary signatures of which show us nature and nurture Not the argument nature versus nurture And so inside of us Now Dawn what sign are you

Dawn Elle Davis 23:33

Sagittarius sun.

Adrienne 23:35

Okay And what moon Uhhuh Aries rising

Dawn Elle Davis 23:38

Aries, rising and a Sagittarius moon. I have four or five, placements in Sagittarius

Adrienne 23:43

So do

Dawn Elle Davis 23:43

in the

Adrienne 23:43

double Sagittarius all fire yeah Okay And so f fire is the force All of these are forces Fire is the force that is concerned with moving forward with creation And so looking back is not something that they do fairly well And Sagittarians their shadow the shadow of Sagittarians because they are in search of the truth always in search of the truth but they're in search of the truth with this kind of impatience that doesn't allow the enduring sense of emotion that actually transforms our experience into wisdom And so their shadow is Great learn the lesson and move on Let me teach somebody else this So they don't always develop the depth but they have the breadth of knowledge that's out there right And so when I hear you say Oh I wish I could have done it sooner or faster there's the impatience of Sagittarius right And there's even the idealism that you even had the capacity to do that because and this is the most important part if we can't accept all of us We can't weave together that shadow which even means that the stupidest mistakes that we made which by the way sin actually means miss the mark And so every time we miss the mark it's just like when the leaves fall from the tree and they die and they fertilize and they mulch and they go into the ground Every experience that we have is as important as the next And unless we can value all of it we won't value ourself

Dawn Elle Davis 25:20

Yeah

Adrienne 25:21

what you said that acting out means that I go looking for love outside of me and success outside of me but internally I feel bereft I feel scarce I feel unworthy I feel unlovable and yet my addiction tells me I have to go outside of myself

Dawn Elle Davis 25:38

Your words. I just keep going back to you're s- you're so articulate in how you were describing this. And for our listeners, I think this is the work. if you're wondering what to do in your life, if you're feeling discontentment or disconnected within yourself, it's

Adrienne 25:59

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 25:59

this example Adrienne is helping me to see. You know what's so interesting, Adrienne? Everything you said y- I agree with wholeheartedly, and I teach that the, to, in order, you can only serve one master at a time. Either you're looking to- kinda towards the future and who you wanna become, or you're letting go of, you can't, you're, or you're in the past and you're kinda stuck. And so I'm always talking about letting go of the past and accepting and alchemizing it.

Adrienne 26:26

उहं

Dawn Elle Davis 26:26

But to your point, as human and

Adrienne 26:29

उहं

Dawn Elle Davis 26:30

as, you saw me so clearly with the Sagittarius shadow

Adrienne 26:34

嗯

Dawn Elle Davis 26:34

truth is that I am so great at seeing the big picture and the lesson and going, "Oh, that was so great,"

Adrienne 26:43

Good Go

Dawn Elle Davis 26:44

a part of me that wants to rush through it.

Adrienne 26:46

嗯

Dawn Elle Davis 26:46

I feel like in the last probably, three years of my life, may- maybe a little bit more, I felt like the divine just took me by the shoulders and was like, "S- sit down

Adrienne 26:57

உம்

Dawn Elle Davis 26:58

start be with everything that's happened to you, and you're not gonna be able to move until you deal with this"

Adrienne 27:08

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 27:09

it was, like I felt like I was sitting in quicksand or like sludge 2024 for the entire

Adrienne 27:14

Uhhuh

Dawn Elle Davis 27:15

forward momentum. It was all grief. It was all letting go. It was all metabolizing everything, it was extremely powerful, really challenging. But to your point with astrology and having the signs and that shadow, that, yeah, for sure. I...

Adrienne 27:32

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 27:33

So when you see somebody's chart

Adrienne 27:36

उहम्

Dawn Elle Davis 27:37

support them in their shadow work, are

Adrienne 27:39

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 27:39

y- you're, so you're using the planets as the archetypes

Adrienne 27:44

Yes

Dawn Elle Davis 27:44

in

Adrienne 27:45

So the yeah so the planets are the archetypes in that they are the innate drives within us And so for example our sun and our moon are the essence of you know the vitality and consciousness and then our subconscious our body and our memories And then all of the planets have these innate drives

How Adrienne Reads a Chart for Shadow Work

Adrienne 28:00

like Mercury the mind how we think how we perceive reality how we process information Venus how we relate what we love what we value Mars how we assert ourself what our desires our drives and our conquering urges and our rage really And so in astrology what I'm looking at and each of these planets are in particular signs like we just said with you which are particular themes Those themes offer opportunities for development but also talents that we have inherently that we're trying to develop Then there are aspects The planets make aspects together and those aspects are complexes And those complexes what Jung considered to be complexes were semirepressed memories that h that are charged with emotion And so things in us that we c we can't quite solve that we keep going back to and they keep like your wildness right That wild piece is gonna come up over and over again So in astrology what I'm looking at are where are the complexes Where are there things that are repressed Is there a propensity toward Pluto or Scorpio in their chart because that is the sign the planet of the shadow Is there an 8th House accentuation So all of these things string together the story of that person But most importantly in my interaction with them I have to sit down with them and I'm you know I'm telling the story of their life and they're telling me back and I'm assessing how conscious they are of themselves in the context of in the context of all their parts if that makes sense

Dawn Elle Davis 29:33

No. Yes

Adrienne 29:34

And so listening to that then w and shadow work I'm oftentimes I feel like I'm just like the conductor of this crazy orchestra And so it's Okay let's turn down that a little bit Okay but let's listen to how you were saying this and Oh what's coming up here and then dreams like the dream world because the shadow work is all in it's in the subconscious It's in the imaginal realm I s I have sessions with people and the next day you know that night they'll have these amazing

Grief as the Most Important Enzyme

Adrienne 30:00

dreams that they bring into session the next time We could spend an entire hour in that dream and now they just got all the wisdom and everything that they needed out of their dream I'm just the mirror So our we're Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 30:14

too,

Adrienne 30:15

Yes

Dawn Elle Davis 30:16

yeah

Adrienne 30:17

Helping people interpret yes like Socratically And we all again I believe that we're all so capable we just need the right enzymes And so I want us to come back to something you said a moment ago You said that the metabolization it was it sounded like it was supported by grief And I feel that grief is such an important enzyme Like grief it allows us to feel sad and angry and victimized and love and joy All the emotions like human emotions they're so composed you know in the experience of grief And you know having been you know going through my own grief process for these years now too it's been amazing how much freedom I feel from having an experience that I can just feel

Dawn Elle Davis 31:06

Yeah. I felt at times, because to your point, grief does contain so much. It's not just the sadness. It was a little depression, a anger, some rage all these things. And mine was... And I want to, I want you to share in a second what yours was around. Mine was around an identity coming to an end, 'cause I had lived in San Diego for 33 years, and when I left, I started a new life, and a new identity emerged. And I had to really sit with all the changes and the things that I didn't even were gonna come forth within me. But the grief, the thing I want to share with our listeners is there was a moment where I thought, and I've used this analogy before, that it was gonna be like a tidal wave, a tsunami that was going to wash me out. Like that I wasn't gonna be able to sit in that, 'cause I never gave myself

Dawn's Sobriety and Learning to Feel

Dawn Elle Davis 32:00

permission to ever feel on that level. I would

Adrienne 32:02

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 32:02

Part of, interestingly enough, part of what precipitated that was I gave up drinking alcohol.

Adrienne 32:08

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 32:09

I never considered myself to be an addict or alcoholic, but it played a role in my life that, if I had a tough week, come Friday, it was like,

Adrienne 32:19

अहं

Dawn Elle Davis 32:21

And I had that s- almost that Sagittarius nature was like,

Adrienne 32:24

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 32:24

picture, everything's fine. I'm just gonna

Adrienne 32:26

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 32:27

So when I stopped drinking, and there was nowhere to go but to be in this vessel

Adrienne 32:35

Uhhuh

Dawn Elle Davis 32:36

all the feelings, it was that sense of, "Oh my God, am I gonna be able to do this?" 'cause I think we, as a human being, we come to this point in our lives where we're, we have to test the waters of who we are

Adrienne 32:50

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 32:50

understand our capacity.

Adrienne 32:52

Yes

Dawn Elle Davis 32:53

it's like I've been doing all this healing work all these years, and it's if I can't sit myself, then what's the point,

Adrienne 32:58

Mmhmm

Dawn Elle Davis 32:58

And so anyways, I gave myself that year, and it was best thing ever, it wasn't, it wasn't always easy. And.. i actually decided to keep my sober journey going because it helped me not be able to run away from myself.

Adrienne 33:15

Uh-huh

Dawn Elle Davis 33:16

in that, and I... it's become such a gift.

Adrienne 33:18

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 33:19

So I'm curious for you,

Adrienne 33:21

Yeah.

Dawn Elle Davis 33:22

your journey, and

Adrienne 33:24

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 33:25

our listeners what,

Adrienne 33:27

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 33:27

what sparked, what was the impetus for your grief?

Adrienne 33:31

Yeah. I just wanna take a moment and just be proud of you. Be proud of you, that you gave yourself that you gave yourself what, you know, wasn't given to you. And, you know, those little tiny things that we do, exercise such big muscles. And I think part of shadow work too is not just looking at the pieces that we think are negative, again, you know, reinforcing that we need to fix things, but we also need to see where the parts of the beauty, the parts of us that were so beautiful and joyful and innocent, but also had to go underground

Adrienne Honors Dawn's Courage

Adrienne 34:00

because we were busy, because it didn't fit, you know? The parts of us where, I mean, you're all fire, so being able to, acknowledge and be proud of yourself, you're supposed to feel that way, you know? And by doing that, and when you radiate that joy of being proud of yourself, you actually give other people permission to do it as well. And so it's your job to do it, right? But if you grew up under this lens of "Oh, I don't mean to brag," or, "Let me just take a second to say I'm proud of myself," you do yourself a disservice. And then there the shadow comes back in with, hey, hey, this isn't about you. Don't be selfish. Don't da, da, da." So I'm just...

Dawn Elle Davis 34:35

think.

Adrienne 34:36

I am- I imagine, so I just wanna take this moment and be like, good for you, Dawn. Good for you. Yeah, feeling into that.

Dawn Elle Davis 34:42

Thank you for saying that

Adrienne 34:44

Yeah.

Dawn Elle Davis 34:44

I am one to always, I don't want to... I don't, I always think, "I don't wanna brag. I don't wanna..." But it was, if I had to, look back at the toughest life events, like I've gone through a lot in my life. I have a very rich tapestry that I've

Adrienne 34:58

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 34:58

through the years. I'm very colorful, and that was probably, in the top three

Adrienne 35:04

Oh.

Dawn Elle Davis 35:04

life was that year.

Adrienne 35:06

Yeah. And I love that too, because when we are in those really big experiences, I call them concentrated experiences, and in the concentration of that, they're little Petri dishes in which we actually get to reenact, you know? And when we're talking about trauma, and trauma as being something that is also the cause of m- a big cause for the shadow, a big part of that is that we f- need to feel a little bit uncomfortable so that it resurrects that haunting, that impression, that echo of that feeling so we can be with it. 'Cause what I heard you say, which is the perfect question, is, "Can I really do this?" Helplessness and powerlessness are the first feeling of fear. I can't do this. And if we shut down in that approach, we act out sideways, and w- we're defeated, right? But if we ask ourself, "Can I do this?" Now there's the curiosity and the question is waiting to see, can I do this? So in, even in that approach, you're calling yourself forward in a way that is allowing fear to turn into a challenge. Much like The hero sets out on a journey going, "Can I do this?" And doesn't know until you encounter and engage in these dragons and these monsters that all along, Dorothy, you were home all along. It was within you all along, right? But unless we have the right kind of friction and the right kind of experience, we don't get to relive that. So

Dawn Elle Davis 36:39

Oh,

Adrienne 36:39

to answer your question, yeah, go ahead.

Dawn Elle Davis 36:41

Yeah. I just wanna say that is so helpful for people to hear, because I think there's such a resistance, and feel like there's the healing where there's, the solving or, somebody feels, a sense of, resolution because, some missing piece is found out, and they can, kinda move forward.

Adrienne's Grief: Losing Her Husband of 18 Years

Adrienne 37:00

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 37:00

then there's the healing that has you on your knees, and the experience that I had, and I think both are so wildly important. It's not

Adrienne 37:08

Totally

Dawn Elle Davis 37:09

the happy kinda "Oh, I figured something out, and I just feel so much better." It's and actually, this is healing, too. There's no just, perfect way to go about it. All of it is so important. So I just wanted to say that, and I

Adrienne 37:21

Totally. Yeah.

Dawn Elle Davis 37:23

Yeah

Adrienne 37:23

I love that too. It ma- and it makes me think about, So I do psychedelic work with others as well, as I think it's, it's a wonderful supplement to shadow work, and it's similar in that way. Like, just because we're doing this doesn't mean that things are gonna be solved or resolved, and that's a really big one for me and My shadow wants to, "Okay, we're good. It's good. We fixed it." You know, like I'm Virgo. that's a big piece.

Dawn Elle Davis 37:46

Yeah

Adrienne 37:46

life doesn't work that way. so he-- So the grief for me, I'll say first, in my experience in my life, I've-- I lost my parents when I was young. I've had a lot of death in my life, and most recently, I lost my husband. We were together for 18 years. It was a beautiful, long, most healthy relationship, loving relationship, and in so many ways, the wounded part of my maiden, the part that lost My parents were drug addicts. I experienced a lot of abuse. I experienced a lot in my life. But through this love, through this relationship, felt so healed and loved, and I became a woman. I became myself. I forged a path in the world. like I'm successful. I'm l- all of this, yes. And he dies. He's sick first. He's had cancer, and he had an illness. he dies, and the grief that comes through is not just for him, but it's for all this loss. Not to mention that working with addicts, unfortunately, they die. You get really close to them, and they die. And so there's lots and lots of these attachment wounds. And through this experience and these last few years, I myself, like you, gave myself permission, you permission to just be and to let the clouds and the earth hold me literally, to just lay on the ground and stare at the clouds and ask all the questions, to watch the way that the sun falls across the trees, to watch the way that nature engages. Because my mental processing needs to figure things out, and I would've been better in six months if my old ego would've been allowed to heal, right? I have the experience. I've been through this before. I'm strong. I can get through it. blabbity, blah. no, no.

Dawn Elle Davis 39:38

Yeah. that's an interesting way that you said that, if you had let your ego do it the way that you'd done before.

Adrienne 39:46

yeah.

Dawn Elle Davis 39:47

But

Adrienne 39:47

Oh, yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 39:48

for your soul's expansion, you had to go about this one a different way. What was that informed you of

Adrienne 39:55

Oh,

Dawn Elle Davis 39:55

truth?

Adrienne 39:56

that-- f- first I'll mirror something you said. You know, as somebody that

Going to "Grad School" Through Loss

Adrienne 40:00

stands up in the community and says, "Hi, I'm Adriennene, and I'm a healer," whatever that means, I better first do that work, because I don't believe that you can take anybody further than you go yourself. and so knowing that I'm always holding that here, I am my own experiment. And so, throwing myself to the floor and letting myself really just feel, what that experience did is I had to ask for help, I had to receive, I had to not be perfect in the eyes of my clients. I had to not-- like, it brought everything forward in a more advanced way. So now it's like I'm, you know, I've, I'm going to grad school, I went to college, but now I'm in grad school going through this experience, and I had to. there was not a question of it. And so going through this and now being over here three years, the shadow work that comes up, you- same as you, like it's an identity death for me. This me that I knew myself as a wife and as a partner, and even very granular things like, you know, being vegan, these ways that I identified that were so held together by that relationship, the relationship not there, now I have a confrontation with myself like how much of that is me now? Who is this me? Who am I not in a relationship?

Dawn Elle Davis 41:16

Wow

Adrienne 41:17

that's, this is a part of exploration that feels very uncomfortable a lot of times. Very exciting. I've got a Sagittarius moon. Very exciting other times. But mostly where I, what-- the shadow work that has helped me is I don't need to figure anything out anymore I don't need to figure out anything. And, you know, being the daughter of an addict, like, I had to figure life out from the moment I left the womb. Nobody told me how to do it, where to do it, and if they did, I was like, "Fuck you, I'll do it on my own." And now that, like, burden of I gotta figure it out, I don't feel that anymore

Dawn Elle Davis 41:59

So

Living Without Having to Figure Everything Out

Dawn Elle Davis 42:01

I think for some people that could be wildly liberating to not have to figure it out, and I think for others use control as a coping mechanism, that could be quite terrifying.

Adrienne 42:14

That's me

Dawn Elle Davis 42:15

yeah, so what did you... So what do you channel that into? Is it your North Star? Is it like kinda what you're moving towards? Or yeah, I'm just curious.

Adrienne 42:25

Like how do I do that?

Dawn Elle Davis 42:27

Yeah

Adrienne 42:28

Yeah. How do I do that? first is when I f- this is a great question. So first I've begun-- I've trained myself to understand when my body is operating from fear. There's a tightness, a restriction that happens, my heart starts beating fast, and my mind starts racing with every single way to solve every problem. And so I know that right there is stop, drop, and roll, girl. Just stop, drop, and roll. Like

Dawn Elle Davis 42:54

that.

Adrienne 42:55

down. Just stop. You are on fire from the inside right now. You ain't gotta figure shit out,

Stop, Drop, and Roll: Adrienne's Fear Practice

Adrienne 43:00

right? so then that feeling will overcome me, and I have learned to just don't make decisions when you're overcome like that. Don't even think that you like know what color the couch is. So I just let myself be, and this is now the movement of energy. You know, that movement of energy, I first think like, it's allowed to be here. You know, there's, something called internal family systems, IFS, and they have a great model for working with these different parts. know, I like how Jung does a lot with the imagination as well. So I've learned to work with these parts inside me. So the first thing is, what do you think you need to figure out? And I-- humor and play are, they work for me. I've got a Sagittarius moon. They work for me. So girl, what do you think you need to figure out right now? What do you need to think-- what do you think you need to figure out? Have you eaten? What time is it? So back to the basics. Did you go outside? Did you get your sun today? Like the basics, the basics. If I-- as long as I know I'm grounded, I'm rooted, I'm well fed, unless I'm in the place to figure things out, I have no business letting my mind, you know, invest in real estate that I'm never gonna live in. And so I stop, drop, and roll, and then I let-- when I feel in that place of okay, so figuring it out, right? This is, this-- here's my shadow. You gotta feel it through before you figure it out. So you stay with this feeling. What is this feeling? And that feeling is then where I have to do my own inventory, because when I feel afraid, I wanna go after it. My fight or flight reflex, I'm a fighter. And so if I wanna tackle something right away, I know that's an acting out. I've learned that. So I'm like the same way I am to my cat. Like, it's okay. We're just gonna be here. I'm gonna stroke myself, and I give myself a little bit of time before I go into something so that I can know I cleaned off my bias as much as I can.

Dawn Elle Davis 44:55

Oh,

Adrienne 44:56

And-

Dawn Elle Davis 44:56

great way to be with yourself

Adrienne 44:58

Then the process of being with myself is where I feel like, okay, now I can figure things out. So notice here, the paradox isn't that I'm not gonna figure anything out. I mean, I got a brain and I gotta live. But it's what motivates that. Is it panic or is it faith? And I think grief is something that is such a leveler for us. It shows us what we truly believe in

Dawn Elle Davis 45:28

Yes, it does. Yes, it does. And right, when your amygdala is hijacked, when you, when our bodies go into fight, flight, freeze, all that kind of stuff, there is no problem-solving and getting the best ideas or downloads or anything. It's gonna I, when you were saying that, I was like, yes," 'cause I have the same, pattern and dynamic. And I've learned, because my brain always goes into "Okay, you gotta solve this. what are you gonna do? What do you"... and it's coming from this very frenetic, keyed-up place inside of me that it almost is op- operating, I would say, from like a level of desperation because I,

Adrienne 46:09

Mm-hmm. Yes

Dawn Elle Davis 46:12

s- I've started to witness and I'm like, "Okay," kinda like you, I have that self-talk w- as well. I'm like, "Okay, girl, you just need to sit your ass down." And

Adrienne 46:19

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 46:20

I'll go for a walk or do something

Adrienne 46:22

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 46:22

change that narrative and that energy because I- I'm starting to realize in my mature age that nothing is gonna get solved from there.

Adrienne 46:33

Yeah. Mm-hmm

Dawn Elle Davis 46:34

God can't even intervene if I'm in, the control room trying to, figure out the next thing I'm going to do.

Adrienne 46:41

Yep.

Dawn Elle Davis 46:42

I love

Adrienne 46:43

Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 46:44

So you had this huge life-altering loss,

Adrienne 46:51

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 46:52

and I see you on the other side of it and you're just radiating. And so you're just m- so vibrant and you have

Adrienne 46:58

हम्म।

Dawn Elle Davis 46:59

pouring

What Life Looks Like on the Other Side

Dawn Elle Davis 47:00

from every word you say. how is your life now on the other side of this a few years later?

Adrienne 47:07

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think there's d- it's like first there, the other side I don't know what the other side is. Like, I often ask that, and what is the other side of this? But my-- I think my, where my life is now, first, I don't understand time. You know? I, three years feels like I don't understand time. So I don't necessarily operate under the same, conditions of time. So for example, I, when I was working, I would see six clients a day. That's too much. Like

Dawn Elle Davis 47:36

Oh my God

Adrienne 47:37

therapists, you should not be seeing that many people. Like the amount of psychic energy that takes up is a lot. So now on the other side of this, I can't be with that many people in a day. It's, I, it's not good for them and it's not good for me. I spend a lot, a lot of time outside. literally just I live outside as much as possible because I feel that nature is so incredibly important and loving, and that's all I wanna do is just be held. So it's like I, I have often said, you know, I have this, I don't know, this relationship with pain I guess because I've had so much of it and there's a kinky aspect to it where I'm a masochist in that it does not matter what life does to me. It does not matter what life gives me. Like I love life. I love this human experience. I love my human body. I love my losses. I love It doesn't mean that I feel good with it. I still wanna punch somebody a lot of times, but even that part like I radiate because I am life and the shadow when we repress what happens is it robs our vitality, our libido. It robs that life energy and that life energy is always been something that has fueled me and it's what I have to give to others as well. And so

"I Love Life" — Vitality Through the Shadow

Adrienne 49:00

I take care of it and I generate it as much as possible and much of what I generate from i- it's from that, those terrible feelings. It's from despair. It's from sadness. it's from anger. It's from those darker places. I know how to generate energy from it because I'm not afraid to feel it because I'm not It's just something moving through me

Dawn Elle Davis 49:22

That is very well said and powerful for anyone listening. When you were talking about, when you were just saying right now, "I love life, I love every- my body," I got tears in my eyes because I, I don't know if our listeners are gonna be able to do this, but I can feel you, and I can feel your embodiment, and it brought tears to my eyes 'cause, it's, there's not many people that say those words on

Adrienne 49:45

Yeah.

Dawn Elle Davis 49:46

with that kind of conviction.

Adrienne 49:48

Mm-hmm

Dawn Elle Davis 49:48

in this world to speak like that and be

Adrienne 49:51

हाँ

Dawn Elle Davis 49:51

I love this life. I love everything,

Adrienne 49:53

उह

Dawn Elle Davis 49:54

not these challenges. I am in

Adrienne 49:56

हाँ।

Dawn Elle Davis 49:58

but I am not this horrible thing that's happening or whatever." And I think that's, such a incredible way to be with

Adrienne 50:07

Mm-hmm. Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 50:08

instead of life... it is challenging no matter what.

Adrienne 50:13

Yeah,

Dawn Elle Davis 50:13

it

Adrienne 50:13

and it's terrifying

Dawn Elle Davis 50:14

Yeah, it's, it's scary sometimes, and it sounds like from the time that you came to this incarnation to have parents that were, doing drugs or whatever was going on, like you're already on alert. You're already gonna have to be, like, scanning your environment and all these things. And so you've taken these things that have happened to you over the years, and you've allowed them to metabolize

Adrienne 50:40

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 50:41

and then to love it all. I can feel that from you. So I wanna ask you, if somebody were just, kinda new to healing

Adrienne 50:50

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 50:51

they've dabbled and worked with a therapist or done some things, but if they're at that, crossroads and they need to kinda explore, where would you s-

Where to Begin If You're New to This Work

Dawn Elle Davis 51:00

tell them to start? Would it be with an astrology reading

Adrienne 51:03

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think, I mean, with me, it will always be with an astrology reading because, you know, a- an astrology chart does what you do in therapy, you know, quicker. but I think if it wasn't with me, it's, it- therapists are doing this. They're doing it in their own ways. Like, you know, I have an eclectic approach because I have so many, you know, tools, so to speak. But I think that to start, you can do this on your own, it-- And the easiest one that we know of is that, you know, when we feel really triggered and we want to accuse somebody of somebody, you have one finger pointing at the other and three pointing back at yourself. And so to be curious about, what is it in that other that might also be a reflection of myself? Shadow work is something, it's personal accountability. We should be doing this all the time. To have supported and guided shadow work, you need to find somebody that is going to... Like, I'm very engaging in the session. Something you just did right now, Dawn, too, that when you told me that you could feel me and that it brought you emotion, that gave me emotion, and it made me feel felt. And more important than therapy, more important than all these medicines, we need each other. And so, you know, in that moment, you know, this, there's a, there's something real that happened in our experience. it, and it reminds me, you know, like when I was trained that I don't have any emotion. I don't bring myself forward. It's purely for my client. And I don't do that anymore. if we're crying, we cry together. I can't be a blank slate anymore. I'm not that. And so, and there's something more powerful in that. And so thank you for saying that back to me and reflecting that because it means a lot to me. I do feel that way. And so to know that it feels that way for you, right? There's a new constellation inside that I can walk away going like, "Huh, I feel seen." And we wanna feel seen. I feel validated. That feels constellated in me, right?

We Need Each Other: On Being Felt and Seen

Adrienne 53:00

And so I just wanna, I wanna say this one last thing too. we're so concerned with alchemizing and transcending all of these things that push us up. We live here on the ground in our bodies, and so we need to be more human in our experience and be less concerned with alchemizing and transcending, and more concerned with embodying and being, and that's lower. We get into our body in that way. And so I really encourage your listeners to not be afraid to embody, you know, the fullness, the richness of this experience that we came to inhabit. Myself, now I consider myself an adventure guide. I don't wanna be a therapist. I don't wanna be... I wanna be an adventure guide because you came here, we're here for it all. let's do it.

Dawn Elle Davis 53:46

Yeah. Amen to that. I just wanna say, when you speak to your clients and when you work with them, I have a feeling not only do you bring the loving, emotional transmission, but I have a feeling that you bring a level of truth without a fear to say it, which is hard to find. Because you have to be secure within yourself, and

Adrienne 54:15

mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 54:15

love the mission of, supporting and guiding and leading and healing others more than you do their e- their liking you or h- perf- yeah, it's, it takes a really embodied

Adrienne 54:28

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 54:29

to sit across from somebody and say, "Hey, I really see this." And they may have a look I guess I've done it a million times where people have this look on their face with me of "How could you? Whoa, you..." It's almost like I t- you know, not like an attack, but it like, it hits on a part of

Adrienne 54:43

Totally

Dawn Elle Davis 54:44

that is so vulnerable that it's ugh. And so I just wanna commend you for that, because I know of I've, to our listeners, I've never gotten to work with Adrienne. I am gonna be scheduling a session with you, because I wanna d- work with you after this,

Where to Find Adrienne + Upcoming Offerings

Dawn Elle Davis 55:00

podcast. But I know my dear friend Whitney

Adrienne 55:03

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 55:06

and the truth and the level of care and compassion that you hold, and I know our listeners

Adrienne 55:11

Yeah.

Dawn Elle Davis 55:12

So

Adrienne 55:12

Thank you.

Dawn Elle Davis 55:14

do the, where do they get to find you? And is there

Adrienne 55:16

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 55:17

up to currently right now

Adrienne 55:18

Yeah. Okay, yeah. yeah, thank you for that. It's-- shadow work is great, and that's where it is a little different than therapy is because the interventions are very direct and, you know, we cry together, we laugh together. But yes, I will call you out. I will laugh in your face. I will cry. I will e- all of that. the, I it's, it, I mean, it's real, right? That's what we came here for. You can find me on Instagram at excuse me, at Adrienne Soul Sessions. You can find me on my website, Adrienneabeda.com. I'm taking a little bit of a break with some of the group activities 'cause I'm getting a house renovation, but I do lead, group breathworks. Breathwork is another amazing, instrument for conjuring up, material. So I'm doing breathwork. I will be doing a group shadow work, a shadow work group this summer, so that I'm very excited about. I love doing shadow work in a group. It's really powerful container. the group ends up becoming the shadow and also the container. It's powerful work. I'll be doing that this summer. And then I'm also gonna do-- I'm gonna teach some tarot cards this summer as well

Dawn Elle Davis 56:22

Yeah, 'cause I know you didn't even get to mention that, but you love the tarot it

Adrienne 56:26

Oh, yes. All of it. Mm-hmm. Yeah

Dawn Elle Davis 56:29

Oh my gosh. Adrienne, I can't thank you enough. I feel like you d- basically led a master class

Adrienne 56:35

Mm-hmm.

Dawn Elle Davis 56:35

and the way that you were able to work with me and provide that kind of reflection for our listeners, I just, I'm so grateful. So thank you for

Adrienne 56:45

You're welcome

Dawn Elle Davis 56:45

and sharing all your amazing medicine

Adrienne 56:49

You're welcome. Yeah. Thank you for having me here. it was a pleasure