What If Music Is More Spiritual Than We Admit

Music can feel like a simple hobby until a song flips a switch in your mind and you realize it’s shaping you. We sit down and talk about Jesus and music in a way that’s both practical and personal: the instruments we’ve learned (or tried to learn), why some of us would rather use chord charts and tabs than stare at sheet music, and how growing up around worship music can slowly turn into a real love for worship when the words start to feel like God speaking.

We dig into genre and taste too, because “Christian music” isn’t one sound. We compare indie rock, alternative rock, folk, hip hop, and classic rock, and we’re honest about what we enjoy and what we skip. The bigger question underneath all of it is why we listen the way we do. Do we chase the beat for the dopamine hit, or do we lock in on lyrics and wordplay that actually says something true? We also talk about those moments when a track hits hard because you’re going through it, and suddenly worship songs become more than radio noise.

Then we get serious about the spiritual and emotional impact of music. What you put in can affect what you feel, what you think is normal, and even what choices start to seem “cool.” We share why worship leading can’t be just performance, why “don’t just sing karaoke” is real advice, and why a room full of people singing can feel like a tiny picture of heaven. If you’ve ever wondered whether your playlist is forming you, stick with us, then subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review. What song always changes your mood the fastest?

Transcript

Welcome And Who’s Here

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Uh welcome to the pod today, and we're talking about Jesus and music. Yeah. I kind of quit on that. Oh, sorry. Anyways, um today we're gonna be um Well Kayla's gonna be asking the questions because she is the Google Doc, but here we are. Not that it's like a questionnaire or anything. Well, it's more like a conversation. She just has the conversation topics. As all podcast starts. So who are we here with today? Uh who are we here with today? Uh I'm Leah. Hello. I'm Steven. I'm Bailey. I'm Kayla. I'm obviously Kayla. Obviously. Kayla's the best. So what makes us qualified to talk about music whether rather than everybody else who's does the podcast with us? Why are we the ones doing it? I mean, me and Kayla know like three instruments. Collectively or like well, no, you know three instruments and I know about three instruments. So hi though basics, I know how to sing, I can harmonize a little bit, and I am learning guitar. I don't know if that's really a big qualify, but I would say it's a qualifier. I don't know. Like learning an instrument would make you pretty in tune with music. Although it's still kind of confusing.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Yeah. Alright, um ukulele.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

Um I'm learning piano. I did drums for a little while, and I've done a recorder in ukulele. Oh yeah, I have done ukulele. I do know instruments. Barely.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

I guess just because I know like four or five instruments. Wait, I think it's a piano drums. I guess. What instruments are you? Wait, you know four or five? Um piano, ukulele recorder, drums, cajon. And uh I think that's it. Sorry, I I don't like the recorder.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

I the recorder? Everybody knows the the recorder's like the bass line in my life. I hate the recorder.

How We Got Into Music

SPEAKER_02 2:00

What when did you like when did you start music, Leah? Like what um is your background personally? I would say honestly, like, um the funny thing is like growing up in church I was so used to it. And now I just I guess I've learned how to love it. I guess only 'cause like God and his spirit, like, oh, this is God speaking to me. This is these are his words. Where anyways, but I started because honestly, I kind of just grew up with worship music. I started playing uh piano in um fourth grade. Um and naturally I got started on like the little like beginner sheet music books and I twinkle, twinkle little stuff. Something something something and like random songs that no one knows. She hates like what are those sheets you always saw. It's not the chord charts, it's no, I just hate sheet music. She hates sheet music. If I I hate it. If I can stay away from sheet music, I always will. That is the goal. That is the goal in life. Unless you're like cracked at it and you just look at it and know what the note is in like 2.5 seconds.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Yeah, I have to study it for like a week before I even play the first half of the screen. Steven, hold the mic closer to your face.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

I I I just know chord charts like closer to your mouth. They're those are easy. You look at it and you oh, that's when you play the chord. You do like a four count, which is six count. Do you know what the notes that make up the chord? I use tabs. I barely know anything. I use both just like regular chord charts, or I'll use tabs if I'm trying to learn something hard. Or I'll just listen to it. Yeah. I've also been I yeah, me personally, I've been How did you start? Yeah. Yeah. I've been really I've been into music, I guess, ever since I was little. I used to do little shows with my cousins and stuff. Um I did that too. Uh but I've been playing like guitar like since I was like nine or ten. Wow. I didn't like it. I think I started well loosely, because I started learning at nine or ten, but I didn't really pick it up till I was like twelve. The funny thing is you realize how musical you are as a child if you did plays for your family. Yes, I genuinely didn't know. We made open. I was in like one actual musical. I was in one actual No, I was actually I did some at my church. Julia Let It Go and then or not Let It Go, you were frozen. And then I did some at my church too growing up. That was kind of cranky. Yeah, I did like never being one play. We're doing a musical, and you're gonna be leading that.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Yeah, you should in a musical.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

I think I learned ukulele in like third grade and then recorder for the musical showcases our school had to do.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Musical showcases. That's what they called when we learned an instrument. We had to show everybody. No, not at all. Then we had to start different songs and we also had to like dance, which was horrible.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

I know.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

For like every year's class at the end of the year, we did something in like well, I forgot what month it was, but we had to do these like different theme things. So last time we had to do like some kind of dancing thing. We had like do the Irish jig and all this stuff. We need to get Steven doing the Irish jig.

SPEAKER_02 4:48

Did that like heighten your love of music or did it like lessen it? I feel like that would just make me hate it. Annoyed it. I don't like dancing in front of you.

Genres We Like And Skip

SPEAKER_02 4:56

What type of genre of music are you into? Um like what do you like to play in single? Well, I like I would love to learn like I guess like classic rock and stuff, but I don't know how to do it. The only thing I've kind of like the only music I really like played or like learned how to play was like like obviously growing up I did the dumb little sheet music songs that no one knows in these like beaconer books or whatever. And then um really I just play like chord charts, like worship music. Anytime I can I try to find something involving chords, or I just kind of learn it by ear.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Or watch a tutorial. The the I mean, I cause I don't I'm like, what did that when it yeah. Yeah, because one time I was like, Because when I try to figure it out by E, ear, not E. When it's in another key, and then I look at the video and it's like in the another key, and I'm just like, oh, so I've been playing it wrong this whole time. Uh but yeah, it'd be kind of funny. So what what about you, Steven? What sort of like music are you into?

SPEAKER_00 5:54

I like I could probably answer that question too. Alternative and things like that, you know. Like Christian music. Why'd you whisper?

SPEAKER_02 6:02

I knew music. I forgot to. I forgot to add, I I kind of got sidetracked on the chord charts. But um I'm I also like uh indie rock. Like in the Christian in the Christian in Christian genre. Not that I don't like like secular music, I just am kind of used to like Christian music. And I like the lyrics, like and other like pop songs, like I'm not the biggest fan of lyrically. You see, I wouldn't necessarily say Christian music is a genre. It's not a genre, I would say like uh it's just a like a style. It's a style, yes. I like that style because like lyrically I wanna I'm also sensitive. I can barely listen to like scar tissue out of being like I don't I I don't want to listen to this anymore. Anyways, but um Red Hot Chili Peppers Okay, Red Hot Chili Peppers is pretty good. Anyways, but um can I sidetrack again? But um yeah, I just like uh Indie Rock, I like Christian hip hop, I like hip hop. Hip hop okay and I also just like uh folk, I don't mind folk. Folks I love folk music. I don't really like country that much, I'm sorry. Folk music blaspheming. Um like Noah Khan, like that type of like you know Josiah Queen. Just like a guitar or like a banjo, and you're like, wouldn't Josiah Queen be kind of folk? I would say Josiah Queen is pretty much is a lot of fun. And Lost and Found, they're pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

What about you? Um I like a lot of genres of music, but I do like country a lot. Yeah. Laney Wilson.

unknown 7:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

I I don't know if I answered the question you asked before about what type of music you like. Uh the how you got into music. Did I answer that one? Yeah, you answered it. You said you've been seeing it and stuff since you were little. Oh whatever. I don't have very good memories. Honestly, I there's a lot of music I like. Because it's like there's some secular music that is actually really good, like lyric-wise and like beats, and I also really like Christian music. Okay, don't judge me. I like rock music. Do you like I love rock? Like I like Creed, I like I like some of what are they called? Um Classic rock's pretty good. Uh what do they sing? It's the like they sing Remind Me. It's Nickelback, I think. Oh yeah, Nick. Nickelback. Nickelback. Um I like Ben Simpoon, don't judge me. Um like John Michael Howell. He's not like a big artist, but never like a smaller guy. Didn't he do stuff with like Jake? No, he does stuff with like the Jake guy, the J VKE. The golden hour. Yeah, golden hour. It's your golden hour. I was so off key, but I do not care. Anyways. Yeah. How did you know if you were off key if you don't have a key we're singing? I don't know. I probably honestly I really like Toby Mack. I listened to him a lot when I was younger. That's when he was like really big, I feel like. When I was younger, yeah, he's been big since. He was in DC Talk, right? Younger.

SPEAKER_03 8:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

We were we were Toby Mack children. Like that's children. No, no, no. We were raised on Toby Mack. Like, that was his stuff. Yeah. Forrest Frank, I love Force Frank. Just because like everyone does, I feel like. Not a lot of people. I like. Kayla's a hater. Oh, yeah. I love rap. Like Holy, KB, um I can't get behind her. No big deal. I like um I like a lot of the stuff, like the same stuff that Steven likes. I like alternative, like the alternative. What is alternative rock? Um, what is all well so when you have like rock, you have different like classifications, I guess. You have like classic indie rock, alternative rock, you have hard rock, heavy metal, that type of stuff. I'm not into really I don't like screamer. Yeah, I don't, yeah. I don't like really super like I mean I like loud music, but I don't like heavy metal like Metallica and stuff. I like them, but they're just like yelling the whole time. I can't do that. Like horny, I don't really like uh I have a classic rock playlist. Like, you know the songs I was telling you about, like Todo and um Journey and Creed and Boston, all of them. Yeah, all of them. Are they alternative rock? How did Creed make a classic rock? Yeah, how did Creed make your classic rock? I thought they were classic. Classic rock is like 70s, Leonard's given. Oh no, then I probably named my playlist wrong. Because I have like Journey, I have like Don't Stop Believing. That would be classic rock. Oh, that's not classic rock. December? I'd love to. Maybe I should just do like rock. Creed and journey are like very different. Again, I didn't know that's different. I I I don't know. I just put it I just named the playlist wrong, I guess. I don't know. I like throw a bunch of songs you like in the pretty much rock, that music is the Google dolls. I love the Google dolls. I like the offspring. I just put old music in there, that's all. I'm blanking on everything. I like Creed 2, I like Collective Soul, I like all the time. Now I gotta name that playlist. I like Weezer. I do like Weezer. Everybody craps on Weezer, but I like it. I don't even know where that is. Like that one. Oh, all right. You'd have to play it. Anyway, it's good. Red Hot Chili Peppers is a pretty good band. I like the Rot Chili Peppers. I've probably heard like three of their songs. I know you like them, Steven.

Why Music Feels So Powerful

SPEAKER_02 10:56

What really what draws you into music? I I feel like honestly, just God wired me this way. Like I can tell. Like it gives you gives me like a passion, like he it fires me up, like it makes me want more. Like, but like not in a sense of like you're playing a video game and you just want more. Or like watching a TV show and you just want more. It's it's more like almost like God wired me to be like, I love this thing, like I genuinely like enjoy it, and it like it it like lights me up. Like that's what music does for me. And like when like I like the music and like the Christian style because like lyrically and a lot of times they have a lot of really good musical innovations, like they're in their style, right? And just like putting that together, like with the good music part and the like the good lyrically part about like talking about like God, like I genuinely enjoy that. Like there's this one song called Um Margins by this band Citizens I listen to. I also like uh Hopeful, they're pretty good. And um uh it's you stepped into the in-between, into the margins, where like he's talking about like he stepped into where we were, yeah, and so to save us, and I th Jesus, Jesus, not he, ge Jesus, you know. But yeah, I don't know. Hmm. That was a fail.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

What draws you into music? Um I like the lyrics a lot and like Christian music, I think that's what you call it.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

And music, I ignore the lyrics because I don't want to know what they're saying. I'm just like, let me just listen to the beat.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

Uh okay. Okay, sorry. What's going on here?

SPEAKER_02 12:41

Alright, Bailey, what draws you into music? I'm not sure really. I just like that. They just get all the dopamine hits when they start talking.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

I don't know. I guess the beat maybe lyric sometimes. Just I don't know. The way it makes me feel sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

Is honestly just amazing to me. The the fact that people can be so creative and like make awesome beats and come up with really good lyrics and it just like draws me in. Like, it's just like it's just like it's so such a nice like beat or symphony, and it just like yeah, like I said, it draws me in and it just like it yeah, it makes me feel good. I mean I feel like that's what music It all flows together.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Yeah, it all flows together.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

You put all the pieces together and it's one yeah, he who's like another thing with like worshiping. Like, who's he? Who is this man you're talking about? With worship music, it's it's so amazing. Like you just the lyrics are so good and you just get drawn. Oh, wouldn't you say there could be a problem with that too

When Music Shapes Your Mind

SPEAKER_02 13:43

though? Oh, you're right. Get in your feels, get in your feels music. Yes. Like there'd definitely be a problem with that. You know who is in charge of music in heaven? God. Lucifer. Oh yeah, the devil. Oh, oh here we go. I do think with the way music is and the way music can make me f make people feel, and the way it could like pull people to do things, I do think there's a spiritual aspect to it. Calan her depressing music. I don't know if I would be pulled to do anything. Well, actually, I don't know. You never know. Like I won't. That's why what you put in is super duper important to really look into what you're listening to, because that'll that will affect you. That will affect your outlook on things, that'll affect the choices you make, the things you feel. Even what you watch too, you know, emotions aren't real. Because what you put in is what you put out. What you put in the quickly said, garbage out. Quote Mr. Lively. I love NF, but after I listen to him for a while, I just feel depressed. He's so good. Yes, he is so amazing. Like clear clearly he brings down all my positive vibes and just so good. But then his new his new EP, Fear. I listened to the song. I'm like, this is so depressing. It was so good. It was so good. Don't judge him. Well, and it was a little creepy because guys over here saying he's schizophrenic or something like that. Don't judge him. I don't know what you're talking about. He's like, I may be schizophrenic. Like something like that. I'm just like, uh no. His lyrics are just so powerful though. Like, it gets to you. That is true in a good way. Oh, the song he had happy from his hope album. Yeah, I like he's like, uh, I wish I could be like happy or something like that. What? Sidetracked. Anyways, moving on. I was just using an example. Would you say that makes music sort of a thing that could be used for a lot of good and a lot of bad? Yeah. Because honestly, like I get into my feels very easily too. So if you start playing some like somebody died or something like that, I don't know. No, just some like sad, depressing song that's gonna make me sad and depressed. Going back to things like rap music. Yeah. Yeah, yes, you have like Christian rap and stuff, but what do you think's gonna happen if you're constantly listening to the rap that's like into stealing or drugs? You're gonna want to steal backpedrags. You're gonna start to get into that mindset of going, oh, this is cool, this is what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it'll go into peer pressure.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Maybe you should just take their podcast. Yep. Or

Songs That Hit The Hardest

SPEAKER_02 16:16

stealing it.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

What song hits you the most?

SPEAKER_02 16:18

Like worship music wise? That's so hard. What do you mean? There's so many good ones. Are you kidding me? Like, Steven, you're trying to kill me. Like, I have to pick one. You're trying to kill me on the inside because it hurts my heart to have to pick one. Anyways, that's what I meant. I wasn't saying like he's like just murdering me. I like um there have you heard of Rent Collective? Rent Col yeah. They have this song called Fight of My Life. Oh they're the ones who sing like more than conquerors. Yeah, but that that stuff's good. I like a lot of their stuff. Um Christmas. I like uh oh, oh, I just yeah. Oh casting crowns. I love casting crowns. Like lyrically, their songs and like I love it. Like uh East to West is like my favorite. And then I also like um one time I haven't listened, I always kind of hate on casting crowns because whenever I heard them on the radio, I was like, oh, these guys again. Anyways, because I didn't really like how they sounded at first, but then like um Mr. Lively one morning played um voice of truth. And when you're really going through something and you hear that song, it speaks to you a lot. So it reminds you of even though you have all these lies going through your head, it reminds you of the voice of truth that's like God. Obviously. Tells you a different story. Yeah, like that. And so, yeah, casting crowns, east to west, and voice of truth and praise you in the storm is fabulous. And like beautiful name. Oh, that's so good. Anyways, keep going. The beautiful name song. Well, I'm just saying in general it's a good song. But I don't I was like, I don't think that's a castle. What do you think makes someone good at music? God no, no, actually, because like you have people you can teach anyone to play an instrument, you can teach anyone to sing. But what makes someone like a good musician? I guess like they care about what they're doing. Like it's not like, ooh, I'm gonna play this cool thing. Like they go off tune or something like that. Yeah, I'm talking too much. Y'all talk. I mean, honestly, I feel like I've been talking too much, but I don't think I have. I think Leah's not. No one's talking too much.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

Oh, Leah's right when she says God, because God puts that talent in that person so that that person can worship him through the music he is using.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

I do agree with that. But a butt. There's a butt. There's always a butt. There's always a butt. I'm I'm also talking about more so like pleasant to listen to or like makes good music. Yeah. Because you can make music and it still just not be good music, even if you know what you're doing. When someone is passionate about what they want, like what they're making, like you can just I feel like you can feel it. And they're like when they actually believe what they're saying.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

Yeah, when they actually believe what they're saying, and that can be that sometimes not just like throwing a bunch of words in and calling it music.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

I heard this um guy on a podcast. Oh it was uh this guy, these peak group of Christian rappers I listened to on uh Apple Music, they're called the Indie Tribe. They just came out with the new album, It's fire. Anyways, but um this one guy, um part of the group, he's like the DJ for them. He was going, he was saying, um there are um there are a lot of like music makers, but there are only so many like artists. Yeah. There's a lot of creators, but there's only so many artists. Like that's what I'm saying. I feel like Bailey should talk about that. Bailey hasn't talked in a while. Bailey's just giving the evil stuff. I don't want to anymore. Do you not think you're knowledgeable enough, Bailey? Bailey, you're fine. What type of comment is that? Because I know she knows a lot about music, so I was like, don't, don't, don't she's fine, she's fine, she's fine. She just yeah, she said her mind. She's fine. Sorry, she's fine.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

Alright, what's next?

unknown 20:10

Awkward silence.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Do you have any awkward silence? I don't like the silence.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Do you do you silence going back to the whole how music can really speak to you or whatever?

Lyrics Versus Sound And Mood

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Do you feel a certain way depending on what you're listening to?

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Listening.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

I Oh, okay. Okay, that's fine. Anyways. Do you feel a certain way with the music you listen to? Like, depending on what you're listening to? Okay, sometimes sorry, God, but I don't focus on the lyrics. Sometimes I get really caught up into the the the musical part. I don't think there's anything wrong. No, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, you have when it comes to music, you have people who are really into lyrics and people who are really into like. For me it's like both. Y'all just listen to the biggest. For me it's like both. Depending on the day. It depends on the day though. When the music, like the the Citizens band I listen to, and like the Hopeful band, they're like guitar, drums, like the overall atmospheric part of the sound. Was that an attempt at a it just it does exactly that? It just it gets all the dopamine going, all the adrenaline. Was that your attempt of making an angelic choir? That sounded like a I differ from that. I'm very heavy into lyrics. I like somebody who can actually not just has like. I do like lyrics, but people who like play with like play with words, so like you know, making things rhyme that don't rhyme. Christian hip hop and using syllables and stuff. Um I find that I find that to be way cooler than the thing. Wordplay is like wordplay is so cool to me. Like in East is to the West. East is what East is the song by Casting Crowns that we know. East to West. It's East to West. Yeah, that one's that one's good. Like it's literally like what from one scarred hand to the other. Honestly, that's why people like going back to Christian rap. I do like people like KB and Triple. I feel like they do really good. Just got back into it recently. He could have. I I'm not sure. Oh, you don't you don't pay attention? I don't know. I don't pay it. I don't listen to new albums like that. I just find I don't listen to albums. I just find different songs. Am I the only one that listens to like certain music for a while and then you just look for other music and listen to the show? Oh no, that's like everyone. Keep switching between different genres and stuff. I keep having to make new playlists. Because like with the whole genre, I don't have a I mean yes, I have a favorite genre, but I like genre I music. I listen to almost every genre that probably I don't have a set genre that I just listen to. Yeah, I feel like like the indie rock thing I was talking about, how I like that. Like that's a newer thing. I just found out that I like that stuff. So yeah, it's fun. I feel like a lot of my music taste is heavily influenced by my my little By my father. We're all kind of influenced by our parents, honestly. Yeah, but I I view him as very intelligent, so if I listen to what he listens to, they'll also be just as a guess the song. Literally every vacation my family goes out. My dad literally just has this playlist, and it's always really good. It's like 80s music, pop music, 2000s pop, like Life House. No, no, no, I hate Taylor Swift. I just like Taylor I don't like Taylor Swift.

unknown 23:19

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

It's just not my kind of music. I just don't like how her sound. Hey, let's just play this with everybody starting deleting all the Taylor. No, I just you know the Shake It Off song? I heard that so much growing up. Every time I hear that, I just want to like bang my head against the wall.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

I like her older country songs.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

Same, same.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Do you guys don't you guys listen to a lot of like Disney Carols?

SPEAKER_02 23:44

Disney children. We grew up Disney children. Yeah, it's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

I don't understand like the Disney Carol song.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

No, Disney is so nostalgic. Like Milan, like make a man out of you. Such a good song. Or like Coco. It's so good.

Called To Worship With Heart

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Do you think do you think music is something God has called you to make like a not like a career out of, but like sort of a life out of? Yes, yes, yes, yes. 100%. Yeah. Well, do you think you you kind of like it? Do you think do you think it's something it's just a hobby or something he something he's called you to do?

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Like I think it's a hobby for me for right now.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Yeah. Yeah. Honestly. And that's fine. Yeah. It's kind of a hobby, kind of not a hobby. Because it's like, I want, I would love to write my own music, and sometimes when I have a lyric in my head, I just write it, like write it down or type it on. I put different lyrics and like my notes happen. Yeah. My notes app. And then they all suck, so I just get rid of them. My brain's too scrambled. I'm joking. But it's like I would love to do something like that. Because it's just like I would love to share what God has done in my life.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

I think, yeah, it is something God has called me to do for not like a career, but like it's like He's given me, it's what He's given me to you to worship Him and to use.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

And it's like Yeah, I do kind of agree with you. I don't know about I feel like there's other things I'm gonna do rather than just music, but I do think music is something God has put on my heart to like put like as I grow and stuff to be um just using it for him like that. Yes. Yeah, like honestly, yeah. Like I agree with you because it's like I feel like God sometimes puts it on my heart. Because it's like sometimes I'll do worship for my youth group, and I feel like it's hard, it's because I I want I don't want to have like a he I don't want to be heavy laden. I don't want to just be begrudgingly. I want to have a heart of worship when I just said, Oh, that's a song. Don't just sing karaoke. Don't karaoke karaoke. Yeah, don't just sing karaoke. Karaoke, but it's like I did it a couple weeks ago and I I I had the opportunity to lead a song and I was just like I just felt like it was so amazing just to feel his presence in the room and everyone singing, and it was just it's an amazing feeling. It's a different feeling. And also, like there's anything wrong with just having music as a hobby. Oh, exactly. There's nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong with it. But like with worship, like honestly, I'm I'm gonna answer that question. I just need to say this. But like I haven't done it in a while because apparently every time I sing my throat hurts now, and so I have to get that figured out before before I can start singing. Summer is coming up, we'll fix it. Anyways, but um, the times I've gotten to worship for me, it's like um based on like my heart posture, and like for me it's like people can see me genuinely worshiping the Lord, and they can see that and be like, look at what God has done for this person. I wanna know. Anyways, but um, yes, as a like hobby, I do want to go into music production. Like that's what I want to do as a career because I love I want to do what I love as a career. Yes, no matter what. So I definitely want to get into that. I do think it is something that I'm going to be doing for a life thinker. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

What was that song we played on Sunday that everybody joined in on? Revelation song? That sounded so good. That is sound. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

Yeah, when every the best thing is when everyone like they stop the my church does this sometimes where they we stop stop everything and just let people sing. Yes, I love it. Yeah, I love it when it happens because it's like you know how like in the Bible where they talk about all the angels are just like singing to God and like harmony. Well, that's what like heaven, like that's what it makes me think heaven's gonna be like. We're all gonna it's just like we're all gonna sit there, we're all gonna sing to him as like a group, and we all just get to praise God. It's like one of the most beautiful things ever. Right. I can't wait.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

And when you become like a Christian and everything, you can feel like not like not like feel, but like his presence. Yeah, his presence and then it's like an it's not it's like a new feeling that's people don't just ordinary ha ordinary. Yeah, you just want to sit there and have it forever. When people think you're going to heaven just to sing, it's like, oh wait, that's boring. But like when you actually go up there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

Anyways, um thanks for listening.

Final Thoughts And Goodbye

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Thanks for listening to the pod today. Um hope you enjoyed it. Thank you for listening to the classic. Music is so fun. We like music here. Yep. Um Jesus loves y'all. God bless. And goodbye. Bye bye.

unknown 28:19

Bye.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Bye. Bye.

unknown 28:20

Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

What was that? Ooh, is the book I'm a little bit? Y'all are weird.