A Failure to Launch into Blood Red Skies

Welcome to the Soft launch (you’ll know when it’s hard) of our new podcast: The Movie Boos! A movie podcast run by two boos about the movies that go boo and make you want to boo. For our pilot episode, we cover the foreign horror movie Blood Red Sky (2021) and the romcom Failure to Launch (2006)! Please don’t boo us or we’ll haunt you forever.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:10

I'm about to burp.

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I took a sip right before we started again. Alright. Alright, I'm gonna look at I'm gonna look at our pup while I say it. Alright, look into his ass. He's looking at me. Hey there, garbage ghouls and scream quee.

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Said that to our son. And welcome to the movie booze.

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I'm Jen.

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And I'm Dan. I'm sorry I hate the mic. That's okay, that's fine.

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And this is the podcast where we watch movies that make you boo.

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And boo at you.

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And this week will be no different than every subsequent week. No change in format. We are gonna give you one of the worst of the worst, potentially, and one of the scariest of the scariest. Maybe. We'll see. No guarantees. It's all disclaimers. All eagle. All disclaimers constantly. You want to start with yours? Maybe people will catch the theme. Maybe we don't need to explain it. Well, it's beyond the notes.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

The thing is, the two movies aren't always going to be connected in some thematic way. No. This week they happen to, so um because it's our first.

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It's our first. You always remember your first.

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It's our pilot episode, so we're watching a movie related to a plane called Blood Red Skies, and we're we're launching And what we hope doesn't happen a failure to launch. You can take a guess which one's the bad one and which one's the scary one.

SPEAKER_05 1:46

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's a hot take. We'll find out. Uh I sound off in the comments.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

Yeah, sound off in the comments if you have strong feelings. No, but I think we'll start off with uh the spooky movie first. Blood Red Skies is the name. I forgot. It's on Netflix. It was a Netflix movie.

SPEAKER_04 2:07

When did it come out?

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Uh 2000 uh This is also a pop quiz showcase. 2021.

SPEAKER_04 2:14

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Yeah, so it's it's fairly recent. Um should we give like a brief like stinger intro to it? Because I feel like it's a movie that it works if you don't know a lot going into it and then Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:29

I mean, uh it would be tough to talk about it without any spoilers for the major thing, but Yeah, so So spoiler now.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Yes, no spoilers. Uh the general plot is it's like a sick woman is traveling with her son to New York to seek an experimental cure. Yeah, to get treatment and it turns into like die hard on a plane.

SPEAKER_05 2:52

Yeah, something like that. Yeah. So like that that's a pretty good Yeah.

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Yeah. So like if that general premise interests you, I'd say check it out. Sure.

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But yeah, perhaps spookier.

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So check it out if you don't want any spoilers. Uh it's not like like mind blowing, but it is a solid movie, I'd say.

SPEAKER_05 3:09

I really liked it. I say it's that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

It's like solid. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:13

I thought it was cool. I thought it was a little different. I s I looked up like comparisons to it. Yeah. And um Snakes on a Plane.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Yes, exactly.

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Which could be covered on the other side of this, but we didn't do it. No. Um and then like train to Business, Busan Business. That one, it got like comparisons to that, which I thought was interesting. Because like tonally, I thought it was I think it's different.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

That one's a little bit more bleak, I'd say.

SPEAKER_05 3:41

Yeah, that one's pretty sad, but I could see why it would be compared to that, and I really love that movie.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

So I I could see that. Um I I guess we should. I mean, starts in Media Res and in Scotland, plane lands, uh Scottish police turns out very similar to, you know, the American police, and they're just ready to shoot on site.

SPEAKER_05 4:02

We were like, although we said if it was an American movie, it would already be Oh, it'd be it wouldn't touch down. Because it starts with a kid coming out of a plane on a parachute, and then there's like guns drawn on him, and in in an American version of this, they probably just would have shot him.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Which I I read that that intro with the kid is uh supposed to be like an homage to aliens with Newt. Oh, that's which makes sense. Like they they mirror some of the shots. Yeah. But what's funny is about the um the guy leading well, yeah, the guy leading the air uh control unit or whatever who's like saying, Hey, we should just shoot him on site. That actor, Graham McTavish, you would recognize him as uh the Santa Killers from Preacher.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Ah.

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He's also in the Dark Pictures video games.

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He does a lot of voice work for the first time right now. That's very cool.

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Yeah, he's he's an autonomous.

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No, and I pointed out that name because we were like, wow, like the Scottish movie, and there were no Scottish names, and we're like, oh well, at least we have McTavish. Yep. The one Scottish person. Well, and the Earth Traffic Controller had a British accent in the movie. Oh yeah. I was like, wow, our first character isn't Scottish.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

No, no. Uh but he was he's he's perfect for the whole thing. And he's uh yeah, he's in a ton of stuff. He's in the Hobbit movies, which I haven't seen most of those, but that sets the scene. Yeah, so and then it flashes back. Right. Flashes back, and you meet the main character, which this is another thing we should probably go over quick, is that the movie has a sub and a dub, but the dubs the dub started with the dub, and then we switched to the sub.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

So the dub I think it would have been fun either way.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

It it'll be fun either way. The Sun and the Dub is very ridiculous to hear. He's liked it. He is he's pretty hilarious and like screen bad. It's a weird sub though. If you decide to go with subtitles, I know some people will only want to watch the dub, but like it most of the characters speak English in the movie.

SPEAKER_05 6:09

It's like a mix.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

It's a mix, like there's Arabic spoken at some points, there's German spoken at other points, but largely I'd say most of the dialogue is English, so if you watch the sub, it's not like the whole movie's subtitles. It's right. It's a nice mix, but anyway, so For people who don't like to read, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 6:27

Yeah, Pat. Oh, okay. It's specifically.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Uh so we meet the woman and her son, she's in the bathroom shooting up some medicine.

SPEAKER_05 6:37

He's making it sound like she's like doing something nefarious. I mean, it seemed like it. She She took like a shot of something.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

It seemed like she was getting high off of it.

SPEAKER_05 6:46

She no. Well, a little bit.

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Yeah, a little bit.

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So she was also seemed in pain.

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In pain as well. And and while that's going on, the little boy meets this um Muslim man in the airport. I'm just thinking of the Reese Darby bit, but it is important to his character that he is Muslim. Uh and he's super nice, and they're talking about like sports and yeah.

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He helps the kid the kids in the airport by himself. He's trying to get through airport security, like get his bag checked, and then the guy helps him through it. They're waiting together. He's great. He's really nice.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

He's a really, really nice guy. He seems like a good guy. Yeah, I think it was Farid was his name. Yeah, Farid. Then doesn't really waste much time, gets on the plane. Yeah. Uh there's snakes now. Yeah, there's snakes everywhere. And then we meet all the characters on the plane. There's your classic like asshole character.

SPEAKER_05 7:39

Yeah, he was like hitting on the the uh flight attendant.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Yeah, he's like, I'm in first class, I deserve you to make love to me right now.

SPEAKER_05 7:49

He was just at the front of coach, like he was at the front of coach. But he was the only one there.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

He was the only one in that section. That was weird. It might as well be first class if you have an entire section to the plane.

SPEAKER_05 8:01

Yeah, it seemed pretty sweet, actually. He had a lot of leg room. I was pretty jealous.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

I think that's what the cockpit is. The cockpit is ultimate first class.

SPEAKER_05 8:09

First class, first responsibility. First first class. And you meet some of the flight attendants, and there's one who's kind of over the top and hit on the Yeah, there's a male flight attendant who's like g basically the female attendant that he hits on, she's like, actually, you're gonna help this guy, and then he sort of hams it up and it's like then the guy's annoyed that the the male flight attendant's helping him instead.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

And like very shortly after that, we find out that that flight attendant is just a psychopath, and he is by far the craziest person in the movie. Like he he stabs one of the other flight attendants, they go around.

SPEAKER_05 8:48

He stabs a passenger. He stabs a passenger, yeah. He's a part well, yeah. I mean, I guess what's the other thing.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Well, this is when it starts escalating.

SPEAKER_05 8:54

Yeah, it starts escalating immediately. We find out. It starts turning in a diehard. And he's the new flight attendant, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh no, he was plotting with the people who are now trying to like hijack this plane.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

Like they start finding out um where all the air marshals are, they know there's three of them.

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They're like start killing them or like taking them out.

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Like they like go to the cockpit, and it turns out the co-pilot's in on it too. He's drugged the pilot.

SPEAKER_05 9:19

They're always in on it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

With the description of Die Hard on the Plane, it starts again. Well, you're like, alright, well, who's going to be the John McClain? Air Marshalls are taken out, the pilots are taken out. Yeah. We got that nice guy who talked to the kid, but like he didn't he doesn't really seem like a tough guy. We don't know his background, but uh and then stepping up. Meanwhile, the mom's she was in the bathroom at the time, right? Chewing up some more of that medicine.

SPEAKER_05 9:45

No, no, no, no, no. She was in her seat that the kid her son. This kid. Yeah, the son does not listen. So I guess this is a horror story for like young parents who have young children of like, imagine you're in a very tense, hostile situation, and then your kid just decides, I'm just gonna do whatever I want right now.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

Yeah, so the kid 100% of the time it backfires.

SPEAKER_05 10:13

Yeah, so the kid just like tries to run up the aisle or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Yeah, because he was looking at the seat. He was looking at like a map of the plane, and he's like, Oh, there's the cargo hole. If we run back there, we can go there, kind of. And the mom's like, No, no, that's a bad idea.

SPEAKER_05 10:28

Put your hands down, sh like, shut up, be quiet, don't draw attention to yourself. And he's like, see a mom, and starts going. So then she's like, Well, damn, I have to go after this kid. And then that's when the crazy Yeah, she gets gunned down.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Yeah. Flight attendant. Was nuts. But then then, you know, f freed, he comes, he helps out the kid. He's like, Oh, it's okay, don't don't look at your mom. They frame him as a terrorist, which I think is also important because that ties into the opening scene. Yes. Where they have him read this statement that makes it seem like oh, they're gonna do some terrorist attack.

SPEAKER_05 11:02

They do some racist thing where they take all of the passengers who appear to be of Arabic descent and potentially uh Muslim, and they have them all read in Arabic.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:16

And then there just happens to be like only one of them who reads fluently.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:22

And so they make him read this message basically so that they have something to use to like see that it was like, oh, this is a terrorist plot from like this specific group. And he does I won't say what it is, but he does something very this character does something like very cool um to try to like flip the script on them.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:43

Um, and that's when you're like, Oh, okay, this guy he's gonna have to get around. This guy's the guy to keep an eye on. He's gonna come up with some cool stuff to try to get them out of this.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Like he he seems like he's gonna be a good character just based off that scene. But yeah, and and And that's why Dan said that he was Muslim, not because Yes, because it was important because it is relevant, they're trying to frame him. Ray around then is when it starts to pick up. I'd say this is like 35 minutes in, 40 minutes in.

SPEAKER_05 12:09

Pretty early in.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Pretty pretty early in. It's a two-hour movie, so it's like 40 minutes in or so. They go in the uh the cargo hold and they're trying to blow open the plane. I think they're trying to do some they they never fully explain their plot.

SPEAKER_05 12:25

They just kind of cover like potential So my take on it is that they were pretty bad hijackers.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Oh, they were terrible.

SPEAKER_05 12:32

As somebody who's a planner and professionally plans for all contingencies, they seem to have planned for very few.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:40

And it was never clear how this plan was really gonna work and what the ultimate goal was of the plan.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Well, I thought that was funny because they even have like the passengers speculating on what their overall plan is. And it's like those all sound like good plans. I don't think that those guys thought any of them.

SPEAKER_05 12:57

I don't think they've thought it through, which may be scarier to think of like, oh gosh, these guys are just winging it out here. These are not professionals, they don't know what the hell they're doing. They're just panicked and everything's going wrong, and they're very reactive, which is probably scarier than someone who's a bit more like cool under pressure and methodical.

SPEAKER_01 13:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:22

So maybe that's scary to you. I don't know if terrorism scares you.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Now, if we're looking for where the real horror comes in, yeah, that's not the scary part. That's the misdirect. Warning for anybody that you know is like us and is a dog lover. Oh. They are not good to the dogs in this movie. No, they're not. Uh they frame a dog in this movie. They f they the the hero of the story frames a dog so that it gets like killed.

SPEAKER_05 13:47

Like There was a point in the movie where we were like, oh, so there are no heroes.

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And it was after this point.

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So everyone's bad.

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Where where the hero of the tale was like, I'm gonna make it look like a dog at this, and then the bad guys did think the dog did it. That's a horrible thing that happens, but it transits the most horrific thing.

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It was frame a dog for a crime they did not commit.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

But not even just one dog, two dogs.

SPEAKER_05 14:12

Well, something else happened to that.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Yeah, the other dog, it's a smaller dog.

SPEAKER_05 14:16

And this is where we say it that way. Because of what happened. It matters. Oh, so it's life. It's life matters less than a small dog.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

No, because of what happens. So the woman who is sick, we get a flashback to like her life before this and how she got the illness, and it turns out she's a vampire. Yeah. They pull a full sinner's full from dust till dawn.

SPEAKER_05 14:42

So the treatment is she's trying to reverse her vampirism. Yes. But when she doesn't take her medicine, she starts to get a little nosperous.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

When she's injured, she can heal herself by consuming blood. Oh, yeah. Uh, and so this is why the dog size matters, because she consumes the dog. The little one.

SPEAKER_05 15:03

But it's a small dog, so Dan doesn't care about.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

No, no, it it's small, so it doesn't heal her fully, I feel like.

SPEAKER_05 15:08

Okay. Oh, I didn't catch that.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

I think that's it, because then she has to take out the guy.

SPEAKER_05 15:13

It was basically like blood was like steroids for her, where it was like she is trying or like she was an addict. She's not, she wasn't, but like the idea of like she, if she gets a taste of blood, all of a sudden, she's like roided up, she's super strong, and she's unstoppable. Yeah. And so it seems like she may be just down and out, and then all of a sudden And then she's back up. She rips off that wig. So the this is where the movie really She says, hold my wig, and she starts taking out these guys.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Oh, yeah. And this is where it really takes off, and I'd say we can start being a little bit more loose with the discussion because it's mostly just a lot of that vampire versus hijackers. It's played very straight, I'd say, for the most part. And it's pretty great because, like, obviously, all the passengers are terrified of the psychopathic uh hijackers who are like threatening to kill kids, they're killing dogs and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 16:11

It's already an incredibly scary situation. Now imagine something you find out that your only chance of survival is a is a woman who has newly claimed her identity as a vampire and is learning how to control it in real time.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

And like you said, she's a creepy looking one. Like she's bald, she's got the pointy ears, her eyes. Super creeped, um, as we know. Yeah, I don't know a non-creepy bald person. Um the passengers are terrified of her.

SPEAKER_05 16:48

She's so is her son, by the way, who also just learned that his mom's a vampire. I don't know. I think he knew.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

I think he knew because like he's like, that's my mom. She's fine. He knows his mom. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:00

A child knows their mother.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

See, I I took it as like he knew going into it, and he's like, We're gonna get you fixed. But I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 17:07

I think he knew I think he knew more than she thought he knew, but she was keeping a lot, she was keeping it from him. He knew that something was wrong with her, and I think he sort of accepted, oh yeah, she's this makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

I took it as he knew she was a vampire because like I I think hiding it. She was drinking like blood in like the apartment and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 17:27

Yeah, but he was a baby then. Yeah, but it started when he was young. It was just what he was.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

How often was she doing that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 17:32

He didn't he didn't put two and two together. Yeah. This kid was figuring it out.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

I mean, we've established the kid's not smart. He's not a smart kid. That's what I mean. Elias was his name.

SPEAKER_05 17:41

Can I say my major gripe with the movie?

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Sure.

SPEAKER_05 17:44

How quickly someone can be transformed into a vampire.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

I kind of like that though. It was funny because it was almost instant. Because it's like it's like, oh, it's the vampire taking out all the hijackers, but if she takes them out by biting them, they come back as vampires and now she's created vampire hijackers.

SPEAKER_05 18:01

And now she has a stronger animated bite. But she just kept doing it. She just kept doing like one rip of the neck, taking a little sippy sip, moving on, and it's just like, what do you finish them off?

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Yep. Yep. Nope. She did it to like one of them, and then she's just like, Good, I've solved that problem. Now let me do it five more times.

SPEAKER_05 18:22

Yeah, and let me just turn this whole plane into vampires. Why don't you? Yeah, so that was crazy to me. And I feel like when you see her transformation, it seems slower, but maybe that's maybe the medicine. Yeah, because she had the medicine so quickly.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Which she didn't like get to use on any of them, which I thought might happen because it seemed like it like doles her vampire senses. Yes. So, like that guy who is like the crazy flight attendant, he was the clear main bad guy. He, spoiler alert, takes some of her blood, decides to become a vampire himself, locks himself in a car. It's a great scene. Yeah. She's like trying to break into the car, but it's like this fancy, like bulletproof one, smashes open the windshield and just starts pouring out lighter fluid or something. That was one of my favorite parts of it.

SPEAKER_05 19:11

It was like the tiniest little hole in the windshield, it was very small, and she just like uses the little amount to just like slowly pour in.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

And like he's transforming into a vampire at this point, and this transformation was kind of slow. That one was slower, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

So he just sees it happening, but he can't control his body, and he's just like convulsing in the car, and then she just drops like a little mat or something. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

And so, for like the whole rest of the movie, that guy's just horribly burned running around attacking people.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

It was pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

It's kind of uh it's fun. It's like she clearly has the upper hand at one point, then it switches the terrorists once they figure out what's going on.

SPEAKER_05 19:51

When it's like one vampire versus like five dudes, yeah. It's like, oh, she's got 'em. And then when it's like one vampire versus like four vampire terrorists, yeah. And now a a group of passengers who are terrified and like stampeding and stuff. Yeah. It's I feel like it preys on a lot of different fears.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

It's so fun. And like some people figure it out right away. Yeah. Like that crazy flight attendant, he figures out what's going on, and he's like, we need the UV flashlights. I'm gonna sharpen this hockey stick into a steak.

SPEAKER_05 20:24

Yeah, he was like very much like, I'm a vampire hunter, you know. I've taken this role, I know all the lore. None of this is surprising to me.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

And all the other hijackers, they're just like, sure, you're the crazy one. It's definitely a vampire sure. Like, they don't believe him at all.

SPEAKER_05 20:41

Well, you know what I was thinking too? Like the passengers on the plane, right? Like, let's say, and I won't get into what happens, like in in general, but like this kind of an experience where it's like, it's a terrorist attack, you're on this plane, it's a very tense situation, people have been hurt, maybe people have died, and like the idea of like a shared delusion or something to that, where it's like, if they leave that plane, no one's gonna believe them that this happened, but I could see a scenario where like survivors of that are like talking about what they experienced or like they blocked out parts of it, and they think it's just like some sort of like shared delusion that they have. And I was thinking about how that would be such an interesting like follow-up of like somebody trying to like unpack what happened and then slowly remembering, like, oh yeah, there were fucking like vampires on that plane. Yeah, that was crazy. Fucking nuts. We weren't just like yeah, attacked, which would be terrifying in itself.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:41

Do you want to know what scared me the most? Even though well, that's not true. One of the things that scared me, like genuinely about it, it was not the vampires. No, it was not the terrorists themselves, it was a part of the movie where the people on the plane start freaking out. And they all just start running to another section of the plane. I genuinely was a little bit freaked out, but and I realized like I have a genuine fear of like that sort of thing, like a crowd. I was like so scared of that. Because I I genuinely was like, oh wow, I can suspend my like my disbelief in a lot of things, and I'm just like, wow, this is real fun.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

But then you start seeing like fifty, sixty people just charging to the front and watching somebody get like It's a crazy scene because it's like they're running away because like the terrorists are turning into uh vampires. And so they're start turning into vampires.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

They're in their space where they can't get frogs into vampires.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

They're in a space where they can't really run away. The only place they can go is the cockpit, and like the characters are staying locked in there because it's the only safe place and they're trying to land the plane. And so people are getting trampled, like an old woman gets trampled, and then there's the flight attendant. That one was crazy. She's like at the window. Yeah, she's like, I can't breathe, I can't breathe.

SPEAKER_05 23:02

And she's getting like smushed into that is like so genuinely that's when I was like, Wow, this is like not that that was when I was like, Wow, this is a good movie, but like that was like a part where I was like, ooh, like there's so many scary things about being on like a flight gone wrong, and that would be the scariest to me. Yeah. Or like, I I don't know, just a scenario like that really freaks me out, or like being in like a crowded building when something like that happens, and then everybody panicking and running. I'm like, people are the worst when they're panicked. Yep, and it it's and they don't act rationally, and that scares me.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

The uh characters in the cockpit, like they're trying to land the plane and they're like, we should open the door and help them, and like, no, if we do that, we'll not get it closed again. And so they just have to like watch these people like crushing themselves and then getting attacked by all these vampires and turns. And it's like as they lose people to the vampires, more vampires are now there. So it's just like escalating problem. It's pretty bad.

SPEAKER_05 24:02

It's it's it was great and scary and it was cool, like they you like it's just like you're just in this one setting for like most of the movie, and then there's like some flash forward, some flashback, but like the majority of the movie is just on this like one of the xenophobic nature of it, which I think is.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

They did something with the oxygen masks, they did something with the cart that they push around with like all the snacks and stuff. Someone gets crushed by that. It's the asshole guy who gets crushed, and he's just of course the one that fucks it over for everyone. They have the vampire stuck in the the hold, and he's like, Oh, I'm dying, and this nurse isn't helping me quick enough. I'm gonna go see the vampire so they can turn me. And he just opens the door and he's like, Hey, bite me in the uh flight attendant vampire, and he just like slaps him and breaks his neck and it's like pretty good. You screwed over the whole plane.

SPEAKER_05 24:56

Yep. And they play with like time, because it's like a night flight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

Well, it was planned that way for a heist and then Well for the heist, but also for the uh the woman seeking the cure.

SPEAKER_05 25:06

Yeah, she purposely chose that flight, and then they play with like time and like well, can only be in the air so long, you can only fly so far on one fuel tank.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Yeah, I thought it was for Reed, he loses a hand at one point.

SPEAKER_05 25:20

Yeah, oh my gosh, that was great.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

Uh because he gets bit in his hand and so they chop it off.

SPEAKER_05 25:26

Which was a theory. Yeah, I didn't even know if that would work because you could turn so quickly in this movie. I was genuinely like, I feel like he's still gonna turn.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Well, that that was that was funny too, because like he had his hand chopped off and they go up, and this was after everyone saw that the mom was a vampire and they're all afraid of her, and he's like, It's okay, she's fine, she's totally cool. And it's like you had a hand last time we saw you.

SPEAKER_05 25:49

It was literally like a I think he even says, We everything's under control. And it was just like, sir, you you walked out of this, you walked out of this room with two hands, and you've come back with one bleeding profusely, and you're telling me everything's under control. Like it was just and then you just shut yourself away and we don't see you for another who knows how long. We're telling you everything.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

Well, we'll tell you a good amount. But yeah, and anyways, it's all ends where it started with the plane landing on the runway.

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Yeah. And oh, well, that's a huge yeah. That's like a really good so going back to the Farid guy, yeah, because you see him first.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:30

And again, people are just inherently like immediately racist towards him.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

And they 'cause they heard terrorists took over the plane.

SPEAKER_05 26:38

They heard terrorists took over the plane, and then they see this Arabic man in the front, and so they immediately think that he is the one who's done this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

It doesn't help that he's his voice was the one that's.

SPEAKER_05 26:51

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's not just like that. It's is that. And he's trying to kind of like talk them, get them to calm down a little bit and trying to explain this very delicate situation.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

Like he's not even saying vampires, he's just like, please, you have to let me out before the sun goes down. Like they will kill us all. You need to let me out of here.

SPEAKER_05 27:11

And and then their response is just like, we'll wait it out. Yeah. We'll wait till it's a good one. Which is a terrible crisis response. Yeah. Of just like, why don't you just get him out of the plane and and and and ask him questions.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

Yeah. There's a lot that happens after.

SPEAKER_05 27:25

After they land yeah, after they land, after they bring you back to where it starts, there's still a lot more to go, and it's pretty awesome. Yeah, so it it was a couple of twists in it. Yeah. I I don't think we need to tell him how it ends.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

Yeah, I mean if you like a movie that turns into a vampire movie suddenly and also die hard on a plane, then you'll probably enjoy it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:50

If Bruce Willis was one of the vampires. Yeah. Oh, and she kind of looks like Bruce Willis. Crawling around. Yeah. That's pretty great. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, there you go. And they're oh no, they're not German, but the movie's German.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

No, it it's all a bunch of Hans Grubers.

SPEAKER_05 28:09

Yeah, it's a lot of Hans Grubers. There's a guy from Prison Break in it. He's the main guy, Michael Schofield's brother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

That's who he is. I don't remember saying that. I mean it it did well in Germany.

SPEAKER_05 28:22

It should have done well here. I didn't even know about the story.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

I think it did pretty well considering it. I think it's was the most viewed German movie on Netflix for what.

SPEAKER_05 28:31

Did it scare you?

SPEAKER_01 28:32

The fact that they murdered the dogs, I didn't think they were gonna do that.

SPEAKER_05 28:36

And I didn't think it was going to be the hero that scared you, that scared capable of such horrors.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Not even the terrorist, it was the vampire lady. She didn't need to do that.

SPEAKER_05 28:47

That the mother she needed to buy herself. First of all, she needed to get her strength to save her child. So she took out the smallest one that she could.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

Then she did the same thing to the co-pilot, too. Where she's like, Alright, both of you can fly a plane. Which one of you is gonna care for my kid? You are? Okay, I'm gonna drain you.

SPEAKER_05 29:11

Well, you gotta do what you gotta do. It was all about that kid. She needed to get that kid out of there. Yeah. And then, yeah, I mean, she didn't have a like who else was she gonna blame her first murder on? It was there the only the only scapegoat was the dogs that were down there, and I think there were only two down there.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

I mean, it would have been funny if she put him in the car and just ran a hose from the exhaust pipe in. He decided now is that.

SPEAKER_05 29:39

He was rethinking his couldn't go through with his plan. Yeah. It was pretty good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Um I liked it.

SPEAKER_05 29:47

Yeah. Recommended the movie. It wasn't terrifying, but it was really good.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:52

It was a good scare.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Yeah. So it's it's a good time. And I'd say or watch the dub if you want to laugh, watch the sub if you just want to want to enjoy it.

SPEAKER_05 30:01

And uh and watch it on a plane if you want to really challenge yourself.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Yeah. Yeah. Two hour flight. That's what you need.

SPEAKER_05 30:08

Watch it. Yeah, if it's a six-hour flight, watch it three times. Yeah. Maybe maybe you'll see something every time. It's not bad, but it's not a bad movie, but it wasn't our pick for a bad movie.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

No, that's no. And this is what the should we talk about the movie that probably some people are waiting to hear about?

SPEAKER_05 30:24

The movie that we watched as our bad movie for this week is, I guess for some a classic. Some call it a rom com. I'm not huge on the rom-com genre, but I'll give credit where it's due.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

I don't know that either of us are.

SPEAKER_05 30:40

I don't know that either of us are, but there are some where I'll I'll I'll like them, or I'll if they're good, then I'll like it. That's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 30:49

If the movies Most of them are shit no.

SPEAKER_05 30:52

But people would say that about what I watch. That's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Well, do you think it's like a growing up thing?

SPEAKER_05 30:58

Like if you Yeah, I think the people who like that movie should grow up.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

I mean, I mean like the people in the room as well, but we'll get into it. Yeah. If you if you grow up watching rom coms, yeah, they have a nostalgia thing so that you're more drawn to them, like how you're drawn to like horror movies. Because I grew up watching so even like the ones that are maybe lesser quality, you're like, yeah, but it's fine.

SPEAKER_05 31:22

I can appreciate the the good parts of it. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

That being said, this movie.

SPEAKER_05 31:28

Yeah, and I'll place no judgment on people who like rom-coms because it's there's something sick and twisted about watching horror movies all the time.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:35

And I don't know what it means. But uh the rom-coms, yeah, there are some that I really like. Like I definitely uh did not like this one though, so I'm just gonna get into it. But like failure to launch failed to entertain me, failed to sh show any shred of romance for me, and that's that. I'll just and that's that, that's the review. Failure to launch. What do you want me to get into like the setup?

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Sure, we'll get into the setup.

SPEAKER_05 32:04

It's about a loser played by Matthew McConaughey. It's about a guy, I forget his name, but he's played by Matthew McConaughey.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Oh, it's something stupid like chip.

SPEAKER_05 32:17

It's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

It's like clip.

SPEAKER_05 32:19

Uh yeah, he's got a d trip. That's a good one. Trip. Trip, yeah. Okay, so trip is allegedly in this film, he's supposed to be 35. He's a lawyer. I can't help but say allegedly 35. He looks about 43. I don't know his guy's age when it was filmed, but he does not look 35. This piece of shit.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

Yeah, but Matthew McConaughey spends a lot of time in the sun, so he does.

SPEAKER_05 32:48

It starts out.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

He could have been 16 when this movie films.

SPEAKER_05 32:51

It starts out and it's like him. I think it's like him coming back from a date with this woman, and they're like starting to get like a little hot and heavy. They're starting to like PG 13. PG 13 it up. They're like PGing and then they're PG 13. 13. 13ing. Um, they're kissing and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

I'll have a 13 shake and nothing.

SPEAKER_05 33:15

And then it seems like there's a little bit more happening. And he says this line, which he repeats later on about like, oh, I like to come I like to like come home to a nice I like to come back to a nice home or something like that. Like it's like some weird line he says, and he repeats it later. It's weird, like it's like a script that he runs through, sociopath. So I can profile him real quick, sociopath. So they get back, they start getting hot and heavy, and then all of a sudden, his dad busts open the door, he's some football guy. I don't know who he's supposed to be. Terry Bradley. Apparently a famous football player, maybe a coach.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

He was a quarterback, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:58

I really don't recognize his accolades. Um, and nor do I care too. He was weird in this movie. He walked in on his son mid doing an act.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Um unfazed.

SPEAKER_05 34:11

Unfazed, like this happens regularly and is basically like, hey, I can't get to sleep. Like, what did you what were you planning on doing? What was the goal? What was the goal here?

SPEAKER_01 34:23

And so sit down.

SPEAKER_05 34:24

Basically ruins the encounter. The lady's like weirded out by it and is like, you live with your parents, and then it's like failure to launch. This is the movie. Here we go. Both of the things.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

That's the theme song sung by Zoe De Chanel.

SPEAKER_05 34:39

There was, yeah. There was like a Seinfeld jazz transition, and it was like, and this is failure to launch. And it's basically he lives with his parents, he's 45 years old, he has a weird job, which is basically that he works on a marina and he sells boats, but he mostly just goes on people's boats and pretends that it's his boat. So he tricks women into thinking that he owns a boat, that he's successful, he tricks them into thinking he has this beautiful house, and then having his parents somehow show up so that they find out unexpectedly that he lives with his parents. Yeah. And that's how he ends things.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Did you mention who his mom was?

SPEAKER_05 35:22

His mom is Kathy Bates.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:25

She is playing another character, but Kathy Bates. She is not playing herself in the film. However, she should not be here.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

How different do you think the movie would be if she was playing herself?

SPEAKER_05 35:40

She would literally be like, get out of here, you loser. Oh, and wait, let me get into this as well. Because I hated this movie and I hated these characters, and I was not rooting for him, and I did not want him to find love. In fact, I wanted him to find uh some self-respect.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Is there any character you're rooting for?

SPEAKER_05 35:59

No. Well, let me tell you about his friends. He has two friends in the world. And you guessed it. The only people who will hang out with him willingly without getting some sort of physical gratification out of it, or being his blood relatives, are these two guys who also live with their parents and who also live off of their parents and don't have anything going for them. Um, one of them is Bradley Cooper, one of them is the other guy from the hangover that's not famous. And so he's playing himself in this movie. Um, they suck. And then basically the gist of the movie is I don't know, it's his parents, and there's some other parents, and they're all I don't know if it's his friend's parents.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

I feel like it probably is his parents, and then more parents.

SPEAKER_05 36:51

It seems like a very small town, so I feel like his friend's parents were there, probably like their Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

That was the thing too. Like so many coincidences kept happening where people just kept being in the same place at the same time.

SPEAKER_05 37:03

Yeah, it's felt like it could have been filmed in Rhode Island. It felt like it was like you're walking into like, I don't know, somewhere in like sense with how how big of a part boats play into it.

SPEAKER_01 37:14

Like, yeah. Could have been Rhode Island movie.

SPEAKER_05 37:17

It could have been a Rhode Island movie, it probably was not. I think it was in California, but they made it seem small towny. So yeah, there's a little family cookout with all the parents, and they're all plotting together, and they're like, wait a minute, why do you two seem so happy? And they're like, Oh, our kid finally moved out. We hired somebody and helped them get their life together by pretending to be in love with them. And so that's where um our other protagonists come into play. Protagonists, there are no protagonists in this movie. There's just there's losers, and then there are people who are better at hiding their status, their social status. In this hierarchy, she's slightly above this because she does have a job and she does not live with her parents. Um, so they hire Sarah Jessica Parker's character. I don't remember her name either. It wasn't Nancy, but I feel like it could have been. And anyways, we'll call her Nancy for now. Sarah Jessica Parker's character. Um, it's a little funny because she's basically hired to she has these stages of making like men fall in love with her just to get them to a point where they'll move out of their house and then she ends the relationship with them and then moves on. But she's just doing it in this town because she has multiple clients at the same time, which creates some issue in this town.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

Well, logistically, it doesn't make much sense.

SPEAKER_05 38:42

And my thing that I think is really funny is she thinks these guys are like absolute like duds, like they got nothing going for them because they live with their parents. She does live with a roommate at 35.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:55

Which isn't like inherently a bad thing, especially like in this economy. Like, I do think it's funny that I think this movie was from like what, like 2006. I don't know exactly when I can look it up. And yeah, I just think it's funny that she is so like, oh, these guys gotta get their life together, they gotta get it, you know, straightened out, and then she just like also lives with the roommate and like doesn't even, you know, she's she's still figuring it out, I guess, is part of it. Yeah, um, her roommate's Zoe De Chanel, so of course she's super quirky. Um she's not like the other girls. No, she's got a vendetta against um Mockingbird. Mockingbird that's outside of her window.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

That's her plot for the movie.

SPEAKER_05 39:40

That's pretty much all we get from her, is that, and there's one of the loser friends that's trying to date her because he doesn't have any opportunities to speak to any other humans, it seems. It's a really wild movie.

SPEAKER_01 39:55

There's Are you about to go into what I think you're doing?

SPEAKER_05 40:00

Yes, so there's a subplot in the movie which me and Dan really fixated on.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Um it's the best part of the movie.

SPEAKER_05 40:07

It's the only by far. It's the only good part of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

I'm glad it recurs so much. There's otherwise this movie would have nothing going on.

SPEAKER_05 40:15

Yeah, it kept our attention because we were like, how far will this go? There's no reason for it. It serves nothing really for the overall plot, but for some reason in this movie, wild animals just apps or just animals in general hate Matthew McConnell's character. Yeah, and it's it's like animals not normally for attacking, not normally known for attacking people, so he's with his two friends who he does uh spend all of his downtime with. Every time you see the three of them together, they're doing some sort of bro activity. They're mountain biking, they're hiking, they're surfing, they're paintballing, they're doing things like this, right? As you would. And so they're this is mountain biking. He falls off or something because they're racing each other at one point.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

Turn each other off.

SPEAKER_05 41:05

Yeah, they're they're doing whatever people who live with their parents do on a Tuesday because they don't have anything else to do. And when you don't have to pay rent, kind of things, you don't really care, uh, you don't have any real responsibilities. And so he falls off, and then he gets like like very viciously attacked by a chipmunk, and it goes on for such a long time. Like it's like cartoonish, it's just like out of nowhere. It's so funny, and then we're like, oh, okay, this is a weird, is this a thing in this movie? We're like, now you have our attention. Yeah, now this is something, now there's a little something for us for the for the people who who aren't rom commerce.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

Now there's a little Terry Bradshaw for us.

SPEAKER_05 41:45

Yeah, there we go. Exactly. Yeah, there's a little something to get to get our demographic, the weirdos. So now we're like, okay, what else? What else? And then the very next time all of the friends are together, they're going surfing.

SPEAKER_01 41:59

And then there's just probably the peak right here.

SPEAKER_05 42:02

Unprompted, just really no reason. Just again, a dolphin jumps out of the water and just pulls him under and starts viciously attacking Nathan McConaughey. And it goes on again, so long, such a long time. You can't believe how long it would go on in this film. Like, they are really just trying. We were like, they're trying to fill time so early in this film.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

And it's like, you're like, okay, I I get it. I get what's going on, I guess. He's gonna get keep getting attacked by animals, but it's like they do it so many more times after that.

SPEAKER_05 42:35

It's really great. They want you to know, and they also make it known that it's like a very short time frame of like, wow, like it's like a week. This just happened like three days ago since your last animal attack. It's crazy. So I could talk about this more than I could talk about the film because like each animal attack is great, it's pretty great. Um, and then of course, Matthew McConaughey and Sarah Jessica Parker go on one date. Um, all of a sudden she's like, Wow, this guy isn't, I don't know, he's more handsome than my normal clientele.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

So he's more handsome than Pat Noss.

SPEAKER_05 43:10

That's the only other one that we're aware of, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

And what a loser that guy is.

SPEAKER_05 43:14

He's talking about Star Wars, so we know he's a loser.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

And she's talking Star Wars right back at him.

SPEAKER_05 43:20

Yeah. She knows she had to go deep.

SPEAKER_01 43:22

She had to do research.

SPEAKER_05 43:24

Exactly. She's deep in her, deep in her role. Um, and it it there's like a a point where uh his friends all find out that you know she's basically hired to fall in love with him and it's to get him out of his house and all of that, and they're bad friends, and they don't tell him for a while. They sort of it's a one by one of figuring this out, and it's like one tells the other, but they don't tell their friend this, and they just sit with this information.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

Because everyone's a bad person in this movie.

SPEAKER_05 43:58

Right. And then they sort of need To give you an explanation of like, well, Matthew McConaughey, he's what a great guy. What a catch. You know, there's gotta be a reason that this guy lives with his parents. Yeah. And I'm like, I could give you 10.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

Like, I there's a lot of that's just who he is.

SPEAKER_05 44:12

He's this is not a good person.

SPEAKER_01 44:14

He's not a good guy, and he's he's making no attempts to be a good person.

SPEAKER_05 44:18

No, it was like the mom putting her foot down was like, I've put your laundry in front of the washing machine.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 44:24

But I have an appointment, and you'll need to put it in the washer of just like, what do you mean? He's not even doing his laundry at 35. There's a lot of work that needs to be done here.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 44:35

Um, so failure to launch, it sucks. Um, I there's no romance or chemistry between those two.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

No.

SPEAKER_05 44:44

There's also a Zoe Deschanel in love with the friend who's the guy from Hangover No One Knows. Um, they have a thing. Also, like it just goes from like she's not interested to he keeps showing up and clearly force them to go out.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

Bradley Cooper, it's the other. Um it's Doug in Hangover. I don't know outside of that.

SPEAKER_05 45:03

We don't know no, we don't know his real name though, and we don't need to know. No, we don't care to know. So yeah, there's there's just nothing. Like, I don't know. I'm like, is this the bare minimum of people falling in love? Like, I don't know. The only time where there's like a a turn for her, like she is basically like, oh, he's about to break up with me. So she like starts like laying it on thick and they like hook up.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 45:27

And that was the turning point for them. And it's just like, oh, you're just like actively manipulating him.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

It's also not clear like how long she's been doing this for.

SPEAKER_05 45:38

Because she's kind of bad at it. She's like, I've never failed.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

It seems like she's maybe done this like two or three times before this, and this she's like, Yeah, it works every single time, and then she hits one little speed bum between. She's like, Oh shit, oh shit, I I didn't think this would happen. I better sleep with him to make it work.

SPEAKER_05 45:56

She's like, My one rule, I don't sleep with my clients. And then she's like, Oh my gosh, he's gonna, I'm gonna get fired before I finish this job. I'm gonna have to sleep with him. Like, ace, like I gotta pull my ace out right now. And then she's like, perfect, perfect. This is all right.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

I swore I would never do this after I started this business a month ago.

SPEAKER_05 46:13

Yes, yes. And yeah, and then so whatever, obviously they fall in love and there's the whole thing. But then my issue, and I'll come back to this again. The reason that one of the friends finds out that she's doing this is because he sees her out on another date where she's doing the same thing to the Pat and Oswald character.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 46:34

And she's just running multiple jobs at the same time, like having people fall in love with her in the same town, in the same places, and then you never see her with Pat and Oswald again. So it's just like, did you quit your job? Do you have a new job? Did you fail at this job too?

SPEAKER_01 46:50

Like what is how pissed are Pat and Oswald's parents gonna be? Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 46:55

When they find out you decided to walk away.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:58

Um, so yeah, so they do get together. Maybe they deserve each other because they both suck, but there was no no fun little dates or any reason that they would fall in love. No, I think they maybe Maybe we're biased because we have like fun dates and we do things together. Yeah, and we like I don't know. I mean, I feel like we were they two focused. We're not like the other romantic.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

No, no, we're we're not like the other ones. We're we're real Zoe De Chanel comes.

SPEAKER_05 47:21

I can't imagine being impressed by any of that. Like, I'm just like, if I don't know. I feel like we had more fun data.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

You're not impressed by a boat.

SPEAKER_05 47:28

No, I feel like we had more fun dates like this week than like in that movie. I'm just like, what do you mean? Like it was bigger anywhere. We don't know anything about her likes or dislikes.

SPEAKER_01 47:38

For a rom com, I would say it was a little light on the rom. Like they were too focused on that com after.

SPEAKER_05 47:46

I didn't wouldn't I didn't think it was funny.

SPEAKER_01 47:49

Well, that's the problem. They were trying to create the situations that were funny. Like they had the Rob Cordry scene at the gun store. Oh. Where is that supposed to be funny? I it went on for so long. I think they were hoping it was hilarious.

SPEAKER_05 48:02

I mean, I thought it was kind of sweet, actually. Oh yeah. I was like, oh, he's try he thinks she's trying to like off herself. So he's like giving her counsel. Like I was I thought that was pretty good. Um, I don't know. It was bad.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:16

It was really bad. Yeah. I didn't really like it.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

What you ex I feel like for people who like rom-coms, I feel like this is the thing that people who don't like rom-coms picture rom-coms to be in its entirety. Like, y yes.

SPEAKER_05 48:30

It was a confirmation bias sort of thing for me. Where I was like, ah, yeah, this is exactly why I don't watch these kind of movies. But I think this was a poor representation of these kind of movies.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

Like the good ones in the genre.

SPEAKER_05 48:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

Yeah. Of which there are probably way more than I'm aware of. This was a good representation of the bad rom-com.

SPEAKER_05 48:50

This was a good represent Yeah, this was a good representation of all of the tropes that I think are in those types of movies. Like even like the two female characters, their conversations are solely about the men in like the completely male-centered, just like nothing else going on.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

Not passing the Beckdale test.

SPEAKER_05 49:09

No, not for not for like half a minute. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

No.

SPEAKER_05 49:13

And it's just like these like man-child characters that we're like rooting for, and these are our per like these are our narrators, and I'm like, oof, like you're like, I don't even want to listen to you in a conversation. Like I Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

It's weird because it's like a lot of trolls.

SPEAKER_05 49:29

And Terry Bradtro's butt, you see. You do see a lot.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

You almost see his penis too, but can't quite get there.

SPEAKER_05 49:35

Homo Stan was looking. Downrated that pause. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Pause. Enhance. Enhance.

SPEAKER_05 49:41

Enhance. Enhance. Rewind. Enhance. Enhance.

SPEAKER_00 49:48

Do we see almost the pig skin right there?

SPEAKER_04 49:50

Between the cheeks, what do we see?

SPEAKER_01 49:53

Um but I I I just some of the characters they work way better in like other types of movies. So like stepbrothers, men, children, psychopaths, it's hilarious and it works. Yes. But in this they're not that he's just not that funny in this.

SPEAKER_05 50:13

I think because it was in this movie, it was like so. Obviously, stepbrothers, they're the joke. Like the joke is like, oh my gosh, like these guys are like, this is embarrassing. And they start with that in this movie, but they're like, no, no, no, he's not really like that. Yeah. Here's this tragic reason why he's this way, explained away, even though it was six years ago, and like blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:37

But then they also don't explain why his friends are losers too. No. Because it didn't happen to them. But they enable each other.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

If you're gonna do a premise like that, like they do in Steph. If you're gonna do a premise like that, like they do in Step Brothers, I think you get like unless you get you need to lean into it, you need to make it exaggerated, like way over the top.

SPEAKER_05 50:57

And I think that's I think it would have been funny if it was like she's like it if it was like full on, like she like he's he's learned to do laundry. He's trying to learn how to make a grilled cheese. Like she's teaching him how to fold clothes and he's like basic human things for the montage of that. She's not in love with him, like she's going home, like Jesus Christ, this guy doesn't know how to turn on a dryer. Like this guy wouldn't be safe to live on his own. Like it's like things like that, where it's like oil in his car today.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Like he's going to eat a sandwich because there's crust on it. He's like Exactly. Or he has a steak and he's like, Can you cut this up for me? Yeah. Like something like that. Something like silly where it's just like And that that's why I think the animal scenes worked the best because they were so ridiculous.

SPEAKER_05 51:43

But they had nothing to do with anything never comes full circle. Nothing.

SPEAKER_01 51:47

It just felt like they attempt to make it seem like it comes full circle.

SPEAKER_05 51:50

But not really.

SPEAKER_01 51:51

They're like, and now he's got his shit together, so Mother Nature respects.

SPEAKER_05 52:01

Mother Nature sees that he's grown. Yeah. Um, yeah, no, it was it was something.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

I don't recommend it even as a bad movie.

SPEAKER_05 52:11

I think if you go into it not expecting it to be a great rom com, and you're just like, oh, this is gonna be this is a way to kill two hours.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

Yeah. Well, not even two hours, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:22

It felt like two hours.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

It felt like it, but uh it's also in terms of bad movies, like there there's ones that I feel like, you know, they don't keep your interest and they're like boring, it's hard to stay awake. A bad movie.

SPEAKER_05 52:34

If you're looking for a good time, look somewhere else.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Like there are more entertaining bad movies, but it's not one that's gonna put you to sleep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:42

So I guess they say it's just alright, alright, alright.

SPEAKER_01 52:45

Yeah, there you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_05 52:47

And that's about it. Or go watch that movie if it's because it's a much better movie. Although kind of creepy in that movie, too. Have you ever seen that one?

SPEAKER_01 52:55

Uh no.

SPEAKER_05 52:56

Oh, that's a really good movie. I know you like it. But he's really creepy in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:02

And how he likes them because it's pretty creepy.

SPEAKER_05 53:06

He's pretty creepy in this movie too. So if you I mean everyone's creepy in this movie.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

If that's your You know, if you like rom coms, you m you I'm sure you've already seen this movie. If you are looking for something throw on in the background, I guess this works.

SPEAKER_05 53:18

I'm curious if it's a good background movie. It's probably a good background movie. And I'm curious if people who like rom coms do genuinely like this movie, because we did see that the audience score was like decently high. Yeah. But we don't know if that's just like a people just like him and that's why it got the bump, or people like Sarah Jessica Parker, because you know, she's kind of an icon on her own. Yeah. Um, so I don't know if it's just like a people had their blinders on because they like the people in it, which happens. Happens to the best of us.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

That reminds me, you did tease me earlier that someone was supposed to be the lead.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

Oh, okay. Alright. So I looked up a little bit of trivia about it, and apparently, um, the lead role, so it was written with Zach Braff in mind. He was gonna be the lead.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

A slut.

SPEAKER_05 54:09

Can you imagine? I think he would be I actually think he would be really good as like the like Manchild.

SPEAKER_01 54:18

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, nope, nope, that would work way better.

SPEAKER_05 54:21

They wrote it with him in mind. I don't think it said who they had written Sarah Jessica Parker's part for. I don't know that they had someone in mind directly, but they had him in mind for the lead role.

SPEAKER_01 54:33

That movie would have been so much better.

SPEAKER_05 54:35

I don't know. Maybe it would have.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

Like it still wouldn't be good.

SPEAKER_05 54:40

It would have been more believable.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

Yeah, I think that would have sold it way more.

SPEAKER_05 54:44

Yeah. I feel like he could play that kind of character pretty well. But yeah, that's who it was, which you would have thought because you drew up some Zach Brack. That that could have been Yeah, I think he turned it down though. I mean, good for him. Like he was riding the high of Garden State and he's gonna be a little bit more than a little bit. He had to do that other movie after that.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

Yeah, do that other movie where he goes, I slot.

SPEAKER_05 55:03

What movie is that?

SPEAKER_01 55:04

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 55:06

If anyone in the comments knows what movie sound off in the comments if you know the movie for Zach Prep yells the word slut in the funniest way possible.

SPEAKER_01 55:16

He's like, You think I'm a slut? So stupid. And he says it so earnestly.

SPEAKER_05 55:23

We don't I don't remember. We watched that years ago. Yeah. And we don't, I don't remember anything else. I just remember that part because we thought it was so funny. Yes, and he sleeps on the porch.

SPEAKER_03 55:34

And we just we'll just say it to each other out of context all the time. So funny.

SPEAKER_01 55:41

It's not a comedy either. At least I don't think it is.

SPEAKER_03 55:46

I don't think it is either.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

But if anyone knows the name of that movie is sound off.

SPEAKER_05 55:50

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

But yeah.

SPEAKER_05 55:53

So that was our bad movie. Maybe controversial if people really like that movie.

SPEAKER_01 55:57

Yeah, let us know if anyone likes that movie.

SPEAKER_05 56:01

We picked it because we thought it would be funny, to be honest, for the launch of a podcast to to talk about a failure launch.

SPEAKER_01 56:09

Normally we obviously look for one that's more like definitively a bad movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:14

But this one felt bad enough. And to be honest, I think it is too highly rated. I think it needs to tank a little. I'd like to tank it myself a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

And and that's the thing with bad movies. I feel like it's can be subjective, and for us, mostly rom-coms are gonna find to be bad movies. But there may be some we like, you know?

SPEAKER_05 56:33

Because it's not our taste.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

It's not our taste.

SPEAKER_05 56:36

Uh there's some I like. Yeah. Wedding Singer. Wedding Singer's great. The first one I think of.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:41

It's perfect. Perfect movie.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

And others.

SPEAKER_02 56:45

Drawing players.

SPEAKER_05 56:48

That's the only one. I like other comedy. I'm open, I'm open to a Wedding Singer. Comedy drama. I'm open to a rom com.

SPEAKER_01 56:56

Da da da.

SPEAKER_05 56:57

Da. Wedding Singer. Etc. There's gotta be more. Um that one with Drew Barrymore. It's not Wedding Singer. I just like Drew Barrymore, I think. Um Firestarter? Firestarter really.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Real funny.

SPEAKER_05 57:15

Fever pitch. I like that one too. I don't know if that holds up. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

I don't know if it holds up. That might be a good one to explore in the podcast. I have a suspicion it doesn't. I have a suspicion. But I remember liking it.

SPEAKER_05 57:26

That it does.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

Princess Bride is kinda counts, right?

SPEAKER_05 57:30

Princess Bride. More or less. Kind of. Yeah, we love that one. It's more fun butt.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:36

More action and more.

SPEAKER_01 57:38

More fun butt.

SPEAKER_05 57:39

More fun butts. Like Terry Brad. Shout out Terry Bradshaw's butt. Better than I expected it to look at his age. Good for him.

SPEAKER_01 57:46

Yeah, I don't know what age he was, and uh wouldn't be a shame if he was like 36 in the film.

SPEAKER_05 57:50

His son was 35 in the film.

SPEAKER_01 57:52

Yeah. And he looked about He has quite the he he's been in a lot of movies, it turns out. So if we want to hop on the Terry Bradshaw terrain for a bit, cover some of his movies. I'm sure they're a train I'd like to do. I'm sure a lot of them will fit into the bad movie genre. Uh they did play Madden in this game. Yeah, they did play. Which may be part of his contract was hey, I'll be in this movie. Yeah. I feel like that's does he get money from it? Probably does. Yeah. It's probably like, hey, I'll be in this rom com, but I got two stipulations. Madden has to be played in it, and I need to show full blood.

SPEAKER_05 58:32

Yeah, no, it was a bad movie. I mean, we could get into all the stuff, but I think that that that kind of covers it for me. Oh, it was also written by two men and directed by a man. So I'm not saying that that's the reason it wasn't romantic and not super funny. But I think it has we have to consider.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

How do you think the movie would have been if it was written and directed by Terry Bradshaw?

SPEAKER_05 58:57

Well, judging by those cheeks, it'd be a lot more wholesome. Why did they even have him in the movie? He was barely in it. It's because they wanted They were like, let's have two scenes with this really famous guy. He's gonna every five minutes he's gonna go out to his grill. Like that was like his whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 59:17

That's the point because they want to be like, oh, the chicks are gonna bring their guys to the movie. They're gonna need something that the guys can latch on to, so they've got to have Terry Bradshaw.

SPEAKER_05 59:25

Terry Bradshaw? Is that the lure?

SPEAKER_00 59:27

That was the lure.

SPEAKER_01 59:31

Terry Bradshaw's in the movie.

SPEAKER_05 59:33

If I saw that trailer, I'll be honest with you, if you showed me that trailer, the only lure for me would be like, Kathy Bates is in this movie? Why would Kathy Bates be in this movie? And then like Is this a good movie? That's what would happen to me. I'd be like, wow, she's a real actress. And then she's a real actor.

SPEAKER_01 59:50

And then the guys would be like, Terry Bradshaw's in this movie? Terry Bradshaw's Terry Bradshaw in this movie. Wait, is that the guy?

SPEAKER_05 59:56

Wait, is this guy from the hangover? Is that two of the guys from the hangover? What? I gotta get my bros together. We gotta get we gotta hop off these mountain bikes right there.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:05

Isn't that Rob Gordry with a gun?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:07

I don't think Rob Cordry.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:09

He's a big draw, biggest draw that I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:10

I think Rob Cordry would be for you. I don't think people know him by name the way that you do.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

He's great.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:15

I think people are like, oh, it's that guy from Hot Tub Time Machine. That'd be the extent of him. Yeah, I don't know. Well, there's something in it for everyone. There's it was Zoe De Chanel pre-new girl, like like right before it. So there you go. Post-elf, pre-new girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:34

That era.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:35

We lived in a post-elf world, but a pre-new girl world, and what an interesting in-between it was. Yeah. Post-comedy pre-romance, it turns out. We were in that perfect void. And that's where this movie lives. In the void between both comedy and romance. And that's my review of it. Yeah, that's it. Failure to launch. Um, I think you should watch it because I want to see if you agree with us.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:02

Uh I think you should watch it solely to to challenge our thoughts on it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

Yeah, let us know in the comments if you've watched either of these movies, if you have strong feelings on them.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:13

Yeah, and what stuck with you? Um for failure to launch, I feel like the animal stuff will stick with us. Where like three months from now we'll be like, oh yeah, it's that movie where the animals attacked Matthew McCartney. For someone who watched it like 20 years ago when it came out, also what do you remember?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:32

Having established we don't like this one, what other rom-comps do you think we won't like?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:38

Ooh. It's gonna be tough.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

Yeah. But yeah, any horror movies, uh, bad movies that you know, let us know and we'll watch them.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:45

Yeah, we'll watch them all.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:46

Um I guess I guess that's our discussion for the movies.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:50

People who go to a hypnotist show or open a suggestion.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:53

Yeah. So I'd say that's it for the movies, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:56

Uh yeah, those are the two that we watched. Yeah, that that's it. We don't got any more images. Any final thoughts? Um, final thoughts. Vampires roll, Matthew McConaughey rules.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

Uh and if you did like this episode, um this is our uh soft launch of the podcast.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:17

Yeah, you'll know when it's hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:19

Uh in fact, we're gonna shoot for getting it hard around we got a a lot of a lot of buildup to it. A lot of buildup. It's gonna be October 1st.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:30

There you go. We're halfway.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:32

Yeah, it's we're we did this as kind of like a little teaser. A little teaser, a little halfway to Halloween treat.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:39

Yeah, it'll be hard October 1st.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

Oh, it won't be so hard.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:44

It's a soft launch. Yeah, it's soft. It's a flaccid launch. It's pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:49

Soft like Terry Bradshaw's butt.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:51

Oh my god. You know what? When I said what will we remember three months from now from this movie? It'll just be you like reminiscing over the shape.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:04

Just what did his face look like? Can't even remember, you know?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:07

Can't even remember, but I do remember the way that those cheeks hang. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:14

And we'll just end it now.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:16

Yeah, I think that's a good spot to end it.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:18

Um Yeah, until next time.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

We don't have a sign off. Next time we'll have something. Oh yeah. Bye.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:29

Boo. Yeah, bye. Bye boo.