Visual Noise: Walls Talk - StickerEddie

In episode 3 of Visual Noise: Walls Talk, TRP and Urban Ninja head deep into the streets of Los Angeles to sit down with legendary sticker artist and wheatpaste veteran Sticker Eddie. A longtime force in the LA underground art scene, Eddie has spent more than a decade covering alleyways, utility boxes, abandoned buildings, and hidden corners of the city with his unmistakable style and relentless hustle.

From late-night sticker missions to massive wheatpaste runs, Eddie talks about the evolution of LA street culture and how the city itself became his canvas. The episode dives into the gritty realities of street art life — dodging security, dealing with buff crews, building respect in the scene, and staying active through changing trends and social media waves.

TRP and Ninja explore Eddie’s influence on the LA art community, where his work became more than just stickers on walls. His pieces helped shape the visual identity of parts of the city, inspiring younger artists to experiment with stickers, paste-ups, and DIY street campaigns. Eddie reflects on how street art in Los Angeles transformed over the years, from underground crews and photocopied slaps to today’s mix of murals, branding, and internet fame.

The conversation is raw, funny, and honest, packed with stories from rooftops, train yards, art battles, and nights that only street artists could survive. Episode 3 captures the spirit of street art culture — the obsession with getting up, the friendships built in the shadows, and the constant noise of creativity echoing through city walls.

Visual Noise: Walls Talk continues to spotlight the artists who leave their mark on the streets, one sticker, one paste-up, and one wall at a time.

Music credit:

“Funk Groove Music” by Alex Gus via Pixabay

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:08

What's up everyone? Welcome to the podcast. Visual Noise Walls Talk. Ninja and Trip here. What up, Ninja? Yo, what's up? So, uh, in our podcast, we interview street artists, we talk about art. Uh, welcome to the show. Today, uh, you want to introduce some ninja?

SPEAKER_00 0:24

Today we have Sticker Eddie. How are you doing, Sticker Eddie?

SPEAKER_01 0:28

I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

I'm good. How are you guys doing?

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Amazing. Awesome. Amazing. It's almost summer here. So I know you live in so Eddie lives in LA where it's fucking always summer. Fuck you. Yeah. Uh and here we have like a, you know, the winter was just terrible. It was either like minus 30 or snowing or both. It was wild. So we're finally getting some nice weather. Yeah. I mean, it's wet now, but I'll take that. Yeah, yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, me too. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about yourself, Eddie. Like where are you from? What do you do? Let people know.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

Well, I'm from Southern California, uh, Los Angeles, in the sticker scene for about seven years now. I prefer to do stickers. I haven't gotten to the wheat paste game. I've talked to a couple friends about doing that, but uh I've just been sticking to yeah, just stickers. And every once in a while I'll do some uh I'll do some slap tags.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Nice. You gotta you gotta you gotta try it once, you know. Like if uh meet up with someone who does it in LA and and maybe they'll take you out. You can fucking weed paste some stuff, and you know, it's it's fun. It's fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

I don't know the situation with weed pasting in LA. Like I know it's it's tricky, like uh the cops and stuff, right? Or I don't know. I've just been hearing stories, that's why. So you would know better.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Well, for some of them, I I've even seen videos of like graffiti artists in the tunnels. There's a crew called DAF, and they were hu hitting this huge roller in a tunnel, and cops stopped them. In the video, you can see the cops stop and talk to them, and then in the next edit, the roller was done. Oh, um, it's just it's it's insane here in LA. Like they're watching kids like get uh talked to by the cops while they're painting, and then all of a sudden they're just like, All right, later. With the Wii Paste, yeah, there's a couple cats out here that I know that do it. Um, Mocking Bird and uh Memo. You know, T Smoke? Oh, yeah, T Smoke too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he's from your guys' crew. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I've hit them up before, but I just I just never, you know, just life gets in the way to where like sometimes it just doesn't match their schedule.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Do you do you go out a lot with other people or are you just a solo type of person?

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Normally I like to go out with somebody else, but I have I have gone out on solo missions, but it's like smaller walks. But when I do go out with like other cats, like back in the day, like during the pandemic and just after, I would average like 10, 11 miles a night. Oh wow, nice. Yeah, so we would we would park our car in like a certain city, walk, and then and then like Uber back.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Oh, no way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Okay, yeah, I like that. We uh Ninja and I meet up in Montreal, I mean, seemingly every year, uh, for the past several years. And you know, we do like 20 to 30 kilometers, which I don't know what the changeover is. That's like probably 15 miles. Um yeah, we just like walk and walk and walk until we're cooked, or at least until I'm cooked. Ninja's a fucking robot, he'll go forever.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

Yeah, I don't realize just keep going until I notice people are starting to slow down, the energy's low. I'm like, what's going on? We're going to bed now? Let's go, let's go, let's go. More, more, more. Yeah, I remember I was hanging out with Tweet and she just started like huffing and puffing. I'm like, wait, what's going on? And she goes, uh, can we just like you know sit down and go to like a bar or something? I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, we could do that.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

I just won't eat, he won't fucking drink, like he won't do anything unless like, yo, let's go get some food. And then he's like, Oh, right, I need to eat, you know, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

Yeah, I gotta have a pit stop too. Like, if I see a food truck, I'll go over and I'll grab like a quesadilla or a burrito or something real quick and then take a little break and then continue.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Yeah. What was your kind of like screwed him doing street art moment? Like, did you do fine art? Did you do something else before street art? Like, why street art?

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Well, when I was younger, I got into graffiti. That's like my start. There was a kid in in my English class, I'll never forget his sophomore year, and uh, he was had like he was drawing people's names for their binder. So I was like looking at him and I was like, all right, well, like, can you draw my name? And he basically tried to charge me, and I told him to go fuck himself. And he ended up being like one of my good friends. And uh, so I got in, I got in through that route. Uh got into my first like real graffiti crew, and then I found out like I'm not like a real artist, artist, because these kids were like 17, 18, already doing like full productions on like railroad tracks, and I was just like, I'm just like a bomber. Yeah, like I can do, I can do some throw-ups, I can do, I can tag for days, you know. But these kids were like character, you know, their their name, and then like another character. Plus, I was just like, oh, these kids are, you know, they're they're legit artists. Um, so when I was doing that, uh what magazine? I got a magazine that had a bunch of stickers in it, and uh, it was at Tower Records, and I saw a bunch of street art and like stickers and like stencils, and I always wanted to do it. So um years passed, nothing, and then finally one day I was just bored and I go, why didn't I ever do that that sticker art thing that I wanted to do a couple like years back? And so I uh got on my computer and started making designs and trying to figure it out and got into it from there. But yeah, graffiti was my intro, and then and then I went into uh the stickers.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

I mean, living in in LA too, you have so much graffiti around you, you know, like it's just such a hub for graffiti, and I'm sure just seeing it every day and all that kind of sinks in.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Back in the day, um, I remember I went into uh like we were walking on Melrose, or was it Hollywood Boulevard, and I somebody had to take a piss, and there were like a group of kids that were just like sitting there, they were probably like no older than like 13, 14. And I walk in, I'm just standing there like waiting for my girlfriend to get out of the restroom. And one of the kids looks at me and he goes, Hey, you right? I like looked at him and I was like, dude, you're like six, seven years, you know. I was I was still kind of like young at the time, and I was like, Yeah, and then uh these kids were like hanging out with like CBS, and they were like, Oh yeah, he was helping his brother do a production, and I'm just like, These like, what the fuck? Like they're they start young, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas like some people, you know, I've read all the way up to some artists that like don't even touch a can until they're like 35 in certain magazines, you know. But but they've been doing like fine art and other stuff already, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

You're never too old, never too young, I think. Honestly, like I think in the sticker game, there's a lot of old people, you know, like I'm old, ninja's old, you look, you know, similar to us. I don't want to call you old, but you know, you look uh, you know, similar, you know. So it's it's an interesting thing. People think it's like this young person thing, uh, when reality I think it's more older people, you know. Well, older, you know, like 40s and and that kind of range.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Like we pasting, I find there's a lot of older people doing it. I don't know, that's what I just noticed. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Oh yeah, when when I'm driving through like downtown LA, uh I'll see I'll see guys, yeah, mid-late 30s, and they'll just have like a bucket with their posters sitting right next to it, and it's just broad daylight.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Even in LA, it's like that.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. There was there was one time I was going through Skib Row and uh I was cutting through, and uh GPS had me cut through this like real like real shady area, and I look over and there was this girl painting by herself. She probably looked no older than like 17, 18, and it just blew my mind. I was like, who the fuck is this girl? Because like most of us as like guys, we would be like have a lookout, you know, like we would kind of like be looking over our shoulder, and she was just standing there just painting right next to a tent, like in like a real bad area. And I was just like, LA's just built different, you know. Like these people just like some of them just don't give a fuck. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Yeah, I don't give a fuck when I go to different cities. Here in my own city, I'm like, chill, I won't put it on the front of stop signs. I go to Montreal or Toronto, I'm fucking just annihilating everything. Everywhere fuck your city, ninja.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Yeah, oh yeah, like right on top of like a parking site. I was like, really? And he's like, it's not my fucking city.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

Yeah, when I when I first got into the the stickers, I remember uh it was basically like a trail back to like where I lived. Like it it just like it ended pretty much like right out front. So I had to like stop for like a year, year and a half to make sure everything peeled. So then, like, and then I would keep everything three blocks out and then on.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Yeah, I do that too. My wife, my wife makes me, she's like, don't put anything within you know three, four blocks, because then people will know where you live.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Yeah. Like the little breadcrumbs coming right straight to you. Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

I'm curious about your character. The character that you have, it's a face of this person. I know you told me who the person is, but if you like to tell the audience, like where'd you get this this character from and and what inspired you to do it?

SPEAKER_02 9:39

Yeah, so the the character is Eddie Haskell, he's off a 1960s TV show, uh Leave It to Beaver, old school show. Um and he's uh he's pretty much like the troublemaker, but he like kisses ass like when the the parents, like the adults, are in the room. Like he'll be talking to his friends, trying to get them to do something, you know, bad, and then all of a sudden the mom will walk in, he'll be like, such a lovely dress you have on, Mrs. Cleaver. And like she'll like roll her eyes and be like, Yeah, whatever, Eddie. So I came up with that because I was doing slap tags when I first got into the sticker game, and I couldn't stick an image to the name that I was using at the time. And I was just trying to figure it out. I was using different ones, and it just didn't seem as as fun just to use anything like generic with my name. So I was looking looking through the internet, like obviously like Instagram and also in LA, and I I came across obviously chirp official, and I I got into his character a lot and heard him on a podcast. And then there's a guy here in LA, I forget his name now, but he uses Lucille Ball with a skull on it, and um, he does like a bunch.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

He hasn't been active in a while though, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:58

Yes, but like I I he's not on Instagram, okay. And so, like, I was I was watching, like, I was seeing those two, and I was like, all right, see, they have like a pretty dope like image. So I was like, all right, what can I think of that's like kind of like pop culture that somebody doesn't really like know of? And then I remember as a kid, you know my friend's parents would always call me Eddie Haskell because I dressed like a punk, but then like I would be like, Hey, what's up, how are you guys? And they'd be like, Yeah, whatever, Eddie. You know? So I just like all right, I'm I'm gonna use that character. I looked up some images and then kind of just yeah, turned them into like a stencil-like uh like image. Okay, definitely not as crisp as uh as chirrup though. That guy's that guy's that guy's Photoshop scale part.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

Yeah, shout out to Cheerup, man. Yeah, shout out to it. Yeah, he he just for for people to know, he does this clown, the sad clown. I know it's um I forget the name of the clown. Yeah, but yeah, he's a he's pretty drippy looking, but yeah, he's um very recognizable when you see it.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

Yeah. How do you feel when someone covers your art on the street? Yeah, I know it doesn't happen very often in the sticker game, at least here you try not to cover someone. But uh, do you get covered? How do you feel?

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Sometimes like I I I kind of have a beef with somebody out here. He's a he's a slap tagger, he like pills my stuff down, but uh I just laugh because I'm just like a grown man peeling down like a five cent sticker, you know? Like you're you're taking time out of your day to to peel off a sticker. I just laugh. I've I've been covered before. I either I either take it down or I'll just go right back over it. But for the most part, like I don't like to be honest, I really, I really don't care. It's a part of the game, you know. Like I don't I don't get upset. Like I for every one that gets pulled down or gets covered, I put two or three up, you know.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Oh yeah, that's uh trip's motto. Exponential.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

I'm an exponential, you know, sticker bomber, you know, one goes down, three go up. You know, just more, more, more, more.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I I have some haters too that peel them down. And to me, it's always so stupid because it's like just fucking put find another spot or just don't even look, you know, like it's like old people that are like, I don't like stickers. And it's like, well, don't fucking look at them then, you know, like look at the trees and the flowers and the nice shit around you. Like, don't look at my stupid fucking sailor, dude. You know, like it's just supposed to make you laugh, you know. I'm not trying to upset you. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 13:21

And what what makes me laugh too is like when I get covered by like a sticker that I know that like they didn't make, you know, and they they like Nike, yeah, like or like or like they ordered it from like Slaps Worldwide, you know what I mean? And I'm like, but like, and like, dude, that guy does killer stickers. I've almost like ordered from him just to get some slaps, you know.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

But like I'll look at it and I'll be like, they slaps worldwide not only made that design, he printed it too. So like you're not even hitting me with like you're not even stamping me with like an original sticker. You're you basically might as well have just bought it off Amazon, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 13:54

Buy one of those 500 bags of stickers and you're you're throwing those up.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

Exactly, exactly. That's the only time that like it kind of irritates me because I'm like, I know who printed that and I know who designed it. Like you didn't do it. So that's the only time that but again, I just I take it off or I just cover it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Nice. How do you define success as a street artist?

SPEAKER_02 14:16

For me, it's when I meet somebody that I've seen up everywhere, and they say, Hey, I like your work. Or or I'm at a there was one, he goes by the 146 on Instagram. He does uh he does like the Jesus stickers. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh he's everywhere here in Southern California, like everywhere. I'll be in a random city, like the sticks, and all of a sudden I'll be pulling out of like a taco bell and I'll look over, and there'll be like three of his stickers. And I'm like, like, what was he doing here? You know, like he's just everywhere. And um, I threw a black book event with my friend Peace, and he showed up, and I just see this this guy standing there with a bunch of Jesus stickers, and I was just like, Hey, are those yours? And he's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, hey, I'm sticker eddy, and he goes, I came here to meet you. And that like threw me off. I was like, whoa, okay. Like now I feel like I'm doing something because somebody of like that magnitude or that stature, who's been in the game for like 30 years, putting up those signs, 16 years, 20 years putting up those stickers is like, I came to meet you. That's like that things like that. Also, like I met Memo who like crushes it in uh the west side of LA. And uh I met him at an event, he was like, Hey man, it's an honor. You know what I mean? And like I'm like, this is coming from like like a beast. Like this guy puts we paste up, stickers are everywhere from like the west side of LA all the way to like Orange County, you know what I mean? So, like stuff like that. That's that's to me, I feel like I'm then I'm doing something.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

I love that. I love meeting people that I always wear my shit, you know, like hat, shirt, whatever. And I love when people be like, Fuck, I see that everywhere. And I was at a coffee shop the other day, and and she was like, Oh, I really I didn't know that guy sold shirts. And I said, I am that guy, and she was like, What? She's like, Oh my god, and of course I just give her stickers, you know, and I just it just it keeps you going, you know, it makes you feel like okay, maybe you know, that one person is all it takes for me to like just keep going, keep putting stickers up, you know. It's just it's that motivation.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

I think I was in I was in Walmart once and I was wearing just my shirt, like not even thinking, I had my character on my shirt, and this guy in line was like, Whoa, whoa, are you you the ninja? And I was like, Yeah, and all of a sudden he's like, Oh man, I love your stuff. And he's like, Can I get a photo? Of course, he I cover my face, he's taking a photo. The girl behind the counter was looking at me like, What? Who are you? She was just so confused. And the guy was like, Oh, it's a pleasure to meet you, man. Big fan. I'm like, What? It was so weird and random.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

That's killer. That's killer.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Um, any uh, any artists, like recent artists that got your attention that are that are you know getting you excited? Uh anything like that?

SPEAKER_02 17:03

Just the usual suspects. I like I like all the stuff that you guys do, the combos that you guys do, the smash, like how you guys do smash even in the middle of winter. I love how you guys uh uh up north are putting like combos up on those on those boxes. I'm just like, there's snow everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

I'm like, what the we went out last time Ninja came to Ottawa, it was like it took him like what 10 hours to get to Ottawa. It's a four-hour ride, took him 10 hours because it was a crazy blizzard. Uh he gets here. We went out one of the days, it was fucking freezing. It was like minus 30. You know, we had to like put up stickers and then like put your hands in your pockets or put gloves on because it's so fucking cold, you know? It's so cold, yeah. The wind, oh it was fucked up.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

We still but we still go out, you know, because that's what we do. Yes, definitely. Uh, how do you handle yourself uh around people when you're putting stuff up on the streets? Like uh just a bystander just is just happens to see you.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

Like, do you feel uncomfortable or yeah, there there were there was one actually for like a couple years there, like I wouldn't even like look over my shoulder. Like it got I got so comfortable doing it. Yeah, that I was actually out with this this guy named Seldom. We were out for like a couple hours, and I I just asked him while we were walking up towards the sign, I go, have you looked over your shoulder at once? And he's like, No. And then I I was just like, All right, I'm getting a little too comfortable with this, you know. So like, but then I started then I turned into the guy that like would like look over his shoulders, you know, and like look like a weirdo. So then I had to like just kind of calm it down. If if people are behind me, I get kind of weird because you just don't know who they are. I kind of I'll just like pause and just wait for them to pass and then kind of uh just go up there and do my thing. Or if if cars are coming, I just keep my back to them and just put up a couple stickers. Yeah, I just try to I try to keep to myself, I try to make it as as secretive as possible, nonchalant, you know, and just act like I'm just standing there. I have gotten bold though, you know, there are days where like I have like ran out to the center divider, broad daylight, you know, like on like a Sunday afternoon and hit the middle of like a huge highway. But um, you know, I try to keep to I try to keep to myself.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

I'll be at a light sometimes and I'll just like throw it in park and I run out and I just fucking throw it on a pole and I get back in my car. But like I'm always a little sketched out. People are behind me and they're like watching me, like, what the fuck is this guy doing? You know, like just I I one time too, again, I got super comfortable. I pulled up in my car and I got out and I just crushed this box. And then like a week later, fucking cops come to my house and they're like, Oh, you know, we got you know, you did these stickers and whatever. And I'm like, nah, I don't, you know, I don't know what you're talking about. And they're like, Well, we have you on video. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, okay, I remember that. Um, and it wasn't really a big deal, like they were just like paint over it, like you know, but um yeah, my wife was home for that one. That was not a good one. She's like, You're a fucking idiot, you know. Like, you know, I could be a heroin junkie, you know, I could smoke fucking crack instead. Like, at least I'm not, you know, doing anything crazy. You know, it's stickers. I just put up stickers, wheat paste, you know, it's my drug of choice. So it could be worse. It could be a crack. Exactly. I would just love to see your wife's face, like watching my kids are there, my kids will bring it up all the time. How many time that the fucking cops game? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Stupid shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

I think I've only jumped out of the car like twice. And of course, it was like coming home late at like 2 a.m. at a at a freeway exit. One other time, I just remember because I'm I'm real careful about like cameras and just people being, you know, because we're in the cell phone era, you know. It's not like the the I you always hear stories of like the the kids in the early 90s where they were just like they could do it broad daylight, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Um, a front porch camera. I have one on my front, I have a doorbell camera, I have a backyard camera, and I live like in a nice area.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Yeah. So like I'm all uh even when uh I would go out with people, they would be like, Hey, let's go in this parking lot. And I'm just like, no, I'm good. I'm gonna stick to the the corners in the streets, you know. Like, and if I do go in a parking lot, I don't walk up to like the signs that are like right in front of the building because it's like obviously they have cameras, you know. And and today's cameras, you know, they're in 4K. You look right at it, it's not a blared face anymore. They're they're gonna they're gonna zoom in and be like, yeah, that guy has like yeah, exactly. They're gonna be like, he has a tattoo right there under his face.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

That motherfucker. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

We know that guy.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Um, when it's all said and done, what do you want your work to leave behind besides obviously, you know, a sticker? Like, what do you want it to, what's your message?

SPEAKER_02 21:40

I've I've thought about that before, which is which is weird because it's like, why am I doing this? You know, if kids that are into art look at it and see it, and then like years later it's still running and they're still drawing, or if they're like, hey, you know, like I remember I I I met a kid quite a few years ago, oh only through Instagram. Uh he's a writer out here. And he goes, You were one of the first people I saw when I was getting into graffiti. You know, your your sticker was right by my house, you know. So if I can like inspire any like little young artist or just keep them, keep them going, and they just see the evolution of of my art, and they're just always like, yo, the his stickers look fun. They're everywhere. You know, they're always wondering who who's the other character in my stickers from all the collabs I've been doing. You know, like that's that's it for me, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

Beautiful, beautiful for the children, just like Wu Tang.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

Yeah, Wu Tang's for the children.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

For the children. I love it. I love it. I'm a teacher, you know. So for me, it's the same thing. I want kids to be inspired. I want people to smile and laugh and be like, that's so fucking dumb, but it's also hilarious, you know. Like just enjoy it.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Yeah, yeah, for sure. That you're uh I showed my daughter, because uh she loves your guys' stickers. I obviously, you know, I I've I've sent you the photo of her wearing your beanie when we went to theme park. The one that I showed her was I showed you guys uh where you did the famous uh farm.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Yeah, yeah, Canadian Gothic.

SPEAKER_02 23:05

Yeah, and I so I showed I showed her the real photo and she she she laughed. She goes, Oh, that's what they're doing. And I was like, Yes, that's the famous photo that they that they did when she was cracking up.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

That's one of my all-time favorites. It's just again, it's just like so dumb, but so good. And I have some fucking huge ones I printed. So we put up some like they're a foot by a foot, 12 inches, and we just throw those up, and it's like just it just covers whatever you put up. So it's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Who came up with that sticker? Because that thing is hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

Well, it's always a joint thing. I feel like maybe, maybe I have more ideas. I'm always like throwing ideas at ninja. I'm like, oh, we gotta do this, we gotta do this, we gotta do this. And then, you know, he he you know executes it. Um, but it's always a joint thing. Like, we'll just shoot in the shit, you know, like and and I was like, Oh, we gotta do a Star Wars one. And it's like, yeah, you know, and then you're trying to think who can we be. Uh, you know, we did one, um, we did one that didn't really work. There was uh Hagrid thing. Yeah, yeah, Hagrid. Yeah, and it just it just not that it didn't work, it just it, you know, sometimes you do and you're like, ah, it was kind of like the first time that it just didn't quite feel right, I think, you know. So we're just always, you know, shooting the show.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

It didn't work.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

Yeah, I mean, we've also had like 20 collabs, probably.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

So what was that one that movie with um Peter Fonda? I think it is. Um when they're on the motorcycles.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Oh yeah, easy rider. Easy rider, yeah. Easy rider.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Easy rider, yeah. Uh, I remember watching that movie, and then I was like, Yes, I want to do like a ninja on a motorbike. And I remember telling you, and you're like, what if it's both of us? And I was like, oh shit, even better. So I think there was also there's a part in that movie where I think Jack Nicholson is on the back. So they're like two of them. So that's why that motorcycle one that we did, trips guys riding on the back, like you know, he's like it's pretty hilarious because he's huge and my ninja's small, and it was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

Image, those, those, those collabs are killer.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

So for the collabs that you do though, uh how do you pick your like the people? Like, I know you reached out to me recently just because you were bored one day and you're like, I came with this great idea, blah blah blah, right? And we we did the collab, but how do you pick your your artist or idea, all that?

SPEAKER_02 25:26

For for me, I just look at people like that for their art that I like and see if we can like work something out, you know. I'll just be like, hey, are you interested in collabing? You know, sometimes obviously, like if they don't know me, they'll I get shot down, you know. Yeah, I just like I just ask people for the their art that I like and see if we can both like I'll send them my image, they'll send me theirs, and then we'll just like tinker with it and see which one you know we like the best. You know, and sometimes collabs just even come out of just even like other collabs. Like I ended up collabing with Cachoo from Canada.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Nice, we know Cachoo. Shout out to Cacho. We just yeah, shout out to Cachoo. We just uh interviewed her.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Oh, yeah, she's she's killer, she's killer. Like it's it's just crazy. Like, there's like one thing that she did in like uh in like an abandoned warehouse where it's just this like line all the way up to like the flower, yeah. And it's just like a killer photo. I'm just like, dude, like who yeah, her characters are are are cool, but her that collab came from the cartoon car collab that uh I got invited to, you know, and that had like ninja, you were in there, so like that had like 10 or 11 artists on there, and so that so I started collabing with her, just people's artwork that I like, you know. And then of course, like there was somebody, uh, my boy Red Yeti down here in Southern California. Somebody pointed him out one day, and all of a sudden I liked his character, and so I just hit him up and was just like, hey man, would you like to collab? And he was like, Yeah, and so we just started like coming up with ideas.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Okay, so that's good that you guys just brainstorm kind of ideas, like I want to work with you, let's think of something kind of stuff, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:59

Yes, and uh the only bummer for me is like I don't draw, so I have to like sometimes I'll have to like either take their image and work mine in, like, say like turtle caps. He has like just a straight image, and so do I. So I had to figure out how to do it. So I just took his turtle and kind of like layered my stuff inside of it. Nice. Whereas, like, say my whole like my friend Peace and my friend Red Yeti, like for them, I kind of like throw out ideas and then then they'll they'll kind of bring it to life since they're like actual artists, you know, it's not just like a photo shop.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

You're a fucking artist too. Don't sell yourself short, man.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

Don't sell yourself short at this vegan restaurant that I go to, it just got bought out, and there's this young young girl that sits behind the counter, and I walked up to pay for my food. She's sitting there with her iPad and a and a pen. And I I I just like tilted my head and I go, You you draw? And she's like, Yeah, yeah. Young girl. And uh she's like, Yeah, it's okay. And I go, All right, well, next, next time I'd like to see it. And then me and my girl, we go into the we go into the restaurant, she brings her iPad over, and it is like some like very detailed, awesome anime. Like this girl's probably like still in high school, and she's doing like some like advanced art, you know. So like when I see stuff like that, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm I'm I'm at like the bottom tier, you know, because I'm just doing Photoshop, you know, I get it. Easy stuff, you know, whereas like these people are like, you know, out there, like really, really drawing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Yeah, yeah. Any last words, uh, a sentence, a word you want to leave people with?

SPEAKER_02 28:37

Shout out to Red Yeti. Uh, he got me back in the game. Uh, I took I took some time off, life got in the way, and then uh he hit me up just like a month ago and was just like, yo, let's let's start doing this again. So I want to give a shout out to him. Uh he's been pushing me to like get more creative, um, you know, take combos out with me to put more stickers up, things like that. So yeah, I just want to give him a shout-out. And and to you guys, because you guys are always friendly to to me online and you know, are up for collabs, which is like I'm like, I'm like stoked on because uh every once in a while I'll get that imposter syndrome, you know what I mean? I'll be like, should should I should I be here? You know what I mean? Like, am I allowed to be hanging out with like because you guys are like you guys are you know beasts when it comes to this this sticker and street art game, you know, because you guys are worldwide, so I'm just like it's it's awesome that you guys are super friendly and humble.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Appreciate that. Yeah, appreciate that. Yeah. Well, thanks so much for joining us today on Visual Noise Walls Talk. Ninja, any last words? Just put up stickers, man. Get up, get up, get it up.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

See you next time, everyone. Peace. Peace.