Bones Unfiltered Podcast : Music Edition Episode #7, featuring Devin Moore

In Episode #7 of the Bones Unfiltered Podcast : Music Edition, we sit down with Devin Moore, an up-and-coming talent from Louisa, Kentucky.  Devin shares his journey from small-town roots to big dreams, opening up about his influences, his creative process, and the raw stories behind his music.  Tune in for a heartfelt conversation and discover the next rising star in country music.  

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:31

All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the number seven edition of the Bones Unfiltered podcast. I'm your host, Bones. This is number seven for the music edition. And I had a cancellation today, and thankfully, one of my buddies that I have not had on yet, uh, Devin Moore, was free and available to fill in, so I could still get this one done. So it worked out really nice. So uh ladies and gentlemen, everybody welcome Devin Moore from Louisa, Kentucky. How's it going, guys? And he is a solo artist. Well, uh, you know what? He was a solo artist. So there is actually a new development since I've seen this young man in per you know and talked to him in a while. He actually has uh they've he's now got a band going. So so Devin, tell us tell us about this revelation, man, because that's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:24

Well, I was doing solo for probably about I don't know, about I'd say about two years, two or three years. And then I finally realized uh I need I need a band. Everybody needs a band. If you're a singer and you're a solo singer, I mean you're eventually gonna find a band. It's just hard telling when you're gonna find it. Right. Uh our band name is Rosary Sons. It's it's pretty cool how I came up with the name. I was looking at my uh lead guitarist as a strap and it had a rose on it. And I was like, what could I what can I do with that? Rosary Sons. And then came out that way, and now we're we're we're not exactly like a country genre, but we're like a southern rock slash like grunge, and you know, it's just depending on what people want us to play, we can do it.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

Heck yeah. Now, how many pieces uh band are you all? We're a five-piece. Five-piece band, no shit. So you all got what do you got? Uh you got a guitarist, drummer, bassist?

SPEAKER_05 2:22

Got a guitarist, rhythm guitarist, well, lead guitarist, rhythm guitarist, a drummer, bassist, and I sing and I play guitar, but you know, since we got so many people in the band, I'm like, I'll put my guitar down for a little bit and sing because I can focus on singing and really like projects my saying.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Oh, heck yeah. Now, do you like that?

SPEAKER_05 2:41

Are you are you kind of glad to be able to kind of focus more on singing versus practice makes practice so much more fun because you know there's so many more different opinions now. It's like four of the four of the people's opinions, and it's it's pretty nice.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Now, what do y'all practice in your studio that where you're sitting at right now?

SPEAKER_05 2:59

No, uh, my lead guitarist, he has uh like an actual studio at his house. Like it's like in a it's like in a I want to say like a trailer, and it's like completely made into a studio because his family always played music and his dad built it, and it's very cool. I'll send you a picture of it one day so you see it.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

Oh, heck yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Well, can do congratulations on the band, man. That was that's awesome news to hear. So now um have you all done any gigs yet or are you all just getting started?

SPEAKER_05 3:28

We got some lined up right now. We got September, we're doing a wedding, June. I think June 5th, we're uh going out to some bar and playing, and June 4th, we've got uh like um a little festival to play at.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

Oh, sweet ass. And for those of you all that uh, you know, that will be tuning into this, and uh I know I didn't get the chance to promote this one um like I wanted to, like uh because of the cancellation. I didn't even have time to even do the promotion for the um the other band that had canceled on me, um, Lowdown Revival, because um I I've had my mind has been everywhere because I I get the this is TMI, but I get the lovely privilege of starting the colonoscopy prep in the morning. So yay, and then I get to go fucking have that fun on Thursday. So my mind has been anywhere and everywhere where it shouldn't be. So I didn't really do things justice like I did before. But the good thing is is that Devin jumped in here to bail me out so I could at least get a podcast in this week. And since he's got the new band, it doesn't really matter about this one as much because we are gonna eventually show, we'll get like a band photo. Once he's done some stuff with them, we'll get a band photo. We will uh have them all back on, and we'll actually give everybody notice where people can actually see and um and be prepared for this podcast, and then we'll do it again at some point in time. Um, Devin also, for those of you all that do not know, Devin also was nominated for some uh nominations for the award show that we're gonna be having in Oak Grove, Tennessee, through Southern Lights Entertainment. And um, Devin, do you want to you want to tell him about what the the the uh nominations that you have received for that award show and what what you're up for?

SPEAKER_05 5:28

I believe it's for um songwriter. Was it solo artist too?

SPEAKER_00 5:34

Solo artist, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:36

Solo artist. I think singer, songwriter, and solo artist is what I'm nominated for.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Heck yeah. And he's he's an up and comer, so we we're really blessed to have him on here. We're really blessed that he's you know he got some nominations for the award show. I don't know, are you planning on going or are you not sure if you're gonna be able to make that or yet or not?

SPEAKER_05 5:56

You say how far is it away?

SPEAKER_00 5:58

November 14th.

SPEAKER_05 6:00

I have to check it out, make sure.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

Okay, yeah. So that's gonna be a good time. It's in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. For those of you all who may or may not know, it's in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, at the historic Oak Grove Theater, which if if no one's seen that thing, it it's actually a really nice theater. Like it's uh it's very nice. I'm actually stoked about going.

SPEAKER_05 6:22

I think I've ever standing for what's it kind of like? Is it like uh dude?

SPEAKER_00 6:26

I wonder if I could pull up, I wonder if I could even pull up a photo and show you. Um yeah, it's it's nice. It's a nice, it's uh 500 cap. It used to be bigger, but they've actually I think they divided it. So I think one half now belongs to a church, the other half is still kind of the Oak Grove Theater. Um, I wish I had, you know what I that's what I need to do is I need to find it and then actually get a picture of it and put it on my computer so I can pull it up and show it because it is uh it's a really nice, it's a really nice venue.

SPEAKER_05 7:03

Um we do a podcast with a band. Uh we might do it at the uh the studio at my buddy's house. Because uh it's pretty big in there. I think we can get the camera to like get us all in there.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

That would y'all that'd be cool. Let's see if I can find this thing. I'm probably not gonna be able to. Oh, that's because I'm on the wrong shit. Here we go. Let's see if I can find it. And I don't have time to download it necessarily to do it the good way, but it doesn't fucking matter. Um see if I can find a picture of it. And of course when I want to, I can't find shit. You know, if I didn't want to find it, it would be on every damn page I turn to. Um now, have you um are you all are you currently working on any um like albums or anything like that?

SPEAKER_05 8:03

Yeah, we're gonna album that's uh in the works right now. We're building the songs up for it right now. I think we could we're about there. We got about five songs. I think we want to make it like a seven-song album, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Oh, that'll be nice.

SPEAKER_05 8:15

Which uh my uh guitarist's dad, he like does recording and stuff, so recording.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

Well, this ain't yeah, I'll have to look for it and we'll do this. I'll bring that up at another time, but uh, because I'm finding all sorts of other photos, but not the photos that I want. Now, that being said, I do have this, which is I did find a couple things. Um one thing that I found. Let's see, because I downloaded these, they should be right here. Well, they should be. Let's see if they're in the recess. Here we go. All right, now this is a blast from the past, right here. This one is that is way back. Look at that baby face. You almost got the Amish beard going on. I love it. It's like it it nothing grows around your mouth, it's just underneath. I love it. Now, how old how old were you in that photo, brother?

SPEAKER_05 9:15

I was probably like I want to say 15 or 14.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

No shit. So it was it was when you were just getting started.

SPEAKER_05 9:24

My my uh rhythm guitarist the other day, he he's making fun of me by the day. He said you look like a baby in there.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

You do got that, you do got that baby face in there, and uh welcome Scott Brayley. The guy that's in here now that just jumped in. Um, his name's Scott Brayley. He used to be a manager uh for bands, but now he kind of does more promotional stuff. Um he's out of Maine, but I tell you what, this dog is the shit, man. He is so cool, he's so nice, and I tell you what, he really strives to just put what's what's his name? His name's Scott Braille, B-A B-R-A-L-E-Y. Excuse me, B-R-A-L-E-Y. And uh he's a he's such a good dude, man. I don't know how he found me, but I tell you what, he jumps in podcasts, he sends stuff, he he re he shares shit. He is like he's just an all-around, just he's just a cool dude. I I hope to meet him in real life someday, too, because he's just super fucking cool, man. What a good dude. And one of these days I need to have him on here to talk about like when he used to manage and different shit like that. I need to have him on. What's new now? Do say it again, brother.

SPEAKER_05 10:40

What's the do now?

SPEAKER_00 10:41

I now I think he's more promotions, does like promoting and stuff like that. But uh, but I tell you what, he's active on social media, like on the fucking regular. So he's a good dude. Now I got another photo too that I'd found. I didn't find much, obviously, um, because you were kind of getting kind of getting started. But I want you know, this picture's kind of a cool photo. You were kind of all decked out. Uh now where were you at in this and what were you doing? Because you it almost looks like you're going to an award show. I mean, you have the nice fucking you look dapper as hell. You got the suit on.

SPEAKER_05 11:20

Well, uh, what day was that? That was down at like in Louisa. There's two parks. There's one park with a waterfowl, and that was the park I was at. And uh I think it was either homecoming or prom, I can't remember. And uh I was getting dappered out, you know. I had to address good for the ladies.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Oh, well, hell yeah. But that's a good photo of you. Now I know like your Facebook and stuff, you don't have a whole whole lot of photos and stuff. Now you do put up like band flyers and stuff, like when he's doing uh different gigs, he'll put up flyers from where he's gonna be at and whatnot. But these are the two photos that kind of stood out to me. You have another one of the baby face photos that was good too. That um it was just a different position, same attire, but just a different position. So um now with the new band, have you you haven't gone out, you haven't got any photos yet of them, have you? Like you haven't you haven't done any band photos yet?

SPEAKER_05 12:17

Talk to them about it. Uh I just don't I don't want to do it in the front yard. I want to do it somewhere where it's like you know, it's scenic um background, you know. Right. Get a good band picture and um probably make at the album. I'm not sure yet.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

That'll be cool. I'm just excited that you got a band. I mean, that was fucking good news. That's cool news, so that's really good. Hard. Hard. Oh, I bet. Now, how many gigs have you done so far this year before you even got the band? Have you done anything?

SPEAKER_05 12:49

Uh I've I've lost count, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

I I can't because I noticed that you're I mean you're pretty busy. You stay pretty busy. Now, do you are you staying mainly around Louisa or are you actually well are you traveling out?

SPEAKER_05 13:04

I go about an hour or two out sometimes, just depending on who wants me to come play. I'm starting to traveling to Lexington, get out there, you know, just keep going from there and traveling out more. Oh, hell yeah. I've been told that I need to get away from this small town, and I recognize that I do, but I don't want to leave my band behind because it's you know, it'll just be messed up. And I believe they got potential to be some of the greats.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

And well, and that's noble that you're not you you know, you're just starting a band and you're not you're wanting to shit on them, you know, and that's that says a lot about your character too. It's like, no, now I'm not solo anymore, now I'm a band. Yeah, and we gotta do things as a group. And it's expensive to travel as a group, especially a five-piece.

SPEAKER_05 13:51

Luckily, we already got a van. My lead guitarist has got my he got everything.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

No shit.

SPEAKER_05 13:58

Yeah, he's got a van and it's perfect. We can fit everything in there and just go off, you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

But gas these days are like Yeah, gas is fucking retarded right now. Yeah, yeah, that's not fun. That's not a good topic of discussion right now, is it? It costs you an arm and a leg to go anywhere. So, like uh any any prospect ideas of where you would like to bandwise hit first if you're leaving kind of Louisa behind.

SPEAKER_05 14:29

I don't know. We've talked about going to um where was that? I think it was New Orleans and going out there and playing for a little bit and like start traveling like to Tennessee and go out there and play a little bit. It's just whatever they want to do, really. It's because I'm down for anything. I mean, I don't work, I just sing and trying to make a living out of this, which I'm doing pretty good at right now. Which is good. I it's a band discussion. I'll have to that'd probably be a good question to ask whenever uh we got to do it.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Yeah, whenever we do it again. Yeah. That sounds good. Yeah, I wish I would have been able to promote this a little bit better, but I have like I say I dropped the ball this week with everything going on. But the good thing is people always see it after the fact. Yeah. So but um the next time, like we'll get band photos of you guys, then I'll I'll actually put something out a day or two ahead of time. That way people can also plan because you know, people a lot of people just don't they don't know that I go live until they just stumble upon it. So, you know, I had Scott Scott dropped in in here and said hi, like he always does, and and then several of the others will jump in. And uh there's a lot of ladies that I have on here that they come in all the time, but generally I've been trying to do a better job with at least giving a day's notice so people know and talk about it. And I screwed the pooch on that for low down revival and for you, but but I appreciate you bailing me out because the uh the lead singer with low down revival was just not he was kind of ill today, so it's it just wasn't a good day for him. So he's like, Hey, can we reschedule? And I was like, Yeah, absolutely. So they're they're they're a cool band too. They're I love I love I I've really been enjoying talking to everybody and doing these up and comers, man. It's so I don't know, man. It's so much, it's so fun. We got a lot of just a lot of talented people that are gonna be at that award show and everything else. And of course, you're you're you know, you're right there in that fucking mix, man. So hopefully you'll be able to go to the award show too. It'd be cool to hang out with you and see you again because it's been a while, that's for sure. How things been with you? Been good? Yeah, things have been things have been pretty good. Um, I can't complain. Um I started podcasting because of uh our we picked up uh Pam Little, which is the owner and CEO of Southern Lights Entertainment. Well, she does obviously booking, so she started helping with booking for us, and now I still do stuff to help because obviously the more people that are doing shit the the more likely you're gonna come across stuff. The big hiccup we had this year with James Lucre, which I don't think you necessarily had that problem. You've been kind of working with this, but you know, the thing that we had with him that that really hurt us on gigs was the fact that so many of these venues actually wanted us to have our own sound, and we didn't have everything. Now we picked up sticks once we got sticks, then it worked out kind of nice because he that that young man has a lot of stuff already, but there were still we needed some PAs, we needed a board, there were some things that we had to get so we could stop losing gigs because we didn't have sound. So I think I lost 15 gigs this year because we didn't have sound, but but you know, when he's a my guys are young lads like you, so and when you're a young lad, it you know, and it you gotta it's it's hard to expect somebody like that to be able to just shell out several thousand dollars to get what you need, yeah. So you got everything to do the jobs, and they and these venues anymore aren't they they don't want to pay nothing, but they certainly don't want to pay, but they expecting you to also bring all these thousands of dollars worth of gear so you can perform, yeah. And they're not even wanting to pay extra for the gear cost that you know, because if they had to do it, I mean, hell, if you had to do a sound engineer and sound and have everything you need to do a show, you're talking, I mean, that's a very expensive venture, yeah. Just for that, not counting any artists coming to sing. So plus gas and yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 18:57

Eating and everything else, it's it's uh it's hard, it's hard, it is.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

Now, does the rest of your band are they are they like you, are they just strictly into the music aspects, or do a lot of them have to revolve around jobs currently still?

SPEAKER_05 19:13

Well, I got one band member that has a job and he still makes everything work pretty good. And honestly, I appreciate him a lot because if it wasn't for him, you know, me and him like half prices. Like if it's some if we're planning on buying a PA or speaker, he'll come to me and be like, All right, uh, we'll have this so it makes it cheaper for both of us. You know what I mean? So I ain't just paying for myself, and I I appreciate that from him because you know, a lot of people won't do that.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

No, no, hell no. Well, and that's awesome. And I'm glad it seems like you're really happy with now that you've finally got a band and I mean it changes your the didactic of everything that you've been doing up to this point. Yeah, but I think it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_05 19:56

It is a good thing, and I'm still like learning the ins and outs of it and like how to be, you know, more dynamic with it. And I'm starting to realize like we need more mics in the room. We need like I in my head, I think everybody should have a mic, even if they don't want to sing, because you know for one, it just makes it look better, and two, it's you know, a lot of these big bands, everybody is singing in harmony, you know, and it gives it almost like an aspect of like I don't know, something deeper than music.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

No, yeah. And and now that you got a band, now you can also do some stuff like either pay, well, eventually you could pay to have it professionally done. But I'll tell you what, these iPhones nowadays, you know, my guy James and them, they did a music video not too long back on their iPhone. And I mean, hell, for for free, you know, for something you already have, you can make do with what you got until you eventually start setting money aside, and then you can actually get professional people in that actually do a really good job to create good music videos and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 21:06

Got this new thing out, it's called uh Enjoy, I think, and it's like you set it uh, it's got a little saying and it's like a little square, a little square, a little box, and it's got speakers on every side. So you can set it in the middle of the room and you can control it on your phone if you want reverb, you know, if you want this vocal in it, you can control it, and it's really cool. It's like$200. I'm thinking about getting one.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

No shit. Oh, I hadn't heard of that. That's kind of cool. It's really cool. I'll have to check that out when you get it. You have to send me a picture of it. Let me see it.

SPEAKER_05 21:37

Show it to me. She knows about it.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

That'd be cool. That'd be cool as hell. And you know, I've been thinking about I've been I've been looking, me been looking at other things. Like I've also been looking at venues around here that are actual rental halls where you can actually rent something to actually put on your own show. But God dang, dude, you talking about it's a head. Swimmer, it's like there's so much, so much stuff that goes on with that aspect, and I've never done it. So, like, I've been learning, like getting information, what does it cost, and reaching out to these halls and Louisville? Because I was like, Well, you know, I could do a show with like James Lucer, and I could call people somebody like you, Courtney Joe, you know, Kate Sparks. I could call people that I currently know and say, hey, do you want to be a part of this ticket and have like three bands play and and do that stuff? But boy, man, uh at least the ones I've looked at thus far. You're I mean, hell, just to rent, just to rent the hall for like, you know, just to rent the hall for like a on a weekend is I mean, you're looking anywhere between like five and almost seven thousand to rent the hall.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

That's insane.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

And that, you know, it covers your front of the house, it covers your lights and sound and security, but still, it's that's a lot, that's a lot of money up front. And then, you know, it's like he's making like 15 a show, but you know, it's hard to get to these days.

SPEAKER_05 23:15

It's yeah, you gotta have your name built up to get that.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

Exactly. And it's no offense to people like you know, James or you or any of us. You know, we're all we're all up and comers and we're all starting. So to be able to jump into that aspect right away is is a stretch. It really is.

SPEAKER_05 23:33

We we all figure our ways out, and you know, some people got more bumps in the roads than the other, than the other. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

But you know, you keep trudging along, you'll get there.

SPEAKER_05 23:43

It's just a matter of willpower. Yeah, take it.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

Amen. Now, and any uh any songs that you've been working on for that would that you were working on when you were just a solo artist before you started with the band that you that you kind of want to carry over with the the main band?

SPEAKER_05 24:03

There's a good amount of them that I've showed the band and let them hear it and they do their own little thing on it, and it usually sounds pretty good. But I don't know, we're still working through it and trying to figure out what we want as a band, like what look like what kind of genre we're trying to hit for. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

That was gonna be my next question. Do you think you want to shift genres a little bit or do you kind of like where you're kind of hanging?

SPEAKER_05 24:28

Uh a little bit, because like I don't know, I've realized when I got a band that I can hit notes that I didn't know that I could hit. And it's like, do I want to be a grunge artist or do I want to be a country artist? But I'm from Kentucky, so you know it makes sense if I was country, but you know, Southern Rock kind of leads into a little bit of grunge, but it also kind of leads into country, so it's like half and half.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Yeah, it's like the best of both worlds, yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see. Now, what are the other guys like the other guys that are in your band now? Were they kind of into the country and southern rock aspects, or were some of them kind of like, oh man, I'm new to this. I actually was more rock or more, you know, punk ska, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 25:11

I feel like my lead guitarist and my drummer, I feel like they both are like big blues fans. They love blues, like uh CCR and stuff like that. Like they love that kind of and my rhythm guitar is he's he's just down with whatever I'm down with. We kind of made this together because we was just sitting at a party one night and uh started talking about it and was like, we need to do something with this. And he wasn't really like he's always been in the music, but he was never like in the music scene. Like and I'd always tell him about it, he thought it was really cool. And then we started talking about it and just built it from there. We started off as a three-piece, we got a bassist, and then uh we moved on, and we got a lead guitarist that failed, and we kept playing as a three-piece for a little while. Then we got another lead guitarist, and we did a little, we did, we got some pretty good success with him, and then things kind of hit the fan, and now we're where we are now with the five-piece. And he my rhythm guitarist was my drummer actually in the like the beginning. Because I thought we got too many guitars, man. I said we need something else, drums, you know, something else. And he opt on drums, thankfully. And uh now we uh got somebody that's like he's been playing drums for probably about five or six years, so he knows the ropes and rounds it.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Mm-hmm. It's pretty cool. I'm excited, dude. I'm excited for you. That's fucking that was good news, man. I'm really excited to kind of see you guys do some stuff and and uh see you maybe start being able to produce stuff to where you can put it on like YouTube and stuff like that where we can check it out. I'm excited about that. That's a good that was a that was really neat to hear that from you.

SPEAKER_05 26:53

Stuff on TikTok. Our uh I believe our uh username is uh Rosary Sons on there.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

Okay, cool. I'll have to check you out then because I looked for some of your stuff. I didn't look on TikTok. Now, do you do stuff when you were doing your solo artist stuff? Were you doing stuff on TikTok? Is that where you spent more of your time was really on the TikTok?

SPEAKER_05 27:15

That's where I know a lot of a lot of people are on TikTok, you know, and it's so easy for somebody just to see you on TikTok, you know, it just takes one person.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Yep, you're damn right about that, brother. That's all it takes, is the one person. Doesn't matter how many people's watching, it just takes that one person to see you. Now I know like for you, I told you you're on kick. Now I don't have a whole lot of followers yet on kick, but apparently kick, I chose kick because uh little Milfi was telling me that um kick obviously is very popular. It's kind of like Twitch, but it's more popular with the youthful crowd. So, you know, that's obviously it kind of hits your category a lot better. And same with James, me having James, I'm like, dude, I might as well try to also tag a you know a social media area that that does have youth in it, because you know, the other bands I had, I mean, we we we had some youth, but a lot of times our clientele was a little different. So it'd be it'd be nice to kind of hit all spectrums, you know.

SPEAKER_05 28:16

And that's kind of why I I like using TikTok because you got like it's just it's youth, there's a lot of youth, but there's also a lot of older people on TikTok, and it's like you can get a lot of people to see you just doing the right thing, and you just gotta find your rhythm first.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

And I don't know how the fuck that there's some uh some people that I know that they do a lot on so much on TikTok to where they're they're actually making fairly good money on TikTok.

SPEAKER_05 28:42

Mom's doing pretty good on TikTok, she does um dances and stuff and sings on there.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

And uh Oh, I didn't know that. Your mom does that, yeah. No shit. I didn't know that. That's hilarious. I bet she is loving that. I bet she really likes that. How long has she been doing that? I want to say for about really?

SPEAKER_05 29:01

She's had a lot, she's had good success with it for the amount of time she's been doing it. She's probably been doing it for about two months now, and she's she's popping off on there.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

No shit. Well, congratulations to your mom. That's cool, man. That's awesome that she's doing now. What kind of you say she do does some dance and stuff too? What what kind of dance does she do?

SPEAKER_05 29:19

I don't know. I don't know if she makes it up herself or she just uh kind of looks at like the trends on TikTok. I'm not really sure how she does it.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

So yeah, she's probably paying attention. Yeah, yeah. That's one thing I haven't really started, I haven't done is to try to monetize anything on TikTok yet. I stick with social media. Like I let James, he does, he loves the TikTok, and I'm like, well, you do the TikTok and I'll fuck with Facebook because you know, my old ass just now I'm getting to where I'm getting pretty proficient with StreamYard here and and TikTok. I'm actually starting to learn how to do shit. So it's like, but I I can't take on too, I can't bite off too much. If I go too fast, I'll get myself in trouble. But um, but that's awesome that your mom's doing that. So TL TikTok, man, they uh there's there they make some good money now. I've made some monetized money on uh Facebook, and I haven't done much, but hell, my my handicapped son made me the most money that he made more money than I ever did. And then the little girl that I did, which is my neighbor's granddaughter that uh now lives in Florida, she's Down syndrome. She between her and Brandon, they were the only ones that generated me money, so I don't, you know, I don't know how they did it, but they did. And it's not like it's much, but it was just the fact that it happened, and it's happened relatively quick, which is kind of nice too, because this podcast officially isn't that old yet. Um well we're on the we're on number official. You're number seven on the music, and I've done two of the special needs. Special needs one's a little bit more challenging, and and I I don't know if I'm gonna necessarily try to do it weekly or if I'm just gonna kind of do every bi-weekly with that.

SPEAKER_05 31:10

I feel like that I feel like with that side of it, you like need to know the person a little bit more. Like you know me pretty know music pretty well, so we can we make conversation pretty well, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 31:21

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because I got I got the privilege to meet him. Let's see. We were in Morgantown, weren't we? Was it Morgantown, Kentucky? At that mud park.

SPEAKER_05 31:32

Either that or Grayson. I I'm not sure exactly.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Or maybe it was Grayson. Yeah, it might have been. I think you're right. I think it was Grayson. And uh we had a mud park, and the stage was right out there by it wasn't far from the freeway. Matter of fact, you could see it. You could see it from the freeway when you drove by it.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

See that up there?

SPEAKER_00 31:51

I who ran that? It wasn't no, it wasn't Rick Kaufman. Who was who was that that I forgot his name? I forget his name too. It was a fun show, man. That was a good it was a fun show, and it was a fun after party where you know we went up, we all went up on the hill there where everybody was mudding and went way up. It was that was a lot of fun, man. It was good times.

SPEAKER_05 32:12

I like the little truck show they had. They had all them uh 18 wheelers over there.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Yeah, yeah, that was cool too. Hell yeah. Yeah, that's one thing I I hope to get maybe one mud park. It'd be nice to get maybe one mud park for James this year. I think it'd be fun.

SPEAKER_05 32:28

They're still running that place over there, honestly. I ain't seen nothing on it.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

Oh, really? Well, maybe they're maybe they're not. I don't know, man. They spent man, they spent a lot of money. That stage was pretty permanent. It was a I mean, they they put some money into that, it seemed like, but spot two, that field was huge. Say that again.

SPEAKER_05 32:47

It is a killer spot, too. That field was huge.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Oh, hell yeah, dude. That field hell fuck. Tons of people. Not to mention people were coming in the backside there, bringing in their ATVs and shit like that, and side by sides and sitting there watching the show off in the distance. And you had room for people standing, you know, up by the up by us, and then all the way in the back just sitting there in their side-by-sides watching, kind of like they did when we went to um Cloud Nine Ranch in Missouri. That was a good show. That was a fun show, too. When we went there, they had a big stage, and it was the same concept. People would come up with their side-by-sides and sit, or they could sit in lawn chairs, or they could, or they could stand in front of the stage. So they had like a multi-tiered section of however you wanted to do it. It was really pretty cool.

SPEAKER_05 33:38

I wish I could have stayed longer that day. I had to I had to sing, and then I had to get down back down the road to a rodeo because I double booked for that day. So I had to that's right.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

You did. That's right. Because I didn't, yeah, we didn't get to hang out as much as we thought because you had to leave. And that was a good show you did. It was a really good show. But hell, he did that. He was solo artist back then, so and you were double booked, which which uh I guess worked out. I guess you made it to the rodeo, right?

SPEAKER_05 34:08

Yeah, I made it. It's pretty cool. Then we had a cool afterwards, it was dope.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

What was the rodeo at in Louisa, Kentucky?

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Louisa was it?

SPEAKER_00 34:17

Hell yeah. Well yeah, yeah, that was that was fun. That's where hell that's where I met you and Kate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:24

It worked out good because uh I don't know if you ever heard Noah Thompson, but his little brother was for uh me that that day, and he sung until then, and then I got there just at the at the perfect time. It was almost like it lined up perfectly.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

No shit. Well, I'm glad that I'm glad you made it because I know it was like, holy shit, there's uh you were cramming a lot of stuff in a small window of opportunity.

SPEAKER_05 34:48

I love it though, it keeps me going, keeps me running.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

Hell yeah, absolutely. Well, it's uh it's one of them things that uh you're yeah, I mean, I'm so glad you got a band now too, because I think you're just gonna go even further and further because you've got a hell of a lot of talent. So, you know, for people out there listening, if you haven't seen him, you you need to check out Devin Moore because the the young man's got lots of talent. But now that you got a band, that's a I'm I'm so I'm now I'm even more intrigued because and what are they called again?

SPEAKER_05 35:20

Rosary Rosary Rosary Sons.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

Sons, that's right.

SPEAKER_05 35:25

That's gonna be cool. Sons as in like a father's son.

SPEAKER_00 35:29

Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Not sun like the in the sky to keep you warm, not like that. But hell yeah, that's all that's awesome. So like so kind of tell me what what's going on here to your your left. What is that? Is that a table? What is that?

SPEAKER_05 35:50

Oh it's a little uh it's for my uh I got this thing called uh I don't even know how to say that. It's my little uh PA thing. I got my microphone thing here and my computer and I I'm starting to work with the recording. It's hard. It's so hard. Oh god, I can only fathom. Nah, because whenever you're looking at the uh the thing that you're putting your music on, the uh whatever studio thing you're using, you really gotta know it. Because if you don't know it, then you ain't gonna know how to record it, you ain't gonna know how to put your uh like effects on it. I had somebody chat one time when I was working with them, and I really didn't pay attention that well. And that's like when I was young and dumb still, but I'm still young and dumb, but not as much as I used to be. I think the next person I work with, I'll pay more attention and figure it out so I can do it myself and you know, bring it to the bane and let them hear it with the reverb and stuff on it so they can perfect it.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Hell yeah. That'll be cool. Yeah, I bet them programs are number one, I bet they're not cheap. And number two, golly, man.

SPEAKER_05 37:02

It's hard to know which one to trust too, because there's so many fake ones that like you think work, but not really.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

And I remember Shannon had I don't even know what the name of his program was, but it was so huge. I think like it had so many fucking options. I was like, how do you even wrap your head around this? There were so many, it's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_05 37:28

It almost makes you want to go pay to let somebody do it because it's so hard to like figure out, and you really gotta. I mean, YouTube's a thing. If you YouTube it, I mean you'll find it eventually. But if you're trying to bang them out like that, I would prefer going to pay somebody and doing it because they already know what they're doing and they know all the good stuff for it.

SPEAKER_00 37:49

Yeah. My buddy Pat Parks is in here. So welcome, Pat. This here is this young man here sitting next to me, is uh Devin Moore. He's out of Louisa, Kentucky. I met him uh in a mud park, and he opened you were well, you were the opener for all the bands that night. And he was just a little solo artist, young, young kid. And matter of fact, you know what I got sitting right here. What I still I still got what you gave me, brother. I got it right here. I can see it every day. You gave me he gave me a koozie with his QR code on one side and his your your uh your emblem that now what was the emblem on there again? What was the story behind that again? You told me, and I I've since forgotten.

SPEAKER_05 38:39

So it was I used to wrestle, so one night after a wrestling practice, me and my buddy we went out to his house and we smoked a little bit. And I was like, I need an emblem emblem, man, like something like how these artists are doing it nowadays, like something that's like art-wise, it's not just a picture. And he drew up a little little thing, and I was like, hmm, something could work there. So I started drawing it up, and then I gave it to this kid at my school, because that's when I was a I was a I was a senior at that time, and he was good at like drawing stuff out. His name is Ford Skaggs, and uh we uh he drawed it out and brought it to me, and I was like, I love that man, and I started using it.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Yeah, it turned out nice. And I still thank you again for the hospitality of giving me one of your koozies because you didn't have to, but that was nice of you to do it.

SPEAKER_05 39:28

Well, you're probably one of the coolest guys there, and I was like, Hey, I like this guy.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Yeah, we had fun. We had fun. It was neat watching you warm up and all that stuff, and hell, I was so green and so new to all this stuff. Well, hell, I still am. I'm still learning all the time. I mean, I'm blessed for everybody that's given me stuff. I mean, you know, one lady that um sadly passed away. Um, and I guess matter of fact, I'm bringing her up. We could take a moment of silence for her. Her name was Nancy Cassidy, and she was actually out of Indiana. I I cannot remember where. Spencer County, no, Spencer County, Indiana. It almost sounds right. But anyway, Miss Nancy Cassidy, she's got a daughter. Her name's Tammy, and they're they're both in the music industry. They have been. Nancy was in it for uh quite a long time. She knew quite a few people, but she was a really she was a really special lady. You know, I she always took time to talk to some dumbass like me that was that had no clue about nothing. And I would call and ask questions, and she was one of the few people that would actually try to help me out and for nothing. I mean, she was very an an unselfish lady. And um, I woke up what was it today? It was either today or yesterday, and I didn't even know she had passed. And I had talked to her not too long before, I mean, it'd probably been maybe a month ago, and uh damn, I woke up and saw that she had passed away, and I was like, fuck man, and because such a such a great lady, and she had so much knowledge. Um, and her daughter Tammy, super, super sweet lady, very, very talented in her rights too. And so I posted something, but uh definitely have to give a moment of silence for Miss Nancy because she uh she definitely was very special to me for somebody who was you know trying to learn this in crazy industry and to have somebody give you some pointers and not ask for anything in return is is is kind of hard to find these days. So much love and respect to Miss Nancy Cassidy for everybody who knows her. But um, but anyway, you know, it's uh it was so good to it's so good to see you again, too, man. Because I've I I know you probably thought I forgot about you because I hadn't. I tell you what, my mind, I got so much shit going on all the time that my I can't keep I can't keep nothing straight. So when I had low down revival, I was like, man, I really want to do a show. And I was like, I know who to call. I should have called a long god dang time ago. Well, I did, and I told you we're gonna do it, and then was like, all right, we'll do it. And it's like, eh, you know, we just kept going back and forth. But I'm so glad that you jumped in today, man. I really am because it's good to see you. It's been a little while. Thank you for giving me this opportunity.

SPEAKER_05 42:23

Uh, but yeah, I I fall on that same aspect. I should be talking to people more than I do. He's like people that can connect me to people, but you know, sometimes you just get so far ahead of yourself that you can't really, you know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:36

And it is hard, man. But networking is so fucking important. So, you know, and the good thing is now though, now you've got a band, so now you're gonna have networking also become a little easier because not only do you have you that can network, you've got the four other guys that can do the same thing. Like so they they can really help that that process out.

SPEAKER_05 42:58

I lead guitarist today. He found uh he found a place for us to sing, guys that gig there, and I was like, hell yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

No shit. Already.

SPEAKER_05 43:05

Already.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Do you know the name of it or do you do you not know it off the top of your head? I was gonna say because if you want to plug it, plug it, you know.

SPEAKER_05 43:12

I don't know it off the top of my head. I'll have to get the name.

SPEAKER_00 43:15

I have to ask him. Well, that's okay. But yeah, but dude, that's that's pretty awesome that you've already you've already started with a gig. And you just you just got the band going, so that's good.

SPEAKER_05 43:28

It helps us out a little bit more that people got to know me through these years and they know that I'm with the band now and they understand that I'm a good singer, so they're trusting me with the band. That's also it also kind of puts a little stress on you because you're like, I gotta be good for these people because they already expect me to be good.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

So Yeah, oh yeah. Especially hometown people. You know.

SPEAKER_05 43:49

Also learned the keys. I'm starting to play piano now.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

No shit. Are you really? Yep. When did you start that process?

SPEAKER_05 43:56

About a month ago.

SPEAKER_00 43:58

No shit. Well, congratulations. Now are you you uh are you trying to do the whole are you sm are you musically inclined enough that you can do self-taught or are you actually taking lessons for the piano?

SPEAKER_05 44:11

I'm enough musically inclined that I can do it myself. Like just a couple YouTube videos, a couple chords, I can get it. That's with any instrument though. I'm pretty good with that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

See, that's that just blows me away, dude. I wish I had that kind of talent because I don't. You know, I could pick up a guitar and be like, and just it would sound like you're beating a bag full of cats, you know, if I played shit, because I wouldn't know what sounds good and what doesn't.

SPEAKER_05 44:39

To the point where I'm like starting to write songs on it, so I can, you know, give it that little little different thing. Oh, yeah. Also, my lead guitarist, he plays the saxophone. It was kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

It's kind of dude. That I tell you what, man, I I dig it. Like the only person that I know that that does it is Dunham, who is who plays for Jesse Keith Whitley. And I tell you what, dude, the saxophone, I love how Jesse incorporated that into his his music. I love it because I think the saxophone is it's so fun and it's you don't hear it as much. So it's so original, it's so it adds a really unique flavor to things.

SPEAKER_05 45:21

That's one instrument I don't think I would ever be able to figure out completely because it's just so technical, and you just gotta I don't know, you gotta have good lungs for it, right? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:32

Yeah, you gotta have a good set of pipes, that's for sure. But yeah, you know, I'd even like to eventually have a band that had I love the banjo. I love it.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

You know, we actually had somebody that wanted to play banjo for us, and I was like, I really don't know if it'd fit in because we don't really play that kind of country.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:53

I don't know. I'm into Southern Rock, that's me. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

Oh hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:58

My my inspiration where I got my inspiration from with music was like Leonard Skinner and stuff, so you know, like all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 46:07

It's just that's the that's the good shit. Well, the all the old stuff too.

SPEAKER_05 46:12

Kid rock and stuff. I love that stuff, man.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

Yeah. And I had a couple blues guys, you know, it's funny you say you some of your guys are into blues. It's like it to it seems to me that blues are are actually starting to even grow in popularity even more than what they have been. It seems like there's an uptick to me anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:29

Um like it was flat for a while there, but now it's starting to raise up.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

See, I think so too. And I had people on, like I've had Tumblr on, which I don't know if you know who he is, but Tumblr is uh uh yeah, that guy's got he's got one hell of a blues voice, and so does Mike Clacy. And um, I had him on the other day. He's out of uh uh Washington, so he's on the other side of the earth. But but I tell you what, man, both of those dudes, they got such cool, just that that gritty, bluesy voice, and I don't man, there's something about that that's just so appealing, man. That bluesiness is I love it. It's just fucking good, man. It's really good. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, it could hit you right in the heart, absolutely. So that's uh I'm glad to see that. And hell, you never know, man. With you guys, you got some of the guys like that, and you're doing the southern rock, you all could you you you'll probably have some songs that that'll be more on the bluesy side, which which I think is cool as fuck.

SPEAKER_05 47:33

It's cool how they come together, those songs do, because I mean we'll just be sitting there and you know, we're we're starting to add time up too, like we're doing covers and stuff, but we're adding our originals in, and like me and my lead guitarists will go to the studio one day and just you know, write some stuff down, figure some stuff out, talk about what we're seeing in this vision, because everybody got their own vision. Everybody seems I'm just making sure everybody's on the same track with me, trying to trying to hit that big stage.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

Oh yeah, well, and I think you will. You just gotta do you gotta pay your you gotta pay your dues and eat a little crow. And everybody's got to. And I think you'll be just y'all will be just fine. Now your your piano you got, I saw it's it's like digital. So when you write songs and stuff, so I guess this piano or keyboard that you have, excuse me, pardon me. I guess this keyboard has the ability for you to save multiple tracks, like if you're working on something, you can save it in your in your thing and then work on it, or how does that work?

SPEAKER_05 48:38

It's a little older, it's an older piano. My bass has had it, and I was like, give me a thing, I'm I'm gonna try it. Because I was trying to get my rhythm guitars to do it because I didn't want to play and sing, but you know, I realized that I got that talent, so might as well show it.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

So right.

SPEAKER_05 48:52

I took it and there isn't no recording thing on it, it's gonna keep playing the melody on it, which I can remember it pretty well.

SPEAKER_00 48:59

See, that's what's where that's where you you you being that uh talented enough. Let me you're talented enough where you uh can hear that shit and play it.

SPEAKER_05 49:11

That's that's just fucking and I've also came to the realization that it would be easier for me to just play it and sing it for the band than it would for me to put it on an audio recording and play it for like one time around and then let it come through because we get behind. We need that leverage to be able to catch back up to each other and stay on the same stuff. Because that's that's the that's the matter of it. It's you can mess up, but you got to know how to come back. You can't just quit.

SPEAKER_00 49:40

Now you said that your band, you know, one guy that you met, you you were at a party, so you obviously knew him. Now, did did you know all of these guys that are now key players in your band, or did you have to get introduced from say one said guy?

SPEAKER_05 49:56

Just my my one person in, he uh introduced me to the bass player, and then we all I became friends with him pretty quick because you know I'm an open guy, I'll I'll talk to anybody, I'll give anybody a chance. And uh he was pretty cool, so we stuck with him and uh that first guitarist, I knew him from personal experiences, and I was like, he's pretty good. Let's give him a shot because we ain't got nobody else right now. And that that worked out that way, and then it ended. And then my rhythm guitarist, which was my drummer at the time, he uh found another guy. He's a he was an older guy, he's probably about in his forties. And um he was good, he was really good, but we just had a falling out, and I was like, man, I was like, this is this is what breaks the band up, so I was like, I can't have that. And then we were sitting there and we was like, dang, we really need somebody for lead because you know, lead's a big part in music. And his uh my bassist Nana was uh looking around because she's a s she helps us out a lot. And she found this one guy and his his son's like 18, 17, and that's our lead guitarist now. And we we kind of hit it off first time because we had him come out there for an audition, just let him just try it out, and it worked out really good. He picked up on everything really quick. And then we uh got to his studio eventually, and they're the drummer, he brought the drummer out because it him and the drummer were buddies, and I heard the drummer play, and I was like, that's what we need. I tell my ex-drummer, which is now my rhythm guitarist, I was like, we need him. I was like, I love you playing drums, and I really appreciate you trying and doing what you did because it got us through what we need to get through. But that guy knows technical stuff and it just worked out better, and now we're all just hitting off each other.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

That's just awesome though, though, that he was he was playing the one thing and then all but it's like all right, we need to change, but he's still okay. Why? Because he's talented enough that he could play other instruments, so it's like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:03

That's why people always made a joke about that.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

He said, I'm gonna be hopping on every instrument in the on the you're gonna be like Dave Grohl, you know, when he fucking when he started Foo, you know, because I don't know if you know that about Dave Grohl, but uh, but apparently I was watching a video with him talking because he was making fun of how the Foo Fighter name is probably one of the worst band names ever. And uh, which I don't do, I don't agree with him, but that's what he said. But but apparently he was like, the reason that he went with that was because you know, after Nirvana and all that stuff, he wanted to do something, but he didn't have anything set up yet. So he recorded every instrument and of course sang. He did everything for that album, and he called it Foo Fighters to make it seem like they had a complete band, like it was a group of people, and it was something that he found off some sci-fi, I guess, graphic novel or something over the you know, over the years, and uh, and hence that's pretty much how it came. But I thought it was pretty interesting. It's like, damn, dude, when you're so talented that you literally you played the guitar licks, you played the lead licks, the rhythm licks, you did the you know, the bass licks, the drum licks, you sang. It's like it's like it's like a virtuoso, you know.

SPEAKER_05 53:23

It's really it's really cool on looking back on like how where we started at and where we are now, because it's almost like it's God's plan, you know what I mean? It's like every storybook, and it's just coming up to this one big thing, and it's really it's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 53:37

I would love to have seen the progress you know progression of it, of you once you started with the band. I'm so I was so excited, man. I was blown away to hear that, but I'm really excited for you because I think that's gonna be so good for you. I think it's gonna be it's gonna make things so much more enjoyable. It's just gonna be a good time, I think.

SPEAKER_05 53:57

And it really gives me like space on the stage to like entertain, because you know, when you're singing, you're not just singing, you're entertaining, you're like a show, you know. They they want to watch it and have fun with you, they want to experience that fun with you, and you can make that more possible when you don't got an instrument in your hand. You can walk around and jump down and talk to people and like hug them and stuff, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

I went, I just went uh let's see, well, what what day was that? It was Thursday, last Thursday. I went to um with my cousins, they wanted me to go to Lexington to uh have you been to the Manchester music hall yet?

SPEAKER_05 54:37

I've heard about it.

SPEAKER_00 54:38

I'm almost dude, it's a nice fucking place, bro. It's nice, and they they have an inside hall. It's it's what they had at that's where they had the after party, and uh, I mean it's a it looked like a pretty good sized venue in and of itself. I mean, it looked like it it was at least a 700 cap venue, it looked to me like, but we saw Warren Zeiters, but we saw Warren, they actually had out outside is where they had the stage set up and they had him at. And um yeah, I see what you mean by because he plays the guitar like you, but he can he also did a lot where he put it down and just sang, and he was all over the stage, so they had the smoke going, he was moving around. Because you know, that's the only the only thing I ever complained about with country music back in the day was I love country music, and if you if you're having a bad day or you're you're having if something's going on in your life, there is a fucking story that is already written about what you're going through. That's what's cool about country music. But the thing that sucks about country music, and and it seems like a lot of these new artists are definitely changing that, but it's like yes, you stood there in front of the microphone and you played your guitar or whatever, and you sang into your mic and you didn't hardly move, or you sat on a chair, stools, and you sang into a mic and you didn't move, and that's okay if you're doing like an unplug or something like that, then I get it. But every show it's like, dude, you want to see people moving around. I and I think that's why for me, I think rock was more my speed. Why? Because it's so much faster paced and there's so much going on.

SPEAKER_05 56:24

It's just so hard to like if you're doing it like with a three-piece and you're singing and holding the rhythm with your guitar, it's so hard to be able to get that time to grab the microphone and yeah, you know, interact with people and stuff. Usually you gotta do it after the show, which I made that that was something I made sure I did. Like when I opened up for Colt Ford, uh after I got done singing, you know, I put my guitar away, walked out to the crowd, you know, went to the bathroom and stuff, got some popcorn. Like just talk to people and took pictures and it opened up opportunities for me that I didn't know it opened up.

SPEAKER_00 56:58

Oh yeah. And you're good at that because you're very friendly, you're very outgoing, you're not shy, and uh that's gonna work to your favor, you know. And uh, but I didn't know you opened for Colt Ford, so that's fucking cool. Congratulations on that, bro.

SPEAKER_05 57:14

Paramount Nashland, Ashland, Kentucky.

SPEAKER_00 57:17

Say say it again, you broke you broke up there at the beginning.

SPEAKER_05 57:20

I said it was down there in uh Ashland, Kentucky, at the Paramount.

SPEAKER_00 57:23

Oh no shit. When did now when was that? I don't how the hell did I miss that, but I did.

SPEAKER_05 57:29

I I want to say it was probably about maybe like seven months ago.

SPEAKER_00 57:34

No shit. Well, that's fucking cool as fuck, dude. Well, congratulations on that, bro. Well, how how long of a set did they give you?

SPEAKER_05 57:43

It was like an hour or two.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

No shit. So they didn't skimp you. That's fucking awesome, dude. And they pay that's really fucking good.

SPEAKER_05 57:51

Yeah, they pay me for it too. I was appreciative of that.

SPEAKER_00 57:54

Oh, hell yeah. And I bet the pay was pretty good on that because I mean Colt, Colt is definitely uh that's not a shabby name. Colt Ford is he knows what the fuck he's doing.

SPEAKER_05 58:06

I got to meet him and talked to him. A lot of people think that he's like a an an asshole or something, you know what I mean? Like nice, but he's a really cool guy. He's cool to me at least.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

Yeah, well, you know, sometimes people just have bad days. Yeah. So sometimes you you may run across somebody and be like, man, they were kind of a prick, but you don't know what the fuck's going on. Maybe they had a shit day, maybe some, you know, who knows? I mean, so maybe somebody they cared about passed, or you know, they had an animal they love die, or or they just, you know, just had a just not feeling it that day, or not feeling well. I mean, there's so many things.

SPEAKER_05 58:44

So very cool experience at that concert. I uh wrote a song because my ex-girlfriend, she her mom passed, and I wrote that song, like, you know, talking about like how people pass and stuff and how hard it is. And there was this person in the crowd, uh, this I think it was uh husband and wife, and he had like cancer or something. And I sung that song, he started crying. And when I got off stage, he was crying, and he hugged me and stuff and told me that that was the best song he's ever heard. And I was like, that's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_00 59:11

Dude, that's fucking cool.

SPEAKER_05 59:13

That's what I think for, though. You do that for this, those experiences too. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:17

Well, and uh, what's cool about that is it goes both ways. So you touched him with your song, like you that song did something to that guy, and it meant the world to him, but also his comment paid it forward back to you because it's like, man, to have somebody say that's one of the best songs I've ever heard, and it's written by an up-and-coming lad out of Louisa, Kentucky. It's like, fuck yeah, dude, that's badass, man. So congratulations on that, too. That's cool, that's really cool. Thank you. Now, when you uh when you were doing your set, do you did you do like like 50-50 did do originals and do covers, or how did that how did that work for you?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:02

Try to split it up like if you got like you know, if you got like 20 originals, you can pretty you can split it up pretty good, but if you got like six, which at the time that's what I have, like six or seven, you really think about it before you go to the show because it's like you gotta have to play like maybe three or four covers and like add an original and a fifth one, and doing that, just keep doing that because I mean you can play originals all day long, but people really want to hear covers. That's that's what really gets you out there. But you slide your originals in there and that makes room for you.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:35

So people and well, and I tell you, dude, it when I went to Warren Ziders, I this was an interesting thing. They had a I forget his name, it's Cody Cody Fusion. No, no, not him. Um, I do like Cody Fusen, though. Um it was the this this this lad was out of Texas. He got put, I don't know if he was with Warren Ziders for this whole world tour. I don't know if he was gonna be on every show or not, or if he just happened to be in Lexington. But anyway, the uh the guy played, he had a he had a fun band. He was they were a good band, they were good. But I thought it was it was really cool. One thing they did that I thought was interesting that you don't see very much of, but it was kind of brilliant, I think. Um, you know, obviously in Kentucky from Texas, there may be a lot of people. Some people knew his stuff, but there may have been a lot of people that didn't know who the hell they were. So you could kind of tell, like, sometimes the crowd would, you know, they'd some people would start to not maybe not pay attention and stuff. And what well, what they did was was really fucking genius because the guy was like, he started talking about how he was from a small town, and uh oh, Wolf Fair is finally in here. What's up, Wolf? Um, she said, What's up, Devin? By the way. Um, she also has a podcast as well. Uh, she's one of them that she well, she was gonna be on here with me, but she was she was still working, so she couldn't. But um, we kind of feed off each other again. It's uh it comes down to the whole networking thing. I'm new at podcasting, she's got a little more experience, obviously, than I do, but she but still it's like she feeds off my numbers, I feed off hers. But anyway, I'll get back to what I was saying before. Um, but he started talking about the small town he was from, and he's from a super small town in Texas, so he I think he said if like population was like 38 fucking people, so he's like making a joke, like he's like, pretty much I can look through here and see my entire my entire town, you know, of people, because 38 people is not much, but his favorite TV show was King of the Hill, and he was talking about well, he started talking about King of the Hill, and it's amazing about the people that you the people you could tell that didn't know who he was, who started to maybe drift or talk to somebody else. All of a sudden they were looking back at him and they're like, Did he say King of the Hill? And then all they did was play the intro. They didn't sing, they just played the intro. They come out and did the intro to King of the Hill and they crushed it. And fuck, it totally changed the didactic of that crowd. So, and it it like made them focus on these guys that aren't from around here, so they they haven't been seen that much. So I thought it was a brilliant move. I was like, damn, dude, what a way to turn people who don't know you but grab their attention and hook. And it was something as simple as a what 20, 30 second intro to a TV show that a lot of people knew, and it worked. It worked like brilliantly. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:45

That's a that's a really good idea. I seen I seen Warren Ziders, but I don't know if it was the same person that opened up for him that you saw. I don't remember his name exactly, but he was a good guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

Yeah, I wish I could remember that this guy was uh I mean he was a he was a strapping lad. Like he wasn't no little bitty dude. He wasn't fat, but I mean he was a big, he was just a big old boy. He like he was a big tall boy, he looked tall. Yeah, but uh, but and they were good. They were a really good band. I didn't know who they were, but they were good.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:15

They they were pretty good, whoever I saw. I don't know if it was the same person you saw, but it was then how long was that ago you'd say?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:22

I went uh last Thursday.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:24

Last Thursday?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:25

Yeah. I can't remember if I don't know if it's because I went I don't eat I don't even know where I would I don't even know where I would even find that uh who opened, but uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:39

I went but yeah I went and see Marshall Tucker band and uh Oh I bet that was fun. Alabama, they're really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:46

Yeah, I bet that was fucking fun, man. Marshall Tucker? Fuck yeah, dude. That would have been cool as fuck. Me and mom went. Did you? That's cool. Well, I saw drop kicks in I've seen them three times so far this year, and uh we actually went, I did my bucket list checklist for them. I actually we flew to Boston and uh watched them in their hometown, and that was that's what I've been waiting and waiting and waiting because that's they're one of my favorite, but they're an Irish punk band, if you don't know who they are. So they're definitely it's a different genre of music, it's much, much faster. And I can tell that I'm getting older because being in the pit down there in in in in a lot of those shows, like I was in the pits, I didn't do it in Boston. We actually we actually upgraded our seats and actually went, it was the first time I ever went on the rail, so like the second tier rail, and they had these cush seats that you sat in. You could sit right on the rail, you had your own fucking waitress. Your bathroom lines were much cleaner and much nicer because you weren't sharing them with a whole bunch of people and you had a private bar. I was like, dude, this is this is the way my old ass needs to start watching shows, but being in the pits, uh You know, now being in the pits for Warren Ziders was completely different. So I told my cousins, I said it's kind of comical that uh you know, I've been on pits like I'm standing there waiting for like a fucking foot to come by from somebody crowd surfing, or you know, you you get in the mosh pit and you start feeling all the pressure of people pushing and and all that crap, and then you go to a country show, and I'm like, We're gonna be in the pits. And I was just sitting there thinking to myself, I've never been to a pits in a country show, and it was completely different. It was just like people didn't push, there was no crowd servers. There was a lot of women, though. I will say this Warren Zyder's. I don't judge dudes, but he's a good looking mofo, and he had more fucking bras. I there was bras, there was shit. One of them hit him while he singing, and he like fucking keeps going and hangs it on his guitarist fucking neck of his guitar while he's jamming. And but I mean, there was one lady, I swear to god, she had some hella boaters apparently, because when she threw her bra, it looked like I thought it was some guy parasailing in. I thought it was like it was like a sideshow. I was like, what the fuck was that that came by our head? It was huge, but it was hilarious, it was hilarious. But but a completely different, like come it's just completely different being on the rail in a country show than it was on you know in a punk show.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:21

I went in solid, but I was hearing guys yell take off a shirt. I was like, I don't want to see him take off a shirt now. I was like, I ain't all that, but you know, if they're oh yeah, there was some dude there yelling.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:30

One guy he goes, take your pants off. And I was like, don't. I was oh my god, and of course he does, you know he's going to. I mean, the guy's jacked, man. He's like he's like a Greek god. It's like you, you know. I look at him, I'm like, and he said he was telling other guys, he goes, Man, some of you other guys in the crowd ought to take your shirt off too. I was like, fuck, if I took my shirt off, people would probably die, they'd probably laugh, die of laughter. You know, I'm like, I'm like, I don't look like you, buddy. If you weren't around, then maybe I'd take my shirt off. But when I got if I'm in comparison with that, it's like, no, thank you. I'm I cannot win. But he's jacked and young, obviously.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:13

I'm currently in my workout stage because I've realized that if you're single stage, you kind of gotta, you know, it'd be nice if you had a six-pack show off, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:21

Well, I'll tell you what, brother, sex sells, it does, does, and even in what I mean by that is not even just like the act of sex, I'm just talking about just sexuality, period. The women and women, god dang, dude. I tell you what, at that show, I was blown away. I was like, damn, dude, they are the horniest bunch of women out here I've ever seen in my life. Like they were begging him to take his shirt off, and they were just fucking going when they did. Oh my god, the screams. I bet they heard I bet the astronauts heard it as they were going around the dark side of the fucking moon. They probably heard the screams from them ladies when he did take his shirt off. And I was just like, and of course, my cousins I was there with were they're all my second cousins, so they're the children of my cousins, yeah. And why they wanted to hang out with the boner, I don't know. But they they were like, they were like, Bones, we want you, we would love for you to go to the show with us. And I'm sitting there thinking, I y'all want to hang out with me? I'm like 52. They're like, We love you, man. Let's do it. And I was like, Well, fuck it, man. Y'all want me to go? I'll go. I was like, fuck yeah, I'll go watch. I don't know who Warren Ziders is. Well, it'd come to find out I knew I did. I mean, I think I knew his music. I think I knew like four songs, yeah. So I knew more than I thought I did. But um, when he, you know, when they first said Warren Ziders, I go, I don't, I don't know who you're talking about. What uh stadium? It was uh it was at that Manchester music hall, so it was out in the parking lot. I well, I'm assuming it would have been a parking lot, I don't know, but it was uh they had a they had the stage built outside right next to well, they had all these fucking buses. There was like six buses, and then they had the stage, but then after after that was done, then with the VIP people, we got to go to an after party. So you went in, and that's where we went into the actual Manchester music hall, which is I think where I've put in for like James Lucre and stuff to play. And um, it was a I it's a killer place on the inside too. Like you walk in, you had the bathrooms right here, you had a bar on one side, you had a bar on the other side, and then the the the right hand side was just open all the way to the stage. And they had they had this DJ, and then DJ was fun too, because the DJ they had at this show was the guy actually played the it's uh oddly enough, he played this, he played, I don't know if it was it wasn't a saxophone, it was a um I guess um I guess it was a trumpet. But he would get on there and play, he would play to certain songs too. So that was kind of that was neat and different, you know. Most of the time you think of DJs, they just spin the records and do some talking, and that's really about it. This guy would actually he actually would play with some of his songs. So I thought it was kind of a neat change.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:12

What kind of stage do you have? Was it like a U-shape?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:15

No, this stage that they had out there was uh well it was just a regular stage with the with the um with the with the roof over top of it, and then they had a small walkout stage um that uh Warren could walk out on. It was like a rectangular thing that stuck out right in front, and then they had a rail that went from the middle of that stage, and one side of it was of the rail on one side was I guess general admission pit, and then the other side of that fence on the the stage rail was the VIP side. So VIP went and you had a tent you could go out to, and then of course the GM people just had they had all the different stuff they could mill around and see, and beers, and beers actually were actually cheaper than what I thought they were gonna be. It was probably one of the cheapest beers I've seen in a while, which isn't saying much because it was still eight dollars a beer, but still eight dollars a beer for like I I got a PBR uh because I loved every I like the old beer sometimes, so I got a PBR, it was like a double deuce for like eight bucks, and you know, you go to anywhere in Louisville, you go to you go for a beer, and I mean hell, even in fucking Nashville. When we went to Nashville, um we it was what two long necks, two long necks, and the tip was 20 bucks. Like it was 19 bucks for two long necks and in a dollar tip. It was twenty dollars every time you went to the fucking bar, and I'm like, God dang. I was like, how do people afford that shit? And why would you? It's like I can go I can run up to the fucking store and buy a damn 20 pack for 27 dollars or a 30 pack, excuse me, and for 27 bucks I could drink all damn day.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:05

It's like pregame before the show, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:07

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. That's that's way better to do anyway, I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:13

Uh I seen him in uh where was I at? I think I was in Charleston. That's where I went and saw him at Charleston.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:20

Oh, really? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:22

And he had a stage, it was like it was like a U. And uh he would had like two stairs coming down both sides. It was really cool how he had it set up.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:31

Oh, that's kind of neat.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:33

I think it's crazy how he has like a different stage for like a different place. Like for there it worked for that place. For whenever you went and saw him, he had a different kind of stage. It I think that's pretty neat.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:43

That is kind of neat, and I don't know if that's by design or just happens chance. I don't know, I don't know much about it, but but I do know one thing. I didn't know who really, I mean, I I didn't know who sang some of the songs that who he was, but once I saw him, I mean Warren Ziders did put on a he did put on a good show, and and you're right, man. Keep working on your physique because that's the dude. The fucking ladies love that shit, dude. They eat that shit up, and you're still young, so you got that baby face still, you still got uh everything going in your direction. So take advantage of it for sure. Oh, you damn you did cut a lot of it. What so what was so why what prompted you to fucking chop that shit down, bro?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:27

I was going through some relationship problems. I was like, you know, hair holds memories because it does, it really does. And I got rid of it and I was like, I kind of like this more because it like shows off my face, and I still got a young face, so it's all tightened, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:42

And you still got a little bit. I mean, you got you know, it's it's right down at your shoulder. So it's not you didn't you didn't lop it off. It ain't like you went, you know, full metal jacket and fucking sh shaved that shit down to the skin. So and that's and that's cool though. And it's cool that you do stuff too with your mom. And I'm glad to hear your mom's doing good. I'm glad to hear that she's even doing TikTok shit. I'll have to look for her on TikTok because I I didn't know she was doing that shit either.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:14

I'll share it to you so you can find it.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:16

Yeah, please do, because I I'll I'll give her a follow and stuff. Because yeah, I bet she I bet she's really in enjoying that. And I didn't know your mom sang.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:25

You know, I didn't know either, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:28

No shit, really.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:34

Because that dad don't hit it. Dad don't hit it too well.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:38

Yeah, well, I'm writing your dad's wheelhouse. I don't hit it, I don't think I'd hit it very well either. That's not my niche. My niche, uh maybe I have a niche of something else. I don't know what. And I don't know, maybe it's podcasting, I don't know. But Pam, she pushed me to do podcasting and and uh helped me with the cool fucking logo and the name and all that other shit. So I'm kind of glad she did because I mean I am enjoying it, and it's allowing me to kind of meet meet new artists and talk to them and and uh hopefully I do a good job. Like I say, this week I was a little bit uh I didn't do like what I normally do, but I think I'm again I'm in that uh mindset of this colonoscopy I get to go through Thursday and this prep tomorrow. I think my mind was just like not really wanting to do any pot. I didn't want to do shit this week because I'm just every time I gotta have these things, and it's not a big deal, but I'm just like uh I just fucking hate it, man. I get that. Yeah, it sucks. I love that old school G and R fucking shirt you got on, though.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:48

Mom found it for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:49

She buys everything. Did she? That's an old school one, man. I I haven't had one of them since that that shirt I had back in fucking high school. I don't even know what happened to it now. Now the only one I got to see for the appetite of destruction, the the album cover of that. I've got still got that shirt that I wear from time to time.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:08

I tell you what, mom's she's a talented woman. She she made them coozies and shirts. I mean, she she doing good on TikTok. She she impresses me, honestly, the way she does stuff because she just gets it done and you know it works out for her somehow.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:21

That's fucking good, man. Dad, is your mom still is she still kind of helping you with the music thing, or is she kind of now backing off on that now, especially now that you got a band?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:29

She she still wants to be a part of it. She's scared about me traveling off to go other places, but I told her I was like, it's gotta happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:37

It's gotta well, and I can understand that, bro, because I tell you, man, it's I think it's easier for the dads than it is for the moms, but nobody wants to see their kids fucking leave. You know, you wanna you wanna spend as much time with them as you can because life is so short and precious. But on the same token, everybody does understand that the the reality of the situation is that you it's gonna happen. You gotta you gotta let them go, yeah. I mean, like be their own person.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:08

Life is short for me too. I that's why I gotta go out there and do it now.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:13

Yeah, but you never know, man. No one knows there's no guarantees of anything anymore for sure, but certainly there ain't no guarantees of tomorrow. So it's like take advantage of every fucking thing you can do, you know, and what you're doing's fucking cool, man, because you're doing you got a great voice, you're super talented, and you're bringing music, which you know, I'm sure that not everybody loves music, but for the most part, music soothes the soul, man. People love it, like it is the best. To me, it's the best medicine you can have, is just listening to some music. I mean, it always helps, it does. Hell yeah, I think so too.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:53

But it's good to know that somebody else is going through the same thing you're going through.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:57

Yeah, and that's what's beautiful about songs like that is you can write a song about how you're feeling, and because you're talented enough to write it, other people are gonna that are going through a similar situation that maybe aren't that talented to put words to paper are gonna be they'll gravitate to that song and be like, damn, that's that it's like that song is literally speaking to me. So, which is fucking cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:23

And as an artist, that's what you that's what you kind of strive for. You strive for somebody to feel that.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:28

Yeah, hell yeah. Hell yeah. But yeah, man, I'm yeah, definitely send me the link to your mom's stuff too, because I'm your mom, she was a super sweet lady. I was it was very nice meeting her, and it was very nice meeting you.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:41

She loves you, she she always talks about you.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:44

Does she? She's so sweet. Yeah, she was man. It I I had a good time. It it sucked that I didn't get to spend more time with you during that show, but you know, we had everything going on, plus you had to leave to go to that rodeo too, so you had to do your show and then pretty much pack up your toys and go home. And that that kind of sucked. But but the cool thing is that we've we've stayed, I mean, we've stayed in contact ever since, yeah, which is really cool. Even you know, even like Kate Sparks, you know, she wouldn't uh which she was Kate Fitch then, but um, but even her, like her and I still talk. We like I keep up with her and and again, you know, people like Courtney Joe, which you I don't think you've met Court. Have you met Courtney Joe yet? No. Well, you might you might eventually meet her, especially if have you have you done anything at the uh Hillsboro, Ohio at the uh Patriot Public House yet?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:39

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:40

Okay, well, maybe that'll change too, because I had even mentioned, I think I mentioned you even to Angel Moots, who owns it, um, the other day, because I'd mentioned James doing stuff. You, um, a guy named Mark Hare that we had on a podcast. He's he was kind of like you, solo, just a solo. He still is, he's still a solo artist, but he does he does a lot of that shit where I think he's from Pennsylvania, so he'll go out and just go to a street corner and pull his guitar out and stand there and sing, and people throw change to him and shit like that. He's still in that in that phase, you know. And that's the hard phase, but but there's also some there's something cool about those phases, though, too, because they they kind of grow and build you. It builds your character. I do agree with that. But with you, I'm glad to see you finally you're kindly finally going to the band aspect. That was that was really cool news to hear. So I really wish you all the very best when it comes to that. Because and I look forward to see what you all come up with. Yeah, I'm I really look forward to it.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:51

I'm very excited for it. It's uh well, I mean, we're just starting off and we're already having like you know, some success with it. So that's great. That's perfect.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:59

And that is great. Yeah, I mean, hell, you just got these guys and you've already you've already got a gig lined up and shit. I've that that's that's fucking be proud of that shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:09

That's really good. Working and getting everybody ready.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:12

Yeah. That and then you know, you get you're you're eventually gonna have to start, which I don't know, some people may disagree with me, but I think you're definitely gonna have to start working more on social media platforms too, you know, like getting getting your Facebook up, getting, you know, your obviously your TikToks you probably hammer pretty hard. You sound like you hammer like what James does, but it would be good, you know, definitely good to get yourself on quite a few different platforms where people can start seeing you because that's even a lot that I need to start posting on everything because you know it's easy to post on stuff.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:49

I mean you could post the same video on any platform.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:52

Yeah. But you know, it is rough too. I mean, because if you really want to be successful with it, they you know, they they definitely want you posting shit and being pretty much every day at least something. Well, you know, sometimes that's hard to do. I mean, it's sometimes sometimes it is. Sometimes you're just like scratching your head going, but what am I gonna what am I gonna say today?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:16

That's yeah, that's the hard part about it figuring out where you're wanting to go with the video and because it can't be everywhere, because if it's everywhere, nobody's gonna watch it because it's I don't know. But people have one track a lot of people have one track minds and that you need to come to their level at that point in time because if not, then they're just gonna leave the video and not watch it.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:38

Yeah, yeah. And you know, the what was it? Somebody was we were talking about this the other day. Well, we were talking about um like times. You know, some people say because you know, I've had people make fun of me because I do some of my podcasts, I'll do at 10 in the morning, and they're like, why the hell would you do that? And I was like, Because I fucking want to. Because I'm old and I don't give a fuck. I don't I'm not I'm not trying to become like rich soup filthy rich. I mean, if it happens, I'd be awesome, but I doubt it. So it's like I I'm retired, I do what the fuck I want. If I want to do it at 10, I'll do it at 10. If I want to do it at noon, I'll do it at noon. And they're like, you know, well, it's better, it's better for your reach and algorithm and all that other shit if you release it at one time. But I don't know how much of that I believe because if everybody is going live like we did tonight at 8, well, then you're competing with every fucking podcast that's going live at 8. But not every podcast goes live at say 10 in the morning.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:47

Yeah, you're you're competing with 50,000 people right now, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:51

Yeah, exactly. And then of course, you know, if you do it in the morning, sometimes too, you also gotta think, what's your clientele like, too? Because sometimes your clientele, they may be they may be up and running at 10 in the morning. That may be their prime time to them. Yeah, you know, like I've got one lady, I don't know what time it is over there, I have no clue without without asking Chad GPT, she'd tell me. But it's like I've got one lady from Germany, she don't speak any English at all, but we communicate every fucking day. She's a fan, and every day she sends me messages, and she's already she translates her shit out for me, so I don't have to, and I just type in English because I don't know how she translates, but she'll translate it so she can read what I say, and it would be cool to meet her because she's I think she said she's I don't know, she's in her 80s or so, and uh, but so such a sweet lady that lives in Germany, but yet, you know, I'm like, well, you know, for somebody like her, maybe the 10 o'clock in the morning might be like eight o'clock at night for her. Yeah, I don't, I don't know, you know, so I think I don't know how much validity I really put into the fact that there are certain times and you have to hit those marks to get the best results. Because I just I just don't buy it.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:14

I think it's really just depending on your luck and uh what you're talking about and what subject you're on and stuff. It's just right. If they if people can relate to you, they're gonna like you. That's that's how it is in the world.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:30

I think so too. I agree with that 110%. I think if people it just it just all depends on if you're likable or not, and it depends on what you're talking about too.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:41

You know, if you're talking about somebody's beliefs, then they're probably not gonna mess with you because that's just one of the things you don't really get into because you know everybody got their own little way of believing things.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:53

Oh yeah. And you know, like my you know, I had one friend that was like, Well, dude, you called your you you say your your podcast is unfiltered, and I go, It is, and they're like, but yet you don't like to talk about politics or religion, so really you're not, you are filtered, and I go, Well, you can look at it that way if you want. I said, I don't I look at it as anybody that comes on my podcast and say whatever the fuck they want to say. Um, now I'm not gonna bring up politics or religion because those are two things, and I love God, but you know what? There's a lot of people that don't that don't believe in God. So why would you want to alienate those people? So why talk about it? You know, it's like same with politics. You can't win, especially in this day and age, you can't win with the political talk. So why even have the discussion? Just just just fucking leave it alone because all you're gonna do is alienate 50% of your fan base if you say one thing that they don't agree with, because especially in this day and age, everybody is so god dang sensitive about everything.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:00

Like uh Sabrina Carpenter, she just had a little show at uh Coachella and somebody started yodeling in the crowd and she looked at him and like not really made fun of 'em, but like I said, I don't like that that person told her that that was their culture. Because, you know, yodeling was it was made by some dude in like I don't know, this was probably the eighteen hundreds or something like that, that was that couldn't really speak and he would yodel and everybody kind of figured it out that that was like that's a pretty cool thing, you know, it was like a spiritual thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:29

Oh, that's kind of interesting. That's that's that's kind of a neat story.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:34

And uh she got the bad whiplash back on that because she made she didn't really make fun of much that she didn't like it, and she's kind of not really made fun of the culture, but like that's her culture, you know what I mean? Like she's right.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:50

Well, it's just like me wanting to do, I was telling you before, I wanted to do the special needs podcasting because I don't think there's any podcasters out there that that do that, or at least if they are, I've never seen it. So I'm not saying I'm some pioneer, but it but it's like that that would be cool, but you know, but it scares me to do that too, because I know I know how people are. So luckily, like for you, you you probably can't see the comments. Not that there's very many this time because there's not, but you can't see very many comments unless you click on it. You can do it if you wanted to. But the thing is, like, if I have a special needs kid, I wouldn't tell them. So they would never see if somebody did come in a room and make a shitty comment. Because I've had one podcast where the guy, the guy made a fake account, and he came in and we were interviewing his ex-girlfriend. Well, he came in and as a random Joe, and then all of a sudden he started doing digs. Well, when he was doing the digs, she was able to put two and two together, and she goes, I know who the fuck this is, and blah blah blah. Well, the next thing you know, they're going back and forth, like it turned into a Jerry Springer thing. You're like, fuck, man. But and then somebody was like, Well, Bones, you know, one of somebody in the comments was just like, Um, well, just block the guy, and the guy and the guy heard them or saw their comment, and he goes, 'Yeah, Bones, go ahead and block me. I'll be back in five minutes when I make another account.' And I said, See, he's right. So why? So just ignore him. Just I've just like, just just ignore the guy and he'll eventually go away. And he eventually did. Now it took a while, but the thing that scares me about the special needs thing is, you know, like the last episode I did, the girl that I had on there is my neighbor's grandkid, and she's got Down syndrome. She's the sweetest thing you will ever meet. But and I don't know how she does it, but she has gone to so many uh CMA fests, and she's met all of these famous people. She she's got a wall of fame that just blows me the fuck away. I'm like, how the hell do you do that shit? Yeah, and uh, I don't know if it's because she has Down syndrome, and and if that's why they're giving her the attention, then good, because that kid, she deserves every bit of that. She deserves it. And but having her on the show was so cute because I would pull up pictures of her with like Lainey Wilson or whatever. You know, I had a bunch of pictures that her mom sent me, so I I did just like what I did with you. That's how I learned how to do that, actually, was uh from Wolf teaching me so I could do that for her. And then like I pulled up those two that I found on your site for you. And um, but the cool thing about it was it was that she would light up and she would tell these stories when she sees these pictures, and sometimes she would get you know, she stutters because she gets excited, and uh yeah, well when she would, it was, you know, I think it's the cutest thing in the world, and I think she crushed it. And people that were in that were tuned in, they loved it. But the way I see it is if you don't like it, well then don't come in the room and be shitty, just just go somewhere else, you know, because I didn't care if I had two people in the room or if I had a hundred people in the room, as long as that girl was happy, smiling, and telling her stories, that's what I wanted to see, and that's all I gave a shit about. And I tell you what, man, it was it it's it's awesome. It was awesome, it really was.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:29

Some people I think people just be hating just because they don't got nothing better to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:34

Yeah, I think so too. I think you're right. But you know, like like Andrea, I would tell her, you know, I would tell her about you, and you know, the I'm I'm like, you know, I've got other artists that you may not have heard of, but they're artists too. And to her, it doesn't matter who they are. Yeah, she loves, she's got that love, she just there's just something special about her. And and when I did my son, it was fun doing him too. But but you know, like with him, it was it, you know, it's also tricky when you're dealing with handicapped kids because uh sometimes they don't the way they they say stuff, and and it can be taken out of context pretty easily. So you so it's kind of and that was kind of sucks when you're doing a podcast like mine, because part of mine's being called unfiltered too is for the fact that I have not ever tried yet. I have not done a show and not made it live, done the show, edit it, and then release it. I don't know how to do that. So the only way I could do podcasts currently at the moment is to be unfiltered and organic and go live. And but but the the flip side to that coin is you go live, what you say is out there, there's no take backsies, you're yeah that it is what it is. So her and her mom sent me a friend request. Oh, that's good, wolf. Yeah, because Wolf was Wolf was in there with her, yeah, and that's so that's so cool. But um, but I love it, and I love the music side of things because it's great for somebody like Wolf and myself that are trying to get started. And matter of fact, Wolf's in here, right? Let me see if I can bring her in so you can meet her because uh she she may have you on her show too, especially your band. Uh and uh I think that'd be that'd be great. No, go ahead, brother. Yeah, go ahead. Just just hop up and take off. I'm gonna try to get Wolf in while you're gone. Let's see. Let's see, yeah. There we are. Let's see. Oh, there she is. What up? What up? How are you? Tired, feel like I I bet you are tired. Well, I won't keep you too long because I know you're tired, and it's been an hour and thirty-five minutes. He had to go to the head, but but since you were communicating and I was like, well, she's in here. I was like, let me bring her in so she can meet him. Because um, because we I definitely want to redo him as well. Because I dropped the ball today completely. Even with the lowdown revival, I'm kind of glad that he was he the lead singer was sick and needed to cancel because I didn't even post, like, I didn't even think about it, but like I had him on board and I was excited. I did my research, I I I downloaded photos, I'd done stuff to prepare for them, and the one thing I fucking did not do was I didn't post anything on Facebook to let everybody know we were going live at eight. And I was like, damn it, but my head has been I'm in that dread mode, you know, because the colonoscopy cleanse the prep starts in the morning, so ooh, and then of course I get to have the you know fucking shit show, no pun intended, uh, on Thursday. So I'm just I think that's just I just dropped the ball this week. I've just not I was just not Devin.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:54

How you doing?

SPEAKER_00 1:36:54

Devin, right there. Well, actually, she it which way would she be? I think she'd be this way on the other side of you. But anyway, that's Wolf. So she's with Wolf Air Records, uh, Wolf Talk. Yeah, you know, uh Wolf Podcast. And her and I, like I say, we we sometimes we we pony up together and be co-hosts for each other to help each other out, and then sometimes she may be doing one that I and I've got to do another one on the same time. So then she does her thing, I do our my thing, and we go on from there. But but I wanted you to at least meet her because she would end up having you on her show at some point in time, too, especially once you get the band, you you know, you you start getting everything ironed out and stuff and you're ready. Definitely holler at us, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:40

Because it'd be neat to have uh four more people on the show and you know, talking, get everybody else's opinion and stuff. I think it'd be pretty neat.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:49

Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, that would be cool. And it works out good when you have four or five people, it's not bad. Now, when you start getting more than that, to me, it starts getting a little bit more challenging because it's like no one knows when they should really talk. So it's like you see people go, and then they're like, Okay, baby. All right, yeah. Okay, no, no, not me. Nope, nope, not me yet. You know, you kind of go with that when you get because we could have up to what 10 people on mine, and I and you do the advanced. I don't even know if you can do more than 10, or is it still 10?

SPEAKER_03 1:38:24

No, still 10.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:25

So it's still 10. Okay, yeah, now, but when you do it, because you're the advanced, I'm the core, I think. So the core, I get three streaming platforms. What do you get for stream yard?

SPEAKER_03 1:38:36

I only get three right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:38

So you get three as well. Okay, so it's you may be on job, I'm a brook bitch. Nah, I fucking feel you there. Well, fuck. Hell, the core package alone for stream yard was five hundred dollars for the year, it was like 400 and some change. I'm like, God dang, man. I and I don't know what advance was. I bet you that motherfucker, but I'm like, yeah, I ain't going advanced just yet. I gotta do baby steps.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:06

Where are you at, Devin?

SPEAKER_05 1:39:08

I'm in uh Louisa, Kentucky. It's close to Ashland and Pikeville.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:13

Uh I say if we ever did like a show with the band, I'd probably just try to keep it on my one phone and just try to back it up enough so you can see everybody.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I did um, she was doing one with Hellhouse, and I did I had one with another band that that had of it, they were a five-piece. So I was like, well, it'd probably be best if you do yours, I do mine. That way we don't have uh all these extra people in. But I could only get three out of the five of them's phones that connect. So, and then of course, some of them didn't have earbuds, so it's like it's good to have that on standby because uh, like one guy, he was having such feedback with I could hear myself, but it's because he was sitting next to one guy on the phone. So once once he got up and walked outside, thank god it was a nice night where it wasn't cold. He went outside. Once he went outside, everything was fine. But it's like you had a guy outside, you had a guy like in the garage, you had a guy on the couch, you know, you had people fucking staggered all over the place to try to make this work, so it was a little challenging to say the least. Yeah, he somewhat two hours away, about an hour hours, yeah. He wasn't too too far from where you were, but now you're really far.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:30

Well, I'm coming back this fall.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:33

Yeah, yeah. She had just moved to Moorhead.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:36

If I come back, if I come back this fall, I can actually do an in-person one.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:41

Oh, that'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:42

Oh, where are you at right now?

SPEAKER_03 1:40:44

St. Louis.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:45

St. Louis. Yeah, she just moved there the other day. I'm gonna move to Moorhead and then moved away to St. Louis. It was like it was like click click.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:57

I know I'm getting a lot of uh content out here for my show, and I was thinking I could actually get you on my TV then uh the TV show I'm dropping this fall. That'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:06

I'd be great.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:07

That'd be cool. And she yeah, and if she did that and could would come could come to you all, then you all you'd have the whole band.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:14

Yeah, it'd be at your I can record you all doing uh record you doing like a threesong performance.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:21

Okay, yeah, that'd be cool. That'd be fucking fat. And she did a good job. I saw she did one for James, and uh you did one for uh what was the other guy's name?

SPEAKER_03 1:41:31

Um I did one for Big Blue, Murder Savage, and uh uh uh uh level 92. Yeah, I think I know uh Savage. I think I've heard of it before.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:44

And she does she did a good job, like it turned out really good. It was it was nice. So she's got a cool setup, and she's the one that's helped me, she's helped me learn all sorts of shit. She's another one that's been pivotal for me. Is because I like I had this and I had this fucking boom mic, and I couldn't use I'd bought that shit and couldn't use any of it until her. So thank god I found her. If not, this shit I would have bought it, and it is it has sat here, it sat here on my windowsill collecting dust because I couldn't get it to work. I could use these to listen like on my computer, but I couldn't I couldn't use the boom mic for shit, and I couldn't podcast either because the damn camera kept telling me that it it couldn't find the camera, but yet if I FaceTime somebody it found it every time. I'm like, well, how in the hell can you find it for that? But you can't find it for this. But it's just something whatever I was doing that was wrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:37

She told me, and this is the little thing I use. It's got that on the front, on the back.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:46

Oh, so you can do the uh the uh XLR cables on that, or you can do you can also do just uh is that did that have the uh USB C on it to where you could just yeah, so you can direct line in. Where'd you get that at?

SPEAKER_05 1:43:03

I bought this on uh Amazon. Um I actually got a piece for it that runs through my phone, but you gotta like plug up a couple things. Got like plug, it's like two of these you gotta plug up and it goes straight into your phone, and you can catch the audio from your computer on your uh studio thing, and uh like gives you reverb and stuff. Wanna like sing on TikTok or something?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:22

Go live. Oh shit. Yeah, what'd that cost you?

SPEAKER_05 1:43:25

Uh I'd say that's probably about a hundred dollars, but it came with the microphone, uh, that, and a couple cords, so it worked out pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:35

Hell yeah. Well, I may look into that, you know. When I go to upgrade my system and maybe eventually add, I don't know if I'm gonna do anything anytime soon, though, because I I don't really have a cool like you can't tell what I'm sitting in because I got a backdrop behind me, but I'm just in my fucking living room.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:54

I like your setup right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:55

So I'm in a living room, I got a fucking feet tarp thing behind me, and then you know, I look around my room and you know, I got windows, but the thing that sucks about it is I got windows through here on the other side, so I got two here and two there. So like it kind of sucks in regards to uh it doesn't look studio-ish, you know, and you gotta worry with glare and shit, but I don't know. Maybe eventually I'll do something down in my basement. I thought about building a trying to build a studio down there and doing something, but but then I thought, well, what does this what does sound sound like in a basement? Because it may sound like shit, you know what I mean? Like you get that weird where it bounces off concrete walls, it just sounds all I don't know. I don't know how it would sound. My luck, I'd spend all that time and energy setting shit up and it'd sound like garbage. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:51

Bo, did you see my podcast last night?

SPEAKER_00 1:44:54

No, I did not get to watch it. But did it turn out good though? I wonder.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:58

No, because I blew my nose like three or four times on the show.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:01

Did you really? I apologized every time I was like, dude, I'm sorry, but I got a cold and I have to blow my nose, so I'm just gonna let you all thank God you I wasn't on the show because if I man, if I blew my nose on your show, people would think a fucking barge is coming through because I got a bullhorn, man. My schnaps can put out hella tunes. Oh shit. I'll have to check it out though. I wanted to watch it, but I just uh like I say, yeah, it was only half an hour.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:34

I kept it short.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:36

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 1:45:36

So that one was a short one. What does uh Wolf live stream on? You live on stream on like Kick and Facebook stuff?

SPEAKER_03 1:45:42

I do, I do Facebook, YouTube, and Kick.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:46

Yeah, so pretty much what I do, and what we tried, like what we were doing, which we found it was interesting, it was all trial and error. Like if I co-hosted with her, what what we were doing was she would go on three, then I would choose three, and we would go live. But we thought after we were looking at stuff, then one time she couldn't go live, so what she did was shared it, and it seemed like it it benefited the host better. So since we're helping each other, if I'm on hers, then it's better if I don't do it if I just share it, and then because uh I I forget how to explain it, she did a better job, but it if things go to her, oh she we lost her, but um, but she would um essentially it would allow her to get I I guess better reach or better engagements, maybe. Um, so we've been trying, we've been trying different things to see because like I say, her numbers and you know, helping me and my numbers helping her, even though we neither one of us have great numbers, we still got about 1,500 apiece. Well, I I've got I think 11. There we go. You bet there you we lost now. We lost.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:03

I had a phone call.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:04

So oh, gotcha. I thought we just we just lost you. But uh yeah, I was telling him about just kind of about how we kind of split that up to try to help each other out.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:14

Oh yeah, I heard I heard you. Yeah, it works out better now. I'm actually it I've actually gotten more views online when we do it that way.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:23

Good deal. So now we know what we need to do when we're helping each other out, and I love it that we're helping each other out. It's it's nice, it's it makes it enjoyable, and and sometimes we just have fun just cutting up with motherfuckers on there and laughing and hee-howing it up. It's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:41

That's the cool thing about it, is figuring out like the algorithm and like how you should do it, how you should do things, because that's the hardest part about figuring it out, is yeah, the entertainment.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:52

And a lot of it's just trial and error. It's like, well, we tried it that way, and what if we try it this way?

SPEAKER_03 1:47:58

Let's see what happens, and then you just gotta look at the fucking numbers and see, and you know, and and the more view, the more views you have on your stuff, it helps you with your algorithm.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:11

Does it? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I was telling him, you know, about times, you know, some people say it. Like I was talking with somebody, I think it was Mike Clacy the other day. And I was just like, I don't even know, I just don't know how much it's a certain time because you know my philosophy is if everybody's releasing shit at 8 p.m., then are you really doing yourself any justice? Because you're in competition with every fucking swinging dick that is doing a live at 8 p.m. And almost everybody wants to do lives at 8 p.m. So it's like, now I did there was one guy that wants me to do a show with him, and his is at 7. And I thought, well, see, maybe he's got you know an idea there because it's like, all right, he's starting a whole hour before everybody else. So he has a chance to hook somebody in and keep them instead of everybody going live at eight and then you having to choose. Because like we've had fans too that have got in here and they've been like, Well, I saw that Wolf was live and I saw you were live and I didn't know where to go. And that was another thing I think that you said, Wolf, wasn't it? Uh, you were saying that that's why we should not go live at the same time because it was too confusing to the fans. The fans didn't know they were like, Well, I don't know who to choose or what to do. So it's better, it was better for us to where if she's hosting and it's Wolf Podcast, then I'm a I'm with her. Yeah. So I don't go live, I just share it. And it and when you share it, it's still happening. So, like when I share it on my say my uh Facebook, well, then it's once I share it to Facebook, while she's live, it's happening on my Facebook. So you're still kind of achieving the same thing. The only thing is you're not confusing the shit out of people, you know. So definitely trial and error. It's pretty, it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:04

Look at a repetition too. The more you do it, the more people you'll pull in.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:09

More people will stick with you. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:13

How long y'all be able to do?

SPEAKER_03 1:50:14

All right, well, I hate to dip, guys, but I got I got a call to make.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:18

No, I feel you. I'm just glad you jumped in. I just wanted you to jump in anyway long enough just to say hi to him. And like I say, with him having the band now, that was a new uh a new thing to me, even. So with him actually having a band and stuff, once they they get some stuff under their belt to where they because they're they're new, it's like this is fresh as fuck. But as soon as they do, he's like, Man, I'd love to be back on the show with the whole band. And I said, Fuck yeah, I would too. So and same with you. I said, and that's what's awesome about the music stuff, too, is we've got thanks to Pam and and like her, and between her, me, and Pam, we got so many options of people that want to be on the show. And I'm moved that they want to, and that's awesome. And uh, and then once we get through all them, then hopefully by then we have solidified ourselves enough to where we can start drawing other people that are from outside agencies, and you hell, you never know. You may eventually land a really big fish, one of you know, like a fucking, you know, I don't know, Jason Aldean kind of thing. You never know.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:25

Well bones, I wanted to tell you, um, I'm actually in the process of getting hired into this job. So give me a couple weeks, and then I'll actually have a schedule back to where I can actually join you again.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:36

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Yeah, you got to take care of business first, which you know, make sure you're paying for your lodging and your gas and food and all that other shit. So no, I feel you. So yeah, just keep me posted. So much love to you. It's good to meet you. All right.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:55

What's Devin?

SPEAKER_00 1:51:56

I said it's good to meet you.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:57

It was good to meet you, and we'll definitely talk because I definitely want to have you guys on my show.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:02

Yeah, he's a fucking cool dude, man. I he's he this is this is one cat that's uh he's a good dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:08

So it's definitely like I said, I'm getting ready to drop two shows, two shows this fall on Amazon Prime. One is like a talk show, it's like with a podcast and a three performance. The other one is I didn't tell you yet, Bones. I'm actually doing one where I go to shows and record it and I separate it to a half an hour, and I put together artists that perform, and then that way it'll be like a live show type deal.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:36

Oh no shit. That'll be cool. Yeah, I'm gonna have to have you teach me how to how you edit shit. And I know one thing, fucking James did that music video for us, and I thought he did a great job, but he did it on his phone, and I'm like, how the fuck do you do it on your phone? I tried to edit just a like a stupid, like I don't know, 30-second me just blabbing about nothing, and just tried to edit it just to try my hand on my phone. Uh it's too small. I was like, I can't do it. I don't know how the fuck. If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna have to do it on a computer where I have a mouse because this whole fucking using your phone and trying to drag shit and separate shit with your fingers. I'm like, no, not working for this whole fuck.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:20

So I'll see you later, Devin. I'll talk to you soon.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:23

Bye, love.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:24

Send me a send me a friend request on uh here or uh Facebook or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:30

Facebook, all right. I'll get Wolf uh not Wolf to send me uh your uh username so I can add you on there. Yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:40

Send yeah, send him my uh my page.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:43

Oh yeah, yeah, yep. I can definitely I can definitely do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:48

All right, Wolf.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:49

It's good seeing you, honey.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:50

All right, bye guys, talk to you later.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:52

Night, have a good evening.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:53

You too.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:57

So now uh well we're almost at two hours, so we've had a pretty pretty damn good show. Uh we could take a moment if you want. Do you want to drop some plugs where people can find you? You may not even know them off the top of your head because yours were I I was I was gonna write them down, but I didn't have time.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:17

So I believe my TikTok is Devonmore underscore music 439. I'm pretty sure. And our band is, I'm pretty sure it's Rosary Sons. No, I don't think there's any numbers after that. I think it's just Rosary Sons. I don't know exactly how to spell it. I'm illiterate. A little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:36

Hey, a little illiterate. Well, that's all right, that's why you're a musician. No, just kidding. Just fucking around, everybody. God dang. All these musicians gonna be like, fuck you, what are you trying to say? I'm an idiot. No, you're not. If anybody's an idiot, it's me. But um, but yeah, I know I feel I fucking feel you. I gotta check spelling on shit, and and with my dyslexia, I gotta check numbers all the time because I fuck shit up so much.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:02

It's hell, it's a hell of a thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:04

Oh, it is, it totally is. But um, but anyway, I wanted you to drop your plug. So anybody, you know, if y'all are out there, check out you know, Devin Moore. There is gonna be a lot more to come. So we are gonna have him back when they have the band because um there are lots is a whole lot's gonna change for this young man now that he's got a band. So this songs may change, there may be new stuff. Um, they're obviously got a uh it's gonna be a totally different uh feel and appeal. They're gonna start doing some traveling. So, mama, everything will be okay. I know it sucks because trust me, I have my heart breaks. My heart would break too if he was leaving. I get it, because uh the thought of my kids leaving, I'm just like, oh, I'm like, man. And now my handicapped son, he's never gonna leave, so I ain't gotta worry about that. But but the the youngest, the youngest son, he's you know, it's like I don't want him to leave, so I'm glad he's still home. But it is hard. You want to hold on to it.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:03

Yeah, boom.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:04

I got say that again.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:06

I said, how many kids you got?

SPEAKER_00 1:56:08

Well, I've got I've got a total of two that I created and one that I did not. So I've I've got three kids and and um uh right now, sadly, the my my daughter's not really speaking to me right now, but I kind of said some I shared a feeling that hurt her feelings, and and um, but I needed her to know how I felt and it went side everything went sideways and it sucks. It sucks fucking rocks, but hopefully things will eventually turn around. But if they don't, then it is I guess it is what it is, but it just sucks. I mean I hate it, but and you know, and once the genie's out of the bottle, it's hard to put that genie back sometimes. So and I'm not the I'm not a bad dude, but I I do have a tendency sometimes of saying I say what's on my mind and saying I don't give a shit if you know sometimes I don't give a shit if it hurts people, and I'm trying to change. I've been working on myself. I I'm trying to be less angry, less, you know, just I'm trying to be a better dude. And uh I'm trying to make changes, but it takes time, you know. When you're 52 and you're old and you've done shit a certain way your whole life, it's hard to change that.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:30

It's hard to change in a week, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:33

People expect very, very hard, very hard.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:36

It doesn't work like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:37

It's not how no, it sure doesn't. So needless to say, I've not been the happiest person lately. You know, there's been a lot of changes in my life that have that um have hurt me too, but I still don't regret sharing my feelings because my feelings need to be heard, you know. It you can't expect people to know what you're feeling if you don't tell them. So if you if something's going on that you're not happy with, if you don't tell nobody, then how do you expect anybody to act? How do you expect anybody else to change? But also I know that change, a lot of change also starts with yourself, and that's why I was like, all right, you know what, I need to start working on myself. There's things about me I don't like, and I want I want to do things differently.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:24

So that's one of the hardest things to do because if you've been doing something for 20, 30, 40 years, I mean it's hard to you know just quit that.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:35

It really is, you know, and some people may say that's just an excuse. Well, maybe it is, but you know, but it is hard. It it's it's it's hard to fucking change. I mean, they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, doesn't mean that you really can't, but but the truth the saying is still true, though. You know, an old dog that's used to doing something a certain way, well, then when you you go to change it, it just throws a wrench in everything. Like it takes time, it's not gonna happen overnight. So, but but my youngest boy, he still lives at home for now, but but um I'm not looking forward to the day when he when he decides to finally move away. And I know that day's coming, but hopefully it'll be a lot, it'll be later than sooner. But you know, in regards to you, the good thing about it is it sucks, it sucks for a mama because she's gonna struggle with it. And be patient with her, by the way. When you know, definitely be patient with your mom when that when you do start traveling, because that's gonna be really hard on her. I try to break the ice slowly, not not just let it all out one time. And that's smart. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. And your mom knows, she's a smart lady, she's very intelligent, she knows that it's coming, she just don't want to see it, and I don't blame her, you know. But she's got a good kid, man. You're a good dude, you know. You're you're a great son, I guarantee it. And you're very talented, and and uh you're gonna do well. And I know that she sees that too. So she she's not gonna be the kind of person I don't think that's gonna try to hold you back. She just it just sucks. She just don't want to see that day come. No one ever wants to see this day come when your kids get to be grown men and they start doing their own thing, you know. So, but it's gonna be fun, and she'll be able to go with on at least on some stuff with you, I'm sure she wants to. She can go hang out and she's never not invited, you know what I mean. Exactly. And you know what? You never know, man. She's doing her shit on TikTok. You never know, man. She may end up blowing the fuck up you. Who knows, man? You know, you may be able to add her to the show. She'd be like the your forever opener, you know, and then she could be on there, do some singing, some dancing, or who or who knows? Who knows, man? Who knows what'll happen. So, but yeah, your mom's super nice, lady. Definitely tell her I said hi because I thought highly of both of you when I met you. But your mom is very talented. And again, you know, that that whole koozie you gave me when I met you, it was a very nice gesture. You know, I've gotten a koozie from you and I and I got a cup from uh Courtney Joe band. And those are really the only two, I think those are the only two things that I've gotten uh while since I've been in this music industry from other people.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:21

Really?

SPEAKER_00 2:01:21

And uh, and I make sure that I keep them, you know, like I say, I can see your koozie every day that I sit at this desk doing my work. I say I can see your koozie and I can see her, you know, Courtney Joe's cup, and then I got a bunch of other shit. I got some shit from the movies that I've done because I do some I do some set medic as a you know, fill-in set medic for movies that are filmed in the 502, and and I was just recently on a TV show that aired on television um that was filmed in where Evans Orchard, which was in Georgetown, Kentucky, uh, through Lex Studios. So, and that was filmed for uh People Magazine. So um I've gotten like some of the key grips and shit give me they give me stickers, or I've gotten some koozies, like the crafty booth. Um, ladies on the uh one movie that I was on. The last movie I was on with Sarah Silverman was um it was shot in Louisville, but the crafty booth was was run by these two chicks that are from Australia, and they were fun as fuck, man. I mean, like we had so much fucking fun. And of course, I love Australian chicks the way they talk, so I could listen to these two ladies talk all fucking day long. But they had this crafty booth and stuff, and and they gave me they gave me a cool little their little koozie with the little, you know, the koala or not koala, I almost said koala, fuck kangaroo on it and shit. And uh, but it was nice that they included me, you know, because they didn't have to. I was there one day. I was filling in, is all I was doing. Because the uh set medic that was on the movie the whole time, um, her name's Susan, and I used to I used to know her. She used to be a nurse at the hospital in Louisville, and then she did stat care where she flew in the planes for the medical planes and stuff. But now that's what she does. So I fill in a lot of times for Miss Susan when she needs a day off, or if she's got to take a loved one to the doctors, or if she's sick, then I fill in. So like I was on the movie The Leader for I think three days, and then I was on um the well, let's see, what was the name of it? Uh the Growing Season. That's right. The Growing Season with Sarah Silverman was uh I was just on one day and it was shot, it was shot down in um like Butchertown area. So like we were in some shotgun houses and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:51

And that's one thing I've noticed too. Like people that's from different like countries come here and sing in US and uh they usually make it because people love to hear that voice. That you know what I mean? Yeah, that's I kind of wonder that about other places. Like, what if I went to Canada and try to make a career down there and came back here? Like, would it work?

SPEAKER_00 2:04:12

Dude, I think I think you I think it would help. I think you're right. Because if I if memory serves, I think a lot of times, like say, like, say for instance, you went to Australia. Well, if you you talk the way you talk in Australia, they're gonna be them women are gonna be like, oh damn, yeah, you know, it's something because they ain't used that twangy voice, like you've got they are they're used to the uh the Australian accent. Well, the Australian accent to them is just like everybody fucking talking, so they're like it's just they're like you know, it's like me and you talking, we hear each other the same way, but like when we hear somebody else from another place like that, you know. Yeah, you're like you're looking and you're like, damn, you know, where where are you from? Yeah, there's a lady that um one of my neighbors' friends that that does the movie stuff, her name's Danielle. That man, she she's from Great Britain, and she's another one, man. The Great Britain accent. I'm just like uh when she talks, I'm like, I just love to hear her talk. I just love it. It's just but it's so you know, it's just you're just like you said, you're just not used to it. So when you hear something different, it's like you really kind of gravitate to it. It's like, wow, that's that's something neat, that's something new. So yeah, I think you're right. I think if you went to like Canada, um, or if you went to you know Australia or something like that, or even over in the UK, and you know, you never know. In the future you might.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:38

Speaking about Canada, did y'all ever do that? Because I remember you telling me something one time.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:42

No, we well, we never did, and of course I've changed bands now. I'm on you know, the third band, but um no, I was trying to do something with Arcana Kings out of Canada, uh, and they are a rock band. And uh if you've never seen Arcana Kings, man, they're you need to check them out too because they're fucking badass, dude. They uh and they also incorporate the bagpipes in uh into theirs, and I love I'm obsessed with bagpipes. So because I was actually I actually started to try to learn to play bagpipes when years ago when I was working EMS with the Louisville pipe band, and I started to learn, but then they changed our schedule, and when they did they changed it to a time with my children to where I was only gonna make like one practice every other week, or maybe even one every three weeks. And I was like, dude, you can't you can't try to learn how to play bagpipes and uh on that just just one once a week or once every once every other week. It's like you can't do that. That's I would have fallen so far behind it'd have been unreal. That's something you know, like an hour a day, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:58

That's the same thing like piano. I mean, I play it every day for at least 30, 40 minutes just to get, you know, just thing because there's so many different ways you can play it, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:09

I just think it's neat though that you don't you you're self-taught, and that you know, if anything, you pull up a YouTube video and you you figure out how to do one thing and then you can expand from that. It just blows my mind. I mean, that the the amount of talent that you have to have to do that is just uncanny.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:26

It it's pretty cool because I can watch a video and it shows me a chord, and you can do that chord on like different places, it's just the different sound you can get from it, and you can learn from that.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:38

Yeah, it's kind of like the guitar you've got you can get like a a D up high on the neck, but you can also come down and there and you can find it lower or something to that aspect. I'm not musically inclined, so everybody's like, look at this fucking idiot trying to talk like he knows something, because I don't. I I do try to dabble with like my son plays guitar, and I try to dabble with I have a bass, I have a Yamaha, and I love it. I like playing it now. We play rocksmith a lot of times, so I like to play it because it's like a video game and it's fun. And uh, so I I've played my bass and and I can keep up on some things, some songs. Like I could pour some sugar on me, I can I can hang with that one for the most part. I got but some of them I can't.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:25

I got me a new Martin. It's pretty, it's pretty. It's uh it's like a it's like a wood finish color. It's uh it's pretty nice. I've I've had it for a while, like maybe three months.

SPEAKER_00 2:08:34

You want to see it? Yeah, fuck yeah, man. I'd love to see it. Hell yeah. Oh, damn. That's man, that's got pretty wood grain. That wood grain's so smooth, it almost looks like a goddamn bowling alley floor.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:52

That's what I say. It's really nice and beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 2:08:55

Dude, that is a nice guitar, man. That is really nice. You still got your black one? Yeah, it's uh because that that one that black guitar was a nice guitar too, man. I think that was the one. Matter of fact, I think that was the one you brought when you played um when we met.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:16

I had a funny story about that guitar. Uh I went to a party one night at my buddy's, and uh I had it in this case, and it was like it wasn't a hard case, it was a soft shell case. And um we were partying and I was playing everybody music, and then some drunk guy came over and spilled a beer beside it by the case. So I picked up the case, but I was drunk, so I forgot that I didn't have the case zipped up. And when I picked it up, I was kind of like laning it, and it just the guitar just fell out, and it was oh fuck it's bad, and it like it broke one of the pegs at the top, and it like kind of like shattered the body a little bit, but it still plays good, it just needs some work. But I brought it to a guy at a guitar shop, and he was like, You don't want to take her scars away, it does a story about her. And to me, I'm I'm a perfectionist, so I worry about that stuff. I'm like, I don't want my guitar looking like it's been beat up, you know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:09

But on the same token, I mean, fuck it, look at Willie Nelson, man. What was his guitar called Trigger or something like that? Like a hole in it, and dude, that motherfucker had a goddamn gaping hole like the Grand Canyon where he had I picked all the way through that bitch. I'm like, damn, dude, that's a hell you you are strumming mofo when you can dig through a guitar, but that also shows just how fucking how attached he was to that one that one instrument was his everything.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:37

That's how I'm feeling about this, Martin. It's really nice, it's really dude.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:41

It is a beautiful guitar, man.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:42

It's it sounds even better when it's plugged up, it's got the fisherman uh like pickups in it.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:48

Oh, so it's acoustic and electric. Yeah, it's oh dude, that's badass, dude. That's fucking nice.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:53

I love where it plugs in too because it's like right where the uh strap latches on. So it's like right at the middle of the guitar, so you just plug it into the end.

SPEAKER_00 2:11:02

Oh, that's nice. Yeah, that's a fucking sweet, that's a sweet ride you got there that you bought. That's nice. That's a nice motherfucker. So congratulations on that.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:12

I believe they got that guitar up in uh Huntington.

SPEAKER_00 2:11:16

Did you? Yeah, it's fucking nice as fuck. Now my son, he's got uh Floyd Rose, and um it's a um he's got well, he's got a couple Floyd Rose style guitars, but he his main one is a it's a Floyd Rose, I forget what the hell he called it. Steve Vi. I think it's Steve Vi Floyd Rose guitar. And it's white and it's got the it's in the fretboard, it's got vines, like vines that creep all up it and stuff. That's great. Matter of fact, that's what well this guitar right there, that is his guitar. It was The actual it's hard to see, obviously, but with all my arm hair too. But that's I took a picture of his guitar and then went to my tattooist and said tattoo it on me. So it that was from a picture I took off my phone.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:14

I wanted to get a tattoo. I ain't got one yet, but I'm thinking about maybe right here.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:19

That's a good one to start. I will tell you that shoulders are good to start up on the side here because um it's probably the least painful area to get tattooed. And there, you know, but I got a bunch, but I took but I tell you what too, man. I didn't get my first tattoo until I was let's see, I think I was 40. I was over 40, I think. So I had thought about matter of fact, this get this tattoo here, the one with the the uh skull and the clover and uh the bones, I had looked at that. That was my first tattoo I ever got, and that was I thought about that one for seven years. Like that, and I kept going back to it and I kept liking it, and I kept being jazzed, and I was like, Well, you know what? After seven years, like a seven-year itch. It's after seven years, if I still fucking like that tattoo, then I feel like if I tattooed on my body, I'm not gonna regret it. Yeah, and I didn't, so I got it, but then of course, once you get that one, once you get the first one, then it's all fucking then it's just fucking shit. Just starts fucking shit just starts fucking going nuts. I mean, you just it just shit just explodes and grows everywhere. I I can that you got in it.

SPEAKER_05 2:13:33

It's not just black and white.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:35

Oh, yeah, I got some color like that. That that's a well, it's hard to see. It's a it's a clotter ring, is what it is, essentially. I like that. That's beautiful. And that fucking that was a cool tattoo, and I love the colors. Now I tell you what, you get up in this area here, and all up in there. That ain't fun. You'll sit there and be like, Woo! Like, I hope this ain't gonna take forever. Cause yeah, it's those get a little bit tender. And then of course, you know, when I got like a special Olympics tattoo there, you know, when you're when you're there or you're you're coloring in all this shit, you're oh that shit right there fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:17

I was surprised I ain't got one yet from these bad decisions, you know, at the bars because they'd be right beside the tattoo shops.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:23

Yeah, oh hell yeah. Yeah, exactly. But you know what? But then you got some people like I like I noticed that Warren Zyder's guy, he didn't have any tattoos. Yeah, so you know, some people still don't, you know, now they're not as they're not as uncommon. Excuse me. Oh, pardon me. You can tell my old fucking retarded ass is it's gotta be getting old. Yeah, it's 2216. So I could tell I'm yeah, starting to yawn now. My my old ass is like, yep, almost time to wrap this podcast up and go to bed. But um, but the man, I appreciate I appreciate you bailing me out on this, brother. Thank you for for jumping in at the last minute. I know I didn't do you as much justice as I will in the future. Uh, even today, even with that other band, I'm kind of glad he canceled because, like I was telling Wolf while you were going to the head, I was like, Normally I try to at least post a picture and say, hey, Bones podcast is you know, we're gonna be interviewing him at tomorrow at eight, at least one day, at least one day ahead of time. That way people can plan because we didn't have that many people in this room, but people didn't know, people didn't know I was going available. Yeah, so and and a lot of that was just that's just all my fault. I dropped the ball with you know having this colonoscopy. Everything my mind was just in other places, and it had nothing to do with podcasting, but I knew I needed to at least try to get a podcast done, at least one this week, with everything I had going on medically. It's like I need to do something. So I do appreciate you. You came in in the clutch and saved me, and I appreciate it, brother.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:59

I feel like this has been a pretty good one. I can't lie.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:02

Oh, I think I I've had fun, and I tell you what, it's gonna be really it's gonna be a lot of fun when when you get the whole band, too. That's gonna that's gonna be cool, dude. We're gonna we're gonna laugh, cut up, and just have a fucking big old time. But but no, this was this was I think this was a good show. Uh it would have been nice if I could have obtained maybe some videos to play for people, like I did the pictures. But you know what? I mean, I could have even done it, and we can even do it if when we do you your the whole band, we can we can play Wolf said.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:32

I will send you some pictures after our first show because we're gonna take some pictures and then I'll send them to you so you can show them on here, like how you did those ones today.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:39

Yeah, hell yeah. Oh dude, the first one I knew you were gonna love it because I was like, dude, he is young as fuck, man. I was like, this I saw this picture and I laughed because I was like, damn, that he he had to have been. I figured you were, I figured you were at least 16 or 17, but you were even younger than that. Because I was like, dude, he could barely grow face any facial hair. Like you look, you had that Amish beard going on, it was just underneath. It was like baby face, smooth as silk. So and I was like, I've got to bring that up and be like, hey, look at this photo, you know. And then the other photo I thought was just a cool black and white photo of you. You kind of had your hat pulled down, so you couldn't really see your face. You you were daffered out in your suit. I was just like, that's just a cool photo.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:29

Yeah, I'll send I'll send you a few. I see if the band members have any like you know, crazy pictures from back in their day, because I still got some more that I can give to you.

SPEAKER_00 2:17:37

Oh, I guarantee you do. Oh, yeah. And then, of course, you know, if you do shoot any live video uh and and it's stuff that you like, um, then send me those too, because if I upload them into my computer to the download section, then the same way I brought up your photos, I can click it, I can pull that up while we're doing the even doing the show and pull up your video and then say, hey, I'm gonna play this song, you know, blah blah blah. And then I can start it and then we it moves everybody over like you saw it did, it moves us all over to one side. Your video will play. We'd get quiet, let people watch it, and then move on.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:18

I think it's I think it's gonna be pretty fun with Wolf too, whenever uh she wants to do that video stuff, like three songs, that'd be cool.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:24

Oh, dude, I think that would be cool. Yeah, and we we did a podcast with her. Uh, it was the first time I'd ever seen it done since I've been podcasting with her, but she had Mark Hare, H H A E R is is how you pronounce his name. He's a cool cat too, man. He's a good dude. You'd like him. And um, but Mark actually played us up a few songs live. So he had his if we were in his house and he had his microphone and everything set up, and then when it was time, he just kind of stepped back and and he played that played some songs. I think he did two.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:01

If you want me to if you want me to before we end this, I can play you a song the song, a song real quick.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:07

Sure. If you don't, if you don't mind, that'd be cool.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:10

I will. Uh when do you want to end it? That's my question.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:14

Oh, we we can get ready. We can get ready and wrap. I mean, we're at two two hours and 19 minutes.

unknown 2:19:21

All right.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:22

And it's now 10 30. So yeah, well, I'd say we could we could rap, we could hit a song if you want, and then we can uh we can get ready and sign off.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:31

All right, yeah, let me grab my guitar real quick.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:33

All right, sounds good, brother. Hell yeah. Shit, I'm excited. I am I am curious how this is gonna work because I haven't done it on mine yet. So you doing it live, I I haven't asked anybody to do this, so this is the first. So I'm excited to see how this turns out.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:54

Tell me how this sounds first. Make sure we ain't cutting out.

unknown 2:20:00

All right.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:01

This is uh one of my originals right here. Me and the band wrote it's called Gotta Get Farther. It's about like journeys through your music life, and well, you can take it as other stuff too. You can take it through your life and where you've been and how far you gotta get. It's called Gotta Get Farther. I'm gonna play it for y'all here.

SPEAKER_00 2:20:18

Gotta get further. I like the title.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:20

I'll play the I'll play the second verse in the course.

SPEAKER_00 2:20:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:40

And uh good girl at home says when you're gonna quit traveling. Oh, I don't know, but I gotta go. Wish I could stay just a little bit longer. Honey, you know what's how it goes when you love a rainbow, ramble, ramble. I'm living like a chip stay on the road. Little my phone, yeah. Life's already hard, so I make it harder. Your dreams are only gonna get you further. Oh, you gotta get a give further. Yeah. Oh, you gotta get further.

SPEAKER_00 2:21:51

Dude, that actually didn't sound bad, dude. For the first time, me doing it on my show. That didn't sound bad. And you sounded great as always. Thank you, but uh, but it did. I mean, that actually worked out pretty good. I was curious to see how that was really gonna turn out because when Wolf did it, I was like, Well, I don't know what her setup's like, so maybe she has shit wired in differently, you know.

SPEAKER_05 2:22:12

I was kind of worried about it because you know, sometimes in these streams you got like breakage and it like breaks your voice up and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 2:22:17

Yeah, yeah, because every now and again you'll talk and and I won't catch a word, like it'll cut it out, and uh it's just I don't know why that shit happens, but it does. It didn't do it though when you were doing the song, but I'll tell you what, man. That's a that's a sweet ass fucking guitar, too. That's nice. That's nice as fuck, man.

SPEAKER_05 2:22:36

Take out the little pickup on it's nice.

SPEAKER_00 2:22:39

Oh, there it is. That's fucking cool, man. I love the acoustic electrics, man. I think they're fucking sweet. It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 2:22:47

I I like my yamaha too, I can't lie. But it just got this guitar rings out in a good way.

SPEAKER_00 2:22:54

Now, is your is your Yamaha, is that an acoustic electric too, or is that just acoustic?

SPEAKER_05 2:22:59

Every guitar I try to get nowadays electric acoustic because I'm just you know, if I buy a guitar, I want to play with it on stage and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 2:23:05

Yeah, yeah. I yeah, I don't I don't know why anybody would necessarily want just straight acoustic.

SPEAKER_05 2:23:12

I don't want to, I don't want to make nobody have to set up an extra microphone just for my guitar, you know what I mean? So I can just play right so much easier.

SPEAKER_00 2:23:19

Yeah, yeah, because yeah, you'd have to. You'd have to more you'd have to mic it if you just had a regular. And I don't know why anybody would want just I don't even know why they'd even sell just acoustic only anymore. I mean, maybe it's because I'm not a musician, but maybe there is a sound difference.

SPEAKER_05 2:23:37

It it makes it just a little bit cheaper if you don't add the uh sound equipment in it. It makes it like you know, a six hundred dollar guitar will turn into a three hundred dollar guitar without the sound equipment in it.

SPEAKER_00 2:23:47

Oh, okay. So a lot of times it may come down to just a monet monetary value. I got you. Well, and that makes sense. That makes sense, but yeah, that fucking sounded good. You want to play anything else? Uh uh half of another song or something? You don't have to play the whole thing, but let's see here.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:04

This is like one of my first songs I ever played.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:08

It was called uh Hurricane by Bannon Evans came down from Chicago, he gonna say that let me ride. Why don't you be feeble higher? You won't make food, but the old man down in the corner all the time is from it's whiskey by the land, this is what it is. I was born in the shine on the chance, on the moon. Nobody kind of hurricane come around it with you. But the house water devil titles, it's hot it's cold, she's fine. Nobody tired, it takes a lot of water to wash the way do all things. It takes a lot of water to wash the win.

SPEAKER_00 2:25:44

Do all yeah, yeah. That's fucking that was that was fucking good, bro. You got such a good voice, man. You really fucking do, dude. And dude, that would be a killer song. If y'all do go down to fucking Louisiana, that's what you you need to play that song for sure. 100 100. Yeah, for sure. Well, brother, I think it's been a good show. We've been running now. It'll be well, it's almost two hours and 26 minutes, is where we're at right now. So I think that's a pretty good show for now, especially for a show that we just kind of threw together on the fucking fly. We didn't really have time to prepare for anything, we didn't have time to promote it to get people more people in the room because normally we do have a lot more people that that come in. We just put on here. Say it again.

SPEAKER_05 2:26:33

I said we just been freestyling on here.

SPEAKER_00 2:26:35

Oh, yeah, we just exactly. And a lot of people, a lot of my regulars that um that normally are in my podcast that weren't today, they they will definitely check this out tomorrow for sure.

SPEAKER_05 2:26:49

Um Yeah, with the band, it's gonna be awesome, dude. It's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_00 2:26:52

Oh, hell yeah. And it's always better live anyway, I think.

SPEAKER_05 2:26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:26:57

Because when you're when you're live, it's it's I don't know, to me, it's easier to watch when they're live. And you can you get I like fan participation, which we didn't have much of this time, obviously, but but but we will, and it, and it has. We've had a lot of fan participation, so they may ask a question or ask something, and I'll be like, Oh, hey, Devin, what about this? And then you can answer. And I love that. I love that extra feedback.

SPEAKER_05 2:27:23

I feel like when you're live too, it just gives you more of a personal effect, and it's not just something for a video, you know what I mean? Because you're talking and expressing yourself in a way that you could do in a video.

SPEAKER_00 2:27:34

Hell yeah. And I don't even know, like, I haven't looked at YouTube or uh uh kick. So normally with kick, they I I get bots, I get a lot of bots with kick. They'll be like, Hey, why don't you reach out to me and I'll help you promote your shit? And I'm like, you know, I'm just like, yeah, fuck all can you connect Twitch to this too? Say it again. Can you connect Twitch to this? Yes, I could do Twitch.

SPEAKER_05 2:28:01

I do Twitch too. Twitch is good.

SPEAKER_00 2:28:03

Um, I do Twitch or I can do Twitch. I think I'll have to look at I'm pretty sure you can do Twitch. I don't have Twitch. I did kick. It would be nice to have Twitch. I don't have a Twitch account either. It'd be nice to actually go back and forth. So do a kick and then do a Twitch because I always want to do YouTube because for me, an old guy, I love the YouTube and I love the Facebook. So those are the two that I'm always gonna run. And you know, TikTok might be good too. Well, you know, it's funny. I I that's what I wanted, actually, more than kick was TikTok. I have not um my dumbass has not figured out how to take how tick tock and and believe it or not, uh what's the other one called? Um Instagram are they don't they don't want to play the same. Like like when I go live, I did when I went live with this, I I chose the three platforms and I hit live and it did the countdown and it started. But apparently, if I want to use Instagram, every time I go to run it, it won't start. I have to remember to start it itself, and I don't I don't know why. So I don't know what I'm doing wrong if I'm doing anything. And TikTok, I couldn't figure out how I couldn't figure out how to get TikTok on here to do it. But somebody told me TikTok and Instagram are the two biggest pain in the asses, but they would be I would love to do TikTok.

SPEAKER_05 2:29:35

Yeah, because you could get gifts on TikTok and people can like I I went live streaming one night on TikTok just one night and I made like 60 bucks.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:44

Yeah, oh yeah, and um like on here I can get stars, which like I say, between Brandon and Andrea, the two special needs kids, that they were the ones that got me fucking monetary money off of the podcast. It wasn't anything I did, it was those two kids, you know. But people love it, you know. Like I say, some people would make fun of them, but I loved having Andrea on. Now, some people may say, well, you know, she stutters. Okay. So I'm never I don't give a shit. I like I love her to death. I I love listening to her talk. I love that she gets so excited that she does stutter. I love that about her. I love that, you know. But I'm also do a lot with Special Olympics. I mean, I've been doing that now of what coaching three events for two and three events for the last eight years, I think. So I donate a lot of my time to the Special Olympics, and I love it.

SPEAKER_05 2:30:42

But um I'll never get that, how somebody can make fun of somebody with that. You know what I mean? That's just so messed up to me.

SPEAKER_00 2:30:49

Oh, me too, bro. And yet, but it happens, and you know, and I'm waiting for the day, and it's coming. It probably already happens. I mean, I don't pay attention to it, but you know, it it's gonna come a point in time where people are gonna be like, hey, that bones guy, what a you know, what a fag, or or oh, his his teeth are jacked up, or you know, he's a fucking idiot, and you know, he his podcast is the worst podcast I've ever seen. Okay, yeah, whatever. I mean, I'm sure those days are coming, but at least if I'm dealing with it, I'm like, whatever. I don't really give a shit because I'm not doing this to necessarily make money. If I do, bonus.

SPEAKER_05 2:31:24

If I you know, that would be cool, but there's a lot of people that does it just to get like like say like on Kai, I don't know if you know Kai Snat, but he streams like people when you know they'll talk trash just to like be funny in front of the other people that's watching the stream, you know. Oh yeah, yeah, try to that try to draw attention that way. Yeah, they know they might get called out, and if they get called out, that's what they want.

SPEAKER_00 2:31:50

Yeah, and me, you know, now me, like I I play a lot of online video gaming still, even at 52. And you know, Wolf, she does that too. Like, she'll she'll be on there and she'll she'll do that whole shit they do on Twitch and Kick where they they she'll oh what do they call it? Streaming, or yeah, is it streaming where you're playing the video game, but there are people are watching you play it?

SPEAKER_05 2:32:12

Yeah, it's streaming.

SPEAKER_00 2:32:13

I've never understood that, but she does it, and um, but you know, I was like, well, fuck as much video games as I play, hell I could do the same fucking thing.

SPEAKER_05 2:32:20

What games are you playing?

SPEAKER_00 2:32:22

I play uh COD. I play right now. I'm right now I'm big with COD, um Marvel Rivals. Um I've been playing some MLB with my son and then uh Starfield and what's uh not so much GTA now because I'm kind of pipe humped and waiting for the the new release of the new one.

SPEAKER_05 2:32:50

I'm definitely ready for some GTA put the money into their stock market because I believe it's gonna explode whenever that game.

SPEAKER_00 2:32:55

Oh dude, it's got to, bro. It's gotta explode because they've been working. I mean, how how many years now have they been working on this fucking new one? It's like a decade or some shit. It's like about six years almost. Fucking nuts, dude. Fucking crazy. So that motherfucker better be. I mean, it ought to be good, as much time as they put into it.

SPEAKER_05 2:33:14

I better be able to fill my taxes out on that game.

SPEAKER_00 2:33:17

Oh, hell yeah. But you know, but like me, I you know, I play video games online, but I don't like like most of the time when I play online, I do it in a private chat. Oh, hell divers, that's another one that my youngest son and I play. Play on uh Xbox. Xbox play. We should play sometime. Be cool. I love Helldivers.

SPEAKER_05 2:33:38

God damn, dude. Yeah, I spent like 40 bucks on it the other day just getting like the uh the stuff where you gotta buy the the quest things to be able to get the new uh what they call the the uh special things where you can like get a bomb out of the sky and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 2:33:52

Oh yeah. Well dude, and I tell you what, man, fucking hell divers is that dude, that's fucking rough. But I love hell divers too because it's It's a swing-off and kind of made after Halo. And Halo was my favorite game of all time, was the Halo franchise. And we I used to play I used to play video games online every night. We had we had a group of guys all over the United States, and we had some in Canada. We had one guy in Canada. So we had, let's see, we had a guy in Boston, uh, Washington, at Spokane, Washington. Then we had let's see, Canada. We had our local guys here that in Louisville, I had three buddies, and then we had some from Oklahoma, uh, one guy from Great Britain, uh, which we didn't play with him much because he was on a way different time zone. So I would play with him almost by myself. And then um, let's see, I know I'm missing some people. There's several others, but anyway, we played we played every night Halo, and we had one guy, he was handicapped on our team. He he was what was his name? Fearless shot. That was his gamer tag, and I tell you what, this kid, he I think he was wheelchair bound, he ended up passing away, which sucked. But um, but I tell you what, dude, this kid, I ain't never seen anybody snipe the way that motherfucker did. He could snipe a he could snipe a goddamn gnat off a gnat's ass from like across the map on Halo, and and he was proficient every time. He was a beast.

SPEAKER_01 2:35:35

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 2:35:36

Um, but he finally got sick, and then one day we I we just stopped seeing him for a while, and then one day my buddy said his mom got on and said, Hey, I just want to let y'all know he passed away, and I was like, Fuck man, he was such a cool dude. But we had so much fun, man. I mean, we had a the the the people from Oklahoma were they it was it was Papa Bear and Killer Bear was their son, and then sometimes the wife would get on a play, she was mama bear, so it we had like we had like a whole Goldilocks shit going on too, you know. And then we had we of course we had me and a couple people I worked with, and then people I grew up with, and then of course, like I say, the other guys, but and then what was cool was we played for like seven years, and all of a sudden, like we had we had guys like the one guy from Spoke in Washington, he was like, Hey Bones, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna come up and stay for like a week. So he just he he he came, he was flying in. So I go to the airport, and I had never met the guy in real life, I didn't even know what he fucking looked like. So I all I knew was what he sounded like. So I go to the airport and I'm holding this sign in his and of course his gamer tag was Bush Raider. So I'm holding this sign that says Bush Raider, waiting for this guy to come walk it up. And you know, here we had been playing known each other for like seven years, playing video games every night. And then this guy comes, and of course, he comes stays at my house, and of course, he stays at my buddy BK's house. And but while he was here, my my handicapped son got really sick and went in the hospital, so I didn't get to spend as much time with him. And but I mean he they even came up and visited my kid in the fucking hospital while he was there, yeah. And then he ended up going to my buddy BK's house and staying since I wasn't since we had to be in the hospital with Brandon, so that kind of sucked. But then I had a guy from Boston, he he came in, uh Beef Stew, all beef stew was his name, and he came in and he stayed for a fucking week, and we were riding around, man. We were riding around Louisville, and and uh all of a sudden he goes, He goes, You're fucking shitting me, man. And I go, what? And he goes, dude, is that really a fucking place? And I was like, I'm all looking around, like, what are you talking about, dude? And he goes, White castles really exist, and I go, Yeah, dude, that's a burger joint. And he goes, dude, I thought it was just a movie, and I go, no, dude, that's real. And he goes, dude, I have got to eat there, and I go, We will, and of course, we did, you know. And then, of course, when Bush was in town, I was driving, and we've got these smoke shops, and it's called Cox Smokers. So he was just like, he saw there's this great big fucking sign that says cock smokers outlet, and he's like, dude, we have gotta let me get a picture of this because people back home are not gonna believe this shit. So we're all like taking a picture under this big cock smokers outlet sign with him standing there, but it was so much fun, man. And even the guy from Great Britain, man, he did a um he did a month-long holiday, and his first stop was Louisville, so he stayed at the Brown Hotel, and he came in on the air airfield, they took him to the Brown, then I went and we we hung out with him for I think a day or two, and then he just started going place to place and did his his holida month-long holiday through America that he'd never been to before, so it was really fucking neat. So, video gaming, man, was yeah, I mean, some people think it's nerdy, and I guess it is. And if so, yeah, I'm a little bit of a nerd when it comes to that. That's fine, but it does make you like it, it's neat the relationships you kind of build, and it's kind of no different than this. I mean, look at me meeting you at a fucking mud park at a show and talking to you, and I'm still talking to you now. You know, we may not talk every day, but I still text you, we still talk, I still try to. If somebody's looking for a I'm like fucking check him out, check him out, check him out. So, like, I'm always fucking try throwing your name out there, and uh, and here we are. Now you're on a fucking podcast with me. Yeah, I think it's fucking just cool, man.

SPEAKER_05 2:39:50

I tell you what, man, this must have been insane. It's first off, my uh girlfriend, like four years we separated, she cheated. Oh, damn, dude. I'm sorry to hear that, bro. It is what it is, but the it gets worse. My buddy, my great buddy, one of my good buddies, he took his life like uh uh recent, yeah. Recent, very recent, like maybe like four weeks ago, three weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00 2:40:14

Oh my condolences, man.

SPEAKER_05 2:40:17

They had the I had the sing at his funeral, it was so hard.

SPEAKER_00 2:40:21

Oh my god. Well, I say did do it. Let's I say let's take one more moment of silence for Nancy and for what's your buddy's name? Gabe Barker. Dave Barker. Let's do a moment of silence for Dave and Barker and oh Gabe. Yeah, Gabe, Gabe Barker, excuse me. So let's do a moment of silence for Gabe Barker, who sadly tragically took his own life about a month or so ago, and then the passing of Miss Nancy Cassidy, uh, which I found out about just a couple days ago. The two two great people that left the earth way too soon. But let's do a quick moment of silence. Well, my condolences again, brother. Thank you, brother. I tell you what, man. But but again, Devin, much love to you, brother. And thanks for thanks for coming out on my show. I appreciate it. We will do a better job next time once I put all this colonoscopy shit to rest, and I can get my head back in the game and not on other shit.

SPEAKER_05 2:41:32

Let me know.

SPEAKER_00 2:41:33

Um, once you get settled with the band, send me some pictures, videos. We'll have you guys on. Let everybody chill, talk. Fucking you can have a jam session, maybe if we want to. It obviously works. And um, we can pick whatever platform you want to be on. You can either do it on mine or we can do it on Wolf's, it doesn't make any difference. Um, and uh thanks again for just for filling in for this show for me for this week because I needed to get some form of content in, and I didn't think I was going to with all the shit I gotta get done for the rest of the week. So that you really came in in a clutch, and I appreciate it, brother.

SPEAKER_05 2:42:07

I appreciate you inviting me on here.

SPEAKER_00 2:42:09

And again, say hi to your mom for me. She's a killer lady. Tell her congratulations on the TikTok and uh definitely send me the link because I'd like to follow her. I'd like to, I'd like to see what she's doing. So I'm on TikTok, I fuck around on TikTok all the time.

SPEAKER_05 2:42:23

Send me Wolf's uh Facebook page so I can have her on that.

SPEAKER_00 2:42:26

Oh, yeah, for sure. Absolutely, 100%, 100%. Well, um, I guess we're almost at the well 15 minutes away from the three-hour mark, so that's a pretty long show. So I guess we'll get ready, we'll wrap this up tonight. And I gotta take my sleep meds and get ready to do some nappy nappy and then wake up and start this process of pure bullshit, no pun intended, all fucking day. So it's I ain't gonna be able to get shit done tomorrow. But anyway, but thanks again. So anybody out there, again, this I think he's actually this way when you watch it, but uh over here, Devin Moore, check him out. Talented young man, he he oozes talent. He just recently started a new band, so we're gonna have to see what's gonna develop with all that. That's in an infancy stage, but I can't wait to see what they put out because you heard him just do a couple quick little things here. The the kid's got a set of pipes on him that's just something out of this world. So check out Devin Moore, he's gonna start working on a bunch of shit. We are gonna have him and the band back at some point in time, so stay tuned for that. We will give better notice next time. And um, and again, Devin, always a pleasure seeing you, my brother. You too, brother. Much love and respect to you, you too, brother. Well, that is uh we're gonna go ahead and wrap it up, ladies and gentlemen. So that's it for episode seven of the music edition of the Bones Podcast, Bones Unfiltered Podcast. I'm your host, Bones. Again, that young man, Devin Moore. Check him out. You may find your next favorite guy. He's got a voice, he's he's gonna go far, I promise you. So check him and his new guys out, and we look forward to the next episode when we have him on soon. Be good, my brother. You too, brother. And we're gonna end it. Well, now this shit popped up right right over my end stream. All right, we're fixing to end it here in just a second. So this is a wrap. Have a good night, my brother. You too, brother. I see you. Yes, sir. I'm trying to end it, but it won't end. There it is. That he's fucking