Is What is on My Heart from God?

How do you know if the thing on your heart is from God?

Is this idea His… or mine?
Am I stepping out in faith—or getting ahead of Him?
What if I miss His will completely?

For many of us, the fear of getting it wrong can feel paralyzing. We want to be obedient. We want to listen well. We want to follow God’s lead—but the path isn’t always clear, and the silence can feel unsettling. Sometimes we hesitate because we’re afraid of moving too fast. Other times we push forward because waiting feels impossible.

In this episode of Wine Into Water, we step into the tension that so many people carry quietly: the tension between running ahead of God and lagging behind Him. Through honest conversation and personal stories, we explore what it looks like to discern God’s voice in the middle of ordinary decisions—starting something new, taking a risk, responding to a nudge, or simply wondering what faithfulness requires in this season.

We talk about the pressure to “get it right,” the fear of making the wrong move, and the deep desire to live in step with God. We wrestle with the reality that discernment is rarely dramatic or obvious. More often, it unfolds slowly through trust, obedience, and the courage to take the next small step without having the whole picture.

Together, we consider a different way of thinking about God’s will—not as a fragile plan we can easily ruin, but as a relationship with a God who guides, redirects, and stays with us even when we’re uncertain. What if faith isn’t about perfect clarity, but about willingness? What if obedience sometimes looks like moving forward before we feel completely sure?

This episode is for anyone who has asked:
Is this desire from God or just from me?
What if I make the wrong decision?
How do I trust God when the direction isn’t obvious?

Whether you’re discerning a calling, considering a new opportunity, or simply trying to follow God faithfully in the everyday choices of life, this conversation offers reassurance that you don’t have to figure everything out before you begin. Sometimes the next faithful step is simply to move—and trust that God will meet you there.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Sometimes we pray for the miracles. We wait for the breakthrough, the healing, the answered prayer. And when it doesn't come, when life feels ordinary, heavy, or quiet, we wonder if something is wrong. We read about water turning into wine, but most of us are living in seasons where it feels like the opposite. Where the celebration fades and the glass feels empty. Where faith isn't dramatic, it's dishes in the sink, laundry that never ends, prayers whispered into the silence. But what if the miracle was never the point? What if what we're really longing for isn't the wine, but the living water? The presence of Jesus in the middle of the Monday. The abundance that doesn't depend on circumstances. This is a podcast for seasons that feel unmiraculous. For the questions we carry quietly. For the faith that keeps showing up, even when nothing changed. Welcome to Wine Into Water. I'm your co-host, Jen Asklin. And I'm your other co-host, Lydia Rosencreve. We're two women who have been asking questions, nobody seems to be answering. Questions about faith in seasons when life can feel unmiraculous.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

And we kept having these conversations, just the two of us, and we realized we can't be the only ones who are asking these questions.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

So we decided to invite you into the conversation. We're so glad you're here. What comes up as you hear this question?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Oh my gosh. Um, so much. And I feel like it's a constant, right? Like if it's God's will, if it's God's will, if it's God's will. Um but I think that what where I struggle is an attention of be still and know that I am God. And I mean, like pick any verse, like the Great Commission, you know, go and make disciples. Um there is I and I I feel it, I I really don't think that I'm alone in this. I really don't. Um there is a fear sometimes that I'm going to get ahead of God. And there is a fear that I'm going to lag behind him. And living in the tension of that um is extremely difficult.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Uh I am a run ahead of God always. Um it's a problem because I am just action-oriented in general. And so it's funny. It can be something as simple as this is not God related, this is life related, but it can be as simple as like, hey, Eric, I would really love a frozen pizza for lunch. And so he will turn on the oven and he will get the pizza and he will bake the pizza and he will get the cutting board out to cut the pizza, and I will walk over and pick up the pizza cutter, and he will just look at me and be like, are you really taking over again? It's like a pro it's a problem in my life. But the scary thing is, I do the same thing with God. But I think there is this dynamic of I just think that I can do it. I think that I could do it maybe better. I think I could do it faster. And so I just cannot resist the urge to pick up the pizza cutter, um, metaphorically. And so I'm never really worried that I'm not doing the thing. More often than not, it looks like is the thing I'm doing the thing he told me to do or not.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

I like to think that if I get ahead, he will him me in, right? And I actually I found a verse, um Isaiah 30, 21. Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears were will hear a voice behind you saying, This is the way, walk in it. And so I like to think that if I take that step, that first step of faith, that you know, he's gonna hem me in if I go the wrong direction. And that's great for, I mean, let's just take this podcast, for example, right? Um, it was a step of faith for us to start this. And it maybe some time was involved, right? But honestly, if we made a mistake with this, it neither of our lives is going to be greatly impacted by that, right? But when you start thinking about the major decisions, like, am I marrying the right person? Is this, you know, what if what if I get a job offer in a different city? Is God calling me to move and leave and take this job? Um, which college should I go to? You know, um it there's just the when I start to think about the big decisions, it's like, well, yeah, he could still him me in, but if I move to a whole different city and take a different job, right? You're in it. You know, there's a there's the hymning is gonna be different there, right? Um, and so I mean, I'm like you, I am action-oriented, like I will get ahead of him a long most of the time. I'm ahead of him. I'm not sitting on the sidelines waiting. But that has its own cost.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

I also, so what made this question come up for me is I listened to um a sermon, and it was talking about the psalm David wrote about create a me and clean heart, oh God. And I think it was modeled after one Craig Rochelle did, but about how your heart can deceive you because your heart is not clean. And so this wrestling with, well, if it's a desire of my heart, is that inherently bad? And the scripture that I found that stuck with me on that one is was Psalm 37 delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you all the desires of your heart.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

And so wrestling between those two, and part of it, which I think you'll appreciate, is being an entrepreneur in this space and really wanting to partner with God in this adventure. How do you know whether the thing you're trying to do is the thing that he's asking you to do or not asking you to do? And with the podcast, I felt in my meditation, like I was really clear. Hey, you should do a podcast. And I had a number of reinforcements. So some things to me are very clear cut, other things are me meandering around and trying to say, is that was that you God? Was that not you? I don't, I'm not sure what to do with this. And then maybe it's I'm not running behind, but maybe to your point earlier, then it's am I being disobedient by not doing this thing that may or may not be from God and I'm not clear on it? And there are times when he comes in with a booming voice and I am convicted and I know what I gotta go do. And then there are other times where it's almost like waves washing over the shore in the ocean, and the thing just kind of continues to resurface. And I just look at it and I wonder, ah, is that a thing or is that not a thing?

SPEAKER_01 8:56

So much there, John, that is so rich. Um personal story, I won't give details, but um, I had I felt like God was calling me to step out in faith on something that was, I mean, it wasn't as significant as you know, moving or quitting my job or anything like that, but it was fairly significant. And I I really spent a long period of time praying. Uh, you know, I asked my husband to pray with me. I had other people praying for me. I really, really tried to discern. And I finally said, you know, it's this is for God. Um, I'm gonna trust that He has said this. And I stepped out. And it ended up not being a very good situation, Jen. It ended up fairly quickly. Um I had to step back out. But I don't necessarily know that that means that I didn't understand him or that I misheard, because there's so many positive things that have come out of that situation. There's so many people I met through that situation that I wouldn't have that other or you know, I guess he can arrange a meeting anyway, but I mean that he but that I mean people that I now consider to be some of my closest friends came or came to me because of that situation. So, but I I will be honest, there are still times that I think about it when like, did I mishear? You know, did I do something wrong? Did I not spend enough time in prayer about that? Um You were really right when you said we had no answers today. But I would I would love to know like if you've had a similar situation, um, and what you felt like God was telling you through that.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

There's maybe there's two things that come up for me. So um the first is during COVID, we were living in Texas and um we had built this beautiful lake home because the city felt really loud and we needed quiet. And so we built this home with the intention of we would wake up every morning and see the sunrise. Like we would get to see his beauty every morning when we opened our eyes when we were out there. But over a relatively short period of time, it became an anchor for us and a money pit and a whole lot of not good, right? And we live in Iowa now, and part of that story is we felt a really strong call that we were supposed to be in Iowa. And the verse that would come up for me again and again, and as I was spending time in prayer, was sell all of your things and follow me. And so we sold that house with everything in it the furniture, the dishes, the coffee pot, the towels, like all of it. Um and what was fascinating about that experience was the couple who bought it had a home five hours away. They drove up the the second day it was on the market. And we got to meet Jimmy and Lisa later. And Lisa said, what's wild is we were supposed to close on land on that lake the day after your property went on the market. Oh my god. And we were supposed to build a house. And the floor plan to the house we were going to buy is your floor plan. And let me show you my current home because your decor is my decor. I just use aqua as my accent color and you use navy. And Jimmy's had a lot of health issues, and I wasn't sure that he had it in him for us to build another house. And when I stepped out onto your dock, I could see my grandchildren's house across the cove. And she goes, I don't know why, but God had you build this house for us. Wow. And like I was so clear on like God and his timing and his presence in that situation. And I think like the desire was real, like to go build this house was real.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

But it turned out like we weren't building it for us. Like we built it for people we didn't know who were supposed to live there. And so, like, situations like that, I can look back on and be like, I saw your echoes, I listened to the call, I was obedient, right? There have been other things. So, like the counterexample I would give is I'm building this business and I I'm pretty clear on things he's asked me to go do in my business. And then I was at a networking event, and someone was like, Well, I kind of like this thing that you're doing, but I want a blend of these two things. And so, can you go create this new thing? And I sat and I was like, Well, I could do anything. And I happened to be on a training later that week, and there was a girl on the training, and her um her feedback was, you know, I knew the thing that I needed to do. And instead of doing that thing, I chose to do like a smaller version of that thing instead. And it just wasted a bunch of time and a bunch of resource, and I ended up having to kill it to go do the thing that I should have done in the first place. And I remember sitting there thinking, like, oh, not me. I'm surely not doing that. And then four months later, I had to kill the thing because I'm like, oh, I yes, I know that's not what you asked me to do. You asked me to do this other thing that by the way I still haven't done. Um and so I don't know. I think like those would be my stories. Like there are times when I get a booming voice and I am so clear about it. And there are other times where I'm just like, well, maybe I'm supposed to do that. They asked for it. Maybe that is the thing that I am supposed to do. And then I'm just like, oh, like that's not at all what I was asked to do. I am doing it to avoid the other thing that I know I should be doing. Like I'm having my own Jonah moment where I'm just like, I hear you, but I'm gonna go do this other thing first. And eventually I think it just comes back and he's like, come on. I like I told you to, I told you to do the thing.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Yeah. Um I've had I had one experience where um God actually, I truly believe that God spoke to me out loud. And that's the only time he's ever done that. It it makes me wish that he would do it more often. Um, but it was he basically said, you're gonna adopt internationally. And and my husband and I we hadn't been married all that long. We weren't thinking about a family at that point. And within a week, we had signed with an adoption agency. And then nine months later we brought him two kids. And now we have 13 children, and 11 of those are adopted. So I think like I'm like, well, God just knew if he was gonna start the ball rolling on that, he had to be really clear, right? Because it wasn't it wasn't on my radar.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Um did you and did you intend to adopt that many children? Or did it just snowball?

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Yeah, it's it's snowballed. It's snowballed. Like, you know, we were we were adopting the two, and we were like, oh my goodness, no special needs. And now we have like a child that's complete and total full care. I mean, you know, it's us, it's us making plans and God laughing. And um, yeah, he's no, there was definitely no intention. Our last child, um, our youngest, yeah, I hit I met his mom leaving Walmart. Um, right. So like you just you just never know. Um so it's like I like I like that because I'll tell you what, Jen, when it got hard, and it has gotten hard many times, right? When it has gotten hard, I can always go back and say, I know this was God's will. Like there's no question it was God's will. He spoke out loud. So even when it's hard, I know that it's God's will. It's it's but most of the time he's just not that clear, right? And so that's when the doubts and the woulda shutta cuddhas um sometimes start creeping in. Um and I mean I have this quote of it's not a it's not a Bible verse, but I have this quote that's like the you know, the Christian life is basically, you know, we think the Christian life is like walking up a mountain and it, you know, and the horizon is widening and and it's just lovely. And it's like, nope, nope, the Christian life is like wandering around in the woods with no path and getting caught in the brambles, and you don't know if you're going in circles and you don't know if you've actually made any progress. But it ends with saying that's the light that God smiles on. And I guess my question is, why? Why is that the light that God smiles on? Um, is it because we're completely dependent on him? You know, when we feel like we're lost in the woods, right? When we're lost in the wilderness. Um we're we're we're we're hoping that he'll walk beside us, we're hoping that he'll guide us, we're praying for that. I don't know. Um why does it have to be so hard, Jen? Maybe that's our question.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

I think that's right. I like I think about the Israelites in the wilderness and the pillars of cloud and the pillars of fire. And if I could just have a pillar to follow around, would that not be so much easier? Um and then sometimes I think maybe that's not the point. Yeah, maybe the point was he was with them wherever, wherever they went. Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

And and you know, we have that, right? Like we we are so much more blessed than they were because he lives inside of us. Like we don't need that, we shouldn't need that, right? Because he lives inside of us, and yet I'm exactly like you. I'm like, God, give me a pillar. Yeah, I you know, but the thing is, Jen, is I would be just like the Israelites. Um if I didn't want to do it, I'd you know, I'd even with something as clear as that, I could still be disobedient. I know myself well enough to know that.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Um part of this question, right, is you have these seeds of desire that are in your heart. What are some of the ways you think about filtering them or screening them or sifting them to know what's yours and what's God's?

SPEAKER_01 20:58

You went a totally different direction than I was expecting at the end of that question. So I was expecting, how do you know if it's from God or if it's just your own selfish desires? But that's not that I don't think that's what you're asking. Is that what you're asking? What do you think I'm asking? I think you're asking, I the what I heard, okay, maybe that was what you're asking. And what but what I heard was, what's mine to do and what's God's to do? Which I think is also an equally important question, right? Because even if so, if we start with the first question, my what I was thinking you were asking, which is probably what you were asking, but it's not where my mind went. Um let's say that I do discern that it's gods, right? And and I'll and I I'm happy to give you a couple of things that I think about to determine that. But if I do determine that it's gods, I do struggle with. With what's mine and what's his. Um quite a bit. Quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

But I think so. I was on the first. How do you know it's God versus your desire? But I think you just named the question for our next episode, because I also have that question.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

Let's save that then, because I think that's a really good question. I think as women, um, I mean, as women, we and I mean men too, but I really feel like, you know, Jesus was so intentional in his relationships with women because they were so marginalized in Jewish society at the time. Um, every single one of us has Mary and Martha in us, right? We're we're Mary and Martha at the same time. We're the prodigal son and we're the good brother, right? Like we're we're both in almost every story that he tells. We're the one who who uses our talents and we're the one who buries our talents. I mean, we're, you know, I can see myself at different times in every single parable. So yes, let's put, let's, let's carry that to the next episode because I can get really would be good. Um, as far as discerning whether it's from God, I mean, I think our number one go-to has always got to be comparing it to his word. I mean, his word, it he does, I mean, he never contradicts his word. He never, ever, ever contradicts his word. And Jen, that in a world where everything feels gray most of the time, knowing that God never changes is so that just gives my heart so much comfort, so much comfort. So I can know without a doubt that if I have a thought of doing something and it contradicts something in his word, it's not true. Right. Um I really was touched by your story of the lakehouse. Because I wonder sometimes is another thing that I do, do I say, well, how does this benefit me? Right. Um, with and that's definitely not what I should be asking, but I'm sure that I do. Um and your story of I'm and I'm sure that you all in some way, um, you know, it all works together for a good. I'm sure in some way your family benefited from that house, but but that you truly believe that he called you to build it for somebody else and to be so at peace with that. Um that that really I find that to be amazing.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

Uh part of that is distance and time. It is the only house that I have sold, and I've sold plenty that I was hysterical driving away from the last time because I loved it, and I also knew it wasn't mine. But I think you hit on a really important maybe filter is if the desire we have is self-serving, that's probably not God. And if it is serving something or someone outside of ourselves, it might be.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

And I do, you know, I I want to be careful, and I know this is not what you're saying. I want to be careful because I think as women, we get um hummeled over the head with um serving others, right? And making, you know, to the point where it's like, well, you can't do anything to make yourself happy. And that's not our good pop, right? No. I want it, yeah. So I just I just wanted to make, I know that's not what you were saying. Um I wanted, I just wanted to add that in that it's okay. I think it's okay to want things that make us happy, right? That bring us joy. But I I love how you said, I because I think you said it exactly right. I just want to make sure everybody hears it right. You said self-serving, right? And that's different. Um, and I think that you're absolutely right. Say more about I'm gonna bitch on the spot on this one, I think. If it's for the benefit of somebody else, if it's serving somebody else, it might be from God. Do you have any wisdom on how we tell?

SPEAKER_00 27:08

So maybe there's a couple of things. If you like if you go back to the beginning, he told Adam to work the land. But the actual translation isn't work, it's serve. And I think you're right in it's not that we don't deserve things that make us joyful. I think it's more the the thought that it is better to give than to receive. Like in the service of others, done with a heart of service, a get-to, not a got to, right? We end up being the ones who are served in the process. And so maybe it's like it's uh maybe it says something about the condition of our heart. Because I think where we get burnt out as women is when we start to view that service as a have to or got to or obligation, which then I think just sows seeds, seeds of resentment for me is what happens. And you burn out, and then I keep I start keeping score, right? And then that's that's self-serving for me, and not not a healthy, like God given way, right? And so I think maybe it's a screen, but it's not the only screen. I think you're right on checking scripture because his word doesn't change, his heart doesn't change, what he wants doesn't change, like it's been the same the whole time, and maybe more explicitly, like God will never lead you into sin. No, no, and as women, I think we probably are collective greatest disobedience is keeping the Sabbath. I I'm a Martha too, right? Like hardcore. Um and I think as I think about the things I try to do, the desires of my heart, I wonder how many of those pull me away from the rest that he built us for to rest in him.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

Yeah, I mean I I even they're a struggle, right? Like there's no question that he wants me to spend time with him. But he at the same time, if I you know, if I start to say, well, I need to quit my job so that I can spend time with the Lord. Well, no, I don't think that that's what he's asking, right? Um, because I have a family to provide for. And and so um, but the truth is that I can spend time with the Lori no matter what I'm doing. Right. It's a heart posture, it's not a it's not a body posture. And um, it's it's not that he's forgotten me while I'm busy working, it's that sometimes I forget it.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Um I had I had a woman once who was also a like run ahead of Jesus person, and she talked about how their house didn't have a dishwasher and how she loathed hand washing dishes, but she had no choice because that is the home that they lived in. Right. And so one of the spiritual practices that she put into her life was for every dish she washed, she said a prayer for someone else and turned this mundane terrible task of hand washing dishes into a sacred time with her savior. And I think maybe that's a practice to help you just commune with him in mundane moments.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

Yeah, I wonder how many of the things that we see as um burdens are really host gifts if we just opened our eyes. The things that I feel like slow me down. Yeah, they may act that may be absolutely what he was trying that may be the purpose that he's trying to slow me down. Yeah, right, because I'm sometimes I'm so busy working for him that I don't really spend any time with him.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Um have you read the book with? I had not, but I have heard of it. So it's um the concept is there's all of these different postures that we take in our relationship with God. Like it could be life over God. I'm gonna do what the world says, right? And God's this thing that I'll do on Sundays, or life from God, like he's a genie in a bottle that you can just ask for things from, or life for God, like you're just gonna focus on the works and the service and right, um, or life under God, which is like legalism, right? And I'm just gonna follow all the laws, and he's told me what to do, and so I'm just going to like follow all the laws, and the the point of the whole book is all he ever wanted to do is be with you. So maybe that's part of the lens. Like the thing that's coming up for me is is the thing you are desiring does it move you closer to him or further away from him? If like all he wants is to be with us.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

And while you were talking, the other thing that came up for me um was Romans 8, 1. You know, now there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. And that has been a really important verse for me. And not because I felt like I committed, I mean, I have committed grief very egregious sins. But it wasn't those things that necessarily, I mean, like, oh yeah, you know, God, God could forgive that, right? But sometimes it's the little things where I feel like he's so disappointed in me. Like, um, they it could be big, but it could also just be really small. And I'm like, oh, you know, I really let him down on that. And the truth is, Jen, he's never disappointed in me. He is never ever disappointed in me. Number one, he knows he knew everything I was gonna do before I was even born, right? So nothing has taken him by surprise, and he's not disappointed. But he says it in his words, and so I beat myself up all the time and literally think, oh, he's so disappointed. And he's never disappointed. And and I at least now I'm to the point now where I can remind myself of that. I'm not to the point where I've stopped saying it to myself that he's disappointed, but I'm to the point now where I can immediately counter it with that burst and say, he's not disappointed. That's a lot, that's a lot. Um I can turn back and I can repent and I can say I'm sorry, and I can ask him to put a clean part in me, like he was saying. Um, but he's not independent. And so I think there's more freedom to follow him than we sometimes allow ourselves. You know, we get so caught up in constantly, does God want me to do this, or does God want me to do this, or does God, you know, shouldn't I suppose to be this or am I supposed to be this? And I think what you said, I think there, I definitely think there are times that he has planned and he moves us in that direction. But I think sometimes he's not worried about whether I go to this mall or that mall. As long as I'm going with him, right?

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Um I think that's right. First, I would say I wonder how many women listening needed to hear what you tell yourself. But he's not, he's never disappointed in you. And I it felt like that practice that you have is such a great example of taking every thought captive and making it obedient to him. It's such a beautiful example to that. And I think you're right in he gave us free will for a reason. And not every decision needs to be weighed on, like, do I do it or do I not do it? Um, because all he wants is to just be with us in the doing. I can remember being in a Bible study at one point, and this woman talking about how every time she goes to buy an article of clothing, a shirt from the store, she sits there and asks permission on God, do you want me to buy the shirt? Do you not want to be with by the shirt? And I think I what came up for me at the time is just, but he I don't think that that was the point. Like he he wants he wants you to be free, not you don't have to mother may I him, right? He just wants your heart. And he knows that you need to wear clothes, and it's okay to buy a new shirt.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Yeah, yes, yes. And if you're doing that with the spirit of, oh my gosh, Lord, I love you so much. What do you think of this collar on me? Like if you know, if you're if you're if you were as if you're with your mother or your father, right? And it's it's like I'm enjoying the shopping experience with you, that's one thing. But if it's he's gonna be so disappointed in me if I spend this money and and it wasn't his will for me to do it, right? Like that's where we get into the legalism that I think steals average joy. Um, and I know we probably need to wrap up pretty soon. And so I want to just piggyback off one thing that you said, and then um um I would love for you to pose this. Um, when you said the the free will, right? There was a verse. I don't, I mean, it's like I've read Genesis, I don't know how many times in my life, right? But I really only this year did I key in on it. Um, and it was where he put Adam in the garden. This is before Eve, put Adam in the garden and he brought all the animals, and he's and it says God waited to see what he would name them. And I'm like, well, God knew what Adam was gonna name them, right? But what I what I get from that is number one, he gave us free will, he gave us creativity, he gave us desires. And I think that he actually wants us to partner with him to do things, to do work. And he's, I feel like when I when I read that, I could almost see him like sitting on his throne in heaven, like bending down, like, what's he gonna do? What like we are with our toddlers, like, what's he gonna do? What's he gonna do? What's he gonna put out with his Legos, right? I think that God is that way about us too. And um, I think we forget that our Heavenly Father takes a great deal of joy in us, and he takes joy in our choices. He he's I like I said, I don't think that he's that every single decision, he's like, she's gonna get this wrong, she's gonna get this right, right? Like, I don't think there's always a wrong or right. Adam could have named elephants anything he wanted to name them, and God would have been, that's their name, right? Um I just love that.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Uh, it made me giggle. I have a former colleague who allowed her four-year-old son to name their dog, and they are now the proud owner of Donut Sprinkles.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

I love that though. It's gotta bring her so much joy every time she says it.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Yeah. I think about how amazing that would be to just be sitting there and being like, wait, I get to name them. Um, and so I think you're right. I think it's a beautiful perspective. And it's a great tie-in to our next episode on how do you know what is God's to do and what is ours to do? Because you're right. On one hand, it says, be still and know that I am God. And on the other, in a number of places, it very clearly says, Hey, go do the work. Um so I think that's a great place to end. And I am we're gonna try new ending today, but we are just going to offer a prayer to all of you who are listening. And so um join us while we pray over you. Lord, thank you for this space, for this conversation, for this reminder that you are never disappointed in us. Lord, we are constantly seeking your guidance. And it was so good to be reminded today that, Lord, you delight in us and you want to give us the desires of our heart. And Lord, we know those things are from you when they move us closer to being with you. Lord, it's it's so easy to forget that all you ever wanted was our heart to be with us in the doing, in the going, in the washing of dishes. And so, Lord, I just ask that you remind all of these women of that, that your delight is in them and with them, and you find joy in watching them create the things that they were meant to create and the beautiful creation that you allow us to live at. Lord, let us be reminded of your ridiculous kindness to us toward us and Lord, be with us as if. go in the doing that they may find more moments with you. It's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen.