What is Mine to Do and What is God's?

What is mine to do and what is God’s?

When life feels heavy, uncertain, or out of control, it can be hard to know where our responsibility ends and God’s begins. We want to be faithful. We want to act. We want to fix what’s broken, solve the problem, and carry the weight well. But somewhere along the way, many of us start carrying burdens that were never ours to hold.

Should I try harder?
Do more?
Wait longer?
Let go?

In this episode of Wine Into Water, we explore the tension between effort and surrender—the quiet struggle of discerning what faithfulness actually looks like in the middle of real life. Through honest conversation and personal reflection, we wrestle with the difference between obedience and control, responsibility and over-responsibility, trust and striving.

We talk about the pressure to hold everything together, the exhaustion that comes from trying to manage outcomes we can’t control, and the subtle ways fear can disguise itself as diligence. We also consider the freedom that comes when we begin to release what was never ours to carry in the first place.

Together, we ask a simple but powerful question: What if faithfulness isn’t about doing everything, but about doing the right things—and trusting God with the rest?

This episode is for anyone who feels overwhelmed, stretched thin, or unsure where to draw the line between action and surrender. It’s for the person who is trying to be responsible, faithful, and strong—but is quietly wondering why it still feels so heavy.

Whether you’re navigating a difficult decision, carrying concern for someone you love, or learning to trust God with outcomes you can’t control, this conversation offers a gentle invitation to lay down the weight that was never yours to carry—and to step into the peace that comes from partnering with God instead of replacing Him.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Sometimes we pray for the miracles. We wait for the breakthrough, the healing, the answered prayer. And when it doesn't come, when life feels ordinary, heavy, or quiet, we wonder if something is wrong. We read about water turning into wine, but most of us are living in seasons where it feels like the opposite. Where the celebration fades and the glass feels empty. Where faith isn't dramatic, it's dishes in the sink, laundry that never ends, prayers whispered into the silence. But what if the miracle was never the point? What if what we're really longing for isn't the wine, but the living water? The presence of Jesus in the middle of the Monday. The abundance that doesn't depend on circumstances. This is a podcast for seasons that feel unmiraculous. For the questions we carry quietly. For the faith that keeps showing up, even when nothing changes. Welcome to Wine in to Water. I'm your co-host, Jen Asklin. And I'm your other co-host, Lydia Rosencreve. We're two women who have been asking questions, nobody seems to be answering. Questions about faith and seasons when life can feel unmiraculous.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

And we kept having these conversations, just the two of us, and we realized we can't be the only ones who are asking these questions.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

So we decided to invite you into the conversation. We're so glad you're here.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

In our last episode, Chen and I talked about how do you know if the thing or the dream or the idea, um, the plan in your heart is from God. And we got a little teeny bit derailed when we started talking about what is God's and what is mine to do. And so we decided that rather than letting that hijack the entire episode, we would make that a new episode and ask that question and discuss that question. And so our question for today is how do I know what's mine? And how do I know what's God's? Um, and so, Jen, as I was thinking about this, um, I was led to, you know, I we always want to go to the Bible first, right? Because God's word is the definitive answer for everything. Um, and I was thinking about what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 3, um, where you know, the church was having some, the Corinthian church was a mess, um, much like many of the organizations that we deal with today, a lot of dysfunction. And so there were people who were kind of going into factions, and some people said, you know, I I follow Paul, and some people's like, I follow Apollos. And and, you know, Paul came back and he's like, Look, you know, I did my part, and Apollos did has done his part. But the truth is, is that no matter what either one of us have done, it's God who brings the increase, right? So they the it was an agricultural society. Um, so they understood this idea of somebody planted and somebody watered, but the truth is that at the end of the day, it's God that that um blesses the growth and brings the growth. And so when I think about um I I guess I tend to err on um and take on too much and say it's mine and I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to be doing this, I should do this, I should do this, I have to do this, I need to do this. Um and I don't, it's not intentional, and I bet with a lot of our listeners, it's not either. But I get into this mindset where um it's like, well, if I don't do it, nobody's gonna do it. And if I don't if I don't do it, all the balls are gonna drop. Um and sometimes I I have this feeling that our loving Heavenly Father is is is just watching me from heaven going, well, maybe she'll ask for help eventually. Maybe it'll get too heavy eventually, right? And he's so um he's so patient that he doesn't bulldoze his way in, right? He doesn't he he that's just not who he is. And so I know that sometimes he's gotta just be sitting up there watching me going when is she gonna come to the end of this and realize that she can't do it all by herself.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Yeah, I think that that resonates with me and probably a lot of women. I think we take on the world because I think we have this belief if if we don't do it, then like no one else will. And as I thought about this question, it feels like that's like one extreme of the scale. Like, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta do it, I gotta control the outcome, I gotta make it happen, right? Uh, listeners, we had this whole conversation before we got on about how each of us have lived lives on that side of the spectrum. But I think there's like also this other spectrum that people find themselves in, which is God's got it. God's got it. And I'm just gonna like trust that God's got it. And I think our pastor preached on this at one point, but he's like, you should pray to God if you were unemployed for a job. Like you should allow God to intervene on your behalf. And also, if you never apply for a job, you're not going to get one. And so I think there's just like maybe this spectrum of like everything depends on me, and the other is everything depends on God. And it feels like the truth maybe lives somewhere in the middle, and that it's definitely not all us. Like we've had enough in our lives happen to know that there are things that have happened that we could not possibly have controlled or orchestrated for ourselves. But I also think the Bible is very clear in that, like you have to do the work. Like, you can't just sit and pray. You have you have to you have to actually do the work. I think as far back as Eden, right? When he's like, Adam, get to work, till the land, right? And I I think it's how how do you live in that middle space and choose well what is your part to do, what you need to plant, what you need to water, and what you need to like let God do because he's God.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Well, I think you defined it very well, Jen. Um, because I think that most of us don't live on the extremes, right? Like, um, I think most of us live somewhere in that messy middle. Yeah. Um it's like, I love your job example, right? I mean, yes, we have to apply for a job and we have to trust God. I think where I struggle in in that I'm not looking for a job right now, so I'm just gonna put myself in that position for a second. Um I have no doubt, like in the big overall picture of things, like I don't have any doubt that God has a plan for my life. I don't have any doubt that God had ordered every step of my life before I was even created. Like, I don't doubt what the Bible says, that every day was written in his book. And yet I can put myself in, think about if I were job searching, I can almost see myself starting to feel this need to control the the the whole thing. Like if I don't, if I make a spelling error in my cover letter, I've blown it, right? Or if I don't put if I don't put the exact right thing on the resume that the AI algorithm is looking for, it's not gonna happen. And so I would I would start to get almost paralyzed of how many times do I need to reread this cover letter before I actually upload it and submit it? And so there becomes this this point where what I know in my head about God, and yet how I operationalize that in the trust that I show in my life, there's a disconnect.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

So Seth Godin is this writer on creativity, and I love reading his stuff or listening to it. He like records his own audiobooks, which I treasure. But he um he talks about teaching people to juggle, and he talks about how like most people when they learn to juggle focus on catching. And he goes, the problem with that is when like you're focused on the catch, it puts you out of position for the next throw. And so what he teaches people is that what matters is the throwing, and when the throwing gets good enough, like the catching will take care of itself. And so the the way I don't know that I framed that in my life related to this, is I feel like the throwing are like our feeble attempts to do the work. And like our only job is to do the work and to get better at doing the work. And if we get really good at doing the work, whether it's beating the AI algorithm or meeting the right people or applying for the right job or like connecting with the right people, like whatever, right? Like whatever you're throwing is, um, then the catching will take care of itself. And I think for me, it's been this all I can do is do what I've been called to do, but I can't control the outcome because like ultimately, like that's God's. And where I find myself getting into that control cycle fear loop is when I start to try to control outcomes and I let it get in the way of me doing the good work because I'm hyper-fixated on achieving, achieving the outcome. It kind of like reminds me of that positive intelligence. Like, I think the sage question for like achiever is how do you make the journey more enjoyable? But there's something about doing the work and getting better at doing the work and then releasing control over the outcome, which is like very hard for me to do because I would like to control everything at all times. But there's something in that, like you just gotta do the work and you have to like release your control, air quote, um, over the outcome because it's it's an illusion at best.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

Oh, there's no doubt. Um, and I think obviously seeing that you're in that loop, right, is a big part of the battle. Because I I think for years I didn't even recognize that I was trying that I wasn't trusting. Like if you'd asked me, Lydia, do you trust God? I would have been like, oh my gosh, yes. Look at my life, look at the crazy things I've done. Um, it's all been about trusting God. And it took me a long time to realize that I was just like you, I was in that, I was trying to control the outcome. Um so part of it is rec, I think, is recognizing that you're trying to control the outcome or whatever that looks like. And and as we were talking about before we even got on here today, it moves. Like it looks different in different seasons. And you might think, hey, I've conquered that. And then all of a sudden you realize it's shown up in a it's like a weed that's like like migrated across your yard and has now shot up in a different part, and you didn't even recognize it because it wasn't where it was before, right? Um so part of it is is recognizing it. But I think I'm at the place where, and maybe there are some other women out there that are in this place where, well, I okay, I see that I do this, I have no idea how to change it, how to fix it, how to get out of the loop. So do you have what's worked for you, Jen, to get yourself out of it once you recognize you're in it?

SPEAKER_01 14:00

I don't know that I have a great answer to that. Um because I think it's constantly a temptation, I think is what it is. Yeah. And a temptation to to be my own God, maybe, if that makes sense. Oh, absolutely. And so I think you're right in like recognizing it as maybe the first piece of it, but I think it's not just a loop that you get in, it's a loop that like you return to throughout your life. And if I think about times where I've gotten in that loop, and like, what did I do? If I'm on that side of the equation, and like let's be honest, we're trying to be God, we're trying to control outcomes.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Um, I that like the verse that I go back to in those seasons is always like, be still and know that I am God.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Or like the Lord will fight for you. You only need to be still. And so I think it's back to like this continuum of action where what it feels like on that side for me is hustle and striving. And that's normally how I know that I've gotten myself in a place of trying to control outcomes. And I think for me, it's what do I need to do to like stop the doing? Like I've over, I've I've to done all of the doing, and I need to just like I need to be still. And maybe that helps me refocus on well, like, what like what is the work that God gave me to do here? And am I doing that work faithfully? There was uh our like local Christian radio station, Life 107.1, does these like uplifting, uplifting words for the day. And one of them was like from this woman, and she's like, ask God what to do, and then do only that and nothing else. And I remember hearing it and being like, that's so wise. And also, I'm not sure that that's possible for me.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

I mean, if God, you know, downloaded my daily list of things, you know, here's your task for today, Lydia. Maybe. Maybe. What have you found? Well, those to my phone though. Right. How how do you get yourself out of the loop? Can I can I say something else that I feel like the spirit is is asking me to say, and then I'll I'll I'll try to answer that. I don't know that I have any, I don't think I have a good answer either. But I think something that's important to acknowledge here, Jen, is this a sin that is actually encouraged. Um, and I think even encouraged by the church, whether intentionally or not. Um we were, you know, before this, we were talking about an alcoholic who knows every day is I have to, you know, every every single day I'm gonna have the temptation to drink and I have to fight that. And every, you know, everybody in the church would be like, we are on your side. We are gonna help. Yeah, you drinking, you know, drinking to excess is is is unhealthy, and we're gonna be right here beside you. I don't think that we see um busyness and working and thinking that we need to because it comes from a place a lot of times of I need to make sure that everybody in my life is taken care of. I need to make sure that you know nobody gets hurt or you know, everybody has what they need. I don't think we see it or recognize it as unhealthy the way that we would say drug use or alcohol use, right? And I think even the church promotes this idea that women should be busy, um, that we should be juggling all the balls and handling all the tasks, and this is God called us to be. And um I think that makes it harder to get out of the the cycle when we're putting again, I don't think it's intentional, but we're putting unin we're giving women, especially women, unintentional messages that this is who you should be. This is this is how God created you. You are supposed to take care of everybody else, you are supposed to be responsible for the outcomes. I mean, honestly. And so I think that makes it harder to step back and say, so I I mean, I love be still. I know that I'm God as well. I'm not sure that I really understand what the be still in that means, Jen, because it it doesn't mean like what you said earlier, don't apply for the job, right? Like, and then you could almost and you could take it that way if you wanted to take it out of context, and it's like you just stand there and watch me work. I can just, you know, okay, I'll just sit here and wait for you to get it done, God, and you just let me know. And that's not what it means. Um and so sometimes I struggle with exactly what does it mean to be still and know that you are God, but still do all of the things that are my responsibility to do.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

I didn't answer your question at all. Like touched on something that's richer. So I I heard a woman speak a couple of weeks ago, and she was talking about shalom, like peace that God has given us access to this gift of peace beyond all earthly understanding, and how, especially as women, it is so hard for us to find that peace. And she said two things that feel relevant here. Her first was that pressure and confusion and chaos are not from God. No, and so if that's where you find yourself, like what God has promised you is peace. And so those things are not from Him. And she talks a bit about boundaries and how boundaries are biblical. But when she started exploring this like topic of shalom, she was similar, like exactly like you, doing all the things for all the people, accessible, available, like to all the things. And it had robbed her of this gift that God gave her. And she tells a story of like sitting in her car, and she goes, What I heard very clearly was you have given pieces of yourself away that I never asked you to. And you have picked up burdens to carry that were never yours to carry. And so I think maybe part of it is getting out of the chaos and pressure to do it all and to be it all. And maybe it's, I don't know, your your words would lead me to it's not just we're trying to be our own God, but we're trying to be a God for other people too.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

Yes. Oh my gosh, genuine.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

And so maybe it's like, how do you step away from that and recognize that like you were never intended to be that person? Like that was never your role. I go back to Job all the time, as Job is in like the worst of it, right? Like he's literally lost everything and he has been faithful through it all. And he's complaining and his friends are stirring him up and like love the book of Job, right? And then all of a sudden, like, and then God speaks. And he's like, oh, hey, like, were you there when I formed the ocean? Tell, like, tell me how that went. Did you, like, did you create the animals? Was that were you there for that? Like, tell me about that. And so I think for me, it's just like this recognition that like I have a God who I can serve. And it is not myself, despite how badly my ego would like it to be. And I don't have to be that for anyone else either. Like, I should introduce them to Jesus, maybe, but like I am, I am not the Messiah.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

And you're not responsible for them believing that he is, right? Like, I mean, I think that's if we go back to 1 Corinthians 3, you know, that's what Paul was saying. Like, he spent he devoted his life to telling people about Jesus. He devoted his life to the gospel. But he seems to recognize, and I'm sure he struggled with it. I don't feel like the he got this right all the time, right? But um he's he understands that he Paul cannot make, he can't save anybody. Right. Like only the Holy Spirit can guide somebody to making the decision. And that wasn't his responsibility. So he had the responsibility to tell people he and he released that outcome, like you said. Um I think where a lot of women struggle is that we don't know how to release the outcome. Right. And I again I think it comes from a good place. So let's just say it's my child. My child is wandered far, and I'm worried that my child doesn't know Jesus and that they're making really bad choices. And of course you would want to control that outcome, right? That that your child comes back to the church, that your child is is living as a Christ follower. I mean that there's nothing inherent, you know, that that is a good thing. But I think what you said about basically at that point you're trying to be their God. You're putting you're putting yourself in the place of God. Um but that's a hard one. Right? When it's you know, some outcomes are easier to release than others, I think.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Totally. There's this, um there's this verse in Micah that says, He has shown you, O mortal, what is good and what does the Lord require of you to act justly, to love mercifully, and to walk humbly with your God. And so maybe it's you do the things that you're called to do as well as you can possibly do them, and then like all you're supposed to do is walk with Jesus and love people. But I think that can be really hard to do. I think, especially as a parent, right? Like you just you want to protect your kids, you want the best for your kids. And I think I don't know, I think about my youth, and if I had not wandered from the faith and found my way back, my faith would not be what it is today, right? And so um it feels like the best thing we can do is love our kids and show them our walk with God. But man, like is that so it's so hard to do in the moment.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

Um I love I mean, I love that verse from Micah. It's so and it's like, oh, well, that's all I have to do. Wow, what a relief. You know, I but those are those are hard things to do. Those are not easily done. Um and then I think that at the cracks, and I don't want to turn this into a therapy session because I have neither one of us has any kind of license to practice therapy, so I want to say that. But I think at the crux of it, Jen, at least I'll just say for me, it's where do I get my identity from? Right. And if my identity is based on what I do, it's extremely difficult for me to release the outcome. Because then I'm if no, even if nobody else is judging me, which let's face it, other people are judging me because we judge each other. But even if nobody else was judging me, and it was just me judging myself, if I get my identity from what I do and I don't get the outcome that I want, then I fail, I failed, right? Somewhere in along, I feel like I've failed. Yeah. Um, and I might even say, hey, God has failed me. Like there, you know, it if if that's where your identity is coming from, it's very easy to go. Like if we think about Job, right? Um, and I think there's arguments that in the beginning of Job, his identity was in what he did. His things, yeah. And um, so it's real easy for me to get to I have failed, God has failed, because my identity is rooted in the wrong place. And so one of the things that I continuously go back and forth with God on, you know, when I'm reading my Bible, thinking about like, um, it's where do I get my identity? And I know that I at the moment I don't get it in the right place. I reckon again, I recognize it now, which I guess is something, but I struggle to surrender that my identity is, I'm who God says I am. Just going back to what you were just saying with this. I mean, at the heart of his questions to Joe, he he wasn't it, it sounds harsh. I think what he was really saying is, Job, I'm the potter and you're the clay. And you keep forgetting that, right? And I know he says it to me. He created me, he gets to use me and do with me whatever he wants to, and I don't have a say in it. I can talk with him, I you know, but at the end of the day, I'm a creation and he's the creator. And he gets to decide what happens in my life and what doesn't. Um, and if I don't see my identity as all the things that he says about me, that I'm his child, that I'm a new creation, that I, you know, that Christ lives in me, all of the things that he clearly says about me in his word, if I can't find my identity in those, and if instead I'm finding them in what I do, I'm never gonna get the what's God's and what's mine, I'm never gonna get it right, Jen. I'm just not.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

I um when we met, actually, I was in this season of work where things were going decidedly not well. Um and that was hard for me because I had always been a high performer. I had always been right, like this leader who could do it all, fix it all, be it all. Um and I can remember sitting with our small group on a Sunday night in like absolute tears, which I don't think in the three years I knew these people that they've ever seen me cry. And I was like wrecked because I felt like an abject failure. Like I it did not matter what I did, I could not fix it, it was not getting better, like it was bad. And I remember sitting there saying to them through my like ugly cry sobs, right? Like, I know in my head that I am fearfully and wonderfully made, and I know that I am perfectly loved by the God of the universe for who I am and not what I do. I need you all to pray that my heart would take that message and that it would leave my head and root itself there. And Lydia, it was months of me telling that to myself as many times in the day as I could before like the truth of that started to actually soak into my heart and like change my need to define myself for what it was I was doing and not who I was or whose I was. But I think sometimes you can like know a thing in your head and then not be able to convince your heart that it's true.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

I think I read somewhere it's like the longest 12 inches in the world is between your head and your heart, and it's the absolute truth. Absolute truth. Um, it's it's I feel like you've been eavesdropping on my prayers lately because I talk, I mean, and and even like in my own therapy sessions, talking about knowing something and living it. I mean, it's just two totally different things. I know, I mean, I know what the Bible says. I've been in church my entire life. I know it is not because I don't know. I listen to messages, I I mean, I am immersed in God's word, I listen to Christian music. Like I I know it's a whole different thing to live it. Yeah, right, to live it. And I believe it about every, you know, the sad thing is I believe it about everybody else. Like I absolutely will spend all day telling you you are loved and it doesn't matter what you do. And and I believe that for you. I have I don't understand why I have such a hard time believing it for myself. I can believe it for everybody else, even people who don't like me. I can believe it for them. I have such a hard time believing it for myself. And um, so maybe that's the work, right? We say, what's our part? Um maybe it's just doing what you were doing, just continuously reminding yourself over and over, um, preaching over yourself, praying over yourself. And because I and and there's like this little voice that says, Well, that's selfish. There's all these other people that you need to be interceding for. But the truth is, is that I gotta get it right here before I can really get it right out in my world and when in my relationships.

unknown 34:34

Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

I think you're right. I think it's why like the line from the speaker hit me so deeply. Like, you have given pieces of yourself away that I never told you to.

unknown 34:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

And because of that, you you have not protected the peace that I have given you. And I think I don't know, we we've talked about this in a lot of our episodes, right? This, but we're called to a life of service, and it like women especially find so so um so much difficulty in just being still, in constructing boundaries, in taking care of like the things that we know. Uh, and I think the challenge is when you lack those boundaries, or when you start playing God for other people, or when you let your peace or your relationship with God drift, then like you're no longer doing what you're called to do, which is like to trust him and rest in him. Like you've you've taken on things that were not yours to take on.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

I'm gonna share something that um I hope will help somebody else. But the other day I I asked myself a question because um I I believe that I believe in spiritual warfare, the Bible is clear that you know the that the weapons and the battles are not here and they're not with other people. There um there are all sorts of spiritual battles that are going on that we just can't see, but we just I mean, I just know that they are. And last week I was I I just felt like I was just being so, so attacked, right? Like it was, it was I call it oppression. I mean, it's it was just the point where um I was just really struggling to to do the things that I needed to do. It was just so heavy. It was like the air felt heavy. I don't know if you've experienced that, but it just felt heavy. And I was like, if I really ever truly see myself as God sees me, what would he accomplish through me? And that must scare Satan to death. If I ever really knew who I was, if I ever really saw myself the way God sees me, so no wonder he's fighting so hard for me never to do that, right? And so I wish one's anybody else out there who's like, why is everything so hard? Why is it so heavy? Um, you know, maybe it's because you're so close to seeing who you actually are in God and who he created you to be. And hell is scared to death. Right. Um and so that makes me want even harder to do exactly what you were talking about, Jen, and spend the time and do the work and tell myself the truth over and over and over again, because I want to see myself the way God sees me. And then I think the answer to our question, I'm not gonna say I'll get it perfect, nothing's gonna be perfect on this side. But I think it will be a whole lot more clear to me what's mine and what's God's if I actually saw myself as he sees me, and if I actually see him as he is, I think a lot of it will get will just fall into place.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

Uh that feeling you described that night on the small group couch as I'm crying. That was the night that we told them we were moving to Iowa. And like that's a story for another day. But I I I knew from God that we were supposed to be in Iowa, and the spiritual warfare that happened from when we made that decision to when we brought it out into the light and made it real was like unbearable. And it is the thing that was going through my mind as I was sitting there. Like, I like God, I know I'm yours. I know you made me, I know you love me, but like all I see right now is like fear and chaos and confusion, and I can't perform my way out of this, and like I don't know what to do. Um and so I think it's not it's not just knowing who you are. Like, I think that that's like the first step. But then I think oftentimes when we like know we have been given a thing to do and we start to do that thing, I think that same spiritual warfare happens because like the enemy knows that like if you do this and it is aligned with the will of God, like something will change because of it. And he desperately wants that not to happen. And so maybe it's not just the moment where we like realize our identity in him, that we are truly the clay and he is the potter and he is in control over it all. But then when he asks us to go do things, like that same cycle repeats. And it's not because like we heard him wrong, right? It's because like the implications are significant when you start to create heaven on earth, and like that's the work that I think he brings us into.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Jen, that was that was beautiful. I think you're exactly right, and I think that's a great place for us to end. Um, because I mean I don't know how we could answer the question any better than he wants he's chosen for some reason to partner with us to bring his kingdom here, right? To to, I mean, that's what Jesus came to do. And then we as his followers continue it. Um and we absolutely should not. I mean, he the Bible tells us we should not be surprised, right? We should not be surprised by the spiritual warfare, by the temptations, by the trials, by any of it. It's just do not be surprised. It's it's we should expect it. And I think, um, and here I said I was gonna finish. I'll try to finish with this, but I think that I think one of the things that Satan does is he isolates us to where we feel like it's only us. I'm the only one who who's feeling this oppression. I can't talk to anybody else about it. They'll think I'm crazy. I'm the only one who's experiencing this, so I'm just gonna keep it in myself and I'm just gonna keep hanging on and I'm just gonna keep fighting. And um, that's his one of his most powerful weapons. And so I'm so thankful that God led us to do this because I just want to say, ladies, it is not just you. Um, it is all of us as his daughters, as the daughters of the king. We are all being um battled against, right? So just want to say today, you're not alone if you're feeling that. Um it's all of us.

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I'm gonna perfect way to wrap the episode. Um can I pray over our listeners before we wrap? I think we absolutely need to do that, and thank you. Lord, thank you for this time today and for all the ears that may hear it. Lord, it feels like we found some of your truth today. That our job is to walk with you and to help build your kingdom here, but to release the outcomes over which we have no control. And Lord, forgive me for all the times that I have tried to play God for myself and for others. And Lord, be with these women as they're in their own spiritual battles, as they're discerning what's theirs to do, as they're attempting to better outcome to you. And Lord, I ask that you draw each of them nearer to you today than they were today.