57. The Real Ghosts Of... Centreville, MS: Part 1

What we thought was a haunted house investigation turned out to be something much bigger. In this first chapter of our Centreville, Mississippi series, we invite you into Moonshadow Manor—an eerie, forgotten home frozen in time, filled with personal items left behind and a palpable energy that seemed to know we were coming. Nicole walks the house while channeling impressions from the former occupants, and we begin to uncover breadcrumbs that hint at a much larger story.

But as the spirits stirred, so did the whispers of the town's buried past.

This isn't just a haunting. It's a haunting introduction.

Join us for this atmospheric prelude... and stay tuned for Episode 2, where the real mystery unfolds: a controversial military history, a missing regiment, and the lingering question—what really happened at Camp Van Dorn?

Find Moonshadow Manor on Instagram and book your stay at this beautiful home here!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Yeah, it's from New Orleans, dat dog.

SPEAKER_05 0:06

Is that what you were being called to?

SPEAKER_00 0:08

I mean that would maybe. Maybe. I felt the New Orleans calling me. Welcome to the Real Ghosts of Podcast, where we explore haunted locations in and around Austin, Texas. We're your hosts Nicole Ricardo and Damien Schalacy.

SPEAKER_05 0:32

Listen along as we couple in-depth historical research and paranormal investigative techniques with a sixth sense of the unknown. The episode you're about to hear deserves some context. While Nicole thinks we're here to investigate a house, we're actually here to investigate the town that the house calls home, Centerville, Mississippi. While this series might start just like every other series we do on this podcast, it quickly evolves into something much bigger, much weirder. So stick with us, follow along, and buckle up.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

I'm ready to rock if you're ready to roll.

SPEAKER_04 1:42

Oh, I am ready to roll, baby. I'm ready to get groovy. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_00 1:46

Did you hit record already? Yeah. Oh, all right. Uh well, we're diving in to our very first episode on Centerville, Mississippi.

SPEAKER_05 1:56

Centerville, which I was calling Centroville for the longest time.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Centralville. I mean, that's how it's spelled. C-E-N-T-R-E-V-I-O. We were trying to be correct, but then somebody corrected us.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Said Centerville. So uh we will call it as the locals do, at least the local in which we spoke to.

SPEAKER_05 2:13

Yes. And Saw.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

I mean So Centerville, Centerville, Mississippi. We I don't even know how to start with this. It's weird. It's gonna be this is gonna be a weird, wild ride. And I hope everybody please keep your hands and feet inside of the vehicle at all times.

SPEAKER_05 2:32

What if they're not in a vehicle? They're listening from their couch.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

What if what if that's the I'm trying to do the like airline stewardess thing, you know? Or like Disney jungle cruise. Like please, please keep your seatbelt fastened at all times until the fasten seatbelt sign has been removed by the captain, which, spoiler alert, will not be until the end of this episode series. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:54

It has this tone of bitchiness to it that you can't really like.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Oh, I didn't add like a bitchy element into that.

SPEAKER_05 3:01

Well, well, there it is.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

Please keep your seatbelts fastened.

SPEAKER_05 3:06

Well, yeah. No, I think the first one was better with subtle. It was the art of subtlety.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Well, I wasn't intending to add any bitchiness into it.

SPEAKER_05 3:14

That might be the magic. Anyways.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Well, anyway, let's get to the point.

SPEAKER_05 3:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

So we drove over to Centerville, Mississippi, and we went over specifically to stay at this beautiful BB. It is called Moonshadow Manor. So shout out, you can go find them on Instagram, Moonshadow Manor. She uh it's listed on Airbnb. She has a website and all that. You can find it on Instagram, and I'll link everything down below. Um, but we went over there to stay in this beautiful home, which I do have to say, the pictures just do not do it justice at all. It is stunning.

SPEAKER_05 3:51

Not at all. They don't do it justice, and neither does sort of the area that it's in because it it all looks so different. It's like when you walk into the house.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

It's a very stark contrast.

SPEAKER_05 4:00

It's a very stark contrast. Beautiful home. Um we just absolutely adore the owner.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Yes. She's so, so sweet. So kind.

SPEAKER_05 4:10

Um and gosh, we even came home and took some ideas aesthetically.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:17

Just ripped her off.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Well, her her interior design is yeah, freaking on point. That was actually something because her and I had been DMing. That was something we connected on because it's just beautiful. It's very like southern gothic, you know, it's very swamp witch. Um it's just, it's amazing. And so yeah, I did after after we got home. She has this, uh, it's kind of like an altar area. It literally looks like an altar at a church in the living room. Um, and we got home and I tried to recreate something of the sort in our entryway, and I sent her the pictures, you know. I tagged her, I'm like, inspired by Moose Shadow Manor.

SPEAKER_05 4:52

Well, we did a good job because one of the things I appreciated about the home, and my eyes lit up with glee when we first walked in, because I'm a big uh I'm a collector of antique religious items, last rites, kits, uh, crucifixes, old coffins, things like that. We even have a pulpit, you know, we have all kinds of things. So we walk in there and she has some radical stuff. And I think there were like three different pieces that I was like texting her, like, hey, would you sell these? You won't get rid of this or what? And there was one that I oh I absolutely adored it, and it was like the first ever, I think, antique she had bought. And that was why she was holding on to it.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Yeah, the Jesus painting. It was a Mary painting. Uh oh, yeah, it was I know what one you're talking about because we both were like, oh my god, it's beautiful. Well, um, but we digress. Okay, and actually, um, because ADD brain, before I forget again, I'm gonna do a quick shout out to somebody who left us a review. No, cool. We have a good review today. What? I know.

SPEAKER_05 5:53

It's wait, you mean we have a good review?

unknown 5:56

No.

SPEAKER_05 5:57

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

We do. Um, okay, so we met over here.

SPEAKER_05 6:02

Give me that.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

The no button. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:03

This is like the only technology we have.

SPEAKER_00 6:05

There you go. Um, okay, so actually now that I'm looking at the date on this, I'm questioning myself that maybe I already read this one. Um so I don't know. If I did, I'm reading it again. But it's from the Ratty Cat. And she said, Listening feels like home. I greatly appreciate your shared experiences and unfiltered ideas. Something weird happens. You gather the facts and your experiences, then you toss around ideas to try to make sense of it because you can't stop yourself from doing so. I can relate. Thank you both very much for making RGO. It makes being a fellow weirder weirdo a little easier.

SPEAKER_05 6:45

The ultimate misquote, Nicole, and you do that quite often. And the fellow the the most weirder, the fellow weirder.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Well, it's because my thoughts go faster than my mouth is able to move. And so I combine things. Because I saw weirdo and then easier is the last word, so I combined it. Weirdo a little easier. Um, but just in case I had already read that one, there's another one from Garrett Brown that says, Great, give it a try. And he says, I was fucking enthusiastic. He says, I recently found this show while looking for something similar to the Night Owl, and I've been listening to this nonstop for the last two months. Check out the team's hair-raising and spine chilling adventures.

SPEAKER_04 7:21

Hair raising and spine tingling adventures.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

So shout out to both of you, bruvs. We fucking appreciate you so much. Thanks, weirders. Thanks, weirders. Um, yeah, I'm gonna well, I mean, it's just nice to check, and there's a good review uh good reviews. I'm gonna be honest, most of the time I don't even check the reviews because I just assume that it's gonna be, you know, some Karen shitting all over something.

SPEAKER_05 7:43

Yeah, I don't yeah. I don't think they've ever been named Karen.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

We're both uh, you know, sensitive girlies. So thank you so much for letting us know that you appreciate us and we fucking appreciate you.

SPEAKER_05 7:56

More importantly, we are going to, because of one of the reviews, I don't know if you ever read it or whatever, but I think you did last week.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

We talked about it on the last episode. Somebody catching the whistle in Octagon Hall.

SPEAKER_05 8:08

Before we get started with this episode, I get it. We've already lost like 10 listeners because they we ramble. Um, we want to announce we are just gonna have to do a an RGO, well, really a dual sort of podcast because it happens across platforms, but in a scavenger hunt for all of you that listen, because we are constantly getting people reaching out to us saying, Hey, at this time on this episode, there's this whisper, there's this weird thing that we don't hear in real time.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Paranormal activity scavenger hunt. It literally happened today with somebody finding some weird ass fucking whispers in the background of the parapeculiar episode we just released talking about or talking to Heidi Hollis.

SPEAKER_05 8:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

It sounds like somebody fucking whispering, being like, damn it.

SPEAKER_05 8:50

It was weird. It's creepy as fuck. It's really creepy. And we didn't listen to it because we don't listen back to these episodes, we just record them and there they go. And we got that and we listened to it, and it's wild. So we'll post that. But scavenger hunt for all of you. Go listen, find the weird stuff.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

You find weird shit, send it to us so we can uh share it and shout you out. And when you send it to us, if you include your snail mail address, I'll mail you some stickers to say things.

SPEAKER_05 9:16

Yeah, so that was that. I just wanted to let that out. Fucking scavenger hunt.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Yeah, paranormal scavenger hunt. So, anywho, uh, back to the show. I wish I had a fuck, why would I need my mothman right now with the little like wand noise? No.

unknown 9:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

You're always trying to take my sparkle, Damien.

SPEAKER_05 9:35

Yes. Yes. Anyways, so where were we?

SPEAKER_00 9:40

We're setting the scene of Centerville, Mississippi, Moonshadow Manor. So, um, setting the scene, I suppose. We uh did not end up arriving to the house. I think it was like 2 or 3 a.m. or something. We got in super late.

SPEAKER_05 9:53

It was definitely 3 a.m.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Um It was it was, you know, and obviously it's dark, and Chelsea met us there. She was our uh back back doing some more research for the case, so you'll hear from her a little later. But shout out Chelsea. She had already arrived, she was already there, she was sleeping, and we come in and we had her came with us, and you know, I did a little scratch around, do a little scratch around of the house, but um, because I just wanted to see it before we went to bed.

SPEAKER_05 10:19

But we did get in late and it was worth noting that I did not go to sleep because the owner had left this painting out on the table with this note for us all about it, wanting to know about it. And I won't dive too much into that. Um, but even though it could be relevant to the story, who knows? But yeah, I was up until I mean the sun was coming up and I was still researching this thing.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Yeah, which I don't know. I mean, I didn't ow. It's me hitting my elbow on something. Um I don't know. I didn't really put that in here anywhere. I mean, do you want to talk about it now? Well, I don't know. I think the reason it's kinda like a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of it.

SPEAKER_05 10:59

It's a side quest, but the whole trip in its in a way is a side quest. And and and you'll know what we mean when we get into how it even started, why it started, and what we did. And I do think that walking into this place, getting there, and there is, for all intents and purposes, a potentially cursed painting on there with this letter from the owner, like with this great story. So everything started High Strangeness like hit us the second we got to town.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

Yes, that is true.

SPEAKER_05 11:31

There was that. Is it part of the story? I don't know. I just know that it set a tone for me that the rest of the trip just kept sort of building on.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Yes, that is a very good point because this entire trip is uh following synchronicities and just a bunch of high strangeness. It is definitely not your typical, like, well, here's a spooky haunted house, and we're gonna go in and do an investigation and hear some spooky, scary noises, and that's that.

SPEAKER_05 11:58

And on this one, we promise cats.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

There are cats involved.

SPEAKER_05 12:03

So uh that was kind of how we walked in. Again, beautiful home. We can't do it justice, the photos can't do it justice. The only thing that can do it justice is if you go and spend a night there. You should. It's great.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Yes. Um which I would recommend. It's absolutely beautiful. And I would say it's definitely a spot where um, like if you want a little staycation, just like relax, have a weekend where you're just chilling, and she has some games there, she has a bunch of horror movies, like the place is pretty well stocked. I think it's a it's a be I would go back. It's a beautiful spot to just go have a little RR staycation.

SPEAKER_05 12:38

Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

So I don't really know how else to sell set the scene for this before we get into my walk.

SPEAKER_05 12:46

Because there's if you want to, I guess we'll do this later as to why we even do a walk.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

You know, like well that yeah, we're not even getting into the weirdness uh until next episode. And I don't I I hesitate to say weirdness because there's still some weirdness in this, but this episode is purely just the house. Just the house. So I did do a walk of the house. The owner had left out some items for us that had belonged to the prior owners of the home. Um, some really cool, like old family Bibles. There was an old yearbook, there was a pile of old photos, uh, which she left on the table alongside this, you know, cursed item for us to check out. Um, so yeah, I did. I got hands on all of these items. I did a walk of the house. Uh, we went on a little, speaking of scavenger hunt, we went on a little scavenger hunt around the house, which ended up being pretty interesting. And then we sat down with Chelsea and she she was able to give us a little debrief on what she was able to find in regards to the the former owners and the former family that resided in the house. So that's what we're getting into in this episode to talk about the abode. Um the abode. And that's that's where I'm gonna leave it for right now. Is there anything else that you want to say or talk about to kind of set the scene of where we were at? Um, maybe you want to describe, like give a little uh picture of Centerville, Mississippi.

SPEAKER_05 14:24

Well, uh we'll get there, but the I think the best way to paint the picture of us when we arrived is you have the three of us, me and Nicole, we're in there looking at various items around the house, looking at these cursed artifacts. You've got Chelsea, the parap. I, sitting out on the porch doing research, you know, and all of us are just like in the groove.

unknown 14:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 14:43

We're in the groove. Hurricanes walking around, everything's good. And things, this becomes a very weird, very, very much an adventure.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Yes. And I will say, actually, because y you and I have talked about this not recorded, and honestly, I think this episode series, this investigation, I don't know, whatever the fuck you want to call this, um, is probably gonna be the coolest series that we've done on RGO so far.

SPEAKER_05 15:20

Certainly. Well, and it's also taking us back to our next location, which shh we'll tell you that later.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Yeah, that'll be spoiled at the end for you.

SPEAKER_05 15:27

Well, they'll find out probably during the episode, I'll guess.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Uh no.

SPEAKER_05 15:31

No. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Not until the end.

SPEAKER_05 15:34

Well, that's us painting the picture of the house, which we cannot do a good job of because it is so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

It is. It's very beautiful. So, um, there's that. So, alright, without further ado, uh, but a couple disclaimers first.

SPEAKER_05 15:47

What is this shit? Abode, ado?

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:51

Yeah. Uh getting all fancy on me.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

I don't know. I'm just using it. With your big words? You ado is three letters.

SPEAKER_05 15:58

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

I'm just using some words, you know what I'm saying? Um, but anyway, so first of all, sorry for my coughing, uh, which you will hear because this was in the period of time in which, you know, there were like five episodes in a row where they all started with me being like, sorry, my voice sucks, because, you know, fucking Austin Cedar fever dying of allergy, so there's that. But second of all, uh I noticed this as I was going through the freaking audio, there's a goddamn whistle in the beginning. Like, you told me that.

SPEAKER_05 16:28

I've not heard this yet.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Yeah. So I'm gonna, we're gonna go into me doing my walk of the house, um, touching these items, getting my read on them. But pretty close in the beginning of the walk, there's a fucking whistle. So I don't know, I guess. Um, disclaimer, again, if you've listened to any of our Hill House episodes, if you don't want to be potentially haunted by a fucking whistle, I I don't know, don't don't listen. Um, and also if you end up hearing a whistle in your house after you listen to this, damn us and let us know. So I don't know. The fucking whistle strikes again.

SPEAKER_05 17:03

I've not heard it. Let's listen to it. So these are some of the items that the owner was kind enough to leave here for us. What do we have here?

SPEAKER_00 18:00

We've got it looks like an old ledger book. Um we have a couple family Bibles with um names actually engraved on them. We have an old yearbook and photos. Some old photos. Which I believe she said that these were things that came with the house or like original to the house, belonged to people who owned the house previously.

SPEAKER_05 18:28

Yeah, I would say that we can start with these. That might be our best bet.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Okay. And I'm trying to pick up on anything in regards to this house family that was here. Yeah. I mean, touching this, I just like I'm getting glimpses, like film reel, you know, kind of in the past of like somebody like writing enough, right? Um I mean I could describe him physically, though I don't know if that would be useful at all if we're able to like find him in early pictures.

SPEAKER_05 19:03

I think describe as much as you can, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Um I mean it's a man and I see it's like like darker hair, he's sitting down, you know, because he's writing in this, so I can't get a gauge in terms of like how tall he is, but I would say like you know, average build. Um he's not like muscular, but you know, he's like thin. Um I'm seeing like a collared shirt, and the thing that's standing out is like mustache. It almost looks like a curled, you know, mustache kind of deal. Um and suspenders, I'm just saying like suspenders, which I think typically he would have had something over it. Like I don't know that you would have seen it, but I it's like, you know, even like like some button, unbuttoned, you know, kind of like after hours, you know. Um these were the family Bibles. Um, these were not the family that lived in this house. Like they were the f family, but they didn't live here. I feel like it was like a, you know, a cousin or like somebody like that, and they just kind of like left it here, you know.

SPEAKER_05 20:53

Okay, is there any way to elaborate more on that? Something that we might because that would be cool if we could I guess I don't know how we'd find that out. I'll have to talk to the owner, but what do you mean it just feels it just feels like a cousin?

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Like it just feels how does that Yeah, I just uh yeah, like not somebody that lived in this house, like it was somebody like related to them, but they didn't live in this house. It was just kind of a like, you know, oh they left their Bible here or whatever, you know, um kind of deal. I feel like whoever lived here, they owned one of the in the town. You know what I'm saying? Um I also feel like they were more confident in the I guess like wealthy, like wealthier. Um not like, you know, super I don't know, like crazy wealthy or anything. And they didn't like I I don't feel like they like, you know, were originally like settlers of this town, but they I feel like they came shortly after, you know, like the the lineage. Like they've been here for like

SPEAKER_05 22:06

The way that you pick up on these these feelings, does it feel like something that if you wanted to you could genuinely connect with?

SPEAKER_00 22:16

What do you mean? Like I am a connector.

SPEAKER_05 22:18

In a sense of stirring things up and getting them to be relatively even active.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Um I mean, I I think that would get into like tr trying to like conjure, you know, territory because what I'm picking up on, it's not like nothing I'm picking up on right now is intelligent. You know, it's like like telepathic communication. Like I'm, you know, kind of like I said earlier, like touching something will allow me to get like an energetic thread that I'm kind of able to follow that will allow me to like get information. But it's not like, you know, there's not like uh, you know, ring ring, like, okay, there's a spirit on the other end of this that's giving me info, you know. Um, like it's not any of that. I'm just like tapping into like the energy of this. I mean, in terms of trying to like get something active, I mean, yeah, you can try to do some sort of like conjuring ritual, you know.

SPEAKER_05 23:23

Um, I don't have any of my like tools or anything with me to do a fucking ritual, but then beyond these items, you've said before we started doing this that there were some areas in the house or some things in the house that felt, I think your word was weird.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Um, yes. Before we move into the objects, is there, Chelsea, is there anything else or any other like leads based on anything that I said that you want me to like follow a bit more?

SPEAKER_01 23:54

I think the only thing I would suggest is trying to explore maybe more with the Bibles without trying to give anything away. I would say I can confirm that they are at least relatives, and it's a fair statement that they didn't live in this house. Oh really?

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

I have an idea of well, I have some names, I'll put it that way. And when we're ready to break and and dive into what I do have.

SPEAKER_05 24:25

You have some names.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

I have names.

SPEAKER_05 24:28

Is that something that you think you could try to pick up on?

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Um, I mean I can try. Names for me, are very like it either comes to me, you know, but Chelsea, you think these Bibles are something that you should have names on them. Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

So where I'm where I'm pleading to is I know I recognize those names. And so I think what I would ask you to to try and detect is more of the relationship side to who is in this house. Um but if that's too much of a stretch, then okay, yeah, I got it.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Um, so we have ethyls right here. Good old Ethel.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

Ethel.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Ethel Ethel. Good old Ethel, let's see. Um, I mean I can like see her. Um it's interesting because see, and this is the stuff that makes me like question myself because this feels older than the image that I'm seeing. Um, like the image that I'm seeing is like a um a woman. It looks like really short curly hair, like tight curls, glasses, um, like button-up collared blouse, you know. Um, like it's almost like like school photo or like yearbook photo style, like headshot style, you know, is what I'm seeing of her. Um, but again, it's like, I don't know, that image that I'm seeing feels more recent than when this is from. So I don't know. Um, in terms of relationship, um, I'm just hearing married. I I don't know to who or to what as soon as I try to, you know, decipher things. I'm usually wrong. So I'm just gonna say married. My assumption would be like maybe married into the family or married to like somebody or, you know, well married to somebody, duh. Um, you know, that was like in this house or like married married into the family type deal, but I don't know. Okay, David Stratnickel. Yeah, and it's interesting because and I don't know, I mean maybe these are just in like the condition that they're in is making me feel like they're older than they are, but I don't know. It's like same thing, like the time frame that I'm seeing, like the image of him seems similar, maybe a little earlier, so maybe indicating like he's uh a bit older than her, I'm not sure, but um seems about kind of the same era that I'm seeing, but yeah, it's like you know, comb kind of slicked back hair, um darker hair, like suit kind of deal. Um, so yeah, and it's interesting though too, and I will say, I'll just note, I mean, I'm not getting anything in terms of what they would have done, but seeing the nicer clothing, you know, typically that's indicative of more like, you know, oh, like educate having like an actual education, um, doing things like that, you know, maybe not like you're not like a farm hand necessarily, you know what I'm saying? Um just based on the like what I'm seeing in my head, like the clothing I'm seeing them wear would be my assumption. Um, alright, I'm gonna follow my spidey sense.

SPEAKER_05 28:26

Follow your spidey senses.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Um yeah, the room that, you know, after kind of like walking around everything, I was definitely immediately like in the library. I was like, ooh, something feels weird in here. So I'm gonna turn on the spidey sense and see if I can identify what exactly. Yeah, because even standing in here right now, it's like it's just it's that same kind of like like almost lightheaded feeling and like kind of sick to my stomach.

SPEAKER_05 29:06

In this room specifically?

SPEAKER_00 29:08

Yes, in here specifically. There's something in here. I feel like there's a and we could probably validate this with the owner. I feel like there's at least something in here, like a piece of furniture or something. Like I I keep being drawn to that chair, but also it might just be be because it's cool as fuck. Um you want to sit in it? But I think that there's probably at least something in here that was with the house, came with the house when they got it. Maybe these like the side tables. I'm not obviously something in the library was making me feel weird. It was making my spidey sense go off.

SPEAKER_05 29:53

Was it cooking your bacon?

SPEAKER_00 29:55

It was, well, I don't know if it was cooking my bacon, it was cooking my anxiety, I can tell you that much. Um, so we're in there, and you know, you're sticking everything and everything in my hands, having me t, you know, what about this? What about this? What about this? And we're trying to figure out what the heck in this room is, I don't know, making me feel weird. So we go over to the large bookshelf, right? It's called the library, of course. There's books in there, and um I of course pick out the one freaking book in the bookshelf. I'm like, this one, I have to see this one. And they're in there in a way that we just can't get it out. Like they're really tall and there's like a lip on the I don't know. How would you describe this?

SPEAKER_05 30:40

Well, I would describe it as very difficult to get out. However, I think if I remember correctly, if we go back and listen to I think all the strapped-on road mics, I think at some point Chelsea's like, oh, you guys are a couple bros and easily gets it out.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Yeah, she does, and I do start it at that point, actually, because it's you know, fucking 20 minutes of us two idiots fumbling around, like, oh, I can't get this out. I don't know what to do. That's it. And then and then Chelsea comes over and she just like flips it on its side and pulls it out. And we're like, oh, well, pair of PI. Or some dumb bruh. God, thank God for Chelsea. Yeah. Um, so anyway, here is the clip of Chelsea saving the day, getting the book out of the shelf, and taking a look at what the fuck this thing is that was setting off my spidey sense.

SPEAKER_05 31:47

Leave it to the pear PI.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

The pear PI is on the case.

SPEAKER_05 31:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Sleuthin'.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

Alright, what do we have here? Chelsea was able to get this.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

Leaves of gold.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Let me just give that to you.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Leaves of gold. Let's say 1969.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

From Doris and David. Huh. Wasn't that guy's name David on the Bible?

SPEAKER_03 32:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

An anthology of prayers, memorable phrases, inspirational verse, and prose. Oh, Wesley Methodist Church, Jackson, Mississippi. Morning worship, January twenty-first, nineteen sixty-eight.

SPEAKER_05 32:53

Nineteen sixty-eight, huh? So it's just a service pamphlet from nineteen sixty-eight.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

Pastor John Ash.

SPEAKER_05 33:02

When you hold it.

SPEAKER_00 33:03

That lady, that Bible, the other Bible said Ethel Ash.

SPEAKER_05 33:06

Ethel Ash.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

So this must be something from the family. And he was the pastor.

SPEAKER_05 33:13

When you hold it, does it feel the same kind of weird way it felt when you touched it at first?

SPEAKER_00 33:18

No. Um, but that's, you know, again, like for me, when I am, like, that's just how it manifests for me when something has a lot of like energy, it like just shoots my anxiety through the roof, you know. So that like sitting here holding it, like, yes, like this is the yes, the energy in this thing is like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

It's not a location that's known to be haunted. And seemingly it's just been a very had a very normal existence for its whole life.

SPEAKER_00 34:25

Yeah, it was just kind of, it was it was an experiment for us, I think, especially coming off Kate Shepherd House. You know, can this house, granted, very old, um, a place that, again, doesn't necessarily have some crazy history to it. There was nothing traumatic or awful that happened in this house uh that we were able to find or that anybody was aware of and just experiments, see what we were able to find. The only thing that we did know about it going into it was that it was old and the former owners had left a bunch of things in there. Uh, but that was about it. So Chelsea was able to get some research though to uh figure out some of who the family was, who had lived there. She is able to actually identify some of the items for us and place them. Um, and for me, it gave some pretty good validation as to some of the things that I was seeing, but uh we will hear what Chelsea has to say.

SPEAKER_01 35:33

Well, so I'll start with what we learned about the house. So Ethel Ash and David Stratton Nickel. The person who owned this house, at least as of 1943, uh, was David Stratton Nickel Jr. So I believe this Bible was his father's. Now his mother was Doris Ash Nickel. So that's not Ethel, but I suspect Ethel was some female relative of Doris's. And that is what I believe this ledger is from. And I don't know about the ledger that we found in the library, but I would suspect something similar. Um let's see. An interesting note. I just thought this was very cool for Doris' time. Doris graduated from college with a major in chemistry and microbiology at Mississippi.

SPEAKER_03 36:44

Just Doris and David.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

Doris and David. Doris and David. So that's who this is from. Doris and the United States.

SPEAKER_05 36:50

So they they you said they lived there in the 40s.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Uh Junior was living here at least in Oh no, he he was born in February of 1943. He lived here at least as early as 1991.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

So that was a gift, I assume, from his parents to him because his.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

In 1967, which we see here.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

1967. Yes, because his parents were Doris and of course David Stratton Nichols Sr. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 37:27

And just to let you know, the book itself, this version came out in 1948. Uh but it was signed in 67 by Doris and David.

SPEAKER_00 37:35

So there you go. So this was, so this book, out of everything in that entire book.

SPEAKER_05 37:41

Which this is this is interesting though, because it's it's essentially a Bible, sort of, but it's not like a King James Bible. It is a I mean, it's a book on religion and prayer.

SPEAKER_02 37:56

Done in a way that I've not really typically seen, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

And so Ash, we'll have to look into this because yeah, it says the pastor Reverend John Ash. And his mother's maiden name was Ash. So that might have, this might have been this might be a church thing, whatever. From his I don't know, grandparent, perhaps. Maybe. Might have been.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

He was a member, uh, Junior was a member of the Centerville United Methodist Methodist Church and had a kid by the name of Joel.

SPEAKER_02 38:31

Joel? Well, this one was the third, the pastor. John Ash the third.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

Well, this is this is casual history. This isn't part of the story per se, but at least the background of the people who used to live here. Um, which there wasn't much of, by the way. And according to Junior's obituary, I keep referring to him as Junior just to differentiate between the David Stratton Nichols. But Junior went by the name of Pickle, which I find entertaining, and I I appreciate that very much.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

So Mr. Pickle's name.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

I don't know. I would love to know that. That was not in the obituary. And Pickle at one point got a speeding ticket in April of set 1977 in Denham Springs and Livingston Parish News is what reported his speeding ticket. Because back in the old days, this is what I love about old newspapers, is that in the old days they would print all kinds of stuff that was happening because there was no Facebook. So your newspaper was your Facebook. If you went and visited family halfway across the country, it would be printed in the newspaper. So and so went to go visit such and such. And that was just your update for society news for the local area.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

Thanksgiving Bridgerton.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's what it used to be in the the early 1900s, let's say. So then that's how you would learn about things like so-and-so had a speeding ticket, because thankfully they don't they publish the police news, but not necessarily to that extent in today's day and age, thank goodness. Not that I get a lot of speeding tickets, but anyhow.

SPEAKER_05 40:54

We did confirm a few things. Um Ethel and Doris, who were we know we confirmed that they were sisters, and John L. Ash certainly was related to them.

SPEAKER_00 41:04

The third.

SPEAKER_05 41:05

The third.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

Yes, the one. He was the one that when I found the the book, there was the little pamphlet that was kind of tucked inside of it from a church service that listed him as being the um pastor. So Chelsea was able to confirm that he was uh related to the family as well. So those were interesting.

SPEAKER_05 41:24

Interesting little pieces of history for a very, very beautiful home.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

Yes, and I just thought it was, I mean, what are your thoughts, bruv, in terms of, you know, obviously there's a lot more to get to here. We have a lot more episodes to go on this. This is the way that I'm kind of viewing this episode is it's almost like the preface, if you will. Um, because some of these things, well, the house specifically, you know, we end up doing a seance later. That's how we decide to investigate um in the home. So it comes back, but I also didn't really want to start with uh just like give them all the juice to begin with, you know.

SPEAKER_05 42:07

The juice.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

Give them all the juice, you know, because we know that, and we kind of alluded to this in the beginning, that this turned into something much bigger, I think, than either of us anticipated. I mean, certainly I anticipated, because I thought we were just going here for, you know, to stay at this house and oh, what an you know, interesting experiment. Like, I don't even know if we're gonna be able to find anything on the house. I don't know if I'm gonna feel anything at the house. You know, might just be a dud. Maybe it won't be anything, right?

SPEAKER_05 42:39

Well, and I think what I am gonna let out, the the little bit of juice that I'm gonna squeeze.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Give give that give that orange a squeeze.

SPEAKER_05 42:48

Is Nicole doing this initial walk of this house, I think it really came down to you didn't know what it is that I was after. You didn't know that what me and Chelsea had been talking about for weeks.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Right.

SPEAKER_05 43:06

I Okay, so we we knew uh we wanted Nicole to start with this house for a very specific reason. Um and I guess we'll get to that. Yeah, and I When I can firmly squeeze.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

When you can firmly squeeze. Well, I'm gonna give it a little more of a squeeze here too when I wrap it up. But um yeah, this is true. I did I did know because uh you had mentioned that there were gonna be a couple spots that we were going to check out here. Um that was about all I got, you know, and we'll hear more when we get there. But yeah, that see, and I'm like, I'm struggling so much because it's like I just want to get into the the meat and the potatoes of this. But I do, oh, before I forget. I do want to mention, so in the the history, you know, now that I've had some time to sit with it, I one thing I did think was interesting and I thought was cool just for me as well, was when I was reading those family Bibles, something you hear me say is like the people that I'm seeing, because I described, I gave descriptions of people who I was seeing as I was holding the Bibles. The people who I was seeing looked much younger than the age of the the Bibles, you know? And then when Chelsea was reading the history and was able to confirm that their kids, so the oh, I forget the name, I think it was Ethel Ash and David Nichols or something, who were the names uh inscribed on the Bibles, that it was their kids, uh, well, one of their kids, I think Junior, and then his wife, um, they ended up with the Bibles. So for me, hearing that felt pretty validating of like, oh, okay, well, I think that that makes sense because that's probably who I was seeing since they ended up owning those Bibles. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 45:05

Yeah. No, if the button's not there.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

No, the button is uh on the other side of the table. But anyway, do you have, I don't know, any other thoughts on the house itself, the what I picked up on in the house, what Chelsea was able to dig up on the family of the house.

SPEAKER_05 45:26

It's well, it's different for me because we were having two different feelings in that in that moment, right? Because you know, while you're picking up things about the house, I'm specifically looking for something else completely different. And I think the way I was perceiving it was, okay, if we're here in this house that is not uh reportedly uh full of activity or or has this sort of haunted history as it might be referred to, in my mind I thought, okay, this is good because she's potentially picking up what I want her to be picking up, just not in a very in the way that I want it yet. It's the only way I can put it.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

I Yeah, I think that's a good point because we did, I guess, at this point have completely different um well, you had a completely different set of knowledge than I did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:26

And and and places that we were gonna have you do walks as well.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

Yes. And you had background information and stories and you know, I had a fucking tiger in my pocket.

SPEAKER_05 46:36

It was getting loose.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

Yeah. Yes, yes, that's a very I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 46:39

Actually, you know, I just that what it what I should have said is I had a tiger by the tail. A tiger in my pocket?

SPEAKER_00 46:46

You were ready to let it loose. I don't know. I don't know. You can make up whatever saying you want, bruv.

SPEAKER_05 46:50

Actually, a tiger in my pocket sounds pretty groovy.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

You had a tiger in your pocket, and you're waiting to take him out and scare everyone with it, I guess. I don't know. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah, and meanwhile, me over here, you know, I'm I'm going into this, like, oh, we're going to this house, kinda in the middle of nowhere. Like, this is gonna be cool, this is gonna be a fun experiment. We're gonna uh see what happens, see what I pick up. You know, I had no knowledge of any of that. I just am like, well, we're going to a house and gonna see what happens.

SPEAKER_05 47:21

And see what happens. We definitely do.

SPEAKER_00 47:24

Yes. But the house the house was only the beginning because the real reason that we came to Centerville, it was not to research the Nichols or the Ash families. It was not even for our side quest to the infamous Myrtles Plantation. We'll get there. It was something much stranger. Something most people today aren't even aware of. A mystery buried beneath layers of time, silence, and just enough missing pieces to make you wonder if the truth was ever meant to be found. The kind of story that makes you feel like you're being watched the moment you start digging. Stay tuned for our next episode. We're the spirits aren't the only ones keeping secrets.

SPEAKER_05 48:20

You wrote that with ChatGPT, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00 48:22

No, I wrote it myself. I'm quite proud of it. Yeah. You know I never script shit, but I was like, oh, the series is just so good. I gotta give it a juicy cliffhanger.

SPEAKER_03 48:32

You gotta squeeze that fruit.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

I was trying to squeeze that freaking orange, okay?

SPEAKER_03 48:37

Squeeze that juice.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

So I hope that left y'all with like a soap opera level cliffhanger, and you're foaming at the mouth, ready for the next episode, now that we've got the preface out of the way, and we're gonna get into the meat and potatoes of this mystery.

SPEAKER_04 48:54

Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the meat and potatoes mystery. That's a great name. The meat and potatoes mystery hour.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

Meat and potatoes mystery hour.

SPEAKER_04 49:03

I'm into it.

SPEAKER_00 49:04

Coming soon to the next episode of the real go sub meat and potato mystery hour.

SPEAKER_05 49:08

I love how we go from this like aw. I love how we go from this serious like monologue to meat and potatoes mystery hour.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Yeah. Well, you know. What do you want? You got a couple of fucking idiots here. I tried to be serious for two seconds. It was well written, okay?

SPEAKER_05 49:23

It's good. It's very, very good. And it sounded phenomenal. Buckle up, people. Buckle up.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

I'll see you all next episode for Meat and Potatoes Mystery Hour.

unknown 49:33

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_05 49:37

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SPEAKER_00 49:48

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