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This Episode we discuss how to get ready for a special event at home. Including tips for pre beforehand.
Hi, and welcome to Two Chairs No Filter with Sarah Kate and Holly, where we bring you real life, real beauty, and unfiltered conversation. Happy Monday. It's your girl Holly and Sarah Kate. We're back at it talking today about what you need to do to get ready for your big event. Whether you are mother of the bride, a bride, uh going to a party, a black tie, anything. We're here to help. We're gonna also include some of our silly stories we've run into over the course of our time doing weddings. And we've seen some things. Some things for sure. Some things good, some things not so good. That's right. So I think one of the questions I get in the salon is do you have tips on how I can style my hair for when I'm at an out-of-town wedding, or if I am going to anything. A wedding, can I make my hair look special at home?
SPEAKER_00Or any party. I mean, no, we're talking about this because it's wedding season. It's very much wedding season for us. It's very much on the topic of the case. Graduations. But graduations, you know, if you really, you know, shout outs, everything's an event. Right.
SPEAKER_01Everything's extra.
SPEAKER_00A party, you know, anything. Um, whether it's a company party at Christmas time or whatever, just any of those ways to prep your skin, prep your hair to really put your best foot forward and give yourself the best canvas to work on, I would say. So um, whether you're getting it done by a professional, whether you're in the bridal party and you've got professional hair and makeup coming, or if you're just doing it yourself. I think either way you need to prep and give yourself the best start to work off of.
SPEAKER_01I always like to stress to brides when I do talk to them prior to booking, our goal is to make you look like the prettiest version of you. You want to show up at your wedding, at your event, looking like yourself. I think the biggest mistake people do is go into it thinking, oh my gosh, I'm gonna be a bride. I need to grow my hair out, I need to have my hair long, I need to do this, I need to do that. Why? If that's not you on a daily, why? We've been sold this bill of goods since we were children. It's not our fault. We played with Barbies, we had Disney movies, everybody's a princess, and everybody has long hair or has a certain look that we've been told that that's the look of beauty. Um, one of our girls that used to work for us, and she still does, she comes in town and works with us. Um, she's getting married in March. So I did her hair the other day, and she's like, My long hair is driving me crazy, but I need it long for my wedding. I said, Why? That's not you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, no, just embrace who you are and make it the best version of that for your special day.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Do you wear your hair up? Do you wear your hair down? How do you feel the most comfortable? Is it a hot time of year? Is it cold? Is it does your hair frizz? Does your hair hold curl? These are all things you need to consider before deciding on a style. And remembering that most of the photos you see online for Inspo are touched up.
SPEAKER_00Or computer generated now.
SPEAKER_01Computer AI or wigs or hair extensions. Um, you know, there's it's very hard to find find untouched real people online anymore.
SPEAKER_00That's true. But I think that you can set yourself up for success in that, you know. I think um like when we style wedding parties, um, my biggest thing, because I generally do most of the hair, not that Holly's not talented, but she's so good at makeup and I love making her do that instead of me. So I like really clean, freshly washed, shampooed, conditioned, blow-dried hair. I don't think you don't need to like do it nice or anything like that. Like you don't have to use a round brush and all that jazz and make it smooth and pretty. I I can do all that. But I want it to be clean because that gives me the best canvas to work with. I think back in the day it was always, oh, you need to do an updo on day old hair, dirty hair, this, that, and the other. And for me, that's not the case. For me, I like to have clean hair because I can make clean hair dirty and gritty and put in the products I need to get it to look and style how I want it to style. I can't, I have a harder time making dirty hair clean. Absolutely. Um, so I want clean hair to work with, and I can dirty it up with different a pomade or a texturizing powder or a volumizing spray or a mousse or whatever. I can dirty it up and I can get the grit I need to get to give the hold to have that style last all night long. I can't do that as well on dirty hair. Dirty hair is not gonna hold a curl. Um, it's gonna look limp. It's not gonna look voluminous. Um, I'm not gonna be able to get the um the teasing to hold as well. Um there's just all sorts of pieces that I can't get. So I always recommend people to start with clean hair.
SPEAKER_01Freshly shampooed, clean hair. And I would say probably the biggest mistake consumers you you know, doing their own hair at home, I think they shy away from using hair products, and a hair product is a tool to help you get the hair you want to have, and it also helps hold the hair as well.
SPEAKER_00I, if you're doing your hair at home for an event, I would say shampoo and conditioner it, and then also put in some sort of heat protectant, um, whether that's a leave-in or a spray on as you're going. Um, so definitely use a heat protectant because I'm sure you're using hot tools. I would also say use a mousse so that you can get some volume in your hair and get a little bit of grit and texture into it as you're drying it. Um and then once you've got that, you know, you can style it from there. Um, I would just caution people like with more curly hair to not flat iron it and then try to curl it with a curling iron. Yeah, because those hair bonds are not gonna go back. It's not gonna go back. So you're gonna be fighting that straight, straightened hair to try to get a curl into it. And this isn't everybody, but this is just by and large what I have found. I I'm sure that there are hair textures out there that are like, I have to flat iron it, and then I can still get a curl in it. Absolutely great for you, girlfriend. I love that. By and large, most people cannot get a curl to hold into hair that they've already straightened, whether that's straightened that same day or whether you straightened it last night and you're trying to curl it, you know, the following morning for an event. Generally it's not gonna hold. Um, no matter what you're putting in it.
SPEAKER_01Well, and even in those cases, a lot of times when we're on location, we're just refining their curly hair, their own hair. Right. Just touching it up with an iron. So, really, if you have curly hair and you don't know what to do prior to either showing up for a stylist to take over, or for your own event, I would let your hair air dry, do a partial blow dry, get the scalp blown dry, scrunch it, put your curl cream on, and then once your hair is dry, go through and refine those curls, or we'll do that for you.
SPEAKER_00It's like a really tiny rod. Smaller than normal iron. A small iron. I love to see those curls. I love to see a natural curl, and I really love to see just those pieces refined because everybody, not everybody, most women with curly hair, there's places that curl better than other places. You know, that nape of the neck is tight, tight, tight, tight curls up towards the front, it's maybe a little bit straighter. I think they call that irish curls. Isn't that what that's called? I've never heard that one. No, you've not heard that one.
SPEAKER_01No, but a curling with holes does help usually with getting those areas that are a little bit straighter to spring into their curl formation.
SPEAKER_00And then I like just taking a little hot tool to those pieces that need a little more oomph. And then you can kind of just pin back the pieces that you want pinned back, or you can leave it all down. Um, I've kind of run the game, you know, sometimes I just start gathering random pieces and start pinning it up and kind of make a you know more of a wild 90s-ish updo with that. I love that with curly hair.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Um, and just kind of sweep, you know, if they've got shorter kind of bang pieces, I just kind of sweep those to the side and let them hang and curl and do their own thing. I think when you have curly hair, you just embrace it. Don't try to make it, you know, straight just because everybody else has straight hair, you know, like just embrace your curly hair. Um those straight hair girls who want your curls.
SPEAKER_01For sure. I do. Um and then some girls are really talented with a flat iron. Uh, this is taking it a step above a novice level, but doing flat iron curls with their flat iron so they can kind of get that smoothness. But um, any kind of heat iron tool will smooth or refine the curls, so that's just something else.
SPEAKER_00And on a hot tool, of course, you want to keep I'm sure we've touched on this before, but keep that heat to a medium heat to start by like 350 is 350, I think is a good place to start. Heat protection, like heat protection, regardless of what heat you're doing it on. Use a heat protectant. Um I can't say that I do a lot, a lot, a lot of hairspraying between sections.
SPEAKER_01How do you depending on the hair texture? Because I look at hair as a fabric, and what do I want that fabric to do? If it's like baby fine silk, I'm thinking silk fabric, and I need it to be more like a cotton or I mean then you have on the other end of the spectrum like more like a canvas or burlap type fabric, and I'm trying to get it softer. So, you know, I that is my gauge in my head, and depending on what I'm trying to get the hair to do. So if I have coarser hair and I'm trying to get it to be softer, silkier, shinier, I'm gonna use products in between sections. And if I have really fine hair, or if the girl at the bridal event is saying my hair doesn't hold curl, I'm gonna go for a little bit of a stronger hairspray styling spray, you know, as I'm curling the hair.
SPEAKER_00You're doing that as you're curling or just at the finish?
SPEAKER_01I will I usually section off and I spray as I go. I spray the section, um, root to tip with hairspray or with the styling product? With the styling product.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so you're saying like a volumizing spray.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, or the beach spray or texture spray, definitely to get that texture. Uh-huh. Um and then on the other end of the spectrum, if somebody has more of that canvas or burlap texture that I'm trying to make silkier, I'm gonna use a spray on one of our spray oils, or I'm gonna use uh smooth again. Do you use like a cream ever on that? Or smoothing cream. My favorite is smooth again. So I usually will use that on the section, and then if they were wanting a more silkier Hollywood glam look, that's what I'm gonna use to get that. But if they're just wanting um the curls to be refined again with protective uh doodle golden doodle, yeah. Um terrifying, really ferocious. Yeah. So to refine the curls, I'm just really gonna see what the hair tells me to do. I'm not necessarily gonna go in with a strong product. I might use a light styling, a light hold styling curl cream or something just to refine. And maybe I won't use any, you know, just wait and see.
SPEAKER_00I think sometimes um when you're doing your hair at home, I think sometimes you're like so afraid that it's gonna fall that sometimes you over hairspray it. At the end. At the end. And that's probably and so that's I think where people get into a little bit of trouble. So that's what I mean when I say I don't really do a whole bunch of a heavy spray at the end uh until the very, very end. And even at the very end, I still I'll use a stronger hold. I won't necessarily use more. So a stronger hold uh hairspray as opposed to a flexible hold hairspray. I'll use a flexible hold hairspray, like a light mist, as I'm going through the sections and curling. But at the end, when I'm really done with the style, um I I don't want to, I don't tend to want to make it glued down necessarily. But you give it a good spray, but I give it a good spray.
SPEAKER_01Um I mean that's a lockout spray. It helps lock out humidity and odors, smells, different things together.
SPEAKER_00I'm doing it more to lock out the humidity than I am to like have it be stiff.
SPEAKER_01Have it be stiff because you still want your hair to be flexible and move and and I mean the products that we use are made for layering, so as you layer the products onto the hair, the hair is gonna hold. Right. Right, for sure. So but then it's gonna be able to be combed through as well. Absolutely. So, like at home styling, what would you say or tell a consumer to go get?
SPEAKER_00I really think that it's good to have uh volumizing this. If you're gonna be doing any sort of style, I think you need to start with that. That needs to be your base, right? Um, and then of course, our heat protectant. I'm gonna harp on that heat protectant for sure. Whatever it is, whether it's a leave-in one or a spray-on one, definitely heat protectant. But I also feel like um, depending on what style you're doing, you could use a texturizing powder. I like a texturizing powder that's gonna give volume. I like it if you're doing a braid and you can put it on your braid, you can kind of pull it out so it looks like a bigger, fluffier braid. Um, I like that texturizing powder. I put that um, and any places that are a little bit maybe thinner, like kind of where our recessions kind of are at the front of my hairline, I like to put that there so I can kind of fluff up my curtain bangs and um and kind of keep those in place. That texturizing powder has a little bit of hold to it, so I kind of can get them in place and then um and then just do a light flexible hairspray over top of those to keep them in place the whole night. Um, and then I think there's a spot for a flexible hold hairspray and a heavier hold hairspray in your box of tricks.
SPEAKER_01Definitely. Also, you might want to look at when you go to the market or a beauty supply store. I would get and keep on hand some bobby pins. Yes. In your color. Yeah, in your color. That was the next words. And they also have a small container, usually of mini hair bands, little mini rubber bands that are good for half-up, easy, quick at home styling. Um, along with you can do like a half-up ponytail. You could you could get some little pins at little at at any accessory store.
SPEAKER_00And I mean, gosh, I feel like there's tons of like accessory aisles, even at the grocery store. The grocery store, you know, in the hair care. I always have the accessories there, you know, at any of your Target, Walmart, whatever. Right. You know, they've got tons of accessories, so you can kind of glitz it up a little bit if you want to. Not that it's necessary, you know, you can kind of let your hair do the talking as well.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_00Um, so I think those are kind of the good hair options prep options for hair. As far as for prepping for makeup, what skin care is key.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I'm a big one on if you're canvas. Not all of us have, you know, we have different hormonal swings, different things that happen within our body, and it comes out in our skin, stress, for instance, menstruation, all of the above can affect breakouts, aging, wrinkles. Um, you know, just different points in our life. And so we can't expect to apply our makeup the same way at 40 as we did at 20 or at 40 and 60. I mean, our skin texture changes, and we really need to have the best skin to start with for us. Not everybody's skin is comparable. You know what I mean? Start with hydration. Hydration and cleansing, don't overcleanse and hydrate.
SPEAKER_00What about the um we had a mother of the bride who was who said who sat down and said, I meant to get a facelift this year.
SPEAKER_01So she requested that we did a half up, half down style so we could um cover her makeshift facelift.
SPEAKER_00She gave herself a makeshift facelift by using surgical tape and like a string, I guess. I don't even think I really I did her hair and I don't even think I saw it. She taped her neck. So she like taped her neck back, like went behind her ears, under her ears, I guess. Under her hairline. And then just like pulled it back, just like any of us do, and we're like, whoa, we look like if we had a facelift, and you just pull that kind of like just by your ears, you just pull it back. What would I look like? Well, she liked what she looked like, so she surgical taped it with a string and made her make she did.
SPEAKER_01She gave herself a necklift. She gave herself a necklift. Um, so she must not have had a low hairline in the back because how did she tape around? Did she tape like behind her ears and then run the string from ear to ear? That had to have been what it was. Now I'm trying to remember, but she will forever go down in our book of memories.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it was innovative, it was creative. Um, I wonder where she got that idea. I don't know. I don't know. Honestly, I don't. But if you are going the facelift route, you should probably do that about a year before your actual event. Um because you want to allow for a healing.
SPEAKER_01Really have the healing go down. I wouldn't try any kind of fillers either, right close to your event. No, definitely if several months out. Do you want to have that settled out and nowhere? Facials, any kind of new facial routine, start a laser or whatever. All of that stuff. Do not do that the last month of your wedding or big event. If you're a mother of the groom, mother of the bride. Yes, that's important. So I think these are all things that you should already be trying. Don't go trying something new. Because I'll tell you, I had waxing before I got married the first time. The person that did my bikini wax burnt me. That was cute on your honeymoon, I bet. Uh-huh. She burnt me. So that was like the week of my wedding. So I wouldn't even recommend that. I would say do it the week before, two weeks out, three weeks out.
SPEAKER_00Really, I feel I might be making the story up, but I really feel like I'm not making the story up. One of my best friends, I am pretty sure that she got one of those, like some sort of laser situation done to her face before it was either before her wedding or before one of our weddings or something like that. She sent pictures and I was like, You look like a horror movie. You look like something out of a horror movie. All of the skin, yes, it was like it was like, it must have been some sort of laser situation because the skin was coming off. It was red. I was like, You're awful. Is it Freddie Krueger? Is that the one with the face like that? Like it was a legit horror movie. And we were just kind of like, oh my god, is it gonna are you gonna be better by by Friday night, by Saturday morning for the event? Like, are you are you is this gonna be better? And she was better, but it was a terrifying week there for a minute. Um, a whole new level of vampire facial. Uh yeah, she looked like an actual vampire, she looked terrible. Oh my goodness. Um, and I mean then it was beautiful at the end, you know, right? It was it was all worth it in the end, but there was a lot of stress that went along with that week. So don't let that be you.
SPEAKER_01Don't jump off. Um the at-home mask under eye. Oh, this is a big one. Under eye patches. Please don't use the couple of days leading into your wedding.
SPEAKER_00Well, so I don't really know what is in them, but I know I remember one time you were doing makeup on somebody. And let us let's just say, like, Holly and I have our weddings planned out to AT. You are in our chair for 30 minutes, and I'm doing your hair, and Holly is doing your makeup, and 30 minutes later, you are out of our chair, and the next girl is sitting down. So it is on a tight, tight time frame. So we don't really have a whole lot of time for stuff to go really, really wrong.
SPEAKER_01So we did this trial on a bride in the salon. Literally the day before her wedding because she was an out-of-town bride. So she her makeup went on flawless. We're just gonna call it a Friday. We show up Saturday, and Sarah's working on her hair in the back, and I'm working on her face in the front, and we use a director chair, like she just said, and her skin peeling peeling under her eyes. Under her eyes. At first, I was like, is this some sort of residue coming off on the sponge I'm using? Because I use a new sponge for every guest, and I'm like, this can't be. And then I try it with the brush.
SPEAKER_00Well, Holly looks at me in a little bit of a panic face of what the heck is happening right now.
SPEAKER_01Because her skin was peeling in layers off her face. Because it must have had some sort of exfoliant, some sort of additive in it for it to be peeling like that.
SPEAKER_00Something was going on for sure. I don't know if it was residue from the eye patches or if it was some sort of peeling, but I don't really don't want the under-eyes like that to peel.
SPEAKER_01So I would say if you're worried about puffiness, just like go old school. Stick a couple of spoons. I know, get some ice cubes or something. Get some ice cubes, make a little makeshift ice cooling something. But don't use the ice patches.
SPEAKER_00You just never know if it's gonna leave a residue and then your makeup's gonna be not going on how you want it to go on, whether that's a professional putting it on or whether that's you putting it on at home. So I would not do those eye patches or face masks or whatever. Maybe at the very beginning of the week. Yeah, like five days out. Yeah, I would say five days out. Yeah. So definitely it seems like a good idea and it seems fun until it's not, until it's going terribly awry and you're on a time crunch trying to get your face done before, you know, whatever the event is. So keep that in mind.
SPEAKER_01Um, also with the hair removal, because that's very exfoliating. Waxing. Gosh, we have seen some things with that. Yeah, I would do waxing, any kind of microblading, anything to remove hair, do that if you've never done it before, do it a week or two out. If you have done it before, five days.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna be honest, Holly. I am shocked by the amount of women who don't have their hair, facial hair situation taken care of before an event. Like, how many times have people sat down and been like, oh, can you just tweeze my eyebrows? There's probably some strays. Can you just tweeze them? Ma'am, why haven't you done that? You knew this wedding was coming, you knew whatever event was coming. Why haven't you done that? And tweezing the amount of hairs?
SPEAKER_01Like that is gonna create redness. Also, it's time. I don't have time to do that. We don't have time. We could have 10 girls that knee in. And why do we need to take an extra 10, 20 minutes tweezing someone's brows?
SPEAKER_00Like the difference is I mean, the difference between my brows, which are basically white, like you can't even see mine. So if I don't do mine, no big deal. But like you can't, if you have dark hair, oh you can do them. You can see them. Yeah, you can see them. So why why are you guys not taking care of that? By just trimming and shaping them can make them look thicker as well. Something is I don't know. I just find that very strange to not take care of stuff when you know you've got an event coming up. Um the biggest one that did not take care of it was the lady with the five o'clock shadow.
SPEAKER_01Full on goatee. Full on goatee. And she knew her she had hair in her face because it had been shaved. She had shaved it at some point. Stubble, like a short stubble. Like a masculine stubble, little more than a five o'clock shadow. More than a five o'clock shadow. This was like a five-day shadow.
SPEAKER_00I don't even know how many days it would take. Yeah. This was like a five-day shadow, full on goatee. Mother of the bride. Like you knew that your daughter was getting married this weekend. Why didn't why didn't she even shave that day? I don't know. I don't know. I was baffled by the whole thing. You covered it up brilliantly, honestly. Oh, you have to crush that. I we didn't even have the tools with us to handle that.
SPEAKER_01Like a little facil razor was not going to be cut. I would cut it. I would have cut her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I would have cut her with that seriousness of that go-to. We needed, it needed a real live Gillette razor. Like a three, a three to five blade Gillette razor. Awful.
SPEAKER_01Awful. Um, what about back to the lady that gave herself the necklift? I was doing her makeup and she had eyebrows, peel and stick eyebrows on. They were shiny. Like I'm old enough that I remember getting prizes in my Cracker Jack boxes. Not a prize. No, the tattoos. Anybody older than probably 40 or 40 plus remember getting cracker jacks and they would have these fake tattoos in them. And you could like apply them to your skin, and then they would have a sheen. Yeah. Okay. They still are like that. Okay. They're still like that. Her brows were like that.
SPEAKER_00Oh no. I didn't catch that.
SPEAKER_01Oh, they were on Cracker Jack brows.
SPEAKER_00I did not catch that. Were they the appropriate color? No.
SPEAKER_01They they looked fair. I mean, they look fine. What did you do? Did you go pencil some in? No, I didn't have to because they were like full-on little, like they were microbladed with the little strokes and everything in the brows, in the tattoo. I don't know where she got those.
SPEAKER_00I've never seen Do you know what's a funny story? I don't think I never used them, but I did buy them because I was afraid when I had chemo that uh all of my I didn't realize all your hair would fall out. I don't it's like kind of like some people don't realize that all your hair turns gray if you've listened to our gray blending. Wink wink, everywhere hair turns gray. Okay, wink wink. When you have chemo, all your hair falls out. I don't, I I don't, I did not put all that together. So I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna lose my eyelashes. Oh my god, I'm gonna lose my eyebrows. What the heck? So I never fully lost my eyebrows. They did thin out, but I panicked and like went and got these like eyebrows, but they were they were like peel and stick eyebrows, but but they did like they looked like real hair though. They looked fluffy. I probably still have them upstairs in my bathroom in my drawer Broken Dreams. Um so I never used them, but you could like trim them to the appropriate size and you could pick out the color that was right for you. And they looked like, I mean, they look like little caterpillars, honest to goodness. They really do. I never use them though, because they really my eyebrows still stayed intact. I would have done better if I'd used some more lashes, some of the lashes that I bought, but gosh, they were really hard to put on when I had no lashes to put them on here to send them on.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Um, so how does somebody handle the lash situation at home? Putting on lashes.
SPEAKER_00Gosh, that's so very hard. I honestly am not good at putting them on myself. I am not. I can put them on somebody else in about a second. I cannot put them on myself. I generally get the glue on there. I have them trimmed to the right length. Because I think that's first of all, you need to have them trimmed to the right length.
SPEAKER_01The length meaning the length, they all come one size fits all. Not the length that comes off your lash, but the length of your lash lid. Lid. Your eyelid. Yes. Is much the same thing.
SPEAKER_00So not all these things. They're not all the things. You can use if you have really big, wide open, bright eyes, then you can use the whole thing.
SPEAKER_01But if you have a hooded eye or a smaller eye, you're gonna need to trim some of the actual length of the lash line. Yes. Down. Down.
SPEAKER_00So that's the first little hot take. Um, hot tip. So you need some cuticles to your little scissors, tiny scissors, yeah. So trim those off.
SPEAKER_01Um get an active length, get naturals, get full ones if that's what you like. Right. And if they're slightly too long, you can just go in and kind of cut little Vs or just trim the longer. Don't cut them one V, but you don't really need to. There's so many on the market.
SPEAKER_00I don't know that you really need to. The only times we've done that is when we haven't actually had what we wanted. We've run out of what we wanted. Yes. Um so you really can find what you want. Um, the other thing is to use a lash glue. Either use the lash glue that's quick dry. I don't recommend using the dark one. I would just go ahead and use the white one that dries clear. Um, use either the quick dry one, or if you use the regular one, um put a little line on there and then on the lash. On the lash itself, and then let it get a little tacky. Let it dry just a smidge, and so it's not like wet, wet when you put it on. It's just a little tacky, so it wants to stick a little easier and quicker. Um okay, so that's really honestly the part where I call in literally anyone else. So my daughter has put them on for me before. Um, and so I just am like, hey, get it as close to my lashes as you can, and then I just kind of go in and wiggle it down to where I really need it.
SPEAKER_01You want a lay on your lash line. She's eight.
SPEAKER_00So, you know, she's this is a little out of her wheelhouse. Um, but I have done I usually get somebody else to put them on, and then I kind of wiggle them down into place on my lash line, and then I just kind of give the tweezers a squeeze on the false lashes lashes and my natural lashes, is what I do to just kind of push it in.
SPEAKER_01You know, like your mascara wand, the brush inside, you can buy those, or they even make them that you can use all the time because I have one at home and just run through your lashes to kind of brush them together. Add a little mascara to your own lashes to marry your lashes and the artificial lashes together, will help make them feel more real too. Um, I do have a few clients that buy the little wispies, they're like little triangles for the end, you know, little cluster, little cluster. Um, or you can buy individuals. Those I am way too ADD for that. Like it takes way too much time for me to try to set each little cluster of lash on my lash. I'm not interested in that. Just give me a strip, or get a good thickening mascara. Or what about um like the tubing mascaras, the ones that give you a primer and they add, you let the primer dry. I would say I like that, but I don't. I just like a good legal.
SPEAKER_00I don't like a tubing mascara because I feel like the fallout from those is a mess. And the fallout meaning like when it starts to flake off of your lashes and it falls down onto your under eye, and then you look like a raccoon. I'm not a fan. So I would like to say that I like it, but I don't. I can't, I cannot recommend that. But other people feel differently about that. So that's just my opinion. You know, do with that what you will.
SPEAKER_01Um, as far as keeping your um makeup on longer, I we definitely start with a primer. Start with a primer moisturize, prime. Primer is just gonna even out your skin, it's gonna help camouflage um pores, it's gonna help bring together your drier parts of your face to your oilier parts.
SPEAKER_00So you aren't combination anymore, you're just flat. Flat. So I like a lot of um, they have so many different primers. Um, and they really do work. I it seems like a gimmick, but it really does work. So there are some that are if you have oily skin, they have like a charcoal base, which I really do like. They have some if you're really um red prone, like rosacea prone, they have a green kind of base in there. Um, they have then they're just hydrating if you're really dry. They've got hydrating primers, and then they've got just kind of like run-of-the-mill. Um everybody, you know. So we have one that we use all the time on everybody, and it is amazing.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. It makes the canvas, meaning your skin, just so much easier to apply, silkier. Also, for those of us that have started to get a little bit of wrinkling in our under eyes, that primer helps with makeup setting into those creases and those fine lines for sure. So prime and then go on top with um, you know, your concealer, conceal the darker areas or the areas where you get red, or the con, you know, with rosacea, like she was just saying about the redness and counteracting some of that area because most of the time you'll have a beverage of choice, and a lot of times people with rosacea get a little more red after they drink or spicy foods, and then your foundation or CC cream, apply that all over, and then you know, just add your eyeshadow, blush, bronzer, fill in your eyebrows that you've hopefully had waxed sakes, yeah, and you don't have any goatee action going on. Um, you know, just to keep your skin looking fresh and beautiful, you just really pretty glowy skin goes a long way. If you have a really good skin makeup routine, get your primer, your foundation conceal, do a little blush, a little bronzer, a little highlighter. Remember, highlighter you want to use sparingly for aging skin, but for younger skin, you can get away with it a little bit more because all of that sparkle brings out wrinkles.
SPEAKER_00Or you definitely don't want to put it anywhere that you possibly have some wrinkles or possibly have some creases. So, like um, you know, typically on younger skin, I put it a lot on like the higher cheekbones and stuff like that. And I don't or brow bone, and on the brow bone and stuff like that. But high on on the cheekbone, you know, you get into aging skin, you're getting into like the crow's feet around your eyes. Well, that highlighter is going to highlight those crow's feet. It's gonna settle right into the crow's feet and it's going to draw your attention there and sparkle right at your crow's feet. And like, you know, no shade on some crow's feet, you know, but probably not what you want to highlight on your face. I don't know. That's just me. I don't necessarily want to highlight that.
SPEAKER_01So and stick with a matte shadow then, if that's the case. Um, you know, if you have aging skin or crows crow's feet, you definitely want to use more of a matte powder or um on your cream. Eyeshadow.
SPEAKER_00Eyeshadow. Yep, pressure shadow. And um sometimes I think the cream can get a little too um, you know, can like clump up almost on your lashes. I'm on your lips.
SPEAKER_01But I'm not a cream eyeshadow girl.
SPEAKER_00I'm not eyeshadow. I like cream in blushes and bronzers because I think generally as our skin gets older, it is dry. It tends on the drier side. So I like to have a creamier finish. Um, but I I just can't fall in love with it on my eyelids, and I don't I I don't know if it's something I'm doing wrong, but I I like to have a eyeshadow palette that has really good pigment, so you don't need a whole lot of it. Um yeah, tap your brush off so you don't have any of that kind of fallout. Um and I like to set when it's all said and done, I like to set with a setting powder. Um, or I like to set with um well, I definitely not wore. I definitely set with a setting spray.
SPEAKER_01It just think of it like a hairspray for your face. It's gonna help keep your makeup in place, it's gonna help matte, make a matte finish. They have some that will give you a little bit of glitter or sparkle like J-Lo.
SPEAKER_00There's also one that has sunscreen in it, too. And I have been meaning to grab that one. Yeah. Um, I haven't yet, but I like that setting spray and I want to try the one with sunscreen in it. Right. So always when you're I don't necessarily do a setting spray for a day-to-day makeup, but events are like always spray my face every day. I should.
SPEAKER_01Every day. Do I?
unknownNot always.
SPEAKER_01Because I I'm not one to touch anything. Oh, I'm not touching anything. The only thing I'm touching up is if I go to the restroom at work and I see that I have like my mascara under my eye or something. That's the only thing I wipe that away. But I do always touch up my lips usually at some point, but I do use a matte lip stain.
SPEAKER_00My favorite thing that you and and your sweet mom Barb say, if you don't have lipstick on, that you look like you're mute today.
SPEAKER_01I know because I have no color to my lips. And I must have a lip pencil. I like those chubby, I'm real fancy, chubby Maybelline lip pencils. They're creamy, but I can put it on driving down the street. I have to have something. You always have a lip on it. I have to always have, I don't have a lip on right now. I don't have a lip on.
SPEAKER_00Well, but I have to have a lip. I'm more of a gloss person. Yeah. I'm more of a gloss. I like a a plumping gloss or just a little bit. Oh, the plumping stuff kills me, but it's okay. I like a plumping gloss. And you know what's so fun? And Parker loves a plumping gloss also. I don't know that it actually works on her little sweet little lips, but she does like a plumping gloss. And I'm like, I the first time she asked for it, I was like, watch out, that's like spicy on your lips. Like it'll I don't it'll hurt your lips. Don't put that on. And um, you know, being a little girl, she was like, Yeah, okay, mom, sure thing. Little redhead um has a little mind of her own. So she, of course, ignored me and put it on her lips, anyways. And it did not bother her, and she loves it, and so she always asked for the spicy lip gloss now.
SPEAKER_01Love it, love it. It just a lot of them kind of have more of an active ingredient in them that can feel minty, yes, right? Or cinnamony. I think it's minty. Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_00I'm not exactly sure what it is in there, but um, but that's another thing, you know. If you are not, you know, you want your lips to look fuller, try that instead of um, you know, going down the filler route. You might not want to start that right before an event. Like, exactly.
SPEAKER_01And definitely blend your bronzer or powder down your neck. Oh, yeah, that's important. And into your hairline because you want it to look real. You want it if you're using bronzer for whether you're giving yourself a little bit of color or glow or a little bit of um shoot, what's what am I thinking of? Um, anyway, just blend it into your hairline and into your neck and don't forget about your ears. You know, one thing I have to say, this is mine. Nobody ever notices, but I should have moisturized my earlobes years ago. Moisturize your earlobes for what? Uh to keep the elasticity in my earlobes because my earlobes look old. No. What? Yeah, they do. They start to get wrinkly too, especially if you're a side sleeper. Or if you or if you wear heavy earrings.
SPEAKER_00I I'm staring at her earlobes right now. I feel like I'm creepy a little bit. I cannot confirm. Hers do not look old. But just putting it out there. If you had huge old man ears, maybe that would be something.
SPEAKER_01But like, really, Holly? But what if you're wearing your hair straight back and you have these white ears, but you have this is what I'm thinking. And you've like really got this bronzy glow going on on your face. You just kind of want to just rub your powder.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna be honest, I don't feel like I've ever I think about that. Thought about that. That has not come up for me. So now I'm gonna hyperfixate on that. Thank you, Holly. You're welcome. Great, great, great, great. You're welcome. You just gave us something new to fixate on in the mirror. Lovely.
SPEAKER_01Sorry, you're welcome. Now you're now everybody will be looking at their ears and say, do my ears look wrinkling?
SPEAKER_00Do I need to moisturize my earlobes? That's right. You know what I am crazy about is my sunscreen for my face and neck and chest, obviously. That my daily sunblock for that, and then I rub it on the backs of my hands. Oh, yeah, because our hands age.
SPEAKER_01But you know, a lot of women do get skin cancers on their hands from driving. From driving. Yeah. And then I was told years ago when I was really young doing hair that m uh this woman would be dead and gone now because it was that long ago and I was probably 20. And she said that women were passengers in cars. Majority of the time we're talking probably what you think, 40s, 50s, 60s. Right. And so on her right side, being in America, a passenger. She had more sun. Yes, had more sun on that side of her body, and that's where she had to have her Mose surgery. Jeez, I never really thought about that. No, you don't think about the day-to-day. But now, when I was doing hair and makeup for a photographer, she would say that sunscreen, and again, I'm not a photographer, but sunscreen would give her flashback in the photograph, and she'd have to do more retouches with the sunscreen. Which made sense to me because if it's supposed to reflect light.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean, that does make sense.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, but I I am a religious.
SPEAKER_01Depending on on a daily, but like when we're talking about just wedding photos, how much time are you spending outside? I don't, I wouldn't worry about it on special events. I wouldn't either. You know, when we're on location and doing makeup for weddings, we do use airbrush foundation, but on a daily, I use just a really good CC cream. I have one for full coverage, and then I have one for just an illuminating, you know, something to give me a little bit of glow. Um, but as far as the airbrush foundation, we can blend it for different skin tones. It stays in place, and um it's a little bit fancier than what you would see at home. I would agree.
SPEAKER_00I think everybody really loves the finish of airbrush makeup. Do you think it makes your skin look any older or no? No, I feel like because you can build it, you know, so you can do it as light or as heavy as you need to. Um, which you can buy them for at-home use, but I will say it's messy to be using at home. I I would never use that daily. I mean, I don't know that I would either. I did try it though. I mean, like we always say, we do try stuff on ourselves before we, you know, really jump right in. So I did try it on us on myself when we first got it. What was hard was, you know, you need to keep your eyes shut while you're doing it. So where exactly are you putting, you know, the foundation was a little easier to do than the blush and the bronzer. Because with the blush and bronzer, I kind of had to have my eyes open to see where I was actually putting it. With the foundation, I could kind of just sort of wing it. So you could do it at home, but definitely I would say that more often than not, it's professional use.
SPEAKER_01For sure. I would say, for sure. And the thing with airbrush is it goes on, stays on, it's buildable coverage. Um, that's pretty much none of us have perfect skin. So you just want to cover and add a little bit of extra coverage where you know is a problematic area.
SPEAKER_00Um what about I was just thinking about um how we were talking at the beginning of the episode about being the best version of yourself, and then I was thinking about how people bring us inspiration pictures, and they're so sometimes they're so off from what their actual style is. What do you say to people in those situations?
SPEAKER_01First off, hair color. The color of your hair is gonna be reflective. Whether it's dark, you want to find a dark-haired inspo photo. If you have blonde hair, find a blonde hair. Highlights create more texture and more dimension within the hairstyle, the curls, the everything. Dark hair detracts and absorbs the light, so you're not gonna see as much of the personalization of the style within a dark hairstyle.
SPEAKER_00I think as much. I think that's just the difference of seeing a braid on a highlighted blonde versus a flat brunette. Yes. You know, like there is a braid in that flat brunette hair, but you sure don't see the ins and outs of the braiding happening as you would see with a blonde highlight because you're seeing the blondes in and out, you're seeing the highs, the lows, you're seeing so much more interest in that braid than you're seeing on a brunette. I am not saying don't braid on brunettes. I'm just saying brunette hair. I do too.
SPEAKER_01I do too. You're just gonna need a little accessory or something to accentuate that style.
SPEAKER_00Or you're gonna need to go with a simple classic, you know, smoother wave or updo or bun or whatever, you know, like you're gonna, it's you just I think you cater to different things. But I do think that you should look for what is your style from the day to day. And yes, you want it to be an elevated day because it's not just a day-to-day, it's a special day. So I do think you want it to be a little elevated, but you still want to be you. Um, I think this comes out a lot more in makeup than hair, where you see these full glam inspo photos, and this girl's never worn even mascara a day in her life. Right.
SPEAKER_01So if you really are a basic, just down-to-earth, not not a glam girl day-to-day, then you definitely need to just up your look, which is gonna be something compared to nothing. So, but still look like you, just look like a pretty, fresh faced. I just love a beautiful, simple glam.
SPEAKER_00I do too. I think um really looking at what is simple natural glam versus full glam. Um and and really figuring out what is your actual style. What do you actually want to look like? Exactly. Um, because I think sometimes you show a full glam and you get a fuller glam, and then you don't feel like you look like yourself anymore.
SPEAKER_01Right. Um, this is where when when we're doing a bride, a trial is really key because it's a good try. Try the lashes, try the makeup, try the hair, and we take pictures, and then from there it's we make adjustments accordingly. So well, I think that kind of covers a lot of basic how to get ready for your event. That's right.
SPEAKER_00Facial keep your face hydrated, no new, no new routines. Don't start anything new, just stick with what you got, yeah, and then try to make it the most enhanced version of what you'd like to be of you.
SPEAKER_01Your prettiest version. Whether you're the bride, the mother of the bride, you're going to a wedding, attending a wedding, attending a graduation. Just keep it flattering, keep it soft, and less is more. Absolutely. Less is more.
SPEAKER_00That's a great note to end on. Less is more. And no goatees. And shave your face. Shave your face. Please, for the love. Shave your face. Thank you for joining us. We look forward to catching you on our next episode of Two Chairs No Filter. Find us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Share us with your friends, leave us a review. We love having you. Thank you for watching. Comment, tell us what you want to hear. Talk to you next time.
