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Break-up Bangs & Other Life Choices.

June 08, 2026 • Hollie & Sarah Kate • Season 1 • Episode 8

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This episode is about to cut bangs or not to cut bangs. Why we let celebrities influence our decisions.

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hi, and welcome to Two Chairs No Filter with Sarah Kate and Holly, where we bring you real life, real beauty, and unfiltered conversation.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Hello, and thanks for joining us on another episode of Two Chairs No Filter. You've got Sarah Kate here with Holly, and we are talking about bangs today.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

It's come up in our conversations this week at the salon. We did Sarah Kate's hair extensions earlier this week, and she's obsessed with Ella Langley and Ella Langley bangs because they're so perfect on her.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

And I just I had a little mental crisis, and I text Holly and the other girl we work with, Deb, and said, talk me out of cutting bangs like Ella Langley. And Deb immediately wrote back and was like, Don't do it, don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

And I'm like, Yes, do it. I'm very pro bangs. You look at my pictures way back to when I was a child, even with my long hair. I have always had bangs so much so that my family was kind of progressive for the 80s, and my mom would always work mornings, and my dad was Mr. Mom. Um, so what I would do back then for fun is I would just stand in the bathroom mirror, the one bathroom we had, and I would curl my hair, comb my hair, do different things with my hair because I had nothing else to do. There was like no TV to watch, barely. So I would just sit and curl my hair. So one day I got mad, like I do, I still do, I have a little mini meltdowns inside, and I chopped my cowlick off because in my head, if I took the scissors and cut my cowlick at the scalp, it would grow a bit different. Oh no. My hair was as long as your daughter's hair, little sissy's hair. Oh no. And it was thick and a lion's mane, like it is. And my dad, who never got upset, never in his life, he flew off the handle. And now I know in my adult years he was gonna get it from my mom.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Oh my gosh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

And he was so How old were you? I don't even remember. I was old enough to be in school because one of my school pictures. Yeah, the my mom fringe braided my hair back, and I have little a little rooster tail coming out the front of my hair. So, with that being said, it didn't work. So don't cut your cowlick off because it is coming back. That's a growth pattern.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Also, don't try to shave your widow's peak off. No, that doesn't go well either. I had a very long conversation, felt like a very long conversation. It was probably only several minutes, but a conversation about that in the car on Thursday night. And that was that was definitely a choice. That was definitely a choice that was made. And um, it's hard to come back from that. That is growing right at the front of your face. Like, holy cow.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Yeah, I've had teenagers do that before.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

Who is giving who is sending out that message that that's the good choice to cut off your widow's feet with like a little dermaplaner? Like, what it's a terrible decision, it's a terrible decision, it's the front and center of your face, and the gallic and your bangs is also the front and center of your face. Like, figure out how to work with it, not try to get rid of it. Lord above.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Short hair pushes long hair, and I learned that early on in beauty school. So using all the texturizing shears and all that, so all that short hair is just gonna push the other hair. It's a mess.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Yes, it's a mess. Like that short hair growing in from your calic is gonna push the longer hair behind behind it in a crazy direction, and so it makes it even worse as it's growing out.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

Right now, back to bangs. Back to bangs. That's awful. Oh, that reminded me of one lady. You know, we do we see all kinds, meet all kinds, and one lady along my journey had a little asymmetrical bob, and she wanted micro bangs. And what she would do with a blow dryer, talk about short hair direction, is push the hair off her face, the longer hair behind it, with her little micro bangs. It painfully hurt me to cut them that short, but we'll do what we do. Yeah, I didn't love it.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Me. Oh, it was mid. Okay. Mid. Well, yeah, it is what it is, I guess. So, all that to say, I didn't know. What do you love about her bangs? Do you love her? Or yes, start there. I love her, love Ella Langley, I love her bangs, and I love her like boho, effortless look, I think is what I really love. Yes, it's very free people, which is what I love. Um I just I don't, they're so good on her face. But like I have cut these bangs before, and the first time I cut them, they looked really good. The second time I cut them, they looked really bad, and I couldn't style them. So the first time I think I don't think I had a kid yet. I must have been like freshly married pre having a baby. So my hair was nice and thick, it was pretty, it was great. I had all the hair I needed to do them and style them, and it worked just fine. Then flash forward to when I cut them the next time, and it was like post two babies. Well, then my hair had thinned out at like the just kind of those recessions up at the front, and so I really didn't have enough hair up there to style them right, I don't think. And also, I was working out all the time at the gym, and they were just so in the way, and I could not grow those bad boys out fast enough, like it was so painful. Um, so I know that I can do it, but I also know that I can't do it, and I also know that my hair is thinner even now than it was after two babies, so I definitely know I should not do it.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

And me, I can't live without them.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

I I think that they hide your recession area spot so well, but they're so thick up front.

SPEAKER_02 6:31

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

But they neither thin them a lot.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

That's so rude. I take a good bit. The other day I cut them and it was just me and Kinsley there before the time I cut them before that. Um, and she was like, You just took that off the front of your hair? And I said, Yeah. She's like, that would have been a lot of hair.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

It would have been. So, okay, I do love Ella's Bangs, and I just love her whole style. So, like, do I in my head, am I just like, I just want to look like her? It's like when everybody got the Rachel haircut just because they wanted to look like Jennifer Aniston. Yes, yes, that's what's happening here.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

And I mean, truthfully, you could cover up the celebrity face or whatever inspo photo you think you want. A, let's just be real. Ella is brunette. All of the things that Sarah Kate is not. Let's just be, let's just start there. So her hair is Ella's hair is gonna look a hundred percent different than Sarah Kate's hair, even with the bangs and the same haircut, because I know color does affect style.

SPEAKER_00 7:35

I know. I'm not cutting bangs. I did say I was not having a crisis. I was like, I'm not having a crisis, but should I cut Ella Langley bangs?

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Because I also think that most people think, oh, you're going through a crisis, that's why you're cutting your bangs. Uh-huh. Absolutely like a breakup. I yes, breakup bangs for sure. Breakup bangs. And never grab the shears, the kitchen shears, and cut bangs after drinking either. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

Don't even trim your own bangs. If you already have bangs, don't trim them after a couple glasses of wine because that's gonna turn out really terrible. Bad. Really terrible. Bad. Um, so all that to say, I did not give my daughter bangs just to see if I would like it or not. Trial and error. Trial and error with my mini me. I did not do that.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

No, but bangs can be useful, especially when we're aging and our front hairline does change. Also, with the recession and our hairline gradually moving back on our head, helps camouflage that. And bangs don't have to go to your eyebrows.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

So my mom with her sweet little pixie cut always has bangs, and it's like, don't cut them too short, don't mess those up because you gotta cover the wrinkles on my forehead because she is not a Botox user. No, that generation is just gotta keep her wrinkles covered with her sweet, sweet bangs.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

I ran into a client. Um, one of my friends passed away earlier this year, and she and I had opened up a salon together. So sadly, at the funeral, I reunited with a client of ours, and I will never forget this client, we'll just call her Bertie, sitting in my friend's chair saying, the bangs are the most important part of my hair. You mess up my bangs, my hair isn't right. And I, when I saw my friend at the funeral, or our former client rather, Bertie, I said to her, I said, that will forever be your tagline.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

I mean, but don't you feel like that's true though? Because if the bangs are not cut right, you can't style them right, and then like every single morning is set up for failure. Every single morning while you're trying to style them is a failure, and it's so aggravating. Very like you are setting yourself up for failure if they are not styled right, or if you don't know how to style them, or if you get them and then you don't know how to style them, like that's also frustrating as can be. Like I always try to teach my clients how to style. Oh, this is what I'm doing to the front of your hairline. This is how we're gonna get this to lay right, but also stay out of your way and and and look like it's supposed to be styled this way.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

I think the easiest way to style bangs is just with a smaller brush straight down on your forehead, and then you can brush them back and forth. Because if you blow it down, then you can flip them back and then you can direct the hair back because and it will soften the part, but that's just for me.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

With you're talking like straight across bangs across your forehead, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Yeah, or I'll do them down and then use the direction of my hairbrush or blow dryer to get them in the direction to push them to the side when I want to.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

So Ella has this tutorial. Don't worry, I've watched it. Oh, really? I want to watch this. Okay, so she's got these, you know, straight across, really thick bangs. If you aren't aware, you should look her up because she's gorgeous and her music's great. Um, but she has these straight across bangs, and so she blows them down from the top down, and then she, once they're fully dry, she separates them in the middle and she crosses the right side over to the left side of her forehead, and the left side over to the right side of her forehead, and she pins it like when she does her makeup. When she pins yes, when she's doing her makeup, and so she pins them flat to her forehead, crisscrossed, crisscrossed at the front. Um, and then when she lets them go after she's done doing her makeup, then they just kind of fall back into the right place. It makes perfect sense, honestly, and they're beautifully styled.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

Yeah, because when I want my hair to go to the side and have a definite part in my bangs, when I'm getting ready, I just pin them um and then the shape of my head right, molds them right to the side.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

I've been doing um because I have longer long curtain, long curtain. They should be shorter curtain, but I forget to trim them. So, anyways, they're long curtain bangs. Um Parks and I both have them. And shh so I have been doing them with um a hot roller, not a hot roller, a velcro roller. Yeah, a velcro roller. So I bl I don't blow mine down, I blow them back up and back. Um and so I do that with a round brush or the curling iron. If my hair's already dry, I just do it with a curling iron, and then I put the curler, the velcro roller in there. Backwards, backwards. Yes, rolling it back towards the back of my head. But then I saw this really dumb tutorial. I tried it, that's why I find it dumb, in which they were like twisting the roller halfway through or something like that. And so I was like, well, maybe it does give it a whole bunch of volume. I don't know. Let me try. I looked like an idiot. I could not deal with my bangs the entire day. They were like curled in front into my eyeballs, like I was so aggravated with them. No, it was the worst idea, anyways. I just stick to my normal velcro roller, roll it back, call it good. That way it's out of your face, out of your makeup. And then it stays out of my face for the day, but still gives me some volume up front. So I like that.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

And to mold your bangs, if you don't have those fancy little clips like you see in on social media or TV, you can just use bobby pens. Oh, I just use bobby pens, yeah. Yeah, totally. Easy peasy. Totally. And I uh learned along the way that actress Kate Hudson always wears hair, wigs, hair extensions, all that in her roles. She never changes. So the movie we watched of her recently that came out earlier this year or last year, those were all wigs where she was the 80s singer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then fast forward to a movie I didn't see in full, Bride Wars. Um, she definitely has a little peat hair.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

Is that where she turns her hair blue?

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Yeah, yeah. Or color subconscious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because her and her friend, her and Ann Hathaway are both like battling it out to who's gonna have the better wedding, who's gonna have the better looks. So they were pulling those pranks. Her hair blue blue at the slot. Uh-huh. But in that show, in the movie, she has bangs, and they're definitely a hair piece, you can tell.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Have you ever seen those clip-on bangs? Yes, of course. I've seen I really want to try them. That's what you should get is the clip-on bangs.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

A little wet.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

I either need to try that or I need to put my face in AI with Ella Langley's and see if it can merge us and see what your hair would look like. Can you give me bangs like Ella Langley in this photo? But a photo of me.

unknown 14:36

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

So even in my bang research yesterday, just look real scientifical research, just looking at social media and different looks along the way, because I had brought up after you said Ella Langley, about the disconnect between her short bangs across the forehead and her very long hair. Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

Which would be the case for me because I have really long hair.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Um, I another actress came to mind, Ann Hathaway, and she a lot of times is wearing bangs, even if they're pushed to the side. And she's got real straight hair.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

Very, yeah. Hers is really straight. I think hers looks sleek though. Um, so when do you feel like it's a good idea for people to have bangs? Like just say you have the perfect head of hair, like do you feel like there's a certain face shapes that it lends itself well to?

SPEAKER_01 15:27

What do you think? I think it's definitely if you have a long, oblong face, okay, I think you could do it. A lot of times, people with a a longer distance between their eyebrows and their hairline, uh, so proportionately a stronger forehead, right? Softens that.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

Somebody that my kids measure their foreheads with their fingers. No. I mean, so they put their fingers like closed, closed hand, I don't really know. Have flat hand, I don't really know. So they hold it up to their forehead from their hairline to where their brow bone is, and like mine's four finger widths deep. And but then like Carter is like five or something. He's like, I have a five head. He's like, I have a five head. So if you have perhaps a five head would be a good a good a good indication that you need bangs. For the record parks does not have bangs and she only has a forehead, so yes.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

So I definitely think bangs come in to and soften that five-finger distance. The five head, I can't gotta leave it to boys. I know. So, yes, I do think bangs play a role. Now, if your bangs get in your face and you can't see a hairstylist, what's the best way to trim them?

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Um, well, I would say not with your kitchen scissors for one. Um, so I mean, if you have a little pair of hair scissors, cheap hair scissors, that'd be great. Even some just some nail scissors would be okay. Um fine point. Just want to fine point. The ones that are in your kitchen are just gonna be too too much. And take too much, they're gonna take too much hair. Um probably not be sharp enough to really cut into them well.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Um, so if you're doing a straight across bang, do not do a horizontal line. No, do not go horizontal with those shears to the hair and go straight across.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

So even when I cut bangs at the salon, I generally cut what they call point cutting. So I just go in with the scissors instead of straight across. Like cutting little V's, cutting little V's in the hair and just start at the very end of them, and then you can work your way up. Don't just be like, oh, I probably need to take off half an inch. No, you don't. No, you don't. So you just need to take off like a millimeter at a time. Would you dry them first? I would dry them first. I would dry them first and don't pull down on them too much, like don't add too much tension. Um, because that's when they spring back up, and you're like, oh Lord have mercy. I call those kindergarten bangs. Yes, I call those kindergarten bangs. Those are like your kindergartner got a hold of their safety scissors and cut their bangs themselves. So that's when they spring back up. So if you're pulling them down too much, and then that hair just elasticizes right back up, and then all of a sudden you have micro bangs.

unknown 18:27

Micro.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

And you'll be here. Oh my gosh. I remember when I just had a flashback. My mom wanted to be a hairstylist at one point in her life. So she would cut our hair, and she had this razor tool that looked, hmm, I can't describe it honestly. Um, it that she would just like comb and cut at the same time with my you know what I'm saying? It was like it has a dog brush, yes, kind of like that, but for humans. And so, with that being said, she always had all these like little roller gadgets. She had hair tape, hair tape with her AquaNet, which sunk to the high heavens. It's awful hairspray in a tin can AquaNet. She had hair tape that she would tape her bangs down to her forehead while she was getting ready if they were too short, or the cowlet, because she's always worn a pixie haircut, or in the crown when it was cut too short. Um, she didn't cut her own hair, but just in general hair tape.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

Hair tape.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Did I make that?

SPEAKER_00 19:31

What are we using that for? I don't even know. But as I say, what are we using that for? I do remember at part two of Ella's bang tutorial, uh, she puts eyelash glue on her forehead and glues the center ones to stay exactly where she wants to.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

I always want to know how they do it.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

There it is. She puts a little dab of eyelash glue right in the like in between her brow bone, basically, in between her brows and sticks those front little bangs to that so they stay there.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Yeah, because my bangs do not stay down all day.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

I don't yeah, you don't need to spray them for that, I guess. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

I do think that that little volumizing powder helps with bangs or put them into place. Also, I really like the do-over, honestly, on my bangs because it gives it the next day, it gives it enough um texture that they're not so clean and do nothing.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Um, what do you feel like about bangs on little girls? I get that a lot.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

I love it. I love it. I like a little Matilda look.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Because you're still a little Matilda. Right? You're still a little Matilda. I I do love a little bang moment, especially like with a little Bob, like a little sleek little Bob. I sure do love it. But I will tell you, it is kind of bangs are kind of a lot of work. I think that's why I hesitate um to put them on a little a little girl, unless like their mom's like, oh no, we'll blow them out every morning. We'll make sure they look good. Because otherwise they look kind of ragamuffin.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Which is cute. Which is it can be cute. I love a little ragamuffin look.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

I really do. I just think bangs are a lot of work. Is I all of this to say bangs are sure a lot of work. I really do want them though, but I'm not gonna cut them. Well, because I'm gonna regret it.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

She's on her way to Europe at this point of recording. Probably when you hear it, she'll be in Europe, and I think she'll come back with a new look. No, what? No, absolutely not. Remember a couple years ago when you came back and you were like, you went all French on me.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

You did, boo, and I came home. You looked like a little Matoda. You look a little, you'd cut your little bob short and you had your little bangs. It was so perfect. I went to Europe and came back and you looked French.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

Yeah. And we're like, that's what all the French girls are wearing.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

It's totally true. It's totally true. Anyways, I don't think I'm gonna do that. I'm not going to France, so I'm not coming back with a little French Bob. Yeah. So But I'll come back and you can have another French Bob. Oh, for sure. I love a cute Bob. And you just have your bangs. That's right. Cover in your wrinkles. That's right. Cover in your recessions. That's right.