Gregor & Hattie Podcast

Greg Manifested His First HYROX Podium, Survived His First Stag Do & We Talk Gym Confidence

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This week on The Gregor and Hattie Podcast, Gregor and Hattie are back for episode three, catching up after a very busy week of HYROX, stag do chaos and a slightly questionable holiday run in Palma.

Gregor talks through his first ever stag do, why running after a heavy night abroad was not his best idea, and the stress of waiting to find out if his HYROX doubles result would hold on for a podium spot. Spoiler: it did.

They also chat about how they both first got into the gym, from awkward early sessions and hiding in the women’s area, to building confidence, finding structure and eventually making the gym feel like a second home.

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My name's Gregor.

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And my name's Hattie.

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And this is the Gregor and Hattie Podcast.

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Where we're gonna talk everything gym, life, relationship, work, bit of everything, really.

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Yeah, and also you guys, as we love you to get involved. We are back for episode three. And our weeks have been crazy once again.

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They're always crazy.

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They are always crazy.

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Something going on.

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Yeah. For me, they've been crazy.

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Me just following you round.

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Anyway, we are so back. And last week I went on a stagdo. That was my first ever stagdo. Yeah. That was pretty crazy. And I now kind of get the videos that you see on social media. Like I get stagdoos now.

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Where was it?

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Uh that was Palmer. Palma de Majorca.

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Magaloof.

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No, it wasn't Magaloof. It was actually next to Magaloof. It was twenty it was 30 minutes from Magaluth.

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Okay, okay.

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Okay. But you did go to Magalhum.

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And you went for a run, didn't you?

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Yeah.

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So that's not normal for a stagdoo.

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No. I was only on the first day though, and then I did throw the tile and I thought, you know what? I'm not doing that again.

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Yeah.

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So it was really cool. You did put on our story though. Shall I run four hours from one place to the other?

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No, that was a four-hour walk. It would have been like an hour and a half run. And then I would have got a taxi back. I wasn't going to do both. But anyway, the the first run that I did when we were there, and they only run actually, I ran and I got like 6k in, and I thought, I've got the worst dry mouth ever. I'm super dehydrated. There's no shops. And I thought, I I think I should run back now. Kind of got myself a bit worried. Anyway, my brother-in-law to be, that was it was his stag. What he's done is he's ran back and got all got all like freaked out because he can't figure out where the hotel is.

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So you didn't run together?

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Well, we did, and then he I continued and he he just had enough.

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Right.

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So he came back. And then yeah, he started running back to the hotel, but in Parma, everything looks the same. As soon as you go down a street, all the buildings are really high, like you can get no viewpoints or anything like that. And then he starts to panic because he cannot find I just burned. He burped.

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Carry on.

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That's throwing me off.

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It just rolled out.

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Oh really? You got any more? Shall I continue?

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Continue.

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Anyway. All the buildings look the same. So he's got really freaked out and he's got really bad dry mouth as well. He's getting super freaked out because he's dehydrated. Obviously, we've just had a really heavy night and we're running at eight, 9 a.m. in the morning. He's gone into the shop asking the shopkeeper, Where's have you got any water, water, water? And then the shopkeeper's like, Are you gonna pay? And he's got I've got no money, I've got no money. So he couldn't pay for the water that he was. But if you know, if you know him, like you'll understand why it's so funny. He just gets really overwhelmed with like anything.

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So he was demanding water, but no money.

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But he had no money on him, but he got the water. Then he was running out of the shop going, he was trying to say the name of the hotel, and obviously no one understood what he was trying to say. But that was that was why was he so stressed? I don't know. I think it's just because you when you're dehydrated and you just want water, like he was obviously very stressed in that.

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Right. But that so that was the exercise done for the weekend.

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That was the exercise done for the weekend, yeah. I wasn't doing that again. No, but yeah, felt good for doing it.

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Yeah.

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Um that's good.

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And also you did a high rox. I did a high rock. Literally like two the day before you went. Yeah.

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Yeah. So it was like a celebration, really, the stag of my Hyrux.

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And of Max getting married. Yeah, of course.

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That was the main one. No, but yeah, we just I came back. So I competed on the Thursday, came back on the Sunday.

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Competed on the Wednesday.

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Oh, sorry, competed on the Wednesday. Went on the Thursday. Well, yeah. Yeah. So basically it was running from Wednesday to Monday. I compete on the Wednesday, I come back Sunday, and I actually got a podium on the Monday, didn't I?

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You did.

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I did.

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So how did your high rocks go?

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Came third. Held on to second. Thank you, babe. Thank you. Came held on to second for the whole time.

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Just thought So it was on Wednesday, and there was Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Monday.

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Yeah, not on Sunday.

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No, there wasn't any on Sunday, but every other day.

SPEAKER_00

Every other day.

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There was men's doubles.

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Yeah.

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And you held on to second until the whole day. Like two hours before.

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Yeah. Also, can I say that was like probably more stressful than the race itself and training for the race is known if you're going to get a podium or not.

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And your partner was messaging you updates.

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I was just trying to enjoy my holiday. He was going, yes, bro, we've we've held on it another day. Still got it. Still got it. And then I remember the last day he found someone on social media that could potentially beat us. So we used tracking them to see if they could beat us.

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He was on it with the tracking.

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He was very on it.

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He was on everyone's Instagram scene what they've got before, what what they could potentially get this weekend, like what time they're on. Yeah, quite sure.

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Actually.

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Yeah.

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I wouldn't have known what to do with that.

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No. I think he's I probably would have.

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Yeah, fair. But like that's a lot of like investigating.

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That is a lot.

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He's gone through people's names.

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And you could it makes no difference to anything. You could just.

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But anyway, all he did is stress himself out more and stress me out. But the last day.

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That was the worst. The last day. That was bad. There was FaceTimes every two seconds.

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Yeah. Because I thought we were so close. Well, obviously we were so close to getting it.

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Well you got third. That's still really good.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I'm buzzing. That's a huge achievement. Especially in the UK. Like the standard of high rocks now in the UK is like insane.

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Yeah. Now you've got a flag to frame.

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Oh no.

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On the wall.

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I've already fallen.

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Loud and proud.

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I got back at 10 at what is it, 10 pm? 11 pm?

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Yeah, we got back at like 11 and it went straight on the wall.

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Straight in the frame, straight on the wall. So proud.

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No messing.

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No messing. Yeah, I'm proud of that. So that happened. Very, very proud. Very happy. I think when I've been trying to get that for like years now, and I've been so like I've always come fourth, haven't I? I've always come fifth. To actually get the podium was was a very cool feeling.

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What do you think you did different?

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I mean what do what would you what would you mean? What do you mean by that?

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What like what do you think you did different to get you on the podium?

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I trained bloody hard.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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You think you upped it massively, do you?

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Uh massively upped it, yeah.

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Did you train together a lot more, you and Will or not?

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No.

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No, so you just got good. We don't train the same though, do you?

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Yeah. But we've just got good chemistry because we're really good friends. Yes.

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That's so cute. Why did we not do well then?

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We've got good chemistry. Yeah, I know. Maybe just not on the day. I don't know we didn't why we didn't do well. Maybe because you don't train hierarchs, my love.

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No, I don't.

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That's maybe why.

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I think if I did though, train like you, our chemistry would be sick.

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Yeah. 100%.

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Okay, well let's do it then.

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Okay. Heard that before.

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And then what have you got this weekend?

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Um this weekend I'm flying to Helsinki. I think I said that right. Yeah. Finland. With my mixed doubles partner. No, guys, this I'm not, it's not Hattie. Unfortunately.

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And people keep commenting on our Instagram, like, couple goals, like, this is amazing that you do this together. That's not his girlfriend. That's not me.

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And we just say as well. Hattie was the one that was like, you should you should do one with Queenie. Yeah.

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We did we did one and then we did another one with like a week's notice. And then Greg wanted to do another one in like a couple weeks. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up, because I'm not gonna be any better in this one than I was in the last one. True. Two weeks before. Why don't you do it with like Queenie? She'll be really good. And she's like on it with her training.

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Very good.

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Yeah.

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But we were so close.

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For our first one, we got like I think she's like way more competitive than me as well.

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Yeah.

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So like.

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You haven't you just haven't got the dog in you.

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Yeah. So I was like, that'll be a good match.

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Yeah.

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And it was because you've got you nearly got sub-hour, didn't you? And then this that's what you're aiming for this week.

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The mixed doubles, which is crazy. So basically, if you are watching and you don't know what worlds is, basically the people that win their age group in mixed doubles or the pro division, they get a ticket to the worlds. Now that's sort of what everyone- Is that like a free ticket? It's not free, no, yes. Oh, you still have to pay. Is it a lot? Pretty crazy that you have to pay for it, by the way. Is it more or I don't know. I don't want to quote me on don't quote me on this, but I think last year in Chicago it was like£300 or$300.

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And then you've got to get there.

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You've got to get there. So don't quote me on that though. But I don't know, I've never been to Worlds.

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Yeah.

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We'll find out. That's a lot of money. But we'll find out.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We'll circle back to this one once it's done.

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I've literally voiced this. I think I've me and Will did voice on the weekend in Cardiff that I was going to get 55 minutes. Yeah, you just voiced that a lot.

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Yeah.

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I said to everyone that I was going to get it. But I feel like that's what you've got to do.

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It's so true though. If you put it out into the world, it's like manifesting it, isn't it? It's gonna happen.

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Yeah.

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The more you say that you're gonna do something, the more likely you are to do it.

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You have to back it up then, I feel.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. So I'm coming for the worlds. I'm gonna get that world spot. To be fair, though. What? Worlds.

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Like to watch, yeah.

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Yeah, probably.

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Okay. Yeah, I'll be there too then.

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That'd be sick. Love you there.

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What filming you.

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Yeah, filming me.

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All my posts are at the moment is me sitting next to you at Hyrux.

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What did you say you were the other day? A Wag, a Hyrux Wag. You're a Hyrux Hyrux wag. Yeah. That's quite funny. You literally just came all the way to Cardiff on Sunday to pick up the hag. To pick up your flag. To pick up the flag. We drove an hour and 20 minutes there, an hour and twenty minutes back, just so we could get my flag. You didn't have to come.

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I did because you told me I had to film you. So I did actually have to.

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Quite like that though.

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Bet you do.

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Yeah.

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No, I do like going to the Hyruxes.

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Yeah, you do.

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It is fun.

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They're they are good fun.

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Yeah. And can I just say everyone knows you at Hyrox?

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I know. I actually really love it though.

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Yeah, I know you do. We're walking around, I'm just like trailing behind him, and everyone's like, hey Greg, hey, hi. You like recommended me these shoes. Thank you so much. Like, can I get a picture of you? I've seen you all over TikTok.

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And I'm just there, like honestly, if I could if I could, I'd stay there in there all day.

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Yeah. Even the guy that was working there, you know, where you had to cross the for the wall balls.

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Yeah.

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And he was like telling people when to go or not. Someone asked you for a photo there, and he was like, God, every every two seconds he's getting pictures taken. Even he noticed it.

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Yeah, yeah. I think he said, I'm gonna stick with you. Did he say I'm gonna stick with you? I'm gonna come around with you or something. I don't know. It was quite funny. But yeah, it was pretty. As soon as I finished the race, it was like people That's you though, isn't it?

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Your UR Hyrux.

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Yeah, yeah, that's what people know me for. But that was cool. I did like that. I wanted to stay there all day. Just soak it all up. I do love it. Um so yeah, that's happened. That's been a busy week um for me. Stag. Have you had a busy week? Obviously, I've been away.

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Well, I've just been following you around. No, it was really nice that you're away, actually. Yeah. I just chilled.

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Oh.

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I did do like some orders and some work and stuff, but other than that, yeah, it was back holiday weekend.

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Oh right, okay.

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Um what did I do? I went to the jazz festival.

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Nice.

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Mum got pooed on by a bird. Oh my god, really? How random, because Will's mum got pooed on as well. Yeah, literally like two days after. So luck is around us.

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Yeah, I don't want to get pooed on.

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Oh, that's all I did. You were only gone for two days. Because I took you on Thursday at 4 30am, went back, went to bed, and then I guess Thursday you were gone. Friday, Saturday, and I picked you up on Sunday. Oh yeah. So it was literally two days.

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I would have liked to have gone for like a week or something.

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And then as soon as you got back, we were back at Cardiff.

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Yeah. Yeah, literally.

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Yeah.

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But usually I struggle with hangovers like wow bad. Like I don't really drink unless it's unless it's four like a minute.

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Are you gonna say that you've done really well?

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Yeah, I have.

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Because you've been in bed until you were in bed till half ten on Monday. And then eight maybe like eight or nine the next day.

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Okay.

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Which is quite a long time.

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Well let's just say you're in bed at that time.

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No, I d I'm not. I get up at seven.

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Your alarm went off at half seven and you weren't up today.

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My alarm went off at seven.

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Alright. We agree to disagree.

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My alarm went off at seven.

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Yeah, but you snoozed it loads.

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Yeah.

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Loads. Hey. Until 7.45.

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And I made you a coffee in bed.

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Yeah, no. That's why I'm not gonna out you.

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You just did.

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Anyway, that was that was our week. And yeah, that was actually crazy week.

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So we're gonna talk about how we got into the gym. And like why we got into the gym in the first place, because why did we?

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Yeah, why did I?

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I know how I started.

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And me now.

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On at school. Must have been 16. No. No. Set sixth form.

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Yeah, so you're like 1718. Just turned 17.

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We had Wednesday afternoons, you either stayed at school and did PA.

SPEAKER_00

No, you told me about that.

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Or you went home and did exercise.

SPEAKER_00

No one's going home and doing exercise.

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No, but I did. That's just what everyone says they're like, you know, that was just like an half day, you just go home.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, so you you went you went home?

SPEAKER_01

I went to the gym.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. Yeah. I thought you went home and did some like press-ups.

SPEAKER_01

That's all I imagine.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, true.

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No, I went home I went to the gym for instead of going home. Whereas a lot of people just went home and chilled. But that's how I got into the gym. And then on a Friday morning.

SPEAKER_00

So what gym did you go to the morning?

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Simply.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

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Or sometimes I'd stay at school and go to the school gym. But that was literally like two treadmills, a rowing machine.

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Not that good.

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And that's it. Yeah. But people pay for that gym.

SPEAKER_00

What still?

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Yeah, like that's a gym that people go to.

SPEAKER_00

Really?

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Yeah. A school gym. But um I went to Simply. And then on a Friday morning This must have been when I was in uni, maybe. Like so just after sick form, I would go with my No, I don't know why I would go on a Friday morning, because I wouldn't have been in uni. But my mum used to go with all her friends and we'd do like a hit workout together.

SPEAKER_00

That's so cute.

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Isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

What like one of the classes you mean?

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No. One of the one of her friends would like run it.

SPEAKER_00

Where where would you do this then?

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Like in the middle of the in the It was like you know, like the where the Hyrux area is where it used to be like the functional fitness area there. There'd be like seven of us. Emily did it as well.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's so cute.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So that's what I did. And then so it was basically just an excuse to go home from school.

SPEAKER_00

And then when did you actually start like fully getting it?

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I think probably just before we met.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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That's awesome.

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Maybe like the year before I started to actually take it seriously, but I didn't know what I was doing.

SPEAKER_00

No, no one does.

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No, I was just like I was just turning up, mainly doing probably cardio.

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Yeah.

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And then a few weights.

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It's just scary, isn't it? Like when you're your first few years, especially when you're that young, you just feel intimidated. So like you'll go, you'll go in, you'll go, okay, I'm gonna lift weights today, and then you just end up sitting on the treadmill.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you just feel good for being there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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But then when you when I started going with my friend, we would like go into the men's bit a bit more. Because that's the thing with our gym, is it's got a women's area, it's got a everyone area.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I like that.

SPEAKER_01

When you first start, you just feel like hiding in the women's area, which I love that they've got the women's area and it's like really good for some people, but I feel like I kind of just found it comfortable and just stayed in there. And when we first started going, there was nowhere near as much equipment in there as there is now. Now it's like a mini version of the main gym.

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Yeah.

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But before there was like it was like all the old equipment that had been moved out and they'd got new equipment in the main bit, they just shovel the rest in the women's. So it's a shame that people kind of just kept me in there rather than actually going out into the main gym for maybe like a year. And then we started going out, but we were doing all stuff, you know, with the pull-up machine, you know, when you stand and like push down with your legs to do your glutes and that sort of thing. Like we're just doing the most random stuff we've seen on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00

TikTok helps though.

SPEAKER_01

It does help, but I feel like it was just telling us to do such random stuff. It doesn't give you structure.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I feel like it's such a shame that people feel like they can't just go to the gym. Like, I love the gym so so much, and I like can't wait to get in there. I can't wait to feel good. But like some people just like like a massive percentage of people as well. Most people that I even speak to that just don't like going to the gym just because they feel like intimidated or they just feel like overwhelmed, like people feel like people are watching them. Yeah, but like no one's doing no one's watching you unless you've got a freak in there.

SPEAKER_01

But there's that's not- No one is watching you. Yeah, no one is, everyone's just watching themselves.

SPEAKER_00

Definitely. But I don't know why I want to be able to. There's something needs to happen so people just get that. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

I think it is just a case of just like pushing through it and just going, putting your headphones on, listening to music, and just like acting as if you're the only person in there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Because I've got to say, like, it does take time to be able to feel like comfortable in the gym.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, some people just do feel comfortable though.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Took me a it took me ages though to feel like, okay, I've I'm comfortable to go into the gym now. Not like overthinking if people are looking at you or stuff like that. And I think that's just part of it. You just need to kind of get past that bit. Then all of a sudden, one day, something just happens, then you just start being friends with everyone, chatting to everyone. Like all my friends now, like my closest friends, are all from the gym.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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Because we all have something in common, we all have something to talk about. That's why I love it so much.

SPEAKER_01

Even we met in the gym.

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Even we met in the gym.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But I do get it because if I go to a different gym to what I usually go to, so I love Simply Gym. I feel really comfortable there. Yeah. If I went to a different gym, I would feel like so uncomfortable. I hate it, don't you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Where I'm like a bit of a gym.

SPEAKER_01

Were you gonna say whore?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah, for what? How should I say that? Where I love just going to new gyms and just trying them out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But again, that's like, how did I get to that point? I think it's just from going so many times and then but I remember what I was saying.

SPEAKER_01

You are a very confident person though.

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Yeah, but even so, like when I was younger and going to these different gyms, I used to be really, really nervous. Like absolutely bricking it. But now I'm like excited to go there. So it's like, what what point do you actually feel like you can go to any single gym and just be like, yeah, I'm gonna tear it up in there?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But I think you have a plan that you stick to, you know exactly what you're doing in your session.

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Yeah.

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If people go into a new gym without having a plan and they're just gonna kind of like look around, try and find a machine, that's more scary.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Rather than you know, like if there's a treadmill, you'll sound pretty much.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I feel like having something to go off, just to tick, not saying you have to pay for a coach, because especially when you're young and you just want to start, you're not paying for a coach. Like, as good as it is to have a coach, you're just not gonna do it. But like having someone to tick off, like Chat GPT, or even go on your notes and like write down, okay, I'm gonna hit chess Monday, like a blower.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what I used to do.

SPEAKER_00

But then like maybe then start getting a bit more in depth, like what exercise you're gonna do. Yeah. So then you know to go back to it next week.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and then like write down what weights you used, and then you can increase the rate weights next week.

SPEAKER_00

Because I feel like once you're following a plan, like you can just like look at it and go, okay, so I've got to go from chess press today to the dumbbell section after. Like you know where you're going rather than like walking around the gym aimlessly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I like not good. Um the advice that I was given was just like walk in, go to a treadmill, go for like a 10-minute walk and just like have a little look round. Like just adjust, know where the machines are, like see how busy it is, what machines are free, and then go into the gym. Yeah. So you've got that little bit of time you can look on your phone at like what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01

Rather than just going in and wandering around, like, what the hell do I do? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because you can just walk in sometimes and just like aimlessly walk around and go, what am I doing here? Then you can start making things up in your head. Oh my god, it's people like looking at me. Yeah. You just start making things up in your head.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I do that. When I when the machine I want's taken, I'm walking around like these people are probably thinking, What the hell is she doing?

SPEAKER_00

Why do you why do you think then you get still overwhelmed going to a new gym? What do you reckon the the reason is?

SPEAKER_01

I think it's just like a lot of people feel it. Yeah. I don't know, it's like because I don't know exactly how the machines work and like where the machines are. Like I could walk around and be like, oh, I'm gonna go do legs over there, but then it might not be a leg machine. I walk up to it and I'm like, oh god, that's the wrong machine, and walk off again.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What would you say your like biggest advice would be to someone that is just down in the gym?

SPEAKER_01

I would say just like get to the gym, get yourself to the gym if you're feeling overwhelmed, like just stop thinking about it too much, stop trying to like put too much pressure on. Even if you just go and do a walk for the first time you get there, just like go. Because people put it off for so long. Yeah, definitely. And then it's like that's achieving nothing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I would probably say like have a have an end goal. Like sometimes just throw yourself in the deep end, whether it's like completely different to my advice, then. Yeah, no. Sounds quite bad, but like just like booking like a 5k fun run, right? You've got that booked. So I feel like if you have something booked, like you're you're gonna go. Because you're like, okay, in the back of your mind, you're like, well, I've got that in like six months' time. I should probably do something, yeah. But still Like there's many, there's many things that you can do, but like there are options. Those two that we've said are just like different options.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like we're thinking about different types of training as well, though, because you're thinking hybrid, running, obviously, and I'm just thinking about like going to the gym, lifting weights.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Whereas like there's not really an end goal for that. I feel like your goals just gotta get bigger and bigger with that.

SPEAKER_00

What I was talking about.

SPEAKER_01

How did you get into the gym?

SPEAKER_00

How did I get into the gym?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you haven't gone through that yet.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, of course. How did I get into the gym? Um I started when I was probably 16. So year 11. So I didn't go to six form. But I used to finish school and walk. I used to get the bus back later, so walked to the leisure centre, train. Bear in mind, I felt so uncomfortable in that gym. Like there is a leisure centre. Yeah. In Evesham. Probably went now. But anyway, I felt so uncomfortable in there for so long. Um why? Because I think it's because the big boys like weirdly used to scare me.

SPEAKER_01

There was big boys in the leisure centre gym. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Of course there was. Well, I thought they were big anyway. Probably now. I'm probably like, oh you're small, mate.

SPEAKER_01

Nothing on me.

SPEAKER_00

Nothing on me. No, you probably are still big. But yeah, just because you're such so young, and you're looking at these guys and they're like double the size of you in the days. But yeah, I used to feel uncomfortable for ages, and I used to watch what they what what I did do that helped. Watch what they were doing and then sort of copy them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I used to do that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And it worked. Yeah. Okay. He's hitting uh dumbbell inclined chest press, and then he's going to the cable fly. I'm gonna do the same because he's got a very good chest. But I genuinely probably only train chest.

SPEAKER_01

You said I remember you saying that you used to just train chest.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, just chest. That's where my chest is like weirdly bigger than everything else. Like well, weird.

SPEAKER_01

Still for not from when you were 16.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but then someone told me as well, you're not fully developed since you're 18, so I didn't want to stunt my growth. I wanted a big chest, I wanted to look good, but I didn't train legs at all.

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00

Because like compressing of like squats, like people do like heavy, heavy squats. Not that I would, but like there's a theory that it can stunt your growth, so I didn't want to risk that.

SPEAKER_01

How tall were you?

SPEAKER_00

Uh probably like 5'11 at that point, probably.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and now you're six foot three.

SPEAKER_00

No, I don't know. I didn't measure myself back then.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if you grow that much. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I was tall. I was tall taller than most people at my school.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe I was like six foot. But anyway.

SPEAKER_01

When what age do you stop growing then? 18.

SPEAKER_00

18, I think. Yeah. Well, that's why I didn't train legs until I was 18. And I probably didn't until I was 20.

SPEAKER_01

I think you just didn't want to train legs.

SPEAKER_00

Probably. But yeah, I did that, and then when I passed my driving test, I used to go into Trooksbury.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, because you were in the middle of nowhere.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I live in the middle of nowhere. So Trooksbury was like 15 minutes from me. So I used to drive there, went to the ledger centre for there for a bit, then went to Real Steel, which was like a bodybuilding gym, and then came to Simply, is where I met you.

SPEAKER_01

Which is a long way for you to drive for Simply.

SPEAKER_00

Every day, half an hour there, half an hour back. Yeah. But it was like such a good gym, and like it had everything.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But like I think Did your friends go there?

SPEAKER_00

No, I dragged them there, yeah. Oh, okay. So it was quite nice.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Your sister went to Worcester for the gym, didn't she? You were like in the middle.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, crazy. They're both 30 minutes, whatever you want.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

For a good gym.

SPEAKER_01

I think Worcester's like I think Worcester's quite far away.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Oh, it is from here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, so that's how you got into the gym, isn't it? That's how I got into the gym, yeah. Unpopular opinions.

SPEAKER_01

Should we do a jingle?

SPEAKER_00

Unpopular opinions. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_01

Let's get into it. What is your My first unpopular opinion?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Hit me. Is Am I gonna be shocked at this? Also, what does it even mean, an unpopular opinion? Like, do you think this?

SPEAKER_01

It's just a general unpopular opinion.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so you don't know.

SPEAKER_01

So then we're gonna discuss it. So we're gonna find out if you think it, if I think it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Couples that always train together shouldn't.

SPEAKER_00

Couples that always train together.

SPEAKER_01

So like you shouldn't always train with your partner.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I mean, in our case, we never train together.

SPEAKER_01

We never train together.

SPEAKER_00

Like ever.

SPEAKER_01

Never.

SPEAKER_00

Because we're just completely like different paths of what we're doing. Um But when we did use to train together, did I think it was optimal? No. Probably not.

SPEAKER_01

It's not. I I just don't think it can be. No. Because we're at such different levels. Even if we're training the same thing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like changing the weights.

SPEAKER_01

Like changing the weights takes a long time.

SPEAKER_00

That's effort.

SPEAKER_01

It's nice to do every now and then.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But I just don't think training as a couple together is very optimal.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's definitely not. Yeah, it's just actually takes ever m everything so much longer. Yeah. Changing the weight.

SPEAKER_01

And also we'll probably chat for ages in between.

SPEAKER_00

So not optimal.

SPEAKER_01

No. I I agree that I don't think that's good. I don't think you should train together every day.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, do you want my unpopular opinion? Um that one machine you avoid Yeah. That's the one. That's the one you most need. What do you think to that one?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Give me an example of what you would avoid.

SPEAKER_01

So I used to avoid doing biceps.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because I was like, well, I told myself I was like, I don't want biceps because they were hard.

SPEAKER_00

And now all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_01

And now I've started training them and I'm like obsessed.

SPEAKER_00

I look good with biceps.

SPEAKER_01

But it's it's just like a mental block, isn't it? It's like it's hard, so you don't want to do it. But obviously that's you need to do it because you're looking in proportion and then you have good shoulders, but tightly. Although the only thing is like chest, I don't want to train chest. I don't care about chest. Like I will avoid that. I don't care about that.

SPEAKER_00

Some popular opinion.

SPEAKER_01

Well, like why But what's your opinion on the first one first?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, the first one. I would say. Wait, what was it?

SPEAKER_01

The machine you avoid is the one you meet.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. Like I think yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You do you agree?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm I'm saying it's not a machine, but it's it's a it's an exercise. Split squats. You need those.

SPEAKER_01

I love them.

SPEAKER_00

You've got issues. I think they're horrific. But they're so good for you. Like doing that, I'm like, my legs are my legs are wham.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But do you agree though that that I don't want to train chess, I don't need to train chess, I don't need that machine. So that's like a different thing.

SPEAKER_00

Well it's like abs, right? People think, oh, I don't need to train abs. No, you do.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but that's different.

SPEAKER_00

How?

SPEAKER_01

To my chest one.

SPEAKER_00

Is it?

SPEAKER_01

I don't want a big chess, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah, but you don't really Well that's my other unpopular opinion.

SPEAKER_01

That's how many of you can't.

SPEAKER_00

This is my other one. It's like, do girls need to actually train chest? Like what's the benefit?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

I don't really understand.

SPEAKER_01

But I guess it I I do get that like if you want a strong chest, then train train chest. But I don't.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'm just trying to like figure out in my head like why.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I guess in some situations maybe a strong chest comes in handy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Do you reckon you could flex your chest if it got it?

SPEAKER_01

I don't train it.

SPEAKER_00

Because I can flex mine.

SPEAKER_01

That's cool.

SPEAKER_00

I can do the the rock booby bouncing.

SPEAKER_01

Do you want should we do it on the video?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_01

Right, my next unpopular opinion is people overcomplicate nutrition.

SPEAKER_00

True.

SPEAKER_01

I think so.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because depends how what you like to eat and how much you like to mix up what you eat, but you could just eat the same thing every day and get the same nutritional value.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We pretty much eat the same thing every day.

SPEAKER_02

I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But I love it.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I wouldn't have it any other way. I know, I love it. And it's way less stressful than trying to think of a new meal every day.

SPEAKER_00

And like, I don't like waste, so like, if we want a new meal, like we're gonna get that get it all in, and then it's all gonna be wasted. Vegetables are gonna go mouldy. Yeah. It's like I'd rather know exactly what I need, use all of it, absolutely all of it. Yeah. Like couscous and chicken fies and garlic mail. Whoa. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

That's our jam at the moment.

SPEAKER_00

It's a jam. But every time you put it in front of me, I just smile. I'm like, this is so good.

SPEAKER_01

And breakfast, like porridge, banana, strawberry, blueberry.

SPEAKER_00

Also, that with peanut butter. What you've started making in the mornings is so.

SPEAKER_01

I've been having that for a while.

SPEAKER_00

I know, yeah, but you made it for me one day.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was I was keeping it a secret from you.

SPEAKER_00

So good.

SPEAKER_01

It's like binoffee, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Unreal. Tastes like it's golden syrup um oats. Yeah. With oat milk, heated up. Yeah. Then you've got banana on there, you've got strawberries, you've got blueberries, you've got dark chocolate, you've got peanut butter and honey drizzled over the top.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_00

So good.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm never gonna get bored of it.

SPEAKER_00

No, I don't see no you say that, mate. We've no, I'm never getting bored of it.

SPEAKER_01

That's different though. This is nice, yeah. This is this is forever.

SPEAKER_00

You reckon? Yeah. Um that is my unpopular opinions. Is that all of yours?

SPEAKER_01

I had one more.

SPEAKER_00

Another one.

SPEAKER_01

You need to train six days a week.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no. You don't train twelve. No, I'm joking. No, you don't, no, you don't. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_01

Depends on your lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00

Depends what you want to get out of training. Like what I need to get out of training, like I need to train more than that. But yeah, if you just want to get bigger and look as good as you can, like training three days a week is probably plenty. You need to give time for your muscles to repair.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. And if you've got a busy life, like say you're a mum and you just want to like have a bit of time to yourself, bit of like keep your fitness up, three times is plenty of things.

SPEAKER_00

I think like three times is like the sweet spot.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

As long as you go hard in those sessions and really take things to like failure and be there and not get not cut your session short, just like full attention to that one hour session, yeah, you'll make some serious progress.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because last week I was going to the gym. I think I went like six days and I was stressing myself out because I knew I needed a rest day, but like I just kept going to the gym. I didn't know why I kept going. But then yesterday, I I was like, my muscles are aching, my legs are aching, my upper body's still aching. So what the h what am I gonna train? And it was really annoying me. And I was like, I just need to take a rest day, and just I just did cardio and abs. And now today I feel reset again, ready to go again. But your body does need a rest day, otherwise it's just it just like all builds up and it gets a bit overwhelming.

SPEAKER_00

I do, I am good at listening to my body to be fair. Like if I'm like, oh my calves feel tight, or oh my legs, my quads are like in a bad way. I will I will take a rest day.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what you've got to do, just listen to your body.

SPEAKER_00

Definitely, definitely. Just yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Cool. Right, we've got a couple of questions that I've screenshotted from people that have written them in. Right, this is a bit of a rogue question, but how many babies do you want?

SPEAKER_00

How many babies do I want? Ooh, ten. That sounds like how I think I want two. But I would like I would like three.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think three. I'll see how it feels with the first one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you're probably getting hired.

SPEAKER_01

Just one's fine.

SPEAKER_00

Do you know what? Do you know a funny quote? A quote someone said to me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

When you are given birth, um, apparently if the man goes down to the bottom, it l it's like his favourite pubs being burnt down. So not to go down there.

SPEAKER_01

Not to go down there.

SPEAKER_00

I thought I'd just share that with everyone. Basically, don't go down there.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Can you imagine that?

SPEAKER_01

Right. Well, that's a bit of advice for everyone.

SPEAKER_00

That's like gin and juice one three one. No, actually, it's like Dunkerton's burning down. I'd be devastated.

SPEAKER_01

You would, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. No more ang mango cider or pizzas. Gut it.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Anyway, yeah, I think I think two or three.

SPEAKER_00

Two or three.

SPEAKER_01

Depending how it goes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Glad we agreed on that. Yeah. Do you reckon it would have been a problem if we didn't?

SPEAKER_01

If you only wanted one, I think that would have been a problem.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But I think you've grown up with siblings. So I thought you'd want more than one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, fair.

SPEAKER_01

Um this person said, Hey guys, just want to say well done. You're both so inspiring in every way. I actually see you both in the gym almost every day and wanted to start a social media myself for a while, but not sure how to start, what to post, etc. Any advice?

SPEAKER_00

Oh. These are like my favourite sort of interactions. Like, I love it when people come up to us and say that. Like I love it when people actually say it. Oh, that's really nice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

If you are gonna make content, what would my biggest advice be? It would probably be really come out your comfort zone. I know it's if it's something what I think what I feel, if it makes me feel on edge, not on edge, but uncomfortable uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01

This is how I You need to get comfortable feeling uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_00

Because I can tell you now, every time you feel uncomfortable and you're doing something uncomfortable, that is where you're gonna progress the most. Yeah. And it's every time I need to make a video that I feel uncomfortable. For example, when I go up to people in the uh high rocks and like ask them about, you know, when we're trying to promote race the frame, I'm like super scared to do that. But I know the video will pop off, it will do really well, perform really well, and it will just support us.

SPEAKER_01

I know those videos will do well, so it's just coming out your yeah, it's so saturated now that you have to like stand out from from everyone else that's making content and actually do something like a little bit different.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01

Nothing to also find a niche and post within that niche because And also you've got to enjoy it. Yeah, yeah. So find a niche that you enjoy, and then social media will like will pick up on that niche pretty quickly if you decide to start posting straight off the bat with that niche, yeah. Social media will pick up on it and it will push out to people that enjoy that content straight away.

SPEAKER_00

Definitely agree.

SPEAKER_01

Um and also just be yourself, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00

And as well, if you can, not not every case you can. I think something that I wish that we did more of is trying to get our personalities across so people knew what who we were.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um obviously our content was always comedy and it it made people laugh.

SPEAKER_01

It was like made-up scenarios, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00

It would be nice for like the people to know who we are. I think that's why we started the pod, really. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um what Dow has anyone else said anything about it?

SPEAKER_01

There was one more, and it was just how did Gregor first hear about HIRARCHs?

SPEAKER_00

I heard about good question. How did I hear about HIRAX? I probably heard of it via social media, more than likely. I just sort of started to see more of it crop up, and then as social media is you view it once, twice, three times, it's gonna start coming in like a lot.

SPEAKER_01

Was it like 2023?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe 2022, 2023.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, 2022, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

You did your first one in 2023?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. No, it's 2022 because it was the start of I feel I did my first one in 2023, that was February. Okay, yeah, so 2022. I mean 2022, and obviously I would have had to train for it.

SPEAKER_01

There was no high-rocked gyms or anything then, was there?

SPEAKER_00

And then all of a sudden it just went poop.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Went crazy. And I love it.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You're addicted straight away.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I think it was quite it's quite crazy how that sport managed to pop off though, I feel. Because it is obviously, don't get me wrong, it's accessible for everyone. All ages can do it. But how would you start it? Was the was the real concern. Like, everyone that's coming into this don't really know, like, especially then, then it's obviously a nicer now because you've got high-rocks classes and so on, coaches. But then, like, how did they how did these people train for it?

SPEAKER_01

I think it was it wasn't so much training for it, for it to be like a competition. Yeah. Like a big competition. It was more like a it was more just everyone can do it, you just enter. Yeah. Like a 5k race kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think that's what it was more like then. But now it's obviously come on so much, it's like they're trying to get it in the Olympics, aren't they? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so it's a lot bigger.

SPEAKER_00

Huge, yeah. So I think it's just how it's evolved now. But yeah, now I look at it, I'm like, how did I even get ready for it?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think you did really. I think you just gave like gave it a go.

SPEAKER_00

It was a it was yeah. That first one. Wow. Wish I got it.

SPEAKER_01

You probably just did like run throughs of it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Oh god, that one hurt. Do you remember? I was asking, I was like, even like And it was a singles. Even running round going, how many laps have I done? Like shouting at hate, how many laps have I done? Didn't get a penalty by the way, at all, which I'm just doing, just not getting a penalty on your first one.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Bravo. That's tough. But I remember going, what have I got next? Didn't even know which one.

SPEAKER_01

And me and your parents were stood there thinking, I don't know anything about what's going on.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We're just here to support. Yeah. Well, that's all my that's all the questions.

SPEAKER_00

I just yawned. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, I just wanted to get you back for you burping.

SPEAKER_01

Burping and yawning. Right. Well that is our talking about you anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Episode three is complete.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That was so much fun.

SPEAKER_01

You look like you've been crying now.

SPEAKER_00

I couldn't help it.

SPEAKER_01

You really look like you've been crying.

SPEAKER_00

Do I?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Do you want to wipe your eyes?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'll wipe them. That was fun. I liked chatting to you again.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_00

Next week? We'll do it again.

SPEAKER_01

We'll see you here next week.

SPEAKER_00

I wonder what's gonna happen next week. Oh, we'll be able to tell you how we got on in Finland if we've got the world spot on.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Hatti was will be being a high rocks wag again.

SPEAKER_01

We'll be wagging around.

SPEAKER_00

Wagging around. We'll tell you what Helsinki's like as well. Heard good things.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I've heard it's expensive.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I've heard that expensive.

SPEAKER_01

From you actually.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I heard that from someone. I don't want to know if it's expensive.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

And let's get there and look at that.

SPEAKER_01

When you're away, it's just monopoly money anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Change it up and worry about a layer.

SPEAKER_01

What's that?

SPEAKER_00

Change it up and worry about a layer. What does that mean? Right, change it, change it up to Euros or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So if you have any embarrassing gym moments or gym crush stories you want to write in, please. We'll leave the link. Rich, where's the link?

SPEAKER_00

It's in our bio.

SPEAKER_01

We'll leave the link in our bio.

SPEAKER_00

Link in bio. But yeah, we'd love to know any stories.

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Yeah.

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The more you can tell us, the better.

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Better. The better. Yeah. Thank you for watching.

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