Meet Greg’s mixed doubles partner Queenie! How she started social media, got into hyrox & tips for race day

In this episode of the Gregor and Hattie Podcast, Gregor and Hattie are joined by special guest Queenie - Hyrox athlete, content creator and fitness influencer fresh back from competing in Helsinki.

The trio break down their huge podium finish in Finland after placing third in Mixed Doubles, missing out on a World Championship spot by seconds. They chat through the intensity of racing abroad, the chaos of Hyrox competition, controversial wall ball judging, race-day nutrition and the reality of pushing for elite times in one of the fastest-growing fitness sports in the world.

Queenie also opens up about how she first started social media during lockdown after a viral Dyson Airwrap video, balancing content creation with a full-time career, and how fitness completely changed her routine, mindset and confidence. From 5am training sessions and meal prep to discipline, relationships and the addictive nature of competition, this episode dives into the reality behind the fitness lifestyle online.

There’s also stories from Helsinki, nearly driving on the wrong side of the road, discussions around marathon goals, future Hyrox plans and why finding like-minded people matters more than ever.

A fun, honest and motivational episode packed with fitness chat, travel stories, mindset and behind-the-scenes insight into competitive Hyrox life. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:07

My name's Gregor.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

And my name's Hattie.

SPEAKER_03 0:09

And this is the Gregor and Hattie Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Where we're going to talk everything gym, life, relationship, work, a bit of everything, really.

SPEAKER_03 0:16

Yeah, and also you guys, as we love you to get involved. Welcome back to episode four.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Yay!

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Now we have a very special guest today introducing Queenie. She is my mixed doubles partner. You're also very big in the fitness industry and also fashion.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

And fashion, yeah. Fashion, yeah. Fashion's how it started, isn't it? Beauty is how it started. Yeah, beauty.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:41

How sick.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Now with Queenie, um, we actually did our first ever high rocks in Glasgow, wasn't it? Yeah, Glasgow. And I messaged you and I was like, fancy, fancy?

SPEAKER_00 0:51

It was like the day after I'd already raced, wasn't it? Where was I raised Manchester, didn't I? Yeah. It was like the day after, and I was like, hmm. I was like, let me think about it for a day.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

So we did that. Um we actually got sponsored by Puma to do that, which was really exciting. We actually wore all Puma and we got a really good time. Yeah, we did, yeah. We got like fifth in our age group, didn't we? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Just over an hour, didn't you? Yeah, one hour and fifty four seconds or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

And that was my first seven mixed doubles, and I well, apart from you, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Yeah. Yesterday, Greg goes, um, my favourite mixed doubles partner about Queenie.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

Shall I say my favourite competitive mixed doubles partner? We just do it for fun. Yeah, we just do it for fun. We do it for the shits and gigs. Um, but yeah, we did really, really well there. And then we've just come back from Helsinki. I don't know if you can see behind us, but oh, flags.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

We absolutely smashed it. Um we came third.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Came third, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:52

We went out to come first, but I think a lot of people competition was too hard, wasn't it? So, like literally Finland, the whole podium was UK. UK, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

It was such a good race to watch, though.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Yeah. Like that was the first time I've actually gone out and tried to race someone.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

It felt like it was all in our wave as well. As everyone who won were all in our wave.

SPEAKER_04 2:12

Yeah, exactly. So you know the top three were all in the same wave. I felt like I was in the Elite 15, like chasing them down.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Honestly, my heart was going on those burpees.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

But like I didn't actually know, so like the people that got 55 minutes, they were in our wave as well. But I didn't realize they were in the same age baby.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

Yeah, yeah, I didn't realise we're in our age group, but I only see them on the ski, and then after that I didn't see them again.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

They were gone. But then I I just thought they would be like in a different age group.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

I thought they would be in the age group of Bob Bulls to be fair, but but yeah, I think that guy's like 19, 18 or 19, that was mad.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

Crazy. Fair play to him. Yeah. Um, but yeah, the people that we were racing, I think we got to the burpees. We were like sort of I could see them in the distance on every everything that runs the stations, got to the burpees, took them on the burpees. Yeah, um, that run was that hurt that was.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Because me and Mads both knew you you were really good at burpees, both of you. So we were like, Greg was like next to me. I go, Greg, you've got to take them on this.

SPEAKER_03 3:01

Yeah, yeah, I heard you can't take them. And I was like, Yeah, I can do that.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

You did though, didn't you? Yeah, we didn't get it. Yeah, we right at the very end. Right at the very end. But their running was really good, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 3:11

Their running was really, really good. Yeah, yeah, he was running like a 36 minute 10k. Yeah. That's quick. Um, but we we're only like 40 seconds behind them, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Yeah, about 40 seconds, yeah, not long at all.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

Put a solid, solid time down, got third, didn't get the um world spot, but I mean getting a flag's pretty close.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

Yeah, flag's close enough, isn't it? Yeah, the world spot would have been 55 minutes to be it's two weeks. We're not there yet.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

If you've got worlds, then like what would you be working towards? You need to build up to that. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 3:42

You can't just have it straight away, you know. Yeah, that would be that would be a good look. And Queenie and Gregor have just crossed the line. Um but yeah, so that was really exciting. Finland was was good fun. Yeah, it was. Like really different sort of culture out there.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:02

Um surprised me. Yeah, did it surprise you?

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Felt really futuristic.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

Yeah, that's what I thought. I felt like I I can't even describe it. Like it have did you ever watch Black Mirror? Yeah. Have you watched it? If I like an episode of Black Mirror, yeah, it actually did.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

And the fact that you can get paid to recycle.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

Yeah, you can't go over that card.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

That is insane. We were literally in Lidl, we walked into Lidl, and you could see people like with big bags of cans, and they were just like putting them through this hole. And the money was going up. I was just like, I was like, how bizarre is that?

SPEAKER_00 4:31

No, I know there's no litter though, because you can just recycle it all and get paid.

SPEAKER_03 4:34

And then what did that guy say that we met at the airport? He was like, Oh yeah, we were just sat and someone was going through the bins.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Oh yeah, the recycling bin next to them. Yeah, and he was drinking a monster and he had his can on the side, and someone picked up his monster and he was like, People that back, I'm not done with it. And someone's gonna recycle it.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

We just tracked ours in the bin though, didn't we? Yeah. That was so silly.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

We should have just gone to Liddham.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

Yeah, recycled them all.

SPEAKER_03 4:53

But I think you do pay 15p it was. Well, it's tax on the can. So you're just getting that money back up.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

Yeah, you're not really making any money unless you're getting out of the pins.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

But otherwise, that's like an expensive.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

Yeah, unless you're getting out of the bin. Yeah, killing.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

You can make a killing. That's weird because I was we were driving back from Hyrux and I saw someone in the bins in like from a distance, like really, really far. Like big bins. In Helsinki. Yeah. And I didn't say anything, but I now get it, because when he said that at the airport, I was like, oh, he was looking through the bins as well. He was looking through the bins as well. Crazy. But it is wild clean.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

It's so clean. You do not see any rubbish. So clean.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

I loved that. It's not like yeah, you walk run walk past the road, so can't speak.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

You're like, where's the chewing gum on the floor? Yeah, there was no chewing gum on the floor. I wasn't just gonna say that, but I thought it was a bit weird. Yeah, there was no chewing gum on the floor. That's just normal. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

And they don't apparently they don't really like go out. Not many people go out past like six. It's how quiet.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

It's so straight. It's like a ghost town, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 5:50

Yeah, it was cool. I think the only thing with like going abroad for a high rocks as well is you can't really do much.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

No, we were there for one night. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

You don't want to walk around too much, you can't really explore, which is a bit annoying.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

Yeah, so first day you can't do it, you guys couldn't do anything really. No, not really. And then sleep, and then you were on in the morning, then Mads was on, and then it was Sunday, there was like nothing to do.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

Yeah. And when she finished, she just knuckered. Yeah. You don't really want to do anything.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

How'd you feel today? I feel fine, really.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

We got in at four. Oh, by the way, we nearly died on our way home.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Just brush over that. No, I'm not brushing over there.

SPEAKER_03 6:27

That you've somehow gone into the other side of the road, like, and like going ahead, going a head-on with the road.

SPEAKER_00 6:33

Straight on. You were so scared. There's no urgency, gosh. You were so oh, I'm on the other side of the road.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

But then we both up like, what?

SPEAKER_01 6:42

I literally felt you all sit up in the car.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

And then we've all gone, all right, don't panic, don't panic, just pull into there. Queenie's like got it. I know, yeah. Queenie's like popped her head through through the middle. Don't worry, don't panic. Oh, I'm panicking.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

It's alright, it's fine. I literally was like convinced, I was waiting for a car to call. And I was thinking, why am I doing that? Like, I was full over. Yeah, pull over. I was trying to look at the arrows on the road. I was like, Queenie, she's on the wrong side of the road. Yeah, that was that was just keep going and you can get back in so we can see a car and it'll be alright. I was like, what am I thinking? Why am I thinking?

SPEAKER_03 7:19

That was stressful. That happened, not happened twice, but like we had another incident as well earlier on. Yeah. And that was like waking up to that was like pretty stressful, I can't lie.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

But it woke me up, it was quite good. Yeah. Yeah, like you know when you're driving and you're like getting a bit tired, but it it gave me a bit of adrenaline. Okay, yeah, I I kept waking.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

I was like nodding off, and I was waking up and I kept looking at the time on the sat nav, and every time I woke up, it was only going down by like two minutes, but I felt like I'd been asleep for ages. So I was like, oh please, wake up and check she's alright. And then I wake up and it was like two minutes. I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 7:49

Yeah, we all felt really stressed for you to be fair. Really concerned.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

Yeah, well, you didn't seem it. Silent sleeping.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Yeah, but I did keep waking up and night looking.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

It was only Queenie that was checking on me. Are you allowed to be? She was like, Hattie, are you okay? Do you want to do you need to stop?

SPEAKER_02 8:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

I think if I stopped, I would just like it just long it out.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

No, sometimes it's worse if you stop, but then like you always I think when you're driving yourself, if you don't think about stopping and someone doesn't say, Oh, do you want to stop? Yeah, you don't think that stopping's an option to kind of forget.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

But that was good. Yeah. That was eventful.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

I wanted to ask you guys what your favourite part of your hierarchs was.

SPEAKER_03 8:25

I feel like this is finishing it. Yeah. I feel like this is about to drop, you can hear it.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Oh, I thought you were gonna say, I think this is my favourite part.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Is it not obvious? That is probably my favourite part. If you get a podium, that's a cool feeling.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

Yeah, it is. It is a good feeling. Definitely.

SPEAKER_03 8:41

Especially with like how the standard is now, like it's so it's so competitive. Yeah, it's not easy, is it? It's not easy to get up there. And like, even going to Helsinki, I thought in my head, okay, that's our one shot at worlds, we'll be able to get first place. Everyone had the same idea. Everyone from the UK just kind of goes there. Last minute, isn't it, as well?

SPEAKER_00 9:00

Like you think weeks before you check in, you think, oh, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. Yeah. And then even the day before, like, new people are entering, like my coach texted me and he was like, Oh, yeah, I've got another pair, like entered. And I was like, great.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

Yeah, but like Zoe and Danny Ray, they jumped on it. Last minute. Oh, it knew it's oh it's gone.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Quickest pair was 51 minutes, which is mad.

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Yeah, that's insane, isn't it? Yeah, like mixed doubles double shit.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

51 minutes, yeah. Wow. They'd finished when we I think we were on like our second or third run.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

Third run, yeah, second run, and they I heard them on the microphone that they finished, and I was like, well.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

They were a different wave then. Yeah, there were a different wave, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

They looked strong though, didn't they? When they were yeah, it's cool.

SPEAKER_03 9:41

They are elite, elite. Yeah, yeah, elite. Um, but yeah, I'd say that I think the wobbles is my favourite part of the race.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Really?

SPEAKER_03 9:49

It's it's the hardest part.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

But like the wobbles messed up.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

And like singles, like you're just adrenaline.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

It's the adrenaline. I was gonna say the adrenaline hits you, and I think it's because like that's where the morph people are, yeah. And the music's the loudest, and like everyone's watching you. They they're on the mic as well, there, aren't they?

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Yeah, it's just a like the atmosphere there's insane. No, the atmosphere's good everywhere, but like there's like really, really good.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

You must have been really annoyed then when you got to wobble's.

SPEAKER_03 10:14

Yeah, so we come into wobble, I was pacing it, so I pace it on my watch the whole way, and I know we came into wall balls and we were on pace by like two seconds, so that was for like 5820. We've come to the wall ball target, and then so we got sent up to the top, yeah, and we got to like the second rig from the top in.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Yeah, yeah. Obviously, you couldn't you were going in and doing the wall balls. I was kind of looking about to think like what is going on, and there was a couple next to us, and the judge was like not in between, he was on the end to check her depth, yeah, like going down.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

He should have been in the middle, and he should have been in the middle, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

So it's not it it's it's hard, isn't it? Because it's not the judge's fault because obviously he was checking her depth, but then like we got sent to a spot that didn't technically have someone judging it. Do you not normally have one for each other? Yeah, so no, there's one person for two, two, so like the standard the line of the box separating you, like the sit in the middle there, don't there, and watch between like them both.

SPEAKER_03 11:05

No, I get it, like that must have been that judge's first um like person to come to come to the thought wave. Yeah, that's what I mean. So like that was his first um athlete to to be there to go in. So he that was probably his first time ever doing it, mind.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

Yeah, yeah. So he's obviously thought, I'll go and check the depth, like I'm better off from this angle, yeah, and then not realise that we've come in. We've come in, and then obviously you started and it was on the wrong target anyway, because no one started to change it to the top target. Yeah, do about seven reps.

SPEAKER_03 11:31

Seven, eight reps, try to pump them out, and I'm going, can you change it? Like being really chill, can you change it? Wasn't changing, got to like six reps, seven reps, and I thought, dropped it, fuck this. Um, then ran back down to find somewhere else.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

But then like I think everyone was kind of like, We went, What the fuck are they doing? Yeah, what are they doing? What are they doing? So then, like, we it was just finding someone who was actually paying attention and then managed to get one to go. She was already judging someone next to us as well.

SPEAKER_03 11:54

She was a bit spun out, she was like, What is it?

SPEAKER_00 11:56

But it wasn't the right target that one, was it?

SPEAKER_03 11:58

But that wasn't the right target, so that was good. So then we just kind of that that was but we luckily got it on video so we could figure out how long we lost. So I wasn't like when I finished I wasn't angry or anything like that. I just don't think you should be angry at any of the judges because they've like actually.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Yeah, it's just it's just you want what you've earned. Yes, yeah, you want your brace on you.

SPEAKER_03 12:18

A lot of people I know would like kind of come out of that and be like angry and like short and stuff. Like, that's not what you want to do. You kind of just want to speak to someone, go to the help desk, and they will take the time. It will, yeah, it does get fixed, definitely. You have to explain it, show them the proof. Um but they will sort it.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

I think being a wallwall judge would be so hard anyway. Like I'd find it so over like stimulating in general. The music, the pressure, like and then judging two people at the same time, trying to like watch all day everything.

SPEAKER_03 12:44

I don't know how many they hours how many hours they do it for, but like imagine doing that for four hours.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Yeah, even two people on at the same time, because they always do the wall wall judges, don't they?

SPEAKER_03 12:53

Always hear them like if they especially if they know you, they like shouting your name and it is cool. But yeah, that was that got sorted. So we did that was good get 58-58 and put down to 58-38, so we've got 20 seconds deducted. Yeah. So buzzing with that. Um but yeah, that was that was high rut sales inky.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Yeah, ticked off.

SPEAKER_03 13:13

Ticked off.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

Done.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

Happy days. Um, but yeah, Queenie, once we want to know when you started social media um and like how you first got into social media. Because it wasn't actually fitness, was it?

SPEAKER_00 13:25

It was not fitness, no. It was um funnily enough, I actually was it in lockdown, I want to say. Yeah, so it was kind of like started in lockdown. Yeah, it was kind of like lockdown. Um, and my mum actually bought a dice and air wrap. This is so random. Um, so I just posted a video like using the Dyson Air wrap on my hair. Went viral. Yeah, yeah, like overnight. Went viral. So I just thought, like, oh, I'll just keep doing bits and bobs. It was amazing, like mainly hair, and then I'd like started doing bits of makeup and like fashion and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 13:57

Yeah, and it just went just kept going, kept going, kept snowballing. Yeah, it's mad, it was crazy. It's mad how like people started, isn't it? It's a lot of people did start in lockdown. Yeah, lockdown was such an opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Yeah, but then obviously everyone was just sat on the phones doing everything, weren't they?

SPEAKER_03 14:13

So like if you did post a video in lockdown, I feel like it would have done well, wouldn't it? Yeah, no matter what it was, yeah, yeah. And then obviously it's like so hard. Like social media is getting harder and harder now.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Yeah, because everyone wants to do it, don't they? Yeah, so it's finding what's like a niche to be set you apart from it, really.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

Definitely, and then you still do your fashion stuff as well, don't you?

SPEAKER_00 14:32

Still do fashion, yeah. Mainly when I go on holiday and stuff like that. Yeah. I don't really do like winter's not really my my scene. No, so I prime in summer so hard, but then like winter, I'm kind of like kind of having it.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

I guess it's hard as well to like balance it with fitness because like I always live in gym clothes because I'm like love my fitness, so you probably find the same thing, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:50

Yeah, I do, I mainly wear gym clothes all the time. Yeah, if I'm not at work in like uniform, but then it's just comfier, yeah. Literally, and then like I got I remember I went out the other day and they were like, Oh, what are you wearing? And I was like, Oh, I've got a gym set on. And they were like, Oh, I've got real clothes on. I was like, Oh, real things. I should probably actually do that, really. But I literally forget that it existed. But yeah, holiday, great on holiday, love it, like outfits and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

You like plan your outfits, don't you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:17

Yeah, literally we've seen the plan going to Gregor's sister's wedding, and she was like, I haven't found a dress. And I was like, I'm on it, I can find the dress. And literally all day yesterday, I was like, What about this? Yeah, this one, what about this? Have you seen this?

SPEAKER_03 15:28

She has actually been sort of, yeah. She's like a personal shopper. Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

It's really good. I love it, I live for it. I don't see if you think I'm bad, my sister, oh my god. Really? Oh. So when you're together, you're just so bad. So bad. Maisie, like in a free time, she's just she's shopping all the time.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

It's really therapeutic though. I think I'm scrolling through. I just don't buy it. I look at it and I don't buy it.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

Yeah, but you like are constantly looking at stuff.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

See, I get like a hit off buying things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like a and a parcel turning up. Yeah, like I love it, and then I I don't even need to wear it, I'll just open the parcel and think like, this is good. And then I'll get another one, do you know that cuts up like satisfying?

SPEAKER_01 16:03

I said to Greg on the when we were about to get on the plane, like, it would be nice if we had a package waiting for us when we got home. Yeah, yeah. I love it. It's such a good feeling.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Yeah, it is a good feeling. I do love parcels.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Yeah, I love parcels.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

So people don't really know that you work full time as well. No, people don't know that.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

A lot of people think I do it like content full time. Yeah, because I didn't know you work. Yeah, I work full-time, probably work more than full-time actually. Yeah, yeah. Very busy person, yeah, very busy. Trying to balance everything. Oh my god, it's so hard. Like trying to balance work, content, fitness. Yeah, especially when you're trying to fit like do stuff like that. Like trying to do fit, it's a lot of training. And then seeing social like friends, yeah, trying to be 23 as well. Like and stuff like that. You're still so young as well. Yeah. What do your days look like then?

SPEAKER_01 16:47

You train in the morning, don't you?

SPEAKER_00 16:48

I'm a morning trainer, yeah. So I'm normally up about like between five and six, depends what time. If I'm at a class, my classes are at 6 a.m. So I start get up at 5. Mad. And then if I go at the gym, I can normally get up about half five, get to the gym for six. Because it's like further to get to a class.

SPEAKER_03 17:03

Um, will you go home or you like straight to work?

SPEAKER_00 17:05

If I go to the gym and train on my own, I'll shower at the gym, straight to work, because the gym's only over the road from the salon. That's brilliant. But then if I go to a class, I'll come home, shower, go to work, and then I'll start work every day at nine. And then most days I finish between like five and seven to eight. I work till eight, I do nine till eight two times a week. Yeah. And then I do like nine till five or six, other three days. Yeah. And then I work every Saturday.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

After after work, yeah, everyone works after five.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

So then I work every Saturday as well. So not Saturday's only nine till three, so it's like a half day, really. Yeah. That's still a long day. It's still a long day. Yeah, it's still a long day, but I'm like, oh, it's like a half day. I don't mind. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Usually I work till seven, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

That's gone.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

I can hear it go.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

So do you meal prep your meals?

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Yeah, meal prep, meal prep breakfast mainly. And then I'll meal prep my dinner. Then when I get in, I'm like, I just kind of eat whatever. But I'll meal prep like chicken. Yeah, beans on toast. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, I love beans on toast so much.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

She has beans on toast if she needs a snack.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Literally, but yeah, so like food, it's easy, really. Like once you get in the swing of it, yeah. If you're not in the swing of it, it's so hard. Yeah. Then when you know what you're like, I'm one of them, I eat the same thing. We're that we're like that, yeah. I think a lot of people in fitness are, aren't they? Like, yeah, I don't think we can eat different things.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

We just know it works for us. Yeah, it doesn't blow us, doesn't make us feel like groggy.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

You know, if you want something different, we'll just go out for food at like something really nice rather than attempting. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

I think that works though. Yeah, like I think if you just go out for a meal instead of getting takeaways and stuff all the time, if you've actually fancy something, yeah, it satisfies it, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Yeah, if I tried to cook a new meal as well and it was rubbish, I'd just be so upset. And I think I just had what I normally have.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Yeah, what a waste, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

So, how did you actually get into high rocks? Like, what made you start your high rocks journey?

SPEAKER_00 18:58

High rocks, how I got into how I got into high rocks. So it was it was it last year? What did we say now? 2026, yeah. So 2025, the start of the year, I did 75 hard.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

So I didn't actually go into that probably wanting to do high rocks. I mean, it was like floating about at the time, and it was starting to get big, yeah, like it was starting to get popular, but nowhere in my area did like high rocks classes.

SPEAKER_04 19:24

Yours is going though.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Um nowhere in my area did like high rocks classes.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

Oh, I think it's had its moment, it's had its moment, it's done what it's needed to do. We've shown it all.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Yeah. Um nowhere in my area did like high rocks classes, no I don't think I'd ever seen a ski egg machine in a gym. Yeah, I was never like cross-fitty or anything like that. I kind of just like went to the Did you train before? Yeah, dipped in and out. I'd done the Great North run, so I'd trained for that before, but then I stopped running straight after it, so it's the night of September. Yeah, and I was really annoyed that I'd like worked that hard to like run, and then I'd stopped. So it got to like January.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

If you don't have a goal, it's like it's so easy to stop. Yeah, but like with Hyrux, it's because we're always booking them. You have to keep going, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

That's what I mean. So I don't know, I I kind of got to January and I thought, right, I was in this little rut, and like thing I just thought, oh, I need to change, I need to do something. So I'd sat out to like 75 Hard, and then a facility opened for High Rocks near us, so I started going there and I met loads of people. Um, and then I just thought, well, I may as well do something about it. So I booked a race for me, which was Cardiff. Yeah. So like kind of like now marks like my one month.

SPEAKER_03 20:34

Anniversary started training to Cardiff. How many months, weeks?

SPEAKER_00 20:38

So I started in well months. Yeah, like four months. Like I started probably like end of January training high rocks. Like it was a few weeks into my 75 hard when it opened. Yeah, working.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

Um and that was Cardiff, wasn't it? That was Cardiff, yeah, which I did with my sister.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Yeah, so um, so that was good. But then so yeah, it kind of like started from 75 hard because obviously you've got to train every day, twice a day, change your habits.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

It really like broke my bad habits and you used to wake up early before 75 hard because you're such an early person.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

So even in lockdown, oh my god, this makes me sound so weird. Even in lockdown, so obviously like everyone was off work, yeah, I still got up every day as if I was going to work. Really? Really? Yeah, so I still had like so I I have Wednesdays and Sundays as my day off. Yeah. So I used to have like if I wanted to sleep in, I'd still sleep in Wednesdays and Sundays. Love it. But like all the other days at work, I got up at my normal alarm, and so did me and my mum are still the same. Like, and so did my mum. So I used to get up in the morning and train, yeah, and then I'd have the rest of the day, which like seems so mad because I was sat about doing lockdown all the day. Yeah, well actually in lockdown I was making press on nails. Were you? Yeah, because they're doing nails, yeah. So I was selling them. So I was like making press on nails and selling them. Yeah, but that kept you. Because I j I go oh my god. Yeah, I go I go crazy when I need to be busy all the time.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

You're very like business minded, aren't you? Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

I think that's I just got that off my parents, you know, like because my parents were. So then like I've always 'cause your mum's Yeah, my mum wants to sell on, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

And then you said it the Earlier as well. Um, they used to have your own bar. Yeah, I mean it must have said I was blown away by that.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

And I was like, I can't believe like I don't talk about it much now, but like, yeah, yeah, I guess it was quite a long time ago now, though. Yeah, so I'm like, well, I'm 24 tomorrow, so what is it? That's like four seven years. Since three, four, five, six, yeah, let's say seven years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

It was called McQueens. McQueens.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

McQueens, yeah, Maisie and Queenie. Yeah, you'll see. I think that's so cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

She showed us a video and it was like popping.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Yeah, we had a big argument about the name of it as well because Maisie said Maisie said that there was more letters of mine in her. So she was like, That's not fair. Like, everyone's gonna think it's her bar, not subvers.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

Oh, I love that. But yeah, you're definitely like very like business-minded. Yeah, you're always kind of going on to the next thing, like, what can I do next?

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Yeah, I think that's why I like training as well, because it's a little bit of break and it's like my time instead of like because I'm constantly like on the go thinking all the time. Yeah, when you train, yeah, yeah, it's really nice like getting music on and doing it.

SPEAKER_03 23:03

Yeah, dark hole, just you have to switch off. You don't think about anything else apart from like you're breathing. Yeah, yeah, like trying to stay alive.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Like literally, when you're running around thinking like I can breathe, I'm not gonna die, I'll be okay. But yeah, I think that's why I quite like the Hyrux train as well, because it's like intense. Yeah. When I was doing like normal training before, I had like no structure and no routine, so I wasn't seeing the progress. Yes, repetitive though. So then I was kind of was just like getting bored of it. Whereas when I started training high rucks, that's when like my body changed and like. Yeah, you get addicted, don't you?

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Yeah, so that's you get addicted to like competing, you get addicted to your how your body looks, yeah. The training.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Yeah, you probably just feel better as well. Yeah, you do, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

You get like addicted to seeing your times come down, so like your splits when you're running like your 1Ks, like going from like a 430 to a 425. Like that's addictive. Seeing yourself get fast is addictive, like it's all very addictive. You can see why it's like popping up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

Well, you did your first race, didn't you? And you got an hour and 54. This race, you got 58, 38, and now you're like, we could definitely get 57.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Yeah, that's what I mean. No, we've got yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think because coming into this race as well, I wasn't I'd been pooly. Yeah. Pooly. Pooley. Yeah, I know. I don't even think of it. Like a few weeks ago, I was really I was so unwell. Yeah, and then so I think I didn't really have much confidence coming into the rest. So then it's nice coming out the other side of it. Yeah, I can still well things. Yeah, that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

Like, you've you're still there. Yeah, that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

So it's a really good, it was probably the confidence boost that I needed. Yeah. Because I was texting Adam, just being like, No, I need a break, like I'm sick of it. And then now I've finished, he takes me his one. He was like, Do you remember when you said you wanted a break? And I was like, Yeah, I think I've changed my mind again.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

It is sometimes you just need to like race and it just breathed, like it just sp sparks that reignites that spark, doesn't it? Yeah. Like why you love it and stuff like that. Yeah, you leave it for so long, if you leave it for like three, four months before you compete again, you just kind of get a bit lost and like it gets a bit samey, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Yeah, I think it works both ways, whether you have a good race or a bad race as well. Because you come out the back end of a good race and you think, right, well, I just want to be better. Yeah. Because that felt you forget how much it hurts at the time, because then you come out of it, you finish. An hour later you're like, hmm, I probably could have run a little bit quicker, even though you definitely couldn't have. But then, like, equally when you have a bad race, you come out and you think, Well, I just want to do better because I know I can improve on this and that. Exactly. So it works both ways, really, which is really good.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

Yeah, I absolutely love like, and we just love high-rock story. Yeah, we both love it.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

I'm just like trying to get it.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

You love listening, you love listening with.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

I love um supporting.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Yeah, you're a really good tree leader, and with your camera as well.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

I do like coming. Yeah, I like watching, yeah. That's good. I do get quite into it, and I'm just if you just didn't like it. Would that be an issue?

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Probably. No, it's nice to be.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

You have to bop off on your own.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

It's just like a free holiday for you though.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

It is, yeah. Not really a holiday though, because you don't really see anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

I think you don't realise how hard work spectating actually is. It is. It's so hard work. So I like spectated when I went over a weekend and like people were racing. My race was it was when I cancelled my solos to race with you. I was going to race the day before solos and the day after with you, and then I cancelled my solos, so but I still went for the full weekend. So just spectated the day before. Oh my god, I was so tired. And like running between specs, like because it was a few of my friends on the course at the same time. So like one person would be on burpees and the next person would be on ski, and then like you were trying to get everyone running at the same time, then remembering whether Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

And if you're trying to film it as well, yeah. And there's people in front of you, and and then if you're like doing burpees, you go past me, and then I'm like, Well, I've got to run all the way around the other side now to get you in the same position.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

Yeah, or you go on the roar because you like people are coming in and you think, right, I'm in the right place in front of the roar. And so on to it, and they're going, actually, this side.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

We did that with Madam. But she was gonna go right down the other end and she was the last one on the other side. Yeah, yeah. We had to go all the way around like back to the start. I know.

SPEAKER_03 26:49

It's mad, isn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

And the start tunnel was really far from the ski. Yeah. Wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 26:55

So that was the mission to get to. Yeah. So you had to probably run run from the start tunnel. We missed you at the start tunnel.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

The start tunnel was like the opposite end, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 27:03

Yeah, we saw Maddy, but we To be fair, we weren't at the front, were we, at the start tunnel? We were like, and then I felt like I was tripping over everyone because it was so Oh my god, when we first came out, there was that many people on the cars because it was all mixed doubles out first. Mixed doubles, there's a lot. Oh, any doubles, there would be a lot of people, wouldn't there?

SPEAKER_03 27:18

It was the first time they did mixed doubles in Helsinki as well. So it was like popular. Yeah, I bet. Really, really popular.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

What's the biggest lesson that fitness has taught you so far, do you think?

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Oh I would say just stay dedicated, like keeping staying focused and when it gets hard, not giving up. Yeah, like discipline. Discipline. Yeah, discipline, to say it like shortly, definitely. Yeah. And the amount of people that you can meet through fitness is really deceiving. It's so good, isn't it? Yeah, so I think it's taught me like that you can meet new people in different ways. Discipline and meeting new people. That's not bad. Yeah, yeah, and we wouldn't have met, yeah. We wouldn't have met.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Like this weekend, like we've all got on like so well. Yeah. We've just laughed and laughed. Like even like on the in the car journey on the way home, like just laughed.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Yeah, yeah. And it's I think it's really took it into my personal life as well. Like, if I was to meet someone like romantically, I think it'd be a massive thing as well. Yeah. Because I had to like you don't realise how much of an impact it has on you. Like, you need to be around like-minded people. Yeah. Because if you if if yeah, if you don't have stuff in common, yeah, it's a massive part of my life.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

So you do it every single day. Every single day. And it's sometimes if someone was to ask you not to do it, it's like, actually, I want to do it. Yeah, I want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

But someone's taking that away, making you feel bad for going taking that away from you. Like you want, I want to wake up with someone and I want them to be like, right, let's go and do that, and then let's go for a coffee after. Yeah, that's what I would want.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Favourite day. Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_03 28:46

Run and coffee.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

I'm real.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

We never coffee. What's your meal before you race?

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Oh, so if we everyone seemed took a liking to this actually this weekend. If I'm racing the a.m., so this is probably before 10, maybe 10:30am, before maybe even 11, I'd say. I do thanks to Adam Chang, by the way. Two rice cakes, honey, and a banana, and a litre of water and wake up. Yeah. Massive, massive difference. Probably the litre of water is huge.

SPEAKER_03 29:14

Like as soon as you wake up having that.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

As soon as I wake up, having that litre of water, oh my god, it's such a big tip because then I think it's a lot, it's probably mental game anyway. Like when I'm running around, I'm thinking I don't technically need a drink because I know I'm hydrated because I've drank that litre of water, and gives you time to go to the toilet before you race because you've drank it straight away in the morning. But yeah, two rice cakes, honey, banana, digest quick. Yeah. It doesn't make you feel heavy. And you thought that as well, did you?

SPEAKER_03 29:38

Yeah, it doesn't make you feel heavy. Yeah, I used to have rice and honey, but like that early in the morning.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Right, well, right, rice, sticky rice with honey on it. I used to see people do that who ran marathons and I used to think.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

And I was just like, it's just got to the point where I was like, I'm waking up and I'm like, that's similar to a rice cake and honey though.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

No.

SPEAKER_03 29:53

Rice cake tastes way better.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

But like similar sort of thing. Rice and honey. Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 29:58

Yeah, I suppose it's very, very similar.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

And like cocoa pops and rice crispies and stuff like that. Squares bars with honey on it. It's all very similar, just different ways.

SPEAKER_03 30:07

Just makes you feel light, makes you feel good. Yeah. Give you enough fuel. But then we obviously like have our carb gels, our carb drinks before. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Um you really stack them up. Yeah, a carb drink and a monster.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

Yeah, that's yours, isn't it? Yeah. Monster. Monster.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Have you ever picked up a red bull by accident on the way around?

SPEAKER_03 30:24

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Once. I've done it once.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Oh my god, that was on my first ever cat like my first ever race.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

Oh my god. You go, It's not the worst.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

I can't believe I don't even know. Does anyone even drink that? Like who's wow?

SPEAKER_03 30:39

I think it's like I think it is good for like maybe the last section of the race, like coming into the lunges, and you need that sugar spike. I think it might benefit you.

SPEAKER_00 30:49

You could not just have a gel though.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

Exactly, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

You could just have a gel, but I think I just I I just feel like I'm gonna be sick the entire way around, and then that makes me feel like I'm gonna be sick even more.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

But the science behind this is just difficult to down that it's hard, it's just hard.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

It really slows you down because you can't, it's hard to run and knock it out.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

Honestly, I have the amount of times like I just all over my mouth. And I'm like hoping for the best. Just flow it all over yourself.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

Carry on.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

It's just all over my face instead of in my mouth.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

Yeah. But we're gonna try, I think in the next time we do mixed upwards, we're gonna try bicarbonate soda. So that's bicarbonate soda and 60 mil water, and apparently it's meant to like help remove the lactate out of your no flavour? No, well, you I will flavour it, but apparently it's like have you ever like dipped your finger in bicarbonate soda? Yeah, no bicarbonate horrific. It's horrific. Yeah, it's very good.

SPEAKER_00 31:39

People brush their teeth with that, don't they? Apparently, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Yeah, it whitens the teeth.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

And people put it in the white wash in.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

Really? Yeah, I've heard that.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

White socks and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

Apparently it takes like the s does it takes the sweat out?

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Yeah, it takes, but it makes them like white. Yeah. White.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

We're gonna try that, but apparently it messes your stomach up.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

So Yeah. Oh, I meant in the washing. Tummy.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

Um next one.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

Next one, last one is what is next for you?

SPEAKER_00 32:06

Next, I I would probably want another solo PB in Birmingham. Yeah. Summer Corin's 114, so I definitely want to beat that. So that's in October. That's in October if I can get a ticket, which I will be. Yeah, I'm having a little break. That was end of season, wasn't it? That race.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

It pretty much is there. It was yeah. It's like five weeks until the end of season.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

And then probably I want to do marathon next year. Do you? I do. I didn't get in the ballot last year for London, I've gone in the ballot again this year, probably won't get it. And then I think it's positive always. And then I think if I don't get it, I'm probably gonna do Manchester. I always said I wouldn't do it if it wasn't London, if I didn't get in. Yeah. I wouldn't do a marathon. Manchester's really not very hyped though. No, I know that's what I mean. But then I seen Manchester this year and I just thought, I'm just gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

If I don't get into London, I'm gonna do Manchester. I think the vibe the vibe at any marathon will be good, but I think Manchester will be like the second best.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

In the ballot, can't you put Manchester as your second option?

SPEAKER_03 33:01

No.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

I think you can pay to do Manchester, and then if you get in London ballot, you can cancel your Manchester place and get it.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

Yeah, there was some sort of option about Manchester.

SPEAKER_03 33:09

But they give you the option of Brighton. Oh, is it Brighton? I think it must be owned by the same.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

That would be quite a good one, though.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

It's a really good one to do. But yeah, that and then we'll probably hit a mixed doubles up this season. Yeah. Probably find out which one we do. I mean, there's so many races now.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

Maybe abroad.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Maybe abroad again. Lisbon. Lisbon. If we went to Lisbon, we would have qualified.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

Yeah, we would have qualified. Really? Was that recent?

SPEAKER_03 33:33

Three minutes as well.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

It was a few weeks ago, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 33:35

I thought people would have just gone there, they would have been fast.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

That's mad that like e can you just qualify at each?

SPEAKER_03 33:42

You can qualify at any single one as long as you come first.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

But at any event.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Any event, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

Any event. I think that's probably why like Helsinki the pressure was on because it's coming to an end of the season, so people are rushing to get the wedge.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

It's quite far. The flights as well, like the flight that we got was £100. The people that we were competing against, they paid £450 for their flight. So once our yeah, once our flight um was fully booked, everyone had to pay £450 or more, which is a lot of money. So I thought, oh no one's gonna go there. Oh, I was wrong.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Yeah, we were yeah, we were but they were everyone was UK, weren't they? That like had the quick times. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone had the same idea.

SPEAKER_03 34:20

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

But it was a good holiday and you came third. Yeah. Yeah, we can't complain. My first work. Yeah. Buzz and vlog.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

That is end of episode four. Thank you all so much for listening. Thank you, Queenie, for coming out. Thanks for having me. We actually got in at 4 a.m. last night and we got here at nine. Yeah, so we've had a long we've had low sleep, but we did this.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

We got here. Yeah, and we're gonna go get some breakfast. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

Porridge and a coffee. Even though we died on the other side of the road. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

But we made it. We're here to tell the story.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

Thanks, guys. Thank you for listening to today's episode. If you did enjoy it, please like, follow, subscribe, wherever you're watching. But we will be seeing you again very soon.