TWME #2 - Jessie Taylor

Jessie Taylor is a family man and comedian whos career spans almost 3 decades. He has been on NBC's "Last Comic Standing" & BET's "Comic View". He has been on tour with the likes of Corey Holcomb, & Deray Davis. He was also the owner of "The Laugh Lounge Comedy Club" which was a launch pad for the careers of famous comedians such Vincent B. Bryant (via Kevin Hart's "Hart of the City" TV Show), Chicago's Own Dyon "Mojo" Brooks, and The Breakfast Club host Jess Hilarious. 

We discuss his start in comedy, how he achieved his dream of opening his own comedy club and the hardships of running the business day to day while also being talent, the STL comedy scene and its current condition, and who are the Kings of STL comedy. Feel free to follow him on his socials at

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey man, the Wayne Martin experience, man. The man to my right, to my left, he don't need no introduction, man.

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Yeah, it's Jesse Taylor, man. The best that do it. The best that ever did it, the best that might do it. The best that might do it in the future, the best that's never done it. I don't even know what the fuck I'm saying, but I'm here. And we finna crack these doe fiends. Real nigga shit.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

The Wayne Mart experience, man. Tune in, man. Like, share, and subscribe, man. What it is, world, as you can see, we here again. I am the one, the only Almighty PK, Wayne Phillips, man. And this here is the Wayne Mart Experience. Hey, man, the man I got to the right of me is a big brother, a mentor, STL Underground Comedy King, and legend, black activist, all around good guy. He's also kind of crazy, which is why I got him down here on the couch, man. The one the only Jesse Taylor, man. What's going on with you?

SPEAKER_01 1:00

Wayne Mart started at the Laug Lounge. He started at the Laugh Lounge. I'm gonna just throw it out there. Those that no no.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Yeah, yeah, it definitely did start.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Customers, uh, he said it's uh he had a high uh was a Yelp. Yeah, got five stars on Yelp. He got five stars on Yelp.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Yeah, he got five stars on Yelp.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

All four employees know what I'm talking about. I'm gonna leave it at that. I don't know how I don't know how wild. I don't know how much we can cut loose on here. So we can cut, right? Yeah, this nigga here, listen. He wow, don't get it fucked up. I don't I ain't gonna go too loud. Certain things can't be said on here. Wayne wild. Whatever y'all think he is, is it's it's far worse. Whoa. It's far worse. I'm gonna say it's worse. Let me tell you why it's worse. Can I can we talk about anything? Okay. So, Wayne, look, so we just said this. I'm gonna let you lead it, but I just gotta throw this out there. He's one of the only men that said, and I'm throwing it out here because we live on the internet, on the uh on YouTube, whatever, where we where we're at, we broadcast. He told me he ain't gotta be with a girl. He likes to fuck their head up. He gives our samples. I had never heard a man say that in my life. Yeah, sample. Fucked us up. I have people calling me today about that. I'm like, what do you mean? He said, if I like a lady we kiss, I give her a little sample. A little head, 30 seconds, then I stop, I leave, let her make a choice. I said, damn.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

First things first. All right, all right, all right. Let's keep it up, dude. First things first. No, he's not lying about that. I did say that. However, for context. For context. That was in my younger days. That's actually at the time I told him that that wasn't even a thing anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, man. So fuck it, we're gonna just talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

I've never heard of a sample.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Alright, boom, man. So fuck.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

You didn't see this coming.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

I kind of did, but it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

I just want to know what it was. I don't know about sample.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

For those out there in the world, mind you, this was me between the ages of 18 and 24. All right, this was not a thing posted. Anywho, cool. So uh, and this kind of ties into the to the Waymore shit, which is why that's what they would say. If you ever go to fucking Sam's or any place, motherfuckers offer you a sample of whatever product that they have that they trying to sell, right? So, me, you know what I'm saying? I think of myself like a business, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, hey, if they shop with me and they like the product, they come shop with me again.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

Right.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

How do I get the customers? Give them a sample. Now, of course, this was talking about something sexual in nature. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I shoot my shot at a joint. First things first, California was a wild place. That's yeah, this is California. This is as far as I'm gonna leave that. Cali was a wild place, the military is even wilder. Two, so if you see, I see a joint I like, right? Cool, shoot my shot, whatever, whatever, get a number. Or I don't even get a number, whatever, whatever. And you know, she on it, or I'm on it, and she kind of, but I need something to push over the edge stuff, you know, to come fuck with me. So, hence the sample.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

So it's been right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

So, like, yeah, the craziest shit, which what he referenced it, man. I ain't ashamed of it, even though I wasn't expecting to start out this hot.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

Yeah, this hot.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

It's basically a girl. Go ahead. A girl. All right, so one time we was out there.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

You gotta give them names. I don't know. I don't know. Go ahead though. I just threw that out there. You know you are.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

So one time, this was what 2011, 2012, somewhere in that ranch. This girl, man, um, we was outside this club called Decos in the Gasland Dish in San Diego, right? We just so had, I was on in the club, you know what I'm saying? We flirted all this other shit. She had her friends with her, I had my people with her, whatever, whatever. But I'm walking with her. We walking back to the parking garage, and we just so happened to park right by each other. Like our cars was like three or four cars apart, right? So, Obey, we out here talking, I'm trying to get her to roll back with me. And she was like, I like I want to, but I got my friends with me, da da da da, this, that, and the third. I'm like, shit, I got my people with me. They keep them company, they keep them good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, and she was like, she was right here, she got the palm of my shit right on the side of the car. And my dumb ass is like, I she clearly on it, but you need to seal that deal. I need to seal it. So she had this motherfucking red skirt on, right? She had this red skirt on. We standing her face to face on palm of cheeks and all that shit. And then I noticed she ain't got no drawers on, like nothing. Right. Like, not even a phone. So she reached down, grabbed my shit, and then she's like, nah, I can't really, nah, nah, because it's like, uh, shine. So I done scooped her up on the hood of the car.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Hence the screen.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

You know what I'm saying? She got the first sample, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

So this is what started your sample spree. This what started, this is what started him going on a mad sample.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

It wasn't a mad sample.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

Okay, you had a sample run. But did the sample work?

SPEAKER_00 6:14

The sample definitely worked. You know what I mean? She dropped the friends off and double back. Actually, she didn't drop her friends off. She gave her keys to her friends. I'm riding with him. And she rolled with me.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

But I started that shit work. Now, was that a wild chance? Absolutely. However, it fucking worked.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

And it worked every other time I did it. So that was that. Fast forward 10 plus years later, and we are at the Laugh Lounge, man. Rest piece to the Laugh. I love that place. We're gonna get on that in a second. We heard talking, and I tell the story, not this specific story, but about giving a girl a sample. Yeah. And these niggas act like they everybody went nuts. They've never heard this kind of shit a day.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

Only time I heard was samples at the mall. That's how I found out about Panda Express. They gave me some free shit.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

You know, when I say I was like, and she got some free shit.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Yeah, yeah. She got some free shit. That's how I learned what certainly these food spots is gonna give out sample. It made sense. I just never heard a man say it. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Y'all I'd be ashamed if I'm in the club and I'm hanging out and be like, hey, baby, don't speak to me. You you ate my ass. I'd be like, hey.

SPEAKER_00 7:18

First things first. We here at the mart do not provide that service. We're not eating no cheeks. No cheeks. Yeah. I'm cool on that, man. Yeah. I stay where you can see me.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Anywho, yeah. Don't keep it pushing. Everybody not edible. I just I was just talking about this on stage at a show last night. I was telling people we got to bring back tongue kissing. Facts. People, people it never left with me, but yeah, facts. People smash too quick. And tongue kissing to me makes it uh the foreplay better. A lot of people don't like tongue kissing. Motherfuckers fuck you quick. Get you head, won't come kiss. I don't kiss.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Hey, you know what's crazy? I say this shit all the time. Like, motherfuckers be like, I done like rap with girls. Not joints, I smash, but I done rap with girls in like a general conversation, and they be talking all shit, and they be like, nah, that's that's too intimate. That's good. So you mean to tell me eating box is cool. Yeah. Eating ass is like great. It's mandatory. And then we live in an age now where gals eat cheeks and I didn't. But kissing is where you just like, oh no, I don't even know you like that.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

You don't know my pastor? You a stupid nigga. My partner said he chicks chicks will eat your cheeks. My partner said, motherfucker grabbed this leg and pulled it to the back like a stripper. He said, He's a street cat. He got at least two murders. He said he looked up, he said he was holding it because it was that good to him. Yeah. Perk him out.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

That nigga's insane.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Hey, listen, I had him on the.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

That'll lead to a fight fucking with me, yo.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

No, it happened to me one time. I'm gonna throw it out there. Kathy, what's up? So it happened to me one time. I was taking my shoe off. I was naked. She's like, I don't want to take your socks and shoes off. I I used to watch porn. Shout out to those that know the cat that uh be smashing chicks and boots. Uh, you know what I'm talking about. What's his name? Uh Mr. Marcus or Wesley Pipes. One of them two. Was it Wesley Pipes had the boots?

SPEAKER_00 9:03

I think it was.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Yeah, the T at the Tim's on. So I just tried to rock my Tim's like him. And then she's like, no, I need all that off. When I went to take my shoe off, she pulled me in and did it. I was like, damn. Felt like somebody threw cold water on me. I was like, I didn't know I was turned out, man. I was next time I know I was up on the dresser. So now I can't even I can't go shopping for furniture, man, because I I got a habit of getting on dresses and shit. They been, I'd be at Bob's at Value City. They'd be like, sir, could you get out the dresser? Where is she at? You know, that's just me. I'm turned out. That's what I'm saying. That's why I was so happy when I got in here. Y'all got it set up so nice. I was like, please don't be no dresser in here. Man, I'd have got to leave.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

Definitely not that kind of party down.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all good.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

We here, hey, well, not say we here, because I don't work here, but I use the studio, man. But Powerhouse Studios. This is no studio, man. Yeah, man, it's black on. You know what I'm saying? Black on. I can't say nothing without Powerhouse Studios without shouting out my producer behind the camera, man. The one and the only O Weston. He's a modest guy, man. He stays.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

Stay hit. I asked her to do my OnlyFan content. He's like, nah, I don't want to record it. I might use my phone to get it. But just a nice setup. It's giving me uh eight millimeter vibes. That movie with those that know no. She gotta go watch it. Machine.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

But in other news, man, we're talking about the Laughlunge, right? At the time, if I'm not mistaken, there was like what six black-owned comedy clubs over the country?

SPEAKER_01 10:25

Or four at the time.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

It was four at the time.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

J Spot, me, uh Nate hadn't even opened his yet. Nate Jackson's wasn't open yet. It was Chuckles in Memphis. That's gone. Yeah. Me Chuckles. J Spot and uh Was Jokes and Notes a Black Owned Spot? Jokes and Notes was gone. Yeah, it was good. That was gone. And uh uh the one in uh Atlanta, it was another one. It was uh I think it was a House of Comedy. It might be the House of Comedy. That was Black On. It was four.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Now I think the House of Comedy is still there. Now you got Nate Jackson has a comedy club and uh Truckles is gone. There might be oh there's one uh the punchline, I think, in Detroit. So there's only three now.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

So as somebody who, you know, owned a comedy club and you know what I'm saying, is the king of you know comedy here in the city, man. How did how did it feel to like be an owner of what was it actually like to be an owner of a comedy club? Not the day-to-day business, but like obviously you are known in you know comedy circles across the country, but you know, you're now the booker now. So it's like, hey, you know what I'm saying? I got to trying to get stage time here. Like, what was that like?

SPEAKER_01 11:40

To me, it was easy because I I booked all my shows from the beginning. I used uh when I was with Galloway at first, and then Terrence would help me. Shout out to Terrence, Terrence would help me if I needed help getting comics, but I was always to myself. When I I used to work at the Funny Bone, so I I built a relationship with comedy, but there was more white comics. I didn't have a Rolodex of black comics to get. So it took me a little while, and I've used rest in peace of my brother Marcus Combs. Yeah, rest in the book. Marcus Combs would always get me comics. Uh Kool-Aid, too, man. Kool-Aid, Kool-Aid, yeah. He introduced me to Marcus Combs, opened me up to a lot of comments I couldn't get. That he because he traveled, he beat that street so hard. He traveled all around the country. Him, and then uh it was like to me, it was I was already doing it. So getting a comedy club, instead of giving them one day, I was able to give them a weekend.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

So it wasn't a hard transition for me. The hardest thing for me was the business and trying not to price gauge the customer. Because we gave a lot of food for that little price. $11, you got wings and fries. And our food was fired. And it was fire, fire. So I look at prices now when I go out and I see what people charge at certain comedy clubs or just venues, period. You paying 20 bucks for three wings, and they are they not even whole wings. So it's like I've seen the drummies and we giving out whole wings. Y'all didn't even understand. We was we was giving out too much food, I realize now. So and we fill your basket up and we season the fries. A lot of people don't season the fries, so it was just uh something I always had in my head as a kid, and to push it out, it let me know when I think of it long enough I I can put it in put it in play. Cause it was so you'll think it'll it'll be a just a thought in your head, but it keeps recurring and recurring, recurring, and to see it come to fruition was amazing for me. And uh it was it was just it was one of those things. COVID, I knew it would hurt me, but it it kind of it really pushed me out. But I I got some ideas now. Now that I really understand it, like the the comedy part I understood, it was just a business. Okay. Learning the business and getting the right, you know, the right staff is very important. Facts. I don't know how Chick-fil-A fucking do it. I don't know if they're brainwashing them people, but Chick-fil-A got to be the best staff.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

They paying the shit out of them because hey, they energy is the same across the board no matter where you go to a Chick-fil-A.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

Motherfucker followed me to the car trying to give me some more lemonade. I'm like, you act like you're finna get some head out. You done followed me to the car. It's like they got a spoon that they what's that movie? Get out where they woo. Them people are there, the nicest people. I I haven't met that many nice people in the world. They all at Chick-fil-A. Have you known how nice they've been? They'd be like, can I get you anything else? What's your name? Where am I at? And then they come find you, they wipe your table off, they take your cup, take the top off. Yeah, who's your strong?

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Consummate professionals.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Oh my God. I don't need I don't think it's that many good people in the world. But Chick-fil-A got them all.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

Yeah, I wouldn't argue with you on that.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

If you did, if you close Chick-fil-A, the world would be a worse place. Well, I want to feel good about myself, I go to Chick-fil-A. You know what I'm saying? I could be in the streets. I'm like, fuck you, you a bitch ass nigga. I go to Chick-fil-A. How's it going, sir? And I just, I need a hug, man. I just I'm in the right spot. And they'll ask for a hug at Chick-fil-A. I bet they give it to you.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

I wouldn't do that, but I wouldn't doubt that they asked you. Yeah, they do it, man.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

They'll do it. And it's always that old white guy in there. Like he's on his last leg of life. He the coolest. How was your day? You'd be like, nah, fam, let's go go to that voice in your head, man. I know you're here. Just get out of here, man. Go to that voice. You too old to be working, bro. Follow the voice and go home, bro.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

But back to the laugh line. So you say the actual booking of comics was like, but the business side was Western College. As a fact, would you would you open another uh comedy club?

SPEAKER_01 15:23

Yeah, I would. But I would uh I don't need as many voices. Because I had partners. Sometimes you can have a different it could be your dream and you can involve other people in your dream. But then you can bump head.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

That's kind of I'm gonna be real, that's kind of what it felt like. Like what like working there.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

Yeah, because I had my own dream and I pulled people into my dream. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And me and Maurice G, no, you know, no issues with him, because he a comic too. But he understood the business world better than me. Maurie G was dope with the business. So we had another partner too, as well. He was a a partner of mine. But he wasn't good with the staffing and the people. He was quick. You and him bumped heads a lot anyway. So I know.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

It was talking about he's an outset. You're talking about this dude named Ant, man, who I thought was a first ballot Hall of Fame bitch ass nigga. Yeah, he said, like, straight up, man. Like, he was a cool dude in short spurts, but he wasn't somebody you wanted to be around long term. And I've come across guys like him. Like, I always got the impression, like, you was a nigga that was kind of lame most of your life. And then you got a good job and you grow spurts and started making money. And then, you know what I'm saying? You started, you started tripping with everybody because you make you got paper. Yeah. And it's just like he you, yeah, bruh, like we butted heads a lot. Like, like having to work with him, complete first ballot Hall of Fame bitch ass nigga. Outside of that, he was actually a decent guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like I couldn't let that shit go because he fucked up money for me, like a gang of nights.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Like it was nights, it was like nights. Y'all would be short on a bartender, right? Be like, hey, can you go bartend? Joints come in, I'm making some solid little tips. I'm and I'm only helping, I'm doing this shit because you my partner, not rapper. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to teamwork make a dream work. You know what I'm saying? And that nigga, see a nigga getting tips and all this other shit and how busy the boy getting, and the nigga be like, hey man, I need you to go do this. And I he flirting with all the girls at the fucking bar. And he did that. This the thing. I actually didn't, I did shoot my shot at a lot of joints up there, but I actually didn't do it while I was working. Because I'm like, you know what I'm saying? The money comes first. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm helping my partner out. So, hey, let's get the pipe in. But I be talking to the joints, like, yeah, I'm they talking and flirting and shit. Whatever, whatever, but I'm still handling business. Handling business, man. And he removed it. That nigga see that shit, be like, yeah, yeah, man, they need help in the kitchen, man. They backed up on orders, man. And next thing you know, this nigga up here. Taking your strength.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

He up here talking to her.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

I know that. Yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Yeah, that shit.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

That's why I said it's the it's the yin and the yang. So I I just was real good with customers and people. I've always I've always had to be. Because at the spotlight, when I started there with Galloway, I learned that the the biggest asset to any business is the people. Obviously. So once you get the people to understand what product you're doing, you gotta at least respect the people and be nice to them and keep letting them know that the business is welcome. So I go out there and speak to everybody. And then I was doormanning too. I was seating people, doormanning, managing. I was getting all the food, cooking, running food, whatever we needed. But as they come in, I'm talking to them, hey, what's up? Welcome back. I let them know I remember them. You did the same thing. Well, you were seating, hey, what's up, man? You want the same seat? When people see that, it becomes more of a family environment and they they feel like their money's in the right place. Or they, oh, these people, man, they respect me. You know what I'm saying? Hey man, look, I'm gonna move you up to VIP, man. They didn't come. I got y'all. So to me, I had learned to do the business last. I learned the people first in the business of comedy. Because of me being a comic, I learned to do comedy. But then I didn't know what style I wanted to do because I w I started at the funny bone. So only comics I was seeing was white comics. The only black comics I saw in the beginning was Cedric when he started out. But the one that they always booked was a guy named Ron Raimi. Rest in peace to Ron Raimi. Amazing comic. And I was just watching the business. Craig Hawksley, the Steve Pollis, the Michael Paces. I watched all these guys, the Buzz Sutherland. I just watched. And then when I got to my own business and I watched the Model with a Funny Bone, shout out to Joe Kubak and Gary Kubak and Mitch and those guys. I just watched the I saw a business because I used to get to work at four, four o'clock. I was a busboy. I would guess the uh Page, the Dorset and Lackland, and then walk. And at night I walked home most of the night from Westport to almost college in Carter. I walk take me like seven, eight hours sometimes. But I I I'll say this, the comedy game has it actually saved my life, to be honest. Because while I was at work, you know, all my family, we game, we in the gang. I'm in school and in the game. So I'm over there and I'm on the f going to see my father on the 5900. Right. So comedy, I was gone for the most part until I got home missing all of like 90% of the fights and shootings. In the weekends, I'm right there. So it's like I'm playing catch-up to get what happened, you know. So I I'm thankful for the opportunity comedy give comedy gave me. That's why it was so big on me to open a comedy club, because it was like it transitioned me out of the street element to see that there could be something else. And the comedy is just something I always had a passion for. From sneaking to here, Richard Pryor uh on the real to real, watching my parents sneak and watching them we act like we're in the basement, come up, just watching them watch you know, uh Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy. I I was sneaking, get it. But that's the what the style I fell in love with, that raw realness. And I thank God that I saw that early, and I was able to give just a piece of what I thought a dream could be in a comedy club. And I think right now the Laughlin's really needed. Because black comics, people don't know this, but black comedy, urban comedy is keeping all these clubs, comedy clubs open.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Man, who you telling? All of them. I just looked at Helium's lineup, yeah, and literally is uh they got what Corey Hulk and closing out the year.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

They have to, you know why? Because this is a baseball technique.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

But they got him, they got the what's the dude who was I I can't think of his name. He was the dude, the OCDA dude who was like literally taking people complaints and going up to their jobs, acting like he was. Yeah, he yeah, he heard his week.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Yeah, but uh yeah, uh Agent Ratleff. Oh, his name?

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Yeah, Agent Ratley was his name, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

But it's funny you say that because these are the internet guys now, because uh it's funny how it's funny I'm here today, because I just got a call yesterday, my inner guy by a guy who had a big comic, and he was like, You are the hitting jewel in comedy. He said, I didn't travel all around. We've been I done had your name circled for like two years. He just doubled back on me yesterday. I called my manager, like, hey bro, on the phone, he's talking to me. He wanna put me on some things. Like, I want to start you off. I'm gonna market you. He said, because I've been traveling for two, three years. I've never seen nobody on your level, and you you you happy with it. I said, no, I'm a family dude. I take care of my cousin. She's handicapped. He's like, bro, listen, give me a weekend a couple of weekends a month. I just want to try something with you. I'm gonna cover it. Then I'm gonna I need you for a year to build you up. He said, because ain't nobody seen you, bro. He said, you you a hidden gym. He said, I think you can smoke everybody. And I started laughing. I looked at him, I was like, let me call my manager. And he told me he respected that because he was coming at me directly. I said, I ain't no snake, bro. I'm I'm built from something different, bro. I'm gonna let me get my man on the phone. I don't mind adding to my team. Yeah, but I'm not getting my team out, yeah. And he told me, he said that was the main reason he called. He said, I knew you was gonna do that. And the guy in the background was like, he said you was gonna do that. I'm not no snake, I don't move for money. Money don't move me. I've always had it. But he was coming at me directly. Yeah. And I was like, Yeah, man, I'm with all this, bro. But let me call my guy. He said, I'm talking to you. And I told him, bro, I can't do it without him. And a lot of guys don't have integrity. A lot of bitch ass niggas is injured. So I called him my guy, he the guy in the background was like, He said you was gonna do that, dog. He said you was gonna fucking do that. And he was trying to get me to not call him just to see. I guess he was testing me.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

I like bro, I ain't moving. I don't mind adding to my team, but I'm not cutting him. This is my brother, bro. I'm never gonna snake nobody I love, bro.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

So so somebody say, this is the thing though. Like, you've been doing comedy, like quiet as it's kept. Like you've been doing comedy for over three decades.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Almost, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

So it's like, like, what, like, what, like, what exactly in the build-up? Matter of fact. The build-up. Like, cause I'm saying, because you dude say, Let me build you up. Yeah. And it's just like, what? I mean, obviously motherfuckers can be in a have more notoriety than they currently currently have. But yeah, what exactly could he build up? You done been on Last Comic Standing. Matter of fact, before we roll into that, I'm gonna go. Give it a resume to the people that's not aware of who Jesse Taylor is.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

I was one of the first comics on Last Comic Standing Standing. I uh would have been, well, I made it, I was making it into the house, I dropped out of the show because my aunt passed. That was that was the big thing to me because she died while we was filming. Yeah. And when I got to uh Vegas to do my show, I couldn't even I couldn't get it done. It just was too much because the guy, the guy, me, Ralphie May, rest in peace of my brother Ralphie May. And they told me, man, your aunt just died. They called on the phone and they had they they took our phones when we got to Vegas.

unknown 24:38

J.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

Moore and all of them had to take our phones. But the production team who stayed in my house that filmed me, they was with me for a week. They got to see how I moved, get met recorded my mom and dad, all the footage and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

And they knew what I was going through with my aunt. And then uh she came to me crying because she had my phone. I said, What's wrong? She said, Your aunt just died. And I'm about to film. I couldn't film. So I've been on BET's Comic View, Def Jam. And uh I was a finalist in the uh Bacardi by Night contest. That was me, Leslie Jones, who's on Saturday Night Live, won that. That's how I met Foolish, Coco Brown, and Pat Brown. All of us was finalists out of 14,000. When I did last comic standing, I was top 20 out of 300,000. 300,000 comics. I made top 20. And I and I sometimes you always say in your head, what could have been or a guy? I don't even care because it's in his timing anyway. And everybody's like, but man, you should be this further. I'm like, yeah, if I took it a little more like most people and just dropped everything and ran to do it, I definitely got what it takes to you know be a bigger act. But like he was saying when he wanted to build me up, what he mean was is just getting me more recognized in other markets instead of the markets that I'm used to. Like I'm good in Davenport, Springfield, Memphis, Chicago. Certain markets I'm good in because they know what they know what I bring to the table. Right. But just like the uh shout out to my bro uh Mojo Brooks who's doing his thing. It's a building. I was actually about to get to that. You build it. Now he's the guy. You know, you build him up. Shout out to uh uh Bubba Dub. Bubba Dub and uh Wild Hair. Wow Hair was building him up and promoting and doing the behind the scenes stuff. You need a team, bro. So it's the marketing aspect that I I just want to do the comedy. I don't want to do the going to the town, buying radio ads, buying uh in the streets. You just want to do the art. I just want to do the performing and let the stuff behind the scenes work itself out. Because I'm not a real big social media guy. I'm learning it, the algorithm stuff. But he's like, let me build you a platform first and build you your materials, you're ready. He said, but we gotta get you more visible across all platforms, like Cincinnati, Detroit. So when I start bringing you back and we want to charge a ticket, hey, we got you, bro. This is just Taylor, this we can do. This is what he did this the first time. Here's the second time, the third time. Now I can get on shows like we done warns and uh other tours. Yeah. And just be until I build it up to where they like, okay, you done enough. Now it's your time. Now Mojo Brooks is getting his time.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

That's crazy you mentioned him because while I was speaking on the live lounge, is that a lot of people not aware of this, but you know what I'm saying? You kind of don't appreciate it at the time when it happened. But a lot of people that are big names, some of their first happened in the live line. Actually, Mojo Brooks got a video. He ain't say the club or you by name, but he said right before he had it in his promo before he just was here doing a it wasn't a I forget where he was there, but I know he was in a big ass venue. I know that much. He was saying his, he was like, St. Louis is the first city to ever book me to do comedy.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

When I first started, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and that that was you. Just hilarious. Yes, Muggs got just hilarious for your birthday show. And just hilarious at the time was not even that like funny. She was she was still, she's funny now, but she was just internet funny then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she was still new. She had her boyfriend on stage and Chris. Yeah, she had Chris on stage and back. Yeah, that's insane.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Yeah. But she she had never she was getting $1,500 a weekend. Yeah. And we was the first ones to pay her. I gave her 90% of the door. And she was like, Who are you? Because you're pretty popular. I was like, Yes, my birthday. I'm gonna sell out without you. But uh, I still I still contact her, I email her, and she's like, I need help with these jokes, this, and this. And she's sweet as she can be. But when we paid her, she broke down crying. And I said, Why are you crying? She was like, You don't understand how much money I get $1,500. I didn't know I was big as I am. We get she said the week before she came to the Laughline, which was October 10th of my birthday, that was the first show, and I gave her 90% of the door. And when she saw what she made, she's like, Please don't give me all that money. And I was like, now you do the math on that 90% of 350 tickets sold, and we did six shows.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Yeah, two Friday, Saturday, and two on Sunday, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

That's what I'm saying. Six shows. All sellouts. And I gave her 10% of that. She went to crane. And I told her to her face, if you stay consistent, do four shows a week from what I paid you, you do two Monday and Tuesday, four shows, then you go to another market and do four shows. I told her, and this is October, I said, by February, if you just stay consistent, because you got the name, you just don't know you had the name. She was with Tamara Goins, I think, at the time. I said, You'll make a million dollars before the end of February. And I'll never forget it. I screenshotted it. And I said, This is what you're gonna make every week. And I wrote it down. She said, You think so? I said, I guarantee it. At the end of February, maybe the first week of March, she said, on uh I showed you, it said Million Dollar Baby. I inboxed, I said, What I tell you. She was like, You called it. I've been selling out since I left you. Four shows, two in each city, two nights, Monday, Tuesday, Friday and Saturday, going back home, and sometimes I do an extra show and get uh two more shows. She was quiet. I said, We're gonna cover your travel, you eat for free, that's part of your per diem. You're gonna get you're gonna get the flu in the hotels on me. I said, You're gonna walk out every city and 40k. So that's 80,000 a week. She just looked at me. I said, Now do the math. She texted a million dollar baby. I responded to her, and she said, You called it. I said, I'm a club owner. I said, because the improv had 400 seats.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

She started doing Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and improv. Eight shows at 90%. And she was like, I didn't even think this was possible. I said, now you're good.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

And now she's on the breakfast club.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

And the Breakfast Club came after the fact. Yeah. And that's it's over now. Now you got the biggest morning show in the country, plus you can promote your own uh shows. Her platform is getting too big now. Yeah. So now she's it's over. Now she's building generational wealth. Her kids are gonna be straight. And I'm proud of it. Same with Country Wayne. Country Wayne, when I was talking to him, he was explaining him doing them shows. We booked him at the Laugh Lounge. And he was like, uh, man, I'm gonna start doing uh YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

And we we kind of blew him off. Like, okay. He said, I'm gonna do my own TV show, like young and the restless. I had no clue he was ahead of the game.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

And lo and behold, he dropped videos every goddamn day on YouTube, like a soap opera.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

And he does millions of views a week. And all the people on his show, the Mike knows guys, all of them are millionaires. That's what I said. We we got ahead of the curve at the Lav Lounge. We booked some guys that turned out to be the guys now, but I knew they would be good. And we lost a couple of uh guys from Tyler, the Marcus Combs, the Kool-Aid. Yeah, uh we lost somebody else recently, I can't think. Uh it's a female. I just gotta think about it. Uh, but we we were ahead of the curve, even Jess Hilarious. Uh I still I I I need to get Wayne this picture when he touched her leg and she looked down at his head.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

You still got the picture?

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

So as a matter of fact, hey, put that in this. I'm putting it there on the camera, but Oh, producer. Hey, I'm gonna send you this picture that he talked about that I took with Jess Hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

He overstepped his line. He tried to get the sample.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

I did not know I didn't try to get no sample.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Hold on, let's be honest. Jess when it got a sample?

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Oh, easily.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

But I wasn't in that wasn't intentional. It was on her before any of us knew that. I was like, man, she fine, she's my favorite. I'm like, yeah, she cool. He like, y'all don't know. Soon as we saw, I'm like, man, keep refreshing.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

That wasn't that wasn't intentional.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

He took the picture and put his hand on that lady's ass.

SPEAKER_00 32:35

No, I didn't, man. No, I did not, bro.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Well, the picture gonna speak for itself. It's on her thigh ass.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

First things first, we took two pictures. Okay. We took two pictures. I did kind of scoop her, kind of like she was my girl, though. I did do that, but it wasn't on her ass, man. It was like on top of her thigh. She's sitting down on a stool. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 32:54

No, I put it on the top of the thigh, bro. It was on the top of the. I mean, it was on the side. Man, pull it. We'll let y'all judge.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

I could have to pull the picture up right now. It's still on my Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

I bet it is. It's still on the Instagram to this day. I bet it's in your top five. So, and she turned around and as he's touching it, she's looking.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Because they didn't even snap. This is the crazy part. Muggs didn't even. It's wild because the picture looked the way it does on accident. Right. Muggs didn't snap the picture, but she was looking down the picture. Yeah, and then it's me looking up like what the fuck taking so long for the damn picture? And it's like straight.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

You had a long hold.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

Guess who's taking the picture? Tell them who was taking the pictures. Actually, who was taking the pictures? Her boyfriend was taking the pictures. Oh shit. I'm like, Wayne finna have to whoop you. We've been at the beat Chris to death up in there. Chris was gonna have a chance.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

Her boyfriend was taking the picture. All the pictures.

unknown 33:46

Damn.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

And all of us, he couldn't be in that. Nah, so peep this shit. Actually, this yeah, definitely would have got a chance. And then we all had burnt us. But this is the part. I need to go into that. Yeah, yeah, that's the part. But the funny thing is, this also the other shit, right? What made me want to take that kind of picture, right? Because Larry, Larry Green saluted my nigga Larry Green.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Larry Green, my brother.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

He performed, he opened for her. And he took his picture with it, and it was a whole.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

Like he held the whole skill on her.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

But he didn't make it.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

He held the little, yeah, but you didn't make the two-hand hold. Yeah, he did a two-hand hole. So I'm like, I whatever. She being cool. So I'm like, get my picture, get the picture. And man, that shit was.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

He put his hand on her skin, though. You had skin. It wasn't on no damn skin. It was skin, bro. When you get the picture, we we keep sure we gonna put it.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

And she was looking down at my hand because my hands was cold because she said that.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Oh, is that what she said?

SPEAKER_00 34:36

Yeah, she was like, Your hands are cold.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

He disrespected her man. We'd have beat dude to death, but you know, we wouldn't be doing this interview right now if he got out of line. Motherfuckers, we probably be working on our seven-year bed. We've been at least seven years in.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Hold on, man.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

You gotta find it now. No, I I got it right here.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

It's literally on my Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

Can you walk it up to the camera?

SPEAKER_00 34:54

Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold up.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

So y'all can see the picture. Are you gonna walk in here? Can you see that?

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Yeah, all right. So boom. So this is my picture.

unknown 35:02

Right?

SPEAKER_00 35:02

This is my picture with Jess and everything.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

And we're gonna add it in here somehow.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

And that's the segment. Alright. Like, that's not how this picture was supposed to look.

unknown 35:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

Her boyfriend was taking a picture, yeah. Wayne had his hand on her skin for about at least a minute and a half. But regardless of the fact, man. Wayne Martin, this one Wayne Martin uh this when it launched.

SPEAKER_00 35:29

And he was trying to give uh it launched in 2015, but I it it it it rose to prominence.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

Yeah, yeah, I like the word. Yeah, it rose to prominence around this time. It was established in 2015.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

Yeah, but it rose to prominence.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

It went viral with just hilarious. And did you you posted that?

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Yeah, I posted it. It didn't go viral, but yeah, I tell you. I went viral. Actually, I sent it to her. She when we after we took the pictures, she told me to send her the pictures. Now she never responded to him or nothing because I took she never responded back to him about nothing, but yeah, yeah. She was like, shit, send me the pictures. I'm like, bit, here you go. She might have done it, it might have attacked you.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

You just didn't see it. I mean, I don't I don't know. Yeah, but that's dope. That's how I started though. That that was some funny laugh lounge experience, and uh we had some we had some wild shit going on in that comedy club sometimes. It was some we stuff we can't talk about.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

I'm gonna be real, man. I'm actually I was actually sad. I'm gonna be real. I actually didn't think it would survive. I know COVID hit and y'all like everything closed down shortly before COVID hit. Yeah, I'm gonna be real, just the management alone, bro. Oh, yeah, that I didn't see y'all surviving COVID no way. But I was actually sad when the Laughlin was closed. It was like this is like my version of cheers, man, where everybody didn't know your thing. Like I can like I can walk in. Yeah, it was going it's like everybody chilling, everybody kicking it, man.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

You had to have a new management structure, new ownership, but it could have survived with different heads. That's what you were saying. So now I'm thinking, uh, we got something else cooking right now. And I almost opened another one like three months ago. It was just the parking. Everything was in place. The venue, everything's there. And I was adding on to something, but the parking is just too, it's just too bad. And I didn't want to fight when you have multiple shows, you gotta have Laugh Lounge is perfect for parking. Yeah. You got a whole damn lot. But you don't want to fight when other people have to leave for the other people to pull in. That just doesn't make sense. You doing an eight o'clock and a 10 o'clock. I had to do a six and ten.

unknown 37:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

I would need hours to separate. Because people like to linger at the Laugh Lounge, we've something like that motherfucker at three in the morning. Four, five.

SPEAKER_00 37:24

Shit. Son that came a couple times.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

Yeah. Because people like to linger around. Yeah. And that's a good, it was more of a family environment. That's one thing I miss about it. Because you know, you family, you know, you know, you can call me for anything, whether it's crime, rhyme or crime. So everybody there, I still have contact with except one person. I still have contact with them. Or they'll reach out, or I see them in gyms, or they reach out to me on social media, or if they need tickets or something. Because I'm still on, I mean, I'm on even on the radio now. Every Friday, I got funny Fridays with uh my brother DJ King.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

100.3 to B, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Every week. Yep, 100.3 to B. It's another hip-hop station in St. Louis.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

So, question Did comedy hit first for you, or did the right? Because you also been doing the radio for a long ass time, too. Right. So, how exactly did you break into that?

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Well, comedy uh started Cedric Entertainer is the first person, first person to ever bring me on stage. I was at uh the funny bone, I was working there. Uh, my brother Sidney was working there. He brought our whole family in. My mom, my brother Charlie, rest in peace to him, uh, Docs, Duck. Um, he brought all of us in. And just being around it, we would sneak and do it. And I was like, man, one day I want to do comedy. So Cedric, they would come in the back, and I was the bus boy, and I'm talking to them as they walking through, and he, him and the guy named Percy Cruz the second, or the third, I think Percy Cruz the second, they would talk shit to us, and then I'll talk shit back. You know, just funny. I ain't even cursed back then. I was like a little nerdy kid. And uh one day, Cedric's like, man, you should go up. I was like, I don't know, man. He said, I'll give you 20 bucks. They was like, I'll give you 20 bucks to go up. Everybody, Al Canal, shout out to my homie Al Canal. Al Canal was like a legend in St. Louis. Everybody had the Al, I know Al Canal bumper sticker. And he's like, man, we give you 20 bucks. Back then, 20 bucks was like 40,000 to me. Because it wasn't no, you know, wasn't no, it wasn't nobody giving the big face 20s, you know, before them. You know, I'm talking about the original 20. $20 was gonna get me back and forth to work. So he was like, all right, and Cedric like took a cigarette out. He's like, everybody get your cigarettes out. We got a comedy version. I didn't have a clue what I was gonna say. But I had an idea, but no, really, no real format. I got on stage, just ran through it. And I got on stage, everybody pulled cigarettes out, and I never forget it. And uh I was uh 17, I think, at the time. And Cedric was like, he ended up making it after that. He ended up doing Comedy View, he did the uh the Luther Van Dross and all the other stuff, and Cedric just took off. Yeah and um I just kept doing it. So I went from working as a bus boy in the close to the bone cafe, and then when they closed that, they just kept me in the uh they didn't want to get rid of me. So they kept me as a trained me to be a bus, uh, a door guy. I was so small, door guys had to throw people out and shit. I was small. I could fight, but I was just too little.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:59

So sometimes somebody didn't show up, like an open mic, or I mean the first act or the feature act didn't show up, I they would throw me on stage. I would just switch shirts and jump on stage. And people like, hey, that the fucking out of gave us these shitty suits. So comedy was tough for me, so I would I learned to do it that way. And then it just bec it just became repetition, repetition, repetition in senior year. I did it at my high school, I did comedy at the high school in front of all the students and murdered. I did somebody else's joke though, if I'm being honest, I'm just new. But uh I did uh Lavelle Crawford, shout out to my brother Lavelle Crawford. I did this bowling ball joke about the uh the white pens with the red necks. That's why he like bowling, because it's the red necks. That was one only joke I could think of. I did my own little jokes, they wasn't hitting good, so I had to go to Lavelle's. So I went to Lavelle's. And when I went to Lavelle's, it killed, and I was like, damn. And I told him I did it. He's like, man, that's really a stock joke. But I felt bad about it. Then I was like, okay, that's what it feels like when somebody steal a joke. So Lavelle Crawford ended up taking off. He had a, at the time, he had this uh thing. I don't know if you know about it. It's called Sanford's. Sanford's was a legendary spot for black comedy. Lavelle Crawford was the host. I went up there and tried to do that funny bone material. It wasn't hidden like that. It wasn't hidden. I'm going to corporate jokes. Damn my.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

I attempted it. But literally, you started with all of the broke. I got dirt. Yeah, I you know what I'm saying. Salute to my salute to my nigga Reggie. Salute to my nigga Vince. He's killing it right now. Salute to my nigga Steph. Yeah. Salute to the young boy Cam.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

All them cats doing it.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

Vince and uh Vince is doing real well.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 41:51

I'm very proud of him, Cam, Steph, and my and Reggie. Reggie, they all different. And you was with that's your group.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

So but it's funny you said that. That's his group. That's his comedy.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

It's funny you say that, right? Because you say like you tried the funny bone shit in this hardcore place. Yeah. Because literally, that's what the fuck happened to me. My dumb ass.

SPEAKER_01 42:12

Hold on. Your first night was at my thing, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 42:14

No, that wasn't the first night. I thought I no. So Ambassador wasn't your first one. No. My very that was my first time in front of like so. Niggas. Pretty much. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So motherfucking uh my homegirl Morgan Casey, she was doing this thing called the Rise Open Mic. As you know, in the city, Muggs go poetry shows, whatever, to try to get stage time, right?

SPEAKER_01 42:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

They was also every Tuesday going to the open mic at the Funny Bomb. Helium wasn't open yet. So I used to go up there with him as the cameraman. You know what I'm saying? I'm shooting their footage and I Morgan was doing poetry?

SPEAKER_01 42:52

Morgan was doing poetry.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

No, no, no. She was just doing poetry shows.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

She was just doing, yeah, it was called the Rise Open Mic. It was uh it was because it was the same place that Javon did uh his Wednesday night at and Lola's. That's what he used to do. Lola, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Lola's and then it turned into the boom boom room. And when it turned into the boom boom room, that's when she was holding her uh her show out of there every uh Wednesday. Anywho, so I'm going up there, I'm performing. And you know, I ain't I I can't say I ever killed, but I got a decent amount of laughs that it's like, I tweak this, work on that, whatever, whatever, it's cool. But my first time ever doing comedy was going to the funny bone. I used to ride with Reggie up there. You know what I'm saying? We'd meet Stefan, Vince, Cam eventually came into the group, whatever, whatever. And honestly, I'm the outcast. All them niggas really did want to do comedy. I'm just Reggie Pottner, you know what I'm saying? That's whatever. Yeah, just tagging along. So I'm here with the camera and I record they shit, whatever, whatever. And we on our way up there one Tuesday, and the nigga, uh, the nigga Reggie was like, hey, he was like, man, shit, you should try to get up. Cause they was like, they was getting real strict on, you know, people say they a comic and get in, but then don't perform.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

So he was like, man. He like, yeah, bro, they on motherfuckers' heads about not paying and shit. And I was like, shit, I just signed up on the open mic list.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Signed up. It was five dollars back then. Yeah, it was like five, it was like five bucks. Yeah. And uh, but shit, niggas ain't have it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. I ain't ashamed to say this shit. I ain't have it. Yeah, not every week, anywho. So we stood up here and um I signed up and get on stage, man. And my first joke was breaking down uh how people don't call things by the proper name. Be like, oh man, you do that UFC, and I'm like, UFC is the brand. Yeah, MMA is the sport. And I just kept breaking it down like just abstract shit, and like I can't say it killed, but everybody laughed. Right, right, right. And I just kept working at that. And then they was like, yeah, man, we going every Sunday, ambassador. Hey, we going up the Jesse shit, and I seen weeks of that shit, and how hostile the crowd was, and I'm like, you know what? You had to be funny. Yeah, I'm like, man, I'm looking at all this shit, and I'm just like, man, fuck it, man. I've been getting some last fucking man. I tested out up here. It got up there, drew a blank. I ain't remember not one joke, and got dead filthy on that stage. I got booed. Clean the fuck off the stage, man.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Everybody get booed. There's a lot of people that see, and then the ghost that got booed.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

I know that. But see, this is the thing, and this is why I stopped. I know comedy is a repetition sport, you know what I'm saying? You're not gonna hit it out the park every time. But it was like, I can't keep getting because I was mad enough to fight. Yeah, yeah. That drunk is ain't nothing worse.

SPEAKER_01 45:55

That drunk dude, you can see the people booing you. Uh-huh. It ain't like a TV thing. When you get booed, you can almost zoom in. You can you can zone in on you can come in on their face.

SPEAKER_00 46:04

Like, you must see you. I see every motherfucker on this tall ass stage. Yeah, yeah, you can see it. That's talking crazy. Not only, mind you, not only am I getting booed, it's hella people in this room. Yeah. Everybody that's hella animated. Yeah, I see them. Yeah, yeah. And I'm mad enough to fight. Like, man, I nah, bro. I can't take it. Yeah, nah, I can't, I can't, nah. I can't survive in this. I can't keep working through this. So that was it for me. But nah, that drunk dude got on that stage, man, and was like, I was purposely trying to antagonize dude to like even brush against me so I can hit him, dog. But he ain't take the bait. But yeah, my comedy career died that night. So for you to say, yeah, I was at the funny bone and came here, like, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

It's a real thing, man. Cause uh I had to learn that funny is funny. But at the same time, it's just the word way you word stuff can flip into crowds. Like, I would never say the N-word in front of white people. Never. Get around black people, I was scared to see it. Then my mother's like, that's your crowd. So now they'd be like, nigga there. Then I go to the funny bone, I'd be forgetting. I'd be like, a nigga, ah, and it throw my whole set off. But I just didn't like doing it. Now I'm just raw, uncut, whatever I want to do. I'm gonna say whatever I want.

SPEAKER_00 47:15

Right.

SPEAKER_01 47:15

You know what I'm saying? Now I'm unfiltered.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

So I got a got a question, man. Um, because I know you gotta get up out of here. I don't want to take up too much of your time. Question though, for somebody who's been around doing comedy for three decades, you say Cedric put you up on stage, you was around for Lavelle Crawford, you know what I'm saying? You was around for a lot of legends. And St. Louis, you know what I'm saying, not even quite as it's kept. Like a like most of the best comics in the world came out of the Midwest. And a lot of them, yeah, a lot of the legends came, you know what I'm saying? Dick Gregory, motherfucking Cedric. It's a lot of comics. Lavelle Crawford, like a lot of the legends came out of St. Louis. What would you think?

SPEAKER_01 47:59

Craig Hawksley, Joe and Guy Tory. Joe and Guy Tori, the Tories. Yeah. It's a lot of people. B Flaps from here. It's a lot of comics came out of the Midwest, I think has the when I look at it, like Chicago is the mecca right now for especially headlining black comics. They got more than anybody.

SPEAKER_00 48:16

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

They got like 90 touring. From I mean, from Look Reels to the D-Rays to the Corey Holcombs, uh Craig, you name them, Rodney Perry, LeVar Walker, all these guys. They stay in other spots, but they're from Chicago, though. Chicago. I'm talking about it's it kills me. It's deep. It's a they got, I'm thinking J Deep. I mean, this they are big. They are big. And then I would go. To me though, Midwest is hands down the biggest melting pot for headliners. You got the South and New York doing their thing as well. But I'm talking about the most is definitely the Midwest. I've seen black touring headliners is definitely the Midwest.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

So what would you say was the best era of comedy that you've witnessed out of the city of St. Louis?

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Probably the 90s that I've seen. So what's what's the names that's the names at the time coming in the 90s, right before the 2000s hit, uh, a lot of names was coming. I would say late 90s because I saw the Lavelle Crawfords, I saw Kathleen Madigan, I saw Ron Raimi, I saw Percy, I saw um Cedric, I saw I'm thinking of both sides, because I saw both. I was in the white clubs and the black clubs, Michael Pace, uh, I watched uh Zach and Mac, rest in peace to them. They were huge. They would they would have been big, big. Then I watched the rise of like uh I've seen Darius Bradford's.

SPEAKER_00 49:48

I watched Damn we done went this far and I mentioned salute to Darius Bradford.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

Yeah, so I I saw Darius Bradford, I saw uh Rodney Dangerfield, Rest in Peace, he's deceased as well. I watched uh Rise, the start of Javon Bs, Arvin Mitchell. I've seen them all coming. Like Slims. Lil Rock was doing it before I mean, he was already established. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

Uh shout out to the nigga was in music videos and shit.

SPEAKER_01 50:15

Yeah, so I watched it all just doing this. I watched it. Now you got guys that that was my golden era, because when they used to have these award shows like uh the traffic awards when it was real comics. Yeah, like real comics, you had to be funny. I won quite a few of those. Arvins Warren, Javon Warren, uh Lavelle. Those were the funny. When you went to a show, you saw the Andre Hams. I'm talking about in the prime when he was running with Martin Lawrence. Shout out to my brother, uh, brother Dre. I'm talking about Master Jews, the Eric Rivers, every it was a Willie Rancers. It was so many comics that could smash that stage. And you had to go up behind Death Row. That's where I came up in. Now you go to a comedy show. Now, it might be 10 comics on the show, only two gonna be funny. You know what I'm saying? Because they just put me on the show and they was like, Jesse here. I was like, Y'all just want to get down. They're like, uh, we got to put you up real. And I was like, Bet. The whole back was like, no, not him. Don't let him go second. I ended up just popping up, end up going last. 15 comics, and I'm just doing open mic. Nobody wanted to go. I didn't care who was funny when I was coming up, because you had I made a hit list when I started doing comedy. All the people I thought were better than me, I wrote their name down. And I just, who I thought was the weakest to the strongest. I'd never forget this until I was able to stand on stage next to them. I had Darius and all their names wrote down. And Darius like laugh because I always thought he was like a great showman. He knows how to control the room. Yeah, he does. And I was just marking work is impeccable. I was marking these names off. I could beat him. I would just focus on him. Anywhere he went, it's kind of I would go where he at, just to I could beat him, focus on him. And I had like eight names on my list, and I was just taking them down notch by notch. So I was like, Darius, like the last one we did a show at the spot. Like I'm like, I'm on your ass tonight. And he laughed it off. I'm like, I'm dead ass serious. I had been grooming myself, like preparing different rooms, samplers. And when he got on stage, he hosted. I went after him and did 30 of depth and told him, Hey, you come up and do more. I'm gonna go again. I wanna go twice. I had already dirty. Darius came up this in time, Galloway said, bring him back out. Brought me back out, I did another 30. And the guy, and Darius like, gave me five and saluted. I was like, all right. And now I knew then, I was like, and I got more time. But they didn't know. So I went from doing that, and then I had my Sunday night, which is still the largest night in St. Louis in the Midwest history. I do a I drew a thousand people every week at the Starlight Room. Legendary. I brought Corey Holcomb, the Kool-Aid's, the D-Ray's. If you Google B. Cole that talks about the gun being pulled, that was at that was with us. It's animated now. That was with us. Guy stole his joke and had the nerve to say something crazy. He was with a guy and Kenny Howe was there, my cousin Mike Joy was there. Uh Maurice G was there. It it got ugly. And Deion Cole, I'm sorry, I said B Cole. Dion Cole, I apologize. Dion Cole took our running. We had to call his phone. Like, he said, Man, they got a gun. I'm like, Yeah, that's us. Come back. You know what I'm saying? He'll tell you, shout out to my brother Dion, because he told me he told it on Big Boy.

SPEAKER_00 53:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:20

But it's a whole skit now. It's a cartoon animated skip. That was at Galloway spot. It was called the Starlight Room. We used to leave the Starlight Room and then we started St. Louis Knights. We do a thousand there and a thousand next door. Damn. Every Sunday for seven straight years. Nobody in the city could touch it. And we let everybody in free before nine. We'd have maybe 400 people in there before nine. We do another 500 after nine. So whoever got in with that ticket could get in next door. And they didn't close at 3:30. It was I got footage of that, man. I'm talking about legendary night in every comic from Foolish to Be Flat. Everybody did this room. That was the, to me, the most legendary night. And I didn't think people appreciated it. And now it's gone. It's hard to explain to somebody unless they watch film. Like when I said Def Comedy Jam, you had the Bernie Max, the Steve Harvey's, the D.L. Hugless. You had all these guys in a row. Chris Tucker was on there.

unknown 54:16

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 54:17

And everybody just kind of ignored it. And then all of a sudden they was like, oh, they huge now. But Def Comedy Jam and BT's comedy view, comics that did those shows tore today off what Russell Simmons did for them in Ice Cube. And uh BET. And they still still to this day can work. The Dio Hewties that they launched their uh last comedy, not last comedy Sandy, uh the uh uh Kings of Comedy Tour. Yeah, all those guys got launched off those platforms BET's Comedy View and Def Comedy Jam. Bernie Mack. I ain't scared of you motherfuckers that was off Dev Jam. Yeah, those were legendary comedians. The Tony Roberts, all these guys, people remember these comics from off comedy, Def Comedy Jam, and BET, because we all had to go in the house. Now TV's streaming now. Now you can make it just sitting in your room doing uh skits and sayings and stuff. So I just gotta catch on to that wave of it. But material-wise, I was groomed different. I had to do the work with the comedy. I didn't know about social media. Now I'm kind of I'm late. I'm a late bloomer. But once I figure it out, because my ideas are everywhere, I just want to win on stage. You come see me, I promise you'll come back.

SPEAKER_00 55:27

Indeed. Last two things before we get up out of here, man. Uh as you know what I'm saying, I call you the STL King of Comedy.

SPEAKER_01 55:36

For sure.

SPEAKER_00 55:37

Because what I've seen you do, I've seen nobody like there's not too many people here. There's plenty of people try to book their own shows. I've never seen anybody have more people at their shows than you and do it consistently the same way. You know what I'm saying? Uh, and it like from the ambassador to owning your own club to the shit you did at what was that? St. St. Charles' Alton, Illinois. Oh, yeah, I did that for two days. Yeah, it out two days. Alton, uh, all kinds of shit. Yeah, I've been to IP. Yeah. I yeah, you was the last person to have the IP.

SPEAKER_01 56:12

Doing seven, eight hundred people a week.

SPEAKER_00 56:14

Yeah, you had the IP before that mug got towed down. You know what I'm saying? After.

SPEAKER_01 56:17

Yeah, we took a we had a night close. Uh the police shut us down at uh St. Louis Knights, and I stood on the lot, sent everybody over to the monastery. I like, hey, we're having a show at the monastery tonight. Go over there right now. They didn't think I could do it. We sold out just for me standing on the lot. I told my meet him over there. I just stood there. His cars are pulling up. We over here tonight. I did 700 people at the mono, but people don't know what it's like to be consistent. Like right now, I have the largest night in St. Louis right now. It's a Tuesday. Yeah, treasures. Yeah, treasures. Unmatched. Unmatched. I've taken clubs that had no motion and we give it motion because it's just consistent. People know what product I'm gonna put out. And right now, my Tuesday night is the largest one in the city. Hands down, it's comedy karaoke. Shout out to my brother uh DJ Cuddy. Shout out to my sister, Big Lex. And it's uh we sell out, we've been sold out for five straight months. Sold out. Grown folks. No bullshit, no fights, no none of that. Grown people looking to have a good time. Great food. Amazing environment, bro. You gotta you gotta come down and experience it. Bring the weight more experience. Now that this is coming out, women gonna be in your inbox. Like, hey, what's up with the samples?

SPEAKER_00 57:26

I'm a I'm a I'm a daddy now, man. Ain't got to do with samples, bro. Samples have been dead for over what? We had 25 samples have been dead for.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

So Jess Hilarious getting your inbox right now. What's up with that sample? You passing it?

SPEAKER_00 57:40

I come out of retirement for a sample for Jess Hilarious, man. But that's whatever, man. But that's that's here though there. That's neither here nor there. But anyway, go ahead. But nah, what as I was about to say though, is um as a king of comedy of the city, you know what I'm saying? Who would you say or because obviously the comedy scene here now is definitely not what it was when I first started coming around, and it's definitely not what it was when you was coming up. Who would you say are, you know, the movers and shakers of comedy in uh in St. Louis today? Javon Bibbs. Facts. He got the Class Clown show tonight. Yeah, uh, Javon Bibbs.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

My brother Javon Bibbs. Um, I would definitely say in St. Louis, Larry Green, Lady Reefer Show. Facts. Late my sister sell out every everywhere she go. I'm talking about people that consistently putting on something. I would say uh you talking about comedians or shows you talking about comedians. And I would go uh in the city that I've seen. Precious Jay doing a lot of shows. The only ones I really see that's consistently movies and shakers that I know that throw a lot of stuff that people they get, and um DeAndre doing show church shows, those are really good. But I'm talking about from what I see, yeah. That I see Javon B. Lady Reefer show, Larry Green, and I know I'm forgetting somebody, I'm just trying to think. Um that I see. And uh Marvin Davis has been throwing shows, doing pretty good at Treasures as well. And uh from what I see, that's just what I've seen. It's somebody else. I know I'm forgetting because I just talked to them and they did real good. Uh is it Saquia or Nooney LaRue? It's one of those young ladies, and I I apologize if I'm forgetting, but it's somebody else that's uh consistent. Like my brother Javine is consistent. He put ads in seats, but Lady Reed, yeah, Lady Reed killing. Killing. Sus code with it. And uh she sold our KJs like three times. I sold it out once, but she did it like three straight. I was like, yeah, that's that's what's up. And shout out and Frank Lyles, Frank Lyles when he threw his show. Salute to my dog Frank L, man.

SPEAKER_00 59:56

I gotta get you over here on the show, man. Yeah, yeah. That's my dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

My brother, yeah, man. He uh he put ass in seats. I'm talking about putting asses in seats, though. So the comedy scene-wise, and then I think it's a lot of hate in this in the comedy world too. A lot of a lot of bitch ass dudes. And I and I don't understand it because 90% of comics straight soft. I'm just being honest. They hoes, they ain't gonna fight. They had social media whoop you, but they ain't gonna pull up. Like I pull up on you, no problem. It's some comics that are gonna go. I give I ain't gonna say 90%, I say 80% hoes. And I'm and they don't edit this out. They straight hoes. They're not gonna do nothing. They're gonna just talk it, they're gonna do everything but pull up. You know what I'm saying? So most entertainers like that, period. Rappers too. I know a lot of whole ass rappers. They do a lot of internet keyboarding, but they ain't gonna do nothing. They don't wanna, when it's time to throw hands or something, they ain't gonna do it. They damn sure ain't going past the hands. They don't, they damn sure ain't doing the other thing. But it's just be funny because you they they do this on this, these blogs and these internets. Then when they meet up, hey man, I went in. They hit you with the DJ Pooh. You know I went in the trip. I went in trip. I done seen motherfuckers get punched on, they don't fight back. I done seen it. I done seen motherfuckers get slapped, they don't do nothing. Hands and eyes, they do nothing, spitting their face, nothing. Yeah, man. They do a lot of this and you press them, they not like that. They and I ain't no bully, but I didn't press comments, and I'd just be like, it ain't about that for me. If you get me to a point where I'm not gonna argue with no man, but when I see you, it's gonna be just like when we left it when we was on the internet. I'm gonna press you when I see you. And if you go crooked, you getting dealt with, right? You it's going bad right then. I don't give a fuck where we at. Snooks, church, Christians. I'm on your ass. That's just, and I don't bother nobody, and I don't want no problems. I especially don't want to hurt no black people. But if it's the black person that brought that energy, I'm whooping your ass on site, snooks, police station, I'm putting you down right there. And everybody be laughing, I'd be like, and I'm not joking. And I'm dead serious. And everybody be like, so I don't try to put out negative energy, but what I've learned in this comedy game, and it got so negative, you see it now. Even with the people coming out defending Puffy. I watched the documentary. I ain't seen it, too. Shit all bad, bro. It's bad, but you know how big of a narcissist you got to be to record yourself saying dumb shit like that, and knowing this video and you won't even get that footage, you let that shit come out your mouth knowing you're being filmed, that means you felt you was untouchable. And I think comics do that. They'll say shit or they'll get across that line. Like battle rappers to me, I don't know how none of them are not dead. Fuck your mother. You suck my dude be sucked my dick. I be like, oh my God.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:29

You're in the community. As a stable of the STL battle rap community, man, and my producer being the progenitor, uh, ground zero of uh the STL battle rap community.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:39

I mean, there's been some scuffles, but 90% whoop, bro. Ain't nobody touched Cassidy yet, bro. Caz like, you a you have what about your dead brother? Suck my dick. I'd be like, dumb, I couldn't have took it. Ain't nobody gonna say fuck my dead brother. And it's going right then.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:54

Yeah, that's why that's why I only got only got one battle. You a fighter. And I know you're gonna throw your hand. I only got one battle and it was with somebody that I respect. Salute to my nigga Millie G.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:05

Because yeah, you will fight if somebody called me. I'm getting off right at the we going. I'm gonna leave before I say something be like, if you go to cross the line, I'm going. We're gonna just that's why it is with comics. See, I come up in the comedy area when it wasn't censored. We was Jonin, Jonan, Jonin. Yeah, hurt.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

I I heard from the backstage behind shows, before and after shows is some of the best shit in the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:25

Best shit you ever see. It's footage of me and Javine. We're killing a few comics. But that's what I'm saying. But then comics are wait till you leave and they'll get on Facebook. Yeah, I ain't gonna say no name, this bitch ass comedy. They they talk about you, but they don't say your name. I don't like that. To me, that's like the softest shit ever. You have a problem with a man, I'm a man, I'm gonna address the bitch. Hey man, what's going on, bro? Hey, let's talk about it. And we ain't gotta be friends, and we'll leave it right there. See, you a lot like me. I'm not gonna. You just had this happen with the uh, I don't know, I ain't gonna even bring that up. But I I seen you because I asked you about it. I ain't gonna talk about it now. We're gonna talk about it after this. But you was like, hey, I'm easy to find. We ain't gonna talk about it. Oh no, that can be spoken about. No, no, no, we can't. Not not today.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:05

Okay, so look, you the guest?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

You know what I'm saying? So, but you was there, I know you, and I got in the comments. Like, if you need me, you was like, No, I'm good. But you was dead ass seriously. Like I'm easy, I'm that's how I am. We men, we can have a conversation, bro. My opinion is my opinion. I have a right to that. You have a right to your opinion about me. I have thick skin, bro. I'm I stayed in California before. I get it. But don't cross that line when you start taking money out of my pocket. When you take money out of my life, yeah, I'll mess with my livelihood. Yeah, you mess with my livelihood. I've had comics steal money, like people book me on shows, they like, no, not him. And the kind the promoter come back and tell me. And I just be like, damn, for sure. Or, dude, like, man, I got two grand for Jesse. I want to get Jesse here. And they'll call me, man, dude, say you got 500. I'm like, I'll do it for you. But he still got the 1500. Yeah, that's I'm on you when I see you.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

Yeah, facts.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:50

I need that.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:51

And if I gotta come for it, I'm coming for mine and yours.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:54

That's that's why. So I was getting a bad name. Even Scruncho was like, on uh, he was on the 5150. He was like, man, I've seen Jesse knock out all these people. And I was like, Oh, scrunch, don't do that on that show. It's platform's too big. He's like, No, it's all love, bro. People already know. I'm like, yeah, but that's a bad look for me because I'm not that guy no more. Yeah, I am, but I'm not. I don't want to be known for being aggressive. Now, if we men, we have a misunderstanding, we could talk it out. But if you get disrespectful, I'm not gonna disrespect you. We just gonna handle our business. We're gonna fight or wherever we got to take it to shut you the fuck up. And I'm cool with it, however, you wanted to go. But I just learned in this comedy world, it's so much backbiting. Dude, a book, you on the show, as soon as you walk out the dress room. Yeah, I can't stand that bitch. Them cowards to me, bro. That's the whole way of shit. So I I don't think you would have fit in this weird world. Okay. You would have, I know you, and you would have smashed a few comics in this city. I know this to be fact. Yeah, no. You just you'd have got them like I'd be I like I I I I try to play.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:50

I ain't gonna say I play the fence, but I be decent and polite to everybody. You know what I'm saying? Until you get until you rub me the wrong way, you get you okay in my book.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:58

That's how Javine is, Javon. Is always the voice of reason, man. That's all good, bro. I'd be like, nah, that dude a bitch. He'd be like, he'll listen, and he'd be like, nah, bro, let's just change the energy. Now, and I started listening. It took me a while to get it. So now it's just like anything that uh I don't have to deal with or entertain it, I just don't entertain it. So I create my own wealth, I create my own shows. I don't need to filter in people that I don't necessarily respect. If I don't respect you, I don't want to get money with you anyway. That's comics promoters anybody. If I don't have respect for you, I don't even want to entertain it. Because just like a comedy club, like you were saying, I have different uh mindsets and bit uh business uh ideas and it just does it doesn't mesh well. And I I don't I don't want to get money or deal with men I don't respect because in order for the money to sustain, I have to respect you anyway. So if I'm not around, me and you own like me and you think alike. Me and you at a club together, I know when I leave it's gonna run a certain way because me and you think alike. I know you ain't gonna be in there grabbing nobody's vagina. Somebody be like Definitely the fuck not. Wayne uh touch my vagina, I already know they're lying. I'm riding with you. So you gotta be able to trust like a kid, you gotta be able to trust your business like your child in the hands of somebody else that respected. I know if I done left you the laugh lounge, you weren't gonna let nobody fight, get raped, you're gonna just you're gonna run my business like it's yours. You it's we've we family. So in business, I learned to treat it the same way. I don't mix my business in something that I trust, like my brand, with somebody I don't have a level of respect or even playing field with. I don't even want to mix it. You know what I'm saying? So when you start hinting at taking money out of my pocket, or and I find out I'm gonna have an issue with that. So I just somebody call me, you can call me directly, call my management team. Don't go through another comic to get me, because comics skim off the top.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:45

Yeah. I've heard this a little bit. Middleman and I can tell you some movies. Oh, easy.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:50

This comics from this city, they take your money off top. And they're gonna, it's just a lot of janky promoters, and a lot of comics are janky promoters. Indeed, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:59

Well, I appreciate the time, Jesse, man. Let's get you out of here on this, man. Top five comics. If you can give me 10, let's do it, because I'm pretty sure it'll be easy to give you a top five. Top five comics currently working out of St. Louis today, and top five comics to ever come out of the city.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:21

Top five comics working today out of St. Louis.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:24

Yeah, out of St. Louis specifically.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:26

Sedge Entertainer, Lavelle Crawford, Facts, Derrick Bradford, Facts. With myself? Well, I take myself off the list. Javon Bibbs, okay, Arvin Mitchell.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:40

Damn, we ain't mentioned Arvin. Salute to my nigga Arvin.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:44

I'll take myself out. All the time coming out of St. Louis, Dick Gregory, uh Lavelle Crawford, Red Fox, Says Entertainer, Ron Raimi. Rest in peace, Ron Raimi. I would I I would've and I would uh I know I do 10. You said 10, right? Yeah, yeah. Craig Hawksley, no, Craig Hawksley, Kathleen Madigan, Buzz Sutherland, um somebody I'm thinking, uh Ronnie Dangerfield. Rest in peace to Ronnie Dangerfield. And I'm gonna go female. I did uh Kathleen Madden. B flat. B flat. Now if you say me my Mount Rushmore of all time comics, that's a different list.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:26

If you can give it, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:27

I got it. And then people get mad at my list, but I don't give a fuck it's mine. Richard Pryor. Okay. Eddie Murphy. Facts. Rodney Dangerfield. Come on now.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:36

No, I'm I can think of I mean I'm just Rodney Dangerfield is funny, but Google him. No, he's hilarious, but I'm saying myself, but he wouldn't make mine because I did some casts that's for different eras, man. Yeah. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:49

Eddie Murphy, Rodney Dangerfield, Richard Pryor, Dave Chappelle.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:54

Yeah, he makes mine.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:55

Dave Chappelle. I said Eddie Murphy, right? Yeah. I said Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Dave Chappelle. Yeah, Rodney Dangerfield. Ryan Dangerfield, George Carlin. Then I'm doing my top ten. Yeah. Red Fox.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:08

Animal. Anna. Animo. Then I had to throw in. I don't I now I'm gonna throw in names y'all probably don't even know. It's my top, it's my top five. You gotta put look uh Corey Holcomb in it. Okay. Foolish. One of the best I've ever seen. Foolish is fucking Kool-Aid, rest in peace. Salute, amen. Hey.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:30

Rest in peace, my nigga Kool-Aid.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:32

Mark is combs. Got to put him in that list. And then uh I would do Shiny D and Sean Jones. Like comics touring. These are my all-time. Like when I watch him, I'll just be like, these them cats. You know what I'm saying? Like, amen, dog. Shout out. Rest in peace, my brother Kool-Aid. Kool-Aid, boy, if he got his just due.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:51

Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:51

That was that Amen. That pass the joke was one of the best jokes I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:54

Man, look, I watched him stand up. I watched him stand up, building up the time he performed it. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:01

And he started off slow and he just he was battling cancer that whole time. Yeah, man. But when he was on stage, you never knew he was that sick. Yeah, at all. Yeah, so my my all-time list is a little different than most people. That's my top five, though. Rodney Dangerfield. Eddie Murphy, Richard Crur. Yep. Rodney and George Carlin.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:19

George Carlin and Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle. It's a solid five, man. Hey, Jesse. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Now you got who do you who you don't like Rodney Dangerfield? No, I like Rodney Dangerfield. He's just not in my top five. Like Rodney Dangerfield.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:34

He's in the top five all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:35

My top five all-time comedians is uh Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hart. We're gonna go back, Robin Harris, Patrice O'Neill.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:48

Patrice O'Neill, I see. Robin Harris only had one special. That's why I didn't put Bernie Mack in it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:53

I'm gonna be real. He only had one round. I'm gonna be real. I have a childhood bias to Robin Harris. Yes. And that's one of my all-time favorite movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:02

Chris Rock I love, but he had a lot of writers.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:04

That too. But he was uh he not my number one, it's actually Dave Chappelle. Yeah, Dave Chappelle was.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:10

Dave My Goat.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:10

He's up there. I had him at my number two until I seen him and Chris Rock. I seen Chris Rock and Kevin Hart both say they was writing their material to get ready to go because they was working some new shit out. I think I said And they say Dave got on stage and they bought their shit up and was like, oh, this ain't good enough and threw it away. I'm like, when the cats, I think, or them guys. Or them guys say you him, yeah, he moved to my number one.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:35

But the dude you respect as killer be like, hey, don't fuck with dude. You be like, hold on, I thought you was the guy. Yeah, killer, but uh that's nigga. He's a sociopath, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:42

Yeah, so that's that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:43

That's a good list.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:44

Hey, but Jesse Man, see, we wouldn't give me a cool hour half plus.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:48

Hey, I'm that's how I love.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:49

Hey, Jesse Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

I want to come back, we're gonna cut loose, take the gloves off.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:52

Most definitely, man. Hey, Jesse Man, as a you know what I'm saying, somebody I look to as a big brother, a mentor in life, man. Because you've given me a lot of solid advice, man, and vice versa, man. I truly appreciate you coming and spending time with me, man. Me and my my man's behind the camera, man. I can't shout him out enough, man. Uh trying to grow and do some bigger and better shit, man. Put light on the city and you know, it's talent here in all aspects, and you know, just trying to grow the platform, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:22

Any comic I bring into town, you want to interview them and get them, I can bring them right to you. Man, I can help you with the people, especially comics. I bring a lot of big acts. Yeah, I automatically I funnel them straight through here. They come here before they come to me.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:34

Hey, man, I appreciate it truly, man. So, hey, that's our time, man. This here has been the Wayne Mart experience, man. Hey, for those of y'all out there, if you want to be a part of the Wayne Mart experience, man, like shirt and subscribe.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:48

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:50

Almost act that way. I am the Almighty PK, man, Wayne Phillips, man. The man to my right, the one, the only comedy legend, man. Walnuts parks finest, man. Jesse Taylor, man. Y'all be cool. How y'all be cool, man? We out. Appreciate it.