TWME #5 - Street Status Owe

we Weston better known as "Street Status Owe' is the progenitor STL Battle Rap and the Underground STL Hip Hop Scene. He has been in the game for over 2 decades from buying his first camera in 2002 he started just filming the people in his neighborhood who were rappers, poets, fighting anything that was entertaining to his infamous "Fu*k Nelly Day" video. He's had everyone from MTV's Wild n' Out Hitman Holla to Dipset Member Jim Jones on his camera. Get to know him and his journey through this candid conversation on The Waynemart Experience.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Some clips, man.

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Why I'm on this motherfucker, man. Get you some clips. I wasn't some shit that's gonna push this shit.

SPEAKER_00 0:07

What it is, world, we here once again, man, the Wayne Mart experience. I am the one, the only Almighty PK, Wayne Phillips. And the man on my right, you know what I'm saying? You don't usually see him because he's a modest guy. But if you ever wonder that voice you hear randomly in the background during episodes, and the cat we be looking off camera to go see. And the guy I'm always saluting and shouting out, man. That's who this is to the right of me, man. We got him from behind the camera, man, and on the couch, man, to come talk to me today, man. The one, the only. I'm tripping. Before I even go into his name, y'all to drop the accolades, man. Figurehead of St. Louis. Mover and shaker of a lot of things that y'all gonna find out about during this podcast, man. The progenitor of STL battle rap, man, that has extremely deep roots into the underground culture that is STL, man. You know what I'm saying? If you're old enough, you remember it, man. You know what I'm saying? He cleaned up now. If you remember back in the day, he was in a big big t-shirt outside of vinyl records in U City, trying to see what was going on on Fuck Nelly Day. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Z has an extensive resume, man. The one, the only O Western, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

What's what's going on with y'all, man? Shout out to PK, man. Um, he definitely got a good thing going on. Uh uh I take pride in bringing his uh his ideas, you know, his projects to life, man. So I'm glad to sit on the couch, man. I want to get into it. And this nigga is the type of person that's gonna ask you those tough questions, and I'm here for it, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Well, I appreciate it. I appreciate it, man. Well, you know what I'm saying? Let me start, let's start out the pie. How I always start him out, man. I know where you from, because you never be quiet about it. But for those who don't know, man, where are you from? Man, what part of the city you from?

SPEAKER_01 2:07

Um originally, like I said, uh I was born in U City. Uh I was born on Corbett and uh Pennsylvania. Um my mom done stayed over there for quite some time. But um shit, you know, I was I was probably stayed over there till I was like one or some shit like that, and then I ended up moving to um shit. My mom moved all around, man. We stayed on Dale Moore. Pierre LaCleed, I don't know, I don't know if y'all know about that, but that's like right across the street from regional back in the day. Four nigga time. Um Yeah. But for my people who watching, they probably know. We stayed in, that was like our first crib, Pierre LaCleed. That was on Dale Moore and uh what what would that be, Clara? Yeah, Dale Moore and Clara. And then uh we moved south, man. We we moved north. Uh up in my teen years, I always uh stayed on uh no, I stayed at 4222 Warney. And when I say early teens, I mean like 10 to like 15 or whatnot. And uh we stayed there, that was my mom crib. But home base has always been Arletten and Ridge, man, on the west side. That's my family. That's that's the block that raised me. So yeah, that's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Definitely, definitely, man. So you know what I'm saying? I asked that for this reason. There's not really too many people that I could say are like legit legends in the city, you know what I'm saying? But you a legit real deal. Like, not only just a West Side legend, but an STL legend, man. I always, you know what I'm saying, I've been wanting to interview you for years as long as I've been aware of who you was, man. Like, I don't even know if you remember this, man. Do you I don't know if you remember our very first encounter. I probably don't. Alright, cool. So this is uh This is I want to say 2016. Mm-hmm. It's 2016. And uh, you know what I'm saying, Street Status. You wasn't you weren't doing battles at that time. It was in that, it was in that Street Status Hiatus time, so I want to say it was either 2016 or 2017, if I'm not mistaken. But you sat up here, man, and I remember coming to uh battle rap event with uh my partner Reggie, man, my partner Reggie, yeah, it was Reggie Cush, man. Go follow him on everything. Salute to my nigga. And I came to the event and I remember being in the event and everybody was just like, like, somebody walked in and everybody was like, it got real kind of whisper whisper in the room and shit. You know what I'm saying? I don't pay attention because I don't know nobody but my man's my man's Reggie. And the next thing you know, his mother was like, yeah, that nigga over here, man. That nigga, oh, da da da. This then the third.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

This must, it couldn't have been my event then.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

No, it wasn't your event. Okay, all right, all right. Yeah, it wasn't your event. But motherfuckers like, you know what I'm saying, whatever, whatever. Because a battle was going on when you walked in. Mm-hmm. And next thing you know, it's like, like, yeah, nigga, oh here, whatever. I heard it, but I'm not tripping off. I'm like, I don't know who the fuck that is. You know what I'm saying? I'm not, whatever. Battle, uh, the battle wound up ending, and you know, I just see hella people shaking your hand and all this other shit. It wasn't until the end of the night when the whole event was over, you and Marcos got into it. At the time, I was doing uh I was doing my on the spot camera work, you know what I'm saying? Camera footage, you know what I'm saying? PKTV was a great thing back in those days.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Anywho. I I do remember the night that you're talking about. I just didn't think that that was the first night.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

No, we actually didn't speak that night, but I had got that footage on camera, right? Uh-huh. I had posted it uh in the street report group, and Marcos had asked me to take it down because you was trying to keep it positive over there. But you wounded up inboxing me shortly after I took the footage down, and you was like, man, don't nobody really got footage of me like outside at all, man. So it's like you got some good footage, man. Keep up the good work. That was the first time, like, and I've yeah, I've been aware of you ever since then. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah, I definitely remember that night uh me and uh Marcos had uh it really it really was.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

I don't know what y'all got into it about, but I just know like y'all was Yeah, I don't know what y'all got into it about, but I just know y'all wind it up.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

I think I was probably, I was probably definitely drinking, you know what I mean? Um so any little thing probably. You know what I mean? Like I'm just keeping it real. Hey, any little thing probably kind of like pissed me off or whatever, but um that was that was that was it. But yeah, I do remember that night very well, though, you know what I mean? And I remember you behind the camera, but it was more like Marcos, KD, and DV. It was all it was.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Yeah, all of them was there, but it was basically just you, it was basically just you and Marcos doing all the talking. And I had got I had put it out and he had asked me to take it down. I kind of live off the rule. Like everybody get one. You know what I'm saying? You can't get that next one. Yeah, everybody get one. You shouldn't have been acting like that then. You know what I mean? Like you, if you you asked me politely to take it, say less, whatever, whatever, I do that. And anything after that, you know what I'm saying? Like you cashed in your one. Everything after that is open season, man. So I'm gonna be real, man. I don't know, I you know what I'm saying, I don't really know if you really be aware of it, you know what I'm saying? But you kind of an inspirational nigga, man. Like in all my years of like knowing you and kind of seeing like your transformation, especially like, like, especially going back to like, for those of you who don't know, because I'm tired of talking in circles a little bit, but for those of you who don't know, O is the creator of Street Status DVD. Correct. He's the creator, he's the founder of Street Status DVD, which holds literally for anybody in the city and anybody, definitely in the battle rap world, a lot of the origins of battle rap is on his page. He filmed it. It's on his camera. The Street Status YouTube page literally is like a library of like just battle rap history. Not just STL just like battle rap history. You know what I'm saying? So my thing is, how do you go from how do you go from guy outside of vinyl records that's hella animal? Which is why, because you not an animated nigga today at all. But to go back and see that footage, you like, hey Mo is fucked now, nigga. They said it's going down up, so we finna see what we can see. How do you go from that to this now, man?

SPEAKER_01 9:00

I'm I'm I'm just like uh a Swiss Army knife, man. If if I'm more like a team player. When I played sports, I was a nigga that I was only 5'10, 5'11, but I can play the five.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

Right.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

You know what I'm saying? So I can play one through the five. So at the end of the day, whatever needs I need to do to make some shit happen, that's what I'm gonna do. Right. You know what I'm saying? And another thing, I was like, I was like super motherfucking Snoop Dogg at the time. Like I was high as a motherfucker. Like I'm I blew, I probably blew so much weed, you know what I mean? So it kind of like just put me in a super, you know what I'm saying, like animated state and shit like that. But I felt like at that time that's what needed to be done, you know what I mean? And that's why you get that type of person that I was.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Yeah, because it's like it's like like seeing you going back and looking at this, it's kind of like, it's like damn, like, this nigga really.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Really, this is like 21 years old.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

I was talking about how old was you when you when you filmed it?

SPEAKER_01 10:02

I was that was 21 years ago, if I'm not mistaken. That's probably like 2005, 2006, somewhere around that time.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

That was middle school when you filmed that thing.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

It's probably like 20 years old. So at the end of the day, I was a totally different person too at that same time. Like, and I think with DVDs and shit like that and content, it was uh It was just like I was the host at that time. You know what I mean? It was like I was some motherfucking big Tigger or some shit. You know what I'm saying? Or I I needed to be that front man for that shit.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

I don't know if you watch wrestling or not, but this is one of the best references I can come up. He was like events McMahon. Like he was an announcer on his shit, not people not really tripping off the fact that he actually was the owner. You know what I'm saying? People watching before they found that out, he was just a nigga in a bow tie in a suit announcing the matches when in reality he was the owner of the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

No, no, come on now. You know I early on, I don't watch that shit anymore. But early on, I was watching that shit like a motherfucker, and I knew everything that was going on. You already know, like I used to call myself Mean Gene Oaken. You know what I mean? Like he was a manager, wasn't he? Yeah. He was uh he was a host, yeah, like yeah. So I'm very familiar with that shit, so I understand what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

So my thing is this, right? Your camera has captured, you know what I'm saying, a lot of history. Uh-huh. A gang of history, which we're gonna get into, but what made you, you know what I'm saying? What made you like pick up a camera?

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Okay, so I I'm I'm a D said kid, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I start I started um I started SLPS, of course. I take that back. I started preschool, bro, at U City Library. You know what I mean? That's the first place that I ever went to school at. Then my uh my K KG year, kindergarten, I went to uh Hodging over there on the south side, like I told y'all before. By third grade, a nigga was super excellent, because that's shout out to my grandmama because she always had me reading and she always just had me on some other shit when it comes to education.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

And uh by third grade we was living over on branch and shit on the north side, and uh my mom, I I was going uh Clay Elementary, right off the highway. Hall uh 70 and Salisbury, who don't know that fucking exit right there. And she ended up getting some D Seg papers and she was like she thinks she was like like my mom wasn't really wise enough to know, you know, all she was looking for was a better something better than me. My son's smart. I don't need it, you know what I'm saying, which was me and my little sister or whatnot. And I had a teacher at the time, and this was halfway through the year. So at the halfway mark, my mom took the shit to the teacher, and the teacher was like, Listen, Miss Weston, your son is a great student. Take advantage of this opportunity. And I ended up going to Chesterfield Elementary, later on went to Crestview, then I went to Marquette, but the whole time I'm deep off into computers and shit like that. You know what I mean? So the CD just didn't have that type of shit. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? They ain't have that type of shit then. So I was like super uh educated on like windows and shit, like out the gate. And um, I just had a love for tech at that moment. At that moment, now I could do whatever my mom and them need me to do with the VCR, the the Jackson, you know what I'm saying? We could plug the video game up. Um, listen, he is a go- I'm still the go-to person for that shit in my whole family still right now. They're asking, they still gonna ask me. But um, so how I got off into the the camera shit was I always kept the computer, I always was on the brink of what was going on with the digital world, you know what I mean? And I also merged that with I really was just the nigga that had the walkman and shit. I had the tape walkman, I had the CD walk man, I was that nigga that was riding the bus, singing motherfucking Tupac and shit. You know what I'm saying? Had a whole bus rapping the songs, and so I was always him collecting um source magazines, double XL. So my love for like hip hop and shit, like really grew from from the moment of like the jukebox and shit like that. 5158. Then my grandma and them, they had cable, so I was able to go catch BT MTV. You know what I'm saying? So uh I was just super engulfed in that shit. And I end up uh managing just being in the streets and shit. I end up managing Kenny Knox. We took, we took two trips to New York to try to get him a deal with Universal. I'd tell the story over and over again. And uh every time I would go to New York, I would um I would go to Canal Street and I'd get all the DVDs and shit like that. You know what I mean? Like and um so on the back of the DVDs I used to it used to be like a wholesale number. So what I started doing was I start buying the original copies from niggas. Like I'd be getting like 20, 30 copies of that shit at a time. All access, smack, cocaine city, man, just so much shit, bro. Just uh to where I was just shout out to uh Glockerware, Philly. I was getting a shit and I was just selling it on the streets of St. Louis. And uh I said, fuck that, I'm gonna go buy my own camera and start showcasing the people that I know, niggas come home from jail, beating on their chest and shit, always got crazy boys and shit. And I start filming just all street shit, all niggas rhyming, all niggas doing that. And so that's really how the camera. But my dude who who really introduced me to the camera though, is my white boy, his name Kerm. You know what I'm saying? Kerm Kerm got some history out here too. But he good and bad, because he had dropped like he dropped the he said nigga at at No, this real shit, bro. He said, he said nigga at uh at high point. I could like somewhere where he was the minority, he dropped, he said nigga, like in his rhyme. Because he really thought he was a a nigga, you know what I'm saying? And that's who I really picked the camera up for. He, if you look on that Fuck Nelly Day shit, you'll you'll see the camera kind of like pan past him a time or two, you know what I'm saying? But he he the one I bought my camera from him. It was a Canon GL uh one. You know what I mean? And the rest was history. I was on from that, bro.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

I got another question, but you mentioned the camera. Because I was I remember I was reading, I think that was what, Twitter? I think I was reading your bio and say, yeah, I bought my first camera from a crackhead in 2002.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Yeah, it wasn't Kerm. It wasn't Kerm who was the crackhead. Shout out to my nigga Clint, bro, on everything. He just passed. And me just growing up, calling him a crackhead, is absolutely insane. Which he did get high. But I have so much respect for this man, you know what I mean? Right. Despite him getting high, and he passed, it's probably like six months ago, you know what I'm saying? And the nigga had cancer at first, and he was losing all weight. They thought it was over for him then. But the nigga did like a a whole turnaround and he came out of it, you know what I mean? Got his health back, everything. And it was like a man, it was a m a miracle damn near. And uh he went back straight back to the streets that he knows his home. But he ended up passing, you know what I'm saying, maybe a year or two after he did his turnaround. But that's the person who I bought my first VHS Camcorder. I was about to say, yeah. It had to be. It had nothing to do with like entertainment port. I bought it and I was like on the block. So I was on All of Toning, just everybody. I was on this no hip hop, just filming people just saying random shit. Um and I'm on simple film and shit. So that's why you see. I said, I think I said like 2002. You think you're 02, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, the the uh hip hop shit didn't come with the camera until like 05, you know what I mean? Some shit around that time. So yeah, rest in peace, Clint, man. Number love.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Indeed, indeed, man. Um I actually do want to touch on that D Seg thing, man. So um, where was you, where was you, because I know you say uh y'all was in U City. Where was you staying at at the time when you when you got the uh uh D Seg paper? I was staying on branch. Branch on the case. Okay, so he so he's on the north side. Yeah. Yep, I was in the third grade. So I'm actually glad you brought this up because this is something I've been wanting to ask people around the city for a minute. Like talking to you, we actually, ironically, despite the age gap between us, got a hella shit in common. As somebody who, because I was a part of the D Seg program, I uh winded up, I went to Elliott Elementary, I went to GSL. That's on fur. That's on fur, on fur and quarter. I went to GSL, ran by uh, they was the the people that owned the place was uh Deacon. They was the they they owned the church, uh Union Sinai Missionary Baptist Church, the church I grew up in, right here on Spring and Cousins. They ran that mug. My uh doctor mama, she was hardcore in the church. She was that lady that know all the church business. Y'all ready to go home and you sitting on the steps waiting to get in the car, she and her talking to a million people. They call her house for the church van number, all of that, man. Anywho, boom. So I was at GSL. I wounded up graduating my class at GSL as validator. First grade, I went to Elliott Elementary, uh, right there in the uh right there in the dub. Cool. From there, I winded up at Crestwood. And I was at Cresswood from second to fourth grade. And then I got pulled out of uh I got pulled out of Cresswood because uh my daughter mom, she ain't drive on the highway, and she ain't like mobbing that far out. But in that time, and this always stuck with me, is like I went out there and it was a whole like different world out there. Like, it's like I go out here, I see the kids walk to school, but they feel, it's like it feels safe out here. It feels safe where we was learning, we was on computers and all that. We wasn't like we was still when I was at Elliott, we was still on Macintosh computers with the big square floppy for sure.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

For sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

You know what I'm saying? We was still on them joints, but we out here, they got, I don't think it was Dell, I don't know if Dell Computers was there back then. I know it had a Windows operating system, but they wasn't on the big floppy joints. We playing quests for Camelot and shit on the computers and Oregon Trail and all that shit. It's like, it's like, so my question to you is if somebody went through the DCA program, how did it feel leaving, you know what I'm saying, branch and blur where you stay at and going to the county, seeing a whole new world. You said Chesterfield, right? So you and then but you come back to this every day.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

Hey man, uh uh, and this is real talk, bro. I'm in talks with somebody right now about making a a doc about the D C program because there's so many layers to that shit, and that's a great question that you asked. It was just a complete culture shot. To be honest, um like I I'ma just keep it real, like my house always been a trap house. And it like this just facts, just letting a motherfucker inside of of my life, like my house, motherfucker knocking on the door all day, they getting cracked. You know what I'm saying? Like, my mom is at the reins of that, you know, like, and that shit was normal to me. You know what I mean? But when I went to school and I'm noticing that these kids don't have any of these things, you know what I mean? They don't have none of these issues. They got a mom, they got a dad, which, you know, everybody had their own problems, but it's just uh just comparing the two. So I it was it was kind of like I had envy, you know. I had envy for the white kids. And I really probably had envy for you if you was a black kid that stayed out there. You know what I mean? It was like, nigga, you damn near an alien. Like, how did how did your family make that happen or whatever? But um it was, it was, it was hot and cold, PK, man. You know what I'm saying? It was like, when I'm at home, I'm at home. I ain't bringing that shit from school home. When I'm at school, I ain't bringing that shit from home to school. I'm I'm Antonio and that motherfucker, I'm moving through there just like one of the regulars. But bro, it's a lot of trauma and all of that shit, though, still, though. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 23:26

I agree wholeheartedly, man, because I remember, I don't, I mean, I don't know if they did this where you was at. I know Lindbergh School District, they had this thing called Buddy Families, right? Mm-hmm. That was uh, so say uh say like certain situations gonna happen that's gonna mess up like traffic and all that stuff, or like so the kids from the city can get to school, they assigned every kid from the city with a, you know what I'm saying? They partnered them up with a kid who also go to their school that live out by where your school at. I never forget. I ain't seen this dude since I left, uh, since I left Cresswood, but it was this white boy named Keegan. His daddy used to work at Cecil Whitaker's Pizza. That's how I had it the first time. Because I was like, I'm like, boy, this this emo? They like, nah, this Cecil Whitaker's. You know what I'm saying? Like, whatever, whatever. Like, dude, like, dude had honeysuckled trees in his backyard and all that shit. And when it was like, I remember the Pope came to St. Louis one year and I wounded up staying out of his house because traffic downtown was finna be like ridiculous with him in town. So I stayed out there. But I asked that because it used to blow my mind even that young. Cause it's like when I'm out here, like, this is the first time I seen like police like gear kids, like baseball cars and shit for like running up to them and talking to them and shit. But down here at the crib, it's like niggas running away from the police. You see the boy, you ain't even there and shit. You just take off running. And it was like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, like, I had to walk. I had to walk, because I want to say after first grade, I went to Elliot for first grade. They was closed down the following year. Elliot, and it's been the school been closed down ever since. But I had to walk to Elliot as my bus stop every day. Me and my little brother Gus, we won't make my man's rest in peace, man. Rest in peace. We sat up here and we walked down to that bus stop and we'll go out here and it's a whole just like new world. And I used to think every day when I came home, like, damn, why come my area don't look like that? You know what I'm saying? So I always just I don't really meet too many other people that actually was a part of the D SIG program.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

You asked why your area don't look like that. Uh, and I know we probably talk about community and shit later on during the interview. Yeah, 100%. But it's it's 100% because of the educational system. So it just goes right back to what you talking about. Like, you ain't giving, we ain't giving them we ain't got the tools. You know what I mean? We ain't got the we ain't got the tools to make our shit look like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. And it's by design as well. But I ain't one of them woke ass niggas or nothing. I just going with the hard facts. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 26:11

Definitely, really, definitely, man. But we can get on that back to that in a second. But like I said, that D Sig thing, like, because you say that's where you like picked up tech from. Like you in the camera, I was in the cameras too, and all that shit. But I actually got that from my mama. Like, my mama one of them people. Her birthday, my mama's birthday was yesterday, and today is my niece's August Ray birthday. So happy birthday to y'all, happy belated. Even though I told my mama happy birthday yesterday. But my mama one of them people, she get a camera, you go, she, you, like mama, stop taking pictures. Like, you being a pose with the first two, three. Right, man, 15 minutes later, you still see flashes. Like, man, mama, relax. So that was that. My mama had uh, I don't even, it was a Sony, I know that. And it was like, I don't know, we like it. My mama had this very terrible video that my brother Greg shot of me uh performing. I got that fire wearing his clothes by juvenile. It terrified. I think my mama got fired because of that video. Oh man. My mama lost her. Badass. Nah, we my mom, I forget where my mama was working at the time, but she uh we taped over the damn, you know, you had to buy individual tapes for the camera. You know what I'm saying? And you can't, like if you if something already on it and you record, you know how cameras work. But for those of you who don't know, who are not old enough to know how old school cameras work, is that the tapes are, if it was blank, you put it in, you film. If you don't take that tape out, it's gonna record, it ain't like you can go to a point and just keep recording, it's just gonna record over whatever's already on the tape. And my mama had a presentation, man. She had a presentation at her job with that tape, and it was us rapping, it was me and all my brothers on the South Side rapping juvenile. Oh man. Y'all bad as a motherfucker, man. You got mom fired. My mama got fired over that tape. So once again, my my my our apology. It was Greg's fault, but that's beside the point. Anywho, so back to the hip hop, man. You got your camera, right? What made you, what, like you, I know you said you was recording everything around, you know, just where you was at, but what made you focus specifically on hip hop? Was it the DVDs from New York? Was it?

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Like, I was like I said, I was I was in a management at that time.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

So like um just as I don't mean to cut you off. Go ahead. But I want to stay on that right quick. You say man, you was management. I know Kenny Knox is one. Who all did you like was you did you manage?

SPEAKER_01 28:46

I'm really just gonna say I managed Kenny Knox, but uh, true, and you know what I'm saying? Oh, that's that's been my family forever, so you know I mean, but we just really got with each other on the business. But at the time, you had uh you had Kenny, who is a name that I could probably really throw out there, but also the group gang band, he had a group, which was uh Freaky Jason, you had Buck Baby, you had Ro Fetty, and you had Pop Stang, you know what I mean? So it was a it was a group. At the end of the day, when I met Kenny and them, they was putting, they thought they was like, they were selling a the CDRs, so them the ones that you can burn. Them is not the real replicated ones, you know what I'm saying? Those are ones that you can kind of like do at home. Yeah. But then the replicated ones, they cost more. Those is the albums that you're gonna go and and best buy and shit like that and get at the time that people were selling CDs. Um I just put together a marketing plan and and felt like uh he needed replicated CDs, he needed a cover, you know, he needed the whole shebang. And I put that whole play together. He needed posters, you know what I'm saying? You needed, you needed the the internet was bubbling, but it wasn't bubbling like that. I'd imagine around that time. No, it wasn't bubbling like that. Like my space is like like right after that. You know what I'm saying? Like, like right after the the rollout that I'm talking about. So yeah, just other people that I managed was just them, you know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, we was hustling good on Maple and uh uh a friend of mine, that's his brother, Kenny's cousin. So I was like, you know, me, I feel like I always had brains. I'm like, man, listen, we could take this shit to the next level. And that's really how I got down with them. Your initial question was What made you focus uh on hip hop?

SPEAKER_00 30:36

Yo, on hip hop as far as I'm gonna be like, Yeah, that really was it.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

Like I was all in it. And like I told you before, I was always a nigga had all the double XLs, all the source magazines, all the Fed magazines, Ozones. Like I was that, like I had this shit like I wish I would have kept that shit. Like, to be honest, look. I wish I would have kept all of that shit, because I used to be moving that shit like I move or something. I'm like, man, I ain't man, who the fuck wanna move a whole thing full of magazines? You know how heavy that shit get. So like over the years, I just end up just getting rid of the shit, you know what I mean? Or throwing it away or doing all types of shit. But I was like always heavily engulfed in the hip-hop culture, bro. So it was only gonna, it wasn't gonna be jazz, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't gonna be, I wasn't trying to be the new evening world, the digital evening world. Which I wish I would have, because goddamn it real L SEL is the voice of the people. Lizard heard Fox News is jealous of them people. They get straight to the people, man. So at the end of the day, I wish I kind of would could have been on some the brink of that as well, but it it always been hip hop or nothing with me, and I always been heavily, heavily, heavily East Coast based. Like, I just had a thing for for New York and shit like that. So that's really what it was.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

So what was some of the first I know we talked about the uh fuck Nelly Day thing, but what was some of the like first content when you officially was like, hey, I I I see the vision, man. I'm finna have my own DVD, man. Like, what was some of the first stuff you started shooting for your DVD? Like, do you remember what was on like?

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Hey bro, that fuck Nelly day is like That's before the DVD. Yeah, I know, yeah. I figured that's it. So that's really like Bro, soon as I jumped in the game, I went viral. So that's what That's what made it a hell of a story. Man, listen, bro. I didn't have a struggle, none of that shit. I filmed I I I directed a video with Kenny and Freaky Jason. It's it's like the first video that I dropped on my channel, if I'm not mistaken. And then it went like straight into the Fuck Nelly Day shit. And I went viral, bro. I was on every digital website that there was at the time around hip hop for that day. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, I started out great. It was it was easy breezy. From there, I had built my fan base. I had built, you know what I'm saying? This we was on MySpace at the time.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

So people knew who I was, you know what I'm saying? So the video, the DVD rollout, because it wasn't just all digital at that time then. You know what I'm saying? It was the digital shit was early. The DVD shit, the physical shit still was going on. CDs DVDs. CDs DVDs, that shit was still popping. So I'm like, man, fuck that. I'm finna put together a DVD and on a DVD, man. I ain't gonna lie, I had. I had Mark Wade, rest in peace. Uh there's a nigga from my hood who had hands. I'm talking about real live hands. And he always been able to rap, but he got high. Crack got him. So, but he would never take the uh, you know, he always had the opportunity to spit some balls. So I got him on a DVD. I had uh Averb on a DVD. I had Young True on the DVD. I had um Arch Rivals, Clickity Clank, Keywine on there. I had Legion, Legion on Pop Pop Hooray right now. The popcorn, the pop, the gourmet popcorn spot.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Oh, that's the dude on the Yeah, he was a rapper back in the day. He was a rapper back in the day.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

He was on the DVD. Man, shit, man. I had I had Kid Trill on the DVD. Man, I had endless artists. Because these was connections that I was just making, like natural connections. I had Athlete, Playboy, uh, on the production end. I had Spotlight. Um, my cousin Mookie, man, rest in peace. He was the creator of 4-9 records. He ended up managing Spotlight at the time. So I pulled up to his print shop right out there where uh Bliss and shit at right now. I pulled up to his print shop, uh, shot a video for Spotlight. I mean, it was endless amounts of individuals, and to put the icing on the cake, I called Jim Jones at Blackman's Plaza when balling was going on. And uh I filmed that whole concert and I slapped that on it. You I already told you I got the marketing on point, slapped the cover on that motherfucker, got a whole bunch of DVDs replicated. It was over. It was over. I was in the streets with it. But how many DVDs did you drop? I say 2,000 at that time. 2,000 for sure.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

God.

SPEAKER_01 35:33

I had I was I was getting a thousand at a time, so and I had probably uh a double up run, so 2,000 DVDs. But like people was purchasing them, but then I was giving them to people too, though. You know what I'm saying? Like like my people, you know, some people show support, but then I just catch people who I know needed that or individuals who was on the album, you know, on the DVD, I would give it to them. You know what I mean? So I'd probably say half and half, you know, a thousand so a thousand, a thousand giving away. How much would you letting them go for? Shit, at that time, it's probably about ten dollars. You know?

SPEAKER_00 36:10

So you start putting these DVDs out, right? And you go from the DVDs to the battles. How did you decide to start incorporating? Because I'd cause I know Smack used to have like Smack used to have what whatever shit just going on around New York on his DVDs, then the battles was at the end of the DVD. Mm-hmm. So how did you go, did you have that same kind of format?

SPEAKER_01 36:42

No, so so this is what I noticed with Smack. Smack shit was like It was a DVD, but it still was like an album. You know what I mean? It was like, I got Peter Guns, I got, I got BMF, I got, you know what I'm saying? It was just like track listing, like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That's kind of like the same thing with me. I had Young True, I had Averb, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, my outro instead of a battle at that time was the Jim Jones shit that I told you about. Typically with a smack DVD, the outro would be the battle. Yeah, the battle. You know what I'm saying? He would always end the DVD with the battle. Um, but yeah, even before I really got into the battling, as far as like filming and being a part of the shit, I was a huge battle rap fan, bro. Like, like me and like all my partners, we used to sit in the house and we used to watch this shit. Cause like I told you, I had, it wasn't just smack DVDs that had battles on them. It was other DVDs that had battles on them. And it didn't matter, we were all watch them. You know what I'm saying? So even before I got off into the battle rap shit in St. Louis, I had already, I'd been on that shit. Murder Moose, T-Rex, Nims, uh uh, uh, what's my nigga? Uh, X-Factor. X Factor. Just Young Mild at the time. You know what I mean? Like, and like I just told the story on um on um Brit shit. Ulyssing media, my bad. Ulyssing media. I it was even uh DVD to where two niggas battled and whoever won, they got to have sex with the individual, uh young lady. So, so the what? Yeah. Wait, that was a battle, that was a reward. Bro, this is this is a true fact, bro. I wish I could find this DVD, bro. I'm not gonna lie. That's what I'm saying. Like certain shit you just don't supposed to throw away. Yeah, that's a good thing. Two niggas battle, bro. That motherfucker turned from a hip hop DVD to a porno. And not bullshit, bro. This is a fact, bro. This is a fucking fact, bro. Hey, that's wild as hell. You just think you're dead. But you like, yeah, MC, MC Gusto with the wind, and all that me next thing you know, he ain't that motherfucked. Pong bang bang. Hey, that's insane, though. Bro, and listen, even if you go to go to you listen media, IG, bro, they put that clip of me saying the same shit up, and bro, it's like three or four niggas in the comments, like, bro, I definitely remember that. So this is this is all factual shit. That's crazy, man. All factual shit, dog.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

But um, so boom. So my bad, that dang, you all expect it. That threw me out. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

You kind of on the battle rap shit, man.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

I know, man, but I was just like, a motherfucker going from a nigga battling to to crack something, that's insane, dog. That's like, you ever seen the movie Grease? Uh these motherfuckers drag racing for the girl. Love Grease. Yeah, dawg. That's like, I'm thinking, yeah, that's what that's what popped in my mind. Anywho, back back on topic, man. So, you know what I'm saying? Do you know how many DVDs like like you made in total? Like, not like like to put out like just like Street Status DV1, two, big shit. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

I mean, okay, so I made Volume 1, I made Volume 2, Volume 2, man. Shout out to Shout out to Guccio, shout out to Phil. Bro, they introduced me. Them niggas saw something in me. Cause them niggas was like, they was promoting heavy at the time here, so they was bringing every artist. When the artists came here, they allowed me to film the artist, bro. Right. For my own shit. They don't got nothing to do with this. They just, they just know that I'm on my grind, and they gonna put me in position to make it happen. I can I can't repay them niggas when it comes to the You know how you do something small for somebody? Yeah. Or it really ain't nothing to you, but to them it's everything. It really was everything to me because uh, bro, I interviewed Jewell, Bun B, Franchise Boys. I I I got Future on there.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

I think I seen the clip. It was Cameron on one of them.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Cameron, can't that was my they ain't hooked me up with the Cameron. I got the Cameron on my own. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? But them niggas, uh, them niggas paid for me to go to Atlanta with them. You know what I'm saying? Uh I think it was uh BET, the first uh hip-hop awards for BET. Bro, I was at the Dungeon Family studio. So I got, I think Rico Wade, rest in peace. He on, man, I had everybody on this second DVD, bro. And I guess what I did? I still put my St. Louis niggas in there. Absolutely. I didn't I because I know even then it was gonna pop that much more. I had Jeezy on there. I had Blood Raw on there. Um, man, it was just an action pack CD. That was my I'm DVD. That was my second one. And then my third one, I did a battle rap DVD to where I put all of the, like I said, at the time, even though we on the internet, the DVDs are still moving. They still move, and so I made a uh World War DVD, and uh I put a bunch of battles on and I saw putting them in the street because a lot of niggas weren't even on the internet at the time. You know what I mean? So So I made three D DVDs in total. Okay, so do you man, do you still got I only got one DVD, and I put I I got the World War DV uh DVD of course because them just the battles, because I still got all of them. I got my first DVD, but that middle fucking DVD, bro. Man, nigga. Man, I got the best interview with Bun B, bro, probably out her right now.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

I was about to say, in the land of content, man, especially in today's age, like everybody be wanting to see how shit was. That shit would have been killed today.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

Listen, I always tell you if anybody watching this, you got that DVD, man, Street Status Volume 2. It got Jewel's on one side, you flip it over, it got Bun B on the other side. The graphic work was impeccable. Shout out Philly Customs at the time. Um, if you got that, man, I got $100 for you for sure, man. So just let me know. I'll be I'll be putting that on my Facebook page a lot. I be having niggas digging through the archives trying to find that motherfucker. For real.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

Indeed, so you say you put out three DVDs, the third one being uh Street Status World War DVD. Yeah. How did World War come about?

SPEAKER_01 43:35

World War came about, that's verb idea. I never said nothing about World War. You know what I mean? Meaning like I never came up with the idea of World War. Um I put verb on my DVD. Okay. At this time he had Ba battle spotlight, I think. And um shout out to June 5th, which is Brooke Holiday. Tiffany Fox and DT. Brooke doing her thing. Salute to Tiffany Fox. Rook doing her thing with 300. I think she liked the vice president or president of AR 300. Tiffany Fox still doing her thing, movies and all that. And then DT has a podcast called Chattin Choo. I definitely want to shout her out. But at that time they had a relationship with Brad Young and Verb. And they was like, man, you need to put Verb on the DVD. And that's how Verb got on my DVD. And uh he was on a talking and popping so much shit that a lot of the niggas from like Wellston, Pagedale, Pine Lawn, they was like, man, fuck this nigga Verb. You know what I'm saying? It made, it made, listen, I promise you, bro, it made instant. This is on my space, bro. So you got the DVDs in the streets, and then you got the you got the clips that I might be able to put on my space and shit like that. And niggas was like right at Verb neck, and that nigga instantly, he like, I, you know what, oh, I got this idea and I want to bring you in as the as uh on the production in. Plus, I already had the YouTube. Right. Like I told you, I went viral day one. So I already had the YouTube, I had the subs, I already had the audience for the shit.

SPEAKER_00 45:16

Right.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

And that's how me and him hooked up. The very first event, I think it was like Il vs. G Soldier and some others. I can't I can't quite remember. Classic battle. I vs G Soldier. Yeah, when he said, would you fuck that nigga? I wasn't touching. Touch that nigga.

SPEAKER_00 45:32

Whoo Lord. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Listen, but that that first event though, I was like, oh no, we got some, we got something going here. You know what I mean? And uh at that time, Street Report Marcos, he had the relationship with Coffee, which was African Palace. I had the re I had the whole production shit and the YouTube and then Verb was putting MCs together. But at the event at the event, uh you know, he used to be coming to me, always asking me, who'd I who would he think I should, you know, should put against each other. You know what I'm saying? We was having them kind me and him was quite quite close at the time when it came to like business. We was quite close, so we would talk shit probably daily. But at that time, man, I was going home, man. You don't even understand the workflow to make that shit happen at that time. Like, this is fucking mini DV time, you know what I'm saying? So I have to transfer the shit to a Mac and then that shit taking all day, man. That shit used to be like a two, three day process to even make, to even bring that shit to the digital world, dog. It ain't as easy as it is today. And um, so a nigga put in a lot of work, but when I tell you I have to leave those events and go straight home and get straight to the getting down on, you know, with the editing and shit like that. So nigga put in a lot of work with that, but that's how the that's how the whole World War street status shit happened. But I always let them know though, like World War is your baby, but street status, that's my child, and it got to be in them same talks, you know what I'm saying? So world war, street status, street status, world war, whatever you want to call it, that's just what it was at the time.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Indeed, indeed. So when did it not be World War no more and it was just solely street status?

SPEAKER_01 47:21

So mind you, for like some months we putting in a whole lot of work. You know what I'm saying? We putting in work and then like loaded luxe and all of them, they reached out. We went, we ended up going up there and doing the uh the Lions Den joint, and that's when Verb caught SB on the on the corner and shit. Right. And put some knots on his shit. But I must say, dog, I got nothing but respect for SB. And that nigga shit is just as memorable to me.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

No, SB shit was good, but he was beating shorts fired even as Guardian Age, he just wasn't beating it.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

But that nigga said some shit in that battle. Like, so uh people always just try to say like he got his ass whooped, and I just don't be understanding. I'm like, damn, are y'all really listening? But everybody got different ears. But when I caught that battle out there, that kind of took my shit to a new level.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

So the joint that's on undeniable TV, that's that's your footage? No, it was more than one camera out there. Okay, because I know, I know, I think even today, if you search up Avar vs. SB, it's like it got undeniable TV at the bottom.

SPEAKER_01 48:27

And I was like, No, I think like it's if I'm not mistaken, it's probably about if you dig on the internet, it's about three or four things on there. I got my own shit. That don't say undeniable TV. Undeniable TV.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

I just know I know for me, and that's I just know undeniable TV is how I seen the Avar vs T T. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

Dash Living. Shout out Dash. He definitely was, he was one of the cameras out there. So he was one of the channels out there. Um but it was like four channels out there that got the. If you if you look at the video, you see about four cameras just shit. I see everybody got the cameras up here. So, but um that battle kind of really catapulted my shit into because that wasn't a word war battle. You feel what I'm saying? That was like Averb versus that's some shit.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

You know what's crazy? I just Googled it, right? And they say Smack URL and Street Status Event, A verb versus SB, but it's not even on your channel.

SPEAKER_01 49:21

Yeah, I mean, you know, shout out to them. I let niggas, I let the bootleggers eat, man.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

I ain't one of them niggas, man. And then the one right under it. The one directly under it is your footage.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

That's why you gotta have SEO and shit. SEO is where your shit come up.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

And then the undeniable TV one is the one that your shit come up first.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Yeah. You know, so you can get all your clicks. I ain't studding out that. Let the bootleggers eat, man. I'm not, I'm not on that. But like once I got that battle, uh, I posted that battle, that shit went ridiculous, man. I think SEO was in a different type of.

SPEAKER_00 49:55

One would say that's one a lot of people would say like that's the ground zero for battle rap as we know it today. Cause you gotta think about it, bruh. Like, at least from my perspective. Like I said.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

Hey, I mean, that's a that's a that's an argument, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 50:11

The way I see it is this, right? I know all the battles I saw before I saw that battle was just all New York niggas, like, you know what I'm saying, against each other. Then I saw that. I'm like, one, I don't know who Verb is. Let's say he's from the city. And I see it, and it's like it's like after that you started seeing different cities against each other. Obviously, New York versus St. Louis, uh Detroit versus Chicago, uh, shit like that. So that's that. I do have a question for you.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

I ain't even really asked. I ain't answering I ain't asked your question for real. I just I just don't want to leave nothing out or whatever. And uh when we came back home, that nigga Verb had blue. You know what I'm saying? Like he was on his shit, like he wasn't the same Averb. Because you gotta understand, Averb was really just hosting the battles. We all know that he can rap, like we used to be throwing ciphers and shit in between the battles and shit. He used to always have some nice ass shit to uh spit or whatever, but he wasn't battling. The first nigga that he really battled was like young Mace, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's really was the show Load of Lux that he was capable of of, you know, getting in the ring and shit like that. And that's how we got the head ice battle that never went down or whatnot. But when we came back home, he was on some other shit. He didn't wanna he didn't wanna do World War no more. He had already said he was having issues with niggas and and all type of shit, and he just felt like you got a no verb, you know what I'm saying? He just one of them niggas like, you got me fucked up, nigga, I'm doing this, you know what I'm saying, type shit for you. I did this for you. I I made you, I made you a star, type shit. He be on that type time. So he was getting into it with a lot of niggas and shit. And uh I I just think he ain't want to deal with that that bullshit no more. He was re he was on his own. And the opportunity came for Aver versus Hollow and uh Hitman versus uh Rich Dollars. Rich Dollars. There you go, sir. And them niggas need a plane rides in a hotel and shit. I always gonna keep some paper in the cut. And I was like, shit, I can make it happen. But this is a street status battle. And that's what it was. From that moment on, World War and and me and World War ties were several.

SPEAKER_00 52:40

Okay. Yeah. So you actually touched they on the close out on that answer, you actually touched on something else I was finna get into. I heard I've heard over the years through interviews, man. Uh I definitely finna get Remedy here, man, to get his perspective on that same incident. But uh in your particular, from your perspective, man, how exactly did you but I mean obviously you and Verb was doing business, how did you become a part of like being out there for the you know, the call album shit for the A-Verb SB situation? Like, the question I'm basically asking is this, man. When y'all got, you know what I'm saying? I was about to say a kite. I've been talking to my brother, he locked up. I've been talking to him too long. So when y'all got the memo, man, about Lux and all them trying to get y'all to come up to NY, man, for the battle, man. How exactly did like the planning and all of that go down? Like, hey, man, we going out here this day, playing tickets, all that. How did that go? Who all rolling? How did that.

SPEAKER_01 53:46

Averb had the connection with Lux. Okay. So he he talking back and forth with him. You know what I'm saying? I played for my own flight and all of that. The rest of them, the niggas that was booked. Verb partner went too, though. A friend of Verb's went too. So we probably like five or six D. As far as like the hotel room, we, you know, niggas had hotel rooms and that was r that was really it. But niggas didn't get paid for that. They only got a flight and a hotel room.

SPEAKER_00 54:17

I was just wondering, like, how did how did Muggs decide who uh from the crib was going?

SPEAKER_01 54:21

Them was like the top niggas at the time. Hitman was at Mineral Area College at the time, so he couldn't get, he couldn't go at the time. Yeah, I think he said he had a game or something. But yeah, something something was in the way of him being set up for that battle. I think it may have been basketball season or something like that. So he was he was in basketball season, but shit, young Il, Remy, Averb at the time.

SPEAKER_02 54:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think it was too many other niggas outside of them that was going crazy. I mean, Juice was going crazy, uh, G Soldier was going crazy. But shit, them was the top three guys, four guys at the time. So that's really how they got set up on the matches then. And Arsenal, Head Ice, Arsenal, Head Ice, and Goods. Those were the those were three of the main killer lines then at the same time. So it really was like a no-brainer as far as the matchups.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

Oh, okay, cool, cool, cool. Damn, I forgot the damn how did you just close out your last question? Talking about the uh Oh, there you go. So, this is the thing that got me like like hip to STL battle rap. Before this moment, I never knew STL battle rap, like there was battle rap in STL. We talking, this is 09. Mm-hmm. I already graduated. I'm up, I got my phone. I'm in, I'm sneaking to use my phone while I'm in uh MCT in California, man. And I'm just, I know shortly before I left, uh, my partner Reggie, man, salute to my nigga once again. Like, he, like, we watched battles, we had watched Fight Club and all that shit, but he ain't like became a way, he was a way bigger fan at the time than I was of battle rap. And I know the last battle he had showed me was Iron Solomon versus Math, right? Like, I would always go back and re-watch that battle. And then randomly I'm just on YouTube on my phone and I type in STL Battle Rap, and then I see Rich Dollars versus uh Versus Hitman Hollow, right? So, and then Aver versus Hollow. So, how did that event come about? Because man, I ain't gonna lie. If I there's one, that's that event is one of them things, looking at it, especially now as me as a fan of battle rap now. I look at that crowd and motherfuckers in this motherfucker, elbow to elbow and white leaders and shit. I'm like, right before they was, it was yanking in that bitch.

SPEAKER_01 56:52

Right before that, if you if you look at me, I'm not, I hired a cameraman for that. I mean, it's still my camera and shit, but somebody else filmed, I'm actually on the footage. Yeah, I know you're on the footage. Yeah. I have broke my ankle and shit at the time, so I'm in there on crutches and shit. But when I tell you that shit was a zoo, that shit was a zoo. And I think that's another way that it kind of got me hooked on the battle business because my overhead was low. You know what I'm saying? My overhead was low to and everybody in there was $20 or better. So, you know what I'm saying? It's over, man, it's a hundred, fifty, two hundred. It got, it damn near got shut down. It was too many people. African palace just couldn't hold it. So nigga, you had everybody on the outside. If I had a bigger venue at that time, dog, a nigga probably could have made about $15,000 or some shit like that. But the money that I did make was cool. But I think at that very moment a light bulb went on in my head, like a nigga just a natural-born hustler. So I'm just thinking of ways that I can make a dollar. And then I ain't gotta worry about nobody being like over my, you know, police on my back and shit, or worry about risking my freedom and shit like that. So I was like, oh no, I'm finna start this shit here. Oh, it's up. You know what I'm saying? And um, I never felt like that the entire time we was doing that until that actual day. Which I used to make money from the battles though, you know what I'm saying? From for because I was a a third of it, you know what I mean? Didn't have to risk nothing, but I was making a third of the the the money that was made up the deal. And so, yeah, that battle just came about. Like I said, nobody really had the paper to fund it, and I had the paper to fund it. And shit, I picked up Hitman, I mean I picked up Hollow and Rich Dollars from the airport, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

So, did you set those matchups up or did Verge set those up?

SPEAKER_01 58:51

Verge set those up. So that two-round shit you had to take on the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_00 58:54

Yeah, because I was about to ask that next. How did it become a two-round battle?

SPEAKER_01 58:57

I have no idea, maybe it was short notice or what, but I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

Holler, uh, nah, yeah, holler, rich dollars, I ain't gonna lie, that battle needed a third round. I don't care what nobody say. Hey, yeah, that battle was one-one. I don't look, Holler. Hey, look, I understand I fuck with you, my boy, but that battle was one-one to me. Then honestly, I think it's the same way for verb and hollow too. I know, I know people give verb the win, because you know what I'm saying. Hey, try that mad five for shit. Swing, I'm gonna weed a shot. Then these niggas gonna give you that same treatment Jesus got. Like, I know that was a room shaker. Still is to this day, but it's just like I ain't like Hollow was going crazy. Like, that's what made me a fan of Hollow. You know what I'm saying? He was like, I go off about five minutes, come back in the funeral harm with a hat and a shirt that says, I did it.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

Like Yeah, like Hollow the Don is like rain, man. I mean, he was all like, like you don't gotta understand, you gotta understand, like, I picked him up from the airport and uh I'm taking him like through the hood and shit. So all of that little parts that he saying about St. Louis and shit, he just getting that from like general conversation. You know what I'm saying? He said the West Side or Page Dale. People think that he said of Page Dale, but he said the West Side or Page Dale. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Who's gonna take me to the West Side of Page Dale? Shit like that. He said some shit about Young True or Tailor Maid, or he said some shit like that. You know what I'm saying? So them just like rain man moments, because this the day that I picked him up is the same day that the battle went down. Yeah, so once I drop him off a hotel, he going back and he constructing all of this shit. Pick him back up, bring him to the venue, he spitting this shit. Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. That nigga sick. That nigga sick, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:44

Yeah, man. What's that shit? What Ridge Dollars say, like, the hottest nigga I seen from St. Louis is Murphy Lee. And even he ain't fucking with me. I ain't gonna lie, I took offense to that nigga. I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:54

Yeah, he said you can tell by the way I walk from right, probably good too because I ain't won no world. Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah, Ridge like another, another, like I just I like everybody's creativity, man, and and and they different characteristics and shit like that. People always try to talk shit about Rich Dollars, but.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:15

Nah, Rich Dollars isn't my top five. Man, Ridge was nothing. I don't give a fuck. Rich dollars was a fucking animal. Yeah, man. Shit straight up. Was Murph in the building though? Because in the camera, he was like looking off to the side when he was saying this.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

Was Murph there? That's a good fucking question, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:30

I'm getting older and shit, and I just Yeah, because in the footage, he literally, he wasn't looking at Holland. He said it was a little bit. He literally yelled it in one direction. After he said it, and even he not fucking with me, he went back to Holland.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

Rapping the hollow. I cannot remember, but he probably was in the building, bro. Yeah. That's how packed it was, dog.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:49

Yeah, dah. That's crazy, man. So as somebody who's been in battle rap and around it since ground zero, man, what would you say? When would you say was like the best era of hip hop? You know what I'm saying? You got the 2000s, you got the 2010s, when you know the shit kind of like blew up, and we got like URL came out in like 09. So, yeah, URL came out in like 09, then you got the 2010s, and now we in the 2020s, where it's you know what I'm saying, battle rap. Yeah, battle rap. I'm talking about battle rap across the board, yeah, the culture.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:26

When would you say when would I say the best times was? The best times was an exception, the inception of it, uh with Averb and the SB, you know what I mean, uh Hollow versus Averb, Midwest, Midwest Massacre, that was that was the best time because I think without those events kind of like setting the table, it wouldn't be. Those other events wouldn't even happen. Especially from a St. Louis perspective. You know what I'm saying? We wouldn't have those. So that was the the day that we made our bones, you know what I'm saying? We dropping our nuts, goddamn me, all over the whole. Just let motherfuckers know that St. Louis is not down, down baby and nursery rhymes and shit like that type of. We got real deal MCs, real deal lyricist out here. So that time is the best time to me. That shit made me feel like like when the Rams won a bowl and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? It just made a nigga like feel very, very good and very, I took pride in the the the ground breaking moments and shit that we had. So that's the best time for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:45

You know what I'm saying? For those that reason only, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:48

Yeah, man. It's like, I'm actually glad you said that too. Cause I'ma be real, man. Uh as somebody who done traveled this this this map of the US more than my first her times. Nothing uh I'm a avid, like, East Coast hip hop guy. Avidly. Right? But I will admit, some of the most annoying shit ever is to hear a room full of East Coast niggas talking, bruh. Especially about like hip-hop and shit, man. A moment I took pride in, battle rap-wise, it even hit harder after I like met you and kind of knew kind of the backstory of it. Hitman Holler versus Cortez, bruh. When I heard, man, hey, and you can just see how the room, like, you can see how the room reacting to Holler being in her. They letting like Cortez can rap. Salute to Cortez. But like, like I seen the second they said, hit man holler from St. Louis, and it was nobody else saying shit, but it was it was it was you, well, it was you, obviously Holler.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:59

That's that's that clip that I just put out. That's the same night. Uh that that retro clip that I had put out. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, that's that same night. So it was me, juice, verb, ill, holler.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:11

Yeah, he was up there throwing up the week throwing up the west side on stage and shit. Like, I was just like, Yeah, bruh, like, it's just like motherfuckers really just thought, like, the Midwest was like it's crazy that in the grand scheme of things, that wasn't that long ago. But Muz really in 09 to 2010 really thought St. Louis was just cows and fucking farmland.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:35

Like, nah, it's like y'all, like this kind of like Muds who New York are just very brash and shit like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:43

Hearing about the New York niggas talk, bro. East Coast niggas in general.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:46

Of hip hop and shit, them niggas feel like they own that shit, and for somebody else to be doing it, it's like shit or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

I fuck with the Joe Button podcast, but it's more than a few motherfucking clips. I done had to turn off just listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:05

No, I understand what you're saying for real.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:08

Yeah, man. So ask this. What's your proudest moment? Your specific proudest moment from STL in battle rap. Oh shit, that's a few of them. I figured it was. That's why I asked that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:26

That's why I said the specific one. It would be a few of them. Um I probably just started uh when when Hitman fucked Arsenal up, even though I wasn't there. I was proud of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

I actually wanted to fly from Cali to New York for that one, but I couldn't need to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:40

Once I saw that, I felt like he it was like Arsenal asked for that shit. You know what I'm saying? Because he was just in a stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:49

You around, when I'm around, do not move. Don't crack a smile. I'm not your pal, we not cool. You goonfishers ain't allowed in the crock pool. And if they jump in, best believe they crock. Nigga, what? Oh my God. Hey, man. Salute to Holler for that one, dog. I'ma say A verb versus uh S B for sure. Okay, Holler Arsenal Verb S B.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:18

I ain't gonna lie though, probably the most it's when that nigga B Magic and QP. That nigga, I thought QP came out the gate, man, just dropping balls magics, man. So so it was just like for magic to even come back and make it a. I would like I told you in an on another pod, I think I clipped that up as well. I was like, damn, I dana had a turn in my eye. Like, damn, this nigga, this nigga's really good. You know what I'm saying? This crypt nigga is really nice, man. But uh hey, you know, for real, man. Um so that was that was a few, that was a pro. Oh. Kid Slay MVP. Bro. You don't understand that, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:07

That shit was not. Granted, it was on caffeine, rest in peace to caffeine. Jesus Christ, if that was a motherfucking YouTube drop, we talking a million, bro. I don't care what nobody says, dog. That's a million view battle.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:19

Kid Slay versus MVP because just he was like the super duper underdog the entire fucking tournament, and then they get the the person that they said was gonna be that nigga, and he knocked him in a judge battle. It's absolutely crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:36

That actually paid paid plays into the shit I was talking about, like just East Coast niggas and they disrespect. Uh it was a lot of disrespect I peeped about the MVP shit. One, y'all had the nigga ranked 15. It was 16 niggas. Y'all had them close to the bottom. Then, this pissed me off every time they put his name up there. Actually, now that I think about it, anytime they put any St. Louis nigga name up there, it said St. Louis, Michigan. S T St. Louis M. I. Not M. O. They been doing that shit since motherfucking Eel, Verb, hot, that shit was always pissing me off. Then because they think Missouri. Yeah, dah, that like it's like y'all niggas don't even, y'all niggas don't even bother to motherfucking to fact-check the shit. Then sat up here. He got through, he got through Anderson Burris. He I didn't even get to see the Misky Biscuit battle. I think that'll be. So them two different things. Yeah, I know. The tournament and then the whatchamacallit.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:44

Yep, yep, those two different things. So everything was judged.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:50

I feel like, nah, no bullshit. I feel like they they ganked. I don't care what nobody says. I feel like URL ganked MVP out of 135,000. I don't give a fuck what a soul got to say on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:01

Hey, I got the they fucked up, I forgot how much money it was, but I feel like they definitely ganked them out of that paper.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:07

How I come up with the 135 number, it was the 10K for the crucible shit. It was they didn't give them a chance to be a part of the 100k tournament that they did following that, and then the 25k from the uh actual shit with the real name Grandness to it. Summer Madness. Yeah, the summer madness shit. It's like, it's like the MVP lived up to that name. He was the MVP of that crucible class. The MV. Bruh first things first, he got through Truth Watson, which wasn't hard to do, but Truth Watson, they thought so low of MVP, MVP rapping his heart out, but Truth Watson up here laying an egg, so they just like don't care about this. What's my dude who over checked? J Black. J Black, typical. Any battle rapper could do this. I'm like, do y'all not heard how cold this nigga? It took that nigga. It took, well, it was true foe after Kid Slade, wasn't it? Yeah. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, uh. Yeah, I think it was foe after Kid Slade.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:13

Yeah. It's like, bruh, y'all. Yeah, but four people in it. Four people that he battled. Yeah, man. Watson, true foe, Slade real name Brandon. Real name Brandy.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:23

And it's like, bruh, y'all did all these niggas, man. Like, they showed that nigga no respect the whole term in the sleigh battle. Like, I ain't gonna lie, I was watching that shit, bruh. I ain't gonna lie. You say you, I dropped a turt. I don't give a man, what? I I boy, I was at the crib, nigga, beat my chest. Nigga, like, nigga, that's how the fuck you do it. On everything. Hey, bro. Salute to that nigga MVP, bro. Hey, that my bad. That was your question, but I ain't gonna lie, I got a little passionate on that one. They did, they was doing my nigga MVP filthy, bro. I don't care what nobody say, man. But uh, you said it was verb SB is one of your proudest moments. Hitman Hitman Arsenal, Magic Clean, Magic Clean, and MVP MVP versus Kid Slay. Yes, sir. Cool. What's your what do you think is the best moment you ever picked up on a street status camera?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:24

I got I got my personal favorite, but it's hard to say. It's just it's that's why you send people the questions in advance right there. That's exactly why. That's uh that's exactly why.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:47

All due respect, even if I sent you that question, I still don't think you'd have an answer right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:51

No, I I don't have a I would have an answer right now because I'd been able to come up with it and choose some shit over a day. But man, it been so much shit on there, bro. Exactly. You got over quite as you got over 20 years of content. Man, it's just so much shit on there, man. Oh. I I probably would still have to go with if I just just forsake the SB verb, because like without that, it don't really even set the standard for the rest of that shit going on. So I'm trying to think of something before the SB verb that I can maybe kind of like put it on there and you know, ill versus holler, maybe. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. But like um other than that, but shit, post that, post SB versus verb is so much shit on there, man. I man I think it's so much guns versus Trey Pounds. Um Trade Pounds versus SK. Oh, we talked about that other one. Uh Cash, cash flow. Uh no, can't cash flow. Cash Ola, hitman, man. Cash Ola Hitman. It's just these moments. These moments fucking super memorable, man. Like it's I can go on and on about that though. I ain't gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:11

Yeah, man. Uh my personal favorite, I I watch this battle all the time. I don't care what nobody's saying, just knowing how big the nigga got and what he is to this day, SBB Magic, to me, is hands down one of the greatest battles. It's my all-time favorite battle. SB. I mean SK versus B Magic. My bad. My bad, my bad SK. Crucial, nigga. Oh no. But nigga, I don't.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:39

Get your shoes and has where I get my bruise. Man, that battle got so many.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:44

Man, what? These niggas go on crew retreats through the weeks, secluded every year in a brand new nude. SK is a funny ass nigga, dawg. But I but like literally every trademark we know be magic for, all happened in that battle. You must have slipped, fell, and bumped your motherfucking head. Yeah. All that shit, bro, is nigga. The greatest shit, nigga. You want the Mac? I get the Mac. I bring that Macy out. You fucking with the best. Oh, brother laughing taffy out. 12 rounds boxed in when I pull that thacky out. Running?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:18

Yes. Running like Macky. Bayweather when I pull that packy out. You ain't man, that right there. I ain't even. Niggas wasn't rapping like that before the Mac. Niggas was not rapping like everything that hit that. Like I watched that clip over and over. That clip that he just said right now, I can watch that motherfucker over and over.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:38

The crowd, everything, every element of it hit that. That specific, that battle, I feel the my bad. That battle, I feel the same way as I did when I watched it the very first time. That's why I'm like, that's easily the great, like, the greatest battle of all time to me, bro. Granted, he was up there kicking SK ass, bruh. It's like SK just like, I'm not finna beat him lyrically, but I'm definitely finna make this motherfucker member.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:11

I think that wasn't SK first battle. I think he went out of town and had a battle in Chicago. I could be wrong before he had that battle her locally, but I think that B Magic was a battle rapper. And I think that SK, he hadn't found his strategy. He didn't, yeah, he didn't find his way yet. So like that first round, you it like two minutes into it, you like.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:35

But once that nigga started out rough, Bruh got into it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:38

It was like that for him. Yeah, duh. That man.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:42

I'm supposed to believe you cruising legs and moving packs when it looked like you cop your shoes and hats. Where I get my bruise and yak. Nigga, how cool is that, man? I don't hey bruh. Salute to that nigga SK, man. No real shit. Oh. We've been we've been interviewing for a little minute, man. I'll say I'm uh I'm gonna get you out on these last couple questions. So as I'm I always say, man, you obviously you've been heard from the beginning, man. Don't answer this if you don't want to. You know what I'm saying? I'm not one to ask questions for it's solely because I want to know, and I'd be feeling like if I want to know, it's other people want to know. But a lot of the I call them the I call them the uh the starting five and the six, man, which is verb, which is verb, holler, ill, remedy, juice, G Soldier. Right? They was the you know what I'm saying, whatever, right? Do you have solid relationships with a lot of these people? Because like a lot of their first moments happened on your camera, you know what I'm saying? Or you was in some way, shape, form involved with it, man. You know what I'm saying? What is your relationship a lot like with a lot of these guys today?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:03

Okay, so me and Verb, uh, just respectfully, I don't really know what type time Verb on right now. Not to say that I have a bad relationship with them. I just don't have no relationship with them, you know what I'm saying? Because I just don't, it's like you can be cool with a nigga like that, he might turn on you tomorrow. I just don't even wanna You know what I'm saying? Plus he said a few things, but it ain't nothing crazy that he said, but it's like nigga, what the fuck type time you on? Anyway. Um, Hitman definitely got a relationship with Hitman. Um, you know, we just text, call, he might call me up or some shit like that. Juice, that's my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Um, Remy D got a cool relationship with Remy D. It's nothing crazy. He a barber, I don't let him cut my hair or not. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm just saying, like, what you were like. You know what I'm saying? I don't, you know, I I got my barber, but when I see Remy, it's nothing but love. Uh Young Il. I see EL nowhere, bro. I don't I don't have no relationship with Eel. I don't see I I can say for the 2019-2020 run, I did have a nice uh business relationship with them because I had them versus John John, then I had followed that up versus Rosenberg Raw, you know what I mean, during the pandemic. So that was the last time I had any type of relationship with them. That was a business relationship. I don't see the man anywhere. We don't keep in communication or none of that. But at this is not bad things. Niggas just be growing. Yeah, motherfuckers got life, yeah, yeah. Family, all type of shit. Niggas got niggas got work. For some reason, a lot of battle rappers still don't understand that they gonna have to get out here and get them a fucking career. You know what I'm saying? Battle rap is probably not going to do it for them. On uh you're not gonna be able to s to sustain a healthy lifestyle fucking around with battle rap because it's too up and down and shit like that. So, you know, niggas got jobs, careers. Niggas gotta put food on the table. So But yeah, I got a relationship pretty much somewhat with all of those guys. But either I got a relationship with you in some type of way or I don't. You know what I'm saying? Like it was either definitely no ill will towards anybody. I don't I don't even got nothing. Nah, nigga could do something and I'd be like, man, that was some whole shit. You know what I'm saying? But I don't got no relationship with a couple of them and other people. I see them, it be A-O-K.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:37

Cool, man. Um You ain't say nothing about the you don't got no questions about the new niggas or the shit that's going on. I'm asking. Get you some clips, man. Why I'm on this motherfucker, man. Get you some clips. I wasn't fucking. Get you some shit that's gonna push this shit, you're gonna. First things first, I wasn't done yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:53

But because I, you know what I'm saying? That's why I asked the relationship thing to talk about the newer guys, man. Okay. You know what I'm saying? You just told me the other day for the 314. Hey, man, I got this, man. I know what I'm doing. Oh, I did. Let me let me work, man. So we spoke on, you know, the past, and you've been around for the present. We know you took your hiatus and all that, and you can't.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:19

You always say that, but I don't I don't I I'm gonna have to go check my content just to see you said 2016, but I'm gonna have to go check my content.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:27

My my shit might be a bit skewed, but I know it was the night that Reggie, I know it was the night Reggie battled does it. Rest in peace that does it. It was it was the night he it was the night he battled him that that incident happened. So I want to say that was 2016, 2017.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:41

But I'm trying to think of just a hiatus.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:43

When I say a hiatus, you wasn't you a hiatus. You weren't throwing events. How long is that? I'ma be real. I came into the middle of it because I remember somebody had said something at a Street Report event. I think it might have been Champ, if I'm not mistaken. Like, it's like when I first came around Battle Rap, Street Report, it was Street Report was the only game in town moving, and if niggas wanted to battle out of town, they was going up to KC to go battle for the Kinecks. Salute to A-Wood, salute to all the cats at the Kinects. They was, yeah, that's where what they was going on at the time. And I remember, I remember the nigga Champ, if I'm not mistaken, because him and Cloud was into it for whatever the fuck reason, I don't know. But he was saying something about like street status, something. And Marcos, him and Marcos had a little dust up and shit about like whatever, whatever, and then they carried on with the event. But you just wasn't throwing events, and that's why I said it early in the interview when motherfuckers at an event and then it was like whisper whisper, like man, that nigga overheard, da da da da da da da, this, that, and the third. So that's just from my recollection. I didn't know what was going on. So I don't know how long you was out of the game at that time. I know you had came back when motherfuckers had uh the uh custody battle of the uh B Mac versus Reggie Cush battle, because that caused, I was in the middle of all of that, and that caused a lot of because that was the night Trey Pounds and B Magic battled. So, but that was what, 2019? 18, 19? Mm-mm. Hey, I'm I'm I feel like my numbers might be off.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:20

They way, them way off.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:21

Yeah, way off.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:22

That's why I'm really trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:23

Like I said, I'm gonna be real. My years is these events happen, but my years is off. Like I said, I don't know how long you wasn't throwing battles at that time.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:30

I just know I just know that you always say when I took the hiatus or whatever, and I'm just trying to figure out like when did I Yeah, that's that's all I'm trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:38

I just know you came back with the magic Trey Pounds battle. You know what I'm saying? So that's that. But on to the on to the new wave, man. What are your thoughts on the new era guys? You know what I'm saying? Verb done ascended to legendary status. Same with Holler. Eel, even though he's not as active, same with him. Magic, same thing. G Soldier.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:09

Are they STL legends or battle rap legends?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:12

Every name I just said are Eel, battle rap legend. Magic. First ballot, Hall of Fame, battle rap legend. Holla, verb, battle rap legend.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:24

I'm just trying. I'm just trying to.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:25

Yeah, like not just, nah, they are battle rap legends. You know what I'm saying? I know they talking the bullshit about, I guess, danger zone. I guess, I guess the nigga.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:34

No, I mean, I wasn't really speaking for it.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:36

I just want clarification or like No, no, they're battle rap legends, like across the entire culture, not just STL. But they all went on to go to bigger, better, and greater heights. And now, you know what I'm saying? Then it was just the talent that was here. You know what I'm saying? The rise of KD, the rise of MVP, uh, you know what I'm saying? Then you had the youngest shooters at the time, Danny Boy, the Craigs, uh, you got niggas who was back a part of that second wave, W Doug, Trey Pounds, all them guys. Like, what are your thoughts on you know what I'm saying? On these guys?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:16

What would you mean? Like, what are my thoughts on them?

SPEAKER_00 1:25:18

Like, when you came back booking events on the regular, you know what I'm saying? Who were some people you were impressed with?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:26

No, yeah. I wasn't impressed with anyone. Let's get that on out the way. Um JB is the reason. He he told me that I should fuck with Bochu. He told me that I should fuck with Reggie Cush. He told me that I should fuck with uh B Mac. Those were three of the guys that he told me that I should fuck with uh in the battle rap ring. I didn't I probably been to a street report battle and saw maybe B Mac. I probably saw saw Boe as well. And uh but it's more like JB that's my partner, you know what I'm saying? Salute to my nigga Will Drive. He was like, No. Let me take that back. He like, man, they dying, they dying to come on the street status stage. That's what he was saying, and I was like, Well shit, on the strength of you, let's just make it happen. You know what I'm saying? At that time. Yeah. Um and they all proved, they all proved to be who they were, you know, at that first event. They all proved who they who J B thought they were. You know what I'm saying? So and I had a shit and still got a long relationship with uh B Mac. Still got a relationship with Reggie Cush, still got a relationship with Bo Shoe, even though he say he retired or whatnot. But uh yeah, so it wasn't really what I think about them, it was just what JB asked me to do when I was put them on. You know what I'm saying? And that was it.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:51

So from that point, what motivated you to keep doing events posted?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:56

I like I said, I'm just going back to saying that the hiatus that you speak of, I'm gonna have to go through my my YouTube and just figure it out. It couldn't have been too long, you know what I'm saying? Like, and plus, this my shit. So it's not like I'm gonna allow Well, it was my shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna allow niggas to go. I'm gonna drive the car to STL battle rap culture. You know what I'm saying? That's how that's how I felt. So it was only right that shit, I came back. That fucking production, shit, that probably had cost me like 1500, 2000. You know what I'm saying? Our big stage. Come on now, you remember that nigga like niggas is battling on floors and shit, man. Niggas ain't having that type of shit going on. That was lovely for the B Max, lovely for the uh Reggie Kush. You know what I'm saying? That was lovely for them. So I wanted to drive the car to STL Battle Rap Culture, so that's what made. Made me continue. Cause shit, I came right back and did another event like B Magic K-Shine. I'm getting a little, you know, I can't remember the other guys who were on the card, but I know that was more like the hell. I think Botion with Tez was on that card, too. It was more like that. They bet a couple dollars too, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:18

Yeah, and the battle was a drop, because they said them niggas started rounds with ass. I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:22

Yeah, Buffy the Body ass, huh? You got more ass than Buffy the Body. But yeah, that was uh, so yeah, that's what made me continue. And plus this my shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? I was obligated to. I was obligated. Indeed.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:44

Who was well, you wasn't impressed with nobody back then. Who are you impressed with today? Now that you actually, you know, was putting your eyes. Back then he was off recommendations. Now you started.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:57

All niggas be like respect to all niggas, but they be cookie cutter battle rappers, bro. You know what I'm saying? I see what you're saying, but like I don't like nigga, the cash shows original, Trey Pound's original, hitman original, verb original, uh, eel original, magic original. You know what I'm saying? Like, you not getting that. Bro, nobody is driving the culture when it comes to anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:19

We got no original guys out today. Not as many. I give you, I give you that 100%. But you don't think we don't got no original people? I'm saying, like, to me, Mac is original.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:28

I don't give it like No, I'm saying, I of course, Mac is original. I don't wanna say that he's a cook, because he he's been battling forever, though. You feel what I'm saying? So he got his lane. He ain't no nigga that popped up.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:43

This nigga battled from Takeover to Yeah, when he was in a motherfucking glasses, a phase. He was in the living room, somebody's living room.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:53

But what I'm saying, like, so he was, I'm not even gonna put him in that because his sh he was from an original phase of battle rap. I ain't talking about no nigga that's coming down. Bro, and like, I like what niggas doing, but like niggas don't get they don't, they not really giving me originality, authentic vibes. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas just battle rapping, bro. They ain't they character not.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:23

I'm glad you said that word character, cuz salute to my nigga Chris Mosley, silly man. He has said something about like staging battles, like like WWE. Only thing I feel like should be like, yeah, niggas don't be having no type of personality and character, bruh. And then add insult to injury. I've been saying this and I'll say this now. A lot of muzz today, they treat like, you know how girls that wanna, you know what I'm saying? They wanna strip, but they don't want nobody to strip, so they go deep east side to the Hustler Club and all that shit where the white people is, or don't nobody see them. I feel like that's how a lot of these niggas treat battles, bruh. Like, they treat it as if you're ashamed that you do it. Like, bruh, you niggas don't create no type of personality, character. You barely promote it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:14

It's like just you just really like asking me, like, like, I got great relationships with a lot of the guys that he's talking about. Like, I got nothing but motivation for him. Them niggas asking me about moves they should make. I'm gonna give them advice. You know what I'm saying? Inspiration, the whole shit. But what I'm saying to me is I'm just not a fan of, man, I can't wait. I'm not, me being a fan, I'm not finna go, man, dude in the battle, man, I'm finna buy my ticket in advance. You know what I'm saying? That's kind of like what I mean. I see what you're saying. I'm not getting that from any of these niggas.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:50

I see what you say.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:51

You know what I mean some great individuals, you goddamn right, they good people. You know what I'm saying? Do they got respect for, oh, and what he's, of course. But they own murder did. Deo murder did. I wanted that nigga to battle bad. You know what I'm saying? Because him and demo first battle is so motherfucking. They put a lot of heat on niggas at that moment. You know what I'm saying? And I think right now in battle rap, you still have these older guys and shit in the culture because these new guys really not putting no heat on the yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:33

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:34

They ain't making them wanna uh I ain't gonna lie, another dude who did Merlow. Facts. Merlow. I ain't gonna, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, nigga, you know, Merlot off his fucking rocker. Absolutely. True indeed. But I must say, he came and put heat on niggas who feel comfortable in their position and shit like that. I'ma say him. Deo murder, Merlot. You know what I'm saying? But like I said, they only got one battle. Merlo got plenty of them. You know what I'm saying? So he kind of like, at the end of the day, he kind of like watered down his shit. You know what I'm saying? Like he, I think a lot of that has to do with him just not being dependable. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And not just to shit that's happening at street status, but shit all across the nation or whatever. So that's kind of like water this shit down. But I felt like he put. And another thing, he became more of a voice on spaces and ex and shit like that than the actual person that he was supposed to be in the ring. You know what I'm saying? And I think that can hurt a lot of people. But just back to what you were saying, just those are just a few people who I felt like I was fans of and I wanted to book. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, I'm gonna book this nigga versus yada yada yada.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:57

Yeah, what about J Day Ones?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:59

Oh, J-Day Ones definitely did his thing. He definitely did his thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:03

I had to shout him out because I I kind of take credit for discovering now.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:07

Yeah, Jay, but you know, he always used to hit me up and say he won the battle. I ain't saying that you I ain't taking credit. I don't I wasn't aware of this, y'all know. Yeah, I just know.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:16

I just remember, you know what I'm saying? I remember to drop the tender's card where you threw the gun in my lap and told niggas to reach out to me for bookings. Like, I'm like, I didn't ask for none of this, but I whatever. I'll give it a shot. Cool. And I remember, man, I remember I was kicking it with this uh this nigga metaphor, man. And he sat up here and uh, yeah, I was kicking it with the nigga metaphor, and the nigga winded up, just we just we talk about everything but battle rap, but this particular moment we was talking about battle rap, bruh, and I seen J Day One's in somebody's backyard, bruh, and I'm like, hey, this, like, how did that line go that he said? Like, he hella animated, he got hella energy, like his timing is just like on point. I know J-Day One's focusing on boxing now, and that's where he needs to focus at if his heart ain't into this, so I don't blame him. But man, yeah, J Day Ones was like one of them dogs.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:16

No, J Day One definitely had some, he definitely had some moments. He definitely had some moments for sure. Um Man, I can talk about good battle rappers. Some niggas that kind of came on the scene and did their thing, but I'm just speaking of niggas that kinda like put niggas in. Made niggas uncomfortable and they know what I mean, they position. I think the game needs more of that, especially here locally.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:42

Easily. Which actually is way into my next question. Uh what do you think the city need? Because battle rap as a whole is like like interest, views, money, all of that shit is down across the board. But the hell with everybody else. We're gonna focus here on the you know what I'm saying, we're gonna focus on our house, man. What do you feel is needed in the city, man, for funding?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:09

Funding. Definitely funding. Is that the only thing? No, structure. Structure. It it uh the league owners need to be consistent as far as marketing, getting new battle MCs, getting new fans and things like that. So that's the structure part of it. And the funding, it takes funding, it takes it takes money to to package this battle rap culture and and present it to the rest of the world, kind of like put it above, because basically right now anybody can probably just get a lounge and throw an event. You know what I mean? So it has to be something when I say funding, it has the top-notch production, top-notch marketing, you know what I'm saying? Put niggas' faces on billboards, bring a new aspect of the battle culture to this shit, not just getting a lounge, put niggas on the floor, got a film, man. No, the production needs to be tight with a runner show. No, the show started age.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:08

Now you talking my language. That's some shit I've been preaching to be here.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:12

You need to be here at this time, you know, because one thing about battle rap is. Niggas don't show up on time for shit. This nigga PK ain't gonna let me, he ain't gonna let me talk, yeah. My bad. He got either got passionate on me. But what I'm saying is like the the the niggas be the most just lazy individuals when it comes to. They always talking about the money that they need and shit, but then they don't want to follow the the protocol and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Like them niggas lazy, they come to shows late, throw your whole your whole event off the whole nine. So run a show, man. That needs to be in the contract. Hey, you need to be if the show starts at eight, be here at seven forty-five or some shit like that. Like, run of show is very important. So that just kind of falls under the structure uh label that I was talking about. The funding is the money. They need to be compensated, of course. The league owner needs to get his his bread, the DJ, the security guard, the venue, you know what I'm saying, the people who do the production, the whole nine. So that's where the funding comes from. Because right now, a nigga like me, when I was in the streets and was running across cash on a daily basis, it was easy for me to just dump all bread in the battle rap. You know what I'm saying? But now that a nigga dealing with 40 hours a week and, you know what I mean, like working hard, I be damned if I be a stupid nigga to go dump my bread off into something that's gonna be in the red, and then I got kids to feed, I got grandkids, all type of shit. I got bills to pay, you know what I'm saying? Health insurance, life insurance, you know what I mean? All type of shit like that that really, really matters. So that's just where I'm at with battle rap now. For real. It has to be funded properly.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:02

I agree wholeheartedly, man. Get you out of here on these last two, man. Actually last three. You went from cause you just touched on something that uh like you know what I'm saying? You went from being a street nigga and all this other shit, man. I forget the proper name of the award, but I was there for it. What was that? Was the uh the Fellowship Award? No, I think it was called.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:46

That's fucked up you was there, but I forget the name of it, man. Basically the award was given by Mission St. Louis. I Stan Power Award. That's the name of the street. Yeah, Stan Power Award. Excuse me, Mission St. Louis. Stand Power Award. I was uh just about just kind of like changing your life, man, and having the ability to stay in there and not not falter to like everyday shit, and that's really where I'm at right now. And it was a great achievement for me, a great accomplishment, great accolade, because it was just metrics on where I'm at in my life right now. So damn, somebody's gonna give me the recognition of turning your life. Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's making me want to do big and better things. So yeah, shout out to Mission St. Louis, man. They really laid it out. It was down at uh what hotel was that again? Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:39

It's a nice nice hotel.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:40

It's a nice, it's a nice joint. Nice as hell, man. It's a nice joint. 21C. Yeah. 21C hotel, man. It was down there and it was it was an epic night to have a few of my kids in the building, and it was like that, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:54

Yeah, man. You uh you have a trans, you, you like uh, like I said in the beginning, man, you know what I'm saying? You were rather inspirational guy, man, from the guy to vinyl, you know what I'm saying, outside of vinyl records, man, to the guy winning, you know what I'm saying, fellowship awards and all that, staying power awards, my bad, my apologies. It's like, man, you it's like you find a, I don't think it's anybody who find a solid balance between being a like you like a chameleon low-key, except you're not like you literally can blend in with everybody. The same guy that's on Ridge and Arlington can go over here and be in rooms with the mayor and all that, like, hey man, that shit blows that shit be mind-boggling to me at times too.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:44

Like, man, like I'm in a room with Kara and shit, like right.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:51

Like, you in every step and phase of your life and anything you've ever stepped foot in, you were around the decision makers, the movers and shakers.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:04

You know what I'm saying? Like I think that's aura, man, and and and and and what people see in you. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit, like even how I even got on this path has a lot to do with NLF. I try to get this nigga in there a few times, but Yeah, they keep denying me.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:17

I'm gonna keep trying, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:18

Yeah, that's a great program for you, bro. But I think that, like I said, it always goes to this. Somebody saw something in me, I ain't even seeing my damn self. You know what I mean? And that's how I get in these rooms. And I think once I get in these rooms, they like, nah, this, because another thing about it, when I go in these rooms, I ain't gonna speak on nothing that I don't know about. You know what I'm saying? And when I do speak on something, and when I do speak on something, you better believe I done did my research. You know what I'm saying? I dn, I done fact checked and done this shit. So I think it's uh a lot of that. And then another thing is I probably come off super genuine. You know what I'm saying? I don't come off trying to be no faker. Nah, fake. You know what I'm saying? So they probably like, damn, they probably still, as much as I want to be an intricate speaker and shit and all of that, they probably still hear the, you know what I mean, the slang and the and the authenticity in a nigga. So yeah, that'd be another thing, man. People like raw shit. They don't like when people be faking. So that's probably another reason why like people fuck with me like that for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:22

Definitely, definitely, man. I'm gonna spin back to that. I'm gonna close out. These last things is this, man. Close out. I seem to notice that I'll be asking for lists at the end, man. Top five battles on your camera.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:39

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:40

All time. And top five battles all time on your camera and top five battlers from St. Louis to you. Top five battle rappers from St. Like we not we talking about you, your personal favorite shit. Not we ain't talking views.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:56

I just, like I said, man, I don't want to even just say A-verb hit man. So I'ma give, I'ma give five niggas ain't got the niggas is not gonna be in there. Say listen. You know what I'm saying? Because we all know what they then it's like, it goes back to the top five with Nelly and them and all of that shit. It's like, damn, like, damn, like, that's the truth, but you gotta shed some light on some other niggas who who did that. And and I and there's no order, but I definitely want to. Trey Pounds is not from St. Louis. He's from Carbondale, Illinois, but I have to throw him in there because the impact that this nigga had on his city and on the streets that is stage is fucking unmatched. He was bringing 40 niggas with him every time, bro. East, we the reason why.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:40

40 niggas every time, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:42

So I gotta put Trey Pounds in there. Okay, Trey Pounds. I gotta put MVP in there, considering MVP comes from not battling, but doing ciphers. Even when Takeover 2 was doing battles, I don't think the MVP battled. No, he didn't. This nigga was up front at every battle rap event that I had as a kid in high school. And for him to turn into the person that he was, and it's like the nigga just calculated the shit. You know what I'm saying? But his run on URL, not even just URL, his run started with Nick G. And then it went to Chilla Jones on my camera. Yeah. DNA, Chef Trez, Kid Slade, True, Truth Watson. Anderson Burr. Come on, like, his run was impeccable. And another thing, he's the only nigga outside of Averb and Hitman to be on Summer Madness from the crib. Okay. That is an accolade in itself. Young Il has never been on Summer Madness. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So that's what that's true. That's two. Yeah, that's two. That's two. B motherfucking magic, man. The great, it's an up for a run on straight just writing ability with B Magic and MVP. Them are two of the greatest writers, bro, that St. Louis has ever saw, bro. I'm telling you. I know for sure that them MVP, I don't think that he's right. I think he's going on his phone. You know what I'm saying? Which that's still writing. I know that B Magic writes. Yeah. Notebook paper. Yeah, you can hear it, and you know that he write. You know what I'm saying? He be having like, his shit is 4-4 type shit. Which he, of course, he started he'll mix it up on you. Don't get it fucked up, but it's still in them that four boy setup. Uh MVP B Magic, Trey Powell. SK. The funniest nigga that's ever graced my stage. The funniest nigga. His style unmatched. And I didn't only think about SK, like, like he got his own character. Like, you feel what I'm saying? SK is SK, and when he battled Young X, he was doing something that made me so mad he wasn't SK. It was like he was sounding like Briz. Cause Briz had battled Young X before. So he was doing this like this little flow, and it pissed me off. Bad. Because I felt like he sounded just like Briz to me. But SK, because his just his character is just like unmatched, he's super funny. So that's four. Damn, man. It's like.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:45

We got one more, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:46

One more, man. Man, it's guns, man. Guns. It's guns. Guns is. He has such potential, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:00

Like. Hey, quiet as he's kept. He almost clear A-Verb, man. I mean A verb. Award. Yeah, guns is.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:08

So I yeah, I'm just gonna have to go with guns. And if I like, it's probably other people that I could put in there, but this just me right now. That's just those individuals that I'm gonna go off of. Them, I'm I'm fans of those guys. There you go. You know what I'm saying? I am f I am a fan of them. Honorable mention VI. VI was he was once my favorite battle rapper at the time. You know what I'm saying? That's before B Magic came and shit. But matter of fact, they battled each other twice, too. Twice. But yeah, so yeah, that's pretty much it. And then you said top top five battles happen on your camera. Top five battles happen on my camera, Aver versus S B. Okay. I'ma have to go with Hitman versus uh KD because they got me my most views.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:01

Okay. And Fat Boot Studio.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:05

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with B Magic versus SK, like you like you stated by. I'm gonna have to go with Trey Pounds versus SK. Phenomenal battle. Damn, I'm leaving some shit out, though. I ain't even gonna lie. I just I just thought about some shit, man. Damn, dude. Top five probably just ain't enough, but just off my. It was to put you on the spot. Yeah, you you did that. You definitely did.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:36

I figured you can go with top 15 if you wanted to.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:38

Uh be magic versus Horless. Man, come on. Even with Magic choking and shit in that battle, I don't think it was just high powered writing all through that battle, man. Like That shit was insane. So what else that three?

SPEAKER_00 1:50:02

That's five.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:03

That was five. That was five.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:05

Yeah, B Magic Heartless. SK Trey Pounds. Magic uh SK. Verb S B K D Hitman. Yeah. Yeah, that's five, man. Well, oh, I truly I truly appreciate you, man. I salute you behind the camera. I always say I can't salute you enough, man. I'm glad you was able to come from behind the camera, man, to sit in front of the cameraman for this interview. I don't know how long we've been going. It just felt like it's been going for quite a minute. But I'ma say this, man, and I always say it, man. Even when we clash on opinions and all that, man, all the time. But it's healthy, man. It's all in love, man. Just know that I respect who PK is. And vice versa. W W W 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:50

So a nigga gonna have fucking. We're gonna clash with a lot of shit. Yeah, 100%. Well, it's really just we only don't think we just clashing on. Don't please don't, world don't think that. We clashing with opinions and debates and you know what I'm saying? It's just high level conversation. So that that's really what we do.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:11

Yeah, definitely, man. But that being said, man, I always say this, bruh. You're an extremely inspirational and motivational guy. Like literally every box of what a solid person would be, you check it. You know what I'm saying? And literally, street status couldn't have been a better name. Not only as far as street shit, but it's like literally I've never gotten a bad. Like if a mug say oh, and now you done turned your life around, people know you Antonio. Right. It's like I've never heard in any aspect, like that ain't nobody ever got the lemon juice face. For sure. For sure. Hearing your name. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh yeah, he did, da da da da. And quiet as it's kept, like when people be you see TV and people be like, man, yeah, I know a guy who knows a guy. You can find old in a hole in a wall, and you can find this nigga in a boardroom, dah, in every space in between, dah. I do be pulling it off. I never understand, man. But he do it, man. But hey, you know what I'm saying? Uh I've never told you this, but I'm not a guy who's too proud to admit, like, it's some of your moves I try my best to emulate, man. Cause it's like, hey, I would like, shit, I wanna be, I be in holes in the walls. I ain't in no boardrooms yet. So I'm gonna get you in them boardrooms. I'm trying, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to be able to do that as well, man. But you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:52:40

I'm gonna get you in them boardrooms, but this is the pick. My nigga be wildin' on the local government online.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:49

Uh but they even even they respect me, but I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:52

But yeah, like, and I just be trying to tell them, like. You get more bees with honey than shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:00

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't give them, it might be vinegar. I ain't gonna go. I don't give them shit. It be vinegar. But I see what you're saying. You be on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:08

I just want you to be more how you feel is how you feel, but don't sever your fuck up your relationships with, you know what I mean? Or where you even trying to go, you know what I'm saying, with just shit like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:20

Yeah, man, definitely. But that being said, man, you always been a stand-up guy. Uh, you ain't never backed down on nothing you ever stood on.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:30

No, no, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:31

And you know what I'm saying? And in your words, man, shit, man. Stay solid. Never change, man. One of my favorite quotes from you, bruh. Where's the chant, fellas? Hey, man. Hey, man, one of my favorite quotes from you that I actually use all the time, man, is like, man, niggas is hoes, man. Niggas ain't got no integrity out here. And in a world, in an ever-changing world that we live in, where motherfuckers change allegiances and thought processes and whatever, whatever, at the drop of a fucking dime, all because they want to crack some girl, somebody they a fan of, did some hoe shit. And they people change, nobody stays silent and have integrity in themselves or confidence in themselves, man. And that that specific quote loops to me all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:21

And and just just before we get off, and I'm glad that you even spoke on that. First off, I want to say that for you to say that you emulated anything of mine, it was for that. And just to even hear some shit back like that, I truly appreciate that you're a real nigga for that. And then the one thing about niggas ain't got no integrity, they hoes or whatever. I I'm not saying that the battle rap culture right now is hoes or none of that. I'm not saying that. But the integrity that we had on making sure that St. Louis was a solid front of battle MC, you know what I'm saying? The culture was like stand up, it's gone. You know what I'm saying? Niggas is doing anything for them little few views and a little bit of recognition, and the integrity has been lost. So that's kind of like.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:09

The thing about that is I don't just apply it, I don't even apply that to battle rap, even though we can apply to that, I apply it to life. Cause it's like, it's hella shit that be happening in the world, and it's like motherfuckers don't think for themselves. They mother motherfuckers literally go with popular opinion just because that's what it is, and it be like, yeah, and don't let it be. Somebody you like is a part of it, or say they fuck with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:43

So I just want to really make sure that I said that about the battle culture though, because just to let motherfuckers know, like, it's it still might not make them have any integrity or whatever when it comes to the the culture, but I'm just saying, like, St. Louis had a super duper voice. We was uh we was a united front, you know what I mean? We might hate each other like a motherfucker, but on that front we was united. And uh I think that all of that is lost.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:09

We don't niggas is just going for themselves out here right now, and that's but like I said, man, I truly appreciate you sitting down with me coming from behind the camera. Wayne Mort, baby. Hey, that's it, man. Hey, oh, per usual, man, I can't salute you enough, man. I can't shout you out enough, man. If you want top-tier quality production, make sure you get with status digital agency. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Here in Powerhouse Studios or wherever you're located. Salute to Powerhouse Studios, man, for allowing us this beautiful space, man. Well, it's not allowed because I paid for it, but that's beside the point. But hey, man, this has been the Wayne Mart experience, man. This is I don't even know how long we've been going, man, but this has been the Wayne Mart experience. I am the one, the only Almighty PK Wayne Phillips, man. The man to my right, STL Mover and Shaker, man. You know what I'm saying? One of the realest motherfuckers you'll ever come across, man. From from D Square to City Hall, man. Solid nigga everywhere you can find him, man. The West Side, the West Side legend, man. O Weston, man. Yes, sir, man. Y'all be cool, how y'all be cool, man. We out.