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TWME #7 - Morgan Casey & Ro
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Morgan Casey & Ro are the heads behind "The Morgan Casey Experience" an event planning group who are well renowned across the country for their signature events. From Bowling After Dark, Adult Easter Egg Hunt, R&B Block Party and many others they are pushing the envelope on adult fun that accepts people of all races, genders, sexual orientations, and financial status in a fun and safe environment. Get to know them through this candid conversation on The Waynemart Experience.
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SPEAKER_00Indeed, indeed, man. The Wayne Mart experience, man. Make sure y'all like, share, and subscribe, man. Yup, man. What it is, what it is, world, we back again. This is the Wayne Mart Experience. I am your host, the one, the only Almighty PK Wayne Phillips. And the ladies I got to the right of me, one of them is one of my favorite people, and she has one of her favorite people with her here on the pod, man. Move and shaker STL, party promoter, event planner, philanthropist, all-around charitable person. Part-time used car salesman.
SPEAKER_01I just saw the house, too.
SPEAKER_00Hey, I was just about to say that too. Real estate, hey, real estate developer. She does it all. They do it all, man. The one, the only Morgan Casey and Ro. What's going on with y'all? What up, what up? Nothing much. Hey, first things first. Let me start out by saying I am, I start with gratitude with everybody. You could have been anywhere in the world. You were here with me. So I truly appreciate this. And I'm actually glad because you got Ro here. As much as I've been known you and been around you and see Roe, she be a mystery for real, for real.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she is.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Always wear shades. It's not just the shades. It's also the fact I don't really I'm gonna be real. I thought she was your security when I first seen her. Good. I thought she was your security at first. And then I seen her out there doing the uh Tamina slide or whatever that would have. So it was like, oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02They I'm a step connoisseur.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they yeah, they partners for real, for real, man. But we're gonna kick the pod off. Like I kick them all off, man. I got both you ladies here. Y'all from the city. What part of the city are you from?
SPEAKER_01That uh okay, because I can't just shout out Floreson, but that's not where I was born. I was born on Lee and Shreve, North Side.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01But I was there because I was three. And then yeah, Floresing.
SPEAKER_00He was in Florida for the rest of the time. Yeah. Bro, what about you?
SPEAKER_02I'm from the north side, the curve. Okay. That's what No, I don't.
SPEAKER_00I never heard nobody say it. Roshenbach Park. I do know what Roshenbach Park is, though, but I never heard nobody call it the curve.
SPEAKER_01But you moved out to the county too, right? Okay, rep, okay.
SPEAKER_02I don't rep.
SPEAKER_01You a county brownie too.
SPEAKER_02I was raised on the north side.
SPEAKER_00Where you're raised, that is technically where you're from, but as I asked that question, a lot of people. I learned that everybody is a little bit from everywhere. I'm from the north side, but I lived on the south side. I lived in North County, obviously. So, but most of my life was on the north side. So that's that. So, Morgan, bro. My question, I got this question for you, right? I've known you for a minute. I've only been aware of you since Morgan's been doing this. We go back to Mr. Weiss class, advisement and McClure North. Right? Yeah. What, I'm gonna just start off top with it. What made you start doing? What motivated you to start, you know, doing what it is you're currently doing?
SPEAKER_01Um, I would say, so I grew up in the industry. My mom, growing up, I would my mom was uh a singer, actress, touring the country, um, overseas, all of that. So that's why I moved to the county to live with my grandparents while my mom was on tour.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01And so being able to be behind the scenes my entire life of watching my mom, it was just something, I guess, that was just in me. Um, I don't know what made me want to do my first event, but it was 2013 speed dating event that I did in my dad's uh bar at the time and it sold out, and it's been up since then.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I only asked that because like I don't usually I usually know about the people that I'm talking to, but I don't really be, I don't really have a all the way back from high school relationships.
SPEAKER_01I don't know if you knew this, but I was throwing events in high school.
SPEAKER_00Didn't know that about it.
SPEAKER_01Um, but I was throwing pole parties at uh a Meritstar.
SPEAKER_00What's a pole party?
SPEAKER_01A stripper pole, and uh we would put it up in a Merit Star and stuff.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I knew you knew the bubble heads too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I was doing bubble head tours. I had I was a scammer. I started being a scammer uh since the age. Like now that I think about it, yeah. I had cemetery tours, I was doing that, pretending to see shit as I'm driving my car through the cemetery with the people. Y'all were paying for the shit. Like, um, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I was clearly oblivious because I know I worked at St. Louis Happy Hour all of high school. When they first opened. Yeah, that's actually crazy.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_00I worked at St. Louis when they first opened. When they first opened, um, most nook and tells salute to uh them at St. Louis Happy Hour. Uh my partner Todd, Ty Jenkins, he was working there.
SPEAKER_01His daddy's my ex-boyfriend. Don't just say his name and I say this my ex.
SPEAKER_00I didn't know that. Well, exclusive. I wasn't aware of that, but I knew y'all talked, but I didn't know he was your boyfriend. Whatever. We whatever, we're gonna keep pushing. Anywho, Todd, his pops got him the job up there because he knew the niggas that owned it. But when his grades got bad, his pops made him quit. Todd is like, that's my partner. We was on the bus one day, and that nigga told me, like, yeah, man, my daddy made me quit. I got off the bus and walked straight up there. Like, hey, I heard y'all got an opening up there. And I was there cooking, I was washing dishes, I was cooking. Shit, I did damn near everything but bought in. So, yeah, I worked there literally sophomore year through senior year. So I knew nothing about, you know what I'm saying, you scamming people to see the bubble heads.
SPEAKER_01It's cool. But I'm thinking, like, I actually I like this podcast already because it's making me like think back. Uh, and I was even younger, probably in like grade school, when I was living with my grandparents, my grandma had like real casino slot machines in the basement.
SPEAKER_00I can believe that.
SPEAKER_01And I was doing parties then too. And yeah, and then I remember building a haunted house in her basement, neighborhood kids paying to go through there. I've been a hustler, I guess.
SPEAKER_00It sounds like it. Yeah. Before we move on, because I want to make this interactive for both parties, because I've seen interviews you've been in, and Ro not a part of them, so I feel real exclusive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this now this dead ass is an exclusive.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Ro be a part of it. And I like I really do want to know about Ro. Because, like, even when I even when you've called me about helping you with something, and Ro was there, I just come do the help part. Yeah, Ro just be.
SPEAKER_01But uh she made it up. Her resume bigger than mine.
SPEAKER_00It keeps she just keep it pushing. So, anywho, I do want to know about this though, because I didn't know this shit about the whole bubble head tours and stuff. What was you charging people to do this? And how did you sell this to people?
SPEAKER_01The what, the back then? The bubblehead tools.
SPEAKER_00The bubble head tools and all this, because I know people believe that. Hold up, for context. Audience that doesn't know this, that's not from St. Louis. Correct me on anything I'm wrong about. The bubbleheads is a story that was told when we were kids. I was from the north side and I heard this, that they was this group of Hillbilly family who got experimented on who heads was hella big and lumpy and all that, that stayed out there behind Jamestown Ma. And it was a road that you drive down that has no lights on it, no nothing. And it's like if you drive, and people were saying if you people went out there at nighttime and was getting kidnapped and killed and all this other stuff, and people was literally afraid to drive down this road. Did I mess any of that up?
SPEAKER_01No, that's legit.
SPEAKER_00All right, cool. I tell that story because that was one of the few stories I bought into. I didn't believe nobody was back there for real, but I wasn't finna drive down that motherfucking road either.
SPEAKER_02So I think I believed it too, but definitely never went.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I never went down that road.
SPEAKER_01I I'll send this to you, but that's one of the recordings of the tour.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, I gotta see that. Yeah, yeah. I rolled past the road because I remember I was uh I had my mama truck one day. It was me and my brothers and like my sister. We was like, man, shit, y'all trying to go see the bubble head. I was like, bet. Man, we hopped in the truck. We got to the road to the top of that motherfucker. It was had to be like 8, 9:30, something like that. Dark as hell. Man, I turned and you could just see the lights down it, and even it was so dark. I'm like, y'all trying to go. It got quiet as hell in that car, boy. I bucked that UI so fast.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So, my bad. I'm I'm going down.
SPEAKER_01No, you that's that, but that's that's how it was. I mean, that's what I was doing.
SPEAKER_00But but you was how much people charge with it.
SPEAKER_02Like she was saying stuff in a way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so it's about it's no, it's about the experience. Like they, and if you think about what I do now, it's all about the experience. So although we never saw anything, it was the time that they got in my car to the time that we got. Y'all don't, I'm a genius. Like, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_00No, this is a genius. This literally selling something to a slug right here. Like, I'm I'm I she I don't know what she's laughing about. I'm laughing in my head because I'm picturing the I'm picturing you in a car driving and you just randomly jumping and shit because you're trying to sell that you see shit.
SPEAKER_01That's nice. That's part of the experience. If I'm a paid actress, then I'm a paid actress. Like, it just just know they had a good time. I had some people that returned. I remember shooting a movie. Did you know that? Uh shot a movie with Donatin in the cemetery.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you we kids, and I'm trying to shoot movies. I just done tried everything.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we gonna.
SPEAKER_01And the only thing that works is the rooftop and lie about loads.
SPEAKER_00Anywho, man, moving on. So you went from scamming to bubble head tours, movies and cemeteries. I'm trying to think. The first event of yours that I went to was the Rise Open Mic.
SPEAKER_03Gotcha.
SPEAKER_00I had just got back to St. Louis from the military in 2013. And me, I'm nostalgic like this. I anybody I went to school with, I don't care, elementary, middle, high school, don't matter. I love seeing my old classmates doing well, you know what I'm saying? Especially in a city like St. Louis. So uh I got back and I ain't had nothing to do one night, and I was just like, what's there to do? I don't forget who told me, but they was like, shit, Morgan be throwing an event. Uh it was called, well, it was called the boom boom room when you was there, but it was used to be called Lola's. And I was like, I bet I'm gonna go up there. And that was the first event I got into. How did you go from that? Like, where did you get your idea? Where do you get your ideas? That's what I'm basically asking. Where do you get your ideas for the event station decided to throw?
SPEAKER_01That particular event was something me and my mom started doing together.
SPEAKER_00Salute to Mama Casey, by the way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, um, and I'm not sure how if she came up with it or or if I did, but that was just a cool moment to be able to see how much talent was in St. Louis.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Um, and it brings everybody together from comedians to poets to singers, you know, everybody on one stage. Um, but as far as like my events now, that I get a lot of inspiration from out of town. I love looking at LA, New York, Houston, and seeing what they have going on, bringing it here and making it different. Um, but then sometimes God will just give me an idea in the middle of the night. Like it'll be something super random, or I'll just be on the couch chilling and just randomly blurt something out. Most times a friend is over at my house, whether it's Roe or Stacy or somewhere like that, and I'll call Vanessa and get be like, hey, what you think of this? And if they give me a green light, I just take off. I don't have no time to wait. Every time that I've thought of something and I've waited till the time was right, I lost that idea, meaning that God gave it to somebody else.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I see them roll out the exact same thing, and I'll be like, damn, why didn't I do it? You know? And so yeah. So that's why I move so quick. I think I've learned my lesson of just like, I don't have time to waste.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the show key. But yeah. So, Ro, when do you become I bring up the rise and all that because I don't I'm I don't remember seeing you back then. Granted, I used to come up there with my partners and I say what's up to Morgan. She had me play part-time security sometimes when people was like too loud while people was talking and all that. But when did you become a part of the whole team?
SPEAKER_02So at first I I I used to be a sheriff, um, and I did security for Adult Easter egg hunt. The Easter Egg hunt. You want me to go back?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you get they can hear you just, you know, just in case the audio.
SPEAKER_02Um for the adult Easter egg hunt. Right. Then um I ended up meeting an artist, ended up being her security, and then uh she got signed to Republic. We went and moved to Atlanta, did some stuff, and then we would bring Morgan on sometime to do content and just she, as my friend, just to enjoy the life. Like we was going to Rolling Louds, Alaska, we a little bit everywhere.
SPEAKER_01So uh She had me at Kate Bacon's house.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Who it was major, it was major stuff going on. Sitting at eating dinner with Denny Boy. I following the I follow.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we was moving like that. Yeah. Uh then that ship sailed. I came back and shit, she ain't let me give up. She poured into me. Um, shit, and we just hit the ground running. I at first I came back and it was like a manager role of It still is. It's every it's still.
SPEAKER_00When I asked her for this, she was sure like, hey, send this to her. Yeah, I'm like, I'ma forget.
SPEAKER_02And then it just shit, every day it just was like, well, what we doing today? Or how can we? And then one day, shit, we prayed to God about something and it just took off. Now we now we're here with you, Wayne.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh, I appreciate it. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02Nah, for real. It's been it's it's been a a good run so far. I wouldn't change nothing. Um It's only up.
SPEAKER_00Definitely.
SPEAKER_01I want I want to just piggyback off of something she just said. I I want to make sure that the the people here in January, like so we have been doing all this stuff, doing cool stuff, successful things, whatever. But um once you when you're producing your own events and things like that, if you experience a couple of L's, they can wipe you out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um it was January 2026, and we did we literally was sitting in the parking lot of Waterway over there by the galleria. Yeah. And this it prayed to God, and I think that was when we took the like the last little bulk of money that I had just sitting, and I was trying to decide if I was gonna invest it in in a certain tool that need needed for these events and things like that. We decided to do that, and we literally prayed to God together. And when she says it's been up, it it's it's been nothing but.
SPEAKER_00It's been up ever since. Yeah. Hey, that's that's definitely what's up. But roll bet just get back to you for a second. You mentioned a person. I'm not one for mess, so don't answer this question if you don't want to. Don't ask. Huh? Don't ask. Okay, say less. Don't let it stay where it is. I was gonna inquire about this artist, but we're gonna let that be. Let it ride.
SPEAKER_02Let it ride, let it ride. Say less.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna let that be where it's at. That being said, Morgan said your connections are deeper than hers. So what exactly is your background in this no whole world of this?
SPEAKER_02Uh, I I think it's um industry. Like I've been, like I said, the artist was signed to Republic, so I've been in different rooms. I've been at BT, I've been at Paramount, I've been in VH1. Um So I think it's just a w I wouldn't even say more. I don't know. It's just different, I guess.
SPEAKER_00So how did you get your start into, you know, into that world?
SPEAKER_02Being a good person. No, I started as like I said, I started as her security and it just being down, being there, being a team player, and just learn I've never been a manager of a a rapper, you know. So I feel like I can do anything I put my mind to. Um, so I just learned as I went.
SPEAKER_01You got I think I think it's one of those things where you have people that go to school for things and they're trained for it and all of that. But you have some people that truly just want a good person around them.
SPEAKER_02Facts.
SPEAKER_01And a good person that is able to adapt to anything. And that's definitely what hero is. Um so I think that's what it is.
SPEAKER_00Indeed, indeed. So you started We're gonna take adult time, we're not gonna go back to when you were scamming. When as an adult, when was your first event?
SPEAKER_01Uh 2013. Speed speed dating.
SPEAKER_00Speed dating, joint, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Damn, that's yeah. My first viral event was 2016, the adult prom.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that led, yeah, that was leading to my next one.
SPEAKER_02It was crazy. I was there as a guest. We we knew each other because my best friend is her god brother, so we've known each other for a long time. Right. Um, but as far as us getting close, it was the second prom actually, but I was I attended the first prom.
SPEAKER_01Dang, you the reason for the second prom. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think the second one is the one I attended.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she called me up, her and her uh uh artist at that time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, and asked me what I do the the prom. So I I don't know if you remember it went viral.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_012016.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, and I never did it again. And I had sworn that I wasn't gonna do one again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I remember the bad class. The backlash. Yeah, I'll get into that later, but yeah, I remember.
SPEAKER_01Or you wanna hit it now. It's a deep.
SPEAKER_00It's it's y'all interview.
SPEAKER_01We uh we can hear it.
SPEAKER_00We're talking about whatever.
SPEAKER_01That was my first event. That was when um I learned that sometimes something blowing up without the correct PR. That's when I I learned PR, I think, a little bit.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um, because you really had to try to get ahead of the commentary and things like that, or put out a statement. I had to learn early on like what that looks like and why it's important to do. What it was is that um I've never been a type of person who cared about what other people had on or how much money they look like they had and things like that. So when I got the pictures back from the event, uh I posted the pictures.
SPEAKER_00And uh I remember I remember around that time, I remember them comments. I was like, boy, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It was sad, actually.
SPEAKER_00Rude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was sad, and I think um what it what it was for the audience, if y'all don't know, a lot of people made fun of what people were wearing, how their hair looked, or how they were dressed, and things like that. Um sometimes those memories pop up, and I'm noticing like some of my closest friends to this day were one of some of the ones that was dragging the event and the and the people at the the event or whatever, but that's a whole nother therapy session. Um what they didn't know is that I had gave out so many tickets to people that actually were less fortunate and had never attended Prime.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know that, yeah, I remember that was your premise for it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and so a lot of the people that they were dragging were those people that there was one lady that they dragged the most who was homeless at the time with her kids and and our guy, and I were living like I think hotel to hotel or shelters or something like that. And um, that defeated me in a space of like, I never want to do this event event again. Um, as viral as it went, as much money as it made, as successful as if you were there, the event was, um it just wasn't worth it to me. But when she called me in 20, what? 2020? Nah, that was the pandemic. So it was before that.
SPEAKER_00It was definitely before the pandemic.
SPEAKER_0118 or 19, 2018 or 19, and asked, would I do it? For whatever reason, I said yes, and that that one was amazing.
SPEAKER_00I felt like a I felt like a celebrity that night. As you should.
SPEAKER_02That's when we really clicked. Like at the beginning of some degree.
SPEAKER_01But I think that's probably I don't know, but I think that might have even been where you were able to see why I do what I do and how I do it, what I do. If I truly believe in someone else, or if I truly um admire someone, then I'm a I go above and beyond. That event was not something that I was gonna profit off of for real. Like the those types of events, the expenses are so high. If you don't have sponsorship for it, you're not gonna make money. That's just how it is. But if it was a chance to like shine the light on somebody else, and at the time that artist didn't go to she didn't have a prom or something like that. Some in my mind, I'm like, okay, yeah, let's just do it. Um and now that I think about like even some of our clients, we're still doing the same thing of just truly making things happen, not because of the reward we get, but just because we want we want people to win. Everybody. We want everybody to win.
SPEAKER_00So as a team, as a collective, uh Speed Day and Joint was your first one. Your first major viral one that got you on the map was the adult prime. And you're damn 13, we had 26, you 13 years in the game. Yeah. Man, what is your overall most successful event? If you want to break it down even further, pre-row and post-row.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna have to say the most successful would have to be the Easter egg hunt still, to this day. Because that event, I'm nine years in, would have been 10 if we didn't have the pandemic. But nine years in, it's been successful every single year. Made front page of Wall Street Journal. Um, the profit is is always good. Um that would be my most successful because of how long it's been running.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Now, as far as newer success, it would definitely have to be all of the events I've been doing with uh Marvin Mitchell. Um, Marvin Mitchell, he's a financial advisor. He owns a company called Wealth Creators and all these different things, retirement solutions. And he was somebody that would watch from afar, and I would just look and be like, he's dope. Like he's got it. He's from St. Louis, but he's beyond St. Louis. And I shot my shot on Facebook uh two years ago, and was just like, I would love the opportunity one day to to work with Marvin Mitchell. I won't say he called me either that that day or the next day.
SPEAKER_02He was like he responded on Facebook first.
SPEAKER_01Okay, and then we got on a um on the call or something. And um he's like, Well, look, my birthday party my birthday's coming up in two weeks. Um, you think you could play in that? And we're not talking about a regular birthday party. This man, we had Kiki Wyatt, uh Mantel Jordan. Like, yeah, and you're talking two weeks, and I don't know what he got from that one time we did that, but every time Marvin calls me, it's it's pressure. Is he finna challenge us?
SPEAKER_02It's always last minute. It's always the most recent thing is uh we had his cousin a birthday party, and and we of course want to do balloons because it's a birthday party. Right. So the week of that Tuesday, I tell him, hey, the balloon vendor is gonna come the night before, which is Fri, she's gonna come Friday at such and such time. Is that okay? Because it was at his house. Right. He said, yeah, that's fine. That what that Thursday?
SPEAKER_01That Thursday, the party's Saturday.
SPEAKER_02That Thursday, he called and said, Oh, I don't know if you know, but my mama allergic to latex.
SPEAKER_01And we talk, we're talking, oh, we're talking over a thousand dollars worth of balloons. Come on.
SPEAKER_02It's like our fourth or fifth event with you. How how how don't we know this?
SPEAKER_01His I'm I'm actually worried. Is this live? Keep texting me right now. No, this is not live.
SPEAKER_00No, this is not live. This will come out late.
SPEAKER_01No, but he um we appre as much as we joking about these situations, he has truly transformed my entire business just off of a post of me shot uh shooting my shot on Facebook. Because it I've learned so much um how to book an artist, how to negotiate, how to produce an entire concert from beginning to end. We're like a one-stop shop. So he will literally just say, This is the day, this is the budget, this is the idea of kind of what I want to see, right? And we just take it and run. And for us to be able to not only produce the event, but also be the marketing power behind the event, that's not something you normally see. You normally see one of the other. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I be seeing you at uh Sunday Fun Days, and I'll let, like I said, Roe be standing somewhere looking around, scoping the scene. And Morgan, you just be in and out of doors, pointing in directions. Hey, look, I be like, look, man, I I don't even want to say how hey, she she got a show to run.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, my everybody always talks about my face, my eyebrows in the middle of an event. My eyebrows are like kind of, I be looking a little mean, and it's not that I just be super focused.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you you're a hosting.
SPEAKER_01She is too. We just show up differently. Yeah, she's more calm, and I'm that's me. Yeah, I'm manic for sure. For sure. Matter of fact, she says when I'm not acting manic at an event, that's when she's nervous.
SPEAKER_02Where it's like because whenever she is nervous, everything is gonna be okay. But when she's not nervous, it makes me nervous because what's gonna happen? Like it's it's okay, something's coming. Yeah, I think the when you wasn't nervous was the homecoming, and I was nervous, and that was one event that we canceled.
SPEAKER_01We had to cancel it, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So it's I've been right. So I didn't go to the fish.
SPEAKER_00Ain't broke, don't fix it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00But that being said, so that's wild, because I've literally never been to an adult Easter egg hunt yet to this day.
SPEAKER_02Really? Oh, you're gonna be a good one.
SPEAKER_00I freaked literally like two years ago, you was like, just show up. Something happened that day, and I just didn't make it. And I've been wanting to show up ever since, but I'm like, that was two years ago. I don't know if that invite me.
SPEAKER_01Let me say something. You are somebody that has, no matter what it has been, no matter who if it's me or my mama who calls you, the way that you've shown up, and people don't get to see that online. They don't know how much you've shown up for me personally. Um, people know it's gonna be a lot of people that probably see this, and like, she told me no to a podcast, whatever. It's certain people that have done certain things for me in life that I can't say no to. Um I knew eventually I would get on here, but I just want you to know you as a person and who you are, anytime, anytime you want to show up, anything you need from me, call me.
SPEAKER_02It's like that it's recording, so you got it.
SPEAKER_00It ain't need to be recorded for me to stand on it. It's just me personally, like, especially since I've been doing this whole poding thing. One, I'm learning as I'm doing this that a lot of people, I actually know a lot of people who've done a lot of things. And if I don't know the person who's done a lot of things, St. Louis is not big, even if you include the counties. We, you know, at six degrees of separation, St. Louis stops at that sixth degree. You know what I'm saying? They don't go be, it can go beyond that, but if you go beyond that, six is out of town. But I know somebody who knows somebody who can get me in contact with somebody else. That being said, the people I actually know, like you and others that are doing bigger and better things, just because I know y'all and I'm cool with y'all, I always felt like that'd be kind of disrespectful and rude to what motherfuckers got going on. You hear all the time about people trying to take advantage of what people doing. And it's like, nah, I'ma pay to like, hey, my partner, my dirty is throwing a big event. I'll pay to get in.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00She it costs money to put this together. I'll pay to do it. He's not here, he's probably on his way back now. But my producer who would normally be there, I never do a pod, but I'll salute uh shouting out my producer, my man's old Weston. Wouldn't be able to do this without him. That's my dog. I paid to get in his events because it cost him money to do it. You know what I'm saying? We live in a world where a lot of people feel like they are entitled, or they just want to feel like they that and they're trying to flex with somebody else shine. So it's like, hey, Morgan throwing an event. If I can make it, I'm gonna come. I'm also gonna pay because I've like I was at that adult prime. I seen the carnival shit and motherfuckers on unicycle and hurt legs and shit everywhere, and fire coming out the stage. I I'm pretty sure it's caused a pretty penny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Let me help some of this.
SPEAKER_01The fact you look at it like that, is a lot of people that do not understand that it may be a party to everybody else.
SPEAKER_00To you is my job. This is your job.
SPEAKER_01This is how I feed my family. And um I do wish that it that more people would would understand that and see that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, because like what was the like I was just your last not the I wasn't at the lemon drop down. It was like a couple weeks ago when Muzz had the little after party at the what's that place in Sulloid? I don't know. The Dak Refactor. Yeah, and you was coming to me, I'm not gonna say what it was about, but you was coming to me about a thing. And I was like, hey, Morgan, it's been this long, it can wait a little longer. You have an event to run. Handle your business.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00We cool. Go, you got a whole event to handle. Go do that. You don't gotta give me nothing. You ain't gotta stop and explain nothing to me.
SPEAKER_01But don't make they gonna think I owe you money before not.
SPEAKER_00Let's get this out here. They speak to try and look at it. She owes me no money, okay? She owes me no money.
SPEAKER_01I just heard a rumor yesterday that I owe or that it took me a while to pay some money out there. It was made up, it was so made up.
SPEAKER_00First things first, hold on, let me let me clear something up. And this is not just you as my guest. This is just you as my friend. I don't know what her quarterly earnings look like. I can tell you that she's offered me some money just to go make a run somewhere. And usually that's like for other people, that's like on the arm as a friend or like gas money. She you offered me, what was that? When you had the Love Island watch party shit at Washington Macaulay. Hey. Oh, to get the mic? Yeah, to get them fucking speakers.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, hey, can I send you this right quick to just run and get these speakers for me, please, and thank you. I'm not gonna disclose the amount because those are her pockets, not mine. But on a random Wednesday, Thursday to just send that kind of paper out. Yeah, because I appreciate it. Yeah, I respect you. She owes me nothing, is the point I'm making.
SPEAKER_01That's funny. I'm actually gonna watch this one back. I normally don't watch the podcast, mom, but I want to see this one.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, definitely, man. I'm yeah, we I'm getting too whatever sentimental. Anywho, on with the pie. We spoke about first event, viral event, best event. What is in all of your 13 years, y'all, worst event?
SPEAKER_01Ooh, that's a good one. Worst? All them damn speed dating events. Cause the men don't ever want to come. And I'm up, it got to the point where I was this an exclusive. I was paying men to show up sometimes to the damn speed dating events. I don't know what it is. I don't know if like the men here like nervous or something.
SPEAKER_00A lot of, I'm gonna be real. A lot of niggas don't got a lot of as a man, a lot of niggas don't got game like that.
SPEAKER_01Like, then that's why they went up, like the women calling us. We ain't gonna talk about it, but this is too.
SPEAKER_00All right, man. I'm gonna keep it skuggy with you. Knowing that you've been somebody who's been on Tamara Hall and uh other more, I'm a professional. I'm not finna downplay myself, but I ain't as big as them. I'm gonna be real. I didn't think you'll be this loose and candidate as Pi. I'm thoroughly enjoying this.
SPEAKER_01This is why I do like these types of podcasts. I'm gonna be myself. I was on Tamar Hall Fagin. Fagin Fagin. No, like okay, I need a documentary for real. What? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna be real. As many events as you throw, especially now that you're going national, I'm surprised. I mean, budget-wise, whatever, whatever. I'm surprised you don't literally have like a designated, like behind the scenes like camera person. So shout out to C Dot. Um shout out to C Dot.
SPEAKER_01Like when I say I could call him anytime, and if if he is in St. Louis, he's showing up. Every time he don't ask me no questions because he knows sometimes the budget here, and sometimes it we can't find it. But when I say that man shows me so much love, um, but he has enough footage of me to where definitely we could, we actually were in the middle of a documentary for last year's 314 day.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Of being of showing what it was like from the day we woke the morning we woke up and it was uh saying it was gonna be a tornado today.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And having to rewire that entire event around a tornado to make sure that everybody was safe to the next day. And so what I did talk to him about recently is that if we do that adult carnival, I don't know if you saw the post. I saw that if we do that event, I'm gonna want him to film from beginning to end of the process because so much happens behind the scenes that people need to see. They need, they really need to see, not just because of me, but knowing that, okay, if this is what's happening to Morgan, imagine the other things that happened to all these other amazing curators in the city.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, you never know. Y'all get to show up and enjoy, you know, the finished product, but the behind the scenes is blood, sweat, tears, and more.
SPEAKER_00Right. Let's stay on that. Because you've thrown events, like I won't say I paid close attention, but I paid close enough attention that I kind of you've brought something to St. Louis that a lot of like I don't know if you remember me telling you this one day. We uh you was uh you was talking about like cleaning out your phone and your laptop and all that, and you was like, who would come do it with me so I don't procrastinate? And I was like, I'll do it. And you hit and you know what I'm saying? I came down there. What's the name of your people coffee shop? Latte Lounge. Yeah, the latte lounge. Came there, whatever, whatever. And I don't know if you remember me telling you this, but I was like, you asked me a question about your events, and I'm like, man, you was like, man, I tried so many different things, and I don't know if they're gonna work or not. And I'm like, Morgan, you realize that you gave people a chance to feel like a socialite in St. Louis. St. Louis is not a glamorous city. I love my city, I love where I'm from. This is a blue-collar city, it's not a glamorous place. We got bullshit weather, we get summer for two and a half months, we get winter for nine. But no matter what's going on outside, short of a state of emergency, you've come with things that make people like, you've literally thrown a you've thrown a hip hop orchestra, which is crazy because shortly after that, not saying he took it from you or nothing, but Jeezy came her like a year or two later and did the Jeezy orchestra thing for hip-hop.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he was doing, I think he was doing it beforehand. I got I got the idea from Metro Boomin doing it in Atlanta. And I'm like, I I loved, I kept watching it, and I was like, let me do something similar.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he did a hip hop orchestra. That's some shit mothers ago out of town to go do. You had an art gallery. Man, no disrespect to the people of this city. Motherfuckers ain't got paper like that for art or even the culture or the creativity to truly appreciate art. You know, like people be in movies, like, oh my God, this just makes me feel. No, people don't had that, but you took a chance on it to bring it to the people. Damn near every Sunday, while it's warm enough outside, we get to. Do you know how legendary this is? I don't think, like, a lot of people don't stop and smell the roses. You know what I'm saying? And both of y'all should do this. You know what I'm saying? Do y'all realize that y'all have black people in a city like St. Louis chilling on a rooftop in ballpark village? The Cardinals, we're looking at the Cardinals Stadium. It's white people here from out of town, like, oh my God, I love the Cardinals. I remember they won the World Series in 1962, and da-da-da-da-da. And on this rooftop at the same place, everybody getting their souvenirs and their pictures and all this other stuff. They just came from the arts. And on this rooftop down here, you can hear Looking for the Hoes by Sexy Red, and all of us is down here partying, having a good time. Ain't no ghetto shit, ain't no ranch shit, none of that. For that alone, legendary. The fact you was able to get Ballpark Village to even agree to that, whoever it is, love by lows, live by lows. I said love by lows, live by lows, whoever it is.
SPEAKER_01You know where I was before that? Talk to me. City Museum, the rooftop. For things, I think two years. I was doing City Museum rooftop events. Now, that was more catered towards not our demographic, um, but being able to pull those numbers up there was major. And being a black woman to be a part of that, of producing those rooftop events for so long was was cool. Um and then, yeah, I do, I do get, I hear what you're saying, and just recently I did have that moment of having to remind myself of just like who I am. Because you get imposter syndrome with this stuff. Um I got imposter syndrome bad.
SPEAKER_00I wish you wouldn't have. I can't tell you how to feel, but I wish you wouldn't have. I tell you what in a second, though.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, I got it bad. Most times that you've seen me on something of saying that I've gotten an award or something like that. I would say probably 75% of the time, I don't show up to the award ceremony. I know it's crazy. There's several awards out here that I need to pick up because I haven't um I don't always make it my duty to get there and grab that award because it's a lot of imposter syndrome there. It's a lot.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna say this, and by extension to you, Ro, because y'all at this point are a cohesive unit. Let me before we continue, you don't have imposter syndrome, do you, Ro?
SPEAKER_02Nah. I'm pretty, I'm good for the most part.
SPEAKER_00Decent. Cool. I say that for this reason, right? Because I've heard a lot of successful people say they feel like they have imposter syndrome, survivor's remorse, things of that. And since I've been doing this and any other endeavor I've done, I've had people say, like, you're gonna feel that adventure. I don't feel like I ever will. The reason being is because everything you got, ain't nobody giving you these motherfucking awards because you didn't work for them. You I'm willing to bet nine times out of ten, you didn't know you were up for said award. Yet, once it came to your attention, that means everybody else is seeing what it is that you're doing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I I and I think So there's no need to feel like an imposter for that. You're working hard than a motherfucker to do that.
SPEAKER_01This is true. But I do think sometimes popularity plays a huge part. I'll give you an example. Right now I'm up for four nominations with St. Louis American.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um, and one of the categories, I can't remember what, one of the categories that I'm in, in my mind, I'm like, I don't really think that's that applies to me.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01My fear is winning that because out of the popularity side of it, people will see that, see my name and click my name just because it's me.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01That's not fair. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's in it's moments like that where I'm like, am I getting this because I earned it, or am I getting this because I'm popular?
SPEAKER_00What exactly do you know exactly which award it is?
SPEAKER_01I don't. I got it, I would have to look and see.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But I appreciate the love. Like, I I don't want to seem like I'm not appreciative. I definitely love the support that I get in this city. I it's it's actually unbelievable. In a city like St. Louis, to get the consistent support that I I receive is unheard of. Yeah, facts. From every from every, not just our culture. Everybody. But from everybody.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01So I I do love it a part of the city.
SPEAKER_00That's why I say what y'all have done is legendary. Whether you realize it or not, it's not a city that comes together about a lot of shit. But I know I've had mothers who be like, I'm gonna be real. As somebody who knows you, I try not to tell people, I don't act like I don't know you, that's bullshit. But I be like, I just say, hey, I'm going to Sunday Fun Day. I'm not finna say, hey, I'm finna go to my homegirl event that's Sunday Fun Day. Because if they put two and two together and see that it's you, you know, it's St. Louis Muggs, I'll feel like, oh, can you no, yeah, I can't.
SPEAKER_01My family deal with it all the time.
SPEAKER_00No, I can't. I pay to get in. Yeah. Nigga, so guess what you're finna do? So that's that. But back to that imposter thing, y'all work hard, man. Y'all work. Y'all have no idea. Y'all work hard and then matter of fact. I was about to jump around for a second. Y'all work hard as a motherfucker, and now y'all are state to state with it now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? What made uh what made you branch out and start hitting different cities with, you know, the Morgan Casey experience?
SPEAKER_01Going back to being a kid and seeing my mom on tour, that was something that I loved the tour life. Like, and I didn't even get to experience it full-fledged like my mom did. But I remember being on my mom's tour bus and flying into this city. Yeah, but they're just like, lived on tour, like okay, yeah, on the road. And so I fell in love with that early on. And so I always knew I wanted to eventually be in other cities, but never really had the courage to do it. Um, when I decided, like, hey, I'm gonna do it, it's becoming a popular thing now where event producers are taking their events in other cities. The thing is, I didn't try, no, I actually tried to jump out there two years ago and randomly do an event in Houston. I sold, I think, 14 tickets. And I was like, oh yeah, I gotta cancel this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I wasn't running ads. I'm thinking I can just post on working Casey page in Houston, people are gonna be like, I'm coming out. Didn't work like that. So I I had to I stopped. So what I did was I reached out to a couple of those people who have tours that are already traveling, but they weren't coming to St. Louis.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I started um partnering with them to bring them to St. Louis, and then I get a percentage of revenue, things like that. But I was able to learn from them of how that actually works. So I took maybe what six months? When was our first out-of-town event? January? Or February or something like that? So probably like six, seven months um of studying them and learning how they're doing it, asking them questions, and um finally felt like, okay, it's time, let's do it. And first event out of town sold out.
SPEAKER_00Was that the uh RB bowling joint?
SPEAKER_01RB bowling in Mississippi, yeah. So you may have seen us say that we were doing events in like New Orleans and Atlanta before that, but that was with that tour. Okay. We were bringing them to those cities with our connections in those cities. Right. Um, but yeah, our first self-produced event was in um Brandon, Mississippi. Brandon, Mississippi.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01We'll be back there this Sunday, actually.
SPEAKER_00See what I mean? Sold out. Busy than a motherfucker. Cool. So this is my thing, right? We've covered worst, best. What's y'all favorite event?
SPEAKER_02My favorite is bowling. It might be a tie. Bowling and kickback club. And I'm gonna say kickback club because it's faceless, uh it's a whole different crowd, and it's always somewhere you would never expect the event to be. We done done. It's it's fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, those are cool, those those are cool ones. I'ma set any event with Marvin. And the reason being is because it challenges me. And if anybody knows me, they know I like a challenge from women to career paths, like things like that. I love to be challenging. I don't like anything easy, easy, it gets boring. Um so when we're doing those events, I'm constantly having to learn something new, navigate through a lot of hoops, and it's it's super fun for me.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Cool. So is there damn I can eat this mic? Is there a city? Matter of fact, jumping around. My question to y'all, right? There's something I wanted to ask you like hell is a go. I was gonna text it, but I'm like, man, she's busy. I'm not gonna bother with this fantasy ass question. But I be having ideas of stuff I want to do, but it really be coming down to I don't really got the paper like that to do it. I'm a regular Joe. But as uh event planners and party promoters and all of that stuff, y'all got a blank check, is my question to y'all. Y'all gotta blank check. Right? Wayne comes to Rowan Morgan, like, hey, look, money's not an issue. You can throw whatever event you want to throw in whatever city you want to throw. What would that event be?
SPEAKER_01If you're asking me that today, I would say the adult carnival. It hasn't I haven't seen it done yet. Um it's extremely unique. Uh based off of the numbers online, it would be successful. So I don't know if you ever noticed I test events out before I actually put them out there by making a post and asking people what they want.
SPEAKER_00Would they be interested in? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So the very first adult prom, that was my marketing tactic. I made a fake flyer on uh, I think I forgot what it wasn't Canva at the time, it was some other kind of app that you would use or uh website you use to make flyers.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01And I made a fake flyer and I said, if I had an adult prom, would you come? I think that was the first time I hit a million views on something. And so um since then, I use that tactic with a lot of different things. And so most recently was the adult carnival, and I would sent Marvin the numbers over, and I was like, hey, it's been two days and it's over a hundred thousand views on Facebook. This is a winner. So yeah, it would be that. But it it's it takes a lot of money to produce something like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, so yeah.
SPEAKER_00Nah, that's asked that's that's going into trade secrets. I'm not gonna ask you.
SPEAKER_01Ask me. I'll and uh if I can't answer it, I will tell you.
SPEAKER_00Nah, I was gonna ask what exactly does the adult carnival look like to you, but a carnival with no kids.
SPEAKER_01Of course I'm gonna add some extra sauce to it. I won't say that, but uh honestly, a a carnival that you would go to, Flow Valley or whatever, but no kids.
SPEAKER_00And you throwing that her? Yeah, I I can't I'm I'll pay to get in, but I can't wait till it happens. Um you've been on this 13 year run with these events. What is your ultimate goal for like the Morgan Casey experience? I know you I know you say you just hey, you like hey, I get the idea, I get enough courage to do it, you pull the trigger on it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't. What's the ultimate goal of like the Morgan Casey experience?
SPEAKER_01So think of Live Nation.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um but instead of just concerts, picture more so events like I do.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So what I mean by that is me producing events under Data Ideas and Things Do and Morgan Casey experience, but also buying into other people's events and producing those, um, traveling, you know, across the world with these different events and things like that. So if if you ask me what blueprint, who do I watch, who do I study, is live nation.
SPEAKER_00That's actually not only ambitious, that's cold. And considering that it's coming from you and what you've managed to do independently.
SPEAKER_02That's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like I have absolutely positively no doubt that you can pull that off.
SPEAKER_01I'm not, and I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm not aiming to be as big as they are, but I want that that same structure and foundation that they have. Um sometimes when I say it, I think people truly in their head picture me being this national name and this and the other. That's not necessarily my goal. It's just um it's the blueprint for sure.
SPEAKER_00Definitely. I'm gonna say this, right? Because it's a pod. And I'm not a real clickbaity guy. But I'm gonna just say this because it's some we're friends on Facebook. It was a picture from the rise that I took of you, Los, and your uh and my McCasey. Do you remember the caption on that picture?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00I don't have my phone, it's in the other room. I'm not gonna walk out to go get it.
SPEAKER_01But what was the caption?
SPEAKER_00The caption on this picture was I would have risked it off for this version.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I did see that.
SPEAKER_02Did that come back around?
SPEAKER_00I feel like I recently put it on the case. No, it popped up in my memories when she when she was doing the Rise Open Mic, I just came out one night to kick it. And then I just so uh my partners Reggie, Stefan, Vince, and Cam, they all did comedy, right? So I used to bring my camera to just get pictures of them on stage and record them on stage. And Morgan, after like two or three events, Morgan came to me and was like, Hey, would you mind taking pictures? She actually got up on stage herself. She ain't want to curse because her mama was there.
SPEAKER_01That wasn't, don't bring that up.
SPEAKER_00I'm not gonna tell the story about it, but she was like, Can you get can you take pictures? Because I'm gonna get on stage. I'm like, Yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_01But that was the first time I oh God, why you bring that up?
SPEAKER_00I remember the whole thing.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, it was no shut.
SPEAKER_00I'm not gonna go into it. I'm not but I remember I remember it. And she was like, Can you take my picture while I'm going to go?
SPEAKER_01It was a mess. If you ask me, what Morgan, what's your most embarrassing moment?
SPEAKER_00That okay, move on. Let's anywho, back to the story. So she asked me to take pictures of her while she was on stage, and when she got off, she didn't want none of the pictures because she didn't like how she did up there. But she was like, hey, would you take pictures, you know, of everybody that gets on stage every week? She had started the little Facebook group, the Rise Open Mic and all that. And I was like, Yeah, bet. I don't say less. Cool. Man. I posted that right, because I posted that one, because it's funny, two, because it's true. Three, no bullshit. Obviously, you are who you are now, and whatever, whatever. But if we taking it back to 2017, hell no, we going high school with it. I remember, I won't say as our first interaction was in Mr. White's class, right? We didn't really have that like an interaction like that. But I remember my first thought when I saw you, and I'm saying this because it's my pod. And you're my friend now, but gotta get this out here, right? I remember, so I was going to Gateway at first, and then my mama got a promotion at our job, and she moved us to Fluorescent, right? I I caught the bus the Gateway. I didn't want to go to McClure North at all. My mama said, fuck all that, you going. Cool. I remember first advisement. I walk in, and I'm like, All right. I'm Craig and I've never heard this. This is how vivid, this is how vivid this memory is, right? I walk in, you had a uh a white look, uh, something kind of like this, but a female version of this, some jeans on, and like some white forces. And I was like, boy, I'm thinking, who the f I'm scaring?
SPEAKER_01Why you never saying nothing? I would have been probably straight now if you would have said so. Why you say nothing? Yeah, see how everything in the world matters.
SPEAKER_00I was new at the school. I'm like, man, I ain't really talking to no. When I was mad, I was at North, for one. And I didn't think I didn't think I was gonna, I didn't think I was gonna like North at all. Two, my uh, my little brother Guzm and my brother rest in peace. My uh stepbrother Taran, motherfuckers knew them already, whatever, whatever. I ain't wanna I ain't want nobody to know I was related to them. Not that I'm ashamed of them, it's just like I kind of yeah, I like to ride my own wave. I don't want to be known as they brothers. Like they used to have girls from school come to the crib rude as fuck. Like, I got class with them. What you doing here?
SPEAKER_02Motherfucker, I believe.
SPEAKER_00What the fuck are you doing?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Like, anyw, back to this memory. So I walk in advisor. I ain't like the school, but no bullshit. You were the first of many girls that I seen that was like, I know I think I could like McClure North.
SPEAKER_01I was like, who the thing? I be trying to tell her, like I'm like, who the fuck is they got this out?
SPEAKER_00Oh nah, I'ma like North. God this is gonna be you gotta use this as a uh well the clip, yeah. Absolutely, but I'm like, like no bullshit. I look forward to advisement because you was in there. Really?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that makes my heart.
SPEAKER_00I look forward. One of everybody in there talks shit. Mr. Weiss was one of the coolest teachers ever.
SPEAKER_01He was the shorter guy, right? With the spikes.
SPEAKER_00Nah, he was like that white dude with long, like shoulder-length hair. Journalists, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he spent this summers in like Cambodia and shit like that. Like he.
SPEAKER_01What's crazy is he so I had him for journalism too. And um I remember doing my first interview, like I was interviewing um Miss Mrs. Steele. I don't know if you remember her.
SPEAKER_00I remember the name.
SPEAKER_01But uh, I remember afterwards him telling me, like, hey, you really should consider like going to school for journalism, things like that. And that's when I went to her still, that's that is what I was gonna um study, but didn't finish or anything like that. But when I look at like what I do now, or especially when I was doing date ideas and things to do it during the pandemic, yeah, that was journalism. Um, and so it was just like full circle for me of like, it isn't always like what you when somebody tells you something, it's not always exactly what you think it's supposed to look like or how you're supposed to get there. But uh, what's for you is for you. But um, so I say that to say I might be for you.
SPEAKER_00And hey, first thing, look, Morgan, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna say this here. Hey, you my dirty, I fuck with you the wrong way. I put somebody I fuck somebody up and put somebody in the ground behind you, but please don't threaten me with a good time. Yeah, that's my favorite cast I'm doing. Please, please don't. It's funny, but nah, no bullshit. Actually, it was you and Jay Taylor. That Jay, I still Jay the one to be flashing me when she came.
unknownGotcha.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I seen it was I was like, man, I'm like, I remember being mad because that was my first day at North because we uh I didn't me and my brothers, we had just got to the county, so we didn't have a bus yet. So we had to walk to school. On the way to school, uh St. Louis County flagged us. Like, I'm talking about like three, four cars flagged us coming down Waterfoot. That's crazy and had us sitting on the curb, like, we like, what's going on? They was like, we got reports of like kids trying to like break in, like, breaking houses out here. I'm like, my brothers then was scared. I'm like, man, we knew out here, man. We on our way to school. We like what school y'all go to? McClure North. I'm like, they like they checked our book bags, all of that, whatever, whatever. I'm like, we just on our way to school. When they seen we wasn't on nothing, they was like, they left. I asked the police officer, hey, like, can y'all give us a ride to the school? Nah, we can't. So we still had to walk. I'm already don't want to go to the school. This dumb ass shit happened. I'm mad than a motherfucker. Uh Mr. White shit used to be, what's that area that was by the snack bar? Whatever that little area is by the snack bar in the caveteries where he used to hold his advisement at. And I walked in that motherfucker pissed. And I turned my head out.
SPEAKER_02Same morning.
SPEAKER_01Oh. Who the fuck is that? Who the fuck is this? I wish I had more pictures of high school.
SPEAKER_00So, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That was a good time.
SPEAKER_00That's one of the that's one of the beauties of having your own podcast. You get to tell your stories to the people that watch McColly.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm glad you shared it.
SPEAKER_00That was that.
SPEAKER_01Now my ego is gonna be even bigger.
SPEAKER_00It should be. You know what I'm saying? Take that story out of it. Like I said, man, like I've told you numerous times, whether I texted to you or told you in person, like hey, you are the queen of this city. There's not, that's not being facetious. That's not saying that because you my partner. There is nobody doing events bigger than you at the moment. That's just the truth.
SPEAKER_02Say it again. When you say I ain't hear you.
SPEAKER_00I'll do you one better. There is nobody in the city of St. Louis and the surrounding areas that is doing events bigger than Morgan and Roe. It's not anybody bigger than you got a big ass machine behind them, a live nation or something for that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we are independent. But I do want to point this out, and I don't mean to like make it seem all super humble or nothing, but the truth is the reason why we go so hard and we stay humble, because that could change anytime.
SPEAKER_02Facts, definitely.
SPEAKER_01God can lit as quick as God has blessed us and given us everything that we've been asking for, he'll take it away. As soon as you get too comfortable, or as soon as you forget he is the reason and things like that. And I want to make sure that like anytime I am on a podcast or on a platform, um, I gotta give him glory. Like, and I'm a lot of people just recently, the gospel day party, we just had it this past Sunday. If you've been to that event, I don't touch the mic, you don't really see me out front at all because I respect the space, and I respect the fact that um I don't feel that I'm in the the position to lead that particular event.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01I can produce it, I can book the venues, and I can do that, but I'm not in the space to lead that. And I take God and I take um everything around him very serious. And so it's important for us to like find those people in this city who can carry that, um, like a Vanessa Townsend and a scooter and uh DJ Team Wheel, DJ Bounce. Make sure that we have the right people in the position. Um, but I just don't ever want to, as I continue like doing what I'm doing when I do have the the opportunity to speak or whatever, I want to make sure I always give God the glory. Like for real, for real.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna be real. That was very wholesome. I feel like we need a moment of silence after that. I'm not even being funny.
SPEAKER_01A moment of silence is crazy.
SPEAKER_00I'm just that was because I didn't expect you to go that deep.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Well, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00Because you mentioned, no, no, no, because you had mentioned a gospel day party, and then you kept going. But no, that's cool. It's your interview, it's y'all's interview. Yeah, it's talk about what you want.
SPEAKER_02It's real. We um we we tap in and pray before every event, you know, and then it it keeps us going. It keeps like it just it worked, you know, it's real. So we we we definitely tapped in and uh we just gotta stay humble.
SPEAKER_01Those are things y'all people don't see.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mentioned the Queen of the City thing, not only because that actually is what you are, but the thing about being on top is that there are adversarial things that happen, right? Now, I'm not like I said, I'm not a clickbait kind of guy. I just ask questions that I genuinely want to know. If you don't want to answer it, you don't have to. You don't have to say no names, none of that. But outside of the hard work you put in, St. Louis being the city, it is, have you ever felt like at any like in any moment in your 13 years that it was Muggs who was pushing against what you was trying to do?
SPEAKER_01You would think I asked you you would think I gave you notes or something to ask me. Um absolutely.
SPEAKER_00I know one of the public was when you was trying to throw the joint at the water park and shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. They first let me stop.
SPEAKER_01What was that water park? Uh two. Collinsville, Aqua Park, and Raging Rivers.
SPEAKER_00Y'all some hoes. I just want y'all to know that. Y'all some some complete other bitch ass niggas for that. You know what I'm saying? Because I'ma be real. Like that shit made me mad when I seen it. But that's on like one that I know of, because you was like real, real public with it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Are there any other ones out there that was uh there was a venue in town and country, I cannot remember the name of it, but they were so disrespectful to me and my um entire event um that I refunded. We we had the event, but I refunded every single guest.
SPEAKER_00because of the disrespect from that that that event uh that venue cannot remember the name but um couldn't believe it imagine you have the entire space for your event the thing is is that when it was booked I had uh the person who booked it could present you know another ethnicity or maybe wasn't I don't know I don't know what the situation was but they weren't expecting people like me and yourself and Roe to show up um when we did for the for the event they put reserve signs out on the tables of a space that we had we have the entire space yeah and it was like they didn't want us to be comfortable they didn't want us to sit um they it was complete we couldn't believe it no one could so I wish I knew the name of it that shit that shit is insane man especially with your reputation you've gone a decade plus with minimum bullshit happening at your events and mugs will still be like nah we don't want you or your crowd and our establishment the the money good the status good the crowd is decent and mugs is still like nah we good on that I know how that makes me feel but I'm not the person who put it together nor putting my bread behind it as a team how does that make y'all feel that despite all y'all successes all the good shit y'all brought all the positivity y'all brought to an entertainment space which is also legendary how does that make y'all feel um in the moment right when something happens it's it takes me out it's a lot of things that people don't get to see how I I'm a very emotional creature uh they like to say dramatic but I wear all my feelings okay so but then when I get over it and I look at look back it just makes me appreciate the spaces that we do have um one of the reasons I think that we're able to work with places like a city museum or live by lows or doing things with Chicago bulls things like that is the the dedication that we put into what we're doing.
SPEAKER_01We are both of us for sure we are never too good to pick up trash we are never too good to be a door person to help with dishes if needed whatever the event takes we're able to assist in that in that way. And I and venues they see that and so when you have those connections when you work well with a person who runs this particular venue they're able to now be your referral to get into the next place and so on.
SPEAKER_02So it just it's one of those things I don't harp on spill milk but focus on you know the good um it's pretty much the same I I kinda she probably react more than me um I try to be level headed so she can be level headed um and it we have so many wins it it's probab we probably not supposed to it's probably a reason that we not supposed to be there anyway. So we just keep on going and find something better.
SPEAKER_00That was very very positive and mature y'all because like I said when I saw that Rage and River shit, oh man I was I was pissed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah that was that one pissed me up too because it was it was obvious that y'all did it the excuses was crazy. That's what I don't like bullshit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah I don't need when you come with bullshit it's just like you could have it and then from like from what you put out there publicly it's like the business was all good until somebody went and ran their fucking mouth lying and all this other bitch ass shit now which oh we we didn't know it was gonna be all of this they said it they put a retirement board yeah yeah it it that should have been a documentary that whole and the guy was literally like they can be in her naked i don't what retirement party they gonna be naked like that like that wasn't I thought we wasn't having a naked swimming party we wouldn't they were not having they were not having a naked swimming party it was uh it was unbelievable that's the only way to put it yeah that that shit is insane like it took me a while to get over we've had you you see a lot in this industry um the gospel day party when I first started it I stopped for quite some time because a gentleman had called me uh saying that he was interested in being the promoter for the gospel day party and taking it out of town I'm all excited I'm telling the whole team I'm like all right we got it y'all uh he sends me over the contract I look at it and it was like this is BS so I decided not to go with him so then he started his own gospel day party to actually be in St. Louis in May City Winery I do remember I forgot all about that that was something else that pissed me off like I really just don't and I'm gonna say this is a motherfucker idea like that.
SPEAKER_01But the thing is it's one thing to be inspired and to do some whatever where he went wrong is to call me we're talking about potentially him taking this and doing this and doing that. I'm giving him the information because if you think talking about being a promoter for it you gotta see the numbers you got to see you know what it's doing. So for me to give you all of this information and you turn around and just pluck the whole idea that they hurt that made me feel like dang everybody not good you know yeah um but we back at it he's gonna be here in St. Louis I this is the first time I'm publicly saying anything about it. I've been seeing that he was coming to St.
SPEAKER_00Louis for months um that's some bald ass shit too like you gonna come to the you're gonna throw your shit in the city of the person you stole the fucking idea from who throws that same event in the city but you know what who checked me was my auntie um she has said to me as messed up as it may be at the end of the day this particular event is to bring people closer to God and if he decides to do that this person decide to do whatever if we all bringing people closer to God who am I to to complain?
SPEAKER_01And I notice like sometimes it's easier said than done but that's what made me finally get over it because it's bigger than me. Yeah it's bigger than the purpose is bigger than me. So all it means is I just gotta step my marketing game up and be able to we everybody do what they do.
SPEAKER_00Most definitely once again I do appreciate y'all being down here we've been going for about an hour some changes and I I know y'all are very very busy people flights to catch events to book things to plan I get it I'm gonna get y'all out of here on these last couple questions.
SPEAKER_02So through all this time you've dealt through went through adversity in this successes in this and this is for both of y'all I actually thought of this question literally when she was when I was like she was like yeah bring Roe with you I thought of this question when I said that what is individually y'all happiest moment working together since y'all been together I think mine was the first RB block party and that was our first part of the event um the week of we downsized the whole event because the tickets went selling no the week two weeks before we was downsizing the week of tickets started going crazy so we sold it out but then it ended up being like the hottest day of the fucking show I remember that I was there it was hot as fuck. It was hot as fuck but it it all worked out um but it it was just uh I don't know it was that was uh it was different.
SPEAKER_01Yeah that was a good one I it's hard for me to say my favorite I could say my favorite moment of every event that we do together is at the very end at the very end when we able to like breathe lock in with each other and do our handshake that we got because it's just a moment of like like she said we did it again we did it again because so like the happy moment yeah of the event of like whenever we do an event that's the hat because when the event is going on we're not we're not there if that makes sense yeah we're not there I think what y'all yeah what y'all are enjoying and all of that is not really us.
SPEAKER_00You know so once it's over with and we can well we truly can say that's my that's my happiest moment but we able to we literally even if she across the stage and I'm over here so I'm able to look and and we like you know just that moment of like we did it definitely my second question I thought of this bro I'm not I'm familiar with you more because of this pie but before this moment Morgan's bodyguard is you popped up in my head you don't have kids do you no okay you have a son right what do you believe this is something that you can pass on to you know I'm saying loose cousins whatever we try I've been trying to get may like recently um start counting money start coming with us break down some stuff it you don't of course you can't stay there because it's a club most of the time but like just help us some type of way because he he said he want to do it you know so just tap in.
SPEAKER_01Yeah y'all thrown recent events before yeah y'all had events that he was over right yeah those are ones where he's been involved a little bit with you know he's at the event and we're telling him set these games up do this and do that and you could tell he's confident in that he's very confident in those moments where he's setting up stuff or going around and checking the people at the door of like y'all need any water and like he does tap in in those moments but he has to be I need it to happen more often I want to start bringing him around he's 13 now and I remember being 13 and when you in the industry um 13 to somebody whose parents are teachers or something isn't the same 13 as somebody that's in the industry.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And so I'm okay with him coming and assisting with some other events that are adult events as long as they're appropriate.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But like an RB block party I wouldn't be mad at him being there um helping with certain things or whatever even if he's designated to just the inside of somewhere and refilling stuff but I want to get him more active in what I do.
SPEAKER_00Because that's how I feel I fell in love with it by watching my mama I I well first things first in my phone I got a list of people that I want to interview like she's on that list. Like it was you then it was her so I'm hoping I can complete the set that's kind of how I think of interviews like collectibles like I got the set but that being said we said I asked you earlier what your biggest goal is whether you decide to do this for another 30 years or you hit it big and make a quick hundred M's and like you know what y'all got it.
SPEAKER_01Leaving it y'all got it what do y'all want y'all lasting legacy to be as event planners, party promoters, event coordinators, things of that nature I want to be known for the space I create I think what's very unique with me is that I create a space where rather you're gay straight black white young old you feel safe that's important.
SPEAKER_00And that's legendary in St.
SPEAKER_01Louis yeah so that's one of the number one things but then also just the fact that we are risk takers innovators I've never done regular events. That's never been my thing. I'm not someone that's gonna want to do it every Friday not and not knocking them they probably make more money than I do to be honest. The people that are doing the club stuff and all of that um but that's not what I like. I just sat and told someone yesterday that I have to admit to myself that I think I have a big piece to do with um people being more willing to do very unique events here in St. Louis that wasn't really happening a few years ago. Hell no me doing things like an adult prom, adult Easter egg hunt hip hop orchestra things that were not being produced here in St.
SPEAKER_00Louis I think opened up the doors for um not saying it not saying I'm the reason but I just made it I think I made it more acceptable yes first things first she's modest I'll say she's the reason that Muggs is like and it's not a knock to them or nothing. You know what I'm saying because people get inspired by other things but nobody was throwing events like the ones that y'all are throwing nobody people all the events you throw people go to Atlanta and Houston and Dallas and Miami and Cali for these type of events and you brought it to St. Louis so nobody was throwing them type of events also sad boy I want to say this too while I got this going I done lost some potentials because you said y'all said earlier that's why like the girls be calling y'all I done lost some potentials at Sunday fun days hey some of them ladies be aggressive when they be going after like Jesus Wait what you mean you lost them to have it so it was uh it was a couple Sunday fun days I done came to um this tying into something but I want to get this out before I get to that it's a couple Sunday fun days I done came to and one of the biggest things I like about your events is that like I see people that I don't never see inside like if I go if I go to uh if I go to Bliss if I go to the ambassador any random hole in the wall I kind of bump into some of the same people right I come to this and damn near every time I come I see some girls that I be like where you like where where the we I ain't know we had these type of rare Pokemon around here I didn't know that like damn like I remember one of your joints it was a a mop this little like model lady that was there oh my god she was so cold but my thing is I sit up here I be talking to a couple of them whatever whatever I get the number whatever and then I you know what I'm saying I'm being cool I ain't finna hover around you the whole night just to you know make my connection keep it pushing keep it moving and man I look back up man salute to my dirty seat leak she ain't do this so don't she not in trouble or nothing but like I look up and it's like mans be and wood they be a great I'm talking about all over them and they just start cheesing and smile I'm like I lost her crazy I lost her million points for sure we are a trend right now so it was like yeah I was one of them smoking a cigar in that moment I'm like how did I lose to this no disrespect to that young lady I don't know who she is but I'm just like she smoking a cigar I know that motherfucker stink all the men smoking the cigar the stud or the thing was smoking I smoke cigar that's a that's a yeah cigarette no but a cigar hear me out right hear me out right it's gonna hit the same when you do it I tell you why it's your event these are vendors that your shit so it's kind of like even if that's something you actually do in your personal time it's like hey I'm showing solidarity with my vent it's kind of like this new trend that they got CEOs of companies actually eating the food that they make it's like yeah you're a vendor here so if you got yeah hookah I I always ask them I was like can I put a hookah in my thing because I'm if people see me doing it then they're the person who got the they want to feel important and all that and they see you rocking with a hookah hey let me get a hookah if you sitting up here got a cigar cutter and yeah even if you just lighted two puffs and this down back to running the show they got to see Morgan with a cigar hey the dance float dead hey to me the slide and roll out there and roll out there whatchamacallit not everybody so it's like hey if y'all see the people who threw it having some type of fun y'all gonna get they engage with it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah this situation like she just hurt don't screaming she just heard and my personal my personal logic is this obviously y'all are women but y'all sexual preference y'all like women and I'm like as a man y'all count as dudes because I can't like y'all cutting the ratio out that's gonna do better start asking us for advice that's a bit like I have yet on nobody but I'm just saying I done lost some potentials nah but like I do think yeah and we'll tell you she likes this I done I done lost some potentials it was never I be here all day telling that story but um damn where was I going with that the uh uh you were saying about like your events um that there is my producer how you doing that's my producer oh Western um but nah you were saying like you ain't every week in the club with it all that that's actually what makes your events special because it's like hey I'm throwing it you're gonna have to catch it while it's here if not one offs yeah one offs you're gonna have to wait hey I throw this adult prime night get it while it's hot because it ain't no telling when it's coming back if I throw this specific type of Sunday fun day stuff and growling it ain't been growing the house it's probably on the mic it's not it's it's not you know what I'm saying but that's what makes your events special and all that yeah it's not often you'll see me trying to do something back I tried it like once or twice and that's not even my crowd my crowd my crowd does not want to come out every week to my to myself um so yeah one offs is definitely my thing and that's why I had to tap into other cities too because even if it is an event that works really well and the money is good it doesn't make sense for me to keep doing it in St. Louis I have to in order to scale I have to go elsewhere right and do it on the rotation.
SPEAKER_00Definitely man well I appreciate y'all thank you for having me seriously man this here is uh I say all the time to anybody and just to myself I've been wanting to do a pie for a minute Morgan I've been in this is my fourth time attempting to do a podcast and this is the one time I was consistent at it two times it was under somebody else's banner and the first time it was just life hit and it stopped but of all of those iterations you are somebody that I've wanted to talk to get to well I already know you but kind of like see where you got these ideas and all that from man keep grinding keep shining I'ma stand behind y'all 10 toes because what y'all doing in this city is legendary.
SPEAKER_03Thank you.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? My producer just walked in like he never been to one of your events before uh the 314 day at the Hawthorne and even he was like damn she doing it like this and this nigga be everywhere every hole in the wall he be in city hall that nigga be everywhere nigga throw parties in church all of that and he was like damn she be she be jamming like this I'm like nigga yes she does man so that imposter syndrome thing we talked about earlier any any negativity you feel towards yourself I can't tell you how to feel but I tell you as a friend feel it and try to get over it as fast as possible. Morgan Casey is the queen of events in this city there is no if ands or maybes about that when you at the top of Lowe's whatever the hotel is stop and smell your roses a little bit smell This fresh air. Take a deep. You know what I'm saying? And be like, hey, I did this. In a city like St. Louis, where Muggs can't wait to shut them down and is always fighting and motherfuckers getting shot and all this dumb ass shit. Niggas know that when they pay for a ticket to a Morgan event, I'm going to have a good time. I'm going to be safe. I get to put that shit on. I get to see some new people. And I'm going to experience something that I've never experienced before, man.
SPEAKER_01So thank you. I appreciate that. And I'm proud of you. I want you to keep doing what you're doing. And I I I just I was randomly thinking about something. Didn't you help me last year during the tornado? Didn't you come and help me? Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's what actually made me like, that's when I found out Roe was a cool, like, cool. I ain't not say you wasn't cool, but it's like, it's like I just seen her. Yeah, I just seen her, but I'm like, oh, so this is what she likes with our shoulders now. You know what I'm saying? She ain't all like tensed up, like, but now knowing that you used to be a sheriff, I kind of see where that's coming from now.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, but I just I brought that up just to say, again, I appreciate and I love everything that you have uh supported me with. And I just I love you.
SPEAKER_00Girl, I love you too, man. I ain't saying that to be funny. I'm heart attack serious, man. Like, like I said, man, I I care about my city. I love my city. I get it, it's a crime-infested dustbar that you can die in if you're not careful, but it's still home for me. And anything that sheds a positive light on the city brings positive light to the city. I'm all for. It's a cheesy line, but I try to be the change that I want to see in the world. And in this particular case, just the city. So like I said, keep grinding, keep shining. Hey, um, Raging Rivers and Collin, wherever the other place is, Water Park, y'all some hoes. The dude at the city winery uh who stole my dirty uh gospel day party idea, first battle hall of fame, bitch ass nigga. Um and make sure whenever Morgan and Roe throw any event, no matter where it's at, St. Louis, Mississippi, New Orleans, Atlanta, the moon, Mars, the sun. Make sure you come through and support. You're gonna have a good time, you're gonna have a good event, you're gonna be safe. It's gonna be women there. Nice ones, with careers. That make money. They might be messy because you know they women, but but you know, they're gonna be there. You know what I'm saying? And it's gonna be an all-around great experience because it's the Morgan Casey experience. And for the Waymart experience, that's that. I can't thank these two ladies enough. Like I said, y'all could have been anywhere in the world, y'all could have gave anybody this motherfucking interview. You gave it to me, and I'll always be appreciated.
SPEAKER_01You got an exclusive first time we on the mic, the camera together.
SPEAKER_00That being said, this is another episode of the Wayne Martin Experience. I am your host, the one, the only Almighty PK Wayne Phillips. My man's behind the camera, my producer can't do it without shouting him out. The one, the only street status O Weston. The ladies to my right, daters and doers, movers and shakers, the heads of the Morgan Casey experience, Roe and Morgan Casey herself. Y'all be cool, how y'all be cool, and we out.