The Intuition Era

2. Best Friends for Over a Decade

• Emily Callahan & Miranda Gifford • Episode 2

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We’re taking it all the way back to the beginning—how we became friends over 10 years ago and somehow still made it through every version of life since! We talk about how our friendship has grown, shifted, and deepened through all the highs, lows, and everything in between!! 


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SPEAKER_01

Welcome back to the Intuition Era. I'm Emily. I'm Miranda. Today we are with you to talk about our friendship, how we became friends, why we decided to do this podcast together. Last last episode, we went into like who we are and um, you know, a little bit about our stories of how we ended up where we are today. Um, and today is all about me and my best friend. Stop it. Okay, so we what year was it? 2014. Okay, so it's been it's been 12 years. It's a long time that I've put up with you. I know. I know. Vice versa. Like I know, dude. I know. From the moment I met you, I was like, I'm gonna be attached at the hip to this woman. Like, I fucking love her. Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

You like truly rocked. I look I was in like a little bit of a culture shock the day you came into my dorm room. So okay, so the first day that I ever met, Emily.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

She was uh it was it was college, it was like the first week of college, right? It was weekends, so everybody had their doors op doors open in their dorms, like everybody was in each other's rooms, like just trying to like meet everybody. I remember like a wicked small town, right? Like, and I wanted to step outside my comfort zone. So I lived on campus and I wanted to have a random roommate, all of this, all of these things, you know, like normal shit. And in walks this like wicked drum girl falling over herself, like hi, I'm M Cal. She comes in, she wipes up, she writes on my whiteboard, and I'm just like, this girl, this girl. And I was like, I remember like my jaw was dropped, like I was sitting on my bed, I was talking to some people, and I was like, I I want to be friends with this girl. Oh my god, stop it. That's the perfect like college experience though. Like that was like the perfect, and then I don't know, I don't really know how it happened from there. Do you?

SPEAKER_01

I have no idea. But no, I mean, like in true Aries fashion, um, I had been, well, you know.

SPEAKER_00

But this whole like entourage, like following you. You were like, swear to God, every single person in your town went to that college. Oh my god, yeah. It was like Yeah. You had this whole and I was like, this girl's like the life of the party, and you just felt so comfortable in your own skin.

SPEAKER_01

Really? That's sweet. That's nice.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sure that you weren't. Like now that I know you. Yeah. I'm sure you were freaking out just like everybody else. Oh my god, yeah. That's totally totally.

SPEAKER_01

But well, do you mind if I share where we went to college? Does that or do you want to Oh no, go for it? Okay. So we went to the University of Maine at Orno and uh we lived in Gannett Hall. So shout out to our Gannett Hall buddies. We had so much fun living there. We were on the third floor. Oh my god, we loved it. So yeah, I'm also like from a small town, but like way bigger than what Miranda's small town is. Way bigger. Like maybe five times the size, I would imagine. And just in a different part of Maine. Like I'm from a more um populated part. She's from a more rural part of Maine. So definitely totally different vibes. And um, I knew a lot of people that were going to U Maine. So, you know, they called it like our second high school. It truly was. Yeah. And uh so it was really fun because I like I was like, okay, I'm safe. I have my community here. My people, like, you know, they got my back. Like, I have people I can run to if I need anything. I have people that I can hang out with if I have nobody to hang out with. And so yeah, it was really cool. But yeah, I mean, like in true Aries fashion, I just like stepped into her room and like took over the room and was like, what's up, everybody? Like, I want to be friends with this girl. Like, hello. And I don't really know why I was drunk. I'm pretty sure it was like a 4 p.m. on a maybe Sunday or something like that. Literally have no idea what that's about, but college was an interesting time.

SPEAKER_00

We did college right.

SPEAKER_01

What's that? We did college right. We had fun. We did do college right, yeah. Yeah. We messed around, you know, freshman year, sophomore year, and then we got serious junior year, senior year, and we were pretty much over drinking by the time we turned 21. Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We had a lot to figure out about ourselves, like 18 through 21, though. Like we had a lot going on.

SPEAKER_01

My God, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

As as everyone in that phase of their life does.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's a really underrated, massive transition into life.

SPEAKER_01

It is. And it's like you're a baby and you're an adult. And like, you know, when you become more of an adult, you realize how much of a baby you were and like the situations you were in. And you're like, oh my God, like, was that did I really do that? That's crazy. Yeah. So we were on the same floor. We were, I think there was like one room and then the common room that separated our rooms. Like we were literally on the same side of the hall, two doors down. And it was amazing. I don't even know what happened after that or how I think I just kept showing up. I think I just kept showing up in your room and I liked your energy. And uh I don't really even know. Like my freshman year roommate, like we hung out a little bit and then she kind of like went off and did her own thing. So I was alone a lot, uh, you know, when I was in the dorms. And so I had my third floor gamut people, and we all became like really, really close friends. Um, and so funny. So, you know, we go through freshman year of college, and Loranda and I are best friends, like we're super tight, and I have, you know, we have other friends as well. And like I have my friends from home coming to visit, and Miranda got to get looped into that crew like so early on, which was wicked fun. And uh Miranda also was on the swim team, D1 team. Barely, I was literally the slowest person on that swim team. Swim D1 in college, just you would say I was the doesn't matter, and she would cry every night. She'd be like, I have to go to swim in the morning.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, it was awful. It was awful. It was the worst. Imagine jumping into a pool at 5 a.m. and it's like snowing outside. Like it was the worst. I don't know how you did it. You survived why did I do that?

SPEAKER_01

Freshman year, right? You did the whole the whole year, yeah. Yeah, that was insane. I have no idea why you did that. You'd have to get up at like three and then like run in the snow, and then like get to the school, and then it was like freezing cold, and then you're like swimming, and then you come back and your hair's wet. Oh my god, it was just awful.

SPEAKER_00

It was a whole I was really intertorturing myself that year though.

SPEAKER_01

Like you were, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We all had those years, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So then freshman year went by, and then sophomore year, Miranda and I had decided to move in together, and so we were like, let's go find an apartment together. And uh, so it was me and Miranda, and then we ended up um also living with a girl on the swim team, and so that was really fun. And then the girl on the swim team had a friend from her hometown who was coming up to U Maine, and so she also lived with us. So we had the four of us in a little apartment, and that was like crazy and so silly and so fun. And then um, we had also freshman year become really good friends with this other group of girls who were on our floor, and uh turns out we were like move in day to our apartment, and turns out those girls are on the same floor of the apart the same building as us across the hall from us.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, dude. Insane. Out of I don't even know who lived in the other apartments next to us or across from us. I literally never saw them. Don't remember I I genuinely think they hated us because there's no way. Yeah, they definitely were like there's no did they even live there? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I well, and I one of the girls that we lived with, her brother ended up moving in across the hall eventually. And so like we did eventually know people, but we were okay, so the apartment complex we moved into had, I think, 30 buildings. And so in the 30 buildings, each building had three floors, and each floor had four apartments. Okay, so the the opportunity of this happening, so so rare. We were not only in the same building as these girls, we were on the same floor as them. Like, what are the odds of that? How fucking insane. So basically, we just had both of our apartment doors unlocked and we would go from door to door, door to door, every day.

SPEAKER_00

Slamming those doors. Those doors were so heavy.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, slamming them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Wreaking havoc on things. Yeah. So we lived there for two years, and then uh all of us, all what, seven of us girls? One, two, three, four, five, six. I think it was seven of us. Yeah. Um yeah, it was. And we all moved into um massive house. A massive house, yeah. Huge house.

SPEAKER_00

Like that had a bomb shelter, like it was built. It was like it was yeah, it was um the worst and best mistake we've ever like the decision. I wouldn't even call it a mistake because it was like the best time of our life looking back. But we were living there.

SPEAKER_01

The drama that ensued. Oh my god. Seven girls in one house, like seven girls and all of their boyfriends practically in one house.

SPEAKER_00

And all had different ways of doing things, and we all thought we were right. Yes, yep, yes.

SPEAKER_01

And there was a lot of Aries people living in that house. Really?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, I guess they're right. Yes. Throughout this podcast, you guys will hear me ask a bunch of questions because I do not know astrology, and I think that it's helpful. It's almost helpful that I don't know astrology. Yeah, because then I'm like, if we can educate, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I think there was one, two, three, four Aries in the house. One Gemini and no, two Geminis, and I don't remember the other person's birthday. So yeah, just a lot of energy in that house, man. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_00

A lot of strong personality.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. Also, Miranda's a Gemini. I love Geminis. And Geminis really misunderstood. They're so misunderstood. They're so misunderstood. And I think that's just because they can like fit in anywhere kind of thing, and like people are like confused by them.

SPEAKER_00

Very adaptable. Yeah. Very adaptable, yeah. That used to be something that I like really hated about myself.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know that. Yes. I Geminis have been hated on, bro. Like, I hate that. Like, that's so terrible. Yeah. Um, you know, except like there, you know, I do know a couple Geminis where I'm like, man, like you are living on the disempowered side of Gemini for sure. Like, that's definitely a thing. Like every sign has their own things where, you know, they could you can live out the empowered, you know, positive version of it, or you can live out the disempowered, really challenging version of it as well.

SPEAKER_00

I would be so interested to hear about the disempowered, and we can do like an episode on it and go deep. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. My ex is a disempowered Joseph.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, that makes so much sense. Okay, that's complete. Even just thinking about your ex, like that is I don't even need any more explanation.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right. Yeah. It's like it turns into manipulation and like will think that you're gonna be something else, then I don't know. We have to look that up. I gotta remember his birthday. I don't even remember his birthday. That's hysterical. That's how you know you're healed, baby. That's what you're gonna. I love that. I love that. Okay, so wait, back to us. Um, so we lived in this huge house with all of the girls. We also lived, we coincidentally ended up living across the street from a bunch of our guy friends, which was crazy. So, I mean, that was an interesting time. Really good way to say that. It was. Um, but you know, it's funny because like, like again, out of all of the streets and all of the little towns that we went to school, you know, like nearby, um, they could have lived anywhere. And they just so happened to live right next to us. So that was something.

SPEAKER_00

I think we would have that experience and meant to meet those people. I mean, some of them are still in our lives now, so yeah, yeah. I feel like that can be very rare too. You know, I've always had trouble like making girlfriends. Yeah, I had a really hard time in high school and elementary school and middle school. And I feel like that's a story that a lot of us have, right? Girls can be really mean, brutal. And I don't know why it's like that. Like I don't know why we're often pitted against each other. So walking into an environment where like I was loved on and like truly loved for who I was was so confusing to me and healing. Wow. And like heartbreaking all at once. Like, truly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, that's crazy. I mean, that gives me a lot of insight, honestly. Like, as much as I know about you, there's also so many things I don't know about you, you know what I mean? Like, and it's so interesting because like I've always like been blessed with girlfriends. Lots of challenges have come with those things, right? But you know, I've had lots of girlfriends, and so for me and you, like you were my day one in college. Like I was obsessed with you, and like I just wanted to be with you all the time. And I remember at times you being like, I need space. And I was like, wait, but I don't fucking get that. What do you mean? Like, literally, I was like, You're abandoning me. Like, but it's it's because that's those were the friendships that I grew up with that were like overly codependent and unhealthy. And so you had to learn how do I let love in. And I had to learn how do I trust that like I can let people go a little bit without freaking out and feeling abandoned by them. No, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Crazy. Okay, so we went from living to all together after college. Uh, I went to AmeriCorps and Criple C, the National Civilian Community Corps, um, which I'll share about that later on too. But I did like I served for one year in AmeriCorps. Crazy experience. And then I came and I was traveling throughout that time. So I was based out of Vicksburg, Mississippi. And then I was traveling around the the southeastern states in the US. And then I came home and did my master's at the University of Southern Maine and lived in Portland. Where were you during that time? You were getting your master's, right?

SPEAKER_00

No, that is when I was full-time life coaching and backpacking through Central America. Forgot that you did that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. Cause you finished your master's one year after we graduated. So I think that was like the year I was in America where you were getting your master's in childhood education.

SPEAKER_00

And human development.

SPEAKER_01

And human development. And then okay. So when I went to grad school, you were traveling and life coaching. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So and then after that, like we, I mean, we've, you know, moved multiple times and like lived in lots of different places or traveled a lot. And uh, you know, we've had a lot of different jobs and we've um remained in contact all of those years. I mean, so we had our four years of like living together. So that brings us to 2018. And then since then we've just been able to like stay in touch throughout living in different areas. And we've always visited each other and we've always um, you know, called each other whenever we needed to like talk something through or talk about, you know, like, okay, I have this weird feeling. Like, is this my intuition talking to me? Right.

SPEAKER_00

And so like weird feelings about each other. Like sometimes I'll call you and I'll be like, Hey, I've had this like nudge, like, are you good? And you're like, actually, no. Yeah, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. We're really connected in that way, like telepathically, psychically. And it's crazy because like I'll randomly think of you and you're like, dude, I'm really struggling, or I'm like, I was having a really good day, and I actually needed to hear that, you know, you're grateful for me, and that just adds to my really good day, or whatever it is. Like, so yeah, I mean, we've been connected in lots of ways over the years. And, you know, we talk like once every week or once every two weeks, usually, like on the regular for the past, I don't know, yeah. Seriously. Insane. So I'm just so grateful for you. Like, this is so fun. And, you know, Miranda is really the reason why I was like starting to explore my intuition more and more. Like, she started her life coaching business, and you know, seeing what she was posting online and like trying to understand what is a life coach. Like, I literally did not understand it until you were working in that realm. And like your experience really supported me in learning about myself, learning about my intuition, learning about angel numbers. Like, I learned so much from you from sharing online, from talking about it. And I feel like you've always been like my spiritual go-to girl who I'm like, okay, something weird happened, or I need assistance. Like, I need, you know, someone to talk to my spirit guides for me, or like I need someone to help me with figuring out what I just pulled on my tarot cards. Like, I'm calling you. I love that.

SPEAKER_00

And I like didn't even thank you for that. I didn't even know that I like needed to hear that. Uh, it can be so when I first started my business, and you know this from walking into Austral astrology, right? Like there can be so much stigma and so much judgment and so much fear around posting online, talking about the spirituality part, being vulnerable in a space like that, and it can get isolating. Yeah, it can get wicked isolating. Uh and pushing through that fear to like, no, this is important, is the why we are doing this podcast because we have so many in-depth conversations about manifestation, about intuition, about astrology, about, you know, hey, this happened to me. What does this mean? Yeah, this is happening in my body and it it's landing here in my chest, and I can't get rid of it. Like, what are some strategies that you use? We do that all the time. And I think, I think uh the online space has gotten so saturated and changed in so many ways. It's like I've been struggling with trying to figure out how to share my personal experiences and yours and and all of this knowledge that we've picked up by healing ourselves and truly leading others. How do we share that in such an an important way and a useful way? Which is why I I think this podcast, I mean, we I've been trying to do a podcast, you've been trying to do a podcast for so many so many years. It's been in our in our heads. And, you know, at one point we just said, fuck it, like let's go, let's do it. And that's so many of the decisions that like you and I both have had to make is like we think about it for so long, it sits in our body for so long. We have so much doubt and so much fear around it until eventually we just let it go and we say, fuck it, and let's do it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And like we'll talk about more about like collapsing time. And like I truly like teach my clients that is the the time that it takes as a human to have that intuitive nudge and then go through all of the really dense human emotions of fear and doubt and like any stigma that's attached to the decision that you want to do, to the actual action of like doing the thing, like that is what can be collapsed to make your manifestation come closer.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And faster.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. And I think like next episode we need to talk about like how, you know, what is our spiritual journey looked like, right? Like from seeing angel numbers, like from the jump, like what does that even mean? What is what does it mean to like what are spirit guides, right? Like what are, you know, what does manifestation even mean? What does like collapsing time mean? Right. Like there's so many little pockets of spiritual world that like we really need to dive into. Um, and I think it's so cool that we have this platform now that we can do this. And uh, you know, a lot of my personal growth and journey and understanding the spiritual realm and like how I've incorporated that into my life. It's been from going to psychics, from going to mediums to like going to life coaches. But a lot of what I've learned has been through podcasts, through like learning from other life coaches, learning from other therapists, learning from other people who are just interested in the self-development world and learning from them every week of like, you know, here's what their guest has to say. Here's what they have learned on their own personal journey, and then figuring out how do I incorporate that. So, you know, I'm hoping that this podcast can be that for our listeners, can be a space where people um feel like they can connect with us with our authenticity and hoping that we can connect um, you know, their experiences to our experiences and to validate them, you know, on this journey and like on the human experience for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Me too. Yeah. Okay, well, we're we're gonna end here today. And um, next time we come back, we'll talk more about the spiritual world. I can't wait. We'll go back to the basic. Yes, I love it. Okay, we'll see you soon. Bye.

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Emily Callahan

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Miranda Gifford

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