5. Life as a Psychic Medium, Ft. Hannah from Healing with Hannah

This week, we're sitting down with Hannah from Healing with Hannah—a psychic medium and Reiki Master/Teacher who helps people connect with their loved ones on the other side!!

We chat about all things mediumship, intuition, energy healing, and the signs that spirit may be sending our way. Hannah shares her journey into discovering her gifts, stories from her work as a medium, answers some of our biggest questions, and offers insight into how we can all become more connected to our own intuition. We also discuss what a typical reading is like, common misconceptions about mediumship, setting energetic boundaries, and how to navigate skepticism while staying true to your own experiences.

If you've ever been curious about what happens after we die, how mediumship works, whether your loved ones are still around, or how to strengthen your own intuition, this episode is for you. ✨🤍

Healing with Hannah: Hannah’s Website, Hannah’s Instagram

Medium Referenced: The Squamish Medium

Book Reference: “The Art of Psychic Reiki” by Lisa Campion

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

We're two friends who spend way too much time trying to make sense of literally everything.

SPEAKER_02 0:04

We have a lot of conversations that start with, wait, am I overthinking this? And end with no. Because that actually feels like a sign. So we figured we should probably just stop talking about it in private. Welcome to the intuition era. Welcome to the intuition era. I'm Emily and Miranda. And today we're here with Hannah from Healing with Hannah. And she's going to chat with us about her journey in mediumship. She is a psychic medium, a Reiki master, and has worked in lots of different areas of the spiritual world. She's located in Portland, Maine. And I'm gonna hand it over to Hannah to introduce herself.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Hi. Hi. So excited to be here.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Oh my god, so excited to have you.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

I was so excited when you had reached out. I was thinking about it on my drive here when you had reached out. That day was so significant too. I just was like, spirit always has a plan. So I was just so grateful that that was like the day and the moment because I really, really needed that. But yeah, I'm so excited. I'm a psychic medium, a Reiki master teacher, based in Portland Main, like you said. I work a lot of grief-centered work. Um, it's really connecting people with their loved ones on the other side. That is the core of my work. That is what I feel I've been placed on this earth to do. Um, and the Reiki masterpiece kind of came along the journey secondhand. So that's also been really fun to explore and have spirit step into sessions and have both the psychic mediumship side of me and the Reiki work come together. So I'm just really grateful, really excited. I don't have the best intro, but like that's basically me. You hit it all at once. Oh no. That's no girl, I think you killed that.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

I already have like so many questions for you, but I will I will hold off and let you just talk.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

But then I'm always here for questions though. I'm like, here, I'm here and I let spirit kind of lead, but I love the questions.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Everyone's so interested.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

So good. And I'm like, maybe we can get into like if you want to, what was going on that day eventually, because I know like we were kind of talking about like what's something you're trusting your intuition was. So we'll get to that at the end. But yeah, um, I'm just curious, like, could you share with us like how did you get into mediumship and like what mediumship is all about for you?

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Yeah, totally. So for me, it honestly was my own grief journey that I experienced through my life. I uh had always been sensing spirit, sensing energy since I was a little girl, which is why I think it's come so naturally to me once I kind of accepted that this is what I can do. But I really found a lot of comfort and closure within my own healing and grief journey, seeking out mediums. I had gone to therapy, I had done all of that, I was really young when it happened. My first significant loss was my aunt when I was eight years old. It was like three days after Christmas. It was horrible. And I feel like that was kind of like the start of my spiritual awakening of leaning into the Greek journey. It started really early for me. And then as I just continued, more people passed away. I lost my nanny, lost my Nina, lost my pa. Just kind of continued to happen. Um, a lot of people that impacted me as a human, I lost. And my mom's side of her family's all passed away. So death and grief have been a part of my life since I was little. And I used to watch Teresa Caputo, The Long Island Medium, with my grandma, my nan. I love that show. I love it. I just saw her a couple, I think it was last weekend. She was here. And I was like, Are you kidding? Oh, yeah. It was good. You literally was crying. No, I saw her. I wish I met her. I watched her work, it was really beautiful. She did like a group reading, and there was like, I don't know how many people were there. I don't know how she did it, but it was so cool. It just was like a full circle moment because she was the reason why I started looking into mediums, and now I got to go as a working medium in the area to watch her work. So that was super cool. But yeah, Gree kind of just like changed the trajectory of my entire life. And I leaned into mediums for support. My mom leaned into mediums, and along the way, more and more experiences kept happening to me. Spirit was coming around me. I go to different places, spirit would come to me. I couldn't ignore it anymore. I was in college, I was studying to be a psych major, addiction studies. I had my bachelor's degree, and I said, once I finish my degree, I'll kind of lean into the work, this work. And sure enough, as soon as I got my degree, spirit's like, here we go, time to get working. So I just started mentoring and training, and that's kind of like long story long how I got here. But grief was what started this journey for me. Me walking alongside my grief and seeking out other mediums for my own healing and wanting to provide that to other people in return, too.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Oh, oh my God, yeah. We're sharing that. I'm so sorry about all of the loss in your life. Um, but it's also like what a beautiful testament to, you know, who they were in your life and who they still are in your life, right? That like their losses led you to this journey of like helping other people to connect to the other side and to heal through connecting with the other side.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Yeah. It's always like that thing, like spirits get a bigger plan. They can always see more than we can see. So it was really about just kind of like blind faith and trusting that my people on the other side were still gonna continue to guide me. They were gonna send me my signs. I was having dreams and visions. So I was able to firsthand experience it. So it's nice to be able to pro provide that now for everyone else. And I think that that's just a huge part of my calling is just to serve this community that we can't all we all experience grief, right? We can't escape that. That's something that we're all going to go through at some point in time. So being able to hold someone's hand and bring through their loved one is just it means so much to me. So I'm just so grateful to spirit. I'm so grateful for my loved ones just guiding me and bringing me here and meeting people like you.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

So I love that.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Can you you touched on how you have kind of like had these experiences since like you were little? Tell me what that felt like for you.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

It was honestly super scary, not gonna lie. I feel like the first time I felt spirit was when I was like four years old, three or four. I was in my family home that ended up we ended up moving, but this part of the house was the old part of the house. So there was like the addition downstairs, but my bedroom is part of the old, like the original house. And I remember just always laying in bed, and as I was getting ready to fall asleep, I would just feel a presence. And I'm a feeler, that's how my gifts come in. I feel like here I know. Those are my big three. Spirits sometimes will show me like an image really quickly, but my strongest gifts are feeling. And I feel like that started right off the bat when I was three or four, and I would just feel this presence in my room. And I went and I told my mom, like I could feel someone, someone's here, and she's like, okay. But as I got older, she did some more research, and we actually found out that someone did die in the house. Wow. So I never really got like any information about who it was. I just knew that there was someone here, and it was always when I was getting ready for bed and in my room. It wasn't in any other part of the house. Um, my mom sometimes would get this like sensation that someone was sitting on her bed and she would think it's me, but no one was there. So she also has a little bit of abilities as well. And I think we both were kind of just picking up like intuitive hits of there's someone in this place, and that's kind of just how everything's been for me. But then I got scared and I shut it off because I was like, this is scary. And then my aunt died, and I thought I had a dream, but now I know it was definitely a vision, a visitation of her. Um, and she came into my room, she was dressed in all yellow, she was glowing, and she was like the best version of herself. She didn't say anything to me, she just looked at me and she smiled. And as soon as I kind of came to, she was gone. And those were kind of like the early days of okay, spirit showing up for me. I'm feeling something here. But yeah, that was when I was like three or four, that was the first kind of like spooky experience that I had. But like I said, I was scared. So I kind of just turned it off. But yeah, here we are.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

Wow, that was just incredible. Okay, wait. I have so many questions. Me too.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

I like such a talker. I'm so sorry. I just I'm like blah, blah, blah. I talk so much. No, no, stop me if you need to stop me.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

It's so good. And also like stop us if we ask too many questions and get too off. Because I am I already am like I'm bursting. I just want to like ask so many questions. You go first, Sam.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Okay, no, Hannah, you're doing amazing, and this is so perfect and exactly what we want to hear. Um, and I also want to clarify for the listeners. So when you're referring to spirit, is that you referring to source energy, God, the universe?

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Is that your own so I like to say spirit? Um, it's been an interesting journey for me because I'm Catholic, which has been also kind of this like push and shove of like you can't do this. This is the devil, believe in God. But I always just say higher power, source, universe, spirit, whatever you kind of want to believe. But when I talk about spirit, a lot of the time I'm talking about loved ones coming forward. Um we talk about guides, you hear me talk about angels, but then a lot of the time when I'm saying spirit, I'm either talking about source or sometimes I'm talking about someone's loved one as well. But I typically refer to like God or universe, kind of depending on the crowd. But I am Catholic, so I grew up in faith, believing in God and all of that. And I feel like that's kind of been, oddly enough, a huge part of my journey too, of like blending the two. But I've had my fair share of people from my past disagreeing with what I do. But I feel that when I talk about spirit, I'm talking about source divine energy, but also loved ones on the other side.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Okay, thank you. That's so helpful. And we need to talk about you being Catholic and how this has been integrated into your life. That's so fascinating. I had no idea. But jumping back really fast, like I'm kind of curious, like if you could speak to like spirits being in a house. Like if someone dies in that room in the house, does their spirit stay in the house? Like, or how does that work? Is that dependent upon the soul?

SPEAKER_00 9:41

Dependent upon the soul, yeah. I tell a lot of people a lot of the time, if it's like a quick, tragic, unexpected death where they weren't ready to die, or there's like fear involved, they kind of can stay stuck a little bit and they kind of stay stuck on this like plane that we're operating on because we're like here. And then spirit is just like the next step up. They're not that far away from us. It's kind of just like tuning in like a radio frequency to that next kind of frequency to connect with spirit. But sometimes when there's a quick tragic death, they don't want to go. Sometimes they don't kind of want to walk over to the other side. Sometimes they don't want to accept that they died. Um, and sometimes they're really if it's someone's house and they live there for a long time, a lot of the time they just feel comfortable staying there. But I like to say not everyone stays stuck. They do have the choice to kind of go. But some some souls, it just takes them a little bit more of a push to go over to the light and to the other side. They can still visit the house, they can still come back, but some people do have a harder time kind of accepting the fact that they've passed because it's almost like this confusion of it happened so quickly, it was so unexpected. Um, I've gone into certain places where I have felt kind of stuck souls that are just like not ready to go. Um, I had gone to a local business around here. There were like weird stuffs happening, like things are getting thrown, people are feeling things. So I went in and there were two souls there. One of them was super easy to kind of just gently guide out and say, go to the light. You don't have to stay here. You're able to go to the other side to the light. He was fine. Um, but then there was like a younger girl who did not want to go. She didn't want me to push her, she didn't want me to push her to the light. She was kind of comfortable where she was. Um, and it was a learning experience for me to be like, I don't, I have to meet them where they're at. If they don't want to go, they don't have to go to the light. They can stay where they are. And she seemed pretty comfortable staying where she was. Um, and when we looked into the history, it ended up being part of like the Great Portland fire. So it had been like 150 years that girl had kind of just been hanging around and no one had really talked to her or said anything. And I'd been lighting my Palo Santo and I felt like that irritated her a little bit. But once I did my research, I realized the fire was probably the way that she passed. So the fire was like scary and triggering for her. So the next time I went in, I did a whole different thing because I was like, I'm so sorry. Did not mean to upset you because the activity ended up picking up after I went the first time because I think I upset her. Um, but then we kind of like built this relationship and she was like, I'm good. We felt her kind of leave and transition. The room got lighter, which is another way to know if it worked. It's not as like heavy and dense. You'll feel that lightness move. But then sometimes she would still come hang around and just like say hello. So it really depends on the soul what they want to do, but we're not here to force them out anywhere. That's something I had to learn.

unknown 12:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

Maybe, but like, so she like was able to go to the light, which means that she was like, Okay, I don't need to be stuck on earth in this thing. I can actually like go to the other side, connect with the other side. And then when when souls are like on the other side, which is you know, maybe like heaven-ish, like for people who don't understand what the other side means, is like yeah, heaven.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Um, a lot of people, I just say the other side because again, not everyone kind of believes in heaven and that, but for most of us, it would be kind of like heaven, the light, just where all the souls kind of gather and be. And even from like the Catholic religion of when they talk about purgatory and like the stuck souls, I kind of refer to that of like when they're kind of stuck here, like hanging out here, that feels a little bit more like purgatory in terms. I don't see it as this like secondary land or this like total in-between. It's more like they're stuck here on the physical plane. But when we go to the other side, it's like higher enlightenment, consciousness, happiness. We're not feeling all of these human emotions. And so when they're still kind of stuck to a building, they're operating at a little bit of a lower vibration compared to when we cross over and it's a more enlightenment and higher vibe. So it's it's really interesting. This is kind of also what I've been learning, Spirit's been showing me. So this is all from my own experience, spirit teaching me, showing me like kind of how the process goes. Obviously, I'm not gonna know all the answers until I get to the other side. But this has just been my experience with them and what they've kind of shown me along the way.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Okay, so one more and then I'll let Miranda ask a question. So, okay, so you said that like she can like come pop back in. So, like, let's she like leaves, goes to the light, she's in this higher vibration. Then she has the option to like pop in whenever she wants to instead of being there all the time.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

Yeah, and it's just like when we're calling in our loved ones and spirit to like come into our space and come be here. It's the same thing. Like I said, like we're here on this plane, they're like a half a step above, like they're really not that far away. And she can pop back whenever she wants. This was a place that she lived, so I think that that was also another piece of like, yes, she died here. Yeah, she died with her mom here, but this was a happy place with memories for her, and that's why sometimes souls do stay in homes, just because they're like, This is mine, like I don't want anyone else kind of living here. But she was she was cool. She came back, she was soft throwing things, stopped being loud. The girls were like, Yeah, it feels a lot better in here. So it was an interesting experience with her, but she was young too, she was a younger girl, so I feel like the younger ones can be a little bit more fresh, they could be a little tougher to handle, but yeah, so crazy.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

So crazy. I love that that you were able to like go and use your gift, like somewhere where people were probably like fairly freaked out, and then you were able to like understand and explain for this isn't this isn't something we need to be afraid of. Like, this is kind of like a they're confused, like, why are you in my space? And you guys are trying to operate as normal without even seeing her running around or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Yeah, I'm like, she's just trying to get your attention, she's not scary, she's not trying to do any harm, but it's hard to explain that to people when like shoes are getting thrown, doors are getting slammed, and those are just all experiences of a soul trying to get your attention. I don't say to be fearful of any of that, it's just like like the light flickers on, the TV turns on, the doors slams. It's just a way for them to try to get our attention. And I mean, she's been there for she had been there for a long time. So I'm sure she just was like, hey, I'm here too. This is my space, which is kind of what I felt with her as I kept moving. But there were people that were scared. So it was a nice educational way to ease away their fear, but also teach them that she's not here to cause any harm. Like this is her space too, and we have to respect that. Okay, wait, one more. Sorry, Miranda, but I'm like, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

Why, why do they so like why did she want to get someone's attention? Why does that happen? Like, why do like we get freaked out about it on this side, right? Because we're like, oh my god, the light's flickering and there's no reason why, or the door slams. Like, what are they trying to say to us? Is that just like totally dependent on the soul and like where they're at?

SPEAKER_00 16:16

Yeah, a lot of the time it's kind of like what they're looking for, but I always tell people it's just like a little hello, like, hey, it's me, I'm here, I'm around. Sometimes, like I've had experiences with my grandma where an ornament on our tree, we were like sitting in our living room, and her special ornament, she had already passed away. It was her favorite ornament, it was on her tree. We were sitting there, and the ornament got thrown across the room, and we all were like, Okay, we see you, Nan. Hello. So it's all it's also about like acknowledging, like, hey, you're here, I see you, I love you. And a lot of the time it's just like hello, kind of acknowledge me piece. So I always tell them just acknowledge who's here, say hello, you're welcome here, I see you. Um, but if you're scared, I also tell people, tell them to stop scaring me. Just kind of gently say, like, I see you, I respect you, but please stop spooking me because we gotta set boundaries with them too. And if you're scared, you gotta let them know and they'll listen to you. So yeah, it's a lot of the time it's just like, hey, hello, I'm here. But if something's like going on, you're thinking about them, you're thinking about a like light change or shift, and you're kind of wondering if they're around, sometimes they'll just make something happen to be like, I'm here, I'm with you, I love you, and I'm guiding you.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

So cool.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yeah, so amazing.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

I have a lot of questions too. Go for it, girl. Okay, so I was under the assumption um that we as people who are physically on this earth, right, have the control to either like like have people out of our physical physical space. And what you just said was that like they are free to come back or they are free to like just like pop in.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

For people that are like deeply like clients that do not want spirits in their space. How does that work?

SPEAKER_00 17:53

That's where kind of coming back to like what I was talking about, letting them know, like, hey, I see you, I love you, but you're not, you're not welcome here. And you just we just talk to them like I would talk to you, set a boundary with you. It's the same way, we just can't see them. And that was something that I had to work on with that little girl as well in that space. I just was like, people are scared. If you want to come back here, they're cool with it, but stop growing stuff, stop making stuff happen because it's scaring them and it completely stops. So it's really kind of just setting the boundary of saying, This is my space, this is no longer yours, and please move on.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

Yeah. Basically. Have you ever had an experience where they like don't listen to you? Or have is that just like not a thing?

SPEAKER_00 18:30

I would say that the younger girl that I was talking about earlier wasn't listening to me the first time, but that was because I was trying to push her to do something she wasn't ready to do. And there was also this like imbalance of they weren't wanting her completely gone. Um, it was just kind of like slowed down with the activity. But again, with the fire when I was lighting the Apalo Santo, totally freaked her out. And I think that that kind of made her a little bit more resistant to me because she did not listen to what I said. She totally did not, if anything, it picked up after I left because she was pretty irritated with what I did. And I hadn't experienced that yet. But a lot of the time, that was probably the only instance that that's happened. And afterwards, when I went in a little bit more trauma informed about her experience, it got easier. Um, but yeah, like if I feel spirit in my room, which happens often before sessions, like the night before, sometimes like their loved ones will come to me and I'm like, you gotta go, like come back nine to five tomorrow, get out. But I I'm trying to sleep, and they they always move. So most of the time they listen. Um, I would just say that that experience with the younger girl, I had a little bit more resistance with her.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Yeah. And is that how you shut it off when you were younger too? You were just like, I don't want this, so I'm not open to it.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Like, get out. I was like, please stop. And things like that stopped, right? Like it totally stopped. Yeah, things stopped happening. I think it was like the fear. Like, and spirit can also recognize when we're fearful. So when I'm like, I'm scared, please stop. They they totally do because they're not here to scare us, they're not here to inflict fear. So if they're doing anything that's causing fear, they're gonna take that step back. Um, but that's exactly how I turned it off when I was young because I was like, I don't want to see this, I'm scared, please stop. And it was quiet for a long period of time until I experienced the loss of my nanny. And she's strong, she's a spiritual girl. So I feel like her passing, things just started happening like instant. So I couldn't even ignore it, but I felt more comfort in it because it was someone that I knew and I wasn't freaked out about this random soul that I was feeling in my bedroom. So that helped me connect a little bit more with that, and it's just continued to grow. But she's my guide. I really feel like she's the one that's kind of got me here. So with her passing, that's what kind of kicked everything back off with my gifts and my abilities.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Wow. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Yeah, I like that it's like a it was a safer opening for you, you know, like um you had to like really have that energy kind of like compound in you. Like, okay, now I'm I'm cracking the door open to my in it was your nanny. Yeah, my nanny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So um, I love that for you. And I think that the fear comes with, you know, there's so many stories, like ghost stories about evil spirits and what they had and they can harm you and they can possess you, and and being I was also raised Catholic, um, and exorcisms and all.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Oh, you know, they inflict that fear on you. They inflict the fear, it's all fear-based.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Yeah, it truly is, yeah. But I love what you said about the density and the of human emotion, right? And the enlightenment and the happiness, because I do believe that it is my belief, and it like I know that other people have different opinions, but I do believe that when we go back to the collective or to heaven or to whatever you want to call it, that those human emotions that make us dense and keep us here, like guilt, shame, fear, we don't experience those because they are part of the human experience, right? So to in order to like yeah, so I I had to really, really unwire the like story of bad spirits. And now I kind of like don't believe that there are bad spirits because they don't have those dead. Against human emotions. And I'm wondering, is that me just like trying to be unafraid, or is that actually like truth in your experience?

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Yeah, I feel it's interesting because I have with light there's dark, right? And I do believe that I have kind of encountered those lower vibrational kind of spirits, not often, but it was going to certain areas that were just kind of lower frequency and they were more irritated. They were a little bit more angry. Um, but a lot of them are that look like when you pass and you go to the other side and you choose to go to the light, all of that's taken away from you. You're the best version of yourself. I always tell my clients, like they are the best versions of themselves. That's how you should see them. They're not sick, they're not scared, they don't have fear, they don't have their demons that maybe were a part of them. A lot of people come in with people that have like recovery issues and substance use. And this is something that they'll come back to speak about about I should have done things differently, but I don't have these fears anymore. I don't have this stuff with me. But I have experienced only a few times a little bit of that kind of lower vibration. They weren't reaching out to harm me, but they I didn't feel that they were that same love and light energy that I typically had experienced. But talking about the rewiring of these stories that were told, a lot of that is just fear-based. Yes, there is kind of more lower vibrational energies, and I think it's good to be aware of that, but most of the time, the ones that during tattering day to day and like in their homes, like they're not, they're not that energy. But yeah, I did have like one spooky experience when I was in college, but I was unaware and stupid and shouldn't have gone. So I was asking for it when I went and I learned my lesson. So we'll not do that again.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Yeah. What is your advice, or like how can somebody, if we are feeling like a low vibration or we put ourselves in a scary situation, like how do we protect or cleanse or like I don't know the right word here, but like what are what are the steps? Like, what are things that we can do? Do we reach out to a medium? Like, what do we need to do?

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Yeah, so typically I would advise you to kind of cleanse and clear your energy. One of the easiest ways to do this is to get in the shower and envision the water as yellow, white, light, just washing the energy off of you. If you have sage, Palo Santo, kind of just like cleansing the energy away, saying anything that's attached to me, light goes away. Whatever energy is attached to me that's not mine, please leave. And if you're still kind of feeling like, like I don't feel like I fully got it, I feel weird. I would suggest going to like an energy worker, someone that kind of is like a little bit more um experienced with moving and clearing energy away. But a lot of the time with like the sage and the smoke and all of that, that'll kind of get that energy away. Um, but then I also kind of say it's like odd because they talk about, you know, like rebuking like the dark spirits and the dark souls. And I almost like have to go back to some of like my Catholic religious roots of like, I'm here for love and light. Like the dark can't come near me. You are not welcome here. And kind of just repeating these things over and over to myself. If you want to pray and that's part of your thing, pray. Just say, like, I'm here with the light, I'm not here for the dark, I'm here with God. This is who I believe in, and that typically can move the energy away. But I definitely suggest cleansing your energy with Palo Santo, getting in the shower, washing it away, or making an appointment with a medium or an energy worker that can kind of help with that energy. I've only had a couple of attachments, which is good, but I had to go see someone to kind of just like move some things away. They weren't dark, but they just were hanging around with me and I couldn't get them to leave me alone.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Girl, that was my next question is like, how do you meet so many souls, right? And you're working with them and they don't attach to you, right? Especially the ones that like kind of like don't want to leave, right? And I'm thinking about like the 13-year-old Miranda who was doing a Ouija board and like for sure probably shouldn't have been doing that. Oh, I don't know, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

Yeah. So I with my one-on-one sessions and with the people that come in, the loved ones come in with their people and then they leave with their people. A lot of the time it's very easy and natural, like spirit knows what to do. But the only couple of times that things have attached to me is when I'm going to certain areas that have like an energy stuck at the bar or like a park or the lighthouse. Like that's where I kind of was like picking up energy. And I didn't know that it was happening because I was so I was young at the time. I just didn't understand that that was something that I needed to protect myself from. So it took a lot of trial and error to realize I need to protect my energy. So a lot of the time I just before I go anywhere, I get in my like a little scuba suit, and I just, it's all the way up and I just envision that I'm protected, nothing can attach to me. But I have to make a mindful effort to do that every single time I go somewhere, just so nothing does attach. And now it's a lot easier for me to be like, okay, someone's hanging around me, I can kind of deal with it on my own. Or if it's a little bit more of a stubborn energy, do I go to someone else? And I do have someone that I know in the area who is really wonderful. She works a little bit more with like deities and attachments and all of that. So she's really helped me, um, but also has kind of been on my butt to be like, you need to protect yourself because it's so easy to have happen, especially within this work. Um, so the protection piece has gotten a lot stronger for me. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

How do you know if like you feel like there's an energy around you that you just like can't shake? And like, how do you know that it's like not that you are like super depressed or anxious or that you're having a really bad day? Like, how do you tell the difference between your own and then someone else's negative energy that's around you?

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Usually it's pretty quick. Usually I'm pretty in tune with my energy and how I feel and what my energy feels like, especially when I'm feeling depressed or I'm feeling anxious. I know how that feels in my body. So once I kind of start feeling like a sound feeler, so I can feel presence around me. And if I feel like I just have someone here and they're not listening to me, and I'm having a lot of the time, it's just like sad and depression and anxiety. That's like really the emotions that I start to feel. And I have my own stuff with that as a human, but I feel like I've gotten really clear about what that feels like when it's mine versus when it's like someone else else almost like inflicting it. And usually, sometimes it takes me about a day or so. If I can't really like shake it off, then I know that someone's kind of following me around. But a lot of the time, um, I'll get like really bad headaches or migraines. It feels like my third eye is like blocked and like foggy. It's almost like someone's like attaching to my third eye. I mean, that's another way that I've kind of them, okay, there's someone here I need to shake. But yeah, it's really about listening to myself and my gut as well, my intuition about okay, is this mine or is this someone else's? And usually I can once I ask that, I can have that discernment of okay, this isn't my stuff. This is not how it normally feels in my body. This is definitely someone else.

SPEAKER_03 28:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

But it hasn't been happening recently. I'm gonna like knock on wood somewhere. I'm like, I'm gonna say that and then I'm gonna leave and then something's gonna happen. But yeah, it it can be tricky.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Okay, wait, I want to know. Okay, so speaking about your intuition, I'm also like curious about like how have you trusted your intuition on this journey and like how have you learned to like amplify your intuition? And then I'm also curious, do you feel like you like anywhere you go, you like are catching spirits? You know, you said when people come in, their spirit comes in, you know, the spirit that's hanging out with them or whatever if loved ones, their family like comes in with them. Is that super clear to you, like sitting here now, or is that something that you would just have to like kind of tap into and it's not as like clear as people think?

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Yeah, so I have really strict boundaries with spirit because of that exact reason. I used to go out and I would say, like, my antenna, my green light was on. So they were like beep, beep beep, like I'm here, I'm all around. And it became really overwhelming for me. So I do have to like tune up and like almost like turn on, if that makes sense. Of I'm getting ready for a session. I start talking about the client that's coming in, their name. And I just say, these loved ones, please step forward into this space, walk in with your loved one. And that's typically how I'll start feeling things. But there have been times, especially early on in the journey, of I didn't know to do that. So I was just out here wide open for any spirit or soul to step forward. And it was just really overwhelming. I was getting really drained. That's when souls were coming to me at night. I wasn't able to sleep. So my mentor was actually the one that was like, you need to have boundaries, you need to turn it on, you need to turn it off. And like that's a really clear distinction that not everyone understands. People think I'm just like sitting here like all day long, just like talking to spirits, and like I can just see your loved one standing behind you all the time. Like, no, if I'm not tuned up, I'm not, I'm not on the clock, is what I tell people. I'm like, I'm not on the clock, I'm not working. Um, but sometimes if I go to a land or an area that's really charged with something, I like can't ignore it. Um, and that's something that happened. I went to Fort Williams Park. I don't, you guys must be familiar with that room area. But I'm from Maine, and for whatever reason, I thought the Portland headline was just like the Portland headlight. I didn't understand that Fort Williams Park was also a part of it. I learned quickly, but I was there with my husband, and I remember we got out of the car and I started walking and I got really dizzy. I call it having a Wednesday, like Wednesday Adams, when she like has that like dizzy and like falls down. That's when I'm like, spirit is really strong. That started to happen. And the more that we walked towards the headlight, I just kept saying, like, many men died here, many men died here. And I just that's all I could say. And as we continued to walk, my husband found this plaque and it just basically described that lots of men had died here on this day. I can't even remember what the event was, but it actually was two days. We were there two days before the anniversary of that event. So I that was just like an experience that was kind of like spooky. Um, I thought I had like turned it off enough, but like just being there, I the energy was so charged because of the emotion and the grief that was tied to that land that was getting ready to almost like have that anniversary in two days. So my husband was like, My God, you're gonna freak out when you see this. He was totally spooked. But yeah, we were it was like two days away. So I was like, wow, okay. So that's like an example of even though I try my best to turn it off and I'm pretty good with it. Sometimes I can't help it. Some I can't go into antique shops. That place makes me fall over and pass out. It is so charged with energy and other people's stuff, it's just too much for me. And some mediums love to go do it. I personally can't. I can't breathe. I just like cannot do it. So yeah, I'm like, I feel like I got off track with that question. No, that's great.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

So tell us about antiques. Like, what is it? Are spirits they stay with their dresser or it's kind of just like they charge energy of like this is their stuff.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

So it's almost like this like collection base of like energies. I call it like a funnel and a tunnel, kind of like of energy and their stuff. And they're not always like tied to the specific object, but sometimes they are. And like I said, sometimes people are just like so, what's the word? They're like so connected to their stuff, their space, that they sometimes don't always want to go over to the other side. They kind of want to like hang out here and be with the stuff, which is why I always say cleanse your antique objects if you bring them home because you don't know who or what you're bringing home with you. Um, but it just feels like a fun, it's almost like I'm like stepping into a portal of literally energy and spirit. And it's not just one, it's many. Um, like I can't, I cannot do it. But my friend's medium and she loves it. She's like, I love doing that because I could feel all of that. And I'm like, good for you. I just can't. Like, it's too much, it's way too much. So yeah. Okay, tell us how to cleanse.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

What that?

SPEAKER_00 33:11

What? Tell us how to cleanse. So I use Palo Santo. You can use sage if you want, but I like using Palo Santo just because of kind of like ethnicity stuff, and I don't always I don't want to be disrespectful. So, and it also burns a lot better, the Palo Santo. So I just take the object in my hand and I just kind of go over it three times to smoke, and I just say I'm clearing this object of any people, energy, spirits that are connected to this, kind of similar to how you would do it on yourself. And sometimes I give it Reiki as well. Emily, I know I don't know we if we went over that in Reiki one, but Reiki 2 is about cleansing and charging objects. So sometimes I'll give it Reiki to kind of just like cleanse the object as well if I feel like it's really still dense. But I always use Palo Santo, I feel like that's the best way to get things moving. Sometimes you can open a window too, especially if you're feeling like a soul in your space, but I don't always do that. People will come for me saying that, but the spirits still get out even if I don't have a window open. But yeah, Palo Santo, sage, a feather. If you have like a little feather, you can kind of just move the smoke around. But that's how I like to do it. I don't collect often though. I only have a couple pieces, and I am like, I'm all set with that.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Yeah, yeah. I don't, I know that like sage and polisato, I know that it cleanses. For some reason, for me, when we talk about spirits and mediumship and souls being connected to an item, I immediately think like you need a unicorn to cleanse it or you need a like a ritual, like a fire day, like what I don't know. I just think like you need magic to be able to like do it. Yeah, and that's so like that's on me. You know what I mean? Like that's so outside of my own body and outside of like just so disconnected. Like you.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

I mean, like it's easier than you think though. Like, honestly, like the say it, like it honestly can do that. It can move. It's not like this people a lot of people think that though. Like, it's not just you. I feel like everyone's kind of like, I need this like big hoopla, this big ritual. Sometimes I'll grab crystals, but like honestly, if you got sage and you got Pala Santo and you have the intention, because the intention is the most important part. The intention is to clear the object to get the soul out of the space, that's what's gonna move it the most. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

So yeah, thank you for that.

SPEAKER_00 35:18

That's so helpful.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so intention is everything. I love that, and I feel like that just you know, really sets the tone for like every day, right? Even when you're like putting on when you're talking about protecting yourself, like your scuba suit, like that's a visualization and an intention of like I'm putting this on, it is protecting me. And so I think that like we really like undervalue the power of intention. And like when we ask spirits to leave, right? Like we're asking them to leave. That's the intention. That's the intention. They're understanding that just because we don't necessarily give it the power that it deserves doesn't mean that it's not moving things in the universe.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

Totally. Yeah, yeah. Intention is everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

Like the what you just said about like even though you may not fully give it the power it deserves, it's still going to work. Because my next question for you is I instead of a scuba suit, I use like like a clear bubble amongst like of white light surrounding me. And like no one can get through this, and I am protected, and like this is mine. Like, yes, I'm not I'm not accepting anything right now. And that has been really hard for me to like fully believe in. And I thought that because if I don't fully believe, or if I have a even like the slightest doubt that like something could get in, even though I don't want it. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 36:43

Totally, totally. And the bubble, the shield, the scuba suit, it's all the same kind of energy of like keeping this is mine, this is yours, nothing can come in to my energy field. I feel like the belief in the intention is really what kind of like it's almost like the power duo. Even if you're having a little bit of doubt, it's it's still gonna work because you're saying that intention out loud. But I think it's almost this like blind faith of like trusting in something that we can't see, trusting in the intention that what I say, what I communicate, the intention is all that I need. So I just tell people the best that you can believe, even if you can't see what's happening, spirits around, spirits listening, and they're here to help. But it's not gonna like totally throw off everything if you have like a little bit of doubt. It's about, I feel like it's not gonna work if you don't do it, if that makes sense, if you don't visualize the bubble, if you don't have that intention. So yeah, it's so working, girl. I mean, we all have to we all have that like doubt. It's so it's such a tricky thing, and it's such a human, it's like the human mind wanting to like overcompensate for like the spiritual and the intuition side. I feel like sometimes we can have the human mind just like take over a little bit, but yeah, we gotta try a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

Going in totally feel like they clash, they completely clash, they do, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

They're like fighting, they're like this doesn't make logical sense, but like we don't always need logic.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Like we don't always have to have it. Do you find that in your maybe when you were like honing your skills, right? Did you find that that happened within your readings? Like, were you kind of like seeing these visions or like hearing this? You said that you like are really strong with feelings or like feeling these feelings, and you kind of like doubted the ability. Like, how did that happen?

SPEAKER_00 38:18

Oh my god, the doubt was like honestly the hardest part for me was to just get out of my own way. And my mentor just like kept telling me, he's like, You are like literally the only thing blocking this. Like, you have all the tools, you have it, you just need to believe that you can do it. And I think that that's also something that people underestimate in this journey of like the self-doubt is so loud because we're so human. Like, I'm still human, I still have my doubts, I have my fears, and I think that's where the discernment of what is mine versus what is spirit has really helped me, but also just throwing myself into it and being like, okay, I'm throwing it all caution out the window. Whatever comes through me is directly from spirit. And every single time I'm saying whatever spirit's telling me to say, I know that this is from them. And the more that I did it, and the more I know it sounds bad, but like the reassurance and the yeses that I was getting from my sitter helped me believe a little bit more. But the self-doubt was honestly the hardest part, like getting out of my own way, and I still I still feel that way. Like I don't feel like the fear and the doubt ever fully goes away. Um, but I just know that spirit always shows up for me, spirit's always gonna be there, and who am I to doubt? Spirit. So that's kind of like how I shifted gears of like, why why would I doubt spirit? Um, and that in return helps me with my own self-doubt. But that was definitely such a hard part of my journey. It wasn't even learning how to do it and learning how to control it. It was the doubt and the fear.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Yeah. How did you hone your skills? How what has your journey looked like when you decided, like, okay, I'm going to become a professional medium? Like, I'm gonna do this for work time and like you really need to be able to like have this, you know, like skill, this intuition. This I need to really be able to call on it immediately and be able to provide a reading for a client.

SPEAKER_00 40:05

Yeah. So I started with card readings. Um, and that was kind of like working on the intuition. I was almost like working, it's like I'm working the muscle because the more you work it, the more you practice, the stronger it's gonna get. Um, and that was kind of like my first dive into that. I was doing readings for my friends in college. Sometimes I was just like knowing all of these things without any explanation, and that was a way for me to kind of get clear about how I like to work as a medium. I feel I hear, I know. Those are my three strong fields. And then I started having loved ones that I didn't know in this life, but I knew a little bit about starting to come to me and guide me into certain different directions. And that's when I would like talk to my mom about these things that were coming up, and she was kind of surprised because she was like, I don't know how you won't know all of that. Um, but yeah, this is like your great grandma. So it was like those like little like instances that were happening, and I was like, okay, I need to learn how to do this. So I went to a like development circle class one night. It was like beginner-friendly. I had no idea what the heck I was signing up for, but I was like, I feel like I need to be here. Um, and I went and they were kind of just talking about auras and sun saying and how spirit is feeling different within each person. And then we did a practice reading. I was scared and I ended up getting partnered with the medium who was running it, and her dad actually came through to me. I started saying all of these things, and she at the end validated them all, but also said that I was only the second person that had been able to channel her dad. So that gave kind of gave me like a confidence boost of like, okay, I'm feeling something here, I'm getting it. So let me take it to the next step. And then I sought out my first mentor who was kind of like back in the Bangor area, and she just kind of helped me through the basics. How does energy feel? How does it sense within your body? How do you work with your gifts? And then I went to the next step and I studied with um a medium that I really respect. I value him, I love him. I sought him out for my own readings, and he kind of gave me how to go through a reading. What's the step? How do you open? How do you clear? How do you sit with a client and how do you go through the steps? It was like the opening, sensing and feeling spirit, the evidence, the conversation. And he kind of just made it more normalized of like you're literally just having a conversation with them. It's nothing crazy. Like you're just talking to them like we're talking right now. And the way that he kind of brought it down on more like a human level of like, okay, I'm literally just talking to these people that we can't see. He gave me the steps to kind of set up perfectly for how to do a one-on-one reading. I also feel like my background with psychology helped me a lot sitting with the client, how to hold space. I have my like little trauma-informed care toolbox that helped me guide the client through the session as well. Cause it's like it's two things all at once. You're the medium, you're channeling their loved ones, but you're also holding their grief. You're holding them in this vulnerable space. And I feel like that's not always talked about within this work of you need to be able to do both.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

And luckily, my background, I just naturally was able to do that. But I feel like if we can't hold the space for the client and their emotions and their grief in this vulnerable state, it just kind of can offset everything else. It's great to get the evidence and all of that. But if you're not able to help them in that current moment and hold them, it can be a little bit difficult. So that's when I just started meshing with the two. I started doing free readings for all of my friends and family, and I did that for a pretty long time. And then once I was like, okay, I think I can do this, the spot like opened up and they were like, We want you here, we want you to run into space. And I just trusted it. I trusted my gut, I trusted spirit, and that's kind of how we got here. Um, this is my second space, but that was like the first space, and I still was working full-time. I was trying to do both, but then I was learning this is a lot to do, full time work and this part time. So as I continued to grow, spirit kind of just let the full time job go. And they're like, It's time for you to kind of expand and step into this. And that's how I'm here full time, but it was really a lot of trusting my gut, trusting intuition that I'm getting this right, people are. Showing up, this is my path. And even if I let go of this stability of my full-time job, they're gonna be right here holding me.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

So okay. And uh can you speak to that about your intuition? That was the the question that I had asked you earlier that we kind of skipped over. Like, how have you had to trust your intuition on this journey? And like, what does it mean to you to trust your intuition?

SPEAKER_00 44:20

I feel like the whole time has been like this like trusting my intuition, trusting the feelings that I've been getting. Um, a lot of it I see when I'm sitting with clients of like I have to trust the information that's coming to me. I have to trust the evidence. Sometimes there's like pieces of evidence that I feel are so weird or like off the wall, and I almost don't say it, but then I say it and it ends up being the most like prominent piece of the entire reading. Um like the thing, like the thing. Like that's it. Like that's what like stuck with them. It's like this random like piece of like bubblegum, or I'm talking about like the patch of smokes that they have, and it's just like so off the wall. And like to me, human-wise, when I try to analyze it, it doesn't really make sense. But when I'm trusting, okay, my gut, spirit, they're letting me know this is what needs to be said, it's they burst into tears, right? This is like the piece that means so much to them. But in terms of the journey in my gifts, I just trusted that spirit was gonna guide me. My nanny specifically, I feel like I put a lot of faith in her to just be like, get me into the right room, guide me in this path. But I also have learned how something feels in my body. So when I feel like something's a yes versus when something's like a no, when I feel restricted and kind of like I'm on the fence about it, I'm learning that that's kind of just like a no within my body or not yet, versus when I'm feeling open and expansive. That's a yes. And I was kind of just leaning into that piece of it. Um, but then also leaning into my abilities and how I like to work. Like I feel like the feeling and the knowing it's just so strong. It like comes through my body. Like there's just like no other, I can't do anything else but this. Um I feel like this entire journey has just been like trusting my intuition, trusting it when I had to leave my full-time job. Like that was that was really scary. I was big on foundations and stability and money, all the things that the human piece of us thinks about. Um, but I knew in my gut that I couldn't keep going the way that I was going. Like this was not sustainable for me anymore. And spirit put me here for a reason. And I need to trust that even if I can't see everything right out in front of me, I can still take the steps forward and still get to the end. And I think that's another important piece of like you don't have to see the whole plan and the exact end game and how it's gonna look in order to move forward and trust yourself. And I feel like I just even with the mentorship, it was professional working mediums on that second mentorship. I had no business honestly being in that class. I really didn't, but I was like, I like to sound surround myself with the best of the best, and I like to throw myself into things, and that's how I learn. So I was like, I'm gonna do this. And I don't care. I love I love Donic, I love him, I trust him, and I know that this is where I need to be. And here we are. So I'm like, I just have been able to watch slowly the decisions that I've made and listening to myself expand me so much farther into this path in my business and just life in general.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

It's really cool. Thank you for sharing that. And like I'm curious, like, is there anything that you're trusting your intuition on right now that's like something specific that's been on your mind? Or is there, I mean, I because I know you're trusting your intuition in lots of ways on a daily basis, but is there something big that feels kind of scary for you that you're trying to figure out that you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_00 47:22

Yeah, I feel right now I'm really trusting myself with expansion. Again, we go through these phases of like growing. I'm like the little working medium, I'm practicing. I studied for years and years and years and years, just practicing. And then I kind of had to step out again and be like, okay, I'm gonna do this professionally, step out again, go more full-time. But right now, I have been feeling very called to do more larger groups, kind of um group gallery readings instead of just doing the one-on-ones, which one-on-ones I love because I'm comfortable. I feel safe. This is what I've been doing for so long. But spirits like almost kicking me out of the nest to be like, you need to get in front of more people, do more teachings and trainings. I'm a Reiki master teacher, so I really feel like doing more Reiki trainings has been on my mind, having a bigger space. These have been things I've been thinking about. And recently I just was like, okay, I need to I need to at least look at a new space that I can hold these events in. And a space popped up, and I was like, okay, let me just go look at it. Let me not put I don't want to put pressure on it because I'm good where I'm at. I'm grateful where I'm at. But I just felt like I needed to go look at the space. And before I could even get to the space, that appointment date, I found out the current building that I'm in is being sold. But I had no idea when I had reached out to this woman being like, hey, I'm kind of interested. I would like to come in. It was two days before I was supposed to go. Spirit was almost like, you can't stay here, you have to go. You have to grow. So that I'm planning to move into this new space, trusting that this is gonna be where I need to be. But that's kind of been what's on my mind really heavily with my intuition about trusting it. But it's so funny. Like, that's just a great example of listening to your gut and intuition. Like, I felt like this was a space I needed to at least look at and be a part of. And then come to find out two days before I go, my current building's being sold. Like, I don't have this option anymore. I have to go. And that's how my guides and spirit work with me. If I don't listen, they're like going to kick me out until I do what they say. So yeah, I'm really trusting that spirit will guide me in this expansion, but also with the group readings. It's so scary. I'm like, I'm it's very vulnerable. This work is vulnerable, but being in front of like 10 to 15 people, it's a lot. It's a lot of energy to hold. But spirit has continued to show up for me. And I've been able to learn, okay, this is a little bit different from one-on-one, but spirit's my teacher. Spirit's my agent, is also what I say. They give me the right clients, they give me the people that need to be here, um, and they get me into the right places. So I'm really just trusting that this expansion, the more group readings, the larger kind of gatherings and the teaching role, instead of just being this one-on-one medium where I've just been comfortable doing that. That's kind of where I'm trusting a little bit harder right now.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 49:55

Yeah. That is unreal. It was crazy. I was like, oh my gosh. Even I still get surprised. I obviously I've talked this whole time. I trust, I believe, but they still blow me away. I'm like, wow, you really, you really want me to get out of here? Like, there's no other option. So it's just so crazy. They never cease to amaze me.

SPEAKER_01 50:13

So we were just talking about in our last podcast, we were talking about um coincidences and we don't believe in them and we believe in signs and we believe that things happen for a reason. And I call it divine intervention. Like if you're asking for this expansion, they're gonna show it to you and they're gonna push you out and they're gonna do it. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. I love that so much. And it was interesting that you talked about vulnerability because that was one of the questions that I wanted to ask you is, you know, as you step into the mediumship and as you started doing readings, and for our listeners who are, I call it like spiritually curious, you know, like um they're just starting out on their progress, they're just starting out on their like journey, whatever you want to call it, how do you handle judgment or handle people that may be critics or skeptics, or even just like letting your family know that this is what you're going to do, especially coming from a religious background. Um, yeah, how did that happen for you?

SPEAKER_00 51:07

Yeah, the banning stuff was a lot easier than I thought it was going to be. I think it's because my mom had also my mom's heavily Catholic. That's where the Catholic piece comes in. But I feel with all of the loss that she experienced in her life, and we went to go see the same medium, couple mediums before. So she had kind of like dipped her toes in a little bit. And even though the priest was like, You're doing devil work, she was kind of like, whatever. So there's a lot of pride from her. I think I think my dad was a little skeptic. I hope my dad doesn't listen to this. There was a piece of him that was like, Can you do this? I don't feel like it was necessarily can like spirit communicate, but more of like, this is something that I can do. Um, and it's been a fun journey for me to kind of just have my dad be on. Um, and just he's been able to see the expansion. I've been able to show him the signs. His parents have been the more recent passings in my life and in my adult life. So when his mom passed away, my Nina, I started seeing blue jays everywhere. And I was like, Dad, I I think the blue jays are Nina. Like, and I had no idea that he had also been seeing blue jays, but he's like, No, there's a blue jay that comes to my window every single morning. Um, and I had no idea about that. But I was like, there's a blue jay that follows me too. Like, I think it's her. So that was like a nice, like, little entryway for my dad to be like, okay, there's something going on here. And now he's fully supporting, fully on board with everything. But I also love the skeptics, I have to say. I I do love it. Um, they used to make me a little bit anxious because I was like, I felt like I had to prove myself. Um, but that's something that I've been working on of like, I don't need to prove myself. I am plenty as I am. And that's where like when the evidence comes in, and those like heavy hitters of like, there's no way I could have possibly Googled, looked, any of that stuff that they like to kind of say, like, you can just Google my name and find out all that stuff. I love seeing that light switch go off because it's such a life-changing experience. I mean, when you're kind of not believing in anything beyond this life, I feel like that's can be heavy and depressing and sad to view it in that way. So when you see that light switch go off of like, oh my god, this is actually real and my loved one is with me, like they're not, there's so life beyond here. I love I love when that switch happens. The judgment piece I still struggle with, and I think that that comes more from being so on social media and online and posting about what I do. I get a little bit more pushback from strangers. And I try to laugh it off and be like, whatever, you know, love and light to your journey. But I'm human too, so it can be difficult when I get hurtful comments or people saying I followed the devil and all of this stuff. It can still hurt, but I know that I know my intention, I know my integrity, I know what I'm here to do. And if that's what they believe, that's their belief. But I know what I believe, and I'm comfortable in my faith and my spirituality and how I connect. So I always just come back to that. Then I just send them kind of light and I'm like, they're just in this kind of fear-based mindset, and I hope that someday they see the light, but I can't force them. But yeah, I've had to really get comfortable with putting myself out there in that way because not everyone believes in what I do, and that's okay. They don't have to, but I do like when the skeptics come in, specifically like the husbands or the men. I get a couple of them that are like, I don't know about this girl, but then they leave and there's so much lighter, you can feel it. It feels like a weight's been lifted off them. It's just it's beautiful. So I I love that.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

It's incredible. I'm like so excited. And also, like, so Hannah, you're doing the gallery readings and I'm actually going to see you in a couple wait, tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

Are you going to the California? Yes.

unknown 54:29

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

I'm so excited. And I'm like, I I bought two tickets because I was like, obviously, someone's gonna want to go with me. And like I was like, let me ask my boyfriend if he'll go with me. Oh he's like, you know, he's he's always I've sent him to Reiki once, and like he's like, you know, he's down to like check it out, and like, you know, he just like giggles at me for being so witchy and like you know, spiritual world, and but he loves it at the same time. It's like he's like dipping his toe in, like, really curious about it. So I was like, Hey, will you go with me to Hannah's gallery reading? And he was like, Yeah, I'll go. And so yeah, I'm just like so pumped. He's never been to a medium or a psychic, and like just the experience, I think it's gonna be really cool. So I just wanted to say, like, plug that in there, like so pumped.

SPEAKER_00 55:14

Oh my god, I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Everyone should go amazing to your other events as well. And I know we're like coming to the end of our time, but I have like three burning questions. I'm like, is it okay if we if I ask you these? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Dreams versus visitations. Can you just quickly speak to that?

SPEAKER_00 55:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So visitations for me is so interesting because I'm not a big dreamer. Okay. I don't have a lot of dreams. I've never been a dreamer. Um, but typically when the dreams come in, I know that it's a message from spirit. The visitations piece of it. I've only had a couple, which people seem to think I would have more, but I just haven't. I've had my aunt visit me and I've had my Nina visit me. And a lot of the time, I just it's like me staring at them and they're not saying much. Sometimes they say a couple of things, but a lot of the time I tell people if they're kind of just like looking there, looking their best, kind of glowing, even if they don't say anything, it's a little visit. And a lot of the time you'll wake up and you'll feel like, oh my god, that was so real. It's almost like you have to trust that that was a visit. But I have people that come in and they their loved ones will validate like I came to them in a dream, I visited them, and that just like connects it for them. Like I already felt like it was a visit, but I needed them to say it to me. So the dreams and vestitations is like a fine line because honestly, when we're in that REM state of mind, it's easier for spirit to come to us. We're not in the human, we're not thinking, we're not da-da-da-da. Throughout the day, we're in this relaxed state of mind, our mind is turned off, and it's just an easier way for them to get to us. Um, but a lot of the time you're gonna wake up feeling like it was literally real, like they were right there. And I just tell people to trust it. And if you're dreaming of your loved ones, it's a visit, especially loved ones on the other side. So I've only had a couple had a couple of times, two of the times they didn't say anything to me. And then the third time I remember being like, Are you really here? Like, is everyone else seeing you? And they were like, Yeah, and I'm like, what the heck is going on? And then they were hanging out, they were happy, they were laughing, and then they just walked away and they were gone. And I remember I woke up and I was like crying because I was like, Oh my god, that was so real. But I remember being like, Can everyone else like see you? Or is this just like me? So yeah, it's a very fine line, but I say, if a loved one is visiting you in a dream, that it is a visitation. So they don't always have to have all these words, sometimes it's just their presence so you can see them. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

Okay, I just have to throw in here because I never mentioned this to you, Hannah. But like one of our best friends in college died a couple of years ago, and that, you know, was like earth-shattering for me and like just really shifted my perspective and like helped me to tap into like my spiritual side a lot more. But I had a dream of and that he visited me in a dream once, and literally in the dream, kind of similar to what you're saying, like we were all just like sitting down at a table and he like you know had his food. I don't know where we were, but he like walked up and he like sat down, he like kind of like gave me a little side hug and like kissed me on the cheek. And I was like, wait, what the fuck are you doing here? Like, what's the uh yeah? And he was like, yo, like you need to chill out, like you are doing way too much, it's not that big of a deal. Like everyone's good, everything's good. And I'm sitting there shook, everyone around us is like totally acting like normal. Yeah, like it's not a big deal, Em. Like, just let it be what it is.

unknown 58:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:33

So crazy. And I was like, okay, he's with me all the time.

SPEAKER_00 58:35

Yeah, I just like we're cognizant, like they're they pass in our dream. Like we're like with it enough to know. Like, okay, why are you here? Yeah, same thing with me. Everyone was out else, was like, we're good, like you're acting like a freak right now. But I was like, no, seriously, he's drinking his Budweiser, like he always drinks. Like, I don't get it. Like you are dead. Like, I I just was so shook. So I love that you had that too. Such a similar experience. It's powerful too. And you wake up and you're like, wow, they are here, they are with me, they are listening. It's it's just so beautiful. It's so powerful.

SPEAKER_01 59:07

I had a I don't usually dream either, like ever. Yeah. Um, and when I do, it's like not really real. But I did remember that I had I did have one dream, and it's just like so stuck in my brain because it had like a smell with it too. My grandfather passed. Yeah, it was so crazy. My grandfather passed, and it we were just the dream itself didn't make sense, but he was sitting there and I gave him a hug, and I remember waking up smelling his scent. Like I could smell it, and I was like, wait, what the fuck just happened? Like, why can I smell in a dream? Like that was so it was so crazy to me. And I it's just like stuck. It's like stuck in my brain. And every time that we talk about this stuff, it's I'm like, that was so such a significant experience that I know it had to be real.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

Yeah, and you like, especially for us non-dreamers of like, even if I do dream, I don't remember it. I feel like, but those dreams, I'm like, no, I know exactly what they were wearing, I know exactly what I was doing. It's like almost like, how can how can this be? So I love that. And the scent, that's interesting because sometimes Spirit does do that. They'll like have a smell of scent. Sometimes I'll smell like my nanny's like cool blue cigarettes, and I'm like, girl, please. Like, I don't like this smell, but I know it's cute. Some people smell their perfume, and it's just like another like little hello from Spirit way to communicate. So that's so cool. You could smell it in your dream. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:27

First and only time that's ever happened to me. Wow. So unique, and I don't know why. I don't know what he needed. I don't, I don't know, but it was strong enough that I was like, this means something. That's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:39

That's super cool. Oh my god, I love that. Okay, wait. Next two questions, because I don't want us to like, you know, sorry, listeners, this is a really long one, but like there's so much good stuff here, and I feel like we could talk to you forever, Hannah. But I'm like, okay, I need a little brief synopsis about like just what is it, you know, like what I've learned in the spiritual world is that like we are souls and we reincarnate into different bodies in different lifetimes, and like, you know, that time doesn't exist on the soul side of things. So, like that girl who died in the fire in Portland, like that was 150 years ago or whatever it was, but it's like she was still hanging out because time doesn't make sense on the other side. So I'm just kind of curious, like, you know, following the Catholic faith and like thinking about dying or reincarnation, or like I know that it's like very complicated, but I'm kind of curious, like, what's your quick take on that? On like being Catholic and like, do you believe in reincarnation or like what are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:40

Yeah, I totally totally believe in reincarnation. I don't have a lot of experience of like what spirit's kind of shown me with that. Um, but I definitely believe in reincarnation. I believe that every soul has a contract with another soul. So sometimes they talk about um, I don't know if you've heard this, but like your like cat or your dog was like your child in one lifetime, similar things like that. So I do believe that souls will come into body or the human experience the way that they're supposed to. Sometimes people have lived many lives. You can go do like the past life regression, and there's like all of this stuff, which I find super cool. I would love to get more into it. Um, but I just don't have a ton of experience with like what that looks like. But sometimes people are like on their first lives too. But I totally believe in reincarnation. I totally believe that we come back if we have the power though. We like choose when we're on the other side. Like, do we want to come back? Do we want to stay for a little bit? But yeah, I believe in it. I feel like the Catholic Catholic faith can be a little weird about it. But then we talk about for people that are Catholic, like you go and they talk about how the body and the blood become like Jesus' body and the blood, like the bread and the wine. And I just feel like it's almost like it's like so similar of like what we're all talking about. We're just using different words and we don't have the fear behind it. But when we're talking about like bread, we're talking about wine turning into body and blood. I don't see how it's like any different from reincarnation, calling things in, ritual. It's like the Catholic faith is rooted in so much like rituals, like that's what it's surrounded around. They talk about Jesus being a Gnostic and a mystic, like there's so much there. Mary Magdalene, I could go all day long. Yes. It's just they try to push away some of those things, but then we talk about Jesus coming back, like coming back to light into his body. Like how? Like, how does that even happen if we can't believe in something another side? Pieces like that. So I know that was a long way around it, but totally believe in reincarnation, super cool. Past life regression sessions are also really cool to look into as well. Yeah. To figure out how many lives we've had.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:40

Have you done that? Have you gone to a session?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:43

I have not, but I had someone tell me they were like doing energy work on me and they were kind of into that world. Um, and they were talking about how my past life wasn't too long ago, but I was I was like died because of my fate and my spirituality and like this mystic piece, and that I'm here to kind of heal that part of me. Um, which was like so interesting because it kind of made sense. I was like, that does make sense. Um, not saying like I was a Salem Witch burn at the stake, but kind of energy of like I passed and died because of how like the mystic that I was, and I'm back here to kind of heal that piece of me, which is super cool. Um, but that's like the only kind of experience that I've had with it. So super cool and super powerful. I was like, wow, it hit me right in the soul. Like that's how I knew that it was true because it like wrung truth so true for me. I was like, this just like feels right. It didn't feel like made up, but it was very much like you died because of your faith and your mystic sit the mystic piece of you um and your spirituality. So wow, I wonder, I wonder, and I've always been drawn to like the saints that were more mystic, like Marie Faustina, Joan of Arc. You look back and they were more mystic than maybe some of the other saints. So I feel like I've always just been drawn to the spooky, witchy, mystical world of things, even within my faith. So I think that's so amazing.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:02

Okay, I'm already like, we need to have you back, Hannah. Like, we need to round of this. Like, and I just I need to know more about like I also if you have any um people that you would like trust or recommend who do past life regressions that you know of, send them my way and we can you know put those in the notes as well. Totally, because I've totally been looking into that as well for myself and have also heard like you know, there's karma that comes with our astrological chart as well, and like where our placements are and what that speaks to about our past lives, and there's like so many different connections. Yeah, but that's fascinating, like and that makes so much sense. Like the fact that you, you know, maybe like that you've had this experience of like I died because of my faith, and now here I am bridging the two worlds of like Catholicism and being in a medium and being in the spiritual world, and like having to hold both of those, like it it must be challenging, right? Like you if you could just choose to give up one of them, then like life would be a lot more simple. But for some reason, you were placed here. To have this, like, I'm gonna hold both and like tell people that that's possible and take, you know, certain things from both of those things and use them to help my soul to heal and grow and to help other souls. I mean, so many people you've helped, Hannah. Like, you know, it's just like insane what this gift has done for the world, for your community, for your friends, for your family, for your clients. Like, it's really amazing. And do you need to ask you before you leave, what would you recommend, or like what advice would you give to someone who is working on their connection with the other side or their connection with intuition? What would you recommend to do or like to look into or any books or anything like that that you have on the top of mind?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:42

Yeah, I think building a relationship with spirit is probably like the first piece. You don't have to be a medium to connect with the other sides in your loved ones. I think that that's like a misconception of like, oh, I have to go see a medium to like connect with my loved one on the other side, but that's like not true. You can ask them to send a cardinal, send a bee, send a bird. Um, and I think just building that relationship with spirit, source, whatever you want to call it, is kind of like the first step. That's where I also started leaning into my intuition a little bit more. I would not just ask for show me a sign. I would say, send me a green car, send me an orange car if XYZ. And then I was kind of just waiting and letting the signs come to me. Um, and so that's kind of like the first step of just like starting to slowly build a relationship with spirit, universe, higher power, um, but also love your own loved ones. I also think pulling cards and like journaling about what you're feeling with the card that pulls up is a really fun way to kind of lean into um your intuition a little bit. So before you look at like what the meaning is, what are you picking up with the card? Because yes, we have the books that we can follow, but a lot of the time the information that you're getting isn't always gonna be directly from the book. And I think that that was like a nice little piece for me to kind of dabble my way in was through pulling a card a day, pulling a card for my friends, getting in front of a beginner development circle, kind of what I talked about with my journey of like finding a place that just has a circle and you can just sit and be and like be in this space with people that are learning and experiencing these things. I think community is so important with this work too, because it can feel like an isolating, lonely journey and getting around people that believe the same things or working towards the same goals, but also having a teacher that can guide you, that's kind of the next step. I feel we can only get so far without having a mentor or a teacher. You can do it. I'm not saying you can't, um, but I feel like everything accelerated with me once I took that next step and I got a teacher and mentors. I recommend if you're looking, I think we talked about this, Emily, um, for like mediumship beginner stuff. If you look at the squamish medium, she's online. I think that's her Instagram, Danielle Sarank. I've studied under her. Um, she has like this Vault membership thing where it has all of these teachings from like colors and sensing and intuition and all the clairs, and it's like self-study, and they have pet communication too, because that's also a little bit different. And she's really a wonderful teacher. I love the way that she works, but it's also self-study. So if you have the financial ability, I do recommend maybe if this is something you want to do, getting in with that membership so you can kind of do that self-study. But there's also a whole community of people where you can do practice readings on, and it's like less pressure because you're like, okay, I don't have to worry about it because I'm not sitting here in front of a random person that's paying me money or my family. Like, I'm working with someone that's working towards the same goal, they're supporting me, I'm supporting them. And it's such a supportive community, and I feel that that really helped me as well. So I recommend Danielle Storank, the Squamish Media, her kind of membership, trying to think of some books. I'm not a big reader, so that's why I'm such I learn visually. So I feel like I can read, but then I'm like, I'm not wholly processing it. I have to like see what's happening, which is why I do kind of more of those self-study the videos. I recommend her if you're interested in like healing energy work. I think it's called like the psychic Reiki book. That's another way to kind of combine the two, but I definitely would find a circle, a group that is doing the same thing. Sometimes it's at like crystal shops. I don't know if there's many around here. That's something I'm trying to like get off the ground with the new space, hopefully. But yeah, I feel like that's just like a really great starting point.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:10

Thank you. That's awesome. Thank you so much. And we'll link that all in the show notes as well. And I'm wondering, like, Miranda, do you have any like final words, questions, thoughts that you want to share?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:20

I do not. I think that this was so helpful and you have so much knowledge. And I do believe that, I mean, that just makes I was just like really resonated with the past life thing because I think as I was listening to you talk about like how you've had so much trust and intuition towards your journey, like that makes so much sense to me because like it was all you've already had the foundation almost in your in your past life. You know what I mean? Like I think that it was it's that strong for you for a reason. Um that's just so beautiful. It's so beautiful. I do have a question I want to ask about your gift. You know, like if you believe that this is something that is that people have, like certain people have, or do you think that it's something that um a mass amount of us have that we just haven't tapped into, or if there's blocking, like what do you think?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:10

We all can do it. I think that's also like another thing. Everyone just thinks it's like you're born with it, and like you are just like this is your path. We all can lean into it, we all can tap into it. I do think that some people it can come a little bit more natural for them, um, which I found in my journey when I was working with like all the professional working mediums for years, and that was like my only second mentorship. I found it came pretty natural to me. And as I've gone on and learned about it, I feel like this has just always been a part of me. But we all can do it. This is something, this is not just like shut off to certain people within the world. We all can learn, we can all, we can all do it. And it starts with the intuition and then going and doing kind of like the the mentorships, the teachings, the circles, and just learning what it looks like for you because my journey and my gifts aren't gonna look the same as yours. You're I'm not gonna get information the same way that you're gonna get information, which is what makes the world so beautiful. We all can do it, we all have our strengths. You might be a more visual person than I am, right? You might get more of I see a physical person standing here, or I get all these colors, I get all these visions versus me where I'm more of like a feeler. And I think that that's what's really cool. You can kind of learn to work with your stronger clears and your abilities, but we all can do it. So definitely don't count yourself out. I always tell people this is not just God gave me this gift and I'm like one of the many few. No, we all can do it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:29

So cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:29

Thank you. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:31

Yeah, this was amazing. Thank you so much, Hannah. And people can find you on your website, right? And on social media. We'll link those in the show notes as well. And um, do you want to share like what are you offering right now? The gallery readings and what else?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:44

The gallery readings, um, yeah, I'm getting ready to do more of those. Still a little nerve-wracking. I'm excited you're gonna be there tomorrow. Gonna be nervous, so I need your energy. It's gonna be fun. So crowd meeting. Um I'm really excited. But yeah, I offer one-on-one sessions for mediumship sessions, so I'm still doing one-on-one so you can come and get a session with me. Um, I also offer Reiki sessions. Um sometimes I do combo, so you can get like a mediumship reading and then get Reiki afterwards, which is really nice. It it holds you, it comforts you. And then I do offer card reading. Um, I'm starting to not do that as much just because I don't know. I feel like I'm just like kind of moving away from that a little bit more and focusing more on the groups. Um, but I am still offering card readings and like a Reiki combo with that too. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:27

Thank you. And if people are so you're in Portland, Maine, and if people are virtual, do you do virtual sessions? Like if they're further away. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:36

Yep, and there's like a little like a virtual mediumship reading section on my website when you're booking. It's just a little bit farther down, but we can do a virtual card reading or virtual mediumship, which I've done for plenty of people. Okay. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:50

Beautiful. Well, thank you so much for being here, for sharing, for talking about you know, intuition and mediumship and your journey, and just for being vulnerable and honest and just so incredible. We're so grateful for you and grateful to have you here on our podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:05

Thank you for having me. I feel so grateful to be here, and thank you for giving me this space to speak about all of this too. So thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:12

Of course. Thank you. Okay, we will see you all next time on our next episode of the Intuition Era. Bye.