6. We’re all Psychic Mediums: Our Stories of Connecting to the Otherside!

What happens when the signs are just a little too specific to ignore? 👀✨ In this episode, we're sharing our personal experiences with mediumship, connecting with loved ones on the other side, and the moments that made us believe there's more going on than meets the eye. From unexpected signs and messages to learning how to trust our intuition, we're diving into the stories that have shaped our spiritual journeys. Whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or somewhere in between, come hang out with us for a conversation about the magic, mystery, and comfort that can come from feeling connected to something bigger than ourselves!

Books by Laura Lynne Jackson 

“Signs: The Secret Language of the Universe”

“The Light Between Us” 

“Guided: The Secret Path to an Illuminated Life”

Podcasts Referenced: Trust Yourself Podcast 

Psychic Sisters Tea 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:08

Welcome back to the Intuition Era. I'm Emily. I'm Miranda. And today we're gonna talk to you about our experiences with mediumship. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

So excited. This one is like kind of vulnerable for me because it's like so, yes, right? Um, it's like so because people either like really judge you for it or they like really accept it and they like really, really, really want to know. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Okay, so I this is crazy. I can't believe Miranda's actually letting us do this because she's been like so freaked out about mediumship her whole life, guys. Like she's gonna get into it, but like I just am so proud of you for doing this, Randy. Like, I think this is gonna be awesome. And like, thank you for sharing a little bit with us. And before we get going, I just feel like we should define a couple things really quick, just like kind of like what I believe, what you believe. And so, you know, mediumship is about connecting to the other side. The other side is our loved ones who have died, our animals who've died, like connecting with people who are no longer with us and using signs, symbols, knowing, right? Like there's all the different clairs. And so Hannah touched on those in our last episode, like what clairs she has. Um, and everybody, you know, has their own, every medium has their own like way of communicating with the other side. Um, and mediumship for me has been like such an interest of mine because I've had some friends who've died and that and some loved ones who've died. And I just have always thought that like there's gotta be more than this. Like there's gotta be more to the other side, to this human existence. Like I've always like loved the shows and movies where it's like someone's loved one dies, and then they're like the loved one is like a ghost version of them standing next to them, like at all times. And that's kind of how I picture life for myself just to throw it out there. I'm like constantly looking at it, being like, huh, like who is that? Or like, oh, I bet that's so-and-so. And so for me, like I've you know, been on this journey for a little while, like being curious in mediumship, and like uh it's not really something that I've been out about to any of my friends or family. So this is a little crazy to be throwing this out here, and I know it's the same for Miranda. And so, mediumship, uh like I said, connecting to the other side. And um, I personally believe that all of us have the ability to connect and that we can use our intuition to connect to the other side. And I think that, you know, for some people, it actually like comes on stronger initially, like when they're little and they like don't ever forget how to use those skills. And then I personally believe that a lot of us have those, or all of us are born with the ability to tap into it if we so choose, if we feel called, if we feel like that's a path for us. And we have to learn how to use it. Intuition is a muscle. Just like Hannah said last week, you know, mediumship is a muscle. She's had to learn how do I hone this skill? How do I make this, you know, more clear, this communication, right? And then we think about people like Teresa Caputo and like all those famous, famous, famous psychics and mediums who, like, you know, Teresa Caputo, she is tough. She's right off the bat. She's strong. She's like, you know, go, go, go. She's very firm. Like she's like, this is what I'm seeing, and this is exactly, you know, she's, you know, very clear. And then other mediums are a little bit maybe slower, more relaxed, like different personalities. And maybe information doesn't come to them as strongly as it does to Teresa Caputo or somebody like that, right? Because Teresa Caputo has learned over decades how to hone this craft. So I personally believe that we can all have the ability to tap into this if we so choose. I've had my own mediumship experiences where I've connected with the other side. Miranda has as well. And so we're gonna dive into those a little bit today, and then I can also share some of my experiences going to see mediums as well. Anything else intro-wise, you think would be helpful?

SPEAKER_01 3:48

No, but when you mentioned Hannah, right? Yeah. Hannah saying, like, I mean, you said like some people have it more strongly. Um, I've always kind of like questioned that. Like, what is it a gift? Like, is it something that people only certain people can have? And is it something that something in their brain that's like allowing them to see or like hear or feel across the veil? And that's what I call that like separation is like the veil. And you'll yeah, and uh a lot of people do, and that makes sense to me is there's like a veil that we can't see. And when Hannah talked in the podcast in her last episode, she said that she went to what was it, like a past life? Past life regression, past life progression, regression, regression.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

I think she didn't, I don't think she went, but she Yeah, she said she went.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

That's right. And she said that she in her half-life, yes, she was like yes or like killed for her gift, and that's why it came her in like this yeah, um, what is that word that I can't even think of? Um, when you die and you come back. Reincarnation. Yeah, reincarnation in this in this lifetime, that's why her gift has come on so strongly and is yeah, uh like that just makes so much sense to me because I do believe that we were in reincarnate, and I do believe that we have multiple lifetimes, and I do believe that we have chosen to come down from the collective or whatever head and whatever you call it, and chosen this body, this soul, this lifetime for a reason, whatever reason it may be.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Well, the reason that I'm aware of that, you know, we choose to do these things and be the hero on earth is so that our soul can grow and develop. So, you know, a lot of psychics and mediums and people in the spiritual world believe, and I also believe, that our we are souls that have a human experience. And, you know, we're up in heaven, you know, or whatever you want to call it, up in the collective energy as souls, and that we have this like step-by-step process of like, here's how you grow, here's how you learn. And, you know, one way to go to school as a soul is to come down to earth and be in the earthly world and you know, experience what it's like to be a human and process through emotions and process through time, right? Because on the spirit side, time doesn't exist. You know, emotions don't really exist. It's just all love and light, right? From what we know anyway. And so working through what does it mean to be a human. Um, but anyway, so that's what a lot of people do believe is like this reincarnation of the soul in different human bodies so that the soul can learn and grow and expand. And so with Hannah's, right, her soul previously was a medium, right? And can have that experience. And so now her soul is here in a different body, in a different time frame doing that. And so past life regression is someone that you work with. Um, I don't know what they're called necessarily, like a psychic medium, intuitive something along those lines, but someone who helps you to get into, I think it's like a meditative state, like some sort of hypnotic meditative state where um they're kind of like talking to you and walking through with you your past lives. So what those past lives on earth have looked like. So super fascinating. We definitely need to talk about past life regression at some point in the future too, like get somebody on the podcast for that.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Yeah. Sorry, I don't know where to point with that. I lost my train of thought.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

But um, it's so funny that we're that we've done this and this is like one of the our beginning episodes because I really thought that we were going to like ease into this, and we really have not. No, we have not. We like really have not. And I I I I wish that you guys could like see my body because I will twitch and like move and like kind of like freak out a little bit while we talk about this because this medium ship has been so I don't even know the word. I've been so freaked out by it and so I'm skeptical at one point because I just didn't want I didn't want it to be true. It's so it's such a weird thing for me. Yeah. But with Emily, you have always had this like really strong connection to death. And I know that sounds dark, yeah, but like death has been such a turning point for you and so meaningful and has really I've never seen anybody like have the experience that you have with with death and with with that whole that whole experience. I don't even know what how to I don't even know how to describe it.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

I think that you're speaking to the number of people that I know who died, I think, at a uh or what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Just I'm talking about you specifically. You specifically, um because you like when we had our f our friend who has who died, who has passed, that was a very like a very traumatic thing, right? Like that was not supposed to happen. That was something that was like crazy. It was just crazy, right? But I've seen this in you where it's like, and this is where I think that you are gonna be such a good medium someday, is you take that that event, that death, and it almost like overwhelms you, like overcomes you. Um, and not in like an unhealthy, like terrible way, but it just like you embody it. You really feel through it. It's like a whole thing that you allow your body to do. And I don't know if a lot of people do that, right? Like so many people like have that experience and they go to the funeral and they shut it off and they're done. They say goodbye, they're sad about it, they sometimes think about it, and then they like emotionally repress. You feel through the whole thing. It's like an entire cycle that I see you go through. It's like a full body experience that you go through. It's wild.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Would you agree? Yeah, no, I totally agree. I think that I also I like to feel things when I can. Like I do live like a little detach. Well, I'm so deeply emotional, but I'm also a little detached sometimes. Like, I don't know. So, but I just I've always been curious about the afterlife and about psychics and mediums. I've always felt drawn to them. Um I grew up with my parents both being complete skeptics, my brother being a complete skeptic, my grandparents being episcopal priests, but also kind of curious, but also skeptics. So I've I've, you know, and like cousins, aunts, uncles, you know, friends, like I haven't had anybody who's been interested with me and not thought that I was batshit crazy for wanting to talk to dead people. And like I haven't really told anybody that I'm studying mediumship, like anyone in my life. So, you know, friends, family, whoever's listening, feel free to ask questions. And I'm totally safe and everything is good and well. And, you know, I protect myself using prayer and intention and all of those things. And I've worked with professional psychics and mediums to um work on like my connection to the other side through, you know, communication to the other side in whatever way that I do it, which I'm still trying to figure out. And I do a lot of reading as well on that. And so, you know, but going back to my own like how I process death, like I feel like like in the Jewish tradition, like sitting Shiva, like sitting for a week of like mourning and like just fully being in it has like a I I kind of do that my own way. It's like allowed me to really process through the pain and allowed me to actually feel it because I think that I I do a lot of or have historically done a lot of shoving things down and I just like can't do that anymore. And so that means that I have to really dive into the severe pain of it and like try to feel that as much as I possibly can in a safe way. But I think that like, you know, talking about my interest in death, like it's kind of always been there, but I also have a 12th house stellium, and my son is in the 12th house. And so having a stellium is like in my astrological birth chart. Having a stellium is having three or more planets in one house. So it's just like I have this concentration of energy that sits in my astrological chart that is around the unconscious, the unknown, the I've talked about this before, the things that we hide from ourselves. It's, you know, the house of endings, it's the last house. It's number 12, it's Pisces, it's death before rebirth. Um, and so I think that a lot of my interest in that comes from that energy that I have in the 12th house and just like my own life experiences of like, you know, having weird things happen, having lots of signs, having communication from the other side and believing in it. And like I got to a point where I was like, I'm no longer going to be skeptical. I'm just going to believe whatever it is I believe and keep it to myself and allow other people to believe something totally different. But I've had so many experiences with psychics and mediums and with my own talking to dead people and with just, you know, with Miranda's experiences as well, and like my friends who are interested in this realm. There's just like too much evidence for me to deny. And I don't want to deny because I want my loved ones to still be there with me. And I want to be able to call on them. Um, and I want to have experiences with them after they're gone because that's what I need to have in order to feel good about being here. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

Um, so Emily, like I, and I'm just gonna have to speak for you, has been working on this and honing this skill for and be you've been interested in it for your entire life, but you've been like kind of working on it and actually doing some readings recently. Secretly, yeah, secretly, secretly, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

Yeah, I just like so two incredible women um that are the hosts of Trust Yourself podcast, and also um, I think that they they're starting this podcast called Psychic Sisters Tea, I think is what it's called. I'm not totally sure, but absolutely love them, Heidi and Elise. And they are just absolutely incredible people and they, you know, have gone on their own journey of um navigating how to become psychic and how to become a medium and how to tap into their own gifts. And so I did a number of like coaching sessions with them. And like, you know, I I love to learn, but I don't always love to apply. So these women were like, no, we're learning and applying, and you have no choice. I mean, you know, very kindly they they encouraged me. And so I've, you know, been so curious and like wanted to go down this path of mediumship, but had never really practiced reading somebody else. And so I just have only done these two readings that I've intentionally done. And I think, you know, unintentionally, I have given people some messages just through speaking what was ever on my mind and just allowing it to flow out, even if I didn't know why I was saying it or like if it was important at all. So I've done some intentional reading there, I think. But um, with these two women, I did have a couple experiences where I was able to connect with both of their grandmothers, I think it was. It's like a little hard to remember, and got to just like use them as someone to test with around like me tapping into my intuition and just saying whatever it is that comes to mind because there's um, you know, like there's all the different clairs and there's claire, is it claire knowing? Is that what it's called? Do you know?

SPEAKER_01 14:26

Not as versed as that. I can tell you there's a seeing and a feeling and a knowing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

So I think for me, it's like the knowing. And so um, I just kind of have to tap into my knowing and like paying attention to what's going on for me, what's showing up for me. So I just looked it up really quick. So clairvoyance is seeing flashes of images or seeing like a mental movie. Claire audience is hearing, so hearing voices, sounds, or whispers, or you know, noticing songs or song lyrics. Claire sentience is clear feeling, so having a physical sensation. Claire cognizance is the clear knowing, like getting a download of information, knowing facts without any proof. Claire aliens, am I saying that right? I don't know. That's smelling. So noticing a perfume or smoke or fla, you know, smelling flowers, clairgustance is tasting, so tasting a flavor. And yeah, so there's all these different ways of communicating with the other side. I have actually had a lot of these now that I'm saying them out loud. And so when I was reading, you know, for these two women, I I just had to like notice what was going on around me, actually. And so I was like noticing where my eyes were being drawn to, noticing what I felt in my body. And there was a couple of times where I like, you know, just had a random thought or image pop into my mind. And so I just got to like speak those aloud with them and work through like, does this have significance and what is the significance there? So it was really, really wonderful. And I was able to, the grandmother that I connected with, you know, I had this like feeling, I was holding my right foot in like a weird position. And I was like, why does that feel so weird? Um, and so I asked them, I was like, was there something with her right foot? And they were like, Yeah, she actually um had to amputate her right foot before she died. I know. And I was like, and she I think she died because of some like something to do with her health that had to do with her right foot. So just you know, things like that. And then I I saw like a I my I was being drawn to my hallway and I saw an image of a guitar in the hallway that we have on the wall. And I like it was then asked, like, does she did she like music? Was that a big part of her life? And the answer was yes. And then I had this uh, you know, image of an antique photo with like, you know, her a man in it who was felt like an uncle. And you know, one of the girls had that exact antique frame and with the image inside, and she didn't even know who the image was of. So, you know, I was like, Well, I think it was an uncle. So it was really cool, really crazy, super weird. Um, and like also just made it clear like I can do this. Yeah. And then I also, like, in a different session, um, spoke to a different grandmother of theirs who no one has connected with before me. Which is special.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

As you, every time you tell me, I get chills. Like I get literal fist bumps, which is like my go-to. Like, it's always been that for me, for my body to like know that this is something that's really important, or like something's being channeled, or like something's like it just feels like every time you tell me this, I'm like, ugh, that's that feels like it was crazy. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

And like just being like, okay, uh, here's this image of you know, this, what does this mean? And it's like, okay, well, that was our symbol for her. That's our sign. Whenever we see this image, that's how I know it's her trying to communicate to us. And I was able to get that image. And then um, you know, like I've had other times separately from this, like when I walked into I walked into my house like a few weeks ago or a few months ago or something, and um, it smelled like cigarettes. And I was like, what is going on? Why I can't get the smell out of my nose. It smells like cigarettes. That's so crazy. And I like had no idea. And I asked Spence, I was like, Does it smell like cigarettes in here? Am I losing it? And he was like, I don't smell anything. And he was cooking dinner. Like, not only was I not smelling the dinner, but I was smelling cigarettes. And that has been like for my in my family, like my my grandmother, who's has who passed when I was two years old, she smoked cigarettes and was like a big smoker. And my uncle had said to me once that like whenever he smells smoke randomly, he knows that that's her trying to communicate to him. And so then I was like, oh my God, she's communicating to me. And so, you know, with this world, I've had to just trust that like, you know, I had this seed planted when my uncle told told me about the cigarette smell that he experiences that, right? That seed was planted in me so that when it happened to me, I would know that it was her. So I was able to just accept that instead of trying to debunk it. But that smell was there for quite a while for me, which was really interesting. And then I yeah, I had a weird experience with a man in an elevator once who I like, you know, ended up giving him a hug and telling him that his wife loved him so much and that she misses him. And I just it was like I felt like I had to tell him, you know. What was his response? Okay, so do you want me to tell you the whole story? I mean, yeah, it was a little, a little odd. I'm I'm trying to remember it, but we were both wearing all black, and um, we were both going down in the elevator, and um he pointed out my tattoos, and I was like, Oh, I like yours. And then he ended up telling me about his wife, who had recently died, and he was like, She comes back to me as a crow, and like we always talked about she would come back as a crow or a raven. I don't know what the difference is, but and so he talks about how he has this one bird that visits him all the time, and she had a bird that visited her all the time, and so he was just sharing about that, and I was like, This is so beautiful! Like, what are the chances that I get caught in an elevator? You know, we weren't stuck, but we were just you know, together going down four flights together alone, dude, elevator elevator is like so quick, and he's just like opening up to you like that. Like it's like two seconds, yeah. And you know, she how she died, recently died, all these things, and just we walked together, and you know, he was like, Have you lost someone? And I was like, Yes, I've lost people, and like it's terrible. And you know, I was able to just like be a human with him and be like, Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Like I, you know, and then I I kind of like, you know, we said our goodbyes, and then I actually like was walking away from him and I stopped and I turned back around. And this is a random man that I do not know. Uh, you know, we were in public and it was safe in a safe spot and what and I felt totally comfortable, but I walked away from him and I had this gut feeling of like, nope, you have to turn back around. So I turned back around and I was like, I I think I'm supposed to tell you that your wife really loves you and like really misses you and hopes that you're okay. And he was like, Thank you so much. Like I needed to hear that, and I I think that you know that that's totally true. And um, he looked at me with tears in his eyes, and I had tears in my eyes, and we just hugged each other in the parking lot. And I was like, that was really crazy. Like, what the fuck just happened? And then I walked back to my car, and you know, I'm always looking for signs, or just, you know, I was like, somebody tell me that that was the right thing to do, please. Like spirit guides, you know, talk to me. And I go to get in my car. The license plate, the car right next to me, the license plate number was 143, which is I love you. Yeah. And that was, and then I saw a 777 after right after that as I was pulling out of the parking lot.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

So sometimes it's not necessarily about what those numbers are to me. It's more about seeing that there are the numbers, like I've said in the past. Like sometimes it's like I'll get an abundance of like angel numbers everywhere. And that to me is like you're on the right path, like you did the right thing. And just so interesting, you know, like whenever I get a one four three, I say I love you back to the universe. And that was just one of those moments that I was like, look at the love that we get to share as humans and like the. Grief, you know, there's so much love in grief, right? Like when we can really be present with other people and like be with them through something that they're experiencing, even in a teeny tiny way. This man who I will never see again could not pick him out of a crowd without his tattoo, of course. Um, you know, we had this like moment that I was like, that was profound. And like that meant something to me, even if I can't fully explain it or describe it and like, you know, help you guys to understand it. Like it was just so powerful. And, you know, helping people to communicate to their loved ones or helping people to just feel heard about the people who've died in their lives. It's felt like such a calling for me because I think I've like felt so alone in that experience for myself and you know, plus my interest in it and like allowing people to just feel seen in that way, like asking people about their loved ones who are have since passed, you know, using their name after they're dead, like all of those things, like those are things that we don't, you know, do in society because we avoid the hard things or like the sad things. And I don't think that we should have to avoid those hard or sad things. I think that we should figure out how to incorporate them and allow people to talk about their dead loved ones without feeling like you have to hold your breath, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Yeah. There's so much meaning and so much depth with death, right? And it really does like make us feel more connected and it can also make us feel more secluded, depending on how you embrace it, honestly. Like that moment that you had with a complete stranger that could have changed his life, or that could have changed that could have changed your life. It was profound, as you said, right? And I just like that's such a experience that I think we can close ourselves off to, and that's such a connection that's so much evidence that we are connected beyond just physically being here, right? Like you felt something in your soul, he felt something in his soul, like that was meant to happen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

I mean, and also how wonderful for him to be able to share. I mean, even if it wasn't me connecting to the other side, which I believe that it was because I had those signs, but you know, even just, you know, for him to be able to share about his wife, right? Like, you know, he was talking about how he just, you know, kind of is alone and like reads the paper and does his little thing, and that's about it. And so just for him to be acknowledged as somebody who's, you know, going through the biggest loss of their lifetime at an older age, like how isolating that must be, right? Like, yeah, it was really beautiful. And it made me think like, when's the last time this man got a hug? You know, like we need physical touch as humans. We need to like love on each other and like feel, you know, like some people's number one love language is physical touch, right? Imagine your spouse dying and not feeling like you want to date, can date, have any interest in touching anyone else. And then, you know, say your family doesn't live nearby enough to come and give you a hug. Like those moments are really important and so essential to being human. Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

And the way that it makes you feel, right? That feeling, that frequency that we talk about, it does feel like a different frequency. It does feel like a different level of connection. What specifically?

SPEAKER_00 25:09

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

Um, like what you just had, that profound moment.

SPEAKER_00 25:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Right. It's hard to describe what that feels like in your body, but that's kind of what it feels like when you connect and channel too, is that there's like a profound connection, a different type of frequency, feeling, depth. Yeah, it just like it's really hard to put words towards what that feels like when something is that the only word that I have is connected or meaningful. And I think that even a lot of skeptics, right, even if you don't believe that, I think that they do have experiences, especially with death, where it's like, and and I do believe that we all have that experience, we all have that ability to connect and be mediums and do all of those things if we want to, right? If we want to channel in and if we want to hone in on that muscle and work it out. But I have seen like even people, the most cynical, like skeptic people who have gone through these really big losses, right? And the most used sign is a cardinal, right? And they believe in that. Oh, that's the sign. That's the sign. So if if they can believe in that, why can't they believe that we can read those messages? They're reading the message. Yeah, right there. They're seeing the bird, they're seeing the red cardinal, like they believe that that's their loved one coming to them. That's it. That's that one.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

That's the intuition, right? And so, like allowing yourself to hear the intuitive thought initially, and then like, you know, the intuition comes first. That's like the first knowing is like the intuition happens of like, you know, I see this, I see the guitar in the hallway. She must have liked music, right? And then it's like, wait, why am I looking out in the hallway? How is my random Portuguese guitar in the hallway, the one of three images that I have that I can see from my desk, how does that have any significance to this woman? Right? Like that is so ridiculous, right? But, you know, it's the meaning that we give to it. And so I think for my journey, it's been a lot of like allowing myself to trust that whatever my first thought is is correct. My first thought was, I need to hug this man, right? And so instead of talking myself out of it, I turned around, went back, hugged him. When I have a thought of like, I need to call my friend today, I just call them instead of sitting there and talking myself out of it or thinking, you know, they probably don't want to hear from me today. I just act on it. And so I think that a lot of it is like, you know, with the cardinal, people being like, that's my loved one, right? Let they let that be a sign and they don't question it. So I feel like we could add the not questioning piece in a little bit more to our lives. And, you know, also a a big learning, you know, a big spot of learning that I have engaged in is like reading books, like I've mentioned. And um, Laura Lynn Jackson, have you heard of her, Random? Incredible psychic medium. And um, she's just like has a few books out there. One of them is called Signs, one of them is called The Light Between Us, and then one of them is called Guided. I think she might have another one, but those are the ones that I've read. So the light between us is about the connection to the other side and like her kind of relationship with mediumship and like how she feels that we're all always connected, even though we don't know it or see it. And then the signs one is about how do I receive signs from my loved ones on the other side and all these crazy stories about people who didn't believe or um, you know, didn't believe till they had their own experiences, or like people who are asking, asking, asking, and like not trusting, and just really, really wonderful books. And so then guided is also about these crazy experiences that she's had when she's allowed herself to just make the choice that her intuition is telling her to make and how those things have guided her to where she's supposed to be. But those books have just been like extremely helpful for me in seeing how much power I have in communicating with the other side or how I can ask for a specific sign. I mean, what did she say? Um, and I think this is like, okay, I have to share the story from her book that I just read. Um, I think that this is a good example because like sometimes people will go to psychics in mediums and like they'll say, you know, the psychic will say, Oh my god, you're gonna be, you know, you're you're pregnant, are you pregnant, you're gonna be pregnant, or whatever, like there's a baby coming or something like that. That is one interpretation, or that's a symbol to interpret the message. The message could be you're pregnant with a new creative idea. You're pregnant with a new homemaking idea, you're pregnant with a new ambition towards life. It doesn't have to be literal, right? It's about the interpretation of what you choose for your own personal being, of what the what the interpretation is, what is the importance of this message? So I just, you know, signs can come across to us in all different ways. And I think people are quick to say, like, psychics and mediums are, you know, like bullshit artists because of those generalizations. Um, but I think it really, it's like we could dig a little bit deeper and not take things so literally and think about how could this be applied to my life. So just wanted to throw that out there. But in in um Lorelyn Jackson's book, Guided, that I'm reading right now, she was just sharing about how uh uh it was like this woman whose husband had died and really traumatic, really out of the blue, and their like 10-year-old son, um, she was, you know, raising with him. Like she, you know, now she's a single mom, like has to deal with life alone. And so she's talking about how she's like trying to communicate with her husband and asking for signs. And, you know, sh they had talked about, you know, if I die, I'm gonna send you this sign. And so she was like, okay, you really need I have chills right now. I have I have goosebumps. But she's like, okay, you need like if I if I she was saying that people should talk to their their loved ones about like, if I die, here's the message I'm gonna send you so that they know. Um, because she and her husband had already kind of talked about that and established it, even though they were young and didn't anticipate dying anytime soon. And um, so she was getting messages regularly um from him, but she would also uh be skeptical about them, even when she was receiving them. And so she said she taught her kid about signs, and so she was talking to him about it and and she was like, Okay, so like, do you want to ask dad for a sign? And the kid was like, Yeah, and she was like, Okay, what are you gonna ask for? And he said, I'm gonna ask that dad sends me this song, I can't remember what song it was, within the next 24 hours. And the mom was like shook. She's like, Oh my God, like you're not only asking for a sign, but you're putting a timeline on it, and you're telling dad, like the next 24 hours you need to figure out how to send me this sign. Like she was like, Whoa, my kid is asking for so much more than I am, right? Like this is this is a new level. And he just like, you know, that's the beauty about children is they'll just like throw it out there and like trust and believe that it's gonna happen, right? And so then, you know, she hadn't heard anything from her kid about it, hadn't heard anything, you know, they're home from school, nothing's happened. Like the next day, she's like, you know, just so you know, like, even if you don't get the sign, like it's okay. And like doesn't mean the dad's not there, but like it does mean that, you know, maybe it just takes them a little bit longer than 24 hours to get the sign through. And the kid was like, No, mom, I I got it yesterday. Like, I I got it easily. And this 10-year-old kid is like just showing her, like, oh my God, like this is you don't have to think about it. You don't have to like, but you have to keep your mind open. So he was like saying that she was like, Oh, like when did you get the sign? And he was like, Well, the song didn't come on, but we were walking down the hallway, me and my best friend, and all of a sudden my best friend started singing the song. What? So, you know, it's just so funny because it's like it doesn't have to come through the people, the radio, the phone in the ways that we think that it will. We just have to be open to it coming through in any way possible. So, like five hours or less after she dropped her kid off at school that day, his best friend randomly was singing this random song in the hallway as they're walking down the hallway together. And he was like, clocked it. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

I think it's so amazing. I think that's why so many people have experiences when they're little and when they're yes. Yes. Because I think that we because we've had less time on earth and we've had less density and less emotions and less ego, honestly, to tell us it's not true and close us off, is we're just more open. And that's why so many of this, so many of Medium's stories start when they're little. And I bet if I asked you or asked anybody, like we would have some feelings about childhood. That's kind of where it started for me, like for sure.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Yeah. Wait, tell us about you, because I need people to know about like your background, how this started for you, and what it's been like for you to talk to people who have passed.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

Yeah. Um, I just throwing this out there, I do not call myself a medium. I have like rejected this part of myself for so long because it scared the shit out of me, like truly. Um, and I don't want it. I don't want it. And I know that me saying that, like, that hurts your soul because I remember, dude, I remember like the conversation we were having when I was like telling you all of this stuff about what's happened and you were like, I want this gift. Like I'm genuinely working towards like my emotions to be open to reading this. This is what I want to do with my life. And I was like, I fucking don't. Like I want to close off. Like, I will do anything that I can. I just don't want it. But ever since I was a really, really, really young, I would wake up in the middle of the night and I would be like, There's someone in my room. There's someone in my room, there's someone in my room, there's someone in my room. And it was like, like to the point where I would like, I was raised Catholic. We went to my priest and I would I got holy water. I was like, there is something in my room. I keep waking up at night. And um, yeah, it was right into my teens. Like, I it's so embarrassing to me still. Like right into my teens, I would like literally have my phone in my in my bed. I'd wake up in the middle of the night and I'd be like, There's somebody in my room. I wouldn't move a fucking muscle except my arm. And I would call my sister who's down the hall for me, and I'd say, there's someone in my room, I need you to come get me. I'd make her come get me every single night, walk down the hall, come get me in my bed, and then I'd go to her room and I'd sleep with her that night. Every, like every single night for a solid, like a long, way, way longer than I should have. But it's because I didn't understand. Like, and no one, you know, I I would tell my mom this and I would tell my mom that I'm scared, and I would, I would do all this. And my mom's like, no one has died. This is a brand new house. Like, what is what's going on? Um, yeah, and I just thought my family was like, thought I was crazy. I didn't want to be seen as crazy. Um, and I just I would wake up with like this intense feeling, this it's overwhelming feeling that there was somebody in my in my space. And when I'm alone, I still have this. I still have this, but it's a very strong feeling, especially when I'm watching TV and alone, that someone is watching TV with me or somebody is sitting on the couch with me. And if I'm into my show, I'll even look up and go to talk to that person. Dude, it's like I'm fucking insane. I'm insane. And I have to like look and I'm like, oh, there isn't anybody over there. Oh my god. It's like an insane feeling. And it's a like when it's TV, it's usually comforting. Like I'm usually like, or when I'm reading a book and I like have in a funny like space, I'll like look up and look over where I can feel someone with me to like tell them. I feel insane every time that I feel it, like so crazy. But it's because of these really, really intense, and I know that I am clear, whatever it is. I know that I have these really intense feelings because that's what I use to channel like with clients. That's what I use to like pull cards. I can hone in on that feeling so fucking quickly. And that's why I don't like talking about this. Because for some reason it's like I'm like looking around right now at my own.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

It might too well, but it's like I mean we have to remember though, what Hannah was saying last week is like I I think she mentioned this, but I've heard this from many mediums like spirits are respectful. If they say, if you you know, if you tell them like leave me alone immediately, they do. Right. And so I think it's you we've talked about your boundaries and figuring out what are your boundaries, right?

unknown 36:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

Yeah, I've had to really, really do that. When when I started like this journey of meditation and limiting beliefs and affirmations and then spirit guides, you know, that kind of like opened the door again where I started waking up from like two to four a.m. again and I would have to say, and I was more comfortable with this, with the with the side because I knew that I could control it and I believed that I had looked into it like this was me. I hired somebody that helped me like channel and meditate and do all of those things and create boundaries, right? When we talked about it with Hannah, like that clear bubble, I do that still, and I'll I'll envision like a white light, like this is mine. And ever since we had that episode with Hannah, I've been waking up from two to four, which I guess is when the veil is like super thin and communication be can be really, really strong, like 2 a.m. to 4 a.m. Wow. And I've been waking up every fucking night since we've had that episode with Hannah.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

And I know that I do that. Like I know that I do that, and I try really hard to not do that because I don't want it and I've set really strong boundaries. Like you will not wake me up for sleeping. Yeah. You will not come to me unless I'm sitting there in meditation asking for it. But I think somewhere in my body, I allow it. I don't know. I don't know. But ever since we had that episode with Hannah, I wake up at 204 and I'll say out loud and I can feel this energy. And I'll say, like, this is I'm not available for this. You need to get out of my space. This is my space. I don't, I don't want it. I don't want it like at all. So that's kind of like my overall experiences. But when I when I started channeling, um, I had this client who I was like talking to. And when I say channeling, I mean like I can hone in on that like feeling, that overwhelming feeling of connection. And I'll get a chill and I'll feel it's almost like an out-of-body experience. Like I can feel grounded and I know that my body is here, but my soul feels enlightened. It feels like not enlightened, that's not the right word, but lighter. It feels like separate. And I think that empaths are really good at this. Like you could, I can separate and discern what is my feeling versus like what is the feeling that I'm feeling because I'm with you, right? I can do that with physical people, and I can also do that with the like not physical world, right? So that part has become has been easy for me. And I don't know if that's easy for everybody else, right? So that's what I do when I channel. But I had this client and I was channeling with her, and she was like, Okay, like I'm just I'm wondering if you can like connect to people for me. And um, I was like, you know, I am not trained to do that, like I haven't really done that. I was kind of like dabbling in that because I wanted to set really strong boundaries of I don't want visitation, like I don't want it at all. I'm done, like I'm out of here. Like, please do not come see me. Do not, I don't want it. I don't want any part of mediumship. Um and I was like, I I can I can try to open up. Like, I don't know why she said that. I don't know why it happened. And the only thing that I did was set the intention. Like the only thing that I did was set the intention. It was just like, okay, whoever wants to come into my space that is safe and light. I remember now. You know what it was? They saw an orb. I was on video. I have the video actually. There was an orb and it was going around my head. Wow. And it was going in and out, and I have the video. And they were like, that's a fucking orb as I was talking to her. And she was like, Can you connect? And I was like, I can I can try, but I'm not trained. Like, this isn't this is pretty unethical. Like, in my opinion, I yeah, I was like, this is not, I am not a medium. So I said, Whoever is surrounding me and wants to talk, like it's it's pretty clear that you want to be here. Um, and then those images started popping up, like you said. It's like an intense feeling. And when I connect to spirit guides, it's also like that. It I don't really see people, but I can feel their emotion. So I immediately started laughing. And I was like, whoa, like this spirit's like wicked, wicked funny. And she's like, Yeah, okay, there's there's something in my in my space that that was like really, really funny. Um, and I was like, she's like, and I I could identify that it was a woman. I was like, well, she's she's got like this wicked, motherly, like laughing, nurturing energy. And she's like, my mom just died. And I was like, okay, okay, well, this is this is your mom. And I was like, and I was getting these images, and I was like, okay, I'm seeing like this like necklace, and she's like, I have it on. And I was like, also there's like this like key, and she's like, Yeah, there's a key to the chest. I haven't opened the chest yet. And then I was like, and then I was like, okay, this is so stupid, and this is where the ego comes in, right? This is where the ego comes in, and this whole time I can still feel her emotions, and I'm like laughing at her, and I can I can't hear what she's saying, but I know that she's joking, and I know that she's like sending like the it's so crazy. It's so crazy, but this is where the ego comes in, is like I saw a flash in my mind's eye of a Hawaiian shirt, and I was like, that's so fucking stupid. Like, I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

My God, stop.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

That's so stupid. And so I said, and so I was like, Oh god, I gotta say it. I gotta fucking say this. I hope I don't look stupid. I hope I don't look stupid. And I was like, listen, I'm getting a Hawaiian shirt, and she's like, we went to Hawaii every single year. Like Stop it! Like, yeah, I'm getting chills and I don't think matters. Oh my god, that was our place. And then I started to cry, and it didn't feel like like sadness for me or my feeling. It felt like a like, I'm so happy. Like I'm so happy that I can talk to you. It was, it was wild. It was so crazy. And then I closed off because I learned how to do that, and like that was that reading. Like, that was cool. And I closed off and I learned how to do it, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, that was the like a good experience and why I would consider like maybe doing mediumship, but it's the like waking up in the middle of the night, the like really strong feelings that I just can't, can't, I can't, and I I don't want, I don't want it, like truly. I love channeling, I will do that forever. I will tap into your spirit guides. I'm really fucking good at it. But mediumship, I I don't believe that that's my calling. I think it's really powerful for a reason, and I don't want it.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:39

And I know that. That's so interesting. I went down this road of like Reiki and I did some trainings with Reiki. And my grandmother had dementia and um Alzheimer's, and she died from it. She was in a home. And she died when it was COVID. So we couldn't really see her in her home, but they let us go see her when she was dying, one by one, right? And it was a really painful experience. It was fucking terrible. Like it was awful. And I walked in and my grandmother was how do I describe this? Her soul was not in her body. Wow. Her soul was not in her body, but her body was still alive. It was, I've never seen anything, and I'm gonna get a little like, well, I've never experienced anything like that. And I've seen dead bodies and I've seen like people die, and my grandfather was unplugged, and I've seen all of that. But like to see somebody's body still alive, but know that they are not in that body anymore, um, was comforting because she was in a lot of pain, but also like so, so crazy. So I just finished this Reiki class and I was, I got the survey kitchen, blah blah blah. And I've never done Reiki on anybody ever, other than in the class. And I was like, if this body is in this much pain, like I if I if this is true, if there's even a sliver of hope that I can like relieve her from this pain, like I'm gonna do it. So I wasn't supposed to, but I unzipped my thing, right? Because we were in, it was COVID. I was in like that full hazmat. I unzipped it. I unzipped it, I put my hands over her and I like did a meditation and I swear to you, like I swear. In my this was all in my mind's eyes, so I honestly my head could be making up making it up, but I don't it it was like an out-of-body experience, and I truly believed this. And I even told my family who was like skeptical, and they believed this. Like it was so wild. Wow. I went to like this, like what I can only describe as purgatory. And I like helped her soul go into this purgatory. And we walked through this like really long, long grass, and it was sunny and it was windy and it was warm. And we walked and we walked and we were walking slowly, slowly, slowly toward this like massive tree. And when we got there, my grandfather was waiting there. And he was not in a form that I knew him. He was in like this like younger form. Um, and I've never seen him like that. And I we didn't even really really have pictures. Like I'd never really seen, but I knew it was him. And there was like this swing, and I watched, I looked back at my grandmother, and she had changed from her person to like a wicked younger version, like a young girl. And she sat on the swing, and I was with them while he was pushing her on the swing, and they were just waiting and they were just waiting. And it was almost like she had to like let go of like this like or like mourn this childhood that she like maybe didn't have. I don't know. I don't know. But she did it, and then she like changed and transformed to like the same age that he was, and they swang and they were just swinging, just waiting, just waiting. And it was like, and that's where I had stopped. And I was like, okay, this feels like now that she changed, this feels like I am not supposed to be here anymore.

SPEAKER_02 45:32

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

So I opened my eyes, I opened my eyes and I like took my hands back and I said, Okay, universe, I need a sign that this was real, and I need a sign that when when she dies, right? When she fully passes, like when she crosses that purgatory and actually goes to the light. Because I knew she was waiting. They were both waiting for something. I don't know. So then we all had to leave and drive home away from the home that she was in. And I don't know, it must have been like an hour, maybe two hours. My son has always been butterfly, and that's actually why I got a tattoo for that. Oh my gosh. I didn't know that butterfly for me. Yeah. Okay. It's like a wicked, I don't know why, but it always has. So we got home. People were just like eating, kind of hanging out, kind of like just waiting, really. And I went to go pick up a board because I was helping my dad build something. I went to go pick up a board and a butterfly, I'm not fucking shitting you, went right close to my face. Like so fucking close that I could have like, it could have, I could have licked it.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

I could have I could have licked it. It's the first thing that comes to mind. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

And I was like, okay, she's gone. Two minutes later, my mom got a call.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

No.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Two minutes. She's passed. My God, that's insane. It was it was wild. It was wild. Wow. It was wild. But that me telling my mom, like it was a wicked, vulnerable thing, and me telling my mom that story. Um, because I thought she was gonna be like, okay, sure, sure. Because my family was like, you're in a manifestation, you're gonna manifest, you're gonna meditate, you know. But me telling my mom that, and my mom has always been so connected and just like really denial, like in denial about her, her stuff, like knows things before they happen, like has dreams where it seems like reality and then it happens, like crazy shit. Crazy mom. This is my mom. So I told my mom this in deep, deep, deep like detail. And I can't remember if she responded or something, but after, like maybe a couple days, a couple weeks, I don't know. She started telling people this same story that I was and she was like, Miranda has this gift, she can do this. It was her whole thing. You told her the whole story. I told her the whole thing, the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 47:36

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

And she was like, She this is you've been like this since you were little. You've been like this since you were little, and yeah, dude. And then she was like, Your grandmother was crazy witchy. My god, and there's so much shame around that, and there's so much denial around it, but she also knew things, and I think that's where you get it from. And I was like, Mom, you got that too. She goes, I know, I know.

SPEAKER_00 47:56

Wow, that's so powerful. Oh my god, that's insane. And I, you know, you said like that you, you know, you didn't didn't want this gift. This was not, you know, right. Like we were just we're talking about it. It's so interesting because I just went to a a medium last week who was like, I did not want this gift. She was like, I didn't want it. Really? Yes. I feel like maybe you should go see her.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

Finally opening up. I I've never seen a medium, but I'm finally like, I think I'm ready to because I want this explained.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

Yeah, I feel like that would be really helpful for you. Um, but I just it's so interesting to me because I'm like, oh my God, I can't imagine like not wanting to be a medium or psychic or whatever, right? But it's also like, you know, sometimes we don't want to do the thing that our soul is called to do, right? And like, but what that's kind of what we're here for. Like you're, you know, maybe this gift was given to you because, you know, you had to go and like learn all the things that your soul needed to learn, and part of it is being a medium here on earth, right? Like I don't believe it is.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

No. I don't, I don't know. I think that because I am so I think I think it's channeling. I think it's I really, really do. I think it's like me sitting with a client and helping them connect to spirit guides and helping them do it their on their own and making that spiritual connection. And that is what my purpose is.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

Yeah, that's fascinating. I mean, like having that experience with your grandmother. How was that? Like what it when you felt like you were like transported into this, you know, the place where your grandfather was on the swing. Like, it's so interesting that your mind went straight to like healing her childhood.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

Like, yeah, it was like, and I can't really describe it because it's a feeling. It just, it's like I can feel the morning and I can feel what the morning is for, and I can feel the grief of what that's what it's for, even though it's not explained to me and I can't hear it and they're not saying it.

SPEAKER_02 49:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

Yeah. Um, but that experience with my grandmother, it was so and this is why I believe in mediumships and why I believe in what you want to do. It was so healing. I didn't feel sad at all. I felt relief and and I like she went through a terrible, it was awful. Like we were home every day with her, like before we got were able to get her into like hospice. It was a really, really the whole thing was a really powerful experience watching my grandmother go through dementia and Alzheimer's. And my mom and her, my mom and me were were there pretty much every day and every night. Where was I going with that? Oh, so I didn't really grieve at all because it didn't feel like I needed to. It didn't feel like that was the end. It felt like she was just where she was supposed to be, and I can still, and even though like she has fully, I know that she has fully passed and her soul has not come back to me. And she is like in the collective, like where she's supposed to be. She's pass like moved on. That just it just feels right.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

It doesn't feel sad to me. I don't miss her like because we had that experience. It was so, it's so weird.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

Was it healing for your mom or like any of your other family members to hear about this and to be able to experience this through you telling them the story of what your experience was?

SPEAKER_01 50:53

I do think it's I do think it was as profound for me as it was for my mom. I do. I don't know if my other family members felt, I don't want to say that connected because that makes me sound like an asshole, but it didn't resonate with them, even though you had this experience.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

Like they're like, Oh, it did resonate.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

It did, but it didn't that like soul like knowing. Yeah, that experience has just really changed my mom and me to be she I've seen her open up more. I've seen her open up more to her own gifts, to her own knowing. There are times where she'll like look at me and she'll be like, like, we just had a thought about Adeline, my niece, the other day. And I was like, Mom, I was thinking the same thing at the same time. So we were like, well, fuck, that means something. So we and you know what I mean? And 10 years ago, she wouldn't have done that. She would have been like, oh, it's fine. It's fine.

SPEAKER_00 51:39

What do you think about that? Thinking the same thing at the same time. What does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_01 51:42

I think there's a connection. I think that there's a channel, like there's like a frequency that you can tune into. Um, it's the same thing with you and me. Like, we there are times where you call me and you're like, I just felt like I really needed to call you. And I'm like, I was actually just thinking about you.

SPEAKER_02 51:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:56

Or when I call you and I'm like, or I have a dream about you, and I'm like, this just happened. Are you okay? Are you good? And you're like, actually, I was having a really bad day. I think that there is this communication energetically that we don't fully understand. Yeah. Um that is beyond, yeah, beyond understanding that I and I think that that is the piece, and I know that that is the piece for me that you can build on and grow to be able to connect and um yeah, work that muscle out.

SPEAKER_00 52:23

Do you feel like you believe similar things to what I was mentioning earlier about like intuition as like the first thought of whatever comes to mind, or that you know, just about the reincarnation stuff and like what do you think are the truths of what you know?

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Yeah. Even when I'm working with clients, when I'm first working with them in their first phase, like when we start to work on imit limiting beliefs, affirmations, and connecting back into your body, I always tell them, and this is true for me, and I'm I'm hope it resonates with you too, but that your first thought is intuition and then your second thought is usually fear.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

Yeah. Um, or ego, you know, which is which is what I call it. And really working on separating the two is super important. Like we can feel both, right? But acknowledging that they're two separate things kind of like places the control back into your, into your hands of okay, I've had this intuitive thought, this knowing, and then almost immediately after I have the fear.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

How do you know when it is your ego and not just your uh I don't know, or anxiety, or like how do you know when something's really happening and you like choose to not question it, like that whole experience that you had? Like, did your ego ever come in and be like, no, all that's fake? Like that didn't happen. You're making shit up.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

Yeah, I c I still think that, right? I still have those thoughts. Okay. Because there's doubt and fear in your human experience. That's those are normal emotions and normal thoughts, you know. But there is a feeling that's deeper, that's deeper than their surface level of okay, what if this actually didn't happen? Yeah, you know, I still have those thoughts. I still have them, but I think the intuition piece really, really lives for me in my gut, like in my sacral, like in in that, in my stomach, like truly in my gut. It just I it there is a knowing there that is really, really deeply rooted, and I have to trust it. And when I do trust it, things work out for me, and they've always worked out for me.

SPEAKER_02 54:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

Right? And the fear is normal because that's what keeps us safe. And we can love that side of ourself and do the thing anyway and choose to believe anyway.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

You know, I don't think belief is fully without doubt. I think that it's I it's the separation piece, you know. I do feel anxiety and I do feel a knowing. I feel both of them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:41

So what are you gonna do now? Like with your gifts? Like, are you trying to work on them? Are you trying to continue to like avoid them? Or like how are you feeling about it today? Um, mediumship? Yeah, mediumship. Like the channeling is something that you want to tap into even more, right?

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Like, um, channeling I feel pretty, pretty good with. Um I'm I I know that I'm good at that. That is what I like to do. I like to help women who have disconnected from their body connect back into their tuition in intuition and then also connect to that spiritual, the spiritual side, the connection piece. So they connect to themselves and then they connect to their like world and space and environment and all of those things. Because first it has to happen with you, right?

SPEAKER_00 55:22

Like but can you define the difference between channeling and mediumship?

SPEAKER_01 55:26

I don't think that there well, I do think it is a difference. There is a difference. So for me, there is anyway, it's a feeling. Um, for channeling, when I channel, I channel into like your person, like your being, your feeling. So when I channel into you, M, I feel an immediate like attitude. I feel an immediate attitude that I know is not mine. Yeah. And from there, it's it's like almost like a roadway for me, like a clear roadway. And then it opens up into like your mind is the only way that I can see it's like this blank space where things can drop in for me.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

Where things can drop into me. And I and I get that feeling of separation from soul and body.

SPEAKER_02 56:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:07

Right? I am less body, more soul. Okay. I don't feel grounded at all. Does that make sense? So that's what like channeling is for me. Like I feel into your body and what you need physically because you are here for mediumship. The one time that I did it, you know, it felt very much like somebody was coming from an outside space through me.

unknown 56:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

And I was communicating that feeling to another physical person that was that was there. Okay. It didn't feel like their emotion, it felt like someone else's.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 56:39

That does make sense.

SPEAKER_01 56:40

I think I first had to like connect to their energy and their emotion to feel what theirs looked, what theirs felt like, what and then what my feels like, and then what somebody else's feels like. It felt very separate. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:51

What do you, I mean, like we talked earlier about like how empaths sometimes can like, you know, it can be easy for them to kind of like tap in and figure out what's yours versus what's mine. I I am an empath and I have a hard time with that. So I'm kind of curious, do you have any thoughts on like how to pay attention to what's mine versus what's somebody else's and like how that works for you? Like when you're feeling someone else's energy.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

I will take back what I said about it being easy because I need to agree that it's so hard when you're an empath to feel all of the feelings and then not know which one's yours and which one's theirs. And it is something that you have to work on, and it's a muscle that you have to like do. What I mean, what I meant by easy is it's easy to pick up on every single person's, even slight of tone, movement, body language, facial expression. You can feel the energy in the room move. And you probably had to do that because it kept you safe. And you had then adapted your behavior to prevent something from happening somewhere along in your in your lifetime.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:53

Right. That is a skill that you honed is learning cues, right? And that's why you can scan a room, you can figure out who is distressed, you can figure out who has is in anxiety or a crisis, you can figure out who is in alignment, you can figure out anything. And I can't really explain why that happens or how we do that, but it's a feeling in your body, and that's when I talk about the feeling in your body, that's what I mean. Okay. Right. And then empaths usually subconsciously adapt their behavior to their environment to make keep themselves safe or to make themselves likable or yeah, to make themselves successful in a room, whatever it is. For me, I meditation is the only way that I was able to separate it. I had no idea. Yeah. The only I had no idea what my body and my soul felt like. Like truly had no idea because I was so busy figuring every everybody else out. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:42

A lot of like having to read the room, having to understand where someone else is coming from, being confused, maybe like about how to read the room.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

Like um, I think that I just did it. And I think that a lot of people just do it without even knowing that they're doing it. Yeah. Yeah. The hard piece was sitting alone, was sitting in silence, was being alone with my my own person. You know, if you're somebody that needs to be constantly entertained or doing something and distracted, that's something to look at. That's something that I did. I needed constant voices, like TV on. I needed constant music, I needed to be moving my body, doing something productive. Like I shoved productivity down my throat. Like I did not want to sit with myself at all. And I felt more comfortable serving other people, like taking care of kids or taking care of family members or talking to friends through their problems. I felt more comfortable doing that because it felt really easy to me to tune into their emotions instead of sitting with mine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:42

And like when you don't sit with your own, then you don't even know what you want or what you need or what your body's trying to tell you because you're constantly trying to worry about everybody else, make sure everybody else is good instead of yourself.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

How did you learn how to sit in the silence and sit in the uncomfortability of that?

SPEAKER_01 59:56

Um, I started with meditation. I started with guided meditations for five minutes, like literally five minutes. That's all I could do. Five minutes felt like a lifetime. Eventually, you know, like it was it was really hard. It was really hard, and I had to be really disciplined to do that. Um eventually, and I I don't even know the time, but it felt like a really long time before I was able to listen to music instead of somebody's voice guiding me through a meditation.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

Oh, okay. Why is that? Because you needed the the instruction?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:24

I needed the instruction, and I think that people like think that meditation is just clearing your thoughts and just and I honestly thought that, but it's not. It's the discernment of you're going to have thoughts, can you let them go and flow through your body so that you can come back and center back? Yeah. And that's that's the practice, is letting go, letting go, letting go, letting go. And that helps with the limiting beliefs, the fear, the shame, and the separation of feelings too. That helps is what is my thought? What is somebody else's thought? Is this true in my body? That was the only way that I could do that for me. The only way. Yeah. And in the beginning, I needed that guided voice, like clearing. Now envision this, now envision this. Like, you know, I needed that because I had so many thoughts enter my brain, and I would have to come back and listen to what they were that audio was saying to me.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

That was helpful for pulling you back.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

It was helpful for pulling me back, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

Wow, that's so crazy. I I think that I have the same experience a lot with guided meditation. Like sometimes I can sit in silence, and then other times I just like need the the stimulation from the guided meditation to be able to remain focused because my mind will go in a million different directions and it's hard to shut that down.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:31

Like it hard. And sometimes I like, I mean, I still do it. Sometimes I'll do like a guided chakra clearing, and then I will go into like a frequency music. Like your you can just look it up. There's like a third eye frequency on YouTube. There's heart frequency. There's some people that I really like that I always go to and I keep an app, a list on my on my notes. Um I'll just click on it. But I initially, usually I do need a guided one to get me into the space, and then I can sit now. I can sit in meditation with a frequency for some I'll I'll lose time.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:01

And do you ever like get worried about tapping into a spirit and talking to somebody like when you're in that meditative state because I know it like still freaks you out?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:10

Yeah, I don't. And I don't know why. I don't know why I don't know why. And that's the piece that I don't understand is how I've been able to set such a strong boundary in meditation where they do not fuck with me. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:21

Maybe just feeling like you have more control over your own mind.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:24

Maybe when you're in meditation. Maybe interesting. But that's really like really helped me also like not get exhausted by being around people, not trying to fix every single fucking problem that is comes into my environment and take it on emotionally because I was doing that. That's just not fair to the people around me. Like I was getting so resentful of friends, family, relationships. Like, that's just not how I wanted to feel about people. I wanted to let things go and like let them be human and just like even vent. So I it's been so helpful for that is just like really learning my own soul and what that feels like so that I can release everything else. That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:03

You've been on quite a journey. I mean, have starting from a young as a young kid, like being, you know, scared to be going to bed, right? And like afraid that somebody's in your room, to figuring out what are my boundaries with this and how do I use it to help people in the way that I feel comfortable doing, right? And like in the ways that are healing for me and in the ways that are healing for other people. Like, how can I use this gift and you know, channel it into channeling instead of, you know, mediumship and you know, allowing yourself to kind of explore what the other options are. That's so cool. And just that you were able to have that experience with your grandmother, that it was so healing. I think that really speaks a lot to the healing powers of connecting with the other side, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:47

Like you knew she was safe, you knew she was taken care of, you knew you didn't have any questions, it sounds like I had no questions, no questions, and I do think that that mediums do give that experience to so many people.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

Like they have so many questions and they want to ask or talk or have any validation that the somebody is still okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:09

Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:10

That they're still with us, right? Yeah, yeah. That they're watching what what's going on and like a, you know, they're not spying on you kind of thing, but they know what's going on, right? Like it's kind of nice to know that our loved ones on the other side know what we're up to now and like what we've been doing with our lives. Like it's it's kind of really beautiful. And like I'll never forget I had a medium once that I went to tell me that uh our friend who passed Zaire that he stands behind me when I'm brushing my teeth and looking in the mirror, he's standing behind me laughing at me. It's not surprising to be at that hysterical because he used to make fun of me for brushing my teeth so much and my night guard that I wear at night because I grind my teeth. And he used to think that was so ridiculous. He would call it my hockey mouth guard. And uh just so it's just so cool to be like, oh wow, like he's still with me. And I've had experiences with him too, where I'm like, I had a moment actually similar to you on the couch where I was seated on the couch and I just like felt him sit next to me. I I literally have no idea how to describe it, but I just like was sitting there and I was it was like near the anniversary of his death, and I was just like feeling kind of sad about him. And then I just like felt his energy sit next to me and like give me a hug. And it, I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but that's exactly what I felt. And then I I had another time where I was like walking on my road and just like out for a little walk, listening to a podcast, whatever. And really weird, I just like randomly like felt him come up beside me and kind of like hold my hand and be like, Hey M, like what are you doing? Like, I want to walk with you too. And that was just so cool. And like it wasn't I wasn't even thinking of him. I had like no, you know, I wasn't sad about him dying. Like I wasn't, you know, in that headspace. I was just kind of like having a normal day, and then he was there. And it was just a really crazy experience. And those are things that I used to think that I was insane for. Like I used to think that like that's not real or that like it's not actually happening, and that like my Imagination and is just flying away. And I think that like there's so many things that we used to, you know, understand and like try to debunk and you know, make it so that it's not real. But I think it's there's power in just believing that it's real and that it just is what it is, and um, that I don't have to be afraid of it and that I can just accept that this is a part of my life, and it's still something, you know, I would in no way call myself a medium. Um, like, and I'm definitely not practicing, that's for sure. Not a practicing, like, I'm not, you know, you can't buy a session with me, at least not yet. But it's just like it's been really cool and just listening to other people's experiences of their medium ship abilities, like kind of coming online, like when things like became clear to them. Like I've been listening to the medium in the middle, her podcast, and she tells you to go back to podcast one and you know, listen from the very beginning to one through ten is like her story of how she became a medium. And it's just been really interesting because I've had a lot of similar experiences as to what she has experienced. But if we don't define it, then we just kind of think that it's this weird thing where our imagination has gone wild, right? Like she would say she says that there was like a time she was driving down the highway and she, you know, this like random, like she she used to basically think that her thoughts were just random thoughts that were happening to her. Like she would have a random thought of, like, oh, I bet someone died here and they were 62 years old and a female and they were blah, blah, blah. Right. And she was like, I used to think that was just random thought that I had. And then I realized that was me actually connecting with the other side and like someone did die there and they were 62 and like whatever it is. So um just having some of those experiences for myself has been really validating and asking for signs, like asking for signs and looking for them, and sometimes giving them a timeline or you know, allowing it to just kind of unfold however it's supposed to, depending on the day. Um, but that's been really cool. And like I did have an experience where I was driving home from work one night and it was like really late, and um, I was listening to like something country or something like that. And then on my and then immediately like I was on I was listening to an album, like back to back. And so like it wasn't on shuffle, it wasn't on like random, you know, music or a playlist. It was just like a specific album I was listening to. And then I was like, I it kind of glitched for a second, and then my song with Zaire came out. No way, yes, which is a rap song. So I'm like, I'm listening to this like country album driving home, and then randomly this song just comes on. Yeah. Like so super cool having those experiences where, like, you know, letting those things be signed is has been like a challenge for me. But like, how do you explain that? Right. And like the more we have those experiences of like, how do you explain that? The more I'm like, okay, I'm I'm locked in here. Like this is, you know, this is where I'm supposed to be and what I'm supposed to be believing. And I know that sounds crazy to some people, but it's also so exciting. And for me, it's helped me to like expand my view of the world. And it it feels it feels exciting and it feels abundant. It doesn't feel like scary or closed off. So that's something that I've enjoyed about this journey.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:11

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:13

I love that. Following the feeling, following what lights you up and following the excitement. Like that is the intuitive path, like that is the aligned path. Um, and every time that I've trusted that feeling, it's worked out.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:23

Yeah, yeah, beautiful. Okay, well, next week we're gonna talk to you guys about nervous system regulation. So get ready for that. Remember to take your deep breaths, remember to be present where you are, and we'll talk to you next week.