Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast Episode 5

Episode 5 of the Crank I  Up Sports Card Podcast keeps the energy rolling as Matthew Epperson and Parker Johnson dive deeper into the biggest conversations happening in the sports card hobby. From hot rookies and trending products to hobby strategy and market movement, the episode delivers a fun mix of insight, entertainment, and authentic card shop conversation. Listeners can expect bold opinions, current sports talk, and plenty of laughs as the guys break down what collectors should be watching right now.

The episode also highlights the community side of the hobby, discussing collecting stories, recent pulls, and the excitement surrounding today’s sports card market. Whether you are ripping wax every week, chasing grails, flipping cards, or simply enjoying the hobby with friends, Episode 5 offers something relatable for every collector. It is another fast-paced episode that captures the passion and excitement behind Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to the Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast with the shop manager Parker and the co-host Matthew.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Guys, thank you for coming back to watch our fifth episode. Can you believe we've made it?

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Well, they're not coming back to watch our fifth episode. They're watching, and this is our fifth episode.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Right, right. Yeah.

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They tell me not to correct the shop manager.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Let's just get right into it. Um, I got a few, I got a few things I'm gonna read off to you. I just want to know your opinion. I just I feel like I come here every week just to get your opinion on this. That's why we do these things. You just want to hear what I have to say. I can't even formulate my own, like I've been told to formulate my own thoughts, and I just can't. I gotta like everything that I think and feel, I'm getting from other people. And I have I have I I can't I can't even know what to think yet. I don't even know what to think. This is a big one that I feel like people have been talking about. Okay. At least in the shop. I don't know if anybody else is talking about I'm eager to hear this. There's a guy uh named Jordan. Shout out, Jordan, who works in the shop. Okay. Uh he also does whatnot. Um and he's been talking about this a lot. Uh SGA flopping. Flopping. He's he's mad about it. And I I tend to agree with how much has been going on. Um, that it's just kind of boring. And he's he's saying, is it ruining basketball? Is it ruining basketball, everybody flopping?

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Well, I I don't know that he's necessarily running it, running basketball. Um I I have seen a lot of people talk about him flopping, yeah, him getting uh the ticky-tack fouls. I don't like it when a shooter goes up and he initiates the contact and and they call a foul on him. I know. I that should not be a foul. Like he he moves his his position to where he's fouling somebody. Yeah, I don't believe that should be called a foul. Yeah, I agree. I think they're just in the moment of trying to get a point. They're trying to get uh you know anything, get to the foul line so they can get a point. I I don't feel like that's fair. Yeah, if it's my team now, yeah, I want it called.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

But right, right, right. But when you're initiating that, I don't know. To me, it's such a prevalent part of the game these days where you just I mean, everybody's doing it. And that's another thing that we could talk about is back in the day, I mean, they weren't doing that as much. I feel like people today they just seem soft. Are they soft these days?

SPEAKER_02 2:36

I I think so.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

It feels that way.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Back in the in the 90s, I believe if you got fouled, you felt it.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

Yeah.

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And uh it it was it was definitely more significant than some of these fouls that they're calling in today's basketball games.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

I agree. I think uh I may have said I may have even said this on the podcast. Um, I know I told you, but I saw this video of uh Bryce Harper getting hit in the face with like a 95 mile an hour pitch. Hit in the face with a baseball, 95 miles an hour, and LeBron just barely getting touched, and the videos were overlaid and uh or clipped side by side, and there was a uh a timer and LeBron was on the ground longer than Bryce Harper was on the ground. Harper was already back up, ready to go, uh, and uh and LeBron was just uh laying on the ground, all that everything. It's just it's just kind of funny because that is a big part of the sport these days, is they just you know, but it just it just comes across as so like I get that there's you know strategy to it, but man, you just look wimpy.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Yeah. I believe there's a there's a term for that. Uh people in my day would have called them, called them charmin because they're so soft.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

That was uh that took me a second, but that was a good dad joke.

unknown 3:54

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

I liked it.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

I got a bunch in the chamber.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

I I feel like you do. Uh dads or the jokes? The jokes. Okay. He's a father. Um sorry. Okay, what else do I have? I don't even know if I have anything else. Do you have any questions? We have hot takes. We do have hot takes. We have um there's gonna be quite a few hot takes, but I don't want to get into that yet unless you don't have anything for me. I feel like you I feel like I feel like you need some of my wisdom.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Your your knowledge. Yeah. Okay. Um I've I've heard a lot of people uh come in this shop and I've had conversations with many people um about the hobby of collecting sports cards. Imagine that. I I work at a sports card shop and people.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

I don't talk about hobby stuff ever while we're at work.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Okay. Um many people are asking, um, you know, how you make money, how do you make money in this hobby? Do I what's the best strategy? What uh what should I do? What um should I have a whatnot stream? Should I have an eBay page? Should I do this? Uh just go to shows. What, in your opinion, is the best way uh to make money in the hobby?

SPEAKER_01 5:15

I think that flipping like okay, so flipping things I think is one of the safer ways because you never know what's gonna happen. If you're if you're doing like try to make money off of current players, like buying singles, you never know what's gonna happen. It's hard to hold, it's hard to predict that. It's hard to buy a player and hold them as like more of a long-term investment. I think just uh flipping would be the easiest, just buying singles and trying to flip them while they're hot, um, and just seek out those those uh deals like that. Um I know in the shop we've gotten burned on cards before. Everybody gets burned on cards, but I mean I we can talk about con for a little bit specifically. That's the most recent and maybe the most drastic, at least that I can think of in recent memory. Um we had some con stuff that was like $500 rookie cards, autograph rookie autos that were fourteen hundred dollars, uh that case hit headliners that was like $3,500 to $4,000. And every single one of them is at least down by 50%. Some more. Like that that green is only about a hundred dollar card now. That uh headliners case hit. I think I think it lasts sold for like $1,200. It's bad. So, like, I mean, that's scary, you know? If you're an individual person who's trying to make a little bit of money doing that, that's scary because you could have forked over thousands of dollars and just immediately lost a bunch. Now, if you're doing it at such a high velocity and you're winning a whole lot more than you're losing, hopefully, then it's okay, and then the numbers then the numbers make sense and stuff. But I to me, if you flipped that quickly though, while he was hot, you would have made money, you know.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

What do you feel like uh contributed to him going down so much?

SPEAKER_01 7:12

I think it's all about hype. I think it's all about hype. I think Khan's uh value will actually be okay. I I don't think it like because you saw it with Drake May, too. His stuff just absolutely exploded. Um and then it dropped drastically when he did not win. Um, and I think that uh it's definitely rebound from the bottom a little bit, not up to the highs of the hype when he was actually playing and uh going for the uh Super Bowl win and stuff. Um, but definitely up since the bottom. I think that people um I think people when they see that their card is starting to go down, then they put it on real quick, and then they lower it even more because they don't want to get stuck with it, and then that just shows a lower comp and then that happens until it bottoms out. I mean, kind of the same way with like stocks and stuff. It's FOMO, people fear of missing out, and people are just like, Oh my gosh, I gotta get the money right now quickly, and uh and so then they're willing to take a little bit less for it because they don't want to get stuck with it holding it at the bottom, but then they go right back up. I mean, he's a good enough player to where I think it'll go right back up. And these prices that we're seeing right now, yeah, maybe they won't be as high as when he was in the rookie of the year race, but I think they'll definitely go up from the bottom, and I think I think he's bottoming out right now. I think it's a probably a really good time to buy him.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

I think especially with uh a product that comes out that's newly released, that's probably the best time to sell it because it it's eventually going to hit kind of a bottom or a um a little bit of a floor.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

Um, people ask us all the time, should I grade this when they first hit it in in the shop? My opinion is go ahead and sell it.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

Because it yeah, it could possibly be the same value as a PSA 10 as it would be a new product coming out the you know, the day of release or maybe the weekend of or of a release when everybody's watching eBay. Uh, I've seen that happen many a times where uh somebody sent it off and it wasn't as valuable as when they could have sold it initially.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Even if it got a tent. So yeah. No, I agree 100%.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

I think uh Khan did have a maybe a couple of rough weeks there at the end of his season, and he's not playing basketball right now.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

So um obviously he can't improve his stock right now.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 9:35

Um, so that's I think probably one of the deciding factors on uh his value going down just a little bit. I think he's a tremendous player. Uh I've been reminded of that because my son's a Duke player, and and when everybody was high on Cooper coming out, he said, hey, pay attention to Khan as well. Yeah. Uh of course he also said Seon James and Malawak and anybody else that played at Duke. But I believe that's a pretty good class once you start dissecting it and when some of those uh other players start playing and get the opportunity. I think that's going to be a good class.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

I think so too, yeah. Um, did you have anything else before we move on?

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Um I I know we have a bunch of hot takes. A bunch of hot. So we should probably go ahead and move on.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

That's what I think too. We got a bunch of them, and the reason why we have a bunch of them is because people, some feedback um that we got from the three people who watched the previous podcast, um, is that uh maybe one day we'll hit four people.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

If we hit four views, I think we're getting there.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

I mean your mom, your dad, my dad. There's four.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

There's four right there. We need a couple other people in uh was it Germany? Where were people watching? UK. Yeah, the UK. Okay. We need a couple more people. UK people, just help us out a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Um a lot of hot takes. People were saying that they enjoyed the hot takes um that were submitted. So we we want to do that again. Yeah, we're for the people.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

Uh I'll let you get yours ready, but I believe uh let's just uh shout out Richard right now. Richard, he said that uh it takes us a little bit out of our element because it's not something that uh we talk about you know frequently. A lot of the hot takes that we had were on football and we're more baseball guys, and it takes us a little bit out of our element. He likes to see us sweat a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

He does. He I think he uh, you know, he's at the end of the day, man, he might be preying on our downfall, you know. Nope. Appreciate Richard. He's a good customer. Richard's a good guy. What you got, Parker? Um, I got a couple different oh man. This one's a doozy right off the bat. We got uh Wimbin Yama. I don't know if he spelled that right. Um Wimbin Yama will be top uh Man, I I can't hardly even read this. I can make fun of this one because it Jordan extra. Jordan. I don't even think he this is just I can't just call him Wimby. Yeah, yeah. Wimby will be top of all time by the end of his career. That just doesn't even feel like that flows right. Wimby will be the top of all time. The top of all time? We'll say top five of all time. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

I think I can defend Jordan here and uh and say I think that's a good uh hot take.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

A good thing?

SPEAKER_02 12:21

I think uh he's defensively he's good. He's a big man that can uh shoot the ball outside the perimeter. Um so I I think that's a good hot take, Jordan. Uh if if he plays consistently like he can play up to his potential. I believe that that over a long period of time, I mean I'm not talking five or six years, he's got to do it for an extended period of time. And well, we've had maybe four years of Wimby now. Um, I think that uh he could be a top ten player. I think he can win an MVP, multiple MVPs, defensive player of the year. Um I I think that's in his in his arsenal.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Yeah. I just think it's too early. I mean, you see players have such a hot start uh across all sports. Um they could be one of the best players at the first four or five years. And then I mean, I just think it's early to say that. I I think that it I guess if you're saying could, then yeah, could. I mean, but but anything could happen, you know. I mean, uh Khan could end up being the best player of all time, you know. But I to me, it's like to me, that's just way too early to say, oh, I think he's gonna be top five of all time or something when it when it's all said and done. I think that we need to see a few more years out of him. I think that uh it just needs to be further on in his career. Because I mean, he he is a big guy. He could get hurt. I feel like those guys tend to get hurt a lot more. He did put on some size, which is good. Um, I think that he needed that because he just looked really like he was he looked like a twig, you know, that tall and being like very, very skinny. So I think that's good, but um to me, I think it's early.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

I think one of the biggest things that concerns me with him being so big is that those big men are prone to get injured a lot. Yeah, there's just a lot of of just I mean, he's got big body parts. I mean uh but there's a lot, there's a lot that can get injured there. Yeah. Uh he's just significantly bigger than the average person, and even the average NBA basketball.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

I mean, yeah, I mean a lot of times when uh when he's playing, I mean he looks the other guys look small around him, and it's just it's crazy because he he's huge. He's seven, how tall is he again?

SPEAKER_02 14:44

I want to say seven nine.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

Crazy.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

It's huge. I could be totally off, but um, you know, there's there's so many times that there's been professional players uh that have had tremendous talent.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

And because of injuries, they're not the greatest of all time.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

Right.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

Um one of my favorite players uh growing up was King Griffey Jr. If he had healthy seasons when he got to Cincinnati, uh I think he could have been the all-time home run champion.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

I think so. I think that uh I think yeah, there's a lot of guys like that. Griffey for sure, one of them.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Um even Mickey Mannell. Uh Mickey Mann had several knee injuries. Yep. And uh, you know, he's probably uh, you know, his card is the most iconic card in all of sports, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:32

The 52 uh Mannel. I agree. Everybody uh would love to have one of those. I believe if he even if he wasn't uh you know an all-time great, I don't think you can put him in the top five uh in MLB. He's still the most uh sought after card. Yeah. Um or well, you know, somebody might collect other things and some people might not want a 1952 tops uh I I do for the record.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

So if anybody out there does have one, where do we send it? Let me know. Let me know. Cranks, Cranks Sports Trading Gallery here in Udwal, Tennessee. Okay, right across the street from Chick-fil-A.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

But injuries, injuries did hit him. Um I think if you look at the you know you're you're always gonna have arguments with the top five in any sport. Uh but if you look at uh some of the most talented players, I don't think that they're in the top ten.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

I agree. Are you ready for the next hot take?

SPEAKER_02 16:34

I'm ready for a hot take.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Another guy that comes in? Nate? Nate? Okay. Is Jordan Love gonna go down as the goat?

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Um sorry, Date.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

I I man, that's a hot I'd love, I'd love to tell you, yes, absolutely. I agree with you, hands down, but um I think it's gonna be tough for him to get to the first you know Super Bowl and win it.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

I don't think he I don't think goat is a bit much. Yeah. Is he gonna go down as good? Yeah, I think he's good. I think he's gonna go down as good. Goat? That's that's a tough it's tough. Yeah. I don't know if I can uh I don't know if I can say that. That was a quick one because uh very easy to dismiss that question.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Yeah. But I mean, as far as hot takes, most people would disagree. That's that's so it's a good hot take. That's I mean that's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

It do we call it a good hot take if most people wouldn't agree? Or a good hot take if it's like, wow, I agree with that. I think it's a bad hot take if most people agree, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:44

I yeah. I I'll I see the way you're thinking.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

See what I'm saying? Because the very nature of a hot take is supposed to be spicy.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

If everybody agreed with it, then it wouldn't be a hot take.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

It would be a bad hot take. So that was a good good hot take, Nate. That's like one of the best we've had.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

Habanero hot take.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

It's hot. All right. Uh here's another one.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

Juan Soto. Here's a baseball one. Oh, yeah. Juan Soto is underrated and undervalued in the hobby. His cards should be worth more than they are.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

I'm gonna take the side of that one. I I think I agree. Um, you know, bad hot take.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Bad hot, because I agree as well. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Well, I think he's um when he's on, he's probably top three offensive players, three or four. Yeah. Um, I think he's incredible. He reaches base uh at an insane rate. I believe he recognizes the strike zone as good as anybody in the in baseball.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

Um and if you equate that to card market, I think what hurts him the most of all is he's been on so many different teams. I mean, it's hard to even remember. Hey, he's a national, he was a national.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

I know. He was a national padre, Yankee, Yankee, and then Mets. Yeah, man. He's so young. Like, I think that's what he had because what you said on base percentage is crazy, plate discipline is crazy. He's so young that he might not have the have had the hottest start out of, you know, like as crazy as people like Mike Trout, Otani, Judge, to where like all of a sudden they were just all amazing when they first came up, it's it seems like. I mean, at most, maybe it took them a year to get really get going. Maybe he hasn't been as dominant immediately, but I feel like he's so young. Like, I think he came up at 19, and at 19 he had like over 400 on base percentage. That's crazy. And Judge came up at 24 or 25. So, like, longevity-wise, if he can do that, even if he can just be a really solid player, not the greatest, but if he can be solid, his accumulative stats and war and stuff like that, he's gonna have a stupid good um career if he can just be like good, not great.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

I think most people forget that he he's won a world series. Yeah. Um, you know, Harper left, he stepped in, they won the World Series a year after Harper left. So most people don't even remember that.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Um he's already won a World Series.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

Um, he's been he hasn't won that MVP yet, has he?

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Uh I don't think so. I don't think he has. It's gonna be bad if uh he hasn't the one of us. I don't think he has though. I think he's been close. I mean, he's been in the race a few times, but I don't think he's actually won, unless I'm just totally blanking.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

I know this isn't the the most uh important stat, but do you realize he led the league last year, national league, in stolen bases?

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Did he really?

SPEAKER_02 20:57

He was tied for number one, but he I mean he practically led and I would not have thought that.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

I wouldn't have either. I think that to your point about the so many teams, I think that's very true. He did sign with the Mets for 15 years, though. So I think that that rebounds a little bit. I think that's gonna help. I mean, I think once he's on the Mets for a couple years, I kind of think we'll maybe. I mean, no one really knows what the market's gonna do, but I kind of think that maybe we'll start to see hit for how good of a player he is, his card market actually catch up to that.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

I think what could hurt everybody's value is if Major League Baseball goes on strike next year. Yeah, that would that that's gonna kill everybody.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

For sure.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

Yeah. Um that would be that would be horrible. But as far as his uh card prices, we were talking about that. Um maybe the more years he gets under his belt in the same uniform, that's gonna help.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

I think so. Because it's like you don't know what card to collect. You're like, man, he's got oh, this is a really cool rookie card, or this is a really cool case hit, but what He's got that same case hit with four different uniforms and stuff. It's like it's kind of hard to to like if you're collecting your favorite team, well then you don't collect Juan Soto because he's on so many different teams. But now being Mets for 15 years, I think that I think that figures it's better.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Unless he opts out. He does have ops opt-outs in his contract, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

And then that could just put him in another uniform. But I know that, you know, like Yankee fans, they're not going to collect him anymore.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

No.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

And New York Met fans, they're not going to collect the let's see, it would have been the 2024 uh season of his. They don't want to see him in a Yankees uniform. Yeah. So those uh that that limits the value of those cards because there's not as many people seeking out those cards. Yep. So I believe that's uh something that's happening to him.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

I agree. I agree. So we're gonna certify that as being a bad hot take because it was a it was something we agreed with.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

We both agreed with it. So bad hot tag. Do you want me to do a hot tag?

SPEAKER_01 23:01

If you have some, I have one.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Okay. And um I you may not like this one.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

Most case hits are actually ugly and have no aesthetic appeal.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

What define most, because that most is like the biggest more than normal. Like, what are you meaning by that? Because, okay, okay, well, here, how about this? I'm gonna say a few case hits. Okay. You're gonna tell me if that falls in that category. This will tell us a lot about what uh you think looks good and not.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Uh kabooms.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

I love kabooms. Kabooms are are great.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Home field advantage.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

Hmm. Honestly, I think they kind of copy downtown too much.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Fair enough. That's fair. Okay, so so down, but since they look so similar, home field advantage and downtown, that can mean the same thing. Do you think they look good?

SPEAKER_02 23:57

I think they could do more with them.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Think they could do more with them? All right, that's fair. Color blasts.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

I like color blasts.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Color blasts are sick. Kabooms are my favorite, probably, like the way they look. Uh Planetary Pursuits from Cosmic. I know you like Cosmic.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Okay, you do like those. I do like those. All kings and all aces. I like those too. Okay, I feel like you're saying that most look good so far. Okay, let me think.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

This is a good hot take then.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

Maybe it is. But then I don't even know if you agree with your hot take. Uh Genesis from Mosaic.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

I could do without those.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Do without those.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Um I don't think they differ differentiate from a normal card at the end.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Mosaic. Yeah. They're very similar. They're very similar. I'm trying to think what some other panini case hits, because I just said like micromosaic. Micro mosaic. I don't really like the micromosaics that much. Yeah. Personally. Do you? I don't really either. I don't really either.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

And I as a matter of fact, today.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

Color wheel. That's another one.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Color wheel's okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

You could take it or leave it. I mean, if somebody's offering it up, you'll take it, but you're not going to seek it out.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

I'm not seeking it out. I think color blast for sure. Color blast and color wheels to me like look like they're very similar with what they're trying to do, but the color blasts outweigh the color wheel by a lot, I think.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

I think I would rather have a tie-dye than a yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

I think so too. The tie-dyes look awesome.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

They look really good. I like those. I'm trying to think of other case.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

That's not technically a case hit, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 25:33

But I'm trying to think, what are some other case hits? Oh, the uh you have like the Prismania.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

I don't care for Prismania.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

I think the headliners out of Finest, I think those look similar to the like they both have big heads.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

Do you feel like they're just they're copying each other? Or maybe Topps is copying Panini?

SPEAKER_01 25:54

I think they might be copying each other, I think, but it see, I think that that's a a good thing because uh what's that quote that um it's the sincerest form of flattery? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

Uh yeah, they're imitating.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

So is that what it is? Yeah, uh so I think they should be flattered. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

But I'm sure Panini's flattered right now as they see similar cards being put out.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But uh, I don't know. I think that saying most that is a hot take because I I think that most look okay and good, and I and I'm fine with. There are some that are like that's not a very attractive looking case set. But um, so I think that's a good hot take because it was bad.

unknown 26:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

I have more. Okay. I have more from other viewers. Let's see. I read that one, read that one, I read the crazy Jordan Love one. Okay. Uh Jose Soriano. Ah, we know who this is. He had some bad takes. Sorry. Uh okay, Jose Soriano is the best pitcher in the MLB right now, unless he's pitching against the Chicago White Sox.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

I'm gonna have to disagree with that.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

I disagree too. He said that he gave uh he's given up 10 runs, and eight, I think he said eight of them have been with the Chicago White Sox.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

Yeah. So he's only given up two. It's pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 27:30

I think the White Sox are better than than they've been in previous years.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

For sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

But I don't think Soriano's uh the best pitcher. If I had a game seven right now, I'm taking Paul Skeens.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Yeah, I'm not I'm there's no way I'm taking Jose Soriano. I think that he is doing phenomenal. Um and there's an argument of like, okay, the best pitcher or the hottest pitcher? Because I think there's a difference. You can get really hot for a few games where you are just untouchable. But that but does that translate to the best overall season? I don't think so. I think that he's really good. I think he started the year off very strong. And who knows, maybe he even finishes the year off very strong. I don't know. Maybe he does. Um, but to me, I'd think it's way too early uh to say he's the best pitcher in baseball.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

I think he's a um pretty much a surefire all-star at this point.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

I think so.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

And he's probably in the top three of Cy Young in the American League. Uh but if I had a game seven starting tomorrow, uh Skeens is there, maybe Scoobyl. Um I might even go Chris Sale.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Chris Sale's Chris Sale's looking good, but you are a Braves fan, so you're probably biased. Uh that's that's I mean I'm a Braves fan too. No, you're not. I don't know why I just said that. Established that in the last podcast. I mean, we are Braves fans, but yeah, we are.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

Uh quotation marks.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

This is the last one. Did you have any others?

SPEAKER_02 29:03

I actually do.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Okay. Um well you do one more and then I'll or okay. However many more you have, and then I'll do my last one.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Uh this is more so about the hobby. Okay. Uh, most people have no clear direction on what they collect.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

That's interesting. That's very broad too. Uh man, what's most people? I feel like most people have a favorite team. I feel like most people probably have a favorite player or top three players that they like to collect. If we're talking about so, so like I would disagree in that sense. But if we're that's why it's I feel like it's broad, because if we're talking about like brand, or if we're getting really technical with it, like okay, autographs or patches, or this type of numbered cards, or I want to collect the rainbow of this uh card, or I'm only getting this guy's rookies, or I'm only collecting the team set, then yes, I think it could vary a lot right there. Because oh my goodness, there's a whole lot of products that release. I mean, I don't know what the number is, the exact number, but hundreds of products release every year. So in that aspect, I could I could see that. But in if we're zooming out a little bit, I feel like most people have a favorite team and most people have a couple favorite players that they like to collect.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

I think this hot take is is going along the lines of uh people are letting the hobby dictate what's valuable and what's not valuable to them. That's fair. Yeah, you know, they they know this certain card is valuable because it's numbered to this certain uh extent. They uh think this card is valuable because it's a case hit, supposedly.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

And they're not necessarily, okay, I am collecting the team set, I am collecting all the braves out of this uh product.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

I don't think they're doing that anymore as much as they used to in the when I was growing up in the 90s. Of course, there was a lot less cards to collect in the 90s. Um lot less sets. Yes. They they had a lot of inserts, yeah. Um, and we see that now. But um Were they printing cards back when you were growing up? They do.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

When did they put were the is that when they had the the big printer where they had like the thing that came down and it was like flat right here, and you had to push it down like this. Is that what they were doing?

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Yeah, yeah. Well, actually they had this big uh stone and a chisel and something that mimicked a hammer. I they may not even call it a hammer at that time.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

They probably didn't. That's more like that's more recent. Yeah. Well, that's interesting. Well, um that was a I feel like that is a very that's a very mid hot take, because parts of that I agree with, parts of it I would disagree with. To me, that's like a that's like a it's like it's a take.

SPEAKER_02 31:59

It's like Taco Bell hot sauce, it's kind of still kind of mild.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

It's a take. Yeah. I mean not hot, not cold. It was just it was there. It was a take.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

You have one more?

SPEAKER_01 32:10

I have one more. My phone's upside down, hold on. Okay. Uh here's another football one. Uh Patriots will miss the playoffs next season. Now they don't have any now, they don't have an easy schedule.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

I don't think they'll miss the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

I don't think so either.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

Will they make it as far as they did this year? I mean, I don't think so. How much of a harder schedule is it? It is pretty tough. Um, I haven't seen the whole thing, but I heard somebody talking about it on sports radio.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

Really?

SPEAKER_02 32:45

Um, it is pretty tough. It was it was pretty bad last year. I mean, they had I think it was the easiest schedule to get to the Super Bowl than any other team that had reached the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Okay. Well, I I think they still have the pieces to where they can be good, and I think they will be good. Um I don't know. That's a good one. I I just I think I think they'll go far. Maybe not as far, but I think they've get definitely have the pieces to to excel.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Yeah. I I think they'll at least reach the um, you know, it's not too hard to get to the one-card, right?

SPEAKER_01 33:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

People do it all the time. Teams do it all the time. I I think they can make they can make the playoffs at least.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

I think so. Um, okay. So this is coming out the 27th. Trying to see what uh what we got going on the 27th. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. In just a few days, we're gonna be having our uh trade night for the flip. All right. So we'll be at the flip show. Y'all come see us at the flip show. We're gonna be hosting the trade night for the flip show. Um that'll be a lot of fun. What are we gonna have going on then?

SPEAKER_02 34:00

Same same thing that we usually have at all of our other trade nights, uh, but it'll be hosted by us. It's in uh it's coinciding with that flip show. We'll have things like uh we'll have breaks, we'll have uh some giveaways. We always have giveaways that are trade night.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Sweet.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

We'll have different games that people can play, home run to return on uh be fun. The switch. Uh so that it'll be a fun time.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

That will be fun. We got a lot of nice products coming up. Yes. Um by this point, we are definitely gonna be having top's finest football. Super excited for top's finest football. We will have the Bowman U, uh Bowman Bowman's Best basketball. That one will be really fun. Um, I'm excited for that. Uh I'm trying to think cosmic football. I don't know if I know the exact date on that, but that's gonna be coming out. Um cosmic football or cosmic basketball between the two. They're coming out pretty close together. We already have the basketball in shop. Which one are you were you looking forward to most?

SPEAKER_02 35:06

I think most people look forward to the the football, but I think because of the rookie class, if I had if I could buy one or the other box, I'm probably going basketball.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Are you going basketball?

SPEAKER_02 35:20

I'm going, I'm going flag hunting.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

That's fair. I mean, he's he's a big one. Uh, and then this is the last one, speaking of going flag hunting. Uh, signature series basketball comes out or signature class. Is it signature class? Yeah, top signature class.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

They didn't do that for basketball last year. No, that's why they're doing it for that.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

They did it for football. Yeah, but that's gonna look look at that. They probably won't be able to see that on the camera, but look at that. It looks nice.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

That does look nice.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

I don't know if uh probably can't see that, but go look it up yourself. Um, it's a LeBron LeBron auto right there. It looks really nice. I'm excited for that product. We'll have that as well. Um, so I'm excited. We got a lot of fun stuff coming up um with releases and then our uh the trade night that we're gonna have. Um and I'm excited.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

It's been exciting doing five episodes with you.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Fifth episode? We're five in.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

We're five in. Hopefully, uh many more to come.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

Yeah. I mean, I'd I'd be happy with it at least five more.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

If we if you told me right now that we were halfway through and we're never gonna do any more podcasts, I'd be like, man, maybe I'd want a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

I would.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

Let us know if y'all would want a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

I think they do.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

I can I can look through that lens there and I can tell. You can tell. All right. Well, guys, thank y'all for tuning in. Uh, I mean, maybe maybe you didn't tune in. Maybe we're not talking to anybody right now. Or maybe we have like a lot of viewers right now. I don't know. But thank y'all for tuning in uh for today's podcast. It was the fifth one. Um let us know your hot takes. Drop them uh in the comments below. Maybe uh maybe we'll be able to use them for the next podcast. Um if you've enjoyed it, like it, share it, subscribe, do whatever you gotta do to keep this going. Cause right now uh we're just putting money into this. Uh and we don't, I mean, my pockets, I don't got anything else left in them.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

Well, shop shop manager money's run dry.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

It's running dry. It's running dry. But uh thank y'all for tuning in, and we'll see y'all in the next one. See you next time.