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Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast Episode 6

Matthew Epperson and Parker Johnson Season 1 Episode 6

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Episode 6 of the Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast is officially live, and this one is packed with sports card hobby discussion from start to finish!

Join Matthew and Parker as they dive into some of the biggest topics currently impacting collectors. From the latest product releases and market trends to hobby hot takes and current sports headlines, the guys break down what collectors should be watching and talking about right now.

This episode also explores one of the hobby's biggest debates: collecting versus investing. Has the hobby changed over the years? Are collectors focusing too much on value, or is investing simply another part of the collecting experience? Matthew and Parker share their perspectives and discuss how today's hobby continues to evolve.

The conversation doesn't stop there. They talk about ripping wax, chasing big hits, grading cards, building personal collections, and identifying players who could make waves in the market. Whether you're a seasoned collector, a weekend ripper, or someone returning to the hobby after years away, there's something for everyone in this episode.

If you enjoy sports cards, hobby discussions, collector opinions, and staying up to date on what's happening in the sports card world, be sure to give Episode 6 a listen.

Tune in now and join the conversation. Let us know your thoughts and what topics you'd like to hear covered in future episodes of the Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast!

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Welcome to the Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast with the shop manager Parker and the co-host Matthew. What's up guys? Thank y'all for coming back. This is our sixth episode. Sixth episode. Sixth episode. It feels uh like it's been a while uh for us, not for y'all, but because uh I was out of town, Matthew was out of town. We pre-recorded a few of them, and so we're back. We're rested up a little bit. Uh maybe maybe a little darker. Are you a little darker? I am not a little darker. I might be a little darker. Uh maybe a little taller. I don't think so. Okay, maybe not a little taller. Uh but we're back, and we're happy to be here for episode six. They said we'd never make it. Well, they did. Some some did. I don't know if they did. Um I think we had some people rooting for us, actually. Great. We have a lot of people that have uh talked about the podcast in the shop, and yeah. Uh a lot of people have given us some uh some hot takes, some criticisms, some um they don't like to hear you as loud, they need me louder. I know. I know. Maybe that'll be fixed a little bit. Uh the one thing that you said in that sentence that really stuck out to me though was hot takes. Hot takes. You want to jump right in? I think so. Let's jump right into hot takes. That seems like to me like most people's favorite segment. I I like it myself. Yeah. I have a hot take, or do you want to start? You start. Okay. Uh the hobby has become too greater heavy. Like that we're grading too much. Grading too many cards. I think that I would 100% agree with that and look at PSA, because they just totally shut down like every value uh send-off, whatever it is. What do you call that? Value bulk, whatever. You know, they they just shut that down. I think it's just regular, which is like 80 or 90 bucks. So you gotta spend 80 or 90 dollars for one card. That makes so many cards not worth sending off. It definitely eliminates a lot of cards. It yeah, it it kind of secludes a whole you know part of the hobby. Because there's a lot of people who kind of lower end cards is what they do. You know, buy a $20 card, grade it, uh, and then they're into it for about $50 and flip it for $100 if it gets a $10, you know. So like there's a lot of people that are kind of doing it at a at a smaller level, and that that shuts that down immediately. Nobody can do that. Because if you're if if the goal is to buy a $20 card, grade it for $30, into it for $50, and then you sell it for $100, well, if you're spending $80, that same that you're into it for $100. You can't this is this is I just thought of this. Is that gonna make PSA 10s more expensive in the short amount of time that they're gonna be closed? Or maybe not short amount of time. I don't know how long they're gonna be not doing that. I honestly hope that it brings up the price of nines. Uh, we talked about uh in the shop that nines we feel like that they should be a little more valuable than just a raw card. And um I I think that possibly could drive them up a little bit. It's funny that we did take a couple of days off uh from uh doing normal things around here. Yeah. And uh, you know, one of our last episodes we talked about grading a lot, yeah, and uh we we didn't know how hot of a topic it would be you know two or three weeks later. Uh Barker and Matthew are gone. Yeah. And PSA shuts down. Yeah. I mean, some would say We're sorry. Yeah, some would say that might have been our fault. Well, if you think about it now, you're talking about the price levels that that uh PSA is grading at now. I mean, eighty dollars that eliminates a lot of cards. Yep. I I can think of you know, I I did pull a a couple of big cards recently. Yep, hot hands. People say people people are saying it. People are saying it. People are saying it. They're asking me to pick the boxes in the shop. They are they are, and you're picking dead boxes for everybody else. Well, I know where the good ones are. Yeah, apparently. Apparently you're uh I don't know how you're doing it. Just thinking about what I've pulled over the last year, that probably eliminates 99% of the cards that I've pulled. Yes. Um maybe two or three cards that I would consider worthy of grading. Yep. Uh, and then if they're in bad shape, then that eliminates them as well. Yeah. Um so I think as as people have brought stuff into the shop, I often think, why would you grade this? Yeah. Why would you there's a lot that I agree on? Like, there's a lot that it's like, man, uh I mean I you know, at the time maybe it was a good card to grade, but now it's like, you know, you have a Kyler Murray PSA 10 base chronicles. Yeah. I mean, it's like, why would you grade that? You know, maybe it's a pop one. Exactly. That's another funny thing. People come in and they bring in like a PSA 4, and it's like it's a pop one. Yeah. That doesn't mean anything. It's a bad pop one. Most likely it means that nobody else thought it was worthy of being graded. Exactly. Exactly. No. That's an interesting one. I I hope that it does make nines go up. Personally, I think that if eights could be about equal with Raw, nines may be one and a half, and then maybe tens almost three X. Because I kind of think that uh now tens kind of are 3X on certain cards, but most of the time on modern cards and uh the stuff that's not a super tough gym rate, usually it's just a 2x, you know. On the ones that are like really hard to gym, maybe maybe you're getting up into the 3x. Um but I would like to see three, three times for a PSA 10, one and a half for a nine, and raw be equivalent to an eight, I think, for modern at least. But with that same same thought process, I think more people would send cards in if they thought, well, nine's gonna be more than a than a raw now. That's true. Um, so that might not help the equation. You know, that might put more cards into uh uh PSA's backlog. It could. Um I feel like PSA just needs uh maybe some more workers. Maybe maybe they just need to you know put a little thing on the front door and just say now hiring. Now hiring. Yeah, that should do it. Maybe that'll help. Um I have a hot take. You have a hot take? I actually have a hot take submitted by a uh person. You ready for this hot take? I don't know if I can handle it. I think I know who it's from. I don't know. We put something on the story like we usually do. And thank you to all the viewers who are uh you know submitting your hot takes. Keep them coming, keep submitting those. Uh, but this was one hot take that I thought was uh interesting, and it said Matthew is better than the one and only shop manager. That is a hot take. I don't know. The shop manager, as we've said many a times, he's taught me everything he knows. Not everything you know, not everything I know, but everything he knows. And uh I I value our shop manager. Um like to walk around uh work alongside him, and uh probably not anybody else on this podcast wants to hear this, but uh I think Cranks has an incredible shop manager. Wow, well thank you. That's high praise coming from the one and only um assistant to the shop manager. He's pretty good too. Yeah, he's good. He's good. Um, that was that was uh that was a a fun one submitted by um pretty cool guy. Um I have another one here. Okay, and uh I hopefully uh you'll appreciate this one. Autographs are losing some appeal. Sticker autos and thousands of signed cards per player have made some collectors prioritize rare inserts and low-numbered cards instead. Don't even think that's a hot take. I don't even think that's just a thing. It is what it is. Man, I mean, if you think about it, if if you have think about how many products they're coming out with. I'm just gonna look something up real quick. Think about how many products they're coming out with. I mean, if you had to guess how many, how many? Like just a ballpark, or I mean different products, like there's topps, but every single topps product, every single panini product, and let's just say just for baseball, how many baseball products, different products do you think they release? In a month? In a year. In a year. Like for for all the 2026 rookies, you know, like you would have that whole 2026 market. I would say about 80. I would I'd say at least eighty. Maybe a weird one. You think I mean they're doing it about uh one about every other day. I know that that doesn't add up to to eighty, but uh you know, every once in a while there's a little space there, but it seems like there's a new product pretty much every day. If you're just talking about just baseball, I would say around eighty. Maybe so. If you're talking are you including unlicensed in that? Oh no. That's what I'm saying. I'm thinking just tops. That's what I'm saying. Like because they're not just I mean, they would sign in like Bobby Witt Jr., for instance. You know, he signs in Panini. He signs in Panini, signs in Panini quite a bit. Yeah. Uh as a matter of fact, on my hot streak, I hit a uh Bobby Witt auto number to 10. You did. I was pretty good. I I on the fly of chat G GPTing this because I'm I'm just curious. Oh, this is a good podcast right here. They're not doing this on other podcasts. No, they're not. This is on the fly. This is only us. On the fly. Okay. So what's it's it's on the fly. So that we're live. Like this is live right now. Buffering, gosh, are you are you on? No, no, no, no. You're on dial up on your phone. It's pulled up, it's pulled up. I asked it like in just 2025 Topps Chrome. Mm-hmm. Because 2025 6 is not out yet uh for baseball. So in 2025 Topps Chrome Baseball, this is what it is estimating. Now who knows if this is legitimate. Um, but just the numbered ones are over a thousand um for one player because you have over a thousand different cards. Yes, autographs because you have to 499 to 299 to 250 to 199, like all the different numbered ones, and that excludes base. So that means that you are having somewhere between two and three thousand autographs of one person in one product, okay? And that's just tops Chrome. Think about things where you have it in um Panini where they're numbering things to 999, or they're numbering or you know, where the where the numbering is way more and way higher than just to 499. I mean, then you get you get crazy numbers, right? So if each product is coming out where you're s signing at least two to three thousand, and then you have eighty to a hundred products come out, that is a ton of autos. And that's every year. And so you think about like rookie autos, or you think about Wit, who does seem to sign a lot, it really starts to feel like man, in 20 years, are those autos gonna be like nothing aside from their true rookie auto or true colors? It just feels like feels watered down, is what it feels like. I think you know, the scarcity of a player's auto in the 80s, the 90s, uh, it was because you know, you had to go to a game, you had to see him in spring training or um maybe a card show they would have somebody sign. Today, there's you know, multiple releases that have um all kinds of autographs in it. I mean, that's what we're chasing for the most part. I mean, would you rather pull a case hit of your favorite player or would you rather pull his auto? I think I would rather pull a on-card auto. If we're talking about a sticker auto, now I guess that you know, then then you get into like what's your favorite case hit and stuff. I would rather pull my favorite case hit because there's some case hits that I'm just like I could totally do without. Yeah, we talked about that a little bit. Yeah, and so I I would probably rather pull my favorite case hit than a sticker auto. But if I get like a nice, you know, low-numbered auto, I'd probably rather pull the the auto if it's on card. Um because sticker autos, I don't know. I feel like sticker autos in the future are gonna be super cheap. They're already a lot cheaper than the on card, but I think they're gonna be like dirt cheap. Because you think about it, like if if you're doing that every year, let's say Bobby, let's just, for instance, Bobby Wood Jr., since he does sign in Panini as well, you know, if he if he legitimately in, you know, 80 products, like you said, you know, and you said that was just for top. So let's say, let's say 120 products for unlicensed, because he also signs in Leaf, too. Oh my goodness. So that's bare minimum 120 products that come in. You heard it here first. Bobby Witt's on the I.O. with Carpalton. Exactly. Like I don't know how he can do that. But let's say it's uh at least 120 products, and he's signing, let's go on the the low the lower end, 2,000 um per product. This is assuming he signs in every product. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe that's unfair to say. Um but that'd be let's say it's just the 80 products. Because maybe he wouldn't sign in every single one, but 2,000 and every one he does sign in. 160,000. Does that even seem like possible? Does that even seem possible? There's no way that seems like way too much. I wonder if you're not going to be able to think it's in the thousands. It's gotta be. Well, that's uh it's thousands for just one product, surely. Yeah. Well, I mean he signs base options. I would say that that a veteran like that is gonna sign less than a rookie, a rookie or something like that. Got to. But he he I mean he signs the base ones in Donruss, though. If you'll if you'll notice like uh the legendary autos, if you get some of those, yeah, like King Griffey Jr., right, Barry Bonds, he's gonna be a bigger one. Yeah, they're they're like always numbered now. Very low numbered. So they're not just having him sit there and Barry Bonds writing his name. I agree for those guys, but like put uh Select, Panini Prism, Donruss. He signs the base ones too. That's what I'm saying. Like he's signing the base ones. Well, Bobby Witt, especially. I mean, because he signs a lot. When Select come out, I know of at least five autos that got hit. And they were like all base, weren't they? Most of them. I think three of them were base. I don't know. Do you want to tell tell them about that? I hate that story. Why are you making me relive it? I'll relive it. Um I wanted to pull Bobby Witt Jr. auto. Uh-huh. For the people who don't know. I have a couple Bobby Wood Jr. autos, but I PC wit and trout. And I just wanted to pull one. Just because I've never pulled one. And so I uh select you have pretty good odds of of getting a wit auto. So I uh I bought like five or six boxes of them, right? Um didn't pull a single wit auto. Stop laughing, all right? Stop laughing. It's too early to laugh. I'm not even at like the punchline yet. I already know the punchline. Um two customers come in. They're great customers. Great customers. Shout out to them. Shout out to uh Richard and Tyler. Tyler. Uh our Walmart friends. Uh we're not sponsored by Walmart, but hey Walmart, we'll take a sponsorship. Uh but uh anybody that's willing to write a check. That's right. That's right. Uh but no, uh they they came in and they both bought a box, one box each. One box each. Both pulled a Bobby Witt Jr. auto. Both of them. And then you had to go buy a singular pack of heritage, Topps Heritage, on card auto, hand numbered to was it 74? 75. 76. 76. Yeah. And uh needless to say, that was a rough day for me. I had to rethink uh quite a few things. That was probably the biggest fumble. I'm not gonna say I fumble often, but that was probably the biggest fumble the shop manager has ever had. You didn't have uh contemplate life question. Yeah, I was like, am I even like worthy to be this in this position anymore? You know, can't even pull Bobby Witt off. Three people do it in the same day. So that was a rough day. Um, still recovering from that. But um, but no, that that that was fun. Uh I like to tell that story as much as I can. I know you do. I hate that story. New people that come in the shop, I'm like, hey, have you heard this story? Exactly. I know. We haven't ever seen them before. Of course they haven't. Yeah. So, anyways, but I actually have another hot take. I have one after yours. Okay, okay. This is one we talked about, actually. A little bit. All right. And I want to know what the viewers think. So y'all let us know. Comment below, come in the shop, talk with us, let me know. Is vintage too cheap compared to modern, or is modern too high compared to vintage? Because do you pull some like case hits or autos of you know, some of these brand new rookie players, especially in Bowman, like Bowman First not even made it into the majors yet? And they're outselling some of these all-time greats by sometimes thousands of dollars. Yeah. Um, and it's crazy. To me, it's crazy. So what what which one do you think it is? You think vintage is under or do you think modern is way over? As much as I think vintage is a higher price point at most most cases, um, because you're just dealing with base cards. I mean, there's no inserts on that 50s and 60s stuff. You might find a a subset in the set, uh, like an all-star card or an EA ERA leaders or or something of that effect. Um I kind of think that vintage is undervalued. Vintage is under. So you're going with the under on vintage. I would kind of go with the over on modern. I think that's the same thing. I no, no, no, no. Because I think so. What are we saying? I think vintage is properly valued. I don't think it's undervalued or overvalued. I'm saying that I think modern is overvalued, and you're saying that you think vintage is undervalued and modern's properly valued. Well, now that you put it that way, you know, it it takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. Okay. And uh I'm not a big man, so um. But yeah, I actually do agree with what you're saying. I think maybe vintage is properly because I mean some some of those uh vintage cards, you know, we'll be going through. And it's it is harder for us to uh know the value of some of those. Sometimes we'll go through them three or four times and then somebody will come in the shop and say, Hey, you might want to pull this out, it might be more valuable at a high number or something like that. There's all kinds of different equations to that. True. Um I I think you you're probably right though. Vintage probably is is adequately priced, and maybe some of the modern stuff, especially when the guy hadn't even seen a pitch in Major League Baseball. I think it's a little different for baseball than some of the other sports because there's so much time that it takes for a uh prospect to reach the major leagues. I think that's been cut down a little bit as well. Um, you know, when you s first started hearing about major league prospects, you know, 80s, 90s, it took them four or five years to get there. Yeah. Now they're kind of fast tracked. Um by the time they reach 20, if they're not in the big leagues, um, people are starting to question whether they'll ever catch on. Yeah, which I mean maybe you shouldn't because Judge was like 24. Yeah. I think I think he was 24 when he made his debut. So that's a late debut, and if if he just was kind of pushed to the side, we wouldn't have gotten judge. Could you imagine 23-year-old Judge on a minor league bus headed somewhere in Mississippi? No, no, a six six foot seven guy just sitting there who's about to come up and start just mashing some home runs. What is who is that? Is that the mascot or something? I know, I know. So that was my did you have one more? Oh yeah. Uh actually from from Facebook, so I'll be reading this one off. Oh, sweet. Um, hot take. I think Pokemon's lack of sensibility is having bigger impact on sports cards than people realize. Because Poke Pokemon stays active year-round, it keeps collectors engaged and money flowing through the hobby even during the sports offseason. Uh, that helped raise the off-season floor for sports cards compared to what we used to see. That is interesting. That is a very interesting take. And I'll tell you why it's an interesting take. Uh, because I don't talk about Pokemon much, and you don't talk about Pokemon much. And we have a whole other shop that does Pokemon, so shout out to that shop if y'all y'all hadn't been there. It's uh on Lee Highway, like right by Champions and you know Gold's Gym. Gold's Gym, right in that area. You can Google it. Maybe they would have a better answer to that. They probably would, but I do think that's interesting, and that's something to think about because it is year-round, and that and you definitely do see in sports lower sales in the offseason, and then once start that's things start ramping up and there's more hype around the sport uh starting and and playoffs, then things I mean they shoot up. Look at Wimby. I mean, Wimby's stuff has just he is up, he has more than doubled in like three weeks. It's insane. Um so that that is interesting. It kind of keeps it, you know, more steady and maybe more growth in the the Pokemon card uh card business and card world. Uh we might sound you know very stupid compared to the people who are actually in Pokemon all the time. But on an outside perspective, it's Does it does look like that. Do you think Wimby right now has surpassed uh Shohei Otani as number one in the hobby? I still think that he Otani has more of a worldwide market than Wimby. I think so. I still think he does. Um I think that Wimby has the I think he has potential to. I don't think he's there yet. If they win and he wins you know MVP and stuff, I think that I think maybe he could for a brief moment. I don't think that and plus I think he could for a brief moment and then that would die down because baseball season is going to continue and basketball's gonna stop. Um so I I think that it could for a little bit, you know, like like if uh you know if PSA you know puts out their like monthly who was graded the most and stuff. I think you could see Wimby uh top that list over Otani for a couple months, but then I think it would go back up uh to Otani again, personally. I I think you're right. I think uh uh Wimby has the potential of surpassing him. Yeah. I think they're neck and neck right now, probably 1A, 1B. Yeah, probably. Um you know the we were talking about Pokemon and and its impact on the hobby. Uh the the joke has always been that you know Charizard doesn't slump. Charizard never has a DUI. Yep. Um but to refute that, um they never hit a three to win the uh true. Like he's not out there, you know, hitting uh Grand Slam, you know, when it matters. To win the Super Bowl. Yeah, no, not to win the Super Bowl. No. Uh you know, game seven of the World Series or something, you know. Game, you know, game game nine of the Super Bowl, kicking the field goal, you know. I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. But he's not doing any of that. Uh that's for sure. Um Is is that peak better than the just the consistency of I don't know the Pokemon mode? I don't know. That's a good question. That's another one that y'all could help us on. So comment below your thoughts on that. Because I don't know. I mean, it's a it's a good thing to think about, but I'm not too sure. I know that if the shop manager doesn't know. Man, it must be uh, you know. Nuclear physicists are working on that right now. They have to be. It's gonna take a you know a millennium for people to even come up with, you know, an answer to that question. I don't know, I don't know if there actually is an answer to that question. So just a question that's never answered. Anyway. Anyways. Um let's see, let's see. Uh where are we? I think we're done. Utawa, Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you done with hot takes? I don't have any more. I think so. Okay. Uh Waverly? Sure. Absolutely. Okay. Uh you want to go first? I'll pick the number. Okay. Pick the number? All right, I got it. Okay. So I'm asking these questions. One best, 10. No, 10's best. 10's best. Okay. All right. So I'm asking you questions. You're asking questions. I'm gonna ask. So I'll just I'll fill the space right here so we don't have dead air while you're thinking. Y'all could probably hear him thinking too. Give me a um give me a parallel. I don't know. I may have asked this. I think I did product. Give me a parallel. Best parallel? Best parallel. Uh red to five. Ooh. We are high. We're pretty big. Superfracture 101 is, in my opinion, the only one that beats that. So to me, we're at a nine. You might already have guessed. We might gotta be at a nine. Case hit. Give me a case hit. Case hit. Kaboom. Kaboom. We are up there. Well personally, I like kabooms the most. That'd be a 10 for me. Um button. Well, let me say downtown then. Well, this is yours. I don't think I don't think kabooms are your favorite. Are they? Are you on record? Are you on record? I'm not really a big I mean it's it's basically known as a football case hit and a basketball case hit. But I have a kaboom of trout and I love it. It's my favorite card. I have it under my pillow. I don't have it. Can we can we can we cut that? Scrub that from the audio. No, it's it's on record now. It's on record. Um, okay. Kick your wife out of the bed so you can cuddle your kaboom. Yes, yeah, that's what's happening. That sounds really bad. So uh we might have to cut that. That's crazy. Uh uh, let's see. Give me I have one more question, but I I it's a it's a lock for me, I think. Um I'm not even gonna use it. Is it a nine? It's a nine. That's right. That's right. That first one was like probably the best question I could ask. That was a really good question. That's good. It's like you're back. You don't have any problems patting yourself on the back, do you? No, my arms are very long. It reaches like very good. Uh so okay, I'll pick a number. I'll pick a number. I've got it. Okay. Don't ask me Pokemon questions, please. I'm not gonna have a good answer. If I if I knew what to ask, I might ask, but uh all right. Um I like baseball. I I ask a lot of baseball questions. So um let me get a player you would you would put with this number. All time? Uh let's just say right now. Currently? Drake Baldwin. Drake Baldwin. Okay. What's he currently doing? He's currently injured. Okay. I just want to make sure he's Oblique strain. So he was having a good season, but oblique strain. So it may not be uh his stats may not be up there where they were. Okay. So it's still pretty solid though. Yeah, I was I was kind of being obscure with that answer. Okay. That is obscure. Yeah. It's throwing me off a little bit. Yeah. He's like, I mean, is he a zero because he's not playing, or is he a ten because he was doing really well? I don't know. What about uh uh an NBA team? There's only two left. There's only two left. Then you would might if it's a low number, you'd probably pick one that's not in there. True. Just say over the over the whole season, taking low number. Okay, good. I could I didn't know what their record was, but uh Yeah, they they had a pretty bad one. Alright, good. That's what I thought. And um all-time football players. Oh my goodness, all-time football player? This is gonna be bad because I don't know. Uh you just had to be an obscure player if it's low. Ooh, ooh. What's that like whole collection we have that I bought of that random dude? What's his name? Taj Boyd. I'm gonna say Taj Boyd. We got a low number. Low number here. Yeah. Where are you feeling? Where are you feeling? I'm feeling it's like a two. Okay. I'll I'll lock in two. Lock in two? So close. Three. Three. Three. I was I I think Taj Boyd's a little too high for that. I threw you off with Taj Boyd. Was Taj Boyd the one that threw you? Yeah. We just surely there's someone who's uh worse than Taj Boyd. We just uh kicked Taj Boyd off of our listener. Yeah, I'm sorry, Taj Boyd. It's nothing personal, it's just you're a three. What do you think about the uh the NBA finals coming up? Um I'm excited. Uh who do you have winning? I think the Knicks played really well, but I mean who did they play? Do you think Wimby's gonna take them? I think I I kept telling my son, whoever wins the West is gonna take it. I think I think the Spurs are gonna be tough to beat. Yeah. And they have have a lot of momentum. The Knicks have they won early, so it's always hard coming back from a long rest. Yeah. Um I got the Spurs in six. Spurs in six? Spurs in six. When so we need to come back in what, like three weeks to see if you were right? Yeah, it seems like it takes so long to play their games. Yeah, it does. I don't know why. Like, just get it get it over with. But I mean, it is June. Yeah. It is June. And what they started playing in October or Yeah, that's crazy. That's a long season. It's a very long season. Um I think Wimby can take him. Yeah. He's I mean, he's dominant. He's I think I think everybody wants the Spurs to win. I think so. He's got a lot, he's got a lot of you know, hype behind him and stuff, and I I I kind of hope he does win. Because he he's so good and he needs I think he needs a title. I think that'd be kind of cool. Do you think anybody on the Knicks, do you think their their prices start going up? I think maybe uh you get a little bump just as a whole, just because you've made it, but I don't know if it's gonna be because like I mean when you got to the uh the Super Bowl, did did they go up much? I mean A little bit. I mean it seemed like and it didn't stay very long. It seemed like May kind of plateaued a little bit before the Super Bowl. Yeah. Well, because I don't think anyone thought he was gonna win going into it. So uh maybe Brunson. Brunson's market might go up if they win. And um I don't know anybody sitting on Brunson right now, but I know I wish I was sitting on some Wimby stuff. Yeah. Just imagine the the opportunity that everybody had because he was injured going in last year. Do you do do you remember that card? I do remember that. It was a PSA 9. I think I sold it for like 1500. I think it's like six grand now. That was like that was like two months, maybe three months ago. There was a card that came through the shop and we didn't buy it for certain reasons. Yeah. Uh but we we should have bought that card for sure. But we probably would have sold it right after we got it anyway, because people were they were picking up Wimby before he even got hot. Yep. I'm excited. Uh we'll see. So you've got him in six. I think so. You have a number? Six? I think it'll Don't say the next number. I okay. I think that then I'll phrase it differently. I think it'll go all the way. Oh, go all the way. I think it'll go all the way. And they'll win in that last game. And they win in that last game. That'd be fun. I think I think it'd be I think it'd be fun. I think that it'll it'll make the if if Wimby does win, I think it'll make the narrative even more crazy. Like final game, Wimby takes him, wins it, and I think his stuff goes crazy. What about uh you paying any attention to the Stanley Cup? No. No. That's like right along with your horse racing knowledge. You can't bring that up. We're not talking about horses on here. Oh, okay. That's crazy. Still looking for that Secretariat one-on-one. Yeah, I'm not I haven't, I'm I'm actually not looking for it. I'm trying to avoid it. Uh huh. Honestly, that would probably be a big card though if there was a one-on-one. Yeah. Yeah. Because horses are big. Yeah. Anyways, that's it. I think we're gonna be done. I think we're devolving into madness right here. Like, what are we even doing? You got anything else? I don't think so since you didn't have any takes on the NHL playoffs. 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