Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast Episode 7

Crank It Up – Episode 7: “The Hobby Heat Check”

Episode 7 comes in HOT. Matthew and Parker are firing takes like they’re ripping packs, breaking down the week’s wildest market swings and calling out which players are actually moving the needle. No fluff — just straight hobby heat.

They hit everything from surprise risers to cards cooling off fast, then dive into a no‑holds‑barred debate on whether the market’s correcting or just gearing up for a monster rebound. Add in a couple of insane shop stories — including one pull that stopped the room cold — and this episode doesn’t let up for a second

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast with the shop manager Parker and the co-host Matthew. Welcome to the Crank It Up Sports Card Podcast with your host Parker Johnson and Matthew Epperson. We're excited to get back to it. Episode number seven. Someone's excited. I'm excited. You are? I'm excited to be with you here today.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

I'm excited too. I am excited.

SPEAKER_00 0:24

You have what we've what we've really uh heard a lot of good feedback about is our hot takes.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Everybody loves them. Um they're uh at this point uh you know all over the globe. People are watching. They love to tune in for the hot takes. All over the globe. All over, yeah. Um, you know, a couple here, a couple there, you know.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

I think, you know, big podcast in the UK.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Yeah, in the UK. A lot of people are representing in, you know, at least one per continent. So um, so that's a good thing. Uh and yeah, hot takes. I have several. Okay, great sent in probably by nobody, but I'm gonna pull them up. And then I'm gonna read them to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Okay. So you get my take on hot takes. Hot takes. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Hot takes. I want to know your opinion on these hot takes. I don't want to know your hot takes.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Um, first one. Junk wax era cards are underrated. Well, I would say let's define junk wax era.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Junk wax.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

What is your opinion on where that starts and where that ends?

SPEAKER_00 1:31

I think 1986 is where it starts. Okay. Um, I think it probably ends sometime around the late 90s. All right. Um Do I think they're undervalued?

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

That's the question. That's the hot take.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Yeah. It says junk wax cards, era cards, are underrated.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Underrated.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Underrated, undervalued, probably could go hand in hand.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Well, I would say probably. There's some that I consider underrated. I think um, you know, everybody points to the 1989 Upper Deck King Griffey Jr. rookie card. It's an iconic card.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

One of the most.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Um, I think maybe it's properly valued. Sure. Uh it's continued to go up and up and up. But if there's a Hall of Famer from that era that his card isn't worth very much, I believe it should be. Sure. Um, maybe some of his higher the higher grades uh and uh I believe before 1985 you have like Tony Gwynn, Ryan Sandberg, uh a lot of Hall of Famers in that era, Cal Ripkin Jr. Ricky Henderson, and some borderline Hall of Famers too, Don Mattingley. It's funny that he uh his value of his 84 Donras card is probably higher than many Hall of Famers of that era.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Yeah, it it it it wh why is that? Was it just more short printed that year? I think that was as many are going around.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

I might be mistaken, but I think that's the first year that Donr's come out. Um so his rookie card was the chase at that time. Uh and he was New York Yankee, of course. I mean, he only played for the Yankees. And uh, you know, Yankees' values are always up there. Yeah. So everybody, you know, outside of New York was chasing him. And of course, people in that era. I mean, I was two years old, just to let you know, I was alive. I was alive. Wow. Um, but other people from that era, I believe their values should be more, like Frank Thomas, the big hurt. Yes. I think his value should be better. Yeah. Uh Randy Johnson, um, you know, he's the same class as King Griffey Jr. And his values are nowhere near. He's he is definitely a Hall of Famer, struck out more than 4,000 uh guys in his career, uh, World Series champion. Uh so I I think his values should be more than they are.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Yeah, cu I mean, because he's in the same rookie set as the upper deck Griffey. So that's that actually doesn't make sense. That's kind of weird, I guess. I mean, is Griffe that much I mean he is, but is it that much more collected? And that I mean, that's kind of crazy to think about. Because his his is like five bucks, I feel like. I mean, or less for the for the Randy Johnson one.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

But I I have a t uh I have a t-shirt that has Ken Griffey Jr. on the front. My kids got it for me for a birthday or a Christmas, I can't remember which one. Right. And the back of it says your favorite player's favorite player.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

And I I like that saying, yeah, and I think it's true. Right. Um, he was just iconic of that era. He even though Barry Bonds was probably a better player than King Griffey Jr., I mean, steroids aside, he probably still was better than Griffey. Yeah. Uh maybe Griffey in his early years was better defensively. Sure. Um, but offensively, I don't think there's anybody that touches Barry Bonds.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

No, I I tend to agree. Um The biggest thing I got from that though is that uh you if if junk wax, in your opinion, started in 86, that means you were around before the junk wax, which is kind of absurd.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Um maybe I'm just junk wax.

SPEAKER_01 5:09

But you'd be vintage. I'd rather be vintage than junk wax.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Yeah. Oh me too.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

I would be like just would I even be considered modern? I'm in a weird era.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

You're in that era that nobody collected. Yeah, nobody elected.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Well, pull holes in uh Ichiro.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Yeah, that's not bad.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

That's pretty good. I mean, I don't know. I've you know, it's pretty good actually. Pretty good. That's only only ones.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

I I do, you know, maybe I'm biased because that's when I started collecting. I can remember my first set being the 1988 Topps set. Yeah. Uh my parents got me that for Christmas, and I was excited. Um now you could probably buy that for five bucks, but um I went through that whole set and just took out all the Braves that I liked and some notable players, and um I don't even know where it's at now, but yeah, um man.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

That's fun. Believe it or not, one of my first boxes I ever bought because you know I wasn't going in and buying expensive boxes, but I went into a card shop and I I bought a uh 1987 tops, and that's and it's funny because I I was probably you know, between like 12 and 14 years old, and um that's one of my favorite just looks, the wood wood finish. And I think it's just because that was the one of the first ones I opened, even though that was way before my time. That was still uh one of my first boxes that I opened.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

And I think that's a good rookie class too. 1987. You got Bonds.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Not Bonds, Maguire, Barry Lardin. Um is Maguire that's is that tech that's maybe not technically interrupting.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

His tops, his USA cards, I guess, considered his rookie card. So that's before that year.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Um, but he came up around that that period of time, 87, 88.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Yeah. No, it is a good, a good class for sure.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Maddox. Maddox is also a rookie that year. Yep. It's a lot of Hall of Famers or should be Hall of Famers from that era. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

Hall of Very Good.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Let me ask you, uh since we're talking about Barry Bonds. Okay, should he be a Hall of Famer?

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Here's the thing. I think yes. And the reason why is because without steroids, right? He was already on a phenomenal career path, I guess. And uh if you take away most of the home runs that he had later on in his uh career, you still have an elite batting average. You're still like, I mean, steroids don't help you make contact with the ball.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

And be selective.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Right. And yes, and and exactly, and have good plate discipline. They don't help with that, they just you know, may make you a little more beefy so you can hit it further, right? Yeah. So if you take away some of his home runs, yeah, he wouldn't have like the absurd most home runs, you know, ever. But I think he would still be definitely Hall of Fame worthy, in my opinion. What's your opinion? Feel like I'm gonna get some hate on that.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

During that era, I didn't particularly like Barry Bonds.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

But I'm starting to respect his numbers even more and more. Sure. Um, I think that he is incredible an incredible hitter.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

I think um Agreed. Now, one of my first moments of watching the Braves was the 1991 and 92 World Series. And I believe uh when Sid Slid, I don't know if this is too old for you.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

He's probably a little too old for me. Well, I definitely don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Right.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

I definitely don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Everybody, he just called me old again. Well, Andy, the the famous thing about that series is uh they were in the bottom of the ninth, um, and this is uh game seven, they would go to the uh World Series after this. Andy Van Slyke was playing center field. He actually told Barry Bonds to move in, and Barry Bonds' ego at the time just wouldn't allow for him to move in. Right. If he would have moved in, he would have been just a little bit closer to Nail Sid Bream at the plate. Really? And he they probably would have won that game and went on to the World Series. Wow. Now Bream was the go-ahead run. Sure. So maybe it would have gone to extras that maybe the Braves would have won, but there's a good possibility that the Braves wouldn't have made it to the World Series that year.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Um, but I think he's an incredible athlete. I even think some of his values are not where they should be.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

I agree. I agree. Um he's signing in tops now, though, so that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

And those autographs are are are really expensive. We had one here at the store. We did, yeah. And uh it I was priced out of it, but I really wanted it.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

I know it was a cool it was a really cool card. Uh next hot take. Patch cards have lost their appeal.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Okay. Well, I think in certain cases I would agree with that. So probably a bad hot take. Yeah. Um, you know, there's a a little scandal with Panini uh involving patch cards that most of the cards that are patch cards are not actually of that player.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

Yeah. Almost none of them now. They I feel like they used to in like some of the older products, but recent ones, it's like, you know, it used to say, you know, not from any specific game. And then they added not it from any specific game or event or event, yeah. And then it went to not from any specific game, event, or player. And it's like, wait a minute. Yeah. So you y'all could have just gotten this jersey from Goodwill then and thrown it in that patch, you know? And that's just really funny. Uh, because it's not even associated with a player at this point for most things. Um, I think the high-end ones are really nice, but like for your Rot of the Mill Donrus or Select or something, if you get a patch, it's about a base napkin patch and it's not, you know, it's not game used.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Now, if you see a really sweet patch though, in a case that's low numbered and it has multicolors on it, yeah. What's the first thing that you're going to say?

SPEAKER_01 11:12

That's a cool card.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

That's a sweet patch. That's a sweet patch. Yeah. Yeah. So in that regard, uh people still like them.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

If they're game worn, if they're player used, um, you know, all of that. If if the right parameters are there, then I absolutely love them. Sure. Um, because, you know, just their autograph on a on a sticker, I would rather have a really nice patch over just a sticker auto, I think.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

That's fair. Yeah, no, I I think it is funny though, because you look at it and it can say not associated with with literally anything. But then if it is a multicolored patch or something, it goes for more, which is funny to me because it's just a piece of cloth at that point. But I agree. It's they look great. Some some patch cards can look really nice. And um if it's a regular card and then that same card with a patch, if as a sick patch, even if it wasn't associated with the player in any way, I still probably would want the patch just because it looks cool.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

You know, now I don't want a napkin patch, but I do like uh, yeah, if it's a mul multicolor part of their jersey set, I mean there's some really good looking patches out there.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

There was somebody that recently pulled a Yachty Irmelina patch in this in the shop, uh, one of one.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

And it had the little bird's eye in it. Yeah, that one was sweet. That was really sweet. And um, yeah, I would love to have something like that. Yep. Now, if uh if you're talking about my team, the Braves, if there's something with like the Tomahawk or uh something associated with your team? Yes, my team.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Our team.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

People have been saying.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

Everybody has has established the fact that you are a bandwagon Atlanta Braves fans. You are not a true fan.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

That's because your favorite player is someone not in Atlanta Braves uniform. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

But I think that's fine. You can your favorite player was Griffey, wasn't it? He never played for the Braves.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

But I would rather the Braves beat King Griffey Jr. in the World Series.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Griffey never got a ring.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

Exactly. And I was happy with the 90s, the team of the 90s. Wow. Our Atlanta Braves, apparently.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

I can't believe I feel like I feel like you would rather you wouldn't want to see your favorite player who never got a ring get a ring one time, just once, over your team who has multiple rings.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Well, they technically only had one ring in the 90s, 95. As good a team that they were through the 90s. Yeah. And they won 14 consecutive divisions. Yeah. That's hard to that's hard to beat. That is crazy. That is crazy. I mean, even the Yankees on their run, they never had that kind of run.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

That is crazy. I don't know. I guess I mean we're I guess yeah, it's different, you know? Yeah. You know, everybody's entitled to be wrong. Yeah, you are. I don't Okay. Next hot take is prospecting. This is a good one. Okay. And I gr well, maybe it's a bad hot take, because I agree with it. But uh prospecting is basically just gambling.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

Very good take. Um I think it is a um, I mean, that's hot take too, because I mean there's there's still a chance that those prospects can turn out to be, you know, a very good player and their values be uh, you know, if you're collecting Bowman or something like that, that can be some of their most valuable cards over their playing period. Um and honestly, thinking about the shop recently, we've talked about price points. You know, um there's price points uh lower than $200. There's some in the mid-range, you know, three to five hundred dollars, I would say. And then anything over that, I think that's hard for somebody to consistently buy a product above $500 for one box.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

And Bowman is right in that mid-range.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

And you can the ceiling for Bowman is huge.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

It's one of, it's one of, if not the biggest, I would say. I mean, it's I mean, you have your ultra rare dynasty type cards, I guess. If you hit like a Otani one of one auto, you know. But man, even that, the potential, like maybe not right when the product comes out, but even when right when the product comes out, if you hit like a superfractor of like the chase, that could be, you know, well over six figures. Um and then as far as potential goes, if they become a phenomenal player, then that could be well over seven figures, you know? And so um, yeah, it's a hundred percent one of the I would say like top three products with the highest ceiling, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

I think that it is a calculated gamble. Calculated gamble. Can that can that be put in there? A calculated gamble because it can be more valuable than say, you know, you hit a bunch of his low-numbered uh series one rookies.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

That's that and that's fair. I think that it's still in the same sense of a stock. Like, I don't know, it it's similar to a stock. It's like you get it and you hope it performs well. It's like the same thing. You're hoping the player performs well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

I think when you're talking about his rookie cards, though, he's already made it to the big leagues.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Whereas the Bowman prospecting crowd, they are doing that. They're hoping that this guy pans out, they're the next Connor Griffin or Kevin McGonagall or JJ Weatherholt.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

So I I believe it is a calculated gamble because of the values that it can reach if you hit something high. And even some people that never even reach the big leagues, their their first bowens at one time were very, very expensive.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

And I know you you might not you might have another question there, but I actually have a hot take.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

No, go ahead. Go right ahead. I have one left, but ask ask away.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

The reason why I asked this one is because it kind of goes along with what we just talked about. Uh 2026 baseball is the best rookie class in over 10 years.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

That's interesting. I don't know. Okay, are you let's narrow the question down, right? As far as how many people could have end up having star power, or like who's better like right now, type of thing. Because if it's the amount of people who could end up having star power, I would say yes. But if we're talking about people who have made it and proven that they're stars, I would say no.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

Okay. Yeah, I guess uh as far as proving themselves, I mean, they're still in the rookie class. I'm thinking that it's potential.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

I would say potentially. You've got 2018 with Acuna and Otani, right?

SPEAKER_00 18:16

And Soto.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

And and Soto. And notice how I said Acuna first, because I'm a Brace fan. I didn't say Otani first, he's the best inventor. I said Acuna.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

And Ozzy Albys. I mean, since you're a Brace fan. Well, I guess I proved that wrong.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Um, so you have 2018. I also think 2022 is really, really good because Bobby Witt Jr.'s been phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

A lot of high-end on that.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Yeah. Uh Julio Rodriguez, which people as of late have moved off of a little bit. He was definitely bigger than Bobby Witt. But I still think he's really good. And you look at some of his numbers, and his numbers are still really good. He he always seems to heat up in the second half, I feel like. Um, and there and there's a lot, those are probably the two notable uh most notable ones. There's plenty of other ones that are that are in there. And and while we're on Wit and Julio, I just want to look at this real quick because if you were to guess, they both came up in the same same year. 2022 was the rookie. Um, who do you think has like better stats, I guess? Um better war. Let's just go with war. I know that's you know, I would stuff. I would say Bobby Win. Bobby Witt? Okay. Uh let's let's see real quick. Julio Rodriguez has 24.3. I think that's really solid for nothing in 2022.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

It's more than I've had.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Uh well, you've lived how many wars have you lived through? That was a good one. That's a good one. Um and then Bobby Witt Jr. Do you want to guess? So Julio is 24.3.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

28.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

25.7. Very close.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

That is very close.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

I mean, that is very close. Close enough to where I kind of feel like people have gone off of Julio a good bit more than they should have. Too much. Too much. Like home runs, Julio has 125, Witt has 114, you know. Now I know, you know, Bobby Witt is uh absolutely excellent in the field at his position, you know. Um like I don't know, would you say he's the best right now?

SPEAKER_00 20:34

At short. Yeah. If he's not the best, he's he's close to right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

He's talking so that helps that helps a ton, but to be separated by only like just barely over one war to me, and and for how how much how much his values have fallen seems to be like to me, like, man, he might might either either be a good buy or people just moved off of him way too quickly because his stuff was really high and has dropped a ton. And Bobby Witz has continued to go go up, I feel like, and I just feel like they should be a lot closer. But I don't know, maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong. It also could have to do with the teams they're on and and fan bases.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

I was about to say something about their teams. Um, they're in hard markets. I mean, Seattle, uh, of course, everybody liked uh King Griffey Jr. when he was in Seattle, and and he's a hobby favorite. Um Bobby Whipp being in Kansas City, I think uh if he was a Yankee, or if either one of them were a Yankee or a Dodger, then I think their values would be more.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Um I think Otani kind of helps and hurts players on the Dodgers.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Now, Mookie, the last couple of years, I think his values have gone down, and that's a reflection of his performance, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Um, but Freddie Freeman, I believe he stayed consistent of what you expect out of Freddie Freeman. Yeah. And I think his values, other than when he hit that spike, have Hitting the walk-off home run in the World Series. I think his values have gone down just a little.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Really? Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. I'm not sure, but Yeah, no, that was a good that was a good question. That was kind of fun to look into a little bit of that. Um This is the last one I have. This is a little bit similar to one of the other ones, but vintage baseball is safer than almost any modern uh prospect cards.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Safe? Yes. I agree. I believe they're safe. Um, just like we were, you know, you mentioned it's kind of goes along with the conversation we were having earlier. Uh the top end of a prospect in Bowman is very high. Yeah. Um, and vintage is established. Sure. Um, I don't think it's gonna go up crazy, um, but the value is already there.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Vintage is like uh your traditional stocks, and prospects are like uh like crypto.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

Like you throw some money in there, have the probably gonna lose everything, but uh one might hit and you become a millionaire overnight, right? Um, I don't know. That's kind of how I look at it, because it it could be crazy. And then yeah, the vintage, it's not like their performance isn't gonna dip, so their card market's gonna dip. It's just already there.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

Well, think about this. Uh last year the big uh the big rookie going into say June, which is we're in June now, the big rookie was Jacob Wilson.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

And James Wood.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

And what have what have their values done over the year?

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Gone down. They've gone down. They've gone down a lot, actually. James Wood is a ton.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

And Dylan Cruz.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

And Dylan Cruz. Yeah. Yep. And uh and Nick Kurtz really outperformed, which was kind of crazy because Jake wasn't Jacob Wilson in the front running for that for uh for rookie of the year.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

I think I think the year or the the game that he hit four home runs that solidified him as rookie of the year, and their prices at the time reflected that yeah, one went up significantly and the other went down significantly. Sure. I think Jacob Wilson is still a phenomenal baseball player, and I think I think um he's borderline all-star. Yeah. So um I I I think people have moved on from him, but I think he's still a good player.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

That's another thing that's interesting because it's like you can be really good, and you might not even fall off any, you might actually do better. But once people move on, it seems like they're gone. Like you might get a little bit of a bump, but you might never get back to like your rookie or Bowman first highs that you were at, even if you're performing better. It it's so like the turnover is so quick, I feel like, because as soon as the next Bowman product comes out, or as soon as the next rookie class comes out, it's who's the next one. And it's like, well, just a year ago, we were all collecting this guy who's still doing good, who's still performing, who's actually doing better than he did in his rookie year, and he's gone down. Yeah, it's so hype-driven. It's really crazy to me. I'm I feel like buying in their rookie year, unless you're like Otani now, is one of the worst things to do by the second year, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Well, I think there was even a period of time where people kind of softened on Shohei when he had that injury. That's true. And, you know, they they had questioned him whether he's gonna make it in the major leagues anymore. Um, we actually had a similar discussion in the shop earlier today. You wasn't over there. Um, but the best time to sell really is right when that player hits uh, you know, his call-up, whether it be opening day or he gets a call-up during the middle of the season, that's the time to sell that that moment prospect because there's going to be a period of time where he's hot. And if he has a good run, yes, his his values are going to stay up, but it's eventually going to dip no matter who it is. Yep. No matter who it is. Um, and then if he consistently stays where he's performing, then his values will come up, but most of the time it stays at that dip. You can buy in the dip and come up. Um in that dip is the time to buy. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

But you kind of have to play with with that aspect. Is he going down further? Is this the right time to buy if you're investing?

SPEAKER_01 26:31

I agree. Um, that is all the hot takes I had. Did you have any more? Or is it time to move on to our next segment?

SPEAKER_00 26:38

I believe it's time to move on.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

All right. Then let's move on to our next segment. Wavelength.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Wavelength.

unknown 26:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

That's like a staple. I feel like we have to at some point we need to mix it up, but I like this game. I think it's a good one. I think it's a good one. What do you think? You like it? I like this game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:54

I don't know. They they haven't told us whether they like it or not.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

I mean, we'll do something different. We'll do something different. We're not scared. I mean, I'm we're not scared to do anything different, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:04

If you if you're scared by a dog, right? And we don't have dogs. You don't like dogs. Or I shouldn't say that. We'll get canceled. We'll get canceled. You don't like dogs. I don't like dogs.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

But we're also not canceled.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Yeah, he kicked a dog on the way up.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Oh, that's crazy. We will get canceled if people think that's true.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

That's not true.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

Um, but we're not cat people either.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

I'm definitely not a cat person.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

So it's not like, you know, it's not like we're a cat person over dog.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

We're just we're a human person. I've said this before we're family people. I think I said it the last last uh podcast. Yeah. They're not getting this on any other podcast. No, they're not.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

They're not. No one else is kicking dogs.

unknown 27:47

No.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

No.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Not here either. The wavelength. Do you want to go first or do you want me to? Um and I never know what that means when I ask that. I'm like, who's actually going first?

SPEAKER_00 27:58

You get the number.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Okay, I'm picking the number.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

You're picking the number.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Okay. So you're asking the question? Okay. Um I've got it.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Okay. Restaurants.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Restaurants. I like this. We are branching off. And you know what? I don't like this because now I'm a little bit hungry now that I'm thinking about restaurants.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

You're always hungry.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

Uh that is true. Uh earlier, the guys were kind of making fun of me because I got uh I went to Zaxby's right across the street. Shout out Zaxby's not a sponsor. But we're open to it. How many sponsors have we been open to?

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Uh every one of them.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

And how many have we gotten?

SPEAKER_00 28:39

Just like one.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Okay, cool. No big ones there, right? No, no. Zaxby's. Um walked over to Zaxby's. Um, I got a grilled chicken sandwich. Um the meal with a large fry and a drink. And then I got a grilled chicken sandwich. Um entree. And walked right over here into the back break room. Got out my two chick grilled chicken sandwiches and fries, and they were making fun of me for that. Is that too much food? Is that too much?

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Maybe just a little.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Maybe a little? Okay. Uh, should I drop the fries next time and maybe two chicken grilled chicken sandwiches is fine?

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Absolutely. I mean, it's America, you can do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Okay, good. I just wish that their larges were a little bigger. Yeah. Um, they're huge.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

We were talking about stadium food earlier today. You know, where else on the face of this planet can you get a hot dog that's bigger than your lab?

SPEAKER_01 29:39

I mean, okay, what was the question? No, I'm just playing. I know what the question was. All right. I forgot we were playing a game for a second. Um, I'm gonna go now, okay. How what what's the scale? Uh, are you asking any restaurant restaurant or like fast food? We'll say fast food. Okay, we're gonna say fast food. Um, I don't know where you're at on this, so this is gonna be kind of difficult, but this is where I'm at. Yeah, and I'm gonna say subway.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Subway.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

And you probably have no idea what I how my feelings about subway, so that's gonna be hard. Yeah. But uh maybe we'll lock in on the other questions. Where are you feeling right now though?

SPEAKER_00 30:13

I'm like right in the middle right now. All right. If I had to guess with one, I would say you're around four.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Okay. Okay. I'm not I'm not gonna say anything, I'm not giving any hints. Okay, you're getting nothing except for the next question.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Okay. Uh let let's uh let's take it to the NBA. All-time NBA centers.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna I gotta like look up all-time webs.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Who played center?

SPEAKER_01 30:39

That's gonna be too hard because was Spud Webb a center. Yeah, but for me to know, like I can know good ones, but if it's a bad one, how am I supposed to know bad ones? You'll just have to. Unless I look them up. Like, because what if my number's bad?

SPEAKER_00 30:53

Just name somebody that sounds like an NBA player and I'll not know him.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

So Okay, let's I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up for help.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Oh, okay. Okay. Google um what's a bad NBA center? Maybe I should come up with better questions. I think I feel it's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

It's just uh It's a good question, but if my number was a different number, it would be an easy question. It's a hard question because of what my number is.

SPEAKER_00 31:25

Um I think it without even giving me an answer, it's lowering the number. I mean, I'm I'm like a four without you even giving an answer now.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

Okay, I mean I don't think I'm not gonna say anything. I'm not gonna say anything.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Okay. Alright. Your your non-answer.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

No, I'm I'll I mean I'll give you an answer. Okay, but I'm not gonna say if you're right or wrong or in the general area where my number is. Um we'll do Brendan Haywood.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Three.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

Okay. Alright. So you have one more.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

I have one more.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

You have one more. So you're around a three. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Okay. Uh so um let's see. NFL teams.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

NFL teams.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

All time.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

All time. Gosh, you had to throw that in there? Um Okay. So you said you're at a three. So I'm gonna say the Broncos.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

Broncos. Oh, that brought it up.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Okay. Where did it bring it up to? What do you think the average is? Where are you at?

SPEAKER_00 32:39

I'm gonna say a five.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Yes! Got it. Right on it, right on it. Subway was a five for me. Sometimes I like subway, sometimes I'm like a foot-long sandwich. I just I could make it at home. A foot-long sandwich. That's yeah, and then centers. I was like, who in the heck would be middle of the pack? I looked up like top hundred and I picked someone in the middle. I had no idea who would be in the middle. So that's what I did there. And then and then I brought you up with Broncos. That's good. That's good. That was good. I feel like we're getting better at this game.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

We're on the same wavelength. We some would say. Yeah, some some might say.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

So uh others would say probably not.

SPEAKER_00 33:17

Do you want to do it again or or do you want to uh go on to recent topics?

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Let's go on to recent topics. I feel like let's end on a high note. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

That way, that way you don't lose.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Yeah. What do you think about the NBA finals?

SPEAKER_01 33:33

There's people here working currently, potentially on whatnot right now, who said earlier nobody's ever come back from being down O2, but nobody's ever had Wimby on their team. And I was like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

Well, Wimby just you have a point?

SPEAKER_01 33:51

Like he he had like it's a point.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

It's a point, but I don't know if that's a good one. Because Wimby is kind of getting pushed around a little bit by Cap. Uh everybody's saying it.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

It's not looking good.

SPEAKER_00 34:05

Except for this guy.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

What do you have? We made predictions on here. You said you think Spurs in six, and I said I think it's gonna go all the way, right?

SPEAKER_00 34:12

It's gonna be difficult to do that.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Really difficult. If it does happen, it'll have to go all the way, right? Or well, they could technically still get it in six.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

They could get it in six, so they had to win the next four.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

Yeah, that's gonna be tough. Odds are in my favor, they're not in anybody's favor, but I think mine is a little bit higher because at least they I give I give them one more game to lose of breathing.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

I think it's gonna be tough because they're in New York now. Yeah. Um, and New York is gonna be going crazy. Yep. And um maybe my prediction's wrong. I've I've been wrong before, occasionally. Maybe they lose everything. Every once in a while. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Sometimes I I would say I would say sometimes. I would give you the benefit of the doubt. That is probably I wouldn't even say sometimes, I'd say occasionally. On occasion. On occasion. Yeah. On occasion.

unknown 35:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Most of the time. Well, I appreciate that. Yeah. Um, but no, yeah, that's crazy. What else do we have coming up? We got uh trade night coming up here in a little bit. Is it not? Is that the 19th? 19th, that'll be fun. Um, we got a lot of stuff going on in the shop. Y'all need to just come by and see us. They need to come by and see us, right?

SPEAKER_00 35:22

Yeah, they need to come by and see us. Series two is about to come up here in about 10 days.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

Top's finest baseball. Top's finest baseball. We're looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

They have mega boxes this year. That's crazy. I mean, that should have been a topic that we talked about.

SPEAKER_01 35:37

Should have been we dropped the ball on that.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

We got we got plenty of time to talk about that on the next episode because I mean it's probably football. Cosmic football. That one's gonna be huge. I think that will be big. Yeah, yeah. Everybody loves cosmic.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Yeah, I love cosmic. Um, topp's finest, or not topp's finest, topp's chrome black football. They're doing that as well. So they're coming out with a lot. I feel like we say that every time, but topps just keeps, you know, keeps rolling it out.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

Keeps rolling. Man, their presses are hot over there.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

But it's it's nice stuff. I mean, I like all those products.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

So I'm what do you feel about the new products that come have come out uh signature class?

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Personally, I'm not the biggest fan, but um, it's a lot of paper, isn't it? Yeah, I'm not a fan of paper in general. I like the chromium products more, so maybe that's why I'm not a fan. But I also I don't know if I like the design that much. I think Cosmic is a way better design. I think finest is a way better design. I think uh Chrome Black is a way better design. I just and and all of those are chromium, so maybe that's why maybe I'm just biased. But um I just I just don't like the the paper stuff as much.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

We talked about Topps Chrome Platinum coming out. It released last week and gone. It's gone. It's gone. One of the best products sold out today.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Yep. Love that product.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

I do too. It's great.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

But uh I want to get a case.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

You want to go in? Let's get a case right now.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

So we'll just split it Abses. Absolutely down the middle. If uh if we hit if we hit big, um you buy the case. If we hit big, we'll split the profits um in the case. If we don't hit big, then you can have it. You get well, you can have everything actually.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

That's so generous.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

You can have it all. Yeah. So I'll do that deal.

SPEAKER_00 37:25

That's uh all right. Well, we might have to work out the details on that, but um all right.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

Well, that's that's all I had for today. Is it you got anything else?

SPEAKER_00 37:34

I don't have much else, uh, but I appreciate everybody tuning in. Absolutely. Uh like for everybody to subscribe, join, share. Yep. Uh, most of all, listen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

And uh take your words of wisdom. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

That we just take my words of wisdom and um all right.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Well, we'll see you on the next one. We're gonna have a talk uh right after this. Yeah.