EP 04: Ms. Amy J. | Designer on Trial: Rick Owens

ZellSWAG sits down with celebrity stylist Ms. Amy J. for an unfiltered Fashion Verdict conversation about Atlanta style, celebrity styling, her journey, and what it really takes to make fashion moments happen.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:20

Welcome back to Fashion Verdic with Zell Squag, where every outfit gets review, every girlie gets nervous, and the courtroom stays open. In tonight's episode, we're talking about celebrity styling, glam pressure, the Atlanta fashion culture, and why everybody with a Zora received feel like they're a stylist. And later, we got wardrobe stylist Amy J. And we're gonna sit down and see what it takes to be a stylist in Atlanta and in this industry. So grab your wigs, your move boards, and your fashion tape because court is now in sessions. Wardrobe stylists are becoming extinct. I'm just gonna say it, the wardrobe sellers are bleeding out slowly. Because now everybody and their mama are calling themselves a stylist. Baby, just because you ordered somebody a matching set and booked a makeup artist, does not make you June Ambrose. Social media is creating these fake fashion experts and it's really getting on my nerves. I just saw it on Shade Room the other day, they had somebody that literally has not one lick of fashion in them talking about them at gallery. That shit blew me. It's like, who are these people that y'all got just deemed them as like fashion experts and sales? It's like they know what the f is going on in the fashion world. No. And a lot of these sellers are becoming trendy recyclers. They see one salad do it, they run over and do it. They see this talent in this showroom, they run over to this showroom. They see this talent use this shoe, they go get this shoe. It is like a whole bunch of recycle looks, and I'm sick of it. The real true image builders are disappearing. Like, where are these people? Where are these real creatives that are really taking these people and creating a story with their clients? Because there's a big difference of styling somebody and building a fashion identity. Back in the day, stylists created eras. They built legends, they built icons, and they build moments. And now everybody just sending pictures screenshots and hoping for the best. It's styling legends that we just gotta discuss real quick. Let's start off with Rachel Zoe. Rachel Zoe built a boho luxury era. Celebrity branding before social media, making it girl styling mainstream. Move on to June Ambrose. June Ambrose is hip hop fashion pioneer, hands down. Styling music videos into culture moments. That's why her influence still exists today. Moving on to Misa Hilton. Misa defined 90s hip-hop glamour. Gave you that 90s RB style, mix it in with hip-hop and everything else. She's still doing it to today. These women weren't just putting clothes on people. They was building visual history. And another thing, if your styling mood board got 47 references on there and not one single original idea, you're not a visionary. You're a fashion copier machine. Fuck, I almost almost had dude a little Kim. Go with Kim, like it's a rock, bitch. Hard as a cop. It's designer on trial. And y'all know with designer on trial. We pick one of your favorite fashion houses and see if they deserve our coins or deserve to be put on community service. Let's get into it. And today, designer that is on trial is Rick Owens. Yep, come to the front of the Yup, bring your ass up here. Because I genuinely need to know, is this fashion or are we preparing for a stylish apocalypse? Let's get into it. I got a few questions. Why have Rick Owens became the king of dark luxury? Is it because of? I'm just gonna say it, is it the satanic pentagrams on the shoes? Is it like the devil-ish fashion shows? Or is it the soulless-looking models? I don't know. But I feel like the influence of gothic culture is becoming mainstream fashion, and I feel like Rick Owens is at the least. Is Rick Owens even really wearable or is it editorial? Because the cult that's falling behind the Rick Owens brand is crazy. Here in Atlanta, not nobody if you don't got a pair of Rick Owens. That's a part of the Atlanta starter kit. You gotta have a pair of Ricks. No matter what air, when they come, how clean, how new. If you got some rigs you on. I don't got no Riggs. Just to let y'all know. I don't know now. One pair of Rick Owens. Rick Owens really said, what if everybody dressed like emotional, exhausted superheroes? Because that's what the fuck they're looking like. These are questions that you guys got to ask yourself. Is Rick Owens really pushing fashion forward, or is the brand becoming repetitive? Does the average person actually understand the clothes? Is it fashion genius or is it just an expensive humiliation? Because why some of these albums look like they come with a background thunder sound? So do you keep spending your money with the evilish, devilish brand? Or do you take it somewhere else? Hey y'all, we out here in Atlanta at Atlantic Station, you know the mecca of street wear, and we're gonna ask people what are some dope streetwear brands that everybody wearing? Let's see what they say.

SPEAKER_05 6:19

Here with NCAA track, this is my shit.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

Okay, okay, okay, we in the street. A couple questions I wanna ask you. The first one is what are some streetwear brands that's like fly right now that you that you know about right now?

SPEAKER_01 6:37

You can never go wrong with gallery. Uh you know you can never go wrong with gallery all day. You can never go wrong with a little hell star. What else? See, because sometimes for me when I think streetwear, I'm also thinking like Rick Ones, but uh that's not that's like high-end streetwear, but that's I'm definitely gonna stop at gallery. Um so what's some streetwear brands that supply right now?

SPEAKER_05 6:59

You know me, I think white teeth joys, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 7:04

Like shite. What's some hot streetwear brands right now? I think like Chrome Heart, but I'm not even gonna, I'll be honest with you. I'm not really into like like the brands like that. But I think like whatever you wear, um, as long as you own it, you can make it hot if you have any if you have influence, you know. Right. I agree.

SPEAKER_03 7:23

It's a good one. I like Chrome Heart. Chrome Heart is definitely one of the probably the most expensive shoe wear brands right now. Hey, so you're not like no like just like brands like Gotta Department, Chrome Heart.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

Like no, everybody doing the Chrome Heart, but you know what I'm saying? Like, I like to fuck with like local brands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fratili? Oh, yeah, I know them. Yeah, shout out for Tilly, my boy Mateo. Evolve. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I fuck with all them. So you know what I'm saying? The local brand.

SPEAKER_03 7:53

Oh, yeah, yeah, I fuck with local brands too. It's a lot, Atlanta got a lot of good local brands. Atlanta versus New York. Who you feel? As far as fashion? Well, not fashion, because New York take it just, but street wear, just streetwear, period. Atlanta feel like they got the upper hand when it comes to like the street wear. Oh, we need that regularly ass nigga right there with the pink hair.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

I feel like it really depends because sometimes in Atlanta, I ain't gonna hold you, and I live here. Well, I lived here, but I feel like sometimes in Atlanta it can get a little tacky, but I also feel like sometimes in New York it can get a little gaudy. It just depends on your style. Like, I would personally take Atlanta streetwear with like a mix of New York streetwear. That's what I would do, but you think fire.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Atlanta, Atlanta niggas are our New York niggas. We talking air, we talking right now. Just right now. Right now.

SPEAKER_05 8:40

I'm not gonna put that shit on ACZ.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

My last question for you, I want you to write my outfit.

SPEAKER_04 8:46

I gotta put my arms back so you can see the extrusion of the pants. Wait, hold on, the pants inside of the pair. Okay. I like that. It's like a little I would give it a 9.5.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Okay, last question, I want you to write my outfit minus the sweat. Minus the sweat. I really like the shape of those pants. I like the construction. The pants gonna get an eight by themselves. Okay, thank you. The shirt I would give a I'll give a solid five. So what's that? Like a 12? I can't see the shoes. I think there's some like denim boots. It don't matter.

SPEAKER_04 9:19

We love a denim boot. Last question is I want you to write my fit.

SPEAKER_05 9:23

Man, Zeb, put that shit on every motherfucking time, man. Take the motherfucking shoes, man. Come on, man. Take the shoes, man. Tell me how you get on the box out like that.

SPEAKER_03 9:35

Yeah, yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm going, I woke up today and said, I'm going Spongebob. Alright, y'all. Now it's time for this week re-report. And when I say Gucci shut down Times Square in New York, not Milan, not Pears. Baby, they said, let's take Times Square and make it a runway. And honestly, some of the people, hey, and some of the people I'm mmm, look like they got dressed in the dark behind a luxury hotel. Let's get into some of these looks. Okay, now we got Tom Brady up here. I know he was a seven-time Super Bowl-winning athlete. I know it was a model, but I'm not gonna lie, he looks good. This looks sleek. I will uh play with any balls that he wanna throw at me if he's wearing that, okay? I'm gonna tell you that. Next! Now, I'm gonna start off by saying this about Paris. Paris isn't it, girl. She always has been, she always will be, especially to me. She changed her hair here. To me, it kind of washed her out. I'm not gonna lie. Then she got on this yellow dress. I felt like this outfit that she had on was perfect for her. That Paris Hilton is hot blonde. I'm so mad that she didn't give that, but I still think that the look looks good. I love that red bag. The red bag eats. Um, but I just feel like Paris could have given that blonde hair and it would have really given that Cali girl walking down Rodale Drive look. But okay, next! Now look at this legend. Not every day you can say you got a legend like Cindy Copper walking down Times Square, New York with that fire ass Gucci. Look, I ain't gonna lie, she looks amazing. This is amazing. I love this gown. I'm not gonna lie, it doesn't really get me Gucci, Demna. It gives me more a little Balenciaga like kind of rest of these looks, but it still looks good. I still really liked it. I still fuck with it, I still like it, but it don't give me Gucci. Next, let's do in the front motherfucking row. We got Mariah Carey, front row. Mariah is a legend. Mariah, I'm pretty sure she got on Gucci. I'm pretty sure she didn't care about coming to the show, and I'm pretty sure she didn't even know the bitches that was sitting next to her. Next, we have Kim Kardashian. She was sitting front row at the Gucci show, and she was wearing a Gucci number, and I like this look, but it's just like, once again, it's not giving Gucci to me, it's giving Balenciaga. I don't know why it's still giving Balenciaga. I don't know if it's the overthrow of all the celebrities sitting there, being there, and like giving like that, that pushing a celebrity, like, hey, the clothes is not that good, let me push the celebrities in front of you to make it look good type of vibe. But I wasn't feeling that. I ain't feeling that, Kim. That's you, we could do better than that. Let's look at some of the models just coming down the runway. That zoom into that chain, them that jewelry that she had on, she said they said that was like, I think they said like 1.5 million. I gotta check it too, but it was millions of dollars on her neck. But that just the way that that dress fed on her body just, oh my God, it just looked amazing coming down the runway. But once again, I thought it was Gucci. Love to see the furs coming down the runway. That is some classic Gucci. Like, I feel like I give, feel like that gives Gucci, and I like that. But it was like the black under it just like gave Blizzyaga to me again. Sorry, Demna. I love this red look. I love this red look. It gave Gucci, it gave basic instinct or something like that. I just like, yes, I love it. It was very sexy, very elegant, very now. This model coming down with this black sequence, Crocodile looking. I don't know if it's sequence or crocodile. This is a fire look. But I could have sworn I saw this on Balenciaga's runway. So I don't know. I'm just gonna say this. All in all, the Gucci show was good. They had some fire pieces. I will be there getting some shit. Like I am. But it's because of like some of it look like Balenciaga, and it might be a little cheaper. And that's our read report for the week. Moving on in this segment called Style Me Like Zelle. I'm teaching the girlies, the guys, and whoever else needed some styling tips. And today's selling tip is how to turn a two-piece into three different looks. And this is how we're gonna do it. We got the two-piece, which I got from Amazon. Um, we have her, she has a Y cell bag, she got her furry heels on, you see a little fur. Um, and yeah, and some jewelry, little some jewelry. Just something cute, simple. You never know where she's going. She could be going out, she could be going to meet your daddy, she can go and be meet my daddy. Who knows where she's going? But yeah, she looks cute, and we're gonna turn this look into two more other looks. The second look. And this is gonna give you a little more street vibe, a little more daytime, a little bit more fun. And here we go. Now you see, we sell this one up with a graphic T, also from Amazon. You see the bottoms from the two-piece with some pink cow high heels that just made it a little more street. And she still got her bag and she got some accessories. Now, don't she look ready to go out to have a good time? The third and final look is gonna give a little classy, a little fun, but this girl knows how to get to the fun. And look, we took the top boustier from the two-piece, we paired it with a white button-down with some dramatic shoulders. She got a red leather skirt that we also got from Amazon and some Gucci. Girl got on Gucci, y'all. She got on some Gucci leggings with some black lubritons. Look at her, ready to go steal every rich old white man in Atlanta. Where y'all at? Because we trying to clock it in. I think that this look needs one final touch. And I'm gonna give her straight from my own swag. Tonight's guest is someone who understands celebrity image, Atlanta fashion culture, ground pressure, and they know how to keep their client looking expensive. Welcome in, Amy J.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Thank you so much for inviting me. Like, this is really dope. I love everything.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

Uh, thank you. I appreciate it. No, I I thank you for coming because like one, I thought of hitting you up. Like, after I I did Malaysia, I did Bambi. I was like, I need somebody fly in Atlanta. Like, I'm looking for like fly people to like be on here so we can talk fly shit.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

I was like, oh my God, Amy. I was like, let me have Amy. I was like, and you're a stylist, you already know the style game. You don't been working the stylist for a minute now. So introduce yourselves for the people who don't know you.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Well, my name is Amy J. I'm a wardrobe stylist. Um I've worked with Money Lone, K Michelle, uh, you know, Housewives, TV shows, a lot of shows, commercials. Uh uh. Um, I did the Bad and Bougie cover for Migos.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Oh, I love that with Tommy. Yeah, Tommy. Yeah, and she was in the noodles. Yeah. Yes, I love that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's what's up. No, yeah, we love Tommy. Tommy's a very stylish bitch. Yeah. She's very stylish. Absolutely. Yeah, she's very stylish. She looked crazy. But she's stylish.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

But you know, it's only if it outdone her first.

SPEAKER_03 17:39

No, yeah, no, Tommy, she's a Gemini, so she means love. She really wants love first. Like, you know what I'm saying? She put love first, but um okay, so what made you even get into like just styling anyway?

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Like I was doing music first. I still do music, but I was at first it was a full-blown music. And uh I was just dressing myself and I was in a girls' group.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

Um was you rapping in a girl's group?

SPEAKER_00 18:02

No, I'm just singing.

SPEAKER_03 18:03

Oh, singing, okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Yeah, so singing in a girl's group. It was like four of us. And I just wanted to get the everything going fast. I was like, man, we'll get the silence, we'll get that. I'm gonna style the group. Like, I'm like, let's put it together. I'm going to the stores, I'm putting everything together, and people are loving the pictures, they loving everything. It was like, man, I love how you dress. Like, it's not me.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Do you remember your first look that you put together for the group?

SPEAKER_00 18:24

The first look I put together? I really don't know. I really I honestly don't know. I don't know. There's so many, but I do know I did like a leotard uh white button up look for one of the looks that I was doing then.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

Right. Then you just like I did just start doing that shit.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Yeah, and I had to figure it out. I was like, well, how do I get paid doing this? Right. And but that's another thing too. Like I wrote a book about, you know, just going off of everything that I've learned. You know what I mean? Because I didn't know anything. So I was just grown into it. So I'm like, it's nobody out there who tell you how much a charge. It's like people just gatekeep those information. That information all the time. It's like they don't tell you where to go. Shout out, they don't tell you anything. No showrooms. It's no, they don't tell you nothing.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

Anything.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

Yeah, so I wrote it, I got an ebook that has literally given the full or what's the name of it? It's called Stylus.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

Oh, okay, yeah. Tell me y'all stylist right now. Need to be ebooking that shit right now, because y'all need help. Tell me y'all need help. But um, like even like with me, when I started selling, like I started off here in Atlanta, which if I started selling here in Atlanta is a very tough place. Um so I started here in Atlanta by eventually moved to uh Los Angeles, and that was just it's tougher, but it's uh somewhat easier because it's more for us to like uh showroom and stuff like that. I didn't even know what a showroom was. I just know I at that time I just know going to the store, buying the flies outfit. Like, you know what I'm saying? I didn't even know showrooms or nothing. I had to go downtown and uh LA and just had to figure it out. You know, no one helped me.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

I I started making clothes.

SPEAKER_03 20:01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

I was like, okay, these designers want to be uh dingy and bougie. Okay, I can make something. I know how to sell too. Y'all the only ones that know how to sell. Oh so you know I started making clothes and putting it on my clients and then it uh branched out to other things. I just I don't wait on nobody. Right, yeah, that's it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

That's a hustler. Oh no, let me let me figure this out. Let me figure that out.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

You're not gonna ever feel that you uh held any door for me. Like you didn't close any doors on me. Right. There's no doors to be closed for me.

SPEAKER_03 20:29

I I'm too late, I would have been sweating making like, uh-uh, girl, look, hold on. Uh just wear what you had on last yesterday, girl, because I ain't making it Um Um How how difficult you think it is to be in a stylist in Atlanta?

SPEAKER_00 20:49

It's hard, honestly, because a lot of people is not as diverse with their look. There's a lot of BBL fashions out here, a lot of four-way stretch fabric. You know, everybody is so caught up on I gotta show my body, I gotta show my ways. And they're not caring about the structure and the art of the way. Yeah, it's no story. Everything is fashioned over, everything. I mean I love fashionover. Everything is fashioned over here, is it's a body kind. I tried to put an oversized look on the client one time, and she almost out because you wanted to just show her body like that. Give me a bell for my way, like it's the look, and it's a they a lot of people miss that here. You know, I've been asked a lot of times and told a lot of times to move to LA to go different places, but family is family keeps me here. It's close to my family, and that's the most important thing. Like, I don't I don't value money and fame and stuff like that. I value family, I value friendships. Like that's what I value myself. I'm gonna make it work wherever I'm at.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Plus you you live here, you can go anywhere. You can be anywhere. As a salary, we can live, we can live in China. If the money is is the money hitting somewhere, we can be right on the next flight.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

Right.

SPEAKER_03 22:10

So do you think Atlanta get enough respect like in the fashion industry?

SPEAKER_00 22:15

No.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

Why not?

SPEAKER_00 22:17

I mean, um I don't think Atlanta is known for fashion. You know what I mean? Like when I think of fashion, I don't think Atlanta. The first thing you think of is New York.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

You know, like we have our showrooms, the Ivy Showroom, which I love them. This is all my family there.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

They they got really nice stuff there. I was, I'm not gonna lie, from coming from LA and like going to the Ivy showroom, I was really impressed. Like, you know what I'm saying? I was like, oh, okay. This is a real showroom. Because you know, people be like, oh, I got a showroom you go in there, it's like two. Yeah, they got like a little rack of clothes. Like, girl, I got all this shit at home. Like, but the Ivy showroom was really nice. Like, I was like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:56

This is a real showroom.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Yeah, I mean, it's not respected like that. But I think it's the body culture, I feel like it's that's what the thing is here. It's big on body and you know, hair and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

Right, but you right now I feel like Atlanta feel like they are booming when it comes to like, especially like streetwear. Atlanta feel like that they are the top streetwear, like I see that um is relaxed.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

It's not a lot of work put into it.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

So how do you feel about the whole conversation when they like asking like people like the street wear, Atlanta streetwear versus New York streetwear? They like all people be like, oh, Atlanta brands is more popping than New York streetwear brands.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Um, I think New York focused so much on their Timblings. It's like Timblings and furs. It's like we get the look. It's like do something else. You know, Atlanta do mix it up. You know what I mean? Like, so I will say Atlanta is key with streetwear here for sure.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

See, I my opinion on this whole thing, and I'll put this on Instagram so y'all can go check it out.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

But I my thing New York do not kill me.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

I love Timberless and I love furs, but I'm just saying, if I want to make it.

SPEAKER_03 24:04

It's so funny because I almost had some Timbs on today with another outfit. But um, I feel like this. I feel like, yes, Atlanta has a lot of great streetwear brands, but I also feel like it's like they almost like throwaways. I like it's like you can be cute to wear it today, but like in a few months, like you can like really give it to like your younger brother or something. Uh-huh. Like, you know, I feel like New York makes like structured pieces that you're gonna want to keep in your closet. I just feel like that's different. The difference, like New York makes pieces that like brands, they make pieces that like you can keep in your closet and you can wear at any time. And like new, and Atlanta make things that's like what's fly right now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so right now, like you we gonna get something blinged out. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And in New York, you might get something that's like might be plaid. Like, you know what I'm saying? Where that like it might like you look at it now, like, uh, but then later on, you're like, oh dang, I can damn this shit hitting right now. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's that's my thing. But I feel like I like clothes, so yeah. So if it's fly, I'm gonna do it. Yeah. You worked around like um reality TV and like different, like just like different people on reality TV. How is that? Like, how is it working with those like wild, big-to-life personalities?

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Um It's a lot, it's a lot of energy, but some people they just get it. Like some people who just understand fashion, they get it. They don't question me. They just be like, okay, well, see you at five o'clock. They don't be asking about every detail. It's always the people who can't dress who ask me the most questions.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

Like can't dress no budget.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

Can't dress no budget, and they ask all the questions. They want to see the looks, they want to just, they feel like, I mean, they style it themselves and it looks the same, and I don't never tag it. I don't never see. I'm like, okay, you want to give me free money. That's what it's giving right now at this point. I'm not gonna say no.

SPEAKER_03 25:57

Right. So Right, that's crazy. Like, because that that really how it really be like like the best people, um, like the the best client, like the best client size relationship is when the client is actually listening to their stylus.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

Because a lot of times, like, it don't happen like that. I had a client before, um, it's one client, is one of my main clients. I'm gonna say Keisha. Keisha, one of the people, like, she, in her head, she knows. You know what I'm saying? So you can bring her ideas, like, you know what I'm saying? And like then, like, she'd be like, oh, okay, now I see your ideas. So it's still like a 50-50. We we like doing a 50-50 job. Like, you know what I'm saying? She even came out one day, like, oh yeah, don't post this because I styled this. Remy did that. Remy Ma used to do that to me all the time. I used to have shit, put a look together, and she she might throw in a different book. She's like, oh yeah, and I style myself for this. Girl, after all done ran around and miss skin and grabbed all that shit. Girl, no, you didn't, but okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

It's a lot of work. People don't understand how much work it really is to be a stylist, all the running around. Like hairstylists, makeup artists, y'all got it so good. You bring a makeup palette to set, you bring your flat irons, your straightened comb to set, and you good. Like and you leave. And you leave.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

You can leave.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

A wardrobe stylist, we have to work sometimes two weeks, sometimes a month in advance before the whole entire photo should even start. So come up with any of them. And then they don't even want to tag you or nothing. You feel like a whole month running around stuff, yeah, and don't want to tag.

SPEAKER_03 27:29

And don't want to tag me, don't don't want to pay me like properly, like I'm supposed to be paid. Um, like, and that's a whole thing, and that's another reason why I just want to do this. Because I feel like we don't get what we deserve. Like, I for one, I feel like the stylist is the hardest working it is, the hardest job in the entertainment business. Because for one, we're coming up with your image. We got to keep your image of what people are seeing, why people like you. Why they saying you, ooh, you look cute in that. Or why, like, why didn't it start of the show, really?

SPEAKER_00 27:58

It's the whole shoot. Without the clothes, what you got?

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

You know, so exactly.

SPEAKER_03 28:03

So, yeah, definitely 100%. I'm with you on that. Yeah. So, what is it like selling someone? So, you know, right now, one of the the hot, the hot uh topics right now in Atlanta is Atlanta housewives. Like, you know what I'm saying? So you just tell probably majority of all of those girls right now. Who on the cast right now?

SPEAKER_00 28:22

We got right now is uh K Michelle and Kelly.

SPEAKER_03 28:26

Oh, you do K Michelle and Kelly. Oh yeah, they look cute. I used to work with I worked with K Michelle before too. Yeah. Yeah, I did get I used to work with K Michelle back in the um past. You know, we had our ups and downs and shit like that. But all in all, when it comes to styling and things like that, K Michelle, we was good. She she listened to me and she was cool. Yeah. I hold on, let me tell you a story about this. I just thought about this. This ain't even I just thought about this. I remember one of the first times me working with K Michelle, we was in LA. And um I think that she was expecting because I used to work with this guy. You know who Joe Exclusive is?

SPEAKER_02 28:57

I've heard of him, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Yeah, he had sales in LA. Older, older, oh, older. Oh no, yes, I do. Yes. I'm so sorry. I'm bad when that is. Yeah, yes. Um, but um, I used to work with him, and um he had sent me to go do the job for K Michelle, and I and I think that she didn't know that I was pulling up. So she had an attitude. She had an attitude, like, and I'm like, I'm already like, girl, will my attitude too. Like, but but when she walked, when she came in and saw all the like clothes, and because I'm known for bringing racks and racks, racks. I'm going, I'm shopping. I'm shopping, I'm step, I'm pulling, I'm doing, I'm doing everything. I'm calling designers. I know. I'm just because you never know where we can go with this moment. Like, you know what I'm saying? So um she walked in and saw all the clothes. She was like, oh my God. She turns in, she loved it. She loved it. So how's it like working with um some of the housewives? Who your favorite one to work with?

SPEAKER_00 29:50

I think my favorite one to work with is Kelly.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Kelly?

SPEAKER_00 29:53

Yeah. Like we just got started, but I really love her energy. She's such a mother. I just love that. Like you walk in the house, she's making sure everyone is good, everyone is taken care of. Like, she's cooking before you get there. The clothes smelling like a little bit of a little bit of a little bit and everything before you walk out the house, you know. But it's she's gonna make sure you're good, everyone's good. And I really love that about her. And good energy always. She tags down. Like, she is like, what do I need to put on this picture before I, you know, post it? Or even if it's something that needs to be corrected, she will correct it. She's like, okay, great. Yeah, she's on it. She pays on time. Like, you know what I mean? I like Kelly.

SPEAKER_03 30:31

She has been looking cute, so now that I know it's you doing it. Yeah, yeah, she has been looking real cute. Um, her confessionals be cute. Like, um, I love Kelly. And she look, and I like her, she a little firecracker too.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

She is. She a little firecracker. That little shade. Heart, her personality is amazing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

Yeah, that's that's what's up. Uh how's it working with? Did I actually already have how's it working with Kay? How long have you been working with Kay?

SPEAKER_00 30:53

I've been working with Kay for like on and off for almost five years, six years.

SPEAKER_03 30:57

On and off. It always with Kay gotta be on and off.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

No, me and Kay is like family though. We like sisters, so we have our little moments, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 31:06

But then it's like K sometim, she can be a little up, she can be up one day, she can be up, K, and she can be down on the ground, ready in the gutter, ready to go. Okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

I think she just she a boss. Like she has a lot on her plate. And I just feel like because she has so much on her plate, like she, you know, any type of incorrection, it kind of overwhelms her. So I just I've learned that about her.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

Um I think that she's doing a good job on the on Housewives. I feel like she likes she bringing something to the uh bringing something to the table. I was scared at first. I was like, oh, like even like you know, because just like from our platform, our platform is always something different from housewives platform, the the the Lender platform. So you know, when you think of like what we come to give, it's not always what the housewives are doing. Like, you know what I'm saying? So like I just like and she didn't, she showed up, she she a housewife. I'm like, oh well, Kate, give it housewives. Like a country ass housewife. Right. But she but she giving housewives, and I like that. And I I like that for her. What kind of yours had then spent like the most money? Like what some who's somebody that's really be dropping the bag?

SPEAKER_00 32:13

It don't be celebrities. It becomes it don't be, it's never the celebrities, celebrities and the the, you know, yes, stay-at-home moms and stuff like that. Like I work with everybody. Like I mean. Yeah, I work with everybody. I treat everyone exactly the same. I don't care who you are, what you do for a living, I treat everyone exactly the same. So yeah, I get the most from non-celebrity people, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

Yeah, yeah. People that are like they and those people, they really allow you to be you.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

Completely, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

I love that. Like they let like, okay, they might be like, uh, I don't know, but then they put it on and you you give them, you know, you know, we gotta give them our stylus pup talk. You know that stylus pumps up when they get that outfit. They're like, oh girl, yeah, oh, that looks good. Oh, yeah, oh yeah, them shoes. Oh yeah, girl, you about to eat them up. You gotta give them that confidence. And they be like, okay, yeah, I can do this. Like, yeah. That's a real thing. But um, so what is like the most like expensive, like maybe like item that you done bought for a client, or like maybe like something like a client like came in, like, oh, here go 100k, I need a new wardrobe. Like something like experience.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

Yeah, I've done that for sure. A whole new wardrobe, full new closet. Uh, it was like 120K for their budget. I mean, it wasn't a full, it's crazy how money goes so fast.

SPEAKER_03 33:30

And like 120k seemed like a lot, but if you're trying to get a full wardrobe, it wasn't completely like you're gonna give about like you're gonna give a good eight to ten looks depending on where you're shopping at.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

Yeah, and the stuff that they like. Right. So it was, you know, but yeah, that was the one uh 120k was good.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

I remember I had this one client who came from, hold on, I was still living in. Yes, I was still in LA. Yeah, it was in LA. I just and it was actually during COVID too. Like, she hit me up like, hey, I'm looking, I'm I need a new look. I'm gonna, I got a new um buy I lost weight. Da. Um, I wasn't even really doing selling at this point. It just like I just loved her energy, how she came at me. So I was like, okay, and she had that bag. She came with that bag that oh, what? I'll pay you double. I'll do this. We met up. We went to, we went all around the LA shopping one day. And she, when I say that lady spent like 200 something K, she was buying like to the point like I was tired. I was tired of spending her money. Right. I was like, girl, I almost threw me something in there. I was like, hold on, let me throw a shirt in there. It might not. You know, we can throw a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a you know we can throw a little something in there. You know, we can be doing it. Y'all know sometimes I be throwing something in there and you know it don't be knowing. I d I d I ain't gonna lie. I've done done it before and I can say it. I ain't gonna say his name. Yes, I will. Deshaun Jackson. I ain't gonna lie. It was Deshaun Jackson. Hey, I was I was working a lot. And I wasn't getting paid properly. So, yeah, I had to throw in me a shoe or two.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Okay, two.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

Yeah. Um okay, while putting nobody on blast, what's the least that you felt like somebody that came up to you and like wanted to work with you and like they like like budget wise? Yeah. Like for a celebrity. Somebody was like, That's a celebrity.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

Oh, a celebrity, okay.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

Um I don't want to say no names. But I will say, this is before she came out, but she's big now. And um her manager and everybody was like, oh my god, we need something like five in the morning. I'm like, five in the morning. You know, so they're like, oh, the budget is 200. For what?

SPEAKER_03 35:50

For me to do what? For me to answer this call right now?

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Well, she really don't need, you know, she only needs one look, you know. Okay then, well, y'all need to go to the store and get that. Right. I'm not, I'm sorry. I just mm mm.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Get an intern to do that.

SPEAKER_03 36:08

Uh what was like, have you ever had like had to deal with like a wardrobe malfunction, like a bad wardrobe malfunction, like with a client?

SPEAKER_00 36:17

I did, but um and they were just going crazy. Well, it was a shirt, it was just going insane, like, oh my god, like, you know, this shirt doesn't fit and blah blah. I'm just like, I'm very calm. Like, I don't I don't believe in going crazy over a fabric, like thread and needle and thread. I just can't see myself just going crazy, like crying and running around a building over a shirt. Like, I just can't do that. I'm like, well, you know, you spent 20 minutes talking about this shirt, and I could have gone to the store, had my assistant go to the store and get another one. You know what I mean? Like, I just feel like we're wasting time. Like, let's make something happen instead of you complaining about we always got time to fix it.

SPEAKER_03 37:00

And the best thing is like as a salary is like in those moments is to be calm. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because you don't want the client to feel like that this is about to be a complete failure. Yeah. Like, um, like let me tell you this. I'll tell you a quick story about I wasn't a wardrobe malfunction, but I feel like this is a part of a wardrobe malfunction. So we in, I'm in Barbados, Keisha Ko, she's hosting this like festival, right? So, you know, before the festival, we all turning up, having fun, like da-da-da, like having a good time. And so we go to get on the buses that's taking us to the festival. So we all part making jokes, laughing, cracking up, da-da-da. I just look out of nowhere and realize, why did I leave the other looks? The other two looks, we're doing two, we was doing three looks, two outfit changes, and we left the I left the other looks at the hotel. That's an easy mistake, though. That's an easy mistake. So she only got this one look. Like, so I'm just like, oh my God. So I just like, I'm told, I told my friend Paris, like, oh my God, I left the clothes at da-da-da-da. She's like, Did you? She's like, did you just I did not want to tell her. I did not want to tell her. So we pull up, we there, we at the um venue, she going on stage, and she's like, You got the other looks? And I just told her, not right now. I don't got almost. She's like, she just looked at me like now.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

Give me a second.

SPEAKER_03 38:19

She literally just looked at me like, I was like, I'm sorry, I left them at the hotel. She just went on stage just to perform. We performed in that one look for the whole night. And it was cool.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

People roll with the punches. Like you get it. Like things happen.

SPEAKER_03 38:31

Like, right. These are always gonna happen. You never God is in control.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

What's the craziest behind the scenes fashion moment that you ever had to deal with?

SPEAKER_00 38:41

Uh the craziest, I have a clothing line too called Mason Bretter. And the craziest moment was the fashion show, like behind the scenes for that, and just the hair, the makeup, all the models, and that was insane. Like that was a wild time. So, and then just having enough time to change out certain people, like when this model comes back to the back and having that time to change them, and that was a lot.

SPEAKER_03 39:06

Yeah, fashion shows a lot is crazy. I I literally started in fashion working working in fashion shows, but um, yeah, I just had the fashion show too. I got a I got my own brand and I was cussing everybody out. Like, I I normally run things myself. I'm normally the one who put my shit together, the one who did like so uh yeah, Mama Head be everywhere. Like, I was in there cussing them models out. That's what I was like. The models. Oh yeah, the models, my models, it was it's Atlanta. They was outside going outside smoking, taking drinks and shots, come back in. Hey, sit your ass down. Sit your ass down. Uh, this ain't that.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

But yeah, it was just like Atlanta's so relaxed and chill.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

They just like they just like fuck it. Atlanta's a fucking like like New York is very structured, yeah. LA is very structured, Atlanta is very ghetto.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Atlanta is lemon pepper wings and hookah and lamb chops.

SPEAKER_03 40:02

So you just being like, just because just in yourself, you got style. You're a beautiful girl, you're fine. Have you ever had like any like celebrity like try to like that you was working with try to come on to you or like even like try to come on to you or even like somebody like they nigga try to come on to you? Like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Like that happen?

SPEAKER_03 40:22

She like, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

Yeah. What happened? I really hate working with um clients, spouses. Like, I don't I don't like that. I don't want to have his phone number do a group chat, like you just tell me what you want.

SPEAKER_03 40:37

Right, because you're a baddie.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

It's not that hard. Like, a man's outfit to me is not really that hard, especially if you just want like a suit or something like that. I don't have to talk to him for a suit. Like, just tell me the measurement size and I'm done. I don't have to call him about anything else. You know what I mean? So I try to prevent any communication for real. I remember one time I did a fitting and um, you know, I was doing my squats or whatever, and the client, the husband was there, we was all doing a fitting, and then I had to get up to get something, and she literally grabbed me from the back and started walking behind me as I was going to what I was grabbing so her husband wouldn't see my butt.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

If your It'd be a it'd be a lot of weird stuff like that. Right. I don't even if you got a husband, I child, just give me the budget for him. I don't have to see him.

SPEAKER_03 41:29

Right, that is crazy. No, I I've been through a lot of shit like that. Like me just being a guy and I work with a lot of girls. And like, even with me being uh gay or bisexual or whatever it is, niggas, they don't give a fuck. Because I'm they look like me as a nigga. They don't give a fuck. I talk like a nigga, I walk like a nigga, dress like a nigga. They like, I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_00 41:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

I need proof or something. I'm like, girl, I can send you a video of me. No, no, but uh, I'm like, no, so many times I get into it with clients like I had this one client who um, it was when I first moved to LA and we was working and was shoot doing a photo shoot. And she had somebody there um who was her manager and her like her nigga. And um he was just like already just like this aggressive towards me. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I had gave her a drink because you know, we doing a photo shoot, so and we and we had a snake coming where she's gonna do a photo shoot with a snake, and she was already like tense enough, scared and stuff like that. So we um I had brung like she told me to bring a bottle, like so we she can have something to drink. So I gave her a couple drinks, and um he like just like was going off on me, like, oh, you just trying to get her loose, like I like meanwhile, she is not my I'ma say her name. It was it was uh Tori Hart.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

You say somebody's name.

SPEAKER_03 42:51

Oh yeah, I'm gonna say uh I ain't scared of none of y'all hoes. This this is it was Tori Hart. I was working with her, and the guy that um that was doing the rest in peace was I I heard that he did pass, but um, it was just a big thing. But I had my um stylus scissors and all that in my end because I was gonna have to, this case I had to cut that man up because he was it got that like aggressive. He was like mad, like doing stuff like uh like King Kong ain't got nothing on me. Okay, nigga, I'm about to show you exactly. Yeah, but yeah, I've been through it, just be crazy. Like we just really be here to work.

SPEAKER_00 43:25

Yeah, that's all I be wanting to do.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

Now, because we you you ain't new to the streets of Atlanta. So we gotta get I heard some gossip, some streets. We got some gossip. Just at this, and it's about fashion, about sales and c and clients, but it's messy too. Um so we're on the street. I don't know if it's true, and you can clear this up and you can have your uh what you about to say?

SPEAKER_00 43:49

Yo, whisper this thing.

SPEAKER_03 43:53

I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna say light skinned.

SPEAKER_00 43:58

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 44:00

You don't want to talk about Keisha.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_03 44:05

Oh you don't know who it is. Well, can I tell you what was said? You don't want to. Can I tell you what was what the streets were saying? What happened between you? Did you ever work with this person? Oh just no. She's like, mm-mm. No, I don't know. I don't know. But what what what we had heard, you know, my ears, I'm messy, I be in the streets, I've been hearing shit. Shit, like, and just as a stylist, just from stylist, I I literally heard from another stylist, to be honest. Um, that um you were working with somebody, styling somebody, helping them out when they was like at a low part of their life, and you were dating somebody and they started dating them while you or or something like they started messing with them while you were styling them or something like that. That is that is that true? That's not true. That's not true. Not at all. Okay, well, she cleared it up.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

That's false information.

SPEAKER_03 45:08

Okay. Well, as long as you cleared it up though. It's cleared up, so that didn't happen. Oh, so you don't know? Just removed them.

SPEAKER_00 45:19

I don't know them. Oh, okay. Just remove. I don't, you know. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:23

I know you, you know, but I don't know. Okay. Okay, yeah. We don't know. Like, like Mariah Carey said, I don't know her. Moving on. Okay, so so we're gonna this is gonna be the last part. We're gonna get into some rapid fire questions and just um, it's all about it's all quick and easy styling. So, um, okay, best dressed celebrity in Atlanta. Usher. Usher. Okay, I love, I love Usher. I love um, I love Usher the way he dressed, his tour, all of that. It was really good. Um, most overrated luxury brand.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

I would say Balenciaga.

SPEAKER_03 46:01

Blenciaga. Oh, that's so crazy because last week on the show, we did um, I have a segment here that's called Designer on Trial. And then we put Bliss Blenciaga on trial because it's like, what the fuck is y'all doing now?

SPEAKER_00 46:13

Yeah. I feel like it's getting kind of lazy. At this point, it's kind of like just they playing with it where about the money at this point.

SPEAKER_03 46:19

Right, yeah. That's why I say it's either super lazy or they just like taking this mic and making it a shoe. Yeah. Like, I'm tired of that shit. Like, I don't want no mic as a shoe.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

It's not like a social experiment.

SPEAKER_03 46:31

Um, one trend that you feel like needs to die immediately bright color hair. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

Like that.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

If it's not a natural hair tone, like, you know, red is a natural hair tone because people are red, you know.

SPEAKER_03 46:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

Blonde. I feel like those natural hair tones are good, but when you go to key lime green, key lime pie green, and yeah, pink, like it's like, it's giving real kitty.

SPEAKER_03 46:56

Right. Like, I always say that. I always think for at a certain age, like, okay, girl. Um, archive fashion or custom? Custom. Custom. You want to custom. I love a custom. You wanna you want a custom, uh, a custom, okay. I think that I like custom, but I do like, I do like to like feel like I'm a part of an era too. Like, you know what I'm saying? And sometimes like uh um pieces can make you feel like you're a part of an era, like, or give off that story. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I'll be like, I like, I like uh archive. Biggest diva that you ever worked with. And diva don't always mean bad. Just because you're a diva don't mean that it's a bad thing. Diva could be like, she was on her shoes, like, oh no, make sure that I have these type of shoes or this or that, like you know what I'm saying? Don't always mean like, oh, she's a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 47:44

I say myself, because I'm so hard on me. Like it would take me forever to get dressed for some reason. It takes me all day, but it just be because I get everyone else dressed, I be so tired when it's time for me to get dressed. Like then it's like, okay, now I gotta find me something to wear, and this ain't it, and that ain't it. It's just I I think I'm hard on myself. Oh, okay. Like I'm quick to style somebody else, but me, it's like, what am I about to do?

SPEAKER_03 48:07

Right. Worst fashion era of all time. I would say now.

SPEAKER_00 48:12

Now, right now, because everything is going to Y2K, everything is referenced. Everything is, yes, full what already been done.

SPEAKER_03 48:21

Yeah, I I feel like everything is so referenced right now. I'll talk about that too. Everything is so referenced, no one really has their own personality identity. Everybody is is a Pinterest move board. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? No one has originality anymore. So yeah, I agree with that. One celebrity closet that you would like to steal from. Rihanna. Rihanna, that was easy. Rihanna. Well, you take Rihanna West.

SPEAKER_00 48:45

Yeah, that's about to say that Rocky, he got the purses.

SPEAKER_03 48:48

Damn, you got all of mine. She just took my she took my Kanye and my ASAP, but that's where I would go. Kanye ASAP, definitely 100%. And Rihanna, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

Man, I would have a I would have so much fun in her father.

SPEAKER_03 48:59

Do you like what you wore to the Matt Gallup?

SPEAKER_00 49:01

It was the what was it?

SPEAKER_03 49:03

It was like that oyster-looking outfit that it was like silver.

SPEAKER_00 49:09

The dress, for some reason, I didn't really care for the hair. I felt like something was doing too much. But when I saw the behind the scenes when she was getting dressed, and before so much was added, I thought that was so beautiful. And then it just sometimes too much, you know, you can do too much with the accessories anyway.

SPEAKER_03 49:25

Okay, one celebrity that always comes dress ready.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

What you mean dress ready?

SPEAKER_03 49:30

Like they. Yeah, like like just like dress like T. Dress T. Dress to T.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

Um, do I have to keep saying Rihanna again?

SPEAKER_03 49:41

Then you know who I just popped up in my head? It's Tiana Taylor.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Oh, yeah. Tiana Taylor. It's the body, it's everything. The body, the face, the clothes. T.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

T, T.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

Like everything she does is just on point.

SPEAKER_03 49:54

Yes, it really does. It be so on point, everything. It's like well thought out.

SPEAKER_00 49:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:59

Like she really be thinking about her, that story before she put that story in.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

I love that about her. Last question is one thing that a stylist secretly hates doing.

SPEAKER_00 50:10

With me personally, stop giving me the wrong sizes. I'm not against you. Like, I'm your stylist. If you gain weight, that's okay. Like, tell me, girl, I'm an extra large. You know, but they giving me smalls. I have to go on there. The thing that I do to make sure they're not lying, I say, what is your legging size? If you tell me you're small and your legging sizes are large, baby girl.

SPEAKER_03 50:34

That is why are you lying?

SPEAKER_00 50:37

Because now if I bring all these smalls and you can't fit anything, now I have to start over. Or ask the designer if I can, you know, split it open and add fabric to make it fit you. And that's just a whole lot of extra work. But yeah, just tell me the right sizes. I'm not against you. I have to know your size. If you gain weight, you could be ashamed of that. It's okay. I'm here to make you feel comfortable in the whatever size you're in. But if you give me the wrong size, I gotta start over.

SPEAKER_03 51:03

Yeah. Now I gotta go run this shit all the way back. And now I'm about to double charge your ass. Mine's is, I think mine is like having a uh a peanut gallery in there while I'm giving trying to put a look together for you. Like, oh no, I don't like that. Well, bitch, it's not for you to like. You're not paying me. It'd be like just a random friend in there. What is those? What is that? Yeah, girl, you barely give me a spell your name.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:31

Why are you trying to worry about how to say this brand? Like it's that shit be piss at me. I used to be, I would get into it all the time. Like, what? How hey, you gotta go.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

You'd be the friend, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

You gotta go, girl. You gotta, you're barely hanging over. Girl, if you don't go, like, that means that that was always my thing. I hate that. But I truly thank you for coming up here, spending some time with me. Um, talking fashion, talking Atlanta, talking style. Like, and you Yeah, New York.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 52:05

You gotta keep saying because New York don't play.

SPEAKER_00 52:08

New York gonna be in the comments.

SPEAKER_03 52:09

Hold on, what's she at?

SPEAKER_00 52:11

The women fashion in New York is on point, but to me, I don't think the men fashion is all the way.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

No, yeah. Man, man, definitely. You got it's just those certain guys. I got some certain people. I'm gonna put you on to some certain niggas. In New York, that's some fly ass, fly ass hood. They can get money too. Um, but um, yeah, I appreciate you coming up here and shopping with you. Always are welcome here. This is this is your couch, like it's my couch. You can always come here, talk fashion. You got something you want to say, you got something you're doing. Uh, fashion show, we'll cover it, whatever you got going on. Let me know. We want to help you, support you, and be a part. And you're just a beautiful person, like inside and out. So I'll I'll fuck with that. So thank you for coming.

SPEAKER_00 52:50

I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_03 52:52

Um, do you got anything that you wanna um where can they find your brand? Where they can find your ebook, let them know.

SPEAKER_00 52:58

Well, I have a fashion show coming out. I'm releasing like a whole new collection for my brand. I had a lot of people in China taking my designs. Like, I mean, my stuff was just everywhere. And, you know, and I know that happens a lot, but I just had to start over and just read I just figure it out. Like, how can I maximize you know, the first release before they all get to it? Right. So I'm doing a whole new collection now, and I have a fashion show for that, so I'm gonna need you to go for that.

SPEAKER_03 53:28

I will, I will.

SPEAKER_00 53:29

And um, yeah, my ebook, stylus ebook, is on Amazon.

SPEAKER_03 53:33

So yeah, make sure y'all cop that. I'm gonna send it that ebook to a whole bunch of y'all niggas I see running around here thinking just because y'all got uh a czara receipt that y'all are a stylist, okay? Thank you, Miss Amy J for coming to the fashion verdict. And like I said, you always are welcome.

SPEAKER_02 53:51

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03 53:54

To my guest, Amy J. Thank you for stopping by the courtroom today and giving us the real tee on Atlanta styling, wardrobe malfunctions, and bum bitches with no money, and what it really takes to survive in the styling business. Because, baby, styling is not easy. Especially when the client says they know more than the stylist. And remember this fashion is supposed to evolve. But style, style should feel personal. Now copy and paste. Nah, I saw this on Instagram. Now this is my life now. Baby, spindle look. This has been another fashion verdict with Zell Swag, where fashion gets praised, roasted, analyzed, and occasionally dragged through the courtroom. I'm your host, Zell Swag. And until next Friday at 6 p.m., stay stylish, stay original, and stop letting your little cousin style from the mall for important events. All right, y'all have a good day.