The Best Friend Project
When her best friendship ended, Rachel Joy Swardson went to the bathroom. Hundreds of them. She taped up postcards with a QR code in bathroom stalls, asking the question she was too hurt and humiliated to verbalize, "How do you do friendship?" Thousands of women answered, and their stories changed and healed her. So she brought them forward, here for you on The Best Friend Project podcast.
The Best Friend Project
Ep 6: โ๏ธ On the Phone | Noelle Rhodes (Well, almost...)
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Well, I completely botched the time change, so Noelle and I aren't actually on the phone today. ๐ But something happened this week that I couldn't wait to share. After my conversation with Noelle, I found myself putting one of her friendship lessons into practice with a new-ish friend, and it was scary. But good. I think? You decide!
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Well, I should be on the phone right now with Noelle Rhodes. However, I botched the time change. She's on the East Coast. I'm Central Time. And we were not able to connect by phone. This is another thing that I struggle with. I don't think I'll ever get it right. So, in lieu of a conversation with Noelle, I do want to share something kind of exciting that happened following the episode with Noelle, where we talked about how funny people can be easily dismissed when you're sharing something actually really sincere and the person you're telling laughs. In that episode, I talked about how I confessed that I told my bridesmaid I didn't want to marry my husband the morning of my my wedding. And she said, Oh, Rachel, you're so funny. So under that umbrella, I was talking to a friend actually yesterday, and I was saying how I was all stressed out and my mom's going into assisted living, and you know, it was just all this drama stuff, and she's a newer friend, and as I was telling her all this kind of stuff, she starts laughing and she's like having a good chuckle. And I was like getting annoyed. She's a newer friend, and I was thinking, like, fuck this, I'm never talking to her again. This is bullshit. And then I was like, no, I'm not gonna say that and be a spaz. So instead of internalizing it and being psychotically annoyed, I said, Hey, can I pause here for a second? Deep breath. I was like, on the last episode of the Best Friend Project podcast, I interviewed a comedian named Noelle, and we talked about how it can feel to be laughed at. And I told her that I liked her, that we are new friends, and that I was really trying to connect with her and be vulnerable and share something that was really stressful for me in my life. And she started laughing. And I went on to, you know, explain that laughter is one of the fastest ways to erode safety in a friendship while at the same time being something that is one of the number one connectors. So it is complex, obviously, in when to laugh and when not to laugh. But in this case, I was like, it's very clearly I'm not being funny. Um, and my comment was met by complete silence, and I was like, oh shit. And then she said, Thank you for explaining that. You're funny when you explain things, but you're right. I really wasn't listening to you. I was just sort of being entertained by the conversation. And then she said, I'm sorry, your mom's going through that. And and then we had a really like the kind of friendship talk that two friends would have. And I was like, Okay, I think I'm learning, I think I'm growing, I think I can do this. Um, and it's all thanks to Noelle and that incredible conversation. So um, on me that I botched the time change. So maybe there'll be a part two to this. But uh in lieu of a part two, you can find all things Noelle Rhodes at Noelle Rhodes Comedy on Instagram. And um, again, if you haven't yet heard episode two of the Best Friend Project podcast, you may do so wherever you get your podcasts. And thank you for listening and thank you for being here. Talk to you next time.