We Got Motion
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We Got Motion
We Got Motion Podcast With P-Dub & CalWood & Special Guest Niesha Jackson Ep. 7
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In episode 6 of We Got Motion Dub and Cal invite their first special guest Niesha Jackson the Bank Robbing Babe of American Greed infamy to the live stream. Stay tuned for more in depth subject matter as the hosts continue to expand their Motion.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we got motion, man. Anybody that's text in, man, we appreciate you. You see, we got the special guest on. You feel me? Nisha Jackson. You know what I'm saying? Of course, we got my co-host, got my boy, man. You know what I'm saying? He got the the buff buffs on. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna see me a little extra special today. He's feeling himself today. You feel me? We got special guests.
SPEAKER_02We got a special guest, so I gotta do everything special today, you know.
SPEAKER_00What's up, right? Introduce yourself, hey, hey, introduce yourself, niche, to the to the people so they know what's going on.
SPEAKER_03I'm Nisha Jackson, aka Bay Rich Beauty, you know, from the murder dubs. It's two eight niche, you know. And I'm just here to talk about whatever.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay. Where we at? Where we at? What what's wrong?
SPEAKER_02Where we at, bro? All right, so tell us a little bit about your like. So I Googled you, you know. I've done it, you've done a lot. A lot. I know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the government said I did a lot, but I was just gonna lost something, some but they they gave you this nickname.
SPEAKER_02Where did it where did this nickname come from?
SPEAKER_03Um, it came from the government. Um, bank robbing babe, because um I got charged with fraud, with fraud with the feds, and they said I robbed banks with phones and credit cards. So everybody thought I was going in robbing banks, but I wasn't robbing banks. I manipulated the system using a phone and credit cards.
SPEAKER_02That's hard.
SPEAKER_03So that's how they came up with bank robbing, baby, and then I, you know, I revamped it to Bear Rich Beauty BRB.
SPEAKER_02So is Bear Rich Beauty a makeup line? Is it a lifestyle?
SPEAKER_03Is it is it like a what is it's a bread, it's a lifestyle, it's a movement, you know. It got everything to do with like just beauty. Uh, you know, I'm not a baddie, I'm a beauty. So it's like, you know, I want to um mess with the young girls in my community or just around all around the world to tell them my story and try to help them steer in the right direction instead of going left, go right because it's not worth it. I wasted a lot of time being behind the bars because with the picture they painted, the government of me, you know, doing fraud. So the bank robber thing came came upon because to them I was doing the most.
SPEAKER_02So you said go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. So you so you said uh talking to the young girls, you look young yourself. So you say you teach the titles or something because you look a good 29, 30. So I'm trying to see what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm a um cat. I'm um 46, about to be 47. So, like, you know, I would like to speak to the youth anywhere from 10 to 30, you know, and just tell them my story so I can have an impact on their life and let them know what I've been through and the reason why I went through it, you know, chasing that fast life, the fast money. Um, I grew up in the um dubs, east Oakland, California. Um, my first baby daddy, he is from West Oakland and he was a bank robber. So I was infatuated just with the lifestyle. You know, I was moving, shaking a thief first. That's how I started off. And then I was running back and forth from the east to the west, and I see how everybody was getting down, you know, because I grew up in the 80s, you know, I was born in 79. So by '85, I was in West Oakland going to the school with you know, people who was out there already hustling, selling rocks at a young age. And then in '91, I start, you know, still at a young age, and basically just named Well, just so you understand, it's grimy.
SPEAKER_00Everywhere she just named West Oakland and Dorothy. Yeah, it is grimy, it's gotta.
SPEAKER_02What's more grimy? West Oakland or East Oakland, because East Oakland ain't like the grimiest.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, uh well, West Oakland because it's smaller than East Oakland, but West Oakland, hey, back then when like I was my auntie was staying in the um high rises, which is cross street front of Projects Acorn. You could even be outside because they would shoot up the security, shooting in the hallways, like we had to dodge bullets like in the high rise on the eighth floor because we didn't know if the bullets was gonna be a way up there because they had shootouts every day in the daytime, nighttime, you know, everything went in the west. East Oakland is kind of big, so I think all the spot, bro.
SPEAKER_00It's just that it's just that the west, like the the east, the west could come to the east and kick it. East Oakland niggas don't go to the west and kick it. You gotta have a pass, exactly. Yeah, I'm saying then, mind you, that don't mean that anybody can just come to the east and just do anything, but it's just that east oakland niggas, unless you really fuck with yeah, you don't really fuck with them.
SPEAKER_03So the fly through the main streets like MacArthur, Bancroft, you don't have to even hit the hoods like that. But in West Oakland, you're gonna hit the hoods for sure. Acorn, ghost town, um, Cypress, Dog Town, Lower Bottom. Like, it's no way you can get through that without hitting the hoods.
SPEAKER_00Every spot, it's like Project Living, it's like a lot of project living on that side. You feel but she just named all the slime ball spots. No disrespect because I love my West Oakland niggas. Don't get it twisted. I'm just saying for a chick to be able to slide through and glide through and be able to fuck with it like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so I had the pleasure of being in both worlds, East Oakland, West Oakland. I was every day, that's what I did. I was in East Oakland, start off in East Oakland, and then hit the west and come back and finish it off in the east. And I would just be out there just kicking it, acorn. You know, they had back then it's the center, that's where everybody slid through with their old school, everybody was out there getting money. It was like a function every day, it was like live out there, legit. Like when I say everybody playing loud music, everybody hustling, um, females fighting, like it was real gutter out there. But like in East Oakland, it was gutter, but it's kind of like I'm in a murder dub, so it's like my home little turf. So we just out there really chilling. They was hustling also, or whatever, but like me being able to go to both spots, I could see the difference in how they was in West Oakland compared to how they was in East Oakland.
SPEAKER_02Okay, it's it's Oakland. Oakland is so much like Detroit, it's it's it's it's kind of crazy. Like we gotta be two cousins, man. Could be because I got the east, the the east and west side of Detroit. I'm from the west side, the west side is more so the flash size flashy, give money, you know, individuals, and then the the east side of Detroit. How I don't know if you see watch BMF, how Lamar character is. Yeah, all of them is like that on the east side.
SPEAKER_00Shout out to Marmore. You know, they used to call me when that was when I showcase, they used to call me Lamar Lamar's careless. You been to Detroit before?
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, I've been to Michigan. Um yeah, I just yeah, Michigan, I slid all through there. Um what is it? Um what is it? Detroit. I mean, I went to the World Series, but I was really out there hustling, so I just lived through all the um cities to get money out there.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so as far as you know, you was getting money and and doing what you was doing, I you know I'm I'm also I'm a I'm a get money nigga as myself, you know, myself, but I'm also a pocket watcher. So I need to know how much money you made in one day doing what you was doing, the most.
SPEAKER_03Um one day my goal would be like 20,000, so about 40,000 because I split it down the middle. I gave everybody half. So 40,000 was cool, but hey, if I could get 50 to 100,000, that was even better because you know I have my little habits, my shopping habits, so I always hustle. Like, I'm gonna put you like the Louis. I love Louis, Chanel, all that.
SPEAKER_02Okay, okay. Dang, 40 40,000 was a bad day.
SPEAKER_03Damn, yes, and that was like a cool day, but a good day, I could really bust a hundred if I had like five crews in five different states or five different cities. It was easy to pull that in because I mean they could really go in one place and get fifteen thousand at a time if they was both voted up, but everybody always did five to keep it cool to test the words out, but then they'll move it up to eight. But if they was bowing a different nationality, hey, they'd be like, I'm about to go up in here for 15. You think I'm like because you know they're gonna give it to us exactly, and I'm gonna make it do what it do. You feel me?
SPEAKER_00Like on my end, so but she was giving up half, though. Like, you know, bro, yeah, I was giving everybody half. I grew up getting 20 off a hundred grinding. You feel me? I'm saying was getting 20 off a hundred. You get a nigga 100. I'm getting 20 off there as a little nigga, and that's about the going rate coming up. So if a motherfucker to give somebody half of 40,000, because you think about it, you mother giving up five, ten thousand, that'd be it. So that's player.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'll give it half because I mean we we was banking unlimited money, so it's like, why did I need to be greedy? I want people to keep coming back.
SPEAKER_02Uh that's what I always tell people. When you move in any kind of system with a whole lot of wolves, as long as you feed them well, they'll never bite you. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00Well, well, in that case, that's a good segue. Did you ever get bit by any wolves that you were feeding?
SPEAKER_03Um, no, not really people I was feeding, it was really that I was close to, like um, you know, associates that I grew up with, friends. They was the ones who really start hating, was jealous, started trying to use my people who was, you know, going to get money hustling to have them hustle for them. And everything just got mixed up and contaminated. So that's how I basically got labeled as the bank robber baby, because they said basically I was over the whole scheme. Like I started the scheme, and basically everybody who ever got caught for that kind of crime, which is bank fraud, they tried to say they was up under me, which was not true. Everybody from down this way in Northern California, that was basically our that was basically our hustle, the approval game, you know. And I came in like in the early 2000s, mid-2000s, so people was doing it before me, but I painted my own lane, it wasn't no competition. I did my own thing, so that's how I was able to be successful because I just moved different, you know. I was never compare and compete with nobody, I was just on my own mission. But when it came down to it, people who knew of me or knew of somebody who was messed with me, the people closest to you is always the ones that get you. I can honestly say anybody who got money for me, they never got caught up, they never even did no time. Like they was good. I took I was the ball guy for everybody, but it's because my people who I was close with.
SPEAKER_00So look, so staying with the theme, like because that's a good thing. Like we the show is called We Got Motion, right? So it seemed like you had the most motion back then, right? Seemed like you was the one with the motion. You was even giving it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, I was definitely with the motion because, like I said, I had my own lane. I was able to, you know, carrier from the bay to all the way to Sack. Like I could go anywhere in the bay. I mean, like I said, East Oakland, West Oakland, North Oakland, Fairfield, Vallejo, Richmond, um, Sacramento, South Side, West Side, North Side, you know, everywhere. Like, I'm known everywhere, and ain't no dirt on my name. Everybody gonna give it up. Like, oh, when she was getting down, everybody was eating.
SPEAKER_00Right, nobody wasn't home. So look, so if we if we if we push from then to where you had the motion in, to right now where you're trying to get that, right? Who do you look at right now in a game? It ain't even gotta be like no illegal shit, whether it's music, whether it's entrepreneurship, whatever. Who do you look at right now that you feel like got motion right now that you would love to either be a part of, emulate, you know what I'm saying, or or like set your blueprint to that?
SPEAKER_03Global with us. I mean, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I've been out for over a year and everybody thirsty and and they grimy, and the fake is the new real. So I don't really, I don't know who got motion. I don't know what nobody doing, especially like legally, like everybody working that I know.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03But what we all this is something different, like I said, it's the global movement, we got motion movement, the BRB movement, like it's a lot of movements that's tied into one, and we know we coming together to make it happen, you know. Um, I don't see people out here doing that. Everybody's for self, everybody thirsty, um, everybody trying to get ahead. It's a competition still, but it's like really the hustle ain't the same. So I wouldn't ever want to have no part of really being with nobody.
SPEAKER_00I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't saying it's dope just because you know I'm saying because I'm a part of the movement too. I'm saying it's dope because a lot of the stuff that we be talking about, like I'm just I especially like you know, me and what me and you like it's only like a really a short nuclear stuff. Even some of the stuff we was doing today behind the scenes with deals and contracts, stuff like that. It really is a lot of fake ass shit going on right now, right? Yeah, I'm scared.
SPEAKER_03Like, I can't call nobody up and be like, tell somebody what my dreams and my goals is, and they're gonna be believing in me and want to help me. You guys believe in me, so I believe in y'all because this is something I dreamed of when I was doing that time, 10 years behind that wall. I pushed a hard line. I was recruited behind the walls. You feel me? Like the officers be like, Oh, you like cash money, oh, you like the master P like on the yard. You feel me? They would want to, you know, help me give talent shows and you know, um, just big events because I was so into I had people rapping, doing poetry, like designing clothes. So I was this is not something I started now. This is something that 10 years ago when I was on a run that I thought about, and then I took it and kept it pushing in the prison, and then my homegirl went home and you know, made it happen when she got home in 2019 and started the clothing line for me. The um be rich clothing line. We had customers. Let's shout her out.
SPEAKER_00Who's that?
SPEAKER_03Who was that Kelly McClinton? You've come Kale's from LA, you know, she made that happen. She believed in me too. You feel me? I believe in your boom. I believe oh, I'm into clothes. She was designing baby clothes at the time, and she was like, I'm gonna show you better than I could tell you. And like she was from LA, and we really built our bond in the prison. And I could say she the only one that I really met. And I ran across a lot of people that I knew from the streets or they knew of me from the game, being from Oakland, and everything they said they was gonna do, they didn't do nothing. So it's like, what was y'all? Oh, I was gone 10 years when I come home. Y'all still penny pitching, trying to hustle, faking it till y'all make it, and it's like still saying what are we doing, still with the same nine pack, selling the same co p exact, yeah. So, you know, I give big bigs up to my sister, you know, Kel's Kelly McClinton in LA because hey, she she owned that, you know. She gave me a lot of game on how to move in the business world, you know, like doing a cleaner business, getting commercial contracts, residential contracts. I'm just you know on this ankle monitor. So when I get off, which is in September, it's on.
SPEAKER_02Okay, and also congratulations in advance when that happened for you. Okay, yeah. Um, so I got I got another question first, like a two-part question. So my question is when you was doing your thing, how long was your run of getting money? And then the part two question that is how did you what what was the moments? Okay, how did you like how they walk us to the moments when they when they finally caught to you when you was on a run and it was like over at that time?
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah. So I was I had a good run, probably like a 10-year run. The best they try to say they was on me for um they was they say they was they got on me in 2005, but if they would have got on me in 2005, they would have got me in 2005. I didn't get indicted till 2009 or whatever, but so they say that I was still hustling on the run, whatever. So, with that being said, I got caught up in 2014. They say they've been investigating me since 20 um 2005, so nine, 10 years. I basically was getting down, and when I was getting down, that's how I was able to survive. Yeah, that's what the feds say. So I'm going with that. I took the time for it. You feel me? I did the time for it, so that's what they said. That that's how long I was getting down, right? Okay, and basically when I was on a run, it was just weird because I felt everything closing in on me. I like was on a run from Vegas, Chicago, Louisiana. I stayed in all them different places, but like I said, it was people who was close to me who got them to get to get me. That's how I got captured, you know, coming back to see my kids for Easter and was just set up with a phone tap, a wiretap phone call, and that's how they moved in on me. And it was weird because that year, which was 2014, I did feel like something was about to happen, like I was gonna get caught up. I actually was tired, I really wanted to just turn myself in because like family was turning, you know, everybody was just money hungry, it was all about the money in 2013. So about time 2014 came, I was just like, Okay, my kid's father, he was um, they got him first. So, shout out to Chuck, aka show, you know, he came in here. Yeah, so he went down first in 2008, and he was on his way home in 2016. So I'm thinking, like, it's 14. If I could just last two more years, and if I last, I'm gonna walk myself in because it was just so hot and so hectic, and people were just so thirsty. Like my partner, who basically supposed to be a so-called partner, you know, who helped me be on the lamb, she set me up to be Rob here. She had people in the house, you so it was just like a lot going on, and I'm just like, Hey, it's wicked out here. Like, I didn't even really feel safe no more. I really wanted to just get it over and start start my time, just get the shit over with because it was just getting too hectic.
SPEAKER_02What's what's crazy is, and and I never been in a situation like that, but uh, but you know, when you're not in that situation, you always be coaching people, like I do this, I do that, I'll do this. I'll do that, I'll do this, and that I always wonder when people getting so much money and they got so many connections and this, that, a third. Why y'all don't go overseas and just go overseas?
SPEAKER_03Like we probably go overseas, like to Mexico or over to Africa. But I was just like, if I'm on a run, I want to see my kids. That's too far. I want to still be able to get on a road myself or have somebody drive me, or you know, I wanted to be able to get on the jet if I had to to get to my kids. And I just felt like being in the States would be easier for me to have access because to me, I felt like being on a run. That's kind of like why I went on a run to keep building my relationship with my kids because my younger boy, he was like young when everything happened, five or six. So I'm thinking if I could stay out till he likes nine and ten till his dad get home, at least one of the parents to be home with them. But I had options to go over there. They told me all I need is 400, 500,000 to live like a boss, a queen over there. But then when I thought about it, they was like, also, you're gonna need bodyguards though in Mexico. And I'm like, Oh no, I can't. And then I was just worried about like how I'm gonna be able to survive with like taking care of myself too as a woman over there. Now, if I went to another, you know, country. I mean, now I gotta depend on new people, gain they trust, or they had to gain my trust. And I don't know, I just felt like I would be a target for real for in another country, or just depending on people I really didn't know who said and you were still a mom, so like I could even chime in on that.
SPEAKER_00Would you remember when I was not on the run, but I was on you feel me? I my wife was pregnant. You feel me? I'm saying, I'm like, I want to see my baby born. It's like I could have been like, I'm out, right? But it's so much stuff you abandon it, and then if you making money, you ain't trying to abandon a hustle either. That's one thing. The movies be real when they got people on caper, right? And then the one more sent your ass to jail. You feel me?
SPEAKER_03So it's like but I really didn't have no attention on going on the run because I was fighting my case for 27 months, but then when everything just started happening, when I went in, my son he was having issues and he was not wanting to stay with his father, and then they gave me six weeks. And when I went in for census and they gave me six more weeks to get that situated, you know, together. And that's when I decided, like, okay, let me see if they're gonna put it off. Because at first they was putting it off. But when I called my attorney, she like, Oh, they don't believe nothing you say because your crime got everything to do with phones and credit cards. I can't tell them because I had an anxiety attack. I went to the hospital, I had the paperwork and everything, but then they just didn't believe it. So I was like, Oh, I got a warrant. She was like, Yeah, you need to come down here right now. I'm like, I'm not going nowhere with a warrant because that day after the six weeks, I didn't show up for court because I actually went to the hospital to the emergency room. But it's like my attorney, I paid her 25,000. She started acting like the feds working, like, oh, I need to come pick you up. You need to go down. I'm like, I'm not going nowhere at four o'clock with no more. I already know they're gonna keep me. Give me back on calendar, I'm gonna come in and get on the calendar and go to court tomorrow. She was like, No, I can't do that. And I was just like, at that point, it threw the phone out the window, like, hey, I'm out of here.
SPEAKER_02She's ass.
SPEAKER_03So I really didn't have it planned out to be on the run. Because if I would have had it planned out, it would have been planned to the T. Like, I would have been gone.
SPEAKER_00I don't think nobody actually planned for it, but if you can plan for it, there's so many reasons still not to do it, especially if you got something to lose. Now, hindsight to me, hindsight is 2020. Uh, you did a lot of time, I did some time too. I I mean, if you would have gone on the run, you eventually probably would have got caught anyway, right? I mean, the only motherfucker we see that existed was what Asada Shakur. She was on a run all the way until she died, right?
SPEAKER_03But it's rare that people still run for I was on a run for two and a half years, even though it didn't seem that long because it was going by fast. And I was able to enjoy time with my kids still, you know. But I mean, was it worth it? No, it was not worth it. But like I said, I didn't plan to be on a run, it just so happened. Happen to happen like that. So that's why I was still in the States and still bold enough to come back to California because I should have never been coming back out here. Like I said, I got caught up seeing my kids for Easter, knowing I'm supposed to be out here. I was right there down the street from where I was addicted at Sacramento. I was 45 minutes away in Fairfield. So and then I still was dealing with people who I know that they could contact to get me caught up. You know, they could have like how they got on them and them led them to me. I just didn't care. Like long as I wasn't getting caught, I didn't care. I was just doing me, still outside doing me, living my life like I wasn't on the run.
SPEAKER_00Anyone got a question for uh Anisha in the chat? Chime in. I see you, Lito. Thank God it's Friday. You motherfucking right, thank God it's Friday. Every day's a Friday, man. Anybody got a question for Nish? Leto, I know you got one. Chime in, right? Hey, what what I do wanna what I do want you to dose us with, we was gonna save it, right? We need that crazy penitentiary story. Because my my my nigga, my my my my co-host, he don't really be knowing how that shit really rocked, right? Because he's been able to win with his whole life. Don't don't let the smooth, don't let the bus fool you though. You know what I'm saying? He done does his dirt. I'm just saying, right? We need one of them crazy penitentiary stories, man.
SPEAKER_03So with the feds, it's like female prison, it's really not too much going on. It's just a lot of hustling and a lot of diking. Girls on girl situation. It's not really no gangster shit going on, like ain't no game banging. People might be clicked up, but ain't no like beef on a yard like that, unless you fuck with somebody chick. So that's where all the drama comes in at. If you fucking with somebody chick, if you trying to take somebody clientele because they selling K2 or they selling some oxen or whatever they selling or whatever, so it's just wow, it's just like a freak off or a freak nick in that motherfucker. Like tonight is Friday, you know. Girls on girls going, Wow, that shit is real, like in a women's prison. Like everybody fucking everybody, they making dildos, they selling dildos, they getting high, and they always looking for somebody to be their.
SPEAKER_00You know, you know what everybody wants to know. You know what they want to know, they want to know if you was down.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm strictly Diggly. Um, but I have bitches who will holler at me. I have bitches buying me canteen. You feel me? Because they was just on me, like, oh, you cool. I have bitches over protected.
SPEAKER_01Oh, but I get it.
SPEAKER_03What you say? What you say? They already knew I wasn't getting down, I wasn't getting down.
SPEAKER_02But hold on. What that nigga, what you just say, bro. I said, I would have bought a canteen too. I get it.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. So, you know, and I'm still what you want, uh yeah. So they they knew my favorite candies or my favorite chips or my favorite snack, and they'll look out. Like they always knew I wanted to stack up because sometimes the stores would be low and running out of shit. So they knew I would buy 10 candy bars or just say a next fleet um crunch or a cookies and cream bar, and then buy me 10 and be like, I got this for you, and this is that. But it was a lot of OGs and young chicks trying to holler at me. And I'm like, I don't even get down. Y'all crazy, but they like, I bet you I could make you turn um not be straight no more. I make I make you turn gay, but I'm like, no. But I mean, I could see why they thought that because a lot of women in prison do turn gay or was already and try to act like they wasn't and just got turned out, is because I feel um they don't have no support when just once you get in there and you get 10, 20, 30 years, there's a lot of females in there got boot coutons, especially like Spanish chicks who got 30 years or whatever, and they love the black chicks, the black studs they call it or whatever. I used to be like, Oh, y'all dykes, they don't like that word dike. I guess that's an old word. They like they the stud, they the men, and they cater to them as in buying stuff for them. So if you don't have no money coming in, your family, it's like out of sight, out of mind for real. Like, and then a lot of Spanish chicks they send money back home. They really they they go hard. Shout out to the Spanish because they go hard, they wash clothes, they cook, they work a job. You feel me? They are they gonna get them some break.
SPEAKER_00That's what I that's what I want to talk to you about. Because, like, in the men's prison, no matter where you at the Mexicans go crazy in a sense of militant, they on that gang shit, they can't affiliate with certain shit, they can't be on no fat, like no homosexual shit. With the the women, they wasn't like it wasn't no Mexican mafia, no Nuestra familia, wasn't no like wasn't no militant agents, like they might say it was a quartel chick on a yard, but it was mostly like she just had everything, whatever you feel me.
SPEAKER_03She just had it her way, or whatever. So she might be the main chick of one of the black studs, and she probably everything going through her, but she let him push it, the stud girl, or whatever, and then he might have other little chicks working for them and bringing all the shit, the money back to them. But it wasn't nothing like that.
SPEAKER_00You got a question. You got a question though, too. My nigga Lito actually said, What did you do the past time when you were sitting down?
SPEAKER_03Um, I did um I learned how to draw, so I started drawing, designing clothes for my clothing brand. Um, I read a lot of self-help books. Um, like I said, I put together a lot of um battles, like rap rap battles, um people singing. Everybody, I just had this one partner who came in there and I couldn't believe she was in there. And I'm like, what you doing in here? Because I haven't saw her like in over six years. And she was like, she was in there for some shit with her guys. She got caught up or whatever. And she was a chick that I used to get money with, and she was really young, and then she just broke down when she saw me. She was scared to say something to me because she was just like, I didn't know what happened to you. Like, so she had somebody get at me, like, is that Nisha? They like, yeah. She was like, Can y'all tell Nisha I'm over here? She didn't even want to approach you, but she haven't seen me how long. But I met her when she was like 16, but now she's 22 and she's like, What happened when we meet? She just like broke down crying. Like, my life really changed. Like when you left, you know, I started drinking a lot. I I started being in the strip club, like, because we was get like I said, we was getting to the bag, and she was a young bitch getting to the bag, you feel me? And she was just like she was used to that lifestyle, and it kind of fucked her up that I disappeared. But like I told her, I want to run, I didn't want you to be a part of that, so I distanced myself from you so to make sure you wouldn't get caught up in the web of what I had going on with you know the feds on me or whatever, and so happened. She just like she spit poetry. I'm telling her about rapping, I'm looking for an artist, and then I was trying to make her my first artist, and she started like spin poetry. We started writing raps together, and that just brought the yard, you know, like I said, the studs, it was a lot of talent in there. Everybody started coming together and just want to battle rap on the yard. So that was really my thing. I really didn't work. I would go outside at eight in the morning to the wreck, uh, run a track, do um lunges around that track, and then after that, I'll just be looking for talent because I'm like, Hey, I'm about to come home and be a CEO, you know, I'm about to get some money again to the rap game. And then I start talking to my son because my son, he's also doing time, he's in state prison, whatever. So I'm telling him what I'm trying to do. And he like, oh, for real, he's like, Hey, I'll be wrapping up in here. I'm like, What? You be rapping. I was like, nigga, please. So I'm reading books, um, like magazines, the double XLs, the um Kite magazine, which is a known rap magazine. So I'm looking at the story of like JT and Young Miami. You feel me? The city girls, like, oh, they start doing all this, and they were just playing with it, they was going to the club, it was just supposed to be like a club thing, performing in a club. But now they got 200 some strings. If you get this many streams, you get paid. So I'm telling my son, like, hey, you need to get on it. And then all of a sudden, he was on his and I still was on my shell on the yard. But when everybody leave prison, they're not really on that, you know. That's like a dream because they can't see where they can really profit off that, you know. Everybody come home trying to do the right thing, get a job, you know, to satisfy their stipulations with their parole or probation officer or whatever. But I kept my time going just by working out, reading self-help books, and pushing the line like I was really a CEO in there doing no working out, but cut it out.
SPEAKER_00You can do a no working out in there, motherfucker. Don't try to throw the don't try to do the working out shit up.
SPEAKER_03You say hey you had no yard to mess with me. I could do the lunges 275 lunges around the track, it takes me 25 minutes. If I stopped for like 30 days, it'd take me my 35 minutes. But nobody and I was in Aliceville Federal Prison in Aliceville, Alabama. Nobody could hit that track when it came to the lunges. They might come the track, but when you're hitting them lunges all the way around the track, straight, I was the queen of that.
SPEAKER_00You ain't trying to throw that shit in by talking about you feel me. I'm saying, shout out to Jada K.
SPEAKER_03I designed close. I got so many designs and worked on my um vision board and just read books. As long as I was able to communicate and talk to my son and have video business with him, that's how I made my time go by, just like building my dream.
SPEAKER_02So so then my next question for you is so you said you read books. Uh put the magazines to the side. What's the best book you read while you was behind bars?
SPEAKER_03Um Rich Dad, Poor Dad. And he had a couple more books, like with Donald Trump, and then also it was the Ford story. How they um the car for I forgot the name of the book, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that book elevate my thinking, what you know, how to start a business, how to keep going, how to stay consistent, no matter what. Like they didn't believe that you can make a car, you know, do this and do that. But the Ford, he was like the Ford man, what was his name? Henry Henry Ford, I think it was and he was on it, like so them books right there, and then also, you know, like I gotta give shout out to um, you know, Jay Prince. I read his book. I read that book several times. I like the how he was moving and how he was a part of uh you know what Florida Mayweather had going on, and you know, does it with Lil Wayne and the industry with the rap industry and the box entertainment industry or whatever it's in there off Urban's?
SPEAKER_00You weren't just reading off hella urban.
SPEAKER_03No, I read that you weren't reading Z. I started off reading Urban, and then I upgraded. It was like, nah, then I start trying to write my own Urban because I'm like, Hey, let me write an Urban from here.
SPEAKER_00Everybody, when you first either when you go to the hole, the Urban's be like all the herbs. The herbs be like TV when you're the hoes. You like nigga, this is all I got. But I you do your first couple of years, you'd be like, Man, I'm the herbs, all of them in the same nigga died three times, there's five parts to it, everybody balled, the police never came. You know what I'm saying? So when we get tired of the herbist, right? We got a comment from Leto too. He said, When I did a year in Rita, it was niggas saying they can't wait to get to the pen. It's time easier in the pen.
SPEAKER_03Um it's more, it's more um freedom, so it's more um things you could do. Yeah, the pen, I would pick the state pen over the federal pen any day. The fed the feds, they telling up in there. Like I said, you either fucking with somebody, being a bitch hustling for them, or bitches just telling because they just hey for no reason. And me and you could get in an argument and they could write us up and we go to the shoe for just arguing. Or I could just tell that all that room got something in there, some pills or some K2 in there, and you just go to the hole under investigation. You feel me? But yeah, from the county, hell yeah, the pen all day because I did time in Valley State Prison back in 2004 or whatever, and it's more freedom, like, and it's more programs, and it's more things that you could do with your time.
SPEAKER_00Can you say come uh comparable? Especially the Feds order pen is better than Rita, better than county jail.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, anything's better than Rita and Sacramento, Rita County jail, right? Yeah, even though I know they got established and all that now, but it's like you can move around outside, you know, them places you can't really go outside like that, and I and I and I and we we we cutting it kind of close to time because I know you got a goat too, right?
SPEAKER_00We do appreciate it, but I do want to I want a couple of shout-outs for you. Uh all your all your pin girls, you know. I'm saying you got uh bone, yeah, all my beauties, all my b rich beauty knows and a shout out, shout out your boys, shout out your boys.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I just want to give shout out. I ain't gonna really say names, it's gonna be too many, but I want to give a shout out to all my prison nieces, all my homeboys, my son, Jada K, Jamal Douglas that's in um Folsom State Prison. And I just want to tell y'all, you know, keep doing your thing, keep moving and working and shaking towards your goals and y'all dreams because you got to come out here with a plan. You don't just be up in there getting high, waste of time hustling, um, just on the phone, just because you're able to get access to a phone, you know, really work on your shit so you could come home.
SPEAKER_00Stay off that K2, stay off that shit that makes you lose today, lose your motherfucker.
SPEAKER_03That K2 will make you lose your mind, and you will be up and you might don't come back. So stay far away from that K2 because that K2 had us locked down a lot. Like that shit was flooded in the prison, and that shit had people going crazy.
SPEAKER_00Anybody in the chat got any questions? Good, you got it. You got any what you want to drop some on us before we go. Anybody in the chat got any questions? Drop some comments before we go.
SPEAKER_02And also, I got a I got a question for you because I think they also want to know. I want to know this too. But the chat want to know, are you single?
SPEAKER_03Am I single? Yes, I'm single, ready to mingle.
SPEAKER_02No, hey AC, ready to mingle.
SPEAKER_03But I'm really focused on my life goals, though. I'm really yes, I'm focused on my life goals, so I'm putting all that time and effort into building my brand and building myself back up because you know I was gone for a long time, but I love the network. Okay, so if you're about business, you got a business venture, you feel me?
SPEAKER_00Tab in label. I mean yeah, that means tap in if you're about your shit. You feel me? Anybody got anything else, man? First you get up out of here. I see Leto. I appreciate the chat. We was about eight nine deep. We're gonna share the live.
SPEAKER_03Thank you, everybody, for since all the support. Yeah, it'd be to be continue more coming soon.
SPEAKER_00Subscribe and follow Nisha. We're gonna let her go. We're gonna, if y'all gonna stay with us, me and my boy gonna shout it up for a minute. Subscribe, yeah. I'm saying, uh to Nisha Jackson, Bay Rich Beauty, Bay Rich Babe on Instagram and TikTok. Um, I don't know where else you better go. Where else? YouTube. Oh, yeah, you too. Yeah, I'm saying we appreciate you. Yeah, I'm saying you was active. Oh, oh, one more thing. What I don't know what it's gonna be called yet, but uh I heard through the grapevine that you're supposed to be having a new show that you develop it. You don't know your co-host gonna be yet, uh, via Frequency 99, you know, the media on because we was talking about global and how we got motion. You want to speak on that real quick before you go about your your development show?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so I'm trying to develop a show. I'm actually gonna do a casting call because I'm looking for somebody that's you know in their 20s or 30s to be a co-host with me, you know, to get it popping, just you know, get this new business venture out there. Um, also my clothing brand I'll be online selling, you know, boutique clothes and custom made clothes soon. So make sure y'all tune in, tap in, you know, and help me just expand my brand, the Be Rich Beauty Brand BRB.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, man. We appreciate you. You know what I'm saying? Are we going to head out? You know what I'm saying? We send our love, you know what I'm saying, to the chat, and we send our letter Nisha Jackson. Man, we appreciate you showing up the first guest we got motion. You feel me? The first one. We see how we got some of the coming. I'll put in fire emojis, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we're gonna send you more whatever you need. You always are welcome, guest on here, right? So uh we're gonna uh go in and enjoy your damn work.
SPEAKER_03Okay, have a nice day. I guess in the bag, all legit business, you know.
SPEAKER_00You know it. Look at me, look at me's hella late. Tomo, hey, look, I can finally comment on this. Means get it together, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Yes, for real. Tell him to still send a comment. Do he have any questions for me?
SPEAKER_00You trying to chime in on since you in there now. They can tell me I can finally comment. Nigga could have been commenting. You already know. We need it, we need it. You know what I'm saying? This motherfucker AD, man. Let's rock, man. He probably typed, he probably typed hella slow. I did want to ask some current event shit, but I'm gonna wait. I'll wait till next time you come to the thing. You always welcome guests over here anyway. Whenever you want to tap in, if you got some shit you just want to say, or some promo you want to drop off, you know what I'm saying? Just tap in, man. It's good. And plus, you can be extended calls if one of us absolutely could jump on, plus you can show some of your skills. Maybe we need to put you in the casting call so we can make sure you know what the fuck you're doing.
SPEAKER_01For sure, for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_00This means question right there. Read look, read that. That's me's question. You see it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, thank you. He said, I got a beautiful and bright smile. Thank you, Mies.
SPEAKER_00Look, look, it we need it, though. We need it. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_03Positivity, the positivity.
SPEAKER_00That is me. That is real, though. But I'll go ahead and show your thing.
SPEAKER_03I can go to work and smile all day to the kids. Be like, hey, y'all.
SPEAKER_00All right, but we appreciate you. Have a good one, niche.
SPEAKER_03Okay, bye y'all. Have a good day.
SPEAKER_00See you later. Hey, that was a good, that was a good first guess. I feel like I feel like that kind of went dope. You feel me? I'm I'm I'm I'm the chat. Yeah, I'm saying, I don't know if y'all were just here for niche. Hope y'all stay with us. We're gonna talk about five minutes. My nigga, we gonna first we're gonna ride on this nigga right here. That's the first thing we're gonna do. We're gonna ride on this nigga right here, man. That put the goals in, you feel me? Make sure the lineup was straight out the fluff song.
SPEAKER_02Look, man, look, man. I had I had to come correct, man, for this lady, man. Look, man, uh we got motion, man. Let's listen. If we we we need to develop the for the love of niche TV show, I'm I'm gonna go part of the casting just because I ain't gonna win, but I'm gonna go a part of it anyway. And try and try to, you know, because she's single rate of evil, man.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna make it happen. No, bro. That's cool, though. Man, look, and then and speaking of which, just so we understand, but we do got some news, you know what I'm saying? We got some people that's gonna be signing to the mob, to the label. We got some other shit going on with the media on it. We about to expand. Speaking of casting calls was a good idea, right? That was a good idea because I wasn't really thinking about that. The casting call for not only that show, but for future endeavors. Uh uh for people that's trying to join uh art network, you know what I'm saying? That might be kind of a good idea. But probably the casting call should go like on a live. I think that'll be dope.
SPEAKER_02That that that'll be super dope. Uh, and and what um and I'm gonna say this too, because you because you know you you're my partner in crime, and we talk about everything, but I'm I'm gonna say this exclusively because you don't even know this. Oh shit. Not only is Frequency 99 uh a uh a uh a future media network of just of content creators doing their thing, we also gonna turn this to an app. By next year, it's gonna be an app. Breaking those it's gonna be an app, you know, similar to you know, like a Zeus with our own spin on it, to where we're gonna have uh all great content creators, all shows, uh, subscription based, but just everybody displaying their talents and not having to always focus on. I love all the platforms, I love the YouTubes, I love the Instagrams, I love the Till, I love all of them, but at the same time, we also just appreciate ownership. Ownership is very important. So we also need ours because if this if all these platforms go down, then what we got about there? We gotta have our own. So Frequency 99 app will be coming soon.
SPEAKER_00So okay, man. That's breaking news. You feel me? I'm saying that's what I'm talking about, man. Let me know that you're working behind the scenes, bro. Man, let me know that the burden is on your back. I ain't trying to lose no more percent, man. I'm out here working. Y'all don't even know the type of shit. So all the to anybody out there that bulks at contracts, you have no idea the contract that we got just to make this shit rock. You feel me, I'm saying, right? We got shit up there. What's like we got like a compete, we we we can a little team. We need it. You feel me? Like, motherfuckers don't understand that we are competing with each other, but not in a negative way. It's more like we're trying to who work the hardest. So anybody that's coming to the network, just know that, man. Yo, work, you you get you, you we get to the bag, but you get more accolades the harder you work. Shout out to anybody. I tell my artists, I tell anybody that I fuck with, whether they whether they're with the movement or not, man. The harder you work, man, the the the more it's gonna pay off in the end. It might pay off immediate. You feel me? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And we we in it, we in this to the winners, man. Like just learning from all the great places, learning from the death rows, learning from the no limits, learn from the QCs, learning from the rap a lot, learn from all these people, learn from the Rockefellers, learn from all these places, learn from the cash money's taking all what they did good, removing all of what they did bad, whether if they knew on purpose or if they just didn't know because of lack of knowledge, and we're about to make this rock, right?
SPEAKER_00And that's why really it's important for the for the ground level associates, right? Uh, that can end up end up really being shareholders, right? You know what I'm saying? Right, it's important for the ground floor associates to like get in with why why while it's good because in real life, right? Once you start getting uh uh once once the motion really starts really getting to where we envision it, it ain't really gonna be nobody to be able to get in like that. It's really gonna be like members only. Yeah, I'm saying only people we're gonna be doing business with is on straight business. All the associates and affiliates, you feel me? I'm saying that's why it's important. Let's let the ink dry. Let's get it together, man. Like I'm and I'm telling you, we're gonna look back at this shit one day. We're gonna look at the banner back there, the hatch back there. We're gonna be like, hey, bruh, remember we was fucking with it like that. We was like, what the fuck was we doing? Is we really building something right now. And when you really building something, you you think we think we doing it right now. But once we in that studio, you know what I'm saying, looking. Back, you feel me? Gonna be like, Hey, remember when we started right here, we was just on a laptop and the phone. Telling you, bro, it's real. Yeah, that's a fact.
SPEAKER_02That's if we build something special.
SPEAKER_00Is it any current event we want to wanna hit with it was something I feel like it was something we was talking about that we need to make up?
SPEAKER_02I'll be honest, man. This this covet 2.0, my nigga. Oh, yeah, for sure. They tripping, bro. They tripping. Like it's my my daughter comes, dad. Did you know it was four people who died on a cruise ship? She she watched, she watched it on TikTok. I said, I'm like, it's gonna be like the last time with the pandemic. I'm like, man, we gotta we gotta stay safe, stay protected, man. Everybody needs to hey, I know they it it's a real thing out there mixed in with a lot of fear mongering. But at the end of the day, if we stay prepared and you you stay ready, you ain't gotta get ready, man. Man, keep wash your hands, man. Look, push your mask on, whatever you gotta do, man. Because it's it's about to get real out here.
SPEAKER_00And you seen me today, bro. You know what I'm saying? Because you know me, I I've sliding, but I've been I've been trying to save money on gas, so I've been trying to bounce on that board to try to get from point A to point B. When I'm with the schoolhouse, and just you feel plus, I feel like a ninja on a board, but like even on there, it's like I'm trying to cut a corner, but you know, you grabbing the rails and shit. So I had the rubber glove up today, and and I but you gotta understand when COVID first hit, bro. Like before it hit, I was uh I on my new Global Mob page. I had seen a post and it was a bat in soup, and it was calling a bat soup, and it was talking about coronavirus before I even knew what the hell it was, right? But I was reading about it, it was talking about how they contagious. I was at a gas station with gloves and a mask on, and I was like, You were trying to fall you on and this is in December. They shut it down that January, February. You feel me? I'm saying, right? So now I'm only I'm on a board again. I'm seeing a couple of the Asians, the Asians be ready. The Asians stay with their shit on, right? You feel me? I'm saying, at least out here. So I'm like, man, that I'm going back to my OCD ways because I this shit is real, and not only that, they say this was supposed to be vicious because it's trans. This one ain't supposed to be transmitted from animal to human.
SPEAKER_02I know the fact that you can uh a rat can come by you, pee, dip off, and you can breathe it in through the air, and you can die.
SPEAKER_00And they did the same thing. Listen, this is what I mean, real quick before we go. This is how you know it's the matrix, and this is how you know most things are it uh whether it's simulation, whether it's a science, whether life is real, fake, the earth was flat around, if it's universe, whatever, right? History repeats itself, usually it takes like a hundred years, 20 years. Listen, at least in the bay, when it when it when it transmitted from overseas, went on a plane, went on a boat, went on a train. The whole thing is when you quarantine something, right? It should stay contained where it's at. You ain't supposed to let nobody travel. This shit started on a boat. A couple people, an old dude died on the boat, they let Letty go get on a plane, right? You know what I'm saying? Let her go get on a plane with the body. You know what I'm saying? She's supposed to drop there in the airport. With this, it's on a boat. And Frisco, what they did in Frisco, they let a boat come. It wasn't even in the bay yet. It was the COVID wasn't even in the bay. They let the boat come in the bay. Instead of them quarantining to the boat and sending the doctors over there, they took people off the boat, put them in the hospital, and next thing you know, we was on lockdown, it spread like wildfire, right? This is a reincarnation of the same thing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So instead of you just keeping it quarantined over there, that's how you know all this shit is by design, bro. That's how you know it's by design, man. You feel me? So just do your due diligence, uh, stay healthy. You might want to uh that our the irony of covet was that's when DoorDash got hella popular, but it was always funny to me because I was doing postmas at the time. It was always funny to me that people was getting DoorDash, but we was supposed to be you supposed to be scared of germs like that, but you let the stranger bring the food to your door, and and and you let the stranger make your food, and then another stranger bring your food, right? Right, it comes it comes from two men that cook that cook, right? Ain't nothing like a home cooked meal, even when there ain't a pandemic going on. Come on, man, come on, man. You know what I'm saying? So cut the Nicky D's out, wash your hands two or three times, stop shaking, go back to the elbow. That's how I'm putting I hit a bow with the elbow. Go back to the elbow, man. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02Listen, I was at I was at my daughter's school today and gave and gave the principal the elbow. I was like, You're good looking, man. Bye!
SPEAKER_00Like what's over with that's oh, that's another thing. Oh, with the school with the with the online learning. Oh my god, man. They said it was like turn all the parents into homeschool teachers for free. Everybody was horrible.
SPEAKER_02I can't say bro. The only reason the only reason it was good for me is because I homeschooled my kids the first four years of their life, and then they went to public school, and then covet happened, and they went back to homeschool. I said, What the? If I would have known that, I would have never had I would have never homeschooled job.
SPEAKER_00Look, man, we're gonna we're gonna tap in and look one thing about we got motion, y'all should know. Little little uh program know every Friday we tap in no matter what. It might be early morning, it might be afternoon, but Friday for sure is the day. But because we got true motion and shit is going on every day, not just in the media world, but in our own lives with topics, discussions, thoughts, ideas, right? We might just get on this motherfucker and talk about music and marketing. We might get on ranting about what's going on in politics. We tap on whenever we feel like it, right? So that means anybody that's trying to be a special guest, any artist that we mess with, anybody that we got online, we might tap in you. It might be one o'clock in the morning, but hey, bro, you trying to jump on the line? We're doing it. We have no set schedule. We rocking two, three times a week. We might rock seven days a week, depending on what we feel like, because we truly got motion. We do appreciate the chat. Y'all was active today, y'all was live. We let the comments, we let the support. Please like, comment, subscribe on everything we got. We got motion, PWG and me, Frequency 99. We got free but not free. We got Nisha Jackson, uh, and we got a bunch of Facebooks and Instagrams. We got TikToks, we got we everywhere, man. You can find us anywhere and everywhere. Tap in, man. You know what I'm saying? Would man go ahead and send us out, Wood.
SPEAKER_02Hey man, look, man, I I appreciate all y'all, man, for watching. We'll be back maybe today, maybe tomorrow. Hey, this Cal Woodman. Uh, man, one half of Frequency 99, man, the other half of we got motion of the podcast. Uh Kyle Wood marketing, man, one of the best marketers in the motherfucking world.
SPEAKER_00You feel me? I'm tapping. Hey, man, global man. It's good, man. We out, man. Tap in. You already know what to do, it's the mouth. Appreciate y'all.