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We Got Motion Podcast With P-Dub & CalWood Episode 13
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Great episode where Cal & Dub speak on sports, politics and the state of all things media driven.
Go live. We are live, man. We got motion, man. It feels like it's been a long time, but it's only been a couple of days, man. This episode is brought to you by smearing off ice, even though it's really not. One day we will get there. But at the end of the day, it's hot as hell out here in California. I have no out here in a bay. I'm pretty sure it's hot in LA and everywhere. I have no idea what the weather is like out there, but I'm talking about the last two, three days, bro. It's been a scorcher. But welcome to we got motion. We appreciate you tapping in and tuning up turning up with us. You feel me? I'm so we share the live. You get it, like and subscribe. What's up, my brother, man? What's up with wood, man?
SPEAKER_00What's good, man? It's uh Cowwood, man. One half week motion frequency 99 is the umbrella. Jimmy's the shooters, man. How you feeling, man? Besides you being hot over there, because I ain't hot over here. It's hot outside, but I I'm I'm feeling nice and cool where I'm at, man. You know, we know we're in an undisclosed location. It's just cool over here, man. Are you talking about it's cool inside?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, HQ, yeah, I'm saying that the headquarters where I'm at, man. I'm talking about bruh. If you don't lining up right, it's is hot. Let me turn this on right here, too, because I'll be liking a Simon Cast where we at. But uh just so we understand, we had a special guest, uh cover boy TTG. Uh prayers out to your family, whatever you got going on. Yeah, I'm saying wake up with your business out there. But uh, hopefully you get to catch up to us, and um, we want to talk about your clothing line. I ain't gonna lie to you, I'm trying to be a brand ambassador. I looked at your link. I look dope to me, man. I really want to have a conversation with you. We see how I go tomorrow. We got an episode two. We'll figure it out, man. But uh, sometimes, man, when a guest we have when you have guests, the show must go on. You gotta make it rock no matter what. Uh, because at the end of the day, rain, sleep, hell, snow, man. We got emotion gonna go. And that's just the way it is. Let me see if I can uh share the live. Let me share the live.
SPEAKER_00Let me share the live. All right, messing. We're about to share in the live. Let me get to that first topic. Where are we gonna start with?
unknownWe're about to share the live.
SPEAKER_01Oh, the first topic? Oh, we're gonna talk about the Knicks. Let's jump into the Knicks. We're gonna jump into sports first. Yeah, I'm saying we're gonna jump into sports. I mean, what you feeling about that? What you feeling about the Knicks, man?
SPEAKER_00I just go about it. I'm p I I'm pissed off because I'm tired of Wimby fucking up my parlay. Like, they blew a 29-point lead and basically let the Knicks have the most incredible comebacks in NBA history. I'm pissed off about it, man. I ain't gonna lie. But still, look, even though I'm pissed off, Spurs and seven. I'm doubling down. I thought you were going with the Knicks. No, I won't go with no Knicks. We're going with Wimby, man. Wimby, what with the Mux, man?
SPEAKER_01Well, that's whatever. Whatever, whatever lies, why you losing your money?
SPEAKER_00That's okay. Wimby gonna get Wimby gotta win three games. They're gonna do it. I'm still doing Spurs and seven. What's up?
SPEAKER_01Nah, I mean, we could we could we could put a little friendly wager on if you want to. I think. Did we already put a friendly wage? If we didn't, I mean that's over here, bro. I don't think they already stole two at home. Three-one.
SPEAKER_00I don't think the the alien gotta go talk to the monks again. He gotta get on his private jet, go holler at the monks, man. Tap in, man. He the airbender, man. He's gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01You know, I don't know about that, bro. I think this, right? I think that the other series with Chip Chip was a different animal, uh, less of an animal, uh, for Wimby. So he's able to have his way on that European kind of level, right? I think Carl Anthony Channels, even though Carl Anthony Towns, to me, historically has been soft, um, super soft, yeah, exactly. Like real zest, zest, z, zestacular, right? You know what I'm saying? But uh Carl Anthony Towns will have his way, like with him, you know what I'm saying? Even though he ain't been scoring like that, I think it's more like his aggression, um, and like rebound and stuff like that. But um, and um Brunson put on the show, but OG Ana Nobi, he's gonna go down as one of the I'm talking one of them nicks that they love. I do want to say something though that I didn't like the fans out there in New York beating up San Antonio fans for jerseys and stuff. I don't like that, bro.
SPEAKER_00That they wild, bro. They they wildin', bro. Like they they are some of the most the diehard delusional fans that I've ever seen. A lot I I never thought it could be worse fans than the cowboys.
SPEAKER_01I think they're about the same level, I think they're the same level.
SPEAKER_00You hear K Cameron going with the Spurs, too. Cameron said and why stands for next year.
SPEAKER_01So I know what it was. No, what it is with him, he's uh skeptical because, like a Raider fan. Hey, what's going on? Well, like a Raider fan, right? Like a Raider fan, you know, you can never be too careful, you never can be too careful. Every year it's our year, it's our year, right? Same thing with the cowboys. I think he's more so like uh oh, what's up, my boy Wink? Man, I see you, bro. Wink, whenever you want to tap on, it's good. You know what I'm saying? Whenever you want to tap in, just tap in. Tap in, it's good, right? You feel me? When I told you all the fellas, all the family, y'all can tap in whenever you want. You feel me? I'm saying I thought they was out of there, too. I ain't gonna lie, but that comeback was was what it was. I think Cameron, I think all the cameron stuff is almost like a great segue because we just don't talk about Cameron anyway. Cameron is more so like cautious, bro. Cautiously optimistic, and I think like remember, like, was that last year and the year before that, but for sure last year, you already know, bro. It looked like they was gonna do something, they didn't do nothing, you know what I'm saying? And um, you know, when you said when you're a fan like me, like of the Raiders and shit, like that, bro. Every year you think it's show year, you know, every year you think it's show year, bro. And uh the Knicks are one of those teams and our lifetime, meaning you know you had the LJ era, you had the uh the Carmelo era, even though the LJ era they actually went to the finals. You had the Patrick Ewing era, that's bro, and when they get there, bro, it don't happen. So you know that's over.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that's a fact. So I'm I'm still going with the Spurs, man. Uh, you know, as delusional as I may sound, I'm going with the Spurs. They Spurs definitely winning the next game, so I'm gonna win my money back that I lost last two games for sure.
SPEAKER_01I don't think I don't I think that I don't think what's up, my nigga Leto, man. I don't think um you know say dirty dirties, man. To the dubs, man. You already know this is what we do. Um, I think that at the end of the day, bruh, I think that you damn near should have bet me too, so I get some of that money because I've been kind of hurting lately. You feel me? I'm saying, and as I told you, this episode is brought to you by smearing off ice or uh Mike's Hard Limited. The first one was smearing off by Mike's Hard. You feel me? Pause. Well, we pause at the same time. Mike's hard. You feel me? I'm saying what's up, what's up, a little bro? Man, I see you feel me. Look, who is that talking about the city went crazy? The city be going too crazy, bro. I ain't gonna lie, I'm not really with the and I'm I'm a writer fan, and then you know the nine is right across the water. Sometimes, bro, the raiders, we lost some shit before the worst off when it go up like that. Okay, because you just but when you just see somebody church, the new york dudes, they was too aggressive. I I wouldn't even be mad. If I'm not one to say it out loud, but I'm I'm advocating that, man. Listen, when they go out there to San Antonio, win lose a draw, man. You see a Knicks thing, man. You feel me?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they got they got they gotta get their leg back on that. They because they New York people was wild, man.
SPEAKER_01That's you know if you out there that he's doing any kind of inspections, bro. You are out of line, but I feel you everybody gotta go to work. It is HO, he gotta get his money, man. He's making that money that money, man. But we're gonna segue into my boy Cameron. Because you have some stuff that you want to talk about, Cameron. Me, I want to talk about Cameron because I'm talking about that versus battle with Jim Jones, but you have some stuff you want to talk about, Cameron, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, just just give it Cameron his flowers, man. Like he is really, he said, you know, he'll be like a uh the one of the highest sports casters now. He's doing he's doing his thing even a couple of months ago with the whole wrestling skit. He just did a new skip, uh, a new skip with uh with Perk, with Perkins. And basically they had their little back and forth of you know, Cameron being cautious about New York. Perk telling him New York about to do it. So when they uh when the uh Spurs lost that last game, you see the camera go in the bathroom and you see uh center off using come on when uh when Koj had got killed that day after day, come on, and then Perk choking out Cameron in the bathroom, like you could not say nothing. Like, you better not say nothing, nigga. And he choked them out, and it's just cool that like Cameron is leaning into the this character and being entertainment and making spore casting fun. You know, he ain't making it all super boring and be you know, you can still be analytical and still be fun at the same time. So shout out to Cameron, man.
SPEAKER_01You know, he uh I I you know I rocked with Cameron since the purple hayes era, man. I've been rocking with Cam. What I what I love about Cam is what he expects. I love that him and Mace made up to me. They got one of the best podcasts out right now, top top five to me, top three to me, Mace. Because they kind of I love the way that they like if I had to emulate in a sense or like structure what we got going on, all right. Like if I had to like say a podcast to throw a shot out there, that would be one of my shout out, like you know what I'm saying. Because I love where they talk about sports, what they talk about current events, uh any like the music stuff, all this for they really kind of get into the marketing stuff and the joints that we get into like that, even though they do talk about like kind of their contracts and stuff like that. But I do love the way that they rock, I love that. Yeah, me too. And and Cameron, uh with the Jim Jones versus Cameron was trying to make it business. You feel me? I feel like that was like a dope thing to do. I feel like why not get your money? Because a lot of times we see whether the verses or when people up perform at the Super Bowl, they streams go way up. A lot of times, a lot of the youngsters that don't know about the current artists are so at the throwback artists that's on them shows on the venues, they end up wanting to research them and they and their streams go up. Why wouldn't you try to make sure that your business is straight?
SPEAKER_00Like, why wouldn't you? No, definitely, and the fact that Cameron was able to get everybody uh over a hundred, uh you know, 100k and a little and above in those negotiations, even the people even helping out the locks. That was that was that was dope. And he also had a bigger play because he wanted to go on tour after that. Right. So that was just that was just dope. Like, you know, because you know, we already know that versus was crazy. David Kiss was like Michael Jordan of the verses, the way he was doing the city.
SPEAKER_01David Kiss was a one-man army, right?
SPEAKER_00It was people and the fact that Cam, you know, uh got everybody a hundred. You know, even Sheik Luch, you know what I'm saying? You know, if Chic Luch is dope, but people don't give Sheik Luce the flowers that he deserved in the lost. And and and if you listen, I don't know if you ever listened to Sheik Luch like that, but if you listen to Jadakus uh Styles P and Sheik Luch's first album, Jadakus got the weakest album.
SPEAKER_01What listen, bro? Stop it. You must you must want controversy today. The reason why the reason why Sheik Luch is the third third string is because he's the third string.
SPEAKER_00No, he's hit hit not that album. Listen to his album, bro. Well, Jadakins got the weakest album.
SPEAKER_01I love all three of them. I love them. I love all of them. I'm just saying, bro, stop it.
SPEAKER_00I'm just letting you know. Go ahead and listen to all three of them albums. You'll see. So if you if let's give him an order, so you put ahead of Jadakiss in rap lore. No, and I'm only comparing first albums. I'm putting Jadakiss above all of them in rapping ability. I'm just talking about first album, Jadakiss Kiss the Game Goodbye, is not a classic album. Chic Luch got a classic album. Styles P got a classic album. Jadakus don't got a classic album. I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna have to go listen to Sheik again and see if you can still talk about. But like I remember telling us a couple of a couple of weeks ago. Sometimes you be saying she be ass, and then I go and listen to it and I be liking it. So I mean, I hear you on your opinion and what you're saying, but I don't really believe you. I'm just saying, I just I just don't I just don't believe you. Shout out to Cameron, shout out to Sheik Luch, shout out to Jadakus the goat, shout out to uh Up of a Styles P. I think all three are really kind of underrated in the sense of like sometimes too, they overlook when it comes to like any in even their careers and how they got out of the bad boy deal and all that shit, how they kept it real all the way to right now. I love that. Uh shout out the Yonkers, too.
SPEAKER_00To me, like uh yeah, yeah, man. You gotta listen. And bro, did you did and and Chic Luce had the best verse on Benjamins? Better go back and listen to the Benjamins. Are you serious right now, bro? Who had the best verse on all about the Benjamins, bro? I think just say you were Chic Luther fan. I'm a fan of hip-hop, I'm a hand of a fan of hip-hop and verses. I'm just not biased, bro.
SPEAKER_01You sound like you're biased to me, bro. I don't know. Anyway, let's segue into something more serious, right? Carmelo Anthony, not the basketball player, right? Recently, uh, I'm pretty sure everybody that looked like me and you should be uh breast of the news of what's going on with the conviction of the youngster, 35 years he's been sentenced to, uh, for by all accounts, at least uh from the perspective of those of us that study law, that have been in trouble with the law, and that just understand the undertones of racism, right? If you look at the videos from the stuff that we hear about uh from what they showed the jury versus what they showed the public, uh from how the confrontation happened, from when a youngster stabbed uh, I think his name was Austin or something like that. Um I don't know, man. You know, stuff like this happens what about maybe once or twice a year, where it's this outrage of either somebody getting convicted uh or somebody getting murdered that look like us, and it's this outrage. And I think that even when the outrage happens, nothing ever really changes. But uh, I would love to hear your take on how you feel about the Carmelo Anthony situation.
SPEAKER_00Man, it's unfortunate, brother. It's unfortunate. Um, it wasn't fair, it wasn't right. It was definitely self-defense for sure. Um, you know, I'm not sure if they showed this, but I wonder if they showed a video of the Austin boy who died with two AR-15s in his truck saying, I I wish uh a nigga would come towards me today. I wonder if they show that. Like the jury? Yeah, I wondered if they showed that in court. And and and it what's funny is, and I gotta get put my got my 10-4 hat on a little bit. It's funny when they do this outrage stuff because it shouldn't have gone like that, but they're talking about this. But Bill Gates went to court to testify in the Epstein files, and that wasn't television, and and and that and nobody was allowed to go in there.
SPEAKER_01Right. No, I get that. I ain't gonna lie to you. I was trying to post that earlier, I couldn't even for some reason the link went download. But yeah, I definitely feel like uh I'm not gonna lie, bro. In the age of the Epstein files, to even deny something like that, that it could possibly be linked. I I think that you don't understand the matrix. Like you feel me? I think that uh there are no accidents, you know, glitches in the system aren't like you know, really glitches, it's just that you got to pay attention to it, and it might be a glitch to you like that. But at the end of the day, bro, like I don't know, man. I just feel like it to talk about both. For one thing, they was talking about sending young mellow to a penitentiary. What's that his dad? The dude that was his dad? Uh it was Austin's uncle. Austin's uncle worked at. I uh from what I understand, from what I read, first that was true, then I think they said now because of the media outpouring that uh they weren't supposed to do that, but as a penitentiary guy, all them warrants rocked together anyway, it wouldn't matter anyway. The MH would have to rock with him in order for him to be protected or for them to be vigilant of whatever will happen. Yeah, I'm saying it wouldn't really matter if it's in the same state. All of them they all meet up for meetings and all kinds of shit. So it's like that wouldn't matter anyway, right? Then we go to uh it was a representative out there saying that he feel like, of course, he was white, said that he felt like Carmelo deserved, he felt like 35 years wasn't enough. He felt like he deserved a death penalty, right? And you know what I always trip off with this stuff, brother goes on in media, right? You know how we can all watch a video, we can all look at the same crime offense, and literally amongst between the races, people will feel it two totally different things, right? Like just two totally different things. People will really like and it really be white and black. Yeah, of course, it'd be a couple of Uncle Times that might look on their side and be like, uh uh, even Charleston White. I don't even like Charleston White, but Charleston White had to double back and apologize for what he said at first about the Carmelo Entity situation. Once he really was able to look at it, and one thing he does do is advocate for people's freedom, right? Um, I'm saying on a non-profit type of level, not online. He's just a clown online, but he may have to double back on it, and it really be night and day, bruh, from what people look at. And uh, when I was studying law, when I was fighting my case before, you know, it's like a uh uh like a scientific, like biological fact that people like four different people could see a crime happen, and it could be four different perspectives of people seeing the same crime, you know what I'm saying? From the clothing that a person was wearing to what happened, me and you can see a fight right now, and I can say somebody won and you can say they lost, right? I don't really understand the science behind it, you know, biologically, but I feel like it's a horrible thing in America that we can't all look at something that's an injustice and kind of uh state the same thing because we all looking at the same thing, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's unfortunate real talk, man. You know, uh man is it's uh hopefully they they they I need him, I want them to him to be protected while he's there. I want to I want him to get his appeal. I know those appeals take time, but uh I want him to get an appeal, I want him to get some money, and I want him to be protected while he's in there, man. So you know, hopefully he just get with the right people and uh you know stay strong as long as he you know why he can, you know.
SPEAKER_01Right, right. And I and I and I I want to say big prayers, man to Carmelo, man. Yeah, I'm saying your family and whatever else. Uh anybody that's an advocate out there, this one of the ones you should jump on. The cool part about it is and no shade, it's so many cases like this, just even in my state. So many of them on death row, so many people get killed on death row, get unalived on death row. And um, you find out 10 years later, five years later, the DNA to match and stuff like that. So, anybody that's rocket, man, keep up the fight, persevere, uh free but not free. My nonprofit is geared towards reentry cynicism. Uh, once we get what we're gonna get with the funding and the stuff that I want to do, we still working towards that. Trust me, I'm gonna be on the front lines of all advocacy like that. So big prayers up to uh Carmelo Anthony and all the countless slaves uh that are in the penal system. That's the fuck. And we're gonna segue to some more light. Some we need you to talk about. What's up with my boy Daz with the perm? You said Snoop, but this boy got the perm slick down. Wait, I what do you got you talking about?
SPEAKER_00The comedian?
SPEAKER_01No, Daz, Daz Dillinger. Oh, Daz Dillinger got the perm? Bro, he went throw back with the perm. Listen, bro, Dan's got that. He got the yarn in it. Naz got that yarn in it, man. You feel me, upset, right? He has look like DJ Quick. Bruh, I don't even know if you can see. Stop. Listen, bro. Listen, that's hilarious with the port in the middle. Hey, now he out there talking. He looked he shot at him and Snoop folk, and this is how that's why I was saying about the internet, bro. I get it, but me personally, I would just get the lawyers. If you owe me, let the lawyers do their thing, get their cut, and I'm gonna be quiet. But now him and Snoop, uh, Snoop's son has said something. He's talking about fading. Wifey and came out and said something. He didn't snitch on Snoop talking about, you know, he got other babies. Now he's talking about Death Row. Oh, met the man Red Man money. Ah, bruh, I don't know who to believe. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Met the man of red man. How they get in this? They don't eat they from the East Coast.
SPEAKER_01What the hell? Bro, uh, I'm telling you, bro, this shit getting wild. That's one thing about about this shit that be going on, bro, is that it'd be so much stuff going on uh behind the scenes from all the musicians and stuff that we love growing up. I mean, bro, it'd be so much like it just. Man, it's crazy, bro. But it it'd be kind of heartbreaking too to look back and just be like, damn, like y'all can't get it together.
SPEAKER_00That's a fact. No, that's that's a fact. You know, when I see certain figures climb that ladder and get in certain rooms, like you know how we we see me, you know, me and you, we see things like on the same level now. I be seeing that shit, and I'd be like, damn man, what they what they do, man, what they what they have to do, man. And that that's just it's unfortunate. I'm like, damn. So when I say when I started seeing Snoop climb them ladders, getting invited by the Olympics, get paid 500k a day just to be in the Olympics, da da da. I'm like, I raised my eyebrow like this. And this did not like and look what happened, that stuff coming out. He giving off fake death row chains, he's doing all kinds of weird stuff, man. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so basically, you said in your world or your thought process, you feel like Daz is like a hundred with whatever his rights are.
SPEAKER_00At least, at least, at least 80. I know he's I know he's definitely owes some money for sure. For sure, owe some money. Um, and my thing is if you own Death Row, you got the books, you got everything, just make it right, man. And again, I know you don't own that man, you probably owe him a couple hundred thousand, maybe a meal, maybe a meal, maybe, but it's like let's give him his money, man. Let's get on with it. I just know that.
SPEAKER_01I just know that Snoop was talking about, he said he could check the books. Snoop was saying, bruh, the first time they had whatever he said he could come in, he could check the books, check the ledgers. That's the first thing I would I would have audited. If you audit like one way or the other, you audit the books. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Even if you do it in a legal standpoint, you can't really dispute the audit. Why not just keep it legal?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, when we come from certain environments, man, you want to you want to go one way before you even go the legal route. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's been times when I've done business in the past, then somebody might have did me wrong or rubbed me the wrong way. The first thing I'm gonna do is fight on. Right. But but you can't do that, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can't do that, you know what I'm saying? You gotta, all right, you got it, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got away with it, but you ain't getting away with it, right?
SPEAKER_01Because you're not really, because no matter what, you're still not gonna get your money now. If money to you is whooping ass, right? Then you got your money, or or or you fuck around and get your ass whooped. You know, you gotta be careful, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? You might think you're about to go whip some ass. It's almost like that race you're talking about with me. Hell and all that shit about you gonna beat me in a foot race. You fuck around and get whooped, and then afterward, I don't like you feel me off camera or something like that. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Probably gotta tell you feel me. It's like, bro, like, don't don't call the motherfucker out, bro. Not really knowing if you can really whoop that ass. Like, because you really just you just never know. That's why I always go full throttle in situations. I might know I could whoop this nigga, but just in case, let me go full throttle, man. Because you never know what a motherfucker got. Well, and you look like you slow. That's why I was one of the challenge. He must just wanted some attention. Because you look like you don't even look bad.
SPEAKER_00You can't, bro. You can't beat me in nothing in life except weightlifting. That's the only thing you can beat me in. I swear, you definitely weightlifting. You got that, bro. You you you brought you you brawl it. You feel me? Uh are you serious, bro? Bro, you're not beat me in nothing, bro. Not basketball.
SPEAKER_01When I you already know I can fuck you on a basketball because you're gonna be a nigga. Hey, only jumpers, you can't go to the post. Only jumpers, you wanted them, bro. Just perimeter, no, no inside game. You wanted them, bro. I'm telling you what's up with you.
SPEAKER_00You gonna be that bitch on the tape, like fuck your career by doing jabard. That's it.
SPEAKER_01That's what I guess. Look, I if I guard you on the perimeter, you got jump jimmy, whatever. We playing basketball, and we can play winners or losers. I'm just gonna be no, we're gonna go lose this takeout because you already know I'm gonna run it up. Stop. Look, when Movember comes, we can see Rhoda better beer. Really, bro. When you really think about it, little bruh can't never beat Big Brother. I know you like to say stuff like that, but a challenge yourself, and that's dope. I commend you, I love you for that. That's why some of us like because as big bruh, I've been resident big bruh my whole life. That's why someone gotta look at him. Uh uh, look at him, man. Let him he got emotional right now. Let him do his thing, man.
SPEAKER_00But it feels like we know it's okay. Listen, now if this is a way of the competition, I ain't winning that shit. I'm I'm max, I'm maxing out of like 325. I'm up. You your ass over here. Let me show you. Let me show you, little dog, hit 500 pounds. Okay, you got that.
SPEAKER_01So if it came to a marathon, look, and in a photo yard dash, something like that, we'll see what it do. I mean, I don't think you can with me, right? But it's good, and let's just say I gave you that in a marathon. You can't outrun me when it comes to distance, like if it's coming to anything, like what bro.
SPEAKER_00I'm being close fixed. You don't think close picture my whole life, bro? You're tripping, bro. I'm made for the distance, bro.
SPEAKER_01You're not.
SPEAKER_00I am stop, bro.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Listen, but I don't know. I don't know. Listen, you know what I know what it is, bruh. I'm I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna give you that. But sometimes, bruh, when you aspire to be great, you look at it and you challenge it, but you don't have to worry about that, bro. You could just come, uh you already in. You already in, bro. It's good. You feel me?
SPEAKER_00Stop. Listen, listen, I can't wait, man. Listen, listen, listen to the to the audience who is listening to this on Spotify, uh, Apple Podcasts, wherever you listen. The listening experience, let me let y'all know this now. I'm good, we I'm gonna challenge this man on live stream. He's going to lose in everything except the way lift the competition. He's gonna outbench me. That's how that's it. Right, he ain't doing nothing else. That's it, man. It's okay, bro.
SPEAKER_01We can do a poetry writing contest. What feel me? I'm saying we can do anything you want, bro. Stuff you think you can be in writing? Yes, yes, I know I can, yes. I already have a poetry, but I have a manuscript, bro. Forms, bro. We can talk, we can all top five, bro. We can do that and feed them into the system. We can ask chat GPTs who's written the best breath. I write stanzas, bro. You feel me? I'm saying hard work is serious. Stop, bro.
SPEAKER_00Bro, I wrote, bro, I wrote two 24 chapter books in less than long.
SPEAKER_01See, you long-winded, bro. You're gonna have the audience like this. Like, come on, bro. When is it gonna eat?
SPEAKER_00Hey, they're gonna be they're gonna want more, bro. That's crazy. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Listen, what would it tell you what your shit is gonna be like? Your shit gonna be like how when we listen to a song, we like, damn, we three minutes in. Hell dog is still on. Listen, that's funny as that's funny as hell. How many features you got on this motherfucker, nigga?
SPEAKER_00Five people on the song, we're but you just gonna sound like one blood the remote. Remember one blood the remix, bro? It was like two.
SPEAKER_01Hell yeah. Oh, and we could do the spelling beat. Oh, I ain't with no, you got that. Oh, thank you. See, you see, you see how I'm real enough to say what you got, and I'm not I gave you I gave you, bruv, that you might beat me by a step in a 40. A by a step, they're gonna beat you by a feet. By I'm beating you by about three, four feet. You don't remember when we was talking football accolades before, you said you ran a four six footy. Bro, it's not bro. I used to this isn't you. This isn't you, bro. Don't do this online. You start to remind me of Black Adam right now. I'm sorry, Black Adam, bro. You're black Adam 22, bro. Black Black Adam 22 is crazy. You're black Adam, bro.
SPEAKER_00Hell no, you thought I was talking about the rock? No, nigga. Hell no, I look black Adam 20. Anything with i little nigga my wife.
SPEAKER_01Uh that show right there is crazy, bro. It's it's that shit is crazy.
SPEAKER_00Yo, is that is real quick. Is that is the divorce real? Because the the lights came out, they was trolling.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't know. Like she tried to come out and make it seem like somebody stole her identity or like and like was pushing it, but she wasn't. I don't know if they was doing that for class. Everything over there is content to me, everything except except for when niggas really get arrested. It ain't content. Well, it is still content for them, but the nigga in jail, he don't appreciate the content because uh shout out to Ant Hefe, bruh. They talking about his case, Adam 22, his old super boss manager talking about his case, bro. Like he thinks he did it on live while he's fighting the case. Horrible person, bro.
SPEAKER_00Horrible, bro. That's why I'm saying it's like that's our homie, bro. You remember you trying to tape me up? You trying to tape me to Adam 22 before saying this is my homie Adam 22. Man, I said, I ain't rocking with that shit.
SPEAKER_01See, look, I'm I'm gonna keep real child. I'm gonna keep it all the way real. I'll be trying to tell people this if it's for bag, and even if it's for our motion of tread more, I don't I we mean you can't go up there, I'm just gonna be me unequivocally.
SPEAKER_00But he turns he pays though. He he be paying, yeah. But if we make it a classic, what is it? Priceless. That's true. But this is the thing, you know. I'm type of nigga, you know, I like to negotiation. I'm type of nigga. If he if he's trying to give somebody fifteen hundred dollars an episode, I'm about to negotiate that that that YouTube revenue on those videos we're gonna make a classic.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna be on that Jim Jones show. Like, let's just do it for the love.
SPEAKER_00Hell hell no, I'm on that camera.
SPEAKER_01I'm about to get us all a bag.
SPEAKER_00What do it for the love, man? Like, we're gonna do it for the L.
SPEAKER_01Look, so we're gonna segue into our last real topic. Yeah, I'm saying until we get to the to the nitty, right? So I want to talk about post-production. Me and you were talking about this off camera, and I don't really want uh uh uh I apologize to anybody if I feel like I'm talking about him, but if I if you feel like I'm talking about you, fuck how I deliver it, just get to work. Post-production for those that don't understand. If you go look at Cal Wood, Cal Wood's solo, We Got Motion episode shot two days ago. I believe it was two days ago. Look at some of the clips. He's talking about the story of how he quit, uh was it Dale? Yeah, Dale Technologies, yeah. He quit Dale Technologies, even though he was trying not to quit, but he was basically forced into it because uh nepotism, right? He was talking about that and how he formed Cowwood Marketing, and how at first Cowwood marketing almost didn't last because he didn't have nobody to market, right? And it wasn't for lack of effort, right? But he had to have a stick intuitiveness for him to be where we are today, right? I I I use that story as a segue to what I mean about post-production to say this. If Calwood started Calwood Marketing LLC, did all the business part to it, and would say, I'm open for business. And then he decided when he didn't have no business the first, I think he said six months. I'm good, this shit ain't gonna work. And he quit. We wouldn't have we got motion podcasts right now, we wouldn't have numbers for artists and marketing for artists that we got right now, we wouldn't have satisfied customers that we got right now. He wouldn't be able to take care of his family the way he is right now because he probably went back and either bagged for the job that he had, or when he got something else that he probably wouldn't have been happy with and had the work, uh work life uh uh uh thing that he has going on right now, the balance that he has right now. So, my point about post-production is this an artist will go to the studio, sorry about that, get the beat, write the rap, go to the studio, record the song, get it mixed and mastered, put it out, and then that's it. I'm done. It's dope. I'm talking about your cousins, your uncle, your mama could say this is the dopest shit I ever heard. I could agree with you and all that shit, but once you put it out, it's over. And I'm in a realm right now, I'm in this abyss, this black hole of I'm developing artists, I'm being an and all manager, I'm being everything extraordinary, and we get to this door, or an artist comes to me and looking and seeking help, and we at this door of we did everything pre-production, we did the real-time production, and now we're at the post-production. The post-production is the shit that you probably need to put the most money in, the most effort in, the most time in, because post-production is truly and literally forever. If you don't, if you understand that, right? So I don't know about you, Cal, but I get so frustrated with it. But that's literally sometimes I lay on my rack, I lay on my bed, bro, and I am so frustrated that we can get a dope song, do everything we want to do with it, and the artist only writes a song for a week or two until the next song.
SPEAKER_00You should rock your fucking music forever. That's why the the legendary artists that we have who can go on tour in their 50s and their 60s off old music. So why the fuck are you gonna rock a song for one week when you can if you do it the right way? Nelly can perform country grammar forever. Right. And get a bag whenever you want to. Right, right, right, right. So rocking a song for a week is the dumbest thing. And these artists, man, you know, I cause I I love music, that's why I'm doing this, because I I I eat, uh, breathe, and we bleed this shit. Like I always want to say. But we working harder than you niggas, man. It's a problem. And I'm letting you niggas know, I ain't putting no name on it. If y'all not working harder than us at Frequency 99, at Global Mafia Entertainment, at Cowwell Marketing, at Free But Not Free, you're getting cut the fuck off. I'm cutting off. Dub is the nicest, not nicest one of us too. I'm cutting niggas water off. Right, literally. Because we got we we we we do so much. And we and it's we're doing so much for people off off off of what we would love to do. The love. It ain't even just the money. It's it's the love of wanting to make sure that you guys win, make sure that you guys can feed your family, make sure that you can guys can do this full-time without having to have a nine or five. Right. So if y'all ain't working harder than us, listen, y'all don't want to. I don't talk. Dub is the reason that y'all see me, nigga. I'm a fucking ghost. But if y'all don't want to see me, if y'all see me cutting water off, then y'all gonna have to see him. And if y'all gotta see him, right.
SPEAKER_01And I and I think people don't really get it in a sense of in a sense of wanting it. Like you, you can't, I can't want it more than you. I could want you to succeed, but I don't want to be a star, right? Like you feel me? Like, yeah, I want everything around me, I want this to succeed, I want the artist to succeed, I want to make my appearance what I want to, but I don't want to have to be the reason, like you know say, in front of the camera of your success. Now, behind the camera, you know, the shit that you don't see, all the knobs. I'm gonna do all of that. I'm doing it anyway. But post-production, and for any artist watching this when it's recorded, when it's clipped, or whatever, right? Understand what post-production means. And if you don't know what it means, contact me, hit me up, man, at Global Mafia Capo, at free but not free, at Calwood Market at LLC, at We Got Motion Podcast, and at frequency99 clips. You can just tap into any DM and just tap in, bro. It's good.
SPEAKER_00Like it is. We're gonna answer all the questions. What we're gonna start doing, dog. Uh, I'm gonna create a questionnaire. When these artists come to us, I'm gonna sit on this questionnaire. It's gonna be like, I don't know how many questions, maybe 10 questions. Are you willing to do this, this, this, this, and this? If you answer no to one of these, I'm not we're not working with you, right?
SPEAKER_01Right, yeah, because it's important, and and and and and mind you, when he says I'm the nicest, not nice motherfucker, it means that my belief, because I'm I'm boots on the ground, right? My my belief because I'm usually up close and personal, and I kind of see your potential, I I might I might give you a couple of more chances, but but but behind the scenes, you don't understand how hard somebody is working to make sure your shit is on playlist. Now that's the that's what I don't really understand, bro. Like, you know, submitting people's songs to playlists, one thing you gotta be dope, right? And that's not just lyrically, that's uh production-wise, that's uh mixed-wise, master-wise, that's all the presentation, how long it is, how long the song is, because we're in a world now where I came from the era, the era of 40 uh uh uh three and a half minute, four-minute songs, three bar, uh uh uh uh three verses, three 16 bar verses and an eight-bar hook. So I get it, I I understand it, but that ain't where we at no more. So the presentation, not only that, if it you got to understand that even having the playbook to the playlist, it's like a holy grail. If everybody could have that Rolodex, Rollodex, right? Then everybody would be able. So even getting that put out there, you don't understand when you're looking at these numbers. Not only that, go look at some of your favorite local artists. I said this the other day in the in a clip. Go to some of your favorite local artists, they numbers ain't fucking with ours, and we might not even be known like that in Norwegian.
SPEAKER_00That's a fact. No, that's that's a fact. That's a fact, man. Like, they don't they they don't understand, man, and it's hard work, and they don't understand. Like, we're talking your your boots on the ground, you're talking to these artists directly, since a lot of these artists face to face, seeing their lives. I'm in I'm in the background, you know, I'm talking to publicists and curators and uh just so many people. So it's like we we we're doing all this to make sure that y'all good. Because at the end of the day, at the end of the day, we we could put all of our energy into the we got most of the podcast and blow this mother, and this motherfucker be out of here way faster. But we doing this and making sure we we're putting more into the artist than we're putting more into everything else that we could be putting into because we want to make sure that y'all win. So listen, if you don't want your fucking water cut off, tap the fuck in and do what the fuck you need to do. Because get the work, nigga, get the work, make up.
SPEAKER_01That's what I'm trying to do. Get the work because you feel me, I'm saying my bro, yeah, but I always say, bro, when you go on to your nine to five, keep your nine to five, do that. It's always good to keep your day job because you got to support the movement. Whatever little money you get to the side, throw that in the movement, right? But remember respectfully, you're gonna bust your ass for whitey. You know what I'm saying? You respect whitey. You're gonna you when you before you go in. If you're gonna be late, you call in and say, Hey, I'm gonna be late, respectfully. If some if you're if Whitey calls you in the office and he says some shit to you and he had minus you, you don't say nothing back, right? You doing that for your bag and for your check. If you get real numbers, and if we broke it down to you, a hundred thousand streams, especially on multiple streaming sites per 90 days, it's something cool for you if you ain't ever made no money. So understand that that you're gonna make some dollars on it. You feel me? I'm saying it's not we just saying get numbers so you can put them in your pocket and say, I got some numbers, it's so you put a couple of dollars in your pocket. Because any artist knows that ever been paid the first time you get paid, and once you start getting paid on your craft, uh consistent, I don't give a fuck if it's a couple hundred dollars or a couple of thousand, it feels like something, feel like something.
SPEAKER_00If it does feel like something, and if for me, the the the money's cool, but I when I talk to these artists, I say, listen, it's I I want to help you get your numbers up to create leverage. When you create leverage, oh yeah, the money is gonna come because you got the leverage, you got the leverage to uh pay other artists to to uh I mean for artists to pay you to post. You got leverage to be brand ambassadors to get free clothing, uh, so you can have for your shows. Um you you got leverage to uh I I got Artists that I helped, they got free hotel rooms. They created an independent tour. We created a route, and they was able to stay at you know the W and Holiday Inns and Marriott for free because they had the social media presence or the numbers to leverage. Hey, I'll shout your hotel out. Hotels always have free rooms. That whole little game where they try to be like, oh yeah, our shit sold out. No, they always have at least a couple rooms available. So they're not they're never losing money.
SPEAKER_01And they'll give you a free room. And would you create leverage for labels?
SPEAKER_02Exactly so.
SPEAKER_01If you want our label, but our job is to get us somewhere bigger as managers, as ARs, as business partners, you create the leverage to where when the eyes get on you, that means they on us, so we don't negotiate that because we understand what we're doing in a sense of trying to get the bigger payday. So the leverage is all the way around, no matter what. You feel me? I'm saying I love that you said that. I was dope as you said about the leverage because I don't speak on that enough for them to understand. Also, because if your numbers do good, it's almost like when you feature with a major label artist or not, even a moderate label artist, but he already got motion. When you feature with him, even if you don't market your shit, your numbers on that song will go up because you feature with him. Listen if an artist that you trying to that you that want to feature with you want them numbers, he's gonna want to pay you for that feature because he see you already got that motion.
SPEAKER_00Listen, that that that's another thing, and and I'ma say this too. There's a lot, it's a couple artists, y'all numbers got up because of dub. Dub numbers rocking. Right. Don't think that you did it by yourself, little niggas. Don't think that you did it. Don't don't when when when them songs is P dub featuring such and such, P dub featuring such and such, when his numbers grow, your numbers grow. Your numbers ain't growing by itself.
SPEAKER_01Especially if you're not doing the work. I try to stay humble and not even say that, but I feel you know, I appreciate you standing by me, man.
SPEAKER_00No, but no, fuck that humble shit. Because humble, humble, they only want us to be humble in the black community. They don't tell no other race, be humble. Humble means slow down. Humble means don't don't don't do the most. Let me tell you something. When it comes to this marketing shit, I ain't humble. I'm here to step on all these niggas next. I'm here to, I'm here to I'm here to I'm here to dominate and fucking demonstrate. Because it's enough money out here for all of us, but be humble. If I was humble, I wouldn't, I would be with with with with P dub if I was humble. Right. I had to I had to fight through and and get to the right doors and meet the right people. If I was humble, we wouldn't have the best podcast in the world. Amen. Amen. Fuck that humble shit, man. We out here, we're about to dominate this lane in every lane that we do. So, artists, when you see your numbers featuring with dub, that's because of dub, nigga. It's okay to be cool, kiss the fucking ring, be humble if you're not doing the work. Now, if you're doing the work, that's different. But to Wolf's.
SPEAKER_01Sometimes I will do a kind of better at it than me. I tap in and be like, bro, what's up? You good? You feel me? And sometimes we need that. So, you know, I'm not gonna even say no names out there, man. But take care of yourself, man. I got a call about some stuff, and it's been a lot of stuff going on, man. So mental health, man. Sometimes tap in and just say, Hey, are you all right, bruh? Because sometimes you might be surprised that your brother or your sister might go, nah, you know, and I ain't good. And that might be your cue, just to like, what's up? Speak on it. Because a lot of times when we're going through stuff, it ain't even that we really could get the help for it, but the ear might be the ear.
SPEAKER_00The ear is the most important thing. It doesn't have to be nothing financial. Sometimes it can be, but sometimes people just want to be able to get that out because a lot of us in our community, we've got, you know, say we we've we've people have gone to jail because they haven't been able to get that emotion out, been able to get that that let that to talk to somebody. Right. So that's super super important, man. So I can say, you know, I always tap in with dub. Dub always tap in with me to make sure that, you know, say we we are that we good, like-minded, because we do a lot. We do a lot, you know, for these artists, we do a lot with our families, we do a lot for everything. So we gotta check in with each other to make sure that we good because we're not always having good days.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00I'm I I got a cold. Y'all been hearing me mad coughing. I had the flu or something. I've been coughing. So I'm sorry. So for the the audio experience, I just amazing episode, but y'all can hear me coughing, but I'm I'm still showing up. You know what I'm saying? I got to. You know what I'm saying? Uh my my brother Dub's gonna hold me accountable. Uh, you know, like so we know because I've been able to do that. He's been holding me accountable. No, I'm really a producer, that's why I'm saying that. Yeah, he'd been holding he definitely hold me accountable, and I and I appreciate that because I'm all I'm always the smartest nigga in the room. I'm always the person that's uh motivating others in the room. So now I got somebody that's doing the same thing. Like, hey man, you you you fucking up, or hey man, you could you need to do this better, hey man, you need to do that better, even when I don't want to, because I got a lot of stuff going on and no excuses. Y'all see this, y'all see the end results, y'all don't see the that's going on in the background. But guess what? Y'all don't give a fuck, y'all care about the end result. So I gotta give it to y'all, you know, it just you know, my brother hold me down, man.
SPEAKER_01So and and just understand that that that most people, you know what I'm saying, like like the guy with the sunglasses on uh in the dark room is the smartest. Listen, right? I think I have no idea who that is. Listen, listen, right? What that is, shout out with a dope comment on our way out. But look, check on your brothers, check with your sisters, man. Make sure that you understand that mental wealth is a real thing, make sure that you understand that sometimes just be in an ear is probably the best way in order for you to get through, and then sometimes just understand that uh, like I can literally put something out in my business or uh and it don't go the way I planned it. And nobody understands somebody else, they might mean this, this, this, and that. And I literally will lay on my bunk, lay on my bed, and be sad and be depressed. Because I I didn't feel like I just felt me, I felt the artist, I felt my family, I felt like and I felt, and then I might have to really get a talk, like, bro, what are you talking about, bro? Sometimes that's what it is. Like, what are you talking about, bro? You didn't bop bop bop, and and it's not that a motherfucker just needs this constant validation and reassurance. But in this world where you try to be an entrepreneur and you also a creator, you know, I'm saying, and you producing stuff, man, bro, it's it's it's a doggy dog, but a lot of it be mental and affects your heart, and that can make you go in a down spiral. And sometimes every once in a while, you just need somebody. Don't be afraid because sometimes people and I as a crunchy curmudgeon, as the resident curmudgeon, sometimes I'm like, I don't give a fuck what somebody's going through, and I gotta get over that. You feel me? I'm saying to make sure that my fellow man or woman is straight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so that that's a fact, that's a fact. So uh check on you, like I said, like you like Dub said, check on your strong friends, man. But to but now we're doing something different. We're doing back-to-back episodes tomorrow. We will be back, right? We're gonna have a special guest. Um, our second female guest. Her name is Nikki. Uh uh, she, you know, beautiful baddie, man. She's from Canada. So we're gonna talk about a whole bunch of different topics, man. Uh, just her feelings about Drake, how they feel about her in Toronto and everything. So it's gonna be an amazing episode. So y'all gonna see us tomorrow, uh 7 o'clock Pacific. Yeah, I think. I'm not sure. But y'all go see us.
SPEAKER_01It's 7 o'clock my time, 10 o'clock uh east coast.
SPEAKER_00Yep, 10 o'clock east coast. So it's gonna be an amazing episode. Y'all definitely show her some love. Um, and you know, we go we're gonna sign off, man. So, dub, sign us off, man.
SPEAKER_01Hey, hey, and shout out to Canada. Anybody that knows me always say, man, listen, whenever I get my pass, when I get all this probation of probe, whenever I'm really freed and free, not free, but not free. I want to go to Canada. I don't know why. I just feel like I've been saying it for years and manifesting it, and I want to know, right? Before we go out, who got motion, man? Let me know who got motion.
SPEAKER_00We got motion, that's number one. We we got motion. Uh, you know, we we've made milestones, you know. We're looking at our analytics and everything, man. Our analytics have been telling us that we got motion. And I'm about to put this, you know. I'm saying, with the help of my brother, we're about to put this podcast in overdrive. You know, uh I'm beefing with this other podcast. Shout out to the Sunday cookout. Shout out to the Sunday cookout, but I'm beefing with them. You know what I'm saying? Uh, this is about to be the best podcast. You know, dub trying to tell me that the Sunday cookout was better. Listen, it's a whole lot of LA pop, it's a whole lot of LA politics over there. A lot of shit with old lot of a lot of no jumper and shit.
SPEAKER_01Shout out to Rick, man. Shout out to Rick. Hey, you know, listen, I I said that sometimes the way is the consistency of it because it's when it's on, it's on. But I do agree with you in whatever ways. But I'm gonna tell you who got motion to me. OG Ananobi. He's gonna be a Knicks for life. OG Ananobi, man. The New York Knicks coming back in that deficit, uh, the biggest deficit ever. Uh, shout out motion podcast, move fast. I see you, you feel me? Love that comment at the end of the day. You know who got motion. We got motion. Tap in, turn up. I don't know what happened to my co-host, but it don't matter. We love you. Stay tapped in tomorrow. It's 7 o'clock Pacific. It's in the Eastern. We got a special guest on. We got motion to be signing out, man. You already know. Chicago. Low Mike Entertainment, it's free, but not free. It's me, man.