Talk with Toby Ep 4 Jena Wiebe - From Athiest to Believer

For years, Jena Wiebe built her identity around hustle, achievement, independence, and success. She was outspoken, ambitious, and openly atheist; focused on building the life she thought would finally bring fulfillment.

But eventually, the constant striving stopped working.

In this deeply honest conversation, Jena shares what led her away from a life centered on money, status, and self reliance…and down a path of faith, peace, femininity, and a relationship with God she never expected to have.
We talk about ambition, identity, burnout, modern culture, personal transformation, and what happens when your priorities and your heart begin to change.

If you’ve ever felt exhausted by the pressure to constantly achieve, prove yourself, or chase more… this conversation might really speak to you.

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SPEAKER_00 0:01

And I'm really glad you're here. Everything we can do. What's the change in mind? If you've ever wondered whether there's more to life than achievement and appearances, this conversation might really speak to you. Well, Jenna, welcome. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Well, it's it's great to meet you in person. Yeah. Because I've met online, Jenna.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

And I, you know, that's that's how the world works these days. So I love this opportunity for us to get to sit down and have a conversation. But what okay, so what I know about you is what you've posted. Yeah. And there is a very, very big shift in your online presence. And I'm guessing that that is resembles what's going on in your actual life. So let's just go back pre-shift. Okay. What was who are you and what was your life like?

SPEAKER_02 1:28

Yeah. So the life I am like, where do I even start? It's been such a wild ride, but I guess like the Jenna that the world knows is like a hustler. Yeah. I was like a boss babe. I was selling cars for Porsche. And I was, I was like, I was really broken on the inside.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Okay, well, so this is the thing that the world sees, right? So we see successful people. I'm assuming you were making good money. Yep. And you had this life that people thought, whoa. Yes. And you portrayed that life. Yes. But I I like what you just said. That doesn't reflect what was going on on the inside. So what, first of all, what did you chase initially? Like in those days? What were you chasing?

SPEAKER_02 2:20

My whole life, I was I was chasing so many things, but I grew up from a family that was like, we weren't poor, but we did not have money. Like we barely got by. Money was really scarce. My parents had a lot of anxiety around money and they passed it down to me. So throughout my teenage years, like I started working multiple jobs. I moved to Kelowna by myself when I was 22. And I was like, I was here to hustle. I just wanted to be a boss babe. Like I would had a very like feminist mindset. I was hyper-independent. And all I really cared about was being successful in the worldview and making money and being like super fit. I was very much worshiping myself and worshipping money. I was an atheist. I had no beliefs outside of myself.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

Well, and you had said to me that you were even beyond atheist. Yeah. Like you were, you thought Christians were people who needed to follow someone because they were weak.

SPEAKER_02 3:21

I thought that people that not that like I was always kind. So it's not like an opinion that I like the worst person.

unknown 3:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

But no, I truly believed like, you know what? It's okay that you need to believe in a God, uh, but I believe that you have to believe in one because you're not strong enough to stand on your own, and I'm strong enough to stand on my own.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

So at that time when you were having, I don't know, what did would you say? You were an anxious, you were anxious, you were so did you ever wonder? Like, is this the way it is? Were you in therapy? Did you try self-help avenues?

SPEAKER_02 3:55

Yeah, no, I didn't wonder. I thought I just needed to do better. So um, yeah, my mindset was so it was so dark. I was suicidal throughout my teens and my twenties. Um I was like so deeply depressed and so dark. I I didn't see the light at the end of the tunnel, and it was something that I hid. Like I didn't even know what depression was in my teens, but I had like a almost like I don't know if you could quite call it an attempt because I I stopped right beside, but I I kind of did have like a suicidal attempt when I was 18 and I hid it from people. I thought I was broken. And I fought this, like this little voice. I had this chatter in my head at all times. It was so dark. And throughout my teens and my my twenties, it was telling me to end my life.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

And I couldn't shut it off. Like it was exhausting. I remember sitting at a red light, so depleted, just like a shell of myself. Being like, how does like I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel? Like, when does this end? How do I shut this off? But my way to cope with it was like, you do better. Like I was such a high achiever performer. Okay, so I'm gonna be really intelligent. I'm gonna study, I'm gonna be extremely fit. Like working out feels really good. I get those dopamine hits. You know what making money feels really good. So I'm gonna work 24-7.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

There's gonna be nothing somebody could say to me that I'm doing wrong.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

I'm doing it all. So it was like this voice that was attacking you. It was attacking. But then there was another, I guess, survival voice in you that was like, no, I can I can fix this. I can fix this. Yeah. So where did you grow up? Dawson Creek. Oh my gosh, that was where I had my first job. Really?

SPEAKER_01 5:45

Oh, that is wild.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

It's such a small world. I know.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Was your family actively atheist or are they?

SPEAKER_02 5:50

No, um, it just wasn't really discussed. Okay. So mom was like, she would mention sometimes that she believed in God, and I was like, I don't believe in God. Like, that's fake.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Okay, so you lived your life this way for how many years?

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Until well, it was just like the last year I was just baptized in at for Easter. And I can't even like I can't even tell you how quickly this has happened for me.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

When was the shift?

SPEAKER_02 6:19

The shift, again, it I feel like it was in parts. I didn't have like a crazy like come to Jesus moment. Yeah. But um, in 2022, I I just started to realize like I can't keep doing this. Like, I've I was breaking myself in my sales career, but I was determined. So I did push through it for a couple more years. Then 2024, I feel like God really put his hand on me and he started taking everything away. My health was going downhill. Um, I was having like panic attacks at work. All of my friends walked away from me within a matter of months, like all my closest friends at that time. My dog died. Um Wow.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

So you were in it.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

I was in it, and I was walking by the lake one day. And at the time, like I was getting really into new age spirituality, and I was like super into self-development, and I was working on building my intuition, and I would go for a walk in the morning when in the or sorry, a walk every morning before work, and it's where I could really find my peace and center myself to be able to face what I was gonna face in the day. And I had this message, this download come through, and it was like move to Australia, and I was like, what? It was like the a feeling that I've never had before, but I was like, okay, I'm gaining like I'm building this relationship with my intuition, and I guess I'm moving to Australia. It was like this overwhelming knowing, this like this message that I knew I had to follow. So I quit my job or put my notice in. Yeah, and as soon as I put my notice in, I applied for a visa. Uh, the I had a coach at the time, and he reached out to me and asked me to do some sales for him. So now I have a remote job. Um, a girl from the program reached out to me and she's like, Jenna, like I'm coming to Kelowna. Can I rent your condo? And I was like, okay, so I have to rent her. Yeah, she watched my cat, she rented my car. I booked my flight to Australia. I posted on a Facebook, like, hey, looking for looking for a place to live. Someone immediately reached out to me and asked if I wanted to live with them. Like it was so divinely put in front of me. And then for six months, it was just like isolation, deep grief.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

So, what do you think it was that was pushing you away from here, pulling you away? I mean, it seemed like it had kind of all fallen apart here anyway. Yeah. So you were primed to go.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

I've I believe it was God like pulling me out of my ways and bringing me to Him. Cause at the end of that trip, like really diving into new age spirituality, nothing like I could not clear this grief and this heartbreak. And then I started praying to a God I didn't believe in. And within like two weeks, my heartbreak cleared and my prayers started to be answered. And I was like, I was like, okay, there's something here, so I'm gonna be like I started calling it the universe creator. I couldn't use the word God yet. Like I just it gave me like I was so against it, but I was like, there is a higher power here, and then when I so that was March 2025, I came back, so a year ago, yeah, or just over a year ago, I came back to Kelowna, and then I met a new group of friends, and they were all Christian, and then all of a sudden I'm surrounded by Christians, and I had adopted all of the Christian values, but I wasn't a Christian. And my one girlfriend was we went for a walk one morning, and then she's like, Yeah, I'm headed to church. And I had this overwhelming like message to like go with her, and I didn't listen to it, but it just kept coming at me, and then I like went for her birthday. Her birthday, she wanted to go to church together, so I'm like, Okay. So I started dabbling, and then when Charlie Kirk died, I didn't even really know a lot of him, just his short form clips, and it was just like this overwhelming move to commit to going to church last September. And so I I committed going to church. I started reading the Bible every morning.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

That is a big shift, right? Like, and it happened if I can relate in the way that I mean I did grow up going to church, but I when it when the shift happens, there you're like swept up. There's just there's not a lot of denying it because God works in his way, but for him to show up and and take you around the globe, it was wild. Did you know that was God?

SPEAKER_02 10:54

Oh, it was, yeah, just separating me from everything and then pulling me towards him. Like I have no doubt that that was his hand on my life.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

You've been baptized. Yes, you go to church, daily devotionals, yeah. Uh your online content is now heavily leaning into faith. But let's talk about your business because you are a coach. What what do you do?

SPEAKER_02 11:20

So I well, I've been in sales for seven years. Like I had a very successful sales career, and then I just I kept getting pulled back into it. And uh the the friend that I had met a year ago when I came back, she's a business coach and she um has been a business coach for 10 years. She's uh been a naturopathic practitioner for 18 years. So she had this program where she actually coaches women and and helps them build online businesses like she has built. And she was like, Jenna, like you need to use your sales experience to join me and to help these women build their businesses because without sales, if you're not prospecting or networking or you don't know how to sell your business, your business isn't gonna grow. And I was kind of hesitant at first, and then I was like, okay, let's do this. And it just brought me to life. I was like, oh, this is it. And then I really realized that, oh, this is a gift that God has given me.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Well, it was already in you, it was already about women and being financially independent. And but is does it look a little different now on the inside for you? Like compare the two to like were you like a feminist? And yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Yes, I was. I was like rah-rah, feminist. And now the way that we help women build their businesses is we don't believe that we're supposed to be a part of this like hustle grind culture, you know, all throughout the Bible. Women did own businesses and owned property, but there's there's a way to do it that it doesn't break us and it doesn't like take us out of the home from our children. If if you do have children, if you were given like a God-given calling on your heart, we we really help women step into that and and build that. And then I I teach them how to do sales. Yeah, and then the way that my sales has changed is I really disconnect from the outcome and I've really implemented biblical principles. Like God has put this person in front of me and is entrusting me to help them move forward with integrity. So I don't go into a call being like, How can I close this person so I can pay my bills? I'm going into the call. Like, are they in alignment with what we do? Can I help them multiply their gifts? Was it a God-given calling that was put on their hearts? So I really use like stewardship, um, discernment, exhortation throughout the sales process. And then I help women learn how to do that within their own business. And it really takes like the the ick and like the bro marketing like strategy out of sales that we are all inundated with if you have a business and people want everyone wants to help you, but not necessarily help you.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

They want you to help them to help themselves. Yeah, let's just talk about for a minute women in the Bible. Yeah, because I know this is this is actually something I love to talk about. Yeah, because people who are armored in that feminist movement are very anti-talk about women submitting to their husbands. Yeah, but when you actually know how it's supposed to be and that it doesn't mean exactly what you think it means, you start to there's a there's a power in that.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

There's such a power in it, you know, and yeah, I I just love when people question me because it makes I'm like I I get to go deeper into the Bible and like find the answers myself. And I'm finding that people get so triggered when God calls us, um, like the woman is the man's helper, yes, or you use words like obey, but just the translations from like Hebrew to English get so distorted, and when someone hears the word like obey, they aren't willing to listen to the rest of the passage. They're they're yeah, and we're talking about godly men, we're talking about godly men who like submit to Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 15:17

A man, on the other hand, has to commit to caring for and taking care of this woman and loving this woman forever. Yes, so it's it's a two-way street, but it was it was the translation, and I watched this on Better Together. I love watching Better Together. I didn't know that I know that one. Well, it's a bunch of um Christian women and like well-known ones who have platforms, pastors and and they talk about all these things, and it was yes, it was a helper, yeah, but God used the same word as he used for himself. Yes. So in in Hebrew or Aramic, yeah, it's the word for woman is actually the word that God uses for himself. So as in elevating and lifting and making life better.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

The most like powerful force in the entire world calls women the same thing he calls himself. Yeah, I'm like that is so powerful.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Well, so when you talk then about now helping women, yeah, what is the response? Like, do women come to you and and they're already aware of your faith and and this take, or is this something you introduce to them and what do they say?

SPEAKER_02 16:30

So it's um kind of like a little mix. My business partner got baptized a year ago, too. So the business has just changed so much as we have like furthered our path with faith, and we are just organically pulling in Christian women. So when I find out that a woman is a Christian on one of our calls, I really get to dive in with her and it just changes the the process. Like, yeah, you when you get to ask a woman, like, okay, why do you want the wealth that you want? And they're like, Oh, because you know, I I want to take care of my family. But further than that, I want to be able to give abundantly to my church, or I want to be able to fund this Bible camp, or I want to do whatever. Because we are as Christians, like we are meant to prosper financially. Yes, yes, and then we are meant to like share that and grow the church. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

So do you feel more or less powerful now?

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Like way more powerful, yeah, but it's so vulnerable. Like, I feel very called to share online, and every time I do, I'm just like, oh my goodness, I'm gonna get made fun of. And I'm like, no, it's fine. Like if I do, which I haven't actually all rightly had to my face, but if I do, like that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Other faiths are their faith is woven into who they are. Yeah, so everything they do has their faith in it. Yeah, whereas Christians, you know, you're always bumping into someone, oh, oh, you're Christian. It's like, why is that? Why is that not front and center?

SPEAKER_02 18:05

People enjoy it, even if they don't believe in God and you're like, they're going through something and you're like, Can I pray for you? They're like, Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Well, and don't you find people who maybe don't identify as Christian when they're in their hour of need? What did they say? Yeah, help me God. Yeah, God, it's all about God in that moment. Yeah, so you changed basically your whole life, your friends, your focus, your business focus. Just looking back, if you could talk to 10 years ago, Jenna, what would you say? Because somebody could be listening right now in their 20s, you're in your 30s, yeah. So somebody's in their 20s and they're like, Yeah, this isn't for me. What would you say? And I mean everyone has a different story, but if you could talk to yourself, picture yourself.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Yeah, that's such a good question. I think that I just I know how stubborn I was. So I couldn't have gone about it any other path, but just like there is a light at the end of the tunnel. When you doubt that there is, there is, and you don't have to do it by yourself. The weight isn't fully on your shoulders.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

What is that feeling of release like? Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

I feel like I'm gonna cry. It's it's the most beautiful gift I've ever been given. And he, I'm still going through trials, but I'm so grounded in trust. I have a peace that I have never had before, and he has healed my nervous system. I rarely feel anxious, and when I do, I know where to turn now.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

And you know, to remind yourself, yeah. And this is something that I've been saying to people too is like I wouldn't be creating all this and having these conversations if I didn't mean it. We're we're busy people, we like you don't have to be doing this, except that we do. Yeah, because you want everyone to feel this way, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

And from someone who was so dead set against it, just like riddled with depression and anxiety. I've had a lot of those friends circle back to me, and one the other day, very recently, um, she circled back and she's like, Jenna, I can't believe you are who you are today, and you have strengthened my faith because I never thought that you could ever find God. I didn't think that you could ever come to faith. So seeing you come to faith makes me sad that I gave up on you, and it encourages me to speak up and not give up on people.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

And really, I think that is ultimately what Christians are called to do is spread the word and do the work. When we're talking about work, back to work. What is your ideal client? Let's talk about your business.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

Just any woman that has gone through so something that's so deeply impacted them, and they have a calling on their heart now to move forward and help other women through that. So it really does look different for everyone, but we help them create like an offer, a way that they can support I'm saying women, but we support women, but they may support men and women. So we help them build that offer, we help them build an online presence, we help them with brand partnerships, we really help them create a full ecosystem around their calling.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

When we talk about business, there's you know, you always think you might run into a questionable person. Like all how like how do you maintain the faith element with the business element? Is it more of just like a trust thing, or are there things you're actively looking for in people?

SPEAKER_02 21:44

Like I really do feel like we just draw in the most beautiful aligned people. My business partner, she has a really great following and and she's had a presence online for so long. So a lot of our clients do come from that. Right. So we already know often, and we I figure out like through the Discovery call, like what their values are. And yeah, I've only actually come across one person that I've had to just kindly say, like, this isn't the right fit.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

But you're in a position where you feel comfortable doing that now.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Yes. Yeah. And you know what? Everything in hindsight was meant to get me to where I'm at because I've really gained that authority and that confidence selling cars for Porsche. I really had to deal with a high-end.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

And somebody who probably w was demanding in some cases. Yeah. Absolutely. Often.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

In the best way possible. So when you like, do you ever get nervous about people's reactions?

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Sometimes it's hard. Sometimes it does shake me, but it's like that that I always go back to. Like there, there's a reason that this is put on my heart, and I'm kind of just finding my way through it.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

How would you describe, say, your anxiety level now compared to before? Not implying that you have anxiety, but we all have moments of anxiousness.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

It's within the last couple of months. Like I definitely in January had my anxiety spike.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

And um So what makes your anxiety spike now?

SPEAKER_02 23:06

When it comes to finances, like that's still ingrained from my my family, right? And um, yeah, I would say that's the thing that makes it spike the most.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Because you're not rolling in that Porsche dough. Yeah.

unknown 23:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

But is that what it is? It's just that it's it's it looks different.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

It looks different, yeah. And I just know that the path that I'm going to be on, like I know and I always have known that I am meant to be very wealthy, but I haven't known how to hold that wealth yet. I have not known how to steward it yet. And God will give it to you, like when you're you're ready to hold it, you're ready to steward it, when you have acted in obedience. And I truly, truly believe that. And I just have this trust now that that is coming.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

That's coming.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

My character is being developed right now, and I'm going through like the trials that I need to go through to learn the lessons that I need to hold that. So I like I said, I just feel so grounded in truth now that I don't have those anxiety spikes as often. And if they do come up, I step away from whatever it was that was bringing it up. And I go to a verse in the Bible that talks about do not be anxious. And I read that and I pray on it, and then it it just like lifts.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Yeah, that's that's the thing. And I mean, technology now, love it or don't, it is very handy because when you're feeling something, you can actually search a Bible verse that will bring you peace. I mean, you can open your book, but you can also you can also search it. I first of all, I mean, I'm older than you, so I don't want to sound at all like patronizing or anything, but I think for because you are you early 30s? Yeah, I'm 33. So you are very, very strong in who you are. And I think you've probably, I'm gonna guess, have always been strong in who you are.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

But are your parents still alive? Are they still? So what do they say to you about this?

SPEAKER_02 24:56

You know what? They don't understand it, but they are like so proud of me.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

But do they see that you are happier? And yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

And they they started asking me questions and they still live up north, but they were just in town this last week and we had lunch together with my sister, and they asked me to pray over the meal, and they just see such a difference in me that they are so encouraging and they're they're curious, and they've just they've always been very, very supportive.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Yeah, and sometimes we worry about uh the people in our lives and and how they're going to take to it. But I was just saying to my husband, just in the last day or so, something that we were waiting for to happen uh in his business-ish. But it was supposed to happen, and then at the last minute, it didn't happen. And then we thought it would happen next month, but now it's probably not going to happen to the fall. And he was just, you know, that like oh, like I would like to get this taken care of. And I was at the sink and I just had this moment of like you call it a download, like a God voice, just like thank you. Say thank you because it's not supposed to happen right now. So I turned to him and I said, Take me seriously here, but we need to be thanking God that this didn't happen this week. Yeah, it's not meant to happen now, and we just have to trust because we don't know. Yeah, so it's interesting that you can find peace and um faith and confidence in something that you admittedly know nothing about. What is that? What do you think that is?

SPEAKER_02 26:31

I think it's the Holy Spirit after being like so insanely anxious and control. Like I always wanted to control everything. Yes, yeah, that's exactly it.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

But I think, I mean, we know we're all gonna wrestle with doubts at times. But this is the beauty of faith is that you don't feel alone.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

No, you can feel sad, yeah, scared, but and and you get to bring your doubts forward. Like sometimes my prayers aren't always really cute. Once I heard I can bring my doubts to him and my frustration to him, not just grateful, like yes, I am grateful, but also I'm frustrated because of this, and I'm doubting this, and I'm sorry that I am doubting this.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

But I am so make it so I don't doubt it. But we always, my daughter was calling us judgy. And of course, I was feeling like I am way less judgy in these last this last half year. So then I started to get like, well, I you know, when you feel the shift, but but other people maybe haven't quite seen it yet. Yeah, so then I started praying to not be judgy, yeah. But then what does God do? He sends you people that you would be very judgy about before. So you have to you don't want to be judgy, like carrying it. Well, here's a lot of people that you would have judged in the past.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

You want patience? Here's a lot of annoying people. Yeah, that's exactly how it works.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

Yeah, he's gonna give you that obstacle to make you face it.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

I know, gosh, it's it's so interesting how it works. Yeah, so so really nothing negative then in not that I want to keep harping on that, but I'm just saying if somebody is feeling fear about taking that leap, especially when it comes to their livelihood money-wise, yeah, what do you say to them?

SPEAKER_02 28:14

It's like it's the hardest thing I've ever done. It is the most wild trust fall. God has, I have so much time right now. I have so much space in my life. But if I didn't, I wouldn't have a relationship with him because I was so busy and I always filled my plate. There wasn't a quiet time to get to know him, to read, to pray, because that's how he really comes through. And it's like I see the little prayers being answered. Like the mortgage is coming up, like I don't know how this is gonna work. But then I I keep seeing these seeds planted when I do trust, the thing comes together. But it feels like a really wild trust fall, and there's there's times that I'm praying and I'm like, I feel like I'm being irresponsible. But the way that I used to bring like make things happen and and pull things together at my own will, they don't happen. And I've had so many times, like within the last few months, I was uh gonna pick up um the sales calls for a company. Yeah, and this was a Christian man that I really organically met, and I spent three weeks learning his business, and I was like, oh, this is a Christian man. So God put this in front of me. I'm supposed to run through this door. And after three weeks of training, I was like ready to take on his company. And then there we just misunderstood what the position was and there wasn't alignment. So God actually closed that door. Every time that I like reach out, I try to take on another company, or like I reached out to one of my favorite podcasts. I'm like, hey, I was the booking manager for a podcast. Like, do you need any help? I have sales experience. Do you need help? Every time I try to push, every time I try to create things through my own will, it's like running into a wall and I'm exhausted, anxiety comes up again, and I'm like, okay, I just trust you.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

But now, somebody who ears that this might fall on might say, Well, so then what? You just sit there and wait for things to come to you. Like, what is how do you discern what is for you?

SPEAKER_02 30:22

I I'm still really learning how to hear God, and um, it's acting in obedience. So I was called to post a few weeks ago, and it's how I came across you, right? And it was through a random, like I liked a picture that my church posted, and you saw my name through that, and then you clicked on my page, and well, God called me to start posting about faith. So that's how I'm seeing it come together. It's like it's those little breadcrumbs almost, and it's just trusting that it's going to come together. And the the more that I follow this path, the more my business partner and I are aligning, the more momentum we're getting. What about your love life? Yeah, like is it oh my goodness, that's a painful topic. Is it? No, it's not no. I just in every way, God has just kept me in this like little protective glass. And I've been single for six years, and I am so rarely even go on dates. But again, it's every time I try to make that happen. Like, if I'm like, oh, this guy's cute, I'm gonna send him a message on Instagram. It's never read. If I like, um Do you date online? I download the apps off and on, and it just doesn't, it doesn't work. But I would not have wanted to date a godly man a year ago.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

No, I was gonna say your your ideals have probably changed quite a bit.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

Completely. Yeah. So I'm just grateful. I'm like, thank you, God. I pray for my husband every morning. I like I pray not like please give him to me, but please protect his health, his uh physical health, his spiritual health, like please keep him from the lust of the world. Like I pray for his character. I just I pray for him and his life. And I I just know that God will put him in front of me when we're meant to be. And I just know that I have such a powerful calling on my life, and I believe my husband does as well. And I can see us doing this, like a podcast or having a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

You said that you have a together of a person, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

So, like um, it's a very specific man that I am looking for, or that not even that me personally am looking for, like, I really do feel in my heart that he is those things, and God will provide when it's meant to be.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Absolutely. I just want to make sure that people understand that because of a shift in you, and again, I didn't know you before, but as you describe yourself, I can see your personality is the same. Yes. You're driven, yeah, but in a different way now. It's different, it's just more trauma. It seems like, yeah, that it's like there's a peace about it. It's like it's I always say that word, but I think I think don't you find you know actually know what it means now?

SPEAKER_02 33:04

I actually know what it means now to have it's like it's joy and trust, even through the trials, like even through the hardest times, yeah, you can find like the good in it. You're I'm not like crippled like I I used to be, and it's through everything. Like I want a husband more than anything, and I've always wanted to be a wife, and it was the one thing that just hasn't come together for me. But anyone else in the past, it just it wouldn't be what I know that it's meant to be, and I wouldn't have been satisfied in it, I would not be in alignment with someone that I dated two years ago. I think the stubborn people, it's harder for them to come to.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

I think people will relate to you because you were so far on the other side of it. On the other side of it. So, what do you want to say to somebody who's watching right now and is where you were?

SPEAKER_02 34:00

Yeah, I just to just to be open to those little breadcrumbs to explore them, to soften your heart. If I can come through the other side, like literally having high school friends reach out to me that I haven't spoken to in 15 years, being like, Can't believe you're here. Like, it's so beautiful. It is beautiful. It's become like my favorite topic because you can put, well, you should put Jesus at the center of everything. And I didn't really understand what it meant for your heart to be on fire for Jesus. But like once it is, it's like I have people coming, they're like, You're glowing. Like, why are you glowing? And I'm like, it's this, it's the Holy Spirit. Like just this thing called the Holy Spirit, and I'd like to share it with you.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Yeah. Okay, with that, we move into our living word segment. And so this is where you share a Bible verse that has impact in your life right now because maybe it's what somebody needs to hear today.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

Yeah, I got two. Okay, if you don't mind. No, please. So the second one I'll need the Bible for, but the first one is Psalm, I believe, 119, 105, and it's speaking about how God's word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path, because that is how I feel. Like I feel like I am running in the dark, and I'm just trusting that I'm not gonna fall. So my auntie had said that to me, and I it just has really stayed with me and really resonated with me. Yeah, and then the second one is for anxiety. It's Matthew 626. Look at the birds of the air, they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly father feeds them. Are you not more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life? So every time that anxiety does creep up on me, that is the verse that I turn to. I read, I pray, and it lifts my anxiety.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

I love that. I love that. Thank you for sharing.

SPEAKER_02 36:07

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

Now, if somebody has questions about business, about faith, where can they reach you?

SPEAKER_02 36:13

Yeah, you can reach me on my Instagram. That'd be a really easy way. It's just Jenna underscore weeb, J-E-N-A underscore W-I-E-B-E. Or you could email me and it's Im Jenna Weeb at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

All right. Well, thank you so much for being here and sharing your story.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Yeah, thank you. It was so special to like fully tell my testimony for the first time. And yeah, I was very beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

You did great. Thanks, Jenna. And thank you for joining me on Talk with Toby Real Life Real Faith. Until next time, keep walking in faith, keep trusting in God in the everyday, and may his peace meet you right where you're at.