Ep 4 - and THAT's Cruising, Grande, TS, & Horror 🚢🎤🧸

🚢✨ DOUBLE DROP ALERT ✨🚢

This week, we're giving you two episodes because apparently one conversation wasn't enough.

We're talking about Jed's latest cruise adventures, Ariana Grande's new music, and the Taylor Swift x Toy Story crossover that we are entirely here for. We also discuss whether Taylor might be dropping subtle hints at a return to her country roots, because naturally we have thoughts.

From there, we spiral into Disney movies, horror films, and all the random tangents in between.

It's one of those episodes where we start with a plan and immediately abandon it.

So whether you're here for pop culture, Disney nostalgia, scary movies, or just two friends attempting to stay on topic, pull up a seat and join the group chat.

Because sometimes the best conversations are the ones that make absolutely no sense on paper.

...and THAT's a pod convo. ☕️🎙️

Robert Thompson's TedTalk: 

Dragging Your Identity into Something Fabulous

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

And that's a podcast. Hi, gay, and welcome to Pride Month. We are about to do a death drop of a second episode in one week. What are we, Taylor Swift or something? My gut. Don't do that. No, but welcome. No, I know. Honestly. No, that queen has Easter eggs up the wazoo. I don't even have a chicken. So I like I can't even can't even compare. But no. Welcome back. Welcome to the group chat. Thank you for coming back, listening to us, to my one straight male hater. If you made it back, welcome back. And it's okay. We we we love you too. If you have listened to, um, and that's a very loud closet episode with Robbie. You notice that there's a space for everyone, and everyone has a space. And I hope you find yours within this podcast. Ah. Anywho, we got some really exciting things. Jed just came back from a cruise. And I know in the gay community that could mean something different, but no, it's an actual boat cruise where we went on a boat. I think I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Yes, like an actual boat. Okay. It was a family-friendly cruise. It wasn't a gay cruise. Oh, even vampire parties, anything like that. Because that's clarify. Yeah. Right. Uh, did make some friends on the boat, and they're just like, you gotta come to the gay cruise like next year. It's insane. I'm just like, I don't doubt it. Um, of the various stories that you shared. Um I don't even think you have to look that far. Just look online and you don't just step out of your cabin and then before you know it.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

There it is. Whoa. No, a hundred percent. So, how was the overall cruise?

SPEAKER_02 2:15

The cruise was amazing. Uh it's currently, I think, yeah, the largest ship in the world. It is massive. I didn't know they made ships that big, like aside from you know, freight carriers and battleships.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Sounds like a man. These ships are men.

unknown 2:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

But that's what I'm saying. It was amazing. It was so nice to have like hot weather and like have moisture in the air. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Um on a gay cruise, that would be something different.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

Yeah, I don't doubt that. Uh so yeah, I made some stops along the way, uh, like a couple of mixed code and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

But okay what were your top three things about going on a cruise?

SPEAKER_02 3:05

I'm gonna sound like rip probably really weird, but I love the buffet. It was probably the best buffet I've ever been to. Like it was actually like pretty good quality food, a huge variety, but so we weren't bottoming, okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

I know.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Um just joking. Second thing. Not to just like you know, toot their horn, because you know, we're not sponsored by them and whatnot, but like the staff were amazing. I never had to like worry about anything, especially going without a cocktail for too long. Um okay and then we have a drink package. Absolutely. Uh I was seeing all these things on TikTok of like, hey, instead of paying for the $120, you know, drink package or something, I spent $4,000. Uh because you know you just rack them up.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

You just rack them up.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

You're on vacation, you might as well.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Right.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

Um, and then what I never thought I would ever do uh is go ziplining. Oh. So because I I'm definitely terrified of heights. Uh and there were three areas that we were all supposed to go through. And you know, they parceled out the groups so that way you know, hey, everyone's moving, we're getting everybody as much as many people as we can through the whole thing. We started at what would have been like the last and the most extreme one. So you're just you're hoisted up and laying down, so you're face down, and then you go over basically a canyon. And oh my god. That was the first one. Right, yeah. The when we went to the second one, it was a bunch of the like the smaller ones, and you're actually like sitting up and whatnot. Yeah, so those the whole thing was a lot of fun, but yeah, it was absolutely terrifying to be like, oh, the first time I'm doing this, and I'm absolutely terrified of it. We're just gonna jump off the deep end, quite literally.

SPEAKER_01 5:09

Yeah. And so what oh, in what what city was that in?

SPEAKER_02 5:13

Uh, we were in Honduras for that. Okay. Super cool.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

I don't remember the specific city, but it's okay. I'm surprised. I'm just really happy you said on Honduras. It's Honduras, but sure.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Okay, well, sorry, I don't want the accent.

unknown 5:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

Um, but what are the top three things that you did not like about going on a cruise? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

It was definitely an adjustment getting used to ship time because everything was according to ship time. So even though you went to other countries and different time zones, it was like, hey, um, so like at our first stop, the I believe the time zones were different from the actual like land location where we were versus the ship. And four people got left behind. Oh my god. Because like it's a you know, a pretty advertised thing, like, hey, if the ship says we're pulling up that, you know, I don't know the word, uh, the walk with the ramp, yeah, uh, and closing the door at 4 30, it is closed at 4 30. Oh my god, and you're preparing to leave.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

This is like an episode of Survivor. You do it.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

I mean, you can search search all over TikTok everywhere. You'll just see all these people like, hey, we were supposed to be back at 4 30. Here's these people coming across at 4 45. Like some people are yelling from the cruise ship and whatnot, like, hey, run or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

But and what happens to them?

SPEAKER_02 6:40

They just stay there, they have to find their own transportation to get to the next port.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

Wow. Yeah. And no buffet. No buffet. Like that's the worst part. That's what I would have been like, we're not eating. We're not eating that.

SPEAKER_02 6:57

No, that. But like, I wouldn't even like, how are you going to get somewhere to do that? Like, if you get left behind, because we went from Mexico to Honduras.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Um, okay, better. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

So we went to a whole nother country. So unless you had your passport with you, which I'm gonna assume they left it in the safety memory. Oh god. They would have to go to the next place in Mexico still. You know, thankfully we'll we were going to another place in Mexico. Um otherwise, like, I don't know. You probably have to like go to an find an embassy or wherever you possibly could to figure out something.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

That just gave me so much anxiety. I don't know if it's like.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

So it was like, hey, ship time is two o'clock, it's good to head back now. Even though it's like, oh, well, we don't have to be back till 4 30. You'd be like, I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

I'm speechless. Which is different for me. Because I okay, so so getting used to the ship time. What what's another thing that maybe was just uh not up to par with what was like painted about a cruise?

SPEAKER_02 8:12

I don't know if I would say it's it was like painted or chalked up of the cruise and whatnot, but they had karaoke. And it was such a limited selection. Oh like it was pretty much unless there was like top 10, I wouldn't even say top 100 songs over the last 20 years. Oh my god. You know, the annual thing. Your song basically wasn't there if it came out after 99.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

That's like half of my repertoire.

SPEAKER_02 8:38

I know, right? Like it was like, okay, I'll pick something, do something that I normally do. And they're like, nope, we don't have it, nope, we don't have it, nope, we don't have it. I'm like, okay, do you at least have like Celine Dion or Whitney Houston? And even then, it was like an extremely small catalog selection.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

We're but that's because we're we're spoiled. We're spoiled.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

We that is a hundred percent true. I do understand that.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

My roommate runs karaoke, and he it's like a business for him, it's not just a we're gonna just do this on a random Saturday. No, like it's a business for him. He puts it together. It's like he uses CaraFun, and we're not not sponsored by Carafun, but you know, shout out to them. Um, but yeah, like we have what feels like over a thousand songs to really choose from.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

But like that's where I'm like I was so surprised because like this is a cruise, it has thousands of people that come through this ship every week. And like almost every night, that karaoke place was packed. Okay, that was gonna be my next question. Like, did people actually go? Yeah. And like, I mean, almost always the um the rotation was pretty packed until like the last maybe 45 minutes. But by then it was like 1.30 in the morning. Yeah. But otherwise, like it seriously was packed. They even did a karaoke competition. But then it was like, hey, you can only choose from like these select songs because you gotta sing in front of a live band at the end. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Did you win? Uh, I wasn't able to enter. Uh apparently I got there too late, and they were like, oh, we're only taking like 10 people. And as like half of the people were going up to this stage, like, I did not know I was signing up for a competition.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

They were just like, I just really wanted to sing a song.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

So I just thought this was the list. So I was like, okay, so you could have been like, hey, are you aware this is a competition? And right, maybe people that wanted to and whatnot, but they just they weren't waiting they weren't wasting time.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

They were like, you're here. Okay. Well, that sounds exciting. And out of all the ports and the places you went to, what was your favorite location?

SPEAKER_02 11:05

I really enjoyed Honduras. Uh more because of the guide. Just because I like it. Exactly. I'm going to just say it different. Yeah. Uh because the tour guide, he was absolutely amazing. Uh, but Cosmel was a lot of fun. Um upscale, I guess, in comparison of the others. Uh, it looked kind of like the first two ports were relatively new, I'd say, in the last few years, as in like the community, they're trying to actually like grow it, so it's not the best. But and then um the cruise line has like their own island that you know they go to at the end, and it's like a beautiful place, like it has tons of stuff to do with the family, and then it has a whole of the section that is just adults. Oh, and like massive infinity pool, like in pool, walk-out bar. It was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Amazing. I can't wait to go on a cruise, except for the anxiety part of like possibly missing getting on the boat that I don't I could live without.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Well, it's like you get there at eight, and it's usually, or at least if I remember right, it was like you have eight hours to spend in the port. So it's not like hey, we're only here for four hours and that's it.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

Just that a fucking timer.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

Like exactly. And like there's a really cool app that they have, and it's like, hey, this will always tell you what the ship time is, so you don't have to rely on your phone. Can you hear the dogs? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Okay. The barking drives me insane. Like, because it doesn't really stop really, really well, it's because once you walk once you walk and they see your fucking face, they would think that they would stop.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

There could be a hair that falls on the ground and all of them that go ballistic.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

And who chose this life?

SPEAKER_02 13:07

I chose two of them. The other two were were a surprise.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Oh gosh. I think we're in the clear, because whatever.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

But I did fight for the other two, because yeah. They're like, no, we're not gonna keep them. And I'm just like, no, if they're it's the only litter that they're gonna have, I'm gonna keep them. And there's only two. How do you decide which one to give up?

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Both of them. You're a horrible person. I'm just joking. You could you could have made another family really happy.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

Or I could have kept them and been happy myself, which I did and am.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

Well, I'm glad you're happy, and that's all that matters.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

But anyways, glad we're finally on that page.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

In in terms of dogs, in terms of everything else in your life, I still have my reservations about certain things.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

Occasionally switchblades stored under the coat, but it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

That's not a and this pod combo, but who knows? Maybe, maybe the history will come out in time. And then how was it coming back to reality? That was rough.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Uh, from so like have you have to get off the boat like pretty early. Uh the shuttle we had left at like 7.10, 7.15. So you have to plan, like, hey, it's gonna take us an hour to get you know the last bits packed up and then get off the ship and whatnot. So we like basically got up east coast at 5 30, 5 45 in the morning. Still kind of getting used to that time change, but it then gets the shuttle, gets you to the airport, and then you're at the airport at like 8 15 in the morning, and the flight's not till 2 30.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Oh my god. Why was it so late?

SPEAKER_02 15:04

Oh because that's just how it ended up working out.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

But was that like did we target like low costing over convenience?

SPEAKER_02 15:16

I think it was to make sure that no matter what, we weren't gonna miss our flight. I didn't plan the flights, but who planned the flight?

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Uh was it like a a third-party person? Yeah, a third party person.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Okay, because if it was who I thought planned it, I would have said if I remember correctly, like you can get off the ship in like in groups, and I think it ended up going to where like some of the groups didn't get off until like 11. And it was a 45-minute drive to the airport from where we were. Yeah, provided there could have been traffic. So if we ended up being in the later group, I mean, we really would have been pushing it close with that time.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

I'd I live life on the edge. Like if I miss this. If I wow, yeah, true. For me, it's like 10 months.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

We have to throw Gaga in there somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

If I miss this flight, that is the universe saying you deserve another day. And all my friends are like what though? They're like, well, all my friends are like, no, that's you just being not prepared. And I said, Cool.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

So yeah, then finally got out of there, got to Denver, first time in Denver, and then had like another three or four hour layover before finally getting home. So like from getting up to where I got home was like almost 21 hours.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

Oh god. That just doesn't sound exciting whatsoever, but no one's moved. He's barking. Something moved outside. Maybe there's a goat. I w there is actually a goat outside.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Well, maybe it's Mang at him or something. I don't know. It's not her. Then there's a boy. Oh, I'm so sorry. I can't tell a dog apart from the sound of their bark by their gender.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

You don't hear it's a deeper, it's a deeper bark.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

I don't know. I hear the emeloured.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

One day I'll have one home.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Yeah, if you're able to travel back to the 80s, buy a mansion for half a buffalo nickel.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

I don't know. I have a whole plan set in place. Eventually I'll move back to the East Coast, and I should have a good chunk of money saved up when I do that. So then I'll be like, wow, here's the chunk of money, down payment. Give me my house, whatever have you, goodbye, nobody talk to me, and then I'll make one of those rooms like a studio. Great. But until then, we will live on the life on the edge and not of glory, as you so happily stated. But speaking of singers, some really exciting news. We're about to go into some shade, which stands for stories, headlines, and dramatic events. And how much more dramatic can you get than Ariana Grande's new song? I think it's called Hate That I Made You Love Me. If I am not mistaken, um I might be mistaken, and that's a bad gay on my part. But I'm just, oh my god. It is so good. Have you heard it? I have not yet. Are you you're about to anger some people, and I'm about to ask this question.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Okay, when did it come out? When did it come out? It came out last Friday, I think. Oh, so when I was in an on in international waters and didn't have any service or any connections to the city.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

So then when you got when you got back and you were sitting at an airport for five hours, you couldn't listen to a three and a half minute song.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

No, I was trying to sleep, which is probably why my shoulders all you know fucked up from sleeping in airport.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

And that's a pop combo. But no, so it's honestly so so good. She's back. I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Um, definitely breaking the the little like she's back, like performing, or like Ari's back? Because that is a different thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Um, she's definitely stayed with the like Glinda-esque look that she she got when she was doing like wicked and such.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

Um, which so that you might also want to clarify a little bit, like the high fashion or like the super like almost skinny.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

No, don't you dare talk about her like that. Don't you dare talk about her like that. Because oh my god. And she has gone on to say multiple times that this is actually like the healthiest she has felt in the longest time, and that when everyone thought that she was healthy, she was doing a lot of things that were just very unhealthy to her body. And so don't, don't you dare. But literally, speaking of that, actually, that's like kind of what it feels that the song is about. And she did mention, like when she released that she was going to um drop this new album. She literally, and I quote, said, It's definitely from a place that I've I've been maybe like too shy or polite to tap into before. So it just kind of feels like fuck it. So I think after listening to it and then watching the music video that has Justin Long in it, um, do you know who Justin Long is? I believe so. Guy from Jeepers Creepers. I haven't seen Jeepers Creepers. Do you enjoy horror films? Not particularly. Well, then that makes sense because he's like in a ton of horror films. Anywho, but it's just a really good you should watch it. And then you Jeepers Creepers? No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Well, no, not life has been enough of a horror story. I don't need to have that in my entertainment industry. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

And that's a pod combo right there. If you knew the life that Jed has lived, my goodness, you would feel a lot better about yours. Um, no, but so well, do you fall asleep at night? Yeah, yes. Actually, sometimes, sometimes when I think of all the things you've done to hurt me, I look at your life and I say, Karma.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Anywho, also I think you should look at that as the first of like, what did I do to bring all that upon myself?

SPEAKER_01 21:47

What did you do to bring that upon yourself?

SPEAKER_02 21:50

You. You guys that's the word I just said.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Talking to a parrot? Like who? An owl, actually. Um, also and I'm just so excited. Taylor Swift is my queen. And she has announced that she has an original song for Toy Story 5 that is coming out on June 19th. We are also not sponsored by Toy Story or Disney or anything, or Taylor Swift, because she hasn't even looked at the story.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

I wonder if you like at the very beginning, we should just do like a disclaimer of like, we are currently not sponsored. And then after like a blanket cover.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

It's okay. We just sometimes have to do it. But um we all know that she is a the master of like Easter eggs and such. And so a lot of people are speculating that um we are going to see Jesse, the doll Jesse from Toy Story 2, um apparently maybe reunite with her original owner. Because if you know anything about Toy Story, she was left behind on accident, whatever have you, lived this life of feeling unwanted. Sounds like most sounds like most LGBTQ people.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Happy Pride. But if you've listened to any of the conspiracy theories about that, the girl who left her was is believed to have actually been Andy's mom. If you look in the flashback, the hat she had matches Jesse's. Jesse has like the braided. Okay, and so Andy has that hat.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

He doesn't have a hat like Woody. So let's get one thing straight into things gay. If that were the case, you don't think that as Jesse's as Andy's playing with Jesse, the mom wouldn't have been like, oh my god, I had a Jesse doll growing up. Or is she that oblivious? Well, first off, they're all oblivious because they don't notice these dolls are talking. Let's start there.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

But like, come on, like she's probably a hardworking mom affording for a house because you never hear anything about Andy's dad.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

That's true. You don't hear anything about I've never thought about that.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

So, for all we know, she was just working all the time and like, oh hey, I'm literally seeing toys come to life. Maybe I'm just that sleep deprived.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

I've never thought about Andy's dad. But I don't really think about straight men like that, so that's fine. Sorry. I'm so sorry to the to the one to the one straight listener.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Anywho. But yeah, like there is no mention about that. And then yeah, the whole conspiracy theory of the hat and how, like, hey, maybe it was actually Andy's mom. Well, why would Andy have a ma or had a hat that was based off Jesse if he also didn't have the Jesse doll?

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Well, that's neither.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

And that's all from the first movie.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

And it's all speculation until it happened. So maybe we'll get shocked on June 19th because I am gonna go watch that.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

I am going like I'm just so number four first. You know three for me was it was perfect. It ended beautifully, and it was good. Like as a millennial that grew up with it, three was perfect, and then I saw four was come out, and like, okay, what are we doing now?

SPEAKER_01 25:31

No, and let me tell you, four was not like it was definitely like grasping at straws. I don't think that like it felt like the garbage spoon thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, with Forky.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Oh, okay. I saw a little bit of that, and I'm just like, I have no idea why this is happening.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

It just felt like there was just no original thought to and there was like multiple movies during this time that Disney was releasing that I just it like felt like it wasn't a well thought out idea.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

Just like a movie mill, just we're pumping them out, yeah. Yeah, yeah, like saying how they didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

We're just trying to like like do a catch, like a cash grab on like a couple things because like they released Toy Story 4, and then I think another one was uh Strange World, which had like no it had no marketing whatsoever. It just was like in move in theaters, and then all of a sudden it's on Disney Plus, which I think was like and there was a lot of speculation about that because it is that when Wish came out, which Wish didn't really have a ton of of like exposure either, and then I I saw Wish and I was like, eh, like it was okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

That was like with the evil wizard guy, right there.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I liked the animation in Wish because it was like kind of different, but the the story was just like okay, like it honestly, what was like 20 2018, 2019 when we got like frozen to Coco, um god, what's another one though? Like it just inside out, like that, like that era was just like so good, and then it just kind of got lost, lost in the sauce. But now, I don't know, I'm a little well, maybe it's because Taylor Swift's gonna be a part of it. I'm a little hopeful about Toy Story 5.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

I won't lie, so as someone who's completely oblivious to life half the time, uh, I don't know. Uh when I saw like a little ad of like, oh my god, Taylor Swift's coming out with an album, I'm like, guys, it stands for Toy Story. Like, even fucking click.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

And that's how you know you're not a Swifty. But that also knows that level, that's also how you know that you are sane. Because I'm telling you, the moment that like the countdown came up, and I was like, oh my god, I like referenced the music video, and then I referenced the dress that she wore like three months ago. Then I referenced like whatever. Like I was like, and I I do really well at putting some of these Easter eggs together. But a bitch is busy, so I let the other Swifties figure it out, and I just rake in the like the content. I'm just like, yes, thank you so much. But full circle, back to it. We also think that the Easter egg is from her interview, I think, with like Times or New York, whatever, where she's because they're about to induct her in the songwriter Hall of Fame, which how it's taken so long, I am unsure. Oh my god, you're on you're up to date on something.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Probably something because, like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

And that's the shade. Um, but she like describes how like when she started with country, like she's like, so for example, like let's picture young girl learns a lesson in like the first core in the first verse, chorus is like mom teaching her something, whatever have you. Second, like the next the next verse is like she's a little bit older, like um new problems. Putting into practice a little bit of what, like, whatever you go to the chorus again, and then the end, it's like she's like teaching her daughter, like something. And then you like end like the last line of the last line of the song is like the first verse of the song, or like the first line of the song, but it just has a completely different meaning after like going through like that. Oh, that reminds me, what was that song?

SPEAKER_02 30:08

It was featuring marshmallow, marshmallow, but uh it was happier. Is this the music video is about little the dad gets her dog gets his daughter a little dog and grows up and like best thing in her life, and then passes. No, no. Well, I mean, it was probably 14 years old at that point.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Uh still a dog dying.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

And then when it's like her daughter's age, her grandpa comes in and brings a but a little puppy and the bow matches like her daughter's favorite color. Oh, and then it's kind of just like, okay, we're restarting this, like, hey, this is the most wonderful thing in my life, but then like the old song's like, I wish I could be happier and such.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:59

But you know, when you get an animal, like when it's your first animal, like you have that wonderful, blissful ignorance of they're gonna live for forever, but you only get that once.

SPEAKER_01 31:15

Growing up, a lot of my dogs ran away. Did they really? Um, the one dog that I absolutely loved, his name was Philip, and he was a chihuahua, but he was so smart that man that little little pup could like sense energy. Because whenever my dad, my mention that was just its anxiety. No, well, when my mom and dad like separated or whatever, when this man would even just park his car, dog would start barking and would not stop barking until this man left. And I looked at my mom and I said, What more what more of a sign do you need?

SPEAKER_02 32:07

So, like, I'm sorry, if a dog don't like you, I'm not gonna like you either. And that's a pod combo.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Um that is a way of life, but back to Taylor Swift, the name of the song is I knew it, I knew you. I knew it, comma, I knew you, and I already know that it's gonna fuck me up. Like, I'm making the speculation that it's like if it has to do with Jesse, oh my god, what if that is the full like what if it is his mom? And when she noticed Jesse was like, oh, I I had one like that before. But then she like sees something on Jesse the doll that is like only she would have left, and it's like, oh my god, I knew it. I knew it was the oh my god. I'm just here rewriting Toy Story 5 without even knowing what it's about. But, anyways, um, I just know it's gonna fuck me up, and I'm here for it, and I'm gonna be in theaters, and I I I'm gonna literally, all those kids that are in theaters, I'm like, shut up, because it's the same thing I did in Toy Story 3 when I thought it was over.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Oh, when they were in the the trash cranger.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Yes, I was like crying. Little kids next to me remember.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

Oh, what are you?

SPEAKER_01 33:28

And I'm like, you don't know I grew up.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

I was emotionally wrecked, and then at the end, I was wrecked all over again. Because I I'm like it's maybe it's because of Toy Story and being a millennial. Like, I probably should talk to a therapist about it, but I have like a really strong emotional connection to like the stuffed animals that I had growing up. Like, I still have actually quite a lot of them, and now I've no, it's but you know what's funny?

SPEAKER_01 33:55

So I actually had a Jesse doll. Like I'm not gonna lie, I think if I remember correctly, I think I I was like I was like eight or nine, and I like stole it from somebody. That tracks. We're not gonna get into that right now, anyways. Um, but no, I had an actual Jesse doll, and I would carry it.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

You did, but you acquired one.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

So I acquired one. Oh my god. I don't even remember who the fuck that that was. I didn't care. We're not brands anymore. Now we know why. Anyways, um, I still I have once once uh a happenstance, twice is a coincidence, and third times a pattern. Well, I haven't stolen anything since, and I'll stand on that. I'll stand on that.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

My uh zip fizz here. Again, not sponsored.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

We're gonna have we'll talk about that in July. It's the month of June. We should be prideful, we should be happy. Anyways, um, no, but yeah, I had a Jesse doll, and I like undid her braid, and then I would like give her different braids, and then I would like tie her up, and then my mom questions like you would tie her up, like tie her hair up in like different like a bun. I would make I would make dresses out of napkins for her because she just I was like, you need to wear something different. Like today we're going to a ball, you can't wear that to the ball.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

Where was the question? Just where was the question?

SPEAKER_01 35:31

I don't know why my mom was like, and if you see episode episode one of the pride series, like you're gonna find out that like I was like, my mom was very dramatic when it came to like asking me if I was gay, and then I would just was like, I'm not gonna talk about this. But then years later, I like asked her and I go, Mom, mom, you knew you knew, and she goes, Of course I knew. You just didn't like nobody ever really wants to admit that.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

And I was like, Oh, I was like, okay. I was like, have you seen not another gay movie? Yes, over the top, you know, it can't be ridiculous. Like that just when what is it, Nico? I think is the main word. I don't remember the names. I don't remember. And he's just like, Mom, I'm gay. And she just stops playing the piano or something, and she looks right at him and goes, duh. And he's like, What do you mean, duh? And she's like, You're the only toddler I knew that would walk around in heels, and by your third birthday, you were like doing a oh, there he is, strike a pose. You're the only memorize the entire Madonna soundtrack or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Honestly, it's also like you're the only male soprano in the choir. Like, and then you hit puberty and then you were a tenor. Like, yeah, no, so can't relate, but what are you singing pretty high? I'm not a tenor though. Okay. That's for another that's for another conversation. But um, but yeah, so uh I want to talk about that a little bit because you you mentioned like you had a connection to Toy Story and you like really enjoyed it. In the the realm of like Disney, like what were other pivotal movies do you think for yourself? Definitely Lilo and Stitch.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

Uh and about Ohana and whatnot. Oh god, that didn't even start it. Because like especially as you know, as people that are gay and whatnot, or those who come out of just any kind of thing where you've had to lose family and then choose your own family. To me, it's like that that's on a whole different meaning of just like, no, family isn't forgotten kind of thing. And it's like your chosen family, even though like I have had chosen family I haven't talked to in several years, just like you know, taking us apart from each other. Uh we'll talk like once every 10 years, and it's like there's been no change in relationship, and just like the hey, we'll catch up, but that relationship still hasn't changed. And yeah, just yeah, when it comes to that whole chosen family, it's like, hey, that literally is what like I kind of picture the movie. It's hey, Stitch is an alien, you know, their family went through their own, like quite you know, detrimental trauma, and like Lelo's life has just been like a construction of chosen family.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

Yeah. I Lilo and Stitch was definitely big for me because same thing. It was like when he's just like bad, when he's still doing bad or whatever have you, and she's like Lilo is still just trying to see the best in Stitch, and then like at the at the Like if she even says, like, if you want to go, you can go, yeah, like everybody leaves, but I remember everybody. Yeah. But it's also it was like I would say if we put it under the lens of like someone that's LGBTQ, like whatever have you, it's like uh if you're in stitches shoes, uh you just kind of come to the realization that like maybe me leaving is just gonna be easier for everyone else. So I'm gonna just leave. And it's like it's so disappo like it's so disappointing to have to get to that uh that point.

SPEAKER_02 39:42

I feel a little bit different on that. Like, not from Stitch's perspective, but from Lilo, because Lelo is always herself. And like, especially that moment when he takes out or he's like wanting to take off, and he takes the ugly duckling book, and she goes just like, you can leave if you want to, but I'll remember everybody as you know, like someone who like, hey, you come out, you'll remember the people that left you. Just you will, especially when it's family, and you know, those bonds are either become tattered or just completely disintegrated. You're the one that remembers, and you're the one that carries that pain. And all you're trying to do is just be yourself.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

Oh, and honestly, when you like think about it, leaving is easy is the easy part. Like, though the like people left behind are the ones that are like having a deal or pick up the pieces that broke or shattered. But yeah, so what other movies are really good? From like the original princess movies, who was your favorite princess? Did you have one? Were you that gay? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 41:03

Because mine we watched like a lot of off Disney, so like Swan Princess, Anastasia, uh don't know where your mind went there. This counter Disney off Disney or a Jason's like DreamWorks, Pixar.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

Okay. Well, Pixar is still Disney now.

SPEAKER_02 41:25

Before, before it was a part of Disney.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

There was a Pixar before Disney. I thought Pixar was a subset.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

Like it wasn't actually part of Disney at the time, then it got bought out. I mean, Disney owns like everything now.

SPEAKER_01 41:39

And like the sun doesn't set on Disney. It literally is all over the world. But um, I know like my Did you watch the Swan Princess? I did. I just I mean it just wasn't Disney.

SPEAKER_02 41:53

I was good. I find it surprising that you like didn't like really like it, especially with the um Jean Baum and Speed. The Frog and the Turtle, and they were bantered with Puffin.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

I need to watch it again because it's been a long time.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

It's so you.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

The only non-Disney like princess that I fucked with was Anastasia. That movie, so good. I I loved it so much. It obviously has nothing to do with the real Anastasia, but I love that so much. Like the actual, even though now Disney does own Fox, and so there was this whole debate when they bought it, and they're like, so is she a Disney princess or whatever have you? And it is the same argument that I'm going to make that they made when they bought um George Lucas films, and then Star Wars is now whatever. These people were not written under the guise of Disney, so they are not Disney princesses. They are now just owned by Disney. Leia's a gray area because she was a princess. But she was not owned by Disney at the time that she was created.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

No, but she literally was a princess, and now she's Disney, so she is a stretch. It is a princess that is owned by Disney. She is a Disney princess.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

She's a princess that is owned by Disney. But Rey, for example, in the most recent Star Wars, is considered a Disney princess. Like she's considered because anytime you're like face character, whatever. Which is it's a long story, but she's considered like oh my god, whatever, because she was created after it was owned. So no, Anastasia's not a Disney princess.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

Leia died when she was still part of Disney.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

She wasn't created. She was a princess then. She was not created for that intention, anyways. I get very passionate about this subject.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

Yeah, you're very uh speaking of Anastasia, you're very Bartok.

SPEAKER_01 44:08

Yes. Oh my god, that was like the best character there. Comedic relief. He was he was like he was almost in like most scenes, even if he wasn't there. Like it just was great. I love that little little bat, little blind bat. Um but yeah. So I also liked you know, that's the one thing about like a good Pixar Disney film is that it like really does tend to tug at the heartstrings a little bit. I like like Inside Out, fantastic. Talked about it on the last podcast. Um I like A Bug's Life. I think it's great. I love The Bug's Life. Yeah. You know what movie I haven't seen? Not Pixar, I haven't seen Fox and the Hound.

SPEAKER_02 45:02

And I like everyone's like I've ruined it by making a second one. Oh because they made them kids again. Oh what?

SPEAKER_04 45:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Oh, okay. I oh, so they grow up. I I wouldn't know. I haven't even seen it. Like, and I want to, I actually want to go and watch like every Disney film from like the beginning of time until like now, just over this I should have done that over COVID, but like I I just want to do that slowly over time. I don't want to do that alone because then I feel like that's creepy and weird. Wait, what? I need to find someone to like wants to watch that with me.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

The Fox and the Hound? I love that movie.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

No, I'm talking about all the Disney movies from beginning to now. Like every single like every single Disney animations film, yes.

SPEAKER_02 45:57

Oh good God.

SPEAKER_01 45:58

I know. It's a it's a feat. That's a years-long commitment. That that is, but I still want to do it.

SPEAKER_02 46:11

I'm still stuck on a fox and the hound because that was an emotional. We were emotionally so unregulated growing up, like the movies that we had. Every parent was either Fox and the Hound like any Disney movie from Bambi 83 to like 94. Someone's parent was always dying. The land before time.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Oh, I don't want to talk about Ducky or the voice actor of Ducky. That was very sad. Oh, right. I do think that there are cursed films out there, for sure. Like, I I want to be an actor. Everyone knows this, but I could never do a horror film. I I nope. Why? I worked for Jamie Lee Curtis. Um, I feel like you open the door to spirits and whatever to enter.

SPEAKER_02 47:08

Well, it would depend on the depending on the horror film.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

I just wouldn't be good at it. I have to lie, I I'm good at everything I do. But I just wouldn't no.

SPEAKER_02 47:24

Humble brag. Oh yeah. Humble.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

Oh, I'm a humbling person.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

Careful. You put yourself up on that still too high, you're gonna get a little dizzy.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

Notice how I said I'm a humbling person. Not a humble person. Honestly. Um, but no, yes, I want to be, I do, I want to be an actor, but I just I just a horror movie.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

What if it was a comedy horror movie?

SPEAKER_01 47:57

No, because then that's stupid. And okay, I will say growing up, being the big kid growing up, I was like at my heaviest 320 pounds. I I just hated the idea that like as the heavy person, I was never gonna get like a serious role or be a lead. I was always gonna be the funny sidekick, like whatever have you. And um it has created this like not wanting to be like a side character. Like anytime I audition for something, I like I will accept any role, but I go with the intention of like, I want the lead. I want the lead. I want it to show that I can be serious. I I'm not the thinnest person, but you know what? That's fine. We can still be serious and do serious acting or whatever. But also over time, I've just been like, you know what? When it comes down to it, if I want to be in a film, I'll be the funny guy because I was still in the film. So I don't care. I'll be I'll I'll say every joke that you want now. Things have definitely changed over time.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

And I mentioned a paying gig.

SPEAKER_01 49:16

It's a pain gig, but yes, and so I think like but what is a horror film? Oh my god, especially like recently, I just saw the movie I think it's obsessed or obsession. Have you heard anything about it? I think I saw part of a trailer. Is that the Emily Blunt? Did you say Emily Blunt? No, that's oh, I want to see that one too. Not this movie. Um Disclosure Day or something like that, is I think the butt no, this movie. I went with one of um one of my other friends to the film and he said, every time I would look over, you had this like it looked like a look of disgust on your face, or like a what the fuck is going on? And I said, Yes, that was not supposed to be hidden. I needed everyone to know that I was like, what the heck? So essentially without like giving it away. No spoilers. No, I don't, I hate spoilers. I hate it. Um just like without giving anything away, it's like it's the the main character is essentially essentially makes a wish that the person that he likes to like him back. But there's like there's like deeper layers into this and truly there's like a couple of themes that I like pulled out from this film, and it's like one, be careful what you wish for. Um, two, if you have to like make a wish t sh for someone to like you or whatever, then that's not that's not true love.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

Like, that's not it's giving very love potion number nine vibes. I've never seen that. Wonderful movie.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Okay. I okay. You know what? One of the it's we've been really. We've been talking about a lot of movies on this episode. Anyways, movies are good. But yeah, so it's just it uh I even had another friend text me today when they said they told me, Oh, we're gonna go watch the new movie Obsession or Obsessed or whatever, because so many people are raving about it. And also, shout out to the director who I think is under like 27. So, and then the uh another movie that I want to go see this weekend is Backrooms when that director's like 20 or 21, and it has already reached the like that sounds either like that sounds like a a title for either a porno or the life of like a frontline customer service person. Oh, that's a good that that's a good one. Like you go to the back and like you just fucking complain. Scream, yeah. I love that. That's actually wow, somebody picked this up and put Jed's name on it. Um, but no, so but yeah, so essentially, like I had I was told, oh, I'm gonna go watch this film, and I went, hmm. It's wild. And literally, don't they we don't text message or whatever. I'm driving home tonight, and I just get a message that says, I don't think I'm the same after watching that movie. And I said, tell you, tell you like it just it's really good, but just be ready. Just be ready. Um, yeah. I don't even know how to segue that into Prime. No idea.

SPEAKER_02 53:14

There's no way so fucking far off track. How did we go? I thought we were bringing it back with Lilo and Stitch, and then Yeah, 100%. Out in fucking left field, and now we're not even playing baseball anymore.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

No, I actually We're at the ballet. Why does it have to be the ballet? So because it's Pride Month? Try to say something?

SPEAKER_02 53:40

No, I was just thinking of one, the song, but also something in a completely different direction of any form of sport. Golf. Because we're nowhere in the realm of pride. We're literally talking about horror movies. That's true. That's true. I mean unless we want to talk about why there would not be a gay man in a horror movie. Why would it be? The moment he'd get a look at the criminal, because they always make him hot.

SPEAKER_00 54:05

Be like, oh no, I fell. Oh, what am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 54:13

No, scary killer man.

SPEAKER_00 54:15

No, don't stab me with that big weapon.

SPEAKER_01 54:20

Knife. Okay, don't follow. I mean, a knife is a knife, but like that weapon of yours, yeah. No. You're um yes and no. Like, oh now, so big, I'm gonna be bludgeoned to death. Okay, and now we're back to pride. So now that you've come full circle, uh. I've I've had to say that a few times. But, anyways, so pride, we're here. Hi, gay. We love all the corporations and now love us for our money, and then come July 1st, they're gonna be like, who the fuck are you?

SPEAKER_02 55:11

Um but not absolute. Absolute's been with us since the beginning. That's true. Again, no sponsorship, but I don't drink anymore. Thank you. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

I don't I don't drink anymore. I'm trying to think. There is no restaurant, but like I think there's anti-LGBTQ. There's anti-LGBTQ, Chick-fil-A, nothing like the bigot chicken. Um but sadly, I think Home Depot. Yeah, I go to Lowe's and learned that recently. That was a huge thing. Oh, you just you can't you can't cruise the stalls anymore at Home Depot. Um No, never heard of that.

SPEAKER_02 55:58

No, I've heard of it, but no, I've never done it, no.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

No. I'm Anywho. Sorry, I don't live your lifestyle. I I've heard through the grapevine. I've heard through the woodworks. Get it?

SPEAKER_02 56:11

I bet you did hear through the woodworks.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

Home Depot would would. Anyways, um, are you excited for Pride? Do you would like Pride, June? Does it do anything for you? Does it tickle your fancy?

SPEAKER_02 56:27

Uh I am excited for Pride. Um exprited. I am excited for the parade and just have a good time, you know. Very like just that wonderful sense of community that you get during that time.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

Oh, yeah, and then I hate them afterwards. It's like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

You're just like the corporations.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

And then I'm like, oh, god, I hate that bitch.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

I love you.

SPEAKER_01 56:51

No, die. And then it's like, that's the fucking ugliest side I've ever seen. Yeah. No. Um, no, I'm just joking. I just I mean, there's definitely a few people. I'm not gonna lie. Like, let's be honest. I think we all have a few. Let's be honest. I think we all have a few people that like we are cordial, but they're not invited to the cookout.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Like, yeah, but that can be any given day.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

Also, I might like some someone on Monday, and then like Wednesday, it's like, I need a break.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

You mean like last week and the week before? And the week before that, the week before that. I never said when the break was over.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

I just but have you done any other Pride besides Spokane Pride?

SPEAKER_02 57:42

Uh, I've gone to Seattle Pride a few times, uh, Portland Pride, almost made it down for San Diego Pride one year. But nah. I don't think so. Just spend most of them up in the in the Northwest.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

I've only done Spokane in Orlando. And Orlando, it's like I think after I moved from Orlando to Spokane the first year I went back, I was not planning on going back for Pride. I go back every October uh because I'd like to do Halloween horror nights at Universal Studios again, not sponsored. I like to go see like some of my best friend, like, um, and then I like went and like it was so funny because this guy was like, Hey, I'm throwing like a little like kit together. Do you want to come? And I was like, Oh, for and they're like, Pride? And I was like, Oh, that's happening. And they're like, Yeah, and I said, sure. And I went and I was like, and then every year after that, it just I would so happen to land my trip exactly on uh one of the Pride weekends. Uh this year that will not be the case because I am going to Italy and Greece this year during October. Oh. So I don't know, maybe they'll celebrate Pride Weeks. Struggle. Um, but I am still trying to make a trip down to Orlando in September because I still want to do Halloween horror nights because over there in Orlando at Disney and Universal, you start celebrating Halloween in like mid-August. So yeah. But no, those are the only two prides I've been to. I mean, Spoken Pride's Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

Afterthought. What did you think? Celebrating Halloween. I'm like, I thought you did every day. You look in the mirror and scream!

SPEAKER_01 59:40

But wow. That was good. Um, I think the fact that it's an afterthought made it less funny. But if you would have said that, clocked it and wow.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

And then I was like, I don't know, maybe that would be mean. And then I thought.

SPEAKER_01 59:58

Do you know me?

SPEAKER_02 59:59

Why?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:01

Yeah, do you know me? I that's the kind of that's the kind of shit that I want. I want to be degraded so I can fight back.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:10

Oh, you're gonna humiliation kink. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

Oh god, when you live my life, that's what it is. No, it's so funny because at work we do these things called stress tests on like our our mechanical systems or whatever. So we have to kind of put them under like heavy pressure. And so someone was like, Oh, we're gonna move, we're gonna push back the stress test, like to, I think actually tomorrow. Um, is everyone okay with that? And this is like a meeting with like like senior leadership, like my my managers, like whatever, right? And I'm just standing there and I'm like, and I literally, I don't even know why this came out of my mouth. And I go, I said, that's perfectly fine to move that, but when you live in my world, every day is a stress test. Everybody just stared at me, and I was like, Yep, and I just said that. I will send myself out. And I said, and this is why I live in a perpetual state of anxiety. Because sometimes my mouth is too quick for my brain, and it just says something. And I just said, All right, let's clap it out on three. One, two, three. Like, thank you so much. We're all leaving, and so just that has become like the joke now. They're like, You stressed today? And I said, Every day. When you stay, when you stay stressed, you don't gotta get stressed.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:44

Like, I don't know if that's just a a joke or a question or something, as opposed to like a check-in point of like, hey, are you just stressed today? Or is there something that maybe we need to talk about? Is there more going on?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:56

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:58

No, it's more like a let's do a mental health check.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I definitely um I brought that upon myself, and it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:09

Um you should have just you know been like that was an inside thought.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

Uh yeah, no, I should have just been like, just kidding, like something. I don't know. You guys believe it worse. I was like, you guys believe me? They were like, no, you're not okay. No. Well, first off, I never claimed to be. That's the problem. That's probably what they were thinking. They probably were like, fuck, this is the guy that we promoted. I was like, well, I was the personality hire, and the gay hire. So I I fulfilled two check mark boxes.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

Dual token.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:54

Correct. Um, and I'm Latino. There you go. It's like a triad of issues.

unknown 1:03:06

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:07

And this is why I go to therapy.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:09

Um why is being a Latino issue?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:16

Do you live in today's day and world the day and age?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:18

And then for you in regards to being a token.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:24

Do you live in today's day and age? I try not to. Yeah, no. I was like, stay inside the four walls of your home and you're fine. Like, you're fine. Um, no. Uh yeah, there's a couple things coming up for Pride. Are you gonna be doing kickball? Uh when is it? I never remember. Next Thursday.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:49

So not this coming next.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:52

Because this coming Friday is volleyball. Are you going to volleyball?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:57

Uh it will depend on how my shoulder's doing. You can go support.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

Cheers. I need support.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:08

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

And this is what he means. Like, you don't say these things at work.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:15

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:16

I'm not at work. We're working. I'm not at my main work. Okay. Um, when you're gay, you always put in work.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:27

Yeah, I'm not that good of a gay.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

You said it, not me.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:34

Um, others will say it too. Like, I'm it is a known fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:39

Um, but so yeah, so there's volleyball, kickball, parade. Man, it's gonna be busy. I have a wedding in I have a wedding coming up in Aug in September. Oh my god, I'm the man of honor, and I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:58

What does that have to do with Bride?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:00

Oh, I thought you were saying. Months away. No, I was just joking. No, I was just yeah. Um, have you ever like now you I think you're really good with some one-laners.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:12

Um, like once in all, it depends on how many times we divide it with a credit card.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:22

Exhibit A. No, so I was only kidding. So I was talking to uh one of my really good friends this morning because they sent me a video where they're talking about it said like, oh, earth signs saying it how it is. And then it says the next clip is like Aries also saying it how it is. And so I like responded and I told him, as a Taurus, you think you say it how it is, but an Aries. Like, actually says it how it is, right? And we like it must have triggered something because he was just like, we just have more tact when we deliver something or whatever. And I said, Do you have more tact, or is it like too polite that now it misconstrues like the message? Whereas I'm gonna just tell you, I don't mean to be rude, but if my directness comes out as rude, then okay, but I'm not gonna leave it up to interpretation. Like, I'm going to tell you how something is. And he just was he like went on. And then I I was like, it is 6 a.m. How bored do you have to be to spark a debate at 6 a.m.? Like, what are you doing? You're like, are you this bored? What time zone are they in? Hours. Oh, okay. Like, I don't know. And so then no, yeah. So I was like, first off, why the f you woke up and Joe's violence today? I mean, I do that on a daily, but anyways, um so then he goes, Well, if I'm a boring person, what does that say about you who wants to hang out with me? And immediately without a be I'm doing charity.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:23

Like sometimes you just want to feel brain dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:26

I'm just like I was like, um I choose to be around you because you make me feel better about myself. Are you kidding? I'm totally joking, and he's gonna listen to this and probably be so upset. But I don't know. Come at you later. Yeah, he was gonna be like, so you were talking about me, and I said, No names were dropped. But if the shoe fits, if the boot fits, lace it up and wear it. Lace it up, and that's a pod combo. Well, I think we have rambled on long enough. This conversation has gone everywhere and nowhere all at once. We're still getting the groove of it, we're still getting the hang of it. We are still gonna be doing uh episode two will be released next Monday of our That's a Pride combo series, and it is going to essentially be about it not being a phase. And I I talked about this on the last episode. I feel really bad for all of our bisexual friends out there because gay men do a disservice, or gay folks sometimes do a disservice in their walk towards being gay from being straight, where we're like, I'm like 80-20. Nope, I'm like 50-50. Nope, I'm like 2080, and you just nope, I'm actually 100% gay.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

I think the whole thing on that, but I uh by erasure is real.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

Like, there's no like even someone someone listened to the podcast and was like, oh, it's like really funny that you guys said that because I'm married to a man and I have kids with a man, whatever, but I'm bisexual, and everybody says, like, no, you're straight, and they're just like, Okay, sure, I guess like from the outside looking in, but I I'm still bisexual, I find both like both genders or whatever attractive, and so I think, and Robbie talks about this essentially, where in the not coming out fully, it's like okay, so then you're bi, and then when you finally do admit and accept fully that you are gay, it's like, oh, so then I would say that's a bit of a two-sided coin.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:59

Because like, I don't think the the slow come out is not just like, oh, I haven't just fully accepted it. Like, it could also just be like you're not in a safe environment, but you're trying to slowly come out without immediately putting a target on your back. Because like for myself, where I was like, mmm, it was not okay, but it's like, oh, but being bi was fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:24

I definitely think that that's accurate, and there is a safety mechanism like behind it as well. But I think two things can be true. You're you're doing it for safety or whatever have you, but that doesn't mean that people who are are fully by, and that's like, or how do you say that? That's a what is that like an oxymore, or it's like we're fully by, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:51

But um but like that's why I said, like, I think that's the other side of the coin. Like it's not a slow acceptance always, it's also safety.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:01

When you listen to Rob Rob and I's podcast episode, you also come to the realization, and I realize this in talking to him, is that we as uh LGBTQ people are kind of are always coming out. Like even when we meet someone and whatever, like if they don't suspect that we're gay, which is beyond me, but if they don't suspect that we're gay and then we have see a walk. Yeah, I was like, I've had people like, oh, I didn't know you were gay. What? Like, okay, are you blind? And and that's no offense to the blind community, but like, come on, yeah, a blind person would know I'm gay. That's how gay I am. But yes, so next week we're gonna be talking about, and that's obviously not just a phase, because I know I went through a moment where like, I'll get over this. Like, I'm not like no, I ultimately see myself marrying a woman. I literally said that growing up. I was like, no, I I I can experiment or whatever, but no, no, no, like I I'm gonna marry a woman, I'm gonna have kids, and yes, that's gonna be my life. Like it just uh and yeah, and that's not gonna happen well. First off, now now nobody wants to marry me, so there's not start there.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:29

Um, but then we're gonna say it, but then I slipped and fell on a pole, and before I knew it, I never wanted to get off.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:35

I didn't say that. Because that's what I bet. No, it doesn't you should have just said no, uh, but yes, so that's episode two, then we go into and that's survival mode, because I do think that unfortunately we do pick up some toxic traits in trying to protect ourselves, then we go into, and that's healing, and finally that's who we've always been. And I'm just really excited for those um next couple of episodes. This week we're doing this double drop. We're in our little Taylor Swift era where we're um I just really wanted to not confuse the listeners because now it was Robbie and I on a podcast and are like, you went through another host? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:23

The conditions in which you just really wanted to talk about Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:26

Don't even no, I was also like, they're like probably these people are like, what conditions do you have these people working in that they leave after one episode? And I said, You'll never know because they signed an NDA. So that part. And that's a pod combo. But thank you. And once again, if you are not watching us on our Patreon, you're only getting half the story because I do so many facial expressions, and you are missing the bags under Jed's eyes right now. Probably.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:01

I know I'm ready for another trip.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:04

There you go. Um, but follow us on Instagram at that's a pod combo. And we are, I'm still trying to get a hang of creating a TikTok for an That's a Pod combo. Um, I made the mistake of creating the TikTok, but because I was trying to be all like, oh, emotional, whatever, I was like, May 18th is its birthday of 2026, but because it reads it as a child, it like is the most restricted TikTok ever. Private. You can't even like comment, or no one can comment on anything, no one can even see the videos. And I was like, well, that doesn't work. So then I finally got it to work, but now it doesn't work on my phone. I I'm figuring it out. I have never felt like such a millennial.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:56

You sound like a Gen X trying to open a PDF and 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:00

I was like, I was like, what the what how are the youngins doing it nowadays? My goodness. I they it takes them like two minutes and they 3,000 views in like the first five minutes of them dropping. I'm like, what are you what are you doing? Um, but a TikTok is coming, hopefully, to get the word out. Tell your friends, please continue to listen. And even if it's my solid, like 20 folks that are listening, thank you so much. I love doing this. Jed, I love terrorizing Jed and making him stay up to all hours of the night just to get this done. Um, but yes, Jed, do you have anything before we go?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:45

No, I don't, other than you know, the bags under my eyes.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:50

And we should let him go for the bags under my eyes. So puffy, look at these. But, and that's that's a pod combo for another day. But all right. Thanks for listening. Goodbye.