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S3E2 Masks We Wear
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"Is it that we 'act' like different people depending on where we are, or is it just different sides of our personality coming out?"
Welcome to Life Workshop, where we discuss the forgotten basics. My name is Mo, and today's subject that we are going to be talking about is about the masks that we wear at different occasions, different circumstances. Normally we behave a bit differently. But at what point is this a good thing or a bad thing? And the guest speaker that I have with me, her real name is Jill. But because I cannot disclose that, and it should be in incognito, so you will not see her face, but we are going to call her Keller for today. First of all, thanks, Keller, for joining me.
SPEAKER_02Hello, it's nice to see you.
SPEAKER_00Of course, you only see me, but you know, I know it is nice.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I know I look a bit more shiny and red. I'm not normally this red. I'm not red, actually. I don't know why this camera does that. And I'm more shiny because today, for the first time, I went for a facial. And you know, I'm more shiny. Glowing.
SPEAKER_02You have to use the word glowing.
SPEAKER_00Oh, glowing. You might notice a halo around me too, but you know what? But anyway, so back to this uh subject of the mask that we wear. The way that we came uh across this topic, it was that I was reading an article that I shared it with Keller. That at different occasions, obviously, we behave differently. And is this the right thing or the wrong thing? And you know, uh, at what point really, what but how we are looking at these things. And I know that Keller at the same time, you know, uh shared a story with me that one of her profs had talked about this subject, which I personally have my own take on it. But I'll let you, Keller, to just uh take on this this part, you know, that what did your prof say?
SPEAKER_02Okay, so my professor in my sociology class had kind of talked about how in different situations we wear different masks, and his example was he's a father as well as a professor. And you know, he was saying he doesn't dress the same or talk the same as he would to his students, as he does to his kids, and you know, I think I personally do that too. Like obviously, there's your work voice, you know, the customer service voice people like to say. Um, I definitely have a customer service voice, it's a lot nicer. Um, yeah, but no, I definitely don't talk to my parents in my customer service voice. And as soon as I read the article, that was what I thought of. And I thought, wow, that's kind of funny that I read the article very close to when uh my professor was telling me that.
SPEAKER_00One thing that I would like to ask uh to add in here, when we say that, I don't think that you are wearing different masks when we are in different circumstances, it's just us in a different circumstance. When I say we are wearing a mask, is when we act dishonest. And we act in a way that we are not really. Yes, when I'm at home, I dress differently. When I go to bed, you know, I go in my underwear, but I cannot go to work in my underwear. It is not that I'm a different person, I'm in a different environment.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00When I go to the gym, I dress differently. At a bar setting, the discussion changes. So I don't think it is that you are wearing a mask. I think I want to be clear on those things. It is just us, the same identity, hopefully, but from different angles in different circumstances. At the same time, if we talk to different people, we cannot be as open or as honest as you know, somebody that you don't know. Um, when you are in a work environment, definitely you have to behave a bit differently. But again, this is not putting a mask. When I use that term, is as I said, when I'm acting dishonest, which, for example, I tell say something that I don't believe in for whatever reason it wants to be. For example, when, yeah, as a customer service, you know, you have to, you know, if you get a customer that is bad and you know difficult to deal with, you cannot just go yell at them and tell them, just fuck yourself. Yeah, you may want to do that, but you can't. And at times, actually, it's not such a bad thing because if you understand, okay, if I have to learn how to handle difficult people, let's say at work, you can use that in a normal life too. That when you handle, you know, when you deal with difficult people, again, use that, you know, way that you have learned it at work. So it's not such a bad thing when we have something that pushes us to act differently. It's not necessarily bad. That is where, for example, I say, yes, at different circumstances, because of the need, because of the situation the way that it is, yes, we have to behave differently. One more thing that I can add is at the end of the day, we all we have some rough edges. We cannot be just exposing our rough edges all the time. We can't. If we do, we cannot have a society. The reason we can live together is because we compromise. However, at one point it becomes too much. And that point, how do we decide that? Like, for example, some people that they work in a are in a work environment or in a relationship or with friends, that they don't feel themselves, they feel out of place, and then it starts to add up. Now, somehow, sometimes we can change if we choose to and become it. For example, then we go act as a customer service, we become a customer service person, then we learn you know how to handle difficult people, but it becomes a part of us at one point, versus I'm just doing it at work, but as soon as I'm off duty, I'm the real me. And it's not, I think, something that we can be proud of necessarily, as a that is called maturity. Anyway, I have this rule. I say, if you can't flush it, you can't pee in it. What do I mean by that? Well, yes, at times you use the washroom, but there is a location for it, and there is a time. You cannot behave the same way everywhere, you cannot do that the same way, and a child that does that, a baby does does that because baby is immature. When we mature up, I think we have to have some sort of a control and boundaries, and it's not such a bad thing after all. Am I making sense or do you want to are making sense?
SPEAKER_02No, I'm just like listening intently. I like that analogy. That was funny. I liked that. Yeah, I think sometimes they can definitely blend, like, like as you say, like it's all you, you know, just in different situations. But sometimes when I for me personally, um, when I'm doing one, say I'm in retail, right? My customer service for so long, and then I get off work and you know, I go order something, or someone says, enjoy your movie, and you say thanks, you two to the worker, right? Like it's kind of like them blending, and I find that sometimes they blend a little too much, and then I I don't even know if I'm making sense right now. Um like I find sometimes I need to kept the keep them separate because otherwise that was just a silly mistake, right? But I make those silly mistakes more often, and you know, maybe I'm acting the way I act in front of my friends, um, but to my parents. And you know, like sometimes that's not appropriate depending on what situation you're in. And so I do like to keep them separate and think of them as things that I can take off and put on, but I do like, yeah, the way that you said that they are all a part of me, because I hadn't fully thought that way before, but it makes sense because it's all with me all the time. It's I'm not just leaving it at work, I do take it with me.
SPEAKER_00And remember one thing, you know, you uh made a point of this that you reminded me. You I would say it's a good starting point to be honest and don't lie and don't act, don't perform. And then, so for example, you said that you know, when you're with your friends, you behave in a certain way, but you go home, you know, and you just do that. I would recommend that you come from a point of honesty and be sincere, but you are gonna screw up, for sure. You are gonna screw up, but then you will learn at what point and where you should maybe behave a bit differently. But if you start going too fast into you know performing differently, which you don't know how the outcome is gonna be, then you become a performer, you become, you become not real. It will come across at one point. So, what I'm trying to say again, children, when they grow up, they are very much themselves. Normally they are very honest, they say stuff that they should not say. But over time they learn it that you know, at one point, to be too honest is not a very good thing, it's not the right time. Um, and when I say that, I don't mean to be dishonest, but simply you don't want to go tell somebody, hey, what happened? Why you're so you know ugly today. But you're not gonna tell them, oh, you look very beautiful, you don't have to.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Again, there are odd cases that if somebody's feeling terrible needs a compliment. I don't know, you can go make a white lie. But for the most part, I would say just be real. And because then there are lots of consequences, and this is something that is a new trend. Um, I I think probably you will agree with me that, for example, people are just too nice, and nice is not kind though. There is a huge difference. Divorce, they say things that they don't believe in. We had a conversation that you said that you knew somebody that, for example, his friend wanted had a business idea, and then he knew that that's a very bad idea, but he wanted just to be nice and you know, said that, oh, that's a very good thing, you should do that. Yeah, that's just being dishonest.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If you don't know, you can say, I don't know. If you know it's wrong, I would say it's not a bad idea to tell the person that I'm not sure if it's the best idea that you know, which it happened to myself. Actually, I had a friend of mine, she wanted to do, you know, start a business. And I said, I said that's a very bad idea. And I had my reasoning. I have my own business, you know. I have a little bit, you know, familiarity with this. And then I challenged her and she got mad at me. She said, Mo, you should support me. I said, if you're gonna jump off the bridge, I'm not gonna kind of say that that's awesome, you should do that. I have been the real friend. And to be honest, even to this date, I don't know if she appreciated my feedback or not. She never started the business, which I think that was a very good idea for her. But again, I don't know if she understood that and if she realized it, and she never told me. But again, at the end of the day, I prefer to be honest versus to say, oh, that's a very good idea, you should do that. While I know it is not. So, again, when it comes to the honesty, it has a again, it doesn't mean that you have to go tell people, but sometimes you have to. I said, jumping off the bridge is not a good idea. So you're not gonna encourage them if you're not prepared for doing a business or for some you're making mistakes, and I could be wrong too, but I'm honest with my feelings and my thoughts. So you challenge the person, and that's not a bad idea. One more thing I'd like to ask when we are honest, we are gonna show our flaws. When we show our flaws, at times people they point them out, but when we fake it all the time, they won't know who the real person is, nor do we. And if we don't know, then we don't know what to fix. So it has a lot of other, I don't know, consequences to it. And to be honest, the whole thing boils down to one basic thing just be honest as much as possible and kind, not necessarily just nice. So that's one of the things that I think in today's world I have noticed it a lot more. Among the immigrants, I have noticed that's not as much. They're a lot more upfront, they say it as is, and sometimes it comes across harsh, and sometimes it is. Sometimes it is. You know, I'm not saying necessity that's the best. But I think in the society, one thing that I have noticed, and you will see me saying this again and again, we have become like a pendulum. From one extreme, we go to the other extreme. We don't think that no, no, no, this makes a difference, make a change, but the change does it make sense and how far we want to go. And that is why that we just, as I said, we go from one extreme to the other one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Do you want to say something?
SPEAKER_02I do. I actually have a question. Um so when you were saying that you found that immigrants um don't do that as much, like they're not um they're more direct. Yes, they're more direct. Did you find that when you came to Canada you started being less direct? Because I find that when I go, yeah, yeah. I always find that when I go to different areas, maybe it's like respect for culture or something, but I always like try to adapt what they're doing. Maybe it's just the mask that I'm putting on, I don't know. But yeah, I always try to find that I'm doing what they're doing more than what I'm used to.
SPEAKER_00Remember, I normally say that the reality doesn't change, the fact of life is stay the same. So, for example, sometimes we behave in a certain way. Right now, for example, in this era, Allah saw people, as I said, you know, they talk very nice, you know, every time. Oh, I love your shirt. You have a beautiful hair. Oh my god, you're so smart. We give compliments, which at one point becomes useless because we get so many compliments that it doesn't have value anymore.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Am I making sense there?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it does.
SPEAKER_00And then at one point we just go the other way. Now don't give compliments. That's it, it's just a pendulum thing. And uh, and again, in the for myself, yes, when I came, actually, I was told even to this day, because I'm I'm careful that I don't change as much. I don't give compliments if I don't mean it. And that is why actually some friends they know that if I say something, they take it for serious, you know, because I just give the compliments only when it's well deserved. Otherwise, I won't. And one mistake that again, of course, this is a kind of a different subject. We think that we should be the best all the time. You're the most beautiful, the most smart, the I don't know, the best, I don't know, student, the best runner every time. No, you're not. No, we are not. The best is one person for a short while, and that is it. You know, I don't know why we think we should be the best and why we should do that to each other to lift ourselves up in a fake way, which it is not. We should be comfortable with who we are. That's all. Yeah, I don't need to be the best. I look to be good and get better, but that's it. Again, so this is a kind of a fake thing that we do, that compliments they come, which we don't mean it. When it happens, actually, a lot of times this mask that we wear that way, it becomes that, it becomes real. And I do have friends right now, I have a lot of friends, I brag about that one. And one of the friends that I have, a very good person, but she has been wearing this mask for so long that she doesn't know even who she is anymore. That at any uh circumstance, for example, when they go to a group, it starts behaving that as if I love my husband, we have the best relationship. You know what? You don't, you know, you don't have to go say, okay, we had a fight and I'd like to smash his head. You don't have to say that, don't ruin the party, but you don't have to pretend as if everything is, you know, lovey dovey. Yeah, it just becomes too much. And because she does that and she, as I said, gives compliments very easy, very easy, they have become worthless.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00To compliment myself that you know, I just I get it all the time. You just say anything I do. And um, with myself a little bit, I say it's a little more open because I I take a jab at her, so sometimes she does the same to me. But as a general rule, she doesn't. And to believe it or not, it was one day that anyway, we got together and we went to some events, and we I started making fun of, you know, saying jokes about people generally. If you would see somebody say, Oh my god, what happened? You became so ugly. You know, of course, not in their face, it was just in the street and thing. We were just having fun. And then at the beginning, she was taken aback. You can't talk like that. I said, I'm not gonna tell her, I'm not gonna tell the person. I'm just you know, talking among ourselves. And then it started to loosen up, and she did the same thing. And believe it or not, the day after she told me that I had one of my best days. And I said, Do you know why? She said, Not really, but it was a really good day. I said, probably because you were you. She hadn't experienced that, and genuinely I believe that. I can't say for sure, but you know, I genuinely believe that, you know, that it was just she had taken all the masks off, she did not have to be nice all the time, she had to be real. So, as I said, the reality doesn't change. When we do that, you just feel a kind of relief. But no, I'm not gonna tell the person right in their face, you know, that you know, they're ugly. Yeah, there is no need. If they come and ask me how beautiful I am, of course, nobody had asked, but if they do, I said, you're all right. I'm not gonna again lie necessarily. And the rest of it would be the responsibility of the person to take it. It's not my responsibility to be all the time nice. Yeah, you know, it you have to be factual, and it's very good because it will strengthen actually the relationship or strengthen the person is themselves. Again, all these things that I'm saying, it doesn't mean that every single situation we can do that. You know, we cannot be sometime if somebody is in a tough spot, if they cannot take it, then sure, you can give them some compliments that you don't mean because it's an acute situation. But for the most part, that's not the case. So we don't have to practice that. Again, I'm hoping that you know, again, with this conversation, it clarifies that when we behave differently at different situations, I'm hoping that you are not a different person, it's the same person from a different angle, yeah. And you know, based on the circumstances, the person you talk to, you know, how good of a relationship you have, you know, those kind of things dictate on how value can be, you know, open. But try to practice more honesty versus being a political person. Politicians, you know, unfortunately, they are the ones that they say yes to everybody because that is how they get your vote. Yeah, more often you see that. And it has become in a way that now we have become a society that I want something opposite of you, and politicians will have to say yes to both of us because we have learned that. Only if you agree with me, I vote for you. I don't vote for honesty. I vote for being nice. Remember that. And normally I say that why politicians often are dishonest. Because we elect them. Because we do not vote for somebody who is honest. And the the same root is from this concept of mask and this thing. It's just the same thing. I know it seems that it's very deviated, but it's the same thing. Then we promote that. And that as you said, you mirror person, you know, you it forces you to do that. The environment changes, it becomes a bit harder to be honest. And those they become an issue. And you know, at the end of the day, we pay for it, all of us. Because again, the fact of life won't change.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Anything you can add to this before I keep going.
SPEAKER_02You were hitting a lot of good points there. I gotta think back. I think especially when you were talking about I'm trying to find the words you used. I don't think I'm gonna be able to remember them. Um you had said something about oh, the compliments and how saying the best and all of that. I think especially that's used a lot, I find, with kids. Like parents telling their kids they're the best. And I think that is a really big issue. Like, not like sure, you could tell me that I'm the best at, you know, art, whatever. I know it's not true, but a little kid is gonna believe that, and then they're gonna grow up believing that if you consistently are telling them that, and they're gonna grow up to be adults that are not gonna be able to take constructive criticism, like in the workplace, which is so necessary, or in school, which is obviously very necessary to improve, you know.
SPEAKER_00So you said this, you reminded me of something. Normally they say when the children they go through the work environment, but often they have a harder time. And one of the things is that, or for example, when they go to a school, because other other stuff, I mean, children are very honest, and then they face the reality, and then it becomes a shocker to them. Yeah, and that is one of the things about you know, if you tell your child that you're the most beautiful, you're the smartest, you're this and that. Don't. Why should they be? That is actually my question. Even I have a friend of mine, I have to say this. The other day we were talking, I said, I told him, he has a little daughter. I said, Don't tell her that she's the most beautiful, don't tell her that she's the smartest. You can say that you love her the most, you can say she's the most beautiful in your eyes, but don't compliment her on the things that she's not. The reason, again, you just develop a different standards, different expectations. But when she goes to the real world and she sees somebody else that is smarter or most beautiful, or whatever, based on whatever standards that they decide that, then she will be crushed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And do you really need to be the most beautiful and the most smart? Absolutely not. I don't know who has come up with this damn idea. If I knew who that person was, I would just smack them on the head. Yeah. Seriously, why? They are lying because the most means one person, the best is one person. I'm the most good looking guy in this house because nobody else is here.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Of course, no, in some other, you know, in the area. Come on, that's what you're supposed to say.
SPEAKER_02Sorry. I missed my cue there. You didn't put up the key cards.
SPEAKER_00You don't have to be that honest. But you know, we create something that as if we want to be, and that is has become a lot of pressure on people that they want to become beautiful. Then you see all of this um makeups and I don't know, botox and clothing and nail. Why? I honestly don't understand that part. Why you are doing that? It becomes too much of a pressure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And perfection doesn't exist. No, like that's saying all of that, it's just creating more insecurities for when they find out they're not, you know, perfect or the best. And then they're really gonna think you're a liar because if all the kids' parents are telling them they're the best, they're gonna talk and be like, Well, you guys lied to us. Which one is which one is the best?
SPEAKER_00I should it but when you say again in immigrants, I said you might have noticed I have a bit of an accent. No, I thought maybe I was it's the moose moose jaw accent, you know, in case even in my household, you know, my parents they were they were honest, they didn't tell us that you're the most beautiful and the most good looking, and I don't know, they didn't say that, and we grew up all right. I mean, don't say anything opposite. I'm okay. I'll keep my mouth shut. But but you know, honestly, you know, just uh so when sometimes people they think that they have to give those compliments, not really, you don't have to, it's not needed. We make it up, and that's an awful idea. You will see in the other conversation, you know, over podcasts, you will see it just comes back to the same thing that I'm gonna be talking about. We need to be honest as a basic principle, then after that, sure, sometimes we don't want to express the honesty, meaning that we don't want to be dishonest. Yeah, you don't have to say that somebody is not the most smart or they're not the best or they're not that good, but you can say, hey, you should improve on this thing, you can, and you are improving, and that's awesome. And at times, sure, if somebody is in a very acute stage that they really need some sort of a compliment, time to time it happened, sure. Give them a free compliment. I'm sure they won't believe it as well. But you can do that if that makes them feel better, sure. Yeah, but in the big picture, I think it's better to uh start with honesty and then start to polish it. Yeah, and as I have said before, too, we all have some rough edges though. We cannot act exactly the way that we are, so some of the changes must happen. As I said, a child that grows up is very honest, they say everything, and that's not necessarily the best thing, too. They have to learn at places they should act differently, they cannot say just everything. So that is the polishing that we should all you know get at one point. Yeah, at the same time, otherwise, we will not be able to live together. At the same time, there should be a buffering that if you make a mistake, I should be okay with it, and vice versa. Otherwise, if that buffering is not there, life becomes very harsh. That as soon as you make a mistake, let's just jump there and you know point it out, yeah, and then say, This is my right. You should not have said that. If that becomes that's an awful life, to be honest. Yeah, so a bit of a polishing is a good idea. We have to change. I'm gonna maybe add this. For example, personally, I dress normally casual. If I want to go to an event that they ask me to dress formal, sure, I will do it because you know it's just a one-time thing. But if let's say there is a job that uh position I take that I have to wear that all the time, I will think about that. I may change personally that it's okay, it's not affecting me otherwise, and accept it to wear that. But if really I don't want to do that, then I will not take the job.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, if now it is about the job, but you know, if it's in a relationship, for example, with friends. Uh, I have, for example, again, I said I have a lot of friends, but you know, I have these friends that they're a little bit more of a classy, if that's the word. And you're they're okay with it and good on them. With me, I'm a bit of a casual whatever, when it comes to my personal life.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it, you know, it happened that sometimes we go to each other's you know places, but thankfully, so far, nobody has said anything to the other person that you should change my way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00When I go there, I know that this fork is for this and that fork is for the other thing. And I do that because I enjoy the conversation, I enjoy the company for sure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But yet sometimes I find it a bit difficult to be honest.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes I feel that it's just a feeling, but I'm trying to get over that, and that's okay. You know, if they want to be again for everything, there is a different plate, it's just fine. It is the way that they live. The way that I live, I use the same plate for everything because I don't want to wash too many dishes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If they complain, I give them another one, but you know, I would be mad about it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But but it's not the biggest deal. So again, um, because I enjoy the conversation, I enjoy the company, I'm willing to make that sacrifice. I mean, it's not the biggest thing, but you know, uh I won't cry about it. But it's not gonna change my personality, but I'm not mirroring them. I should say that too. To some extent, maybe if I had to or if I was comfortable, I would, but I'm not gonna buy new place and things and be that because that's not me. It would become too much of a pressure, yeah. And we respect that, I think, in each other. So far, it has been very good. Yeah, you live your life, I live my life. We have a lot of things in common, we take advantage of that. Anyway, so these are the things that you know, when we call to about the mask thing, you know, some of it is masked when we act in a dishonest way. I give you a compliment that I don't mean, or I say something again that I don't mean, that I act like a unfortunately I have to use this word again, like a politician, that I want to keep everybody happy. And it's interesting enough, I have personally exercised that I'm more on the being honest part, which sometimes has gone wrong too, just to be very clear. Yeah, but yet I prefer this part, and I have noticed the friends that I have, they know who I am, they don't expect me to change to their way. Yeah, and some that they couldn't take it, they are not hanging out with me, and that's okay too. Yeah, but I'm left with the good circle of friends. Yes, that is what I'm trying to point out. I have I'm left with a very good circle of friends, yeah, and because I am who I am, often it encourages them to open up and be who they are. So the concept of the mask, just again, some of it, as long as it's you, it's okay. As long as just a different version of you, different circumstances, different timing, it is you. Yeah, but if you have been dishonest, doesn't matter if you call it nice. I don't think that's good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. No, I think you've changed my mind on that. It's like there's a little like it's like my earrings. Like I take them out and I put them in my pocket. They're still with me. I'm not just taking them out and leaving them at home, like it's a different person. They're still with me in my pocket. Just put away for the time being.
SPEAKER_00Do you have anything to add? Because I'm gonna ask a question for everybody, all the listeners, hopefully.
SPEAKER_02Ask your question.
SPEAKER_00Ask. Actually, I'm hoping with this we kind of highlight, you know, the difference between the mask and just no different version of you. And it's okay, different version of you. It should be because you are in different circumstances, different locations, different times. So definitely, it must be different. We have to sometimes this mask, for example, when you work as a customer service that you're forced into behaving a certain way. Sometimes it's not such a bad thing. You can adopt that and be that all the time, because that's a good change. It is forced upon you, but it's not such a bad thing. Some of it that it might become too much, because I've heard sometimes some people, I'm gonna be myself, you know, all the time. I said, Well, you can't. That's a very dumb idea. You know, you cannot be the same person all the time. I mean, do just one version. No, we have different versions, but it's the same person, different against circumstances, different times, different people. Yeah, but the question is that how often, now this is the question for everybody have you been dishonest more by saying nice things that you don't mean? And do you think really it is making the situation for the other party better or worse? And for yourself, you know, that is, and then I would recommend that please start with a bit of uh honesty, yeah, and we are gonna screw up, but it's well worth it. We will show our flaws, somebody will find it, we'll highlight those flaws, and then we will decide or to make it better, or maybe we don't do anything, but just we know that the flaw is there. Yeah, again, Keller, do you have anything to add?
SPEAKER_02I don't think so. I think you hit it right on the nose.
SPEAKER_00But anyway, so thanks everybody for listening to this. And normally I finish my podcast this way. Life is simple, they make it complicated. Take it easier. Thanks everyone.