S1E16 Value Systems: Part 1

One becomes famous because they are liked by the public, its not always because they are correct, smart, helpful, reasonable and so on. This is why I say you can judge the value system of a society by seeing who is on top.

A country becomes democratic, dictatorship, good or bad and so on because of the people not the government, after all the government is selected or stays in power because of the people. 

Most of us wish for a peaceful, happy, rich and healthy life for ourselves and others. We generally fail because we have the wrong value systems and are not aware of the consequences. 
    
Q: Among your friends, Who do you like more, the ones who agree with you or the ones who challenge you in a proper way?

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:08

Welcome to Life Workshop where we discuss the forgotten basics. As usual, we have uh Bo with me, the most favorite co-host, and of course I am the most favorite host. So Mo. And then the topic of this episode is value system, but the part one we are gonna be talking about uh talking about this on a over a few um episodes. So, Bo, I'm gonna start with a question from you. In general, is Canada a good country or a bad country? It's a good country because I live here. Okay. Because of you.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

Yep, all just because of me. Okay. Well, I I I think so. I don't really have anything to compare it to.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

Okay. So is it a good country because of the people or because of the government of Canada?

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Uh generally. I would say it's a good place because of the people. Okay. And I think maybe it was a good place of the government maybe 50 years ago. So the government is not that good. Not particularly at the at the moment, not particularly, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Yeah, fair enough. And now, the audience, you guys, I would like you to answer to this question. If you're only from the country that you are and you haven't immigrated, tell me if your country is a good country or a bad country, and have that answer. And then if the country that you came from, the second country, whatever it is, or third country, any country that you know, if they are good or bad. And then when you have answered that, then why is the country good or why is it bad? Because of the people or because of the government of the people of that country. So, and if I predict your answer correctly, you owe me this that you're gonna like my um video, the podcast, you're gonna subscribe and you're gonna share it, hopefully. So, as a general, I have asked this from quite a few people, and often, often.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Before you go any farther, I just have a question. Um, when you said about the people, so you're because we usually look at like individual people, right? So you're looking at your friends and things like that. When you say the people, are you talking about the people of the country overwhelming culture? Correct. There's a word for it, um, the mass pre preeminent culture of the country.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Just the general mass of the country. Are the people of the country good, or is it the government is good? And why the country becomes good or becomes bad?

SPEAKER_01 2:59

Okay. And as a general rule if I stay with my answer then.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Okay, good. So as a general rule, this is the thing. Often, very frequently, when you say your country is bad, you blame it on the government. You say government is bad. But if your country is good, you say that people are good. Because of the people, the country is good, not because of the government. So if it is a bad country, you consider it doesn't matter what it is. If you consider your country a bad country, then you blame it on the government. But if you consider your country as a good country, then you consider it you you uh give the credit to the people that people are good. This is a general rule. But the answer is just one thing a country is good or bad because of the value system of the people. Because this is the people who have elected the government.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

So before I get too further, well, not exactly. Because like North Korea, let me help you with that. Well, North Korea, sure, but I mean, even here, you know, only half of the people voted actually somewhere, or half of the people. I'm gonna get election. I would say that is not and and the Nazi party in Germany got voted in with 30% of the vote. Actually, I'm gonna get back to that too.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Okay. So you get back to it then. Yeah, for sure. No, every time the answer is this it's because of the people. Even if the government is a dictator, even if the government is elected because of the 10% or whatever that you want to say, doesn't matter what the percentage is, is every time because of the people, and I'd get there. But but before I get there, I'm gonna just mention this. You know, years ago I was just thinking how you can become famous, and I really went and Googled this. I yeah, yeah, yeah, seriously. Not that I wanted to be famous, although I don't mind it, but but anyway, and I asked this from a lot of people as well as a researcher, till a friend of mine put it in a very simplistic way, and which was I believe that is the answer. He said, You become famous if people like you. Not because you're right, not because you're smart, not you're because you're doing good, not because of anything else. Simply if people like you. So, based on the value system that we have, we like something important. So, because of that, that person becomes famous. For example, Kim Kardashians, they have become famous. Not because they are doing anything positive, actually, as far as I'm concerned, to the best of my knowledge, I really don't know much about them, just briefly, but the way I know of them is more of a negative than positive, but yet they have become famous. Why? Because of the poor value system that we have. Now, I'm gonna go back to this. Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

You just snuck that in there. It was very smooth, huh? That was good. Yep. Reiterate that again. We have a poor value system.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. Okay, absolutely, and we can get better. I'm not saying when I say poor, I don't mean just terrible and blah blah blah. But yeah, it is a bad system. We have to we have room for improvement, a lot of it. Now I'm gonna go back because I have brought this up before, and then a friend said that no, in North Korea, that's not true. For example, do you think that government said absolutely, it was created by the people, and this is the thing. When the value, I don't know much about North Korea, but I'm ready to bet money on this because this is the same behavior across the board, it doesn't change, it's the same principle. I guarantee you, in the North Korean culture, or whatever that it was, they were okay with a bit of a dictatorship. They were just fine with that, and because of that, a dictator came to power, and then he became more of a dictator. So then the people they were kind of gave in. And then he became more, and that's it, it went on. As simple as that. Right, and then it got too too far to stop. Yeah. And even to yes, too too far to stop again depends on how much people they believe in or understand of democracy. Then because at one point, I mean let's picture this. If they say, and sometimes this has happened that uh sometimes people they get worried that in Canada that we have democracy, if you are gonna go backwards and we are gonna have a dictator government, and of course I believe some people they say we do, and blah blah blah, but you know what? Forget it. Have you been elsewhere? Let's just be real. So if somebody thinks that we are gonna go back, just think about it for just just picture it. Even if the government wants to become a dictator, who is gonna apply it? Because the government, who is government? The Justin Trudeau, for example, for us, you know, he wants to come and tell this. The member of the parliaments, the the other people that are below him too, that it twinkles down. Who is gonna enforce that? Enforce what? Dictatorship. Well, ultimately it won't happen. That is what I'm trying to say. It will never, ever happen because our police department, our army, our parliament, everybody has grown up in democracy. We are not gonna go backwards, it won't happen. We might have hiccups, it will never, ever go backwards. So nothing to worry. That's what I'm saying. Because we have grown with that. Who is gonna do it? Because somebody, when we say that North Korea is not the King Chung Chung, I don't know what his name exactly is, but you know, he himself is not there with the gun enforcing, it is his army and the people, the ranks underneath him, and then underneath him. Oh, they are the one except he murdered his brother. That is correct. That is correct.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

But did he murder my question is that I have no doubt that he would shoot either of us without a hesitation.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

For sure. No, no, no, that is true, that is very true. My question that do you think he went himself and just I shouldn't even say that.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

I don't even I don't even know him.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Okay. Well, I don't know him personally too. But but what I'm trying to say that he he could not do, I mean, it's just impossible. He the way he has done it, it has been because the people have been okay with it. That's all I'm trying to say. And the people underneath him, they have been okay with it. I'm gonna get there uh if it make more sense. In Iran, in Iran, for example, we had um again, we had a very good country before the revolution, but then it got worse.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Didn't things go backwards in Iran?

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Yes, we did. We did, but listen, listen to this just a second. Okay, and that was actually another thing. I'm gonna bring it up in the next podcast. Oh, okay. Okay. Um so in Iran, for example, it was relatively uh democracy, but you know, when I say democracy, democracy is the Shah's time, the Shah's way, the kingdom that we had before. But again, you could not talk against the government at that time. Again, that was the same principle. They could not talk for in here. You can go talk about Justin Trudeau and nothing happens. Even during Shah's time, if you would say something about the Shah, somebody would come and arrest you. You could not talk about that. So it was not as democracy as we talk. But there was democracy in the way that people could dress or you know, cover up or not cover up, go to parties, you know, have a bar or something. That was freedom. But you could not do against the government even at that time.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Do you think though? Um, let's say, well, let's talk about this thing with the government of Canada with the emergencies act that they did, with because truckers were parked in front of in like Ottawa making a news and they yeah, they're blowing their horns and stuff, that's annoying. But um, they just pro protested, and instead of going out and talking to them, he said they're all crazy, which isn't true. And well, maybe some, but you know, it's not overall, right? And these people had a legitimate concern, and you know, and he should have came out and spoke to them, or had a representative or someone should have come and spoke to them, but instead they've they froze their their bank accounts, and everyone who supported their bank account, anyone who gave money to them through an answer donation, and to this war measures act, okay. Like sometimes demonstrate I'm not I'm not done yet. So, and and I get it, it's not that someone didn't come out and like arrest anyone for talking against Justin Trudeau himself or anything, but are we not shouldn't we be we be watching out because that's a slippery slope, especially when when they declare something like a war measures act for a bunch of people like truck drivers who are who are protesting something? Like there's way worse stuff. I'm not going on.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

I should I'm gonna just very briefly say this though. First of all, this is yet democracy, but democracy does not mean that you can't do anything and everything. But it means that as long as as long as it does not invade somebody else's democracy. So sometimes people they get confused. They think that with democracy we can't do anything and everything. No, no, no, no. Your freedom as long as it doesn't invade somebody else's freedom. And then, yes, there might be a little bit of a pushback and forth, you know, but I don't want to get into that detailed part of it, because if you talk to a lot of other, let's say, pro-vax and these things, I think a majority were in favor of the government taking action. And they thought that it didn't take as much action against the truckers.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

So it can go both ways. It wasn't a government issue, it was a bad policing issue. But they should they should never have let those trucks roll up into that place. Said, yeah, you they should have they should have stopped that before it even happened. And they said, Yeah, you you can walk onto the grounds and protest all you want, but you can't bring your trucks in and blockade out of Ottawa. I think that's getting off from the main subject of the values is that true, but I'm just I'm just saying though, that when they when they it felt to me like that was an extreme response from a government, and but it it sets a template, you know what I mean, of of that in in the future, and I think we should be vigilant. I wouldn't vote it too much about that. Because though, and it's about us. You just said it's about people and their value systems, right? If we slowly let everything degrade, and if we're not vigilant, then our value systems change. I think we have bigger fish to fry.

SPEAKER_00 13:43

I don't. Ah, that's okay. Then then we can't do it in Bo's podcast. Oh Bo is the host and Mo is the co-host. Sorry. I just I just wanted to bring it up, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:55

It just seemed to me that that you know, I I I would hate to see things go go go backwards. So, and you said it goes back, it goes like little things, little things, little things.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

You know, actually I appreciate that you bring this up because again, uh, as we had discussed it, you know, I want you to take the position of the audience, and I'm sure a lot of audience would have the same concern. But I would not worry too much about it at all. No, it will never, yes, if we just let things asleep gradually, yes, it can go the wrong way. But I don't think so. Because we have grown up in democracy in a way it's just impossible. That's all I can tell you. It might have some hiccups, we have hiccups for sure. But to go backwards altogether, it will never ever happen. This is the nature of the things. And as you look at the whole the whole world in general, the whole world is just, I think it's just a fact of life. It's gonna is getting freer, is becoming better in general. I know we have hiccups. I know we have hiccups, for example, like right now, Putin. This this dude, he thinks that he can go and invade another country and kill people, which that actually shocked me, to be honest. Um But yeah, again, these hiccups can happen, but they are not gonna last. They are gonna go back and uh hopefully things will turn towards better. But again, they are just hiccups. But I want to go back, if you don't mind, to the main subject. For example, when you say about North Korea, how it became it was several years ago. I had this again, as you may know, I'm originally from Iran. Um, there was this Iranian lady who had left Iran a year prior. And then when we were talking, she she hated the government of Iran. She started you know ranting away, you know, that how they do it, and if she was in power, she would do this. If she was in power, she would do that. She kept going.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

When when when when I'm king of Canada, that would be interesting to see.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

But so um I'm not sure. I'm trying to picture that, you know. Bo is the prime minister.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Everyone's house runs on boiler or boiler heat, and I come and install it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Vote for me. But so this Iranian lady, she started ranting away about you know, you know, what she would do, what she would do. Then I told her, I said, hey, do you know what's the difference between you and uh Hezbollah, the current government of Iran? She said what? I said, nothing. You're just a different dictator.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

This is what I'm trying to say. She did not know that what is freedom and what's democracy. And let us be honest, even myself, at the beginning, when I left Iran, I didn't know. I did not know exactly what democracy is. And what I'm saying is that, for example, I had this client of mine that he's from um one of this Islamic country, more restricted. And then once, you know, he was talking that you know, we were talking about this that, you know, for example, if your wife, you're married, and your wife doesn't want to have sex with you, you cannot force her. Then he was just shocked. But she's my wife. I said, hey, slow down. It's not your position. But he has not seen differently. I don't blame the guy, but I'm hoping you know that became an education. I said, he says, Then what shall you do in case? I said, you can divorce her, you can go cheat on her, you can do all of that, but you cannot force her. Period. I said, democracy is this that you can cheat, you can divorce, but you cannot force her. So because we had not learned, and myself I hadn't learned, you know, of democracy that how it is, the same way this Iranian lady. So it would change from one dictator to another dictator. So during Shah's time, it was a dictatorship too. But in a different way. As I said, you could not talk against the Shah. But during the as the revolution, it became worse. And as I said, in the next podcast, I will talk about that, why the revolution happened to begin with. I should tell you this again. So when I talk about the value system of society, the value system decides that who goes on top. I was watching, I'm not gonna say which country, but there was one of these backwards countries, and when I say backwards, it's not an insult, it's a fact. Because some people they say that, oh, you cannot say that. Oh, yes, I can. And this is true. Then one of these backwards countries that you know, there is this guy, this clergyman, let's say he's sitting on the floor, and then his assistant next to him, and then there are two lineups, you know, that it's an Islamic country, two lineups, one for the guys, uh guys, and the other one for uh women, and then of course there is a curtain in between that they never ever see each other because that bad haram, you go to hell and all of that. And then they get close to the clergyman, and then without even saying a word, nothing, they have something in their mind that they want uh to see that if they can, what they should do, they want to make a decision. So the clergyman has a book in his hand, opens it, and tells them, yes, no, maybe, and maybe a sentence do it, don't do it, or think about it, or just come with something. It's like a fortune tender. And then those people, of course, the guys, not the gears. Hey, you can't say that. They would which part? Those people. Oh, those some of us. See, I've been paying attention. Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome, actually. So the men would sometimes kiss the guy's hand and would give money to the assistant of the guy, the clergyman, and women they would just give uh you know the money to the uh to the assistant. So basically, what I'm saying, the moral of the story is this this clergyman had tons of respect, obviously, among the society. But really, was he a respectful man or useful man? I don't think so. He doesn't know even what goes in your head, he's not providing anything, just you they come with their idea, something in your head, and then he will say yes, no, maybe. So the moral of the story again is this the value system of society decides who goes on top. So the person who is on top is not necessarily the smartest, is not necessarily the best. So if you see a dumbass becomes the or goes on top, it's because we elected the dumbass. We had the bad idea, bad value system. Very, very simple. I didn't. Okay, you didn't vote for this one. But you know, actually, for example, I'm gonna go back now to the other one.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

I have a question before or a statement, I guess, before you continue. When you say something like when you your story about the clergyman and that, right? It almost seems to me um it that there's something more going on there that it's almost like people, these people going to him, right? Because it's because they don't want to make a decision. Correct. You know what I mean? And and and it's and it's just easier for them just to, well, I'm just gonna go to him and I'll do whatever whatever he says, and then all the responsibility is off of me. I don't have any responsibility. So I don't I don't actually have to make the hard decision. It's he did it. Correct. Oh, I oh, um, you know, I I don't have to apologize for whatever because the clergyman said is fine, or I don't have to do this because the clergyman says fine, or this thing that you're saying because this guy says fine, and it's a way of avoiding responsibility.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Again, all of those things that you said are the value system.

unknown 21:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

The value system did I want to take responsibility for my actions, or I don't want to take responsibility. And if I don't want to take responsibility, I'm not gonna talk to somebody who is an expert and can give me a proper advice. I'm gonna just have it in my mind, and somebody's sitting there telling me yes, no, maybe without hearing anything. The whole Thing that you're saying is value system simple. I said I keep going back. Life is simple, we make it complicated. We are going into details of it, why they do what they do, which is cool. But that's all the value system. Now I'm gonna go back, I'm gonna bring it back home because when we talk about others, those people, hey, we people, us, us, yeah, some of us. Yeah, when we talk about some other people, but it's easier to see the flaw in them. But now let's go bring it back home. We had Donald Trump becoming president of the United States while he had lied about the fact that he said he has a 16-story building while it was 15. That's funny. So, and he just wanted to have one extra uh level to it. Maybe he was including the basement? Actually, he did, but nobody would. That was the rule. Yeah, you cannot just count that. But he did, and then they asked him why. He said who's gonna count it? Something in that line. So, why do you think when somebody lies to somebody else, it's not gonna lie to you?

unknown 23:08

Right?

SPEAKER_00 23:08

What makes you think that it's gonna become honest to you? So, this is going back to that concept of friends that I said. If you see somebody that wants the bad for others, why do you think it's not gonna have a bad for you at another time? Your just turn hasn't come up well. You know, this is all I'm trying to say. That it's a behavior, or for example, when he um uh I'm trying to ask you to remember the thing. Um when Trump again uh oh, he brought up the fact he didn't rent any of the units to the black people. So why do you think now he's not racist anymore? Or he didn't do that in the past. No, that of course people can change, people can change, but let's just bring it back home.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

He, in one of his speeches, it was that easy. Again, you're trying to make it complicated, and I'm trying to simplify it. No, I'm not. Okay, yeah, I there was a whole court case about that, and he was innocent.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Okay, fair enough. I'm I'm not gonna get into those details, but let's get back to this other two. For example, he mentioned that his if he shoots somebody on 9th Avenue, it's not gonna affect his you know um rating or something, which unfortunately to some extent it was true. But he said that. Did you hear that one? No, he said that it was a very popular one. That's awful. So it is awful, and this is the thing, this is the value system of other American, I mean, some obviously, that they didn't care. They simply didn't care. If somebody says that and I'm listening, that person is written off completely. Right. Completely. I don't need more because some of the things are so important. Another one, for example, then he mocked a disabled man and was not apologetic about it, too.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Yeah, didn't he not know they were disabled or something at first? Uh I don't know. And and anyway, irregardless. Again, you don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

We are talking somebody wants to become a president of a country. Yeah, yeah. So again, it is the value system. I brought up the things from North Korea, from Iran, where I'm uh from, because some people they may think that, you know, I I become prejudiced or something to do that. I'm gonna make sure that you know I do all of that. No, we have bad value systems that we allow bad people to go on top.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Right. And that whole thing in the United States when Donald Trump was elected, right? You have to understand too, who was he running against? He was running against who they put up against was Hillary Clinton, who's an awful person by by all accounts. They started a war in Libya. What's going on in Libya? Fair enough that unfortunately I agree. And the Clinton found found. I'm not sure which one is worse, though. Bad, bad. They're both bad. They were awful. These American poor American people had no choice. They like like what is this? You know, and then that then that goes into your value system, though. Actually, it seems that that's the the the the bad the poor value system gave them those two poor choices.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

Exactly. Actually, now I'm gonna get back to that one. If they had two bad candidates to choose from, I'm I'm not sure which one is worse. I think I'm sure which one is worse, but anyway, that's another thing. Now I'm gonna back come back to this question. When we talk about politicians, because they are the politicians that they have gone to that level that they become the candidates, right? When I talk, when I say somebody's a politician, do you feel that they are more honest or dishonest? What do you think? Right away.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Um dishonest. Everyone's they all suck. That is that exactly. They're all wrong.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Actually, this is exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, the first thing that comes to my mind, if somebody says that he's a politician, the first thing is you're a dishonest person. That is the impression that I get. And that's not fair, you know. Actually, there is some generalization about it that is true. And the reason is the reason why we don't have honest politicians. Because the value system of the people, because we don't vote for them. Yeah, because we don't vote for them, because we want a politician who lies to us. So if I say I want it black, he says yes. If you say I want it white, he would say yes to both of us, and he's lying to both of us.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Well, now I just said that they all suck, but now you're trying bad. So actually, we all suck. That exactly. Now I feel bad about myself.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

It's a good start. That becomes where you can start to improve, you can change on this. Because myself, you know, a few years ago, uh, it was just something that just I was thinking to if run for politics, and then sometimes they said you have no chance in hell. And the reason is because I'm very straightforward and honest, and I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. But anyway, and some others they thought that probably I will because I'm very again out-spoken and just say, you know, say it as is. But in general rule, this is what I'm trying to say, and this will be a question by the way for the audience at the end, and you can check to see which one are you. You want you really value honestly, or you value somebody who approves of what you're doing, you know, and that's the question. And you can just check to see who are your friends. The friends that you have are they the one that every time, yes, you're right, yeah, yeah, I'm supporting you, you're doing this, yeah, yeah, it's good. Or the one that they're challenging, and if you're making a mistake, they tell you. So if you're the first one that you want approval, you're the one who is voting for the politician who is a liar. And you're the one who does not allow an honest person to become a politician. And that is why we make politics equal to be dishonest. That is the generalization that we know. I'm not saying in every single case, don't take me wrong, but it's not as bad. And in countries that are more screwed up than Canada, actually, Canada is a great country by the way, except in winter. It's a cold, great country. Yeah. With a cold at the beginning. But even in Canada, for example, the government is not as bad of a lawyer as is in some other countries that they are more screwed up. This that I can say for a fact, I'm coming from one. Because the more lawyers, the more dishonesty, the more screwed up it gets. But again, because we we as a people though, shouldn't tolerate those any of these things. Actually, we are doing it. We are we are picking them up ourselves, we are voting for them. That is exactly what I'm saying. Not that we don't tolerate it. You fix yourself first and see which kind of friends do you have? The friends that they tell you honestly, or you're gonna hate them because they disagreed with you and they were true. Or, or for example, even now that I'm talking about this, are you gonna hate me for it, or are you gonna say, hey, good on you, man?

SPEAKER_01 30:28

No, I'm just gonna tell you that you're wrong. Oh my goodness. Okay, we'll get back to that afterwards. But as it um, before you before we go, I wrote something down here. Okay, good. Um, you said something when you're talking about the clergyman there, right? You said something about harems or something. Which culture is it that has harems? No, I didn't say harems. Did you? No, I never said okay. Anyway, irregardless.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

That's that's for maybe another show.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Maybe okay. We have to bring that up again. Which which culture has the harems?

SPEAKER_00 31:02

Uh in Islamic thing, it has it's allowed, but I don't know of anywhere that is practiced.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

I thought it wasn't supposed, I thought that they were against that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Um, okay, we are changing the subject. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, that's for maybe, maybe another topic, but another day. But again, so the moral of the story is this at the end. Our value system decides who goes on top and how you can check your own. And this is the question that I have for you as the audience. See among friends and the ones that you like. Are they the ones that they agree with you even when you're wrong? Or they are the ones that they tell you as is when they don't agree with you. So if they are the first one that they agree with you, that you like people that they just you just need somebody to approve your behavior, doesn't matter right or wrong, then probably you will elect. Vote for the politician who is telling the same thing, just lies to you. But if you're looking for somebody, if your your friends are the ones that are very honest and genuine with you, and if you make a mistake, they tell you right in your face and not to agree with you, then you would vote for a politician who is telling, you know, they're honest about what they do. But your friend can also agree with you sometimes. Oh, for sure. I'm not saying I disagree. For example, myself, I don't disagree all the time with everybody, with all of my friends. That's not what I do. I don't do it for the sake of that, but I'm very honest about that. If I genuinely feed that I agree, I agree. If not, I would just say no.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

And you have to be able to change your mind too. Correct. If you're allowed, like if if the new something can, you know, you're allowed to change your mind at times. Oh, for sure, for sure. As long as you're and that's one thing people don't understand either, especially when it comes to politics and stuff, right? If someone changes their mind, they're like people get upset by it. But it's like, well, you know, you don't have the same value system when you're 50 as you do when you're 20.

SPEAKER_00 33:09

I know no, that is very true. And I mean, you're supposed to change. Change is the basic element of improvement. Yeah, like remember when trans trans fats used to be good for us? Of course, now is a science part, but but we are talking behavior. Okay, okay, okay. But yeah, uh the the basic element for improvement is obviously change, and yes, we have to be you know open to that. But then the moral of the story that I'm saying is that if we are honest with other feelings and if we welcome the friends that they are more honest with us, then we are the honest people who will vote for the honest politician. But if we are dishonest with our own feeling, so for example, if I don't like something, you don't like something about somebody else, but say, oh no, that's great and that's awesome, and you call it to be polite, and I have said this about Canada. I say in Canada, people are more polite, they are too polite to be honest. And unfortunately, we consider it being polite and overcomes you know the fact that we are becoming dishonest. So again, just see the group of friends that you have, how you elect them, how you like them. Do you like them to agree with you or do you like them to be honest with you? Those are the electr uh the the politicians that you're gonna be voting for.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

Sorry, I know you wanted to keep this a little short and this isn't what you want to talk about, but um, how do you deal with then say the politician that you vote? They say I voted for a politician that I thought was good in my in my in my riding or whatever, right? And that politician doesn't get in or their party doesn't get in, right? But then another the other party in the other side of the country, right? So is it it's almost like because like Canada, if you ever look at it, it's divided almost in half.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

As a general rule, and I understand what you're saying. As a general rule, this is the thing. So you just do your best, you cannot control the result.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

So then, but but you say one has a poor value system, but but when a country is divided almost in half, like like we are politically, which is the better value system, or do they both suck, or like what like what who's to say who's to say which is better?

SPEAKER_00 35:28

Yeah, you know. As I said, we are going again a bit maybe too far, and I'm trying to yeah keep it. What I'm trying to say is this you do the best that you can, you cannot control the result. So don't worry about the outcome, worry about the process.

unknown 35:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

This is what I'm trying to say. Okay. In this sense, you do the best that you can. Because after all, you have just one vote. So that's all it is. What happens next? But if, as a general rule, the whole society starts to change the way that I'm talking about, I think you are gonna have a better government too. And there will be obviously all the time some sort of a difference, but in general, this is the essence for improvement. First of all, choose the honest. Be honest yourself, be honest with your friends, elect the honest politician, promote honesty, and then with honesty, you show your flaws, but at the same time, you show your restraints, and then when you show your flaws, at least you know what your flaws are, and you can fork on them. We will talk about that a little bit in some other episodes. Again, it went a bit further than I thought, thanks to the co-host, Mr. Bo. But no, and that was awesome. No, that was good, though. Again, as I said, you know, I'm glad that you bring this stuff, and you know, I know that again, these are the questions that some of the audience have. So that is great. Thank you for doing that. But again, remember life is simple, we make it complicated. Don't do that. Love you guys. Take care.