Podcast Growth Lab
What do the top podcasts know that most creators don’t?
At AZ Pod Studio, we work in podcasting and media every single day with some of the top voices and top-performing shows in the space. This podcast gives you the behind-the-scenes strategies most creators never hear about — from YouTube growth and viral clips to monetization, branding, thumbnails, titles, guests, and audience building.
Whether you’re trying to start a podcast, grow one, make money from content, or understand how modern media actually works, this show is built to help you skip years of trial and error.
Podcast Growth Lab
YouTube Doesn't Push Videos. It Pulls Them. Here's the Difference.
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20 views after hours of recording, editing, and polishing a title and thumbnail can make you feel cursed by the YouTube algorithm. We take that frustration head-on and share what we’ve heard repeatedly from the person closest to how YouTube recommendations work: the platform is not “handing out” your video to a fixed test group, then judging you as a creator. It’s making billions of individual decisions based on what each viewer is most likely to enjoy at that exact moment.
We talk through why that changes everything for podcast growth on YouTube, especially if you’re building a new channel or repurposing a podcast into video. A viewer might want a six-minute tip while eating lunch, an hour-long documentary at night, or a multi-hour podcast on the TV. Same person, different intent. When your content doesn’t match the moment, it’s not a punishment, it’s a mismatch. That’s why we lean on a blunt but freeing question: replace “algorithm” with “audience.” Instead of asking why the algorithm didn’t recommend you, ask why the audience didn’t choose you.
We also wrestle with the claim that subscribers don’t matter, unpack the idea that YouTube “pulls” videos to viewers, and share a simple checklist you can apply today: does your title create curiosity, does your thumbnail stop the scroll and match the promise, do the first 30 seconds hook fast, does the video solve a real problem, and would you click if it weren’t yours? Subscribe, share this with a creator friend, and leave a review if it helped you rethink your YouTube strategy.
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The Low Views Gut Punch
SPEAKER_00Imagine you just spent hours on your podcast. You recorded it, you edited it, you took all the time to come up with your title and thumbnail. You launch it, 20 views. Immediately your brain says the algorithm must hate you. Believe me, I understand this. This is a new channel for us, and we're still trying to figure out how to create great content for you. And today I'm armed with some extra information because I just got back from yet another conference where I once again listened to the man responsible for the YouTube algorithm. This is the fifth time I've actually seen him speak, and he's had the same message each
How Recommendations Actually Work
SPEAKER_00time. So let me walk you through what he says about the YouTube algorithm. Most creators picture YouTube like this you upload your video, YouTube hands it out to 100 people. If those hundred people like that video, then they pass it out to a hundred more. And when you get into the millions, that means you had thousands and thousands of renditions of this supporting you to the next step. Seems so simple, right? But according to YouTube, this is not what happens. Instead, every single time somebody opens up, the consumer, YouTube asks a completely different question. Not is this video that you just uploaded any good. Instead, it is what is this person most likely to enjoy at this very moment? That's a massive difference because it means there's not just one algorithm. There are billions of recommendations happening individually at all times. Think about the way you consume YouTube. Let's say you're having lunch, you get in a quick six-minute video while you're eating your sandwich. But then later on tonight, when you're in your bed, maybe you have time for an hour-long documentary. When you're consuming YouTube on your home television, maybe that's the time you watch a three-hour Joe Rogan podcast. You're the same person, but at different times, you want different types of content, which means YouTube can't be the same for you every single time either.
Replace Algorithm With Audience
SPEAKER_00Here's where it gets super interesting. If YouTube isn't punishing creators, then why do videos fail? Because creators are blaming the algorithm for where they're falling short. It's one of those things in life where it's kind of like you have to look within. Maybe your title wasn't interesting. Maybe your thumbnail wasn't appealing. Maybe people clicked, but then they realized it wasn't what they expected. If you think of it, that hurts a little deeper because it's not YouTube picking winners or losers. It's people actually not enjoying your content or not being clever enough to get them to where they get the chance to. This is one of my favorite things this man talks about when he talks about the algorithm. He says, whenever you're attempted to go, why did the algorithm do this? Replace the word algorithm with audience. Instead of asking why didn't the algorithm recommend me, ask yourself, why didn't the audience choose me? That question is ultimately more insightful. Even with our new channel here, we're constantly thinking about the things that are actually going to help you to meet you where you're at. But the problem sometimes in being an expert in things, you tend to forget what was so easy for you. And that's where you have to constantly draw back to the audience. We haven't made one video on this platform yet. That is really what you're seeking. And that's not the algorithm's fault. That's our fault for not connecting with our audience. We know things that this studio, the world does not know in podcasting, but we're failing to meet you where you're at. And chances are with your own podcast, you're doing the same thing. We could sit back and blame the algorithm, or we could look introspectively with each video and think, how can we be better?
Do Subscribers Really Matter?
SPEAKER_00There was a couple things I was surprised about that the head of the YouTube algorithm's been saying for years. To be honest, I'm having a hard time connecting the dots, seeing as we manage a ton of accounts. They say that subscribers don't matter. And in some ways, I've seen this because I've seen low subscriber videos blast off of out of nowhere. But to think that subscribers don't matter at all and YouTube isn't taking into account what has worked in the past seems a little naive to me. Especially if you think about it, YouTube's number one job is to keep you on the platform. So if you've had a piece of content in the past that really performed well, that got a certain type of audience onto your platform, I would have a hard time believing it's not using that as a tool to make sure you're stuck on the next one. I always think about Netflix in this way. If I've been watching a lot of Arnold movies, then it's probably gonna dare risk a Sylvester Sallone movie, right? It's probably not gonna throw me a rom com very often if I'm in that phase of checking out the same type of movie all the time. But just so you know the official stance, YouTube says at any time it's assessing a winner, and any video can be that winner.
YouTube Pulls Videos To Viewers
SPEAKER_00A key insight that people use that are big into YouTube, and I actually love YouTube doesn't push videos for the creator, it pulls videos to the consumer. It is trying to find the best possible fit for you at that specific time and therefore keeping you on the platform as long as it possibly can. So if you find that you're in low view count creator jail like we are at the moment, then the answer is you're too risky and you're not creating content for the audience. And just so you know we practice what we preach here. Will you continue to build videos every week trying to assess the needs of what you want and what is gonna be most helpful for your podcast
A Practical Checklist And Next Steps
SPEAKER_00adventure? If you feel like it, go ahead and leave a message in the comments. We're glad to look into creating that video for you to meet your where you're at and get you to the next level in your podcast. The big thing here is to stop asking, how can you beat the algorithm? And to start asking, how can I build videos that the audience absolutely wants? So the next time your video underperforms, there's a couple things you can ask yourself. Did the title create curiosity? Did the thumbnail stop the scroll? And did it also communicate the promise of the video? Did the first 30 seconds deliver and hook you in? Did it solve a real problem for you? And lastly, would I click this even if it wasn't my own video? Folks, that's a little bit of what I got out of the YouTube algorithm seminar. Don't feel bad if you're in the low-click jail of YouTube. Just means you're still learning your audience and what exactly they need. Especially if you're an expert in the subject, you tend to be shoulder level when you really should be heel level because your audience and those starting new, that's where they're at. So until next time, coming at you live from Business Radio X, Backlot Studios, and AZ Pod Studio. Connect to us for things working in the podcast world with seminars and more videos to come. See you later.