Hatten Health Podcast Episode 9

Welcome to episode 9! In this episode we ask "What did health mean to you at different stages of your life?" Abby asks Khari what health meant to him at different stages of his life starting all the way back as far as he can remember. From the age of 5 to the present day. This is where we explore the evolution of our perspective on our personal health. 

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SPEAKER_00 0:05

All right. Welcome, welcome, welcome, yes, to another episode of the Hatton Health Podcast. This is Duke. Yes, Later and Duke. He's back there in Dentress 2. She's back there hiding somewhere, relaxing. This is episode nine of the Hatton Health Podcast. Thank you for joining us. I am Cardi.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

I'm Abby.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

And we are Hatton Health, where we love, love to focus on family, health, growth, and empowerment. So let's make it happen. Together. I love that part. It's not a little bit. I'm not gonna lie. She's been working out. I can feel it.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Cheers.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Cheers. Yeah. I need a refreshment after that. Andrew.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Ding it. I had a friend growing up. I believe that it wasn't a true high five unless it hurt. So that just brought back a lot of challenge.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

I've known a couple like that. Yeah, especially in my military days that reminded me of one friend that I had too. His thing was like, after you saw Friday after next, the third one, where that scene where Terry Cruz shook Cavalier's hand really hard, shook, brought him in there really hard, gave him a hug. He did that all the time to us. Especially if it wasn't a club, he had a couple drinks, he would shake hands and pull me in really hard, just meditating that scene all the time. It was sometimes funny and sometimes it was annoying, depending on your move. Yeah, that was just thing, just hard handshake hug.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

So today we are just gonna get kind of personal and talk about what health means to each of us. Yeah. And kind of go back in time and talk about what health meant to us at different ages and how it's evolved and how it's changed over the course of our lives.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

Yeah, I feel that's important because in previous um episodes, even the first episode, we gave you some backstory about us individually, just as people, how we came to patent health and things of that nature. Now we're just gonna give you some backstory as to why what health means to us and why we're talking about it now at this point in our lives and why we feel like it was important to bring information that we have gained and still gaining to you now.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Yeah, and give you an opportunity to hopefully reflect it on it as well and discuss it as a family or with friends or with coworkers and also with your children. So this has helped me really kind of analyze, especially with our two-year-old about to be three, like, okay, what did health mean to me when I I mean, today probably doesn't really matter, right? Don't really remember, but you know, into those elementary school years, like five years old, eight years old. So then I can know how to prepare her and start having those discussions now that I wish or maybe should have had as a child as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Yeah, because these conversations are important to have. And speaking for me personally, it's it's a little third period getting getting involved, having these conversations. You get to learn a little bit more about your partner and as just so yourself as you're talking about these things because you might be able to unlock some things about your personality, your personal health that's gone into the point that you are now that you may not have understood or learned before. So it's good to have these open conversations, even if they're a little difficult or awkward to have, it's just good to get it out because you will feel a little better later on.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

And it's good for your mind too to try to think and remember all different times or all different times in your life. So let's get started. So, Kari, what did health or what do you think health meant to you when you were five years old?

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Five years old, that's what that's a big one.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

What was happening in your life from that time?

SPEAKER_00 3:42

There was a lot, and I've done a lot of reflecting lately over just my childhood and my life. And like most people don't remember much before the age of four or three. I don't remember a lot at the age of four. I remember certain things. Five, um, it's it's spotty from what I do remember. But as far as health goes, and like a lot of us, probably wasn't thinking much about it. Was just thinking about being a kid when our next snack was.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Well, I was just thinking five years old too, because that's when you start kindergarten and school. And so it's kind of a little easier to maybe remember that specific time.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

But one of the things that stick out the most was probably the not the healthiest things, which was probably my first time having my, which is my favorite candy, Reese's Reese's cup. I started as far as back as I can remember, chocolate chip of cookies, making those, and kindergarten cooking, whatever at home. And I remember Sunday dinners at my grandmother's house. That was pretty much childhood, adolescence, teenagers until we got the jobs or whatever. We always have Sunday dinner at my grandmother's house after church. And the staple that was one of those plates, green beans and corn, carrots and green beans, or carrots and peas, or greens and corn and peas, combinations of those four was always there, unless it was a special occasion or something. And of course, as a kid, you're not really into that, but you have to sit there until you finish it, or try to finish as much as you could without don't push it away, get in trouble, blah, blah, blah. Growing up with a lot of old school values, things we grow up, but you get taught a lot at that age how these are eat your greens, have to have your greens. Don't drink all your beverage before you finish your food. Don't push around your food, eat just don't just eat the meat, or eat the thing you like. Eat everything properly, eat everything evenly, even if we don't finish it, just make sure you get those greens and you get those vegetables. They're um our parents, grandparents always stressed about how much important vegetables were to your diet. Even if as a kid you didn't want to hear it, or you thought they were just making you eat it just because you learn a little later that yes, those are important when you start going to school, or other people start telling you. And yes, some of the shows you were watching on TV, cartoon movies or whatever, they have those hidden messages in there talking about those greens, those veggies. Um, prime example, Popeye, although it's exaggerated a lot. So spinach, it's your spinach, your protein, yeah, vitamins made you strong. Yes, then of course later on, as we thought be the jokes like, oh, steroids and those greens. No, it wasn't it. But they were just things exaggerating, but still different cartoons, though. They have those hidden messages about nutrition that they were trying to instill in you, even so they're trying to give it to you in some way, shape, or form. Now it's just five years old. That's me thinking back now at this age. Back then, I probably didn't realize that. But as you get a little older, you start going to elementary school, the different health classes that was in school. I went to public schools, I know we had the general health classes growing up. Those were some of health was one of my favorite classes. I didn't do great in every class in school, but the health classes was ones I liked a lot, along with the art and the music programs back when they had those in the public schools, language arts, spelling, uh, science. But a lot of common threads that was in those classes that caught my attention was a lot because I was a very visual learner. So they had like the diagrams that we had to, the diagrams that we had to draw and learn, which each body apartment, which each health system, body system was, in detail, labeling them, learning about what the functions was. And that held my attention really well. And I always found that fascinating to this very day, how the body works different. All the little details about how all the systems are um interconnected together, how and like we spoke about in a couple episodes back, um, gut health, how the gut is a second brain. We learned about that early on. And so throughout growing up, third grade, fourth grade, fifth grade, sixth grade, I started to understand a lot that I was being told when I was a kid earlier. How it was been everything that we were being taught to eat was beneficial to us, why we were being limited on candy, the junk foods, why certain sugars, certain salts was bad for too much of it, was bad for you. And yes, even as adolescents, you start to understand that you I still didn't fully take it seriously, but I understood that I didn't fight it. Not just because I was taught not to that talk to the parents, but I understood that because I was starting to see different um declines in the other generation members of my family, seeing what my grandfather went through before he passed away. Uh, he passed away as when I was at a young age, and my grandmother told me uh what he was dealing with as far as his strokes and whatnot. So I started paying attention to that, and then she told me why. And I understood why when we went to go see him, although he loved candy so much, we wouldn't take him, or he she would, we she wouldn't let him have certain amounts of candy. We couldn't bring him things. And I was like, okay, I get that much. Then seeing other members, elder members of my family go through that. I feel like high school, I can't speak for everybody, but I know me and a lot of people that I known at that time. Yes, we weren't being health conscious, but we understood that we was, we felt like we were almost invincible. We could eat and do anything, but we knew that it wasn't the right path to go. So we would try to balance our nutrition in ways that we were being taught, but it didn't always seem fun to us because we thought, hey, we're guys, we're playing football, we're young, we can do whatever we want, we can eat whatever we want. And you start to learn that that's not the case. Start seeing people older than you and your family say they had that same mentality, not worse when they were younger, and then you see them their health start declining later on because they didn't take it seriously. So that made me start to really think and take it seriously. Okay, yeah, I was my first job, I was working at a donut coffee shop, free access to donuts and coffee and ice cream all I wanted. But I had to check myself every now and then, like, yes, it's nice, but this isn't right. I want to keep all my teeth the way they are. I want to stay young forever, although I know that's not possible, but staying looking young as much as possible. So I need to limit this a little bit. Don't take those liberties. See, keep eating those vegetables. Try to balance my diet as much as I thought I could with the education that I had. And understanding, not knowing that I understood at the age, that that makes any sense. I didn't try to feel as young, as powerful as free as I thought I could have. I still had a little sense of some sense of normalcy, some sense of trying to maintain a decent, healthy enough diet diet. Because I knew that I wanted to do something with my life after high school that wanted to be physically present for. My mom was getting sick, so I wanted to do something to be able to take care of her, be present for her. Although even if I wasn't physically there, if I were to go away to college or military, like I chose, be able to have a good mind frame, good physical sense, physical presence that I can be um set an example for anybody coming after me and singing in a lot because I'm trying not to break this down too much for talk too long, but I do want to give information that how I felt at that time. And right now, where am I at? Talking about high school right now, senior year high school, just before graduation.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Uh yeah, I wanted to when I went into the military, I chose cooking because the profession that I really wanted to first I wanted to try to go for, um my ast wasn't high enough, so they asked me what else probably to do. I said, I love to cook, I love computers, but my test scores wasn't high enough to do going to computer science, computer analyst, or info, I forgot what it was, it was counterintelligence. So I was like, well, you always why isn't he a lot of cook? You can cook. I'm like, all right, cool, I'll do that. So I did that. And then once I went through the whole boot camp process and got my first duty station, which was in Hawaii, Marine Corps base, Kanye Ohe Bay, I was thrown into the mess hall. And there, where I got my first, well, not my first big taste, because our culinary school in the military, our MOS school was general culinary food service. So basically it was cooking the field, cooking the mess hall, basics, um, basics of cooking, basics of mass production cooking, whether it be field rations or on base. And I got a general education on the culinary arts. Wasn't like a six-month, two-year accredited big fancy culinary school, like a cordon blue and those places, but it was enough for the basics of the military, which what I needed to do in the military. So that was my first education in the culinary arts. And I learned a lot about food production and food safety, uh, food safety regulations, sanitation, uh, the health, sorry, with the health, the nutritional effects of just everyday, everyday mechanics of cooking, dealing with food, different uh food groups. And when I got stationed in County Liban and Messhall, that was a big must hall. We served, I don't remember how many Marines I said, we just served a couple thousand, no, a few thousand to our knowledge. I could be wrong. It's been a long time. This was 99, 2000, but we did mass production cooking. That was the main thing we did, and it was fun. I learned a lot. The um staff sergeants, the mess hall sergeants, they weren't called chefs there, but they had learned a lot from them. Learned a lot about recipe scaling, a lot about just production, food production in general. And that was fun. That was fun. I got a big, big dose of reality as far as like what to expect outside of just the coffee shop I worked at, the buffet restaurant I worked at before I went into the service.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

And so what what did health mean to you during that time though?

SPEAKER_00 13:45

So what so what health meant to me in my early 20s was at the time it was fuel, fuel for the body, fuel for the mind. I still didn't think as deep into it then as I do now. Then it was more general. It was more what I was learning about what the protein did for us. I was learning about what carbs did for us. I was learning about what the different sugars do in our body, how not to, how to balance it, how not to use intake too much of any single one, because that's not going to work the way you think it would. And as much exercising as we did, we call it PT or IT or PFTs, the tests that we did, how proper fueling for our body helped us with those, with the runs, with the different uh exercise routines that we had to do, whether it be for testing or whether it be for field exercises. How proper fueling helped out that and learned about when we did field exercises, we had to go into the field and do different trainings. But the way we fed ourselves in the field compared to the way we fed ourselves on base was different. We still had was able to get the same, same amount of nutrients, the same amount of food, but the rations were different. Food storage was different. We learned about that. So I learned about how I understood how we're still able to properly take care of ourselves in different environments and the importance of it. Learning that even with less rations, less amount of food, different types of food, we're still able to get healthy doses enough for us to survive and function without it being a deficient deficiency. So I was took I started taking that into account because I wasn't good at running at that time. I wasn't good at running, wasn't good at pull-ups, and I was talking with the it almost keeps me in shifts, but the uh people that was in charge of us in the nest all how to utilize the food that we ate to better our exercise routines. I thought that's the right way to say, I'm not sure. And that was I was able to get better at the things I was not good at.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

So did they give you a good insight and information?

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Or they did. And I didn't take it as seriously as I should have, because at that time I was still young, 20 on my own for the first time. A lot of partying, there was not the proper balance as it should have been. But I understood that though. Because a few years later, when I got out, and it was completely on my own, and the struggles I went through as far through as far as financially and housing and things of that nature, nutrition was elastic in my mind. It was just anything to survive the next day before I was able to properly get on my feet. But I always knew that okay, if I'm around the right people, if I'm around the right food sources, then I can make a way. So staying in the restaurant industry, okay, I'm gonna start working in the restaurants. Maybe there's something to this. This is before I even knew I wanted to be a chef. I was just thinking with something that I knew right away, that I already had a little bit of experience in. So as I'm navigating different restaurants, I'm still learning about how to properly feed myself the right way, even with minimal amount of money or minimal amount of resources. I learned I knew that it was still still important to me, figure out a way out of no way. Even if it was only a little bit, try to do it the right way and put a lot of the unhealthy habits to the side. I didn't do that, but I started to. It was a very slow gradual process for me on the health side. Now, this is still early 20s, into mid-20s. I got a job working for the regional cruise line. That not only changed my life, it saved my life in a lot of ways. Now I get on this on this ship. I'm starting to work for and with chefs from all over the country, not just the country of the world, different countries. So I'm learning about different cuisines, learning about different cultures, different types of restaurants on these different ships, different styles of cooking. And while I'm learning these different styles of cooking, these different cultures, I'm learning their healthy foods, their healthier options to the things that we eat here in America. Some of the stuff is the same, just made in a different way, healthier way. So I'm taking all that in. And while, yes, some of those still, those bad habits of being young, partying, all that was still there. I was getting into exercise a whole lot more. I was making friends with people who are in excellent shape, who took nutrition very seriously. And I'm looking at them like, if I want to get like that, I need to listen to what they're saying and do what they're doing. So I'm starting to learn more about eating habits, how to space out your meals, how to eat more, more meals if I want to get to a certain size, but my balancing my calorie intake versus my fat intake versus the calorie output, learning more about that. And then I'm starting to get health conscious about realizing I'm getting health conscious because I'm starting to care more about what I'm eating, caring more about what I'm consuming, and slowing down with a lot of the partying lifestyle compared to what I was doing a lot earlier before. And those experiences on the cruise line open over my eyes a lot because I'm working a whole lot more too, working 10, 12 hours a day, every day for months at a time, before taking like a month vacation and still living in Hawaii, dealing with a local Hawaiian diet, which was very popular. It was a lot of sodium, a lot of fat. And I was indulging in that before I realized I'm doing this too much. And then starting to, over time, like last three or four years, seeing other elder family members having health declines, strokes, cancers, starting to pass away. A lot of that was related to diet nutrition from years before, the way they grew up. And I'm thinking, oh, this is this is getting scary. Opening my eyes. Okay, I'm still having to slow down because I don't want that to happen to me. I don't know how much of that is genetic, and I don't want to add to it by the way I'm eating and not taking care of myself as much as I should. I guess I was exercising, but we're learning that I'm still in my early 20s. I'm still young, got all this energy. I'm working all these hours, doing all these extracurricular activities, not getting that much sleep. But at this time, I wasn't caring about not getting that much sleep. I was trying to live it up as much as possible. I had FOMO for real, bad, all the way up until like my early mid-30s. And I'm looking back, like I should have been.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

That's when I met it.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

Yeah. She met me during my transition phase while I was wisening up. But like health to me meant at that time, man, I need to preserve this youth that I got as long as I can. How do I do that? By slowing down, sleeping more. And that was a very slow gradual process. At the time, I was not sleeping that much because I wanted to do so much. That was infinite ambition before infinite ambition. That was the wrong way of looking at it. I was doing with too much too fast in a short period of time. So around 2006, 7, I left the ship. And there were some situations that happened in my life that sent me on a dialogue. Oh, dialogue spiral, about 25, 26. I was on a dialogue spiral for five or six months of just a lot of bad habits, not taking care of myself. And what made me wise up was this was about a year after I donated a kidney to somebody who I was very close with. My mother passed away in 2006, just before I left the ship. And that was very awakening experience for me because she had to deal with different cancers that ultimately um took her life. But before that, she was a heavy smoker my whole life, which was one of the things that made me never really want to smoke cigarettes. So when I when that happened, that was like like I respect myself. I thought, okay, this is yeah, I can't do this anymore. Although I wasn't feeling any ailments, I knew if I continued this past, all the ailments was going to come soon. Everything was gonna catch up to me. So Yeah, started taking it easy. And then I was really starting to focus on my belief started to buckle down and focus on my health. Uh started to exercise more regularly. My diet shifted from not caring to caring a lot. Just not wasn't perfect yet. Like I said, I was still indulging in some of those things.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

Because it was better then than waiting until now. Because now it would have been too late. So I feel like this was coming into my late 20s. And just starting to realize that I really had no excuses. I was getting compliments of people saying, Oh, you look young for your age. Okay, thank you. I guess that must mean something. I should lean into that and keep trying to keep that going as much as possible. Because I don't want to end up like other people that were around my age that I knew that was not looking their age, so looking older, because they was really, really deep into not eating healthy, indulging a lot of bad habits extremely much compared to what I was doing. And then yeah, trying to ignore any situations that was coming up in my life that would cause me to go off that path. That was always a struggle. But I felt like I won that struggle because when I made the decision to leave Hawaii, I felt like I was trying to go on an upward swing as far as like um my health goes. Because at that time I can't remember what age I was, 30 mid-30s, early 30s, when I left Hawaii, came to Colorado. I was probably in one of the best shapes of my life then and now. Your health will go on peaks and valleys, but that was one of the peaks, one of the later peaks when I left. Um body fat percentage was at its probably as lowest. I was my leanest, and I didn't really have any ailments, physical ailments. So I was taking advantage of the amount of youth that I still had left. And I realized don't take anything for granted with what you have. I was I felt like I considered myself lucky on the health end because of how I was living before. But when I started to physically take care of myself better, I was feeling it. I was feeling it a lot more. And being in a higher altitude, I was feeling the difference there.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

He had some time in Denver, which is my long city, right? So to acclimate a little before you got to 9,000 feet.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

Yeah, a couple months transition helped out a lot. And I've felt that right away, you know, waking up with nosebleeds every morning for about a week, a week and a half straight. And then realizing that, oh, whenever I drink alcohol, my tolerance was super high. That doesn't mean go crazy. That means go the other way. Because if I went crazy, it's gonna catch up to you, and like everything would just shut down. So I just cut that down a lot. And then moving to President Butte, higher elevation, working in 9380 hotel. I got my first management job. I was able to see everything, I started to see my age, feel my age a little bit, a little bit, started to feel the aging catching up to me. So I maybe go even harder on the nutrition side, on the exercise, the physical fitness side, exercising at home a lot more. And I didn't really have a plan. I just knew I wanted to be better and stay better. I knew there wasn't a way of reversing the aging process. I just wanted to preserve the feeling that I had, the youth that I had for as long as I could.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

Yeah. And well, I knew we lived in a very active community too. Everybody hikes and bikes and is very active.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

So that helps when you're very communicating compared to that, compared to from living where I was being around a lot of people who weren't in the greatest of health, out of shape a lot. Diet was terrible. It's like this is what I needed. This is what I needed. And I was meeting a lot of like-minded people. And it was I realized that okay, this is great to hang out, be around, surround myself with people who have the same mindset. Be fit, be healthy, yes, have your fun too, but in moderation, which was something that I was I'm glad that I was able to do. And by the time I was in my mid-30s when I met Abby, she met me during that time while I was ready. I was already ready to just like put a lot of stuff behind me, move forward. Um, I was maturing a lot. I was pretty much done with everything that was just a hindrance to my life, health-wise. And I was doing a lot of my own research. That was the thing. You're way past, I'm not in school, I wasn't in school anymore. I wasn't in college or anything like that. But the information I knew was out there everywhere. Internet, this before a lot of the AI chat chat engines were a thing. Just go in there and do your own research. You know, you have nothing but time to do it. Yes, I was working multiple jobs, working on a lot of music and all that, but there was still no excuse. I've had time to do all that. I had time to go online and just do research as far as my health, what to expect, just asking a lot of questions. Because that was times where I was being frustrated with like, okay, I want to get bigger, but how come it's not working? I want to lose, I'm starting to see a little bit of belly fat come. How can I lose that? Just start going online, asking questions, search, search, search, research, libraries, just books, just infinite information out there, no matter where you want to look. So that's why I just started doing and applying that to myself, and I'll start to see results. And that was exciting because I can no longer say, well, I got good metabolism because I'm young. Well, no, in a sense, yeah, maybe young, but that starts to slow down when you get a certain age. And I can speak for males, I can speak for a lot of men now. You know, when you mean your 40s, everything starts to decline. So you want to fight against that. You can't reverse it, but you can just maintain what you have. And before you know it, if you're sticking to it, the health-wise, nutrition, if you're sticking to the exercise, if you're sticking to stress management, if you're sticking to getting ample sleep, then you start to see not only maintaining, but getting better along the ways. And that's good for our mental health too. And that brings me to this present day. When I met Abby, I didn't know how deep her background was, but when I started to learn what her credits was what she was in school, what she learned in school, what she knew, I'm like, okay, that's extra motivating now. Because then I learned that about our age difference, like, I gotta wanna be able to keep up with her. Because I've kind of been older. I wanna be the old, grumpy, aging, ailing boyfriend, fiance, husband. Then when I learned, then we start talking about we got engaged.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

I think he was 12 years older than me when we first met. I thought he was way younger than he was.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

I thought she was older. She just seemed wiser and mature than most people I was meeting around ages.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

That was something that I think more of me had to get over than you, like yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

You know.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

Um not that it matters, but it's just and like I said, you didn't seem like you were because what you were in the my brain memories now. Um, mom brain, I can't think of 2018.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

So eight years ago, I just graduated or was about to graduate grad school. You were 37, 36.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Yeah. Yeah, and I was like, I don't want to be that old, aging, yaling boyfriend, fiance, husband.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

You are the younger than you better than me.

unknown 29:39

Right?

SPEAKER_00 29:40

Yeah, I didn't want to be aging famous while she was engagement gracefully. And after we started talking, after we got engaged and we started talking about starting a family, I'm like, okay, I'm definitely not gonna be that old dad, barely getting around keeping up with my kids. I'm gonna continue this health train going. And I learned how well she took care of herself. So and I wanted to fast forward to having help, but this was the way, way prelude to that. What's my motivation was for um just keeping myself right, even getting better. So I don't want to fast forward to the present too much, but that is bringing me close to the president. I hope that kind of explains my mindset along the age along the years from early followers back as we I could think three, four, four, five years old.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

So, what did health mean when you became dad?

SPEAKER_00 30:29

When I became a dad, health meant everything. Because not only did I want to get stay better for keeping up with our child, but I wanted to have something to teach to our child growing up. I wanted to, alongside you, instill those healthy values, those health and nutrition values in our child from the early once that we built that foundation. So she has something to grow on as she got older, not waiting until it's too late, get the healthy mindset in her before she gets heavily influenced by outside influences that may not be so healthy. Um then setting a good example for her, definitely setting a good example. That's one of the biggest things. Because when I had management jobs along my career, leading by example worked for me better than leading by verbal communication. So now, as a dad, you want to do both verbal communication and leading by example, because of course we say this all the time. The parents know the kids see everything we do, they hear everything we say, they absorb it, they soak it all up. So, my why not let that be positive stuff that they see in here, leading by example. I wanted to be the father that she sees when she's a teenager or when she's in her early, early teens, that she can look up and be proud of, like, wow, that's my dad right there. Or somebody should not shouldn't say that's that's my dad. Or I come to school events or graduations, whatever, she can not be embarrassed, or at least something she's gonna be embarrassed, no matter what you do, but at least not be embarrassed by the presentation or by what we do or what we've done for her. And just be something that a model that she can look up to, and I'm sure you can relate to that same thing as a mom. But um, yeah, if I'm gonna be if I'm gonna be that quote unquote old dad when she graduates, or where our next child comes when they're in their adolescence, their early teens or whatever, and I'm gonna be up there in age, at least be a great example of that, be a younger version of what they see a 45, 50, 60, 70-year-old dad is. So that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

And you did two half marathons since she was born, the two something years in a row. Something I never thought about.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

That was super motivational.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

She might not remember it, but yeah, we have pictures and she can look back on it or stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Or I almost forgot about that. At that, at that time, that was also a motivating factor of what health meant to me was being able to do something like that. Because the first one I did, I did just to see if I was able to do it, able to finish. I was never a big runner, a big fan of running, but the training I put myself up to to be able to do that made me respect running a lot more. And to be able to finish that cross-start finish line was a big deal to me. I didn't have to come in first, second, third, or a high number. I just wanted to complete it. And I did. So that was a goal that I accomplished. And then three times. The second time, I wanted to see if I could beat that time and be able to come across that finish line and see Ayla there.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Well, the first one you did was before before Yeah, like I said, the first one was just to see if I could complete it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

The second one was to be able to come across the finish line, see you and her there, even though she wouldn't remember it, just to see that that was keeping that in my mind the whole run. I was like, Yeah, I gotta get down to see them. So I did that, and I was surprised that actually beat my previous time. So the third time, I'm like, okay, yeah, let's see if we can was gonna do it together. It was gonna do it together.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Um we were gonna do that. Things coming up.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

But you know, new mom, a lot of things happening. I understood why they trained and really pan out. And it was like, okay, it's just rested out and understood time and fatigue. I get all that, so I didn't pressure her to like almost go, go, let's go, no. So I did that, and I didn't beat the previous time, actually matched it, which was weird.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Yeah, to the minute almost.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Yeah, I didn't you know that was gonna happen, but I almost missed you at the finish. But it was there though, it was there, and yeah, everybody. But the motivation wasn't to beat the time, it wasn't to complete it, it was just to see them at the finish line again, and I did. And Ayla was older, a year older, so she was a little more confident as to what was going on, and I did that, but I didn't have the same fire under me as I did the first two times. So I knew like, okay, this I don't need to do this again yet. I've proved it to myself already, and I've matched two of those, uh completed two goals, and I completed completed the third goal. So I didn't really have anything else to prove to myself as far as marathons and half marathons go. And I started to learn other ways to get good cardio in without putting any stress on my knees and hips and feet because running wasn't really my thing anyway. So I found out the ways, and those other ways became more fun for me, you know, like um impact combat training, like boxing trainings. I used to be in martial arts when I was a teenager, uphill walking, get a good calorie burn, better calorie burn, less impact on my knees. It's fun. And that's what I'm doing to this day. And that's yeah, that brought me to the marathon thing, brought up to help me remember that. Yeah, that was long on that subject, though. I kind of jumped back, but yeah. That was that in the nutshell, as best as best as I can remember. I'm sure after we've done recording, I might remember a few other things, which always happens, but yeah, that was the end of my long story about what health meant to me growing up, growing up. Hope I didn't miss anything. Uh thanks for filling in with the questions. Thanks for filling in with the questions. I kind of went off the rails a little bit a couple of times, but you brought me back.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

We try. We try. Okay, let's do our positive affirmation real quick.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

Okay. So as we do on this episode, we'd like to do our positive affirmation cards. As you see, our stuff together right here.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

Okay, take a number between one and eight.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

Seven.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Success in your life should be determined by contributions, not accumulations. By Arthur E. Linenhan. Lennon Linenhan. Linen.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

Sorry, I butchered that. So one more time, success in life should be determined by contributions, not accumulations.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

I think that's about paying it forward, being a bucket filler.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

And this goes along with everything you just said, right? So contributing to your health throughout your life, right? Um contributions into the health bucket.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

It's definitely about a five flag effect, you know, it's cause and effect. One action leads to the next action, leads to the next action. And I say it all the time. I'll say it in post. And I've said it before, I don't know where it originally was said. I don't know how I said it for a long time, but do something today that your treat yourself will be will thank you for. That's actually what it is. And then that's got for me.

SPEAKER_01 37:55

Awesome. Thanks for sharing.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

As we always say here at Hatton Health, we love to focus on family, health, growth, and empowerment. So let's make it happen.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Together.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

Yes, thank you for listening to episode nine. We will see you next week for episode 10, where Abby will break down what health meant to her throughout the course of her life. This is going to be one you do not want to miss. See you there.

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And quick announcement: if you are interested in learning how you can improve your family's health, create healthy habits, manage meal times easier, spend less time in the kitchen, but making that time more quality time as a whole family. We have a program just for you called Family Time. It is an online course and group coaching program. And we are starting a brand new group on August 1st.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

August 1st.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

August 1st. That's a Saturday. So people will sign up. Access to the course will start August 1st. We have weekly coaching calls with us for three months.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 39:07

Yours truly, you get to see each of us once a week. And also just lots of information. It's a community. So you get to interact with other parents, discuss wins, challenges, lots of great stuff. So if you're interested in that, let us know. Give us a comment or email us at hello at high and health.com and we'll get you on our waiting list. Again, it's starting August 1st, 2026. It's a three-month coaching program and an online course. You get lifetime access to the course and all the updates and any changes that happen.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

You get recipes, you get tech videos, kitchen nights, cooking tutorials, groceries not groceries tutorials, a lot of great information inside information.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

We talk about mindfulness, mindful eating, and how to apply that to your kids, no time strategies, all kinds of stuff. So if that sounds interesting to you, definitely uh let us know. We'd love to have you.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

Absolutely.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

Thank you. Take care.