Almost Funny with Judson Veach

Throwing up Information w/ Forrest Bopp

Judson Veach Season 1 Episode 10

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Forrest Bopp joins the pod to discuss Gen Z behavior, the 1960's, and digging large holes...

SPEAKER_02

You were the first comedian I saw do stand-up comedy in Nashville. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, hell yeah. Where at? It was at Eastroom. Okay, nice. And I remember I had signed up and I was like, all right, I was so nervous. Because I'd taken the class or whatever. And this is gonna be like testing my skills in in real life. And the first comic on the lineup, you know, just like a whatever-looking white guy goes up there. I was like, okay, I fit in here. This is gonna be fine. And you were so funny and polished. And I was like, my palms were started just like pouring sweat. I was like, I can't do this. You were like relaxed. I remember this is this is a stupid memory. Yeah. And I'll let you talk eventually, but that's not what this pod is about. It's mostly about you sitting there so I can talk. I got two drinks. Good. I remember you holding the mic stand with, and people do this all the time, right? I do this. Yeah. But you, the way you were holding it, I was like, I would never be able to hold that mic stand.

SPEAKER_01

You know what's funny? I actually hold it because like my hands kind of shake and not even a nervousness, I just always do anyway. And that is just I can steady myself right there.

SPEAKER_02

It is a total, it's a steadying force. Um, but it was crazy, I saw you like reach out and hold on to that. And it was, it was almost like it was like I was trying to learn the choreography of how to do stand-up. I was like, oh, you could put it right there and you could hold on to it. And I was like, I'm just trying to remember the words. Yeah. Because of course you're brand new. But that was one of the, and I was like late in the show, I was like 20 comics into the show. That was like one of the most terrifying two hours of my life. I bet it was sitting there. Were there a lot of people there? That was back when this was hot. It was hot. It was like crawling with comedians, and it had like, you know, open mic, like big timey energy where everyone's like, I'm the funniest guy in the world. I don't know even what everyone's doing here. I'm hilarious. And I was like, oh my gosh. And everybody, you know how you ever had this phenomenon where everyone seems physically bigger than they actually are? Yes. Where it's like, God, everyone's huge. I know. You know, you're like, what happened?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, this is a comedy. Any comedian that's big, I assume they're like six, seven, and every single one I've met is like four foot nine.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm like, but you're famous, so you have to be this size. I think it's because you make them big, but also because I idolized athletes growing up. To where anybody that I put on a pedestal now, I'm like, obviously, you're six, five, three hundred pounds.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I guess that makes sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because any famous person must be a giant athlete. Yeah, is what your brain is doing. For sure. Um, but that was you. You were 300 pounds to me the first time I saw you. Back in real life, 300 pounds of Forrest Bop. Oh, yes, Forrest Bop. Yeah, we finally got there. It's Forrest Bop. It's the 10th episode. Um, guys, if you've been following along, then that means you're the one person. This is basically like a Zoom meeting. We have about 50 people a week who hop on for a few minutes and then leave. But if you've been following along on social media, what's been successful is we've done some games and we've done some more structured elements. Uh, I'm gonna riddle this episode with those type of things. If you hate it, think of it as a commercial break. Yeah, I'm just I will play the games. We're gonna do the games. Yeah. Um, but then we'll also intermix some conversation and and a bunch of other stuff. This is this is gonna be one for the dudes. This is gonna be one for the boys.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I'm talking about. This episode's boys only. I've never had a woman watch anything I've done ever that's not my mom. That and she hates everything I do. So I've never had a woman enjoy any of my content. So that's perfect.

SPEAKER_02

Here's a credit Bonnie Blue sketch.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That that goes to show everything she hated.

SPEAKER_02

That's not a for the moms. No, it is not sketch. But it was successful. It was successful. Which I that's what I care about. That's all that matters in life. All that matters is make it successful. Doesn't matter about quality, doesn't matter about integrity. Not content. That's our almost funny motto. It's just be successful. Yeah. Uh does that count as warm-up chat? That was warm-up chat. Warmed up.

SPEAKER_01

This is the earliest I've ever done a podcast.

SPEAKER_02

We're doing it such an early episode today, but I feel like I'm on radio.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like I'm on like NPR or something. A little bit. It's the aesthetic here is so calming.

SPEAKER_02

Tell us about your new book. Yeah. We actually did that last episode. We did it, we did a very NPR-ish episode with Slingsby. Yeah, yeah. You talk about his book? We talked about his book. Yeah, he kept wanting to bring it up. He's kind of always in that mode, though. Yeah, he is. Yeah. All right. Well, with that in mind, to keep the podcast alive and to experiment with the new format. Um how old are you? 28. All right, that's exactly what I thought. Yeah. So do you think of yourself on a cusp generationally?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I would identify more with Gen X and Millennial, but Gen X. You mean Gen Z? Yeah, Gen Z, my bad. Damn. He's 300 pounds, he's 58 years old. Um Yeah, definitely more. I would say more Gen Z. All right. That's good. I am the lines where they basically say like, if you were born one year before me, then your life is infinitely better because it's like the worst thing that could happen is like having iPhones and Instagram when you go through puberty. And like the year they're like, you started to become screwed in 1997. Oh, which is when I was born. That's the cutoff. Yeah, 97. Instagram and my senior year of high school started at the exact same time. Like they it got invented while I mean in my freshman year of high school. Oh, freshman year. Yeah, way worse.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that is way worse. Yeah. Wait, so do you feel like you feel that on you? The technology on you? Yeah. Definitely. Do you have a hard time focusing? Yeah. Yeah. Big time. Okay. And you're on your phone all the time?

SPEAKER_01

I try not to be. I'm extremely conscious about it. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Are you a Reddit guy?

SPEAKER_01

You seem like a Reddit. Uh no, uh not really. I mean I delete it. Do you go look at everything everybody says about you?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. But that's where they're the meanest.

SPEAKER_02

Is Reddit. I don't think I have, you know, I wouldn't know. Because I tell you a couple years ago I had to delete Reddit because I was like, oh, they built something that was designed to ruin my life. For sure. Is what this is. This is the way I think about everything. And the and like the next, I'm like, everyone on here is like saying my thoughts. Because once you get far enough into your thing, yeah, you're just like this. So I was like, I can't do this.

SPEAKER_01

It was so mean. That's the meanest part of the internet.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they are mean.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there was a with the most famous Reddit page of all time in terms of comedy. Do you know what it is?

SPEAKER_02

Uh is it is it Brandon Schab or Jeff Don?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yes, it was the fighter in the kid Reddit, which just became like a shrine to hating Brendan Schaub. And it was just so, so mean, dude.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, it's it's it has the energy of the kid in high school that bullies you, but he's smart. Yes. That's the worst. That's way worse. You're a smart bully, and you're like, oh, because the dumb bully, you're like, well, at least I'm better than him and his life's gonna fall apart. But the smart bully, you're like, oh, I'm stupider and he's mean.

SPEAKER_01

That's it, it was so funny you say that. I was literally talking about that with Katie last night about who would be the most would you be the most scared to be really mad at you? And she said a couple people, and I was like, Yeah, but I've been called like a fat retard 900,000 times. Like I'm not gonna it's when people like can cut deal. I'm much more scared of girls than guys because they can be so much meaner. That's interesting on such a deeper level, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, well, yeah, and it also depends like your your particular brand of insecurity. I am very terrified of like the smart bullying guy. Yeah. Who's like, and they don't even have to be like big and strong. It's like somebody like I'm not gonna name people because no one will know who the hell they are, but you there's people in the scene where like I I'm on guard because I know I'm like they they could at any moment just like and I'm screwed. Wait, like who? Like, you know who does it all the time to me? And I just did a two-hour drive both ways is Macomb. Oh, Macomb's nasty.

SPEAKER_01

He is a girl, he is exactly what I'm talking about, where he's girl mean. Because I mean, my grandmother could beat up Macomb, but he is girl mean. And he also says it with a smile on his face, and he's nice. Yeah, and sometimes five minutes later, it was like, oh, damn, you just like went for my juggler, and I didn't even realize it.

SPEAKER_02

He's got the other thing where it's like other people won't even know that he's destroying because people don't even know what he's talking about. Yeah, and he'll say something and you do you go, oh shit, I am. I didn't even realize this whole thing about myself, yeah. And now you just said it, and now I'm stuck with that forever. Um, this is the this is the meanest thing. This is an example of that. It would probably get cut from the episode. When I was in eighth grade, the mean it's like humorously mean. I don't even know how to tell the story because when people hear it, they go like, Are you okay? Yeah. But I mean, obviously everybody knows I was doing ballet, so middle school is like a nightmare. It must have been. Uh I didn't know this till afterward. There were other guys that I met like in high school, like at like programs and stuff, and I'd be like, What was it like growing up doing ballet? And they'd be like, I just didn't tell anyone. And I was like, I wish I'd thought of that.

SPEAKER_01

Did you go around bragging about it?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I just would be like, Yeah, I do that. And then like if four people know that, it's like, but I started so young, it was like part of who I was forever. You know, so I was over it. I'd been through like every mean thing, like you said, I've been called like a fat retard a million times. You know, everyone's calling me all sorts of things that I'm not allowed to say now. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know what I'm referring to?

SPEAKER_01

I've heard people say to you and behind your back. You know, it's funny, I was gonna ask if you remember not to go back to the beginning. But were you wearing a suit at the first open mic you came to? Or dress clothes? You used to dress way too nice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, there was one that I had to because I was going to something afterward where I had to wear an actual suit. Yeah. And that was one of those where I had to practice like, it doesn't matter what other people think of me. I just want to do this. And I was like, this is a good exercise for me. But it was early. I would never do it now because I would be too self-conscious. Yeah. But it was early enough that I was like, you know what? Everyone's gonna think you're lame, but they're lame. That's right. But I I was better at it then than I am now. Now I'd be like, no, I am lame.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, now you've been on the other side of it too, and you see where they're coming from.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yes. But yeah, well, I also used to wear like what I'd wear to work. Yeah, that's what I meant basically. Yeah. So it wouldn't be like, but there was one time I do remember wearing a suit, but it was like, you know, collared shirts and stuff. Um and and I think I had heard somebody be like, you should dress like you do in your regular life, because that's gonna be your character. And I was like, I guess this is my character. Like, I'm like a dorky idiot who works at a job at a place. So much bad advice when you start. It's so stupid. Like, wait, what if you just wrote funny jokes? Yeah. What if you tried that instead of wearing it off the table? Yeah, I'm over that. Um but the the meanest thing was I was in eighth grade, and I was not my like it was like a different period of class. Like I was in second period, but I had to go back in and pick something up from the math teacher for some reason. So this wasn't my class, it was a bunch of other kids in my grade. And so I walk in the door, and it's a thing of like everyone looks at you because something like anomalous is happening, and I go up to the front and I get a piece of paper from the teacher, and I'm walking out, and then um this kid who's like on the very back corner is saying to the kid next to him, he goes, Oh, it's a ballerina! I'm like, here we go. And he does like to put his hands up, do, do, do, do, do, and then he goes, he sees me see that. And I don't know what my face looked like. I genuinely don't think I was like disturbed by it because this is just like par for the course. He goes, Oh, look, he's gonna cry. And uh wasn't. And then, but then he takes me to this, he goes, Oh man, I bet he's gonna kill himself. Oh no, now he's gonna kill himself. Oh fuck, and he's like, This is so crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Damn, that kid's funny as hell.

SPEAKER_02

But he invented like a whole backstory of my life. I was like, that is so much deeper than people normally go.

SPEAKER_00

That's like, did you watch Phineas and Ferb? Yeah. That's like a Dufenschmirt's childhood memory student. You remember those? I don't think Jensen will know this. Do you remember when they would show this?

SPEAKER_01

I will I that is a I've not thought about that in probably close to two decades. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00

There was this character, and every time they'd flashback to his childhood, he was getting like comedically like the most over-the-top insults thrown at him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, but I I remember thinking like it was at that point, because then he was acting out like me, like hanging myself and all this stuff. What was the teacher there? Oh, yeah, but it's like we're in the back of the room. And um I remember thinking like almost being grateful, it was so mean because I was like, this is like a spectacle. I was no longer offended. I was almost in awe. I was like, right, this is the meanest stuff like anyone could do it. Why is that bad? Well, I mean, it it felt pretty bad.

SPEAKER_01

What grade grade was this? Eighth grade. I guess I'm thinking of it too adultly, but I'm like, that's so unrealistic.

SPEAKER_02

A 13-year-old being like, let me play out the inner thoughts of another child as part of a bit. But that is so fun. That's something I would say now.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you're gonna cry? Oh, you're gonna kill yourself.

SPEAKER_02

He must have had mean, funny but mean parents. Yeah, no, I think he he was like obviously he was one of the kids. I was like terrified of this kid all the time because he was like getting in fights left and right, but like he had a hard life, I think. Probably. Yeah. I mean, there's probably so funny. That's always so funny. Yeah. Yeah. And uh so yeah, he was Brandon Schab and no.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, and then he actually ripped my head off my body. Then he killed me. Dude, little kids are so I did uh uh one of those Brooklyn Bowl shows. Oh, yeah, and uh, you know, there's actual little kids there. Yes. And they were so mean. Mean? Yeah, like like mean in way it was making me laugh so hard because the show is terrible, but only a way like a 12-year-old could. Okay, where after every punchline, the kid would go, Oh, jeez. And then you go. Oh, see, yes, the end of every single thing I said. Yeah, but it was making me laugh so hard, too.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, kids are they're mean and they're they're uh they if they're accurate, it's brutal. Yeah, they have a meaner, energy. Yeah, you suck. Yes, yes. Um, all right. Well, that was that was what I was hoping we'd cover today. That was my uh but basically taking us back to you're 28. So I feel like you're on a cusp. So I feel like you have a fair perspective of millennial and Gen Z. Definitely. So we're gonna do uh the game is who does it better? Millennials or Gen Z? Okay, hell yeah. And these are different things that millennials and Gen Z could do. So I want you to just tell me, you'll just answer millennial does it better or Gen Z? Okay, taking a group photo. Um I would say uh Millennial. Okay. Explaining the rules of a board game. Millennial. Keeping their opinions to themselves. Gen Z Drinking. Ah millennial. Facial hair. Genji Making a cup of coffee. Road trip etiquette Making Money Millennial Gotcha. Driving. Um Millennial.

SPEAKER_01

Making friends. Oh, they're both terrible at it. Uh millennial. Eye contact. Millennial.

SPEAKER_02

I'm over here, by the way, force. All right, that was good. That was fun. Hayden, do you have any qualms? Because you're what, 20? 24.

SPEAKER_00

Just turned 24. So you're you're deep in Gen Z. Were you did you feel besmirched at any point? No. Coffee I agree with. No, I think Gen Z's bad at a lot of things, to be honest. So I kind of agree.

SPEAKER_02

I think um which one did you say for taking a group photo was better? Millennial. Millennial, yeah. That that I agree with.

SPEAKER_01

That's more of a thing as opposed to where there's just gonna be a million snapshots and selfies.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think that's right. Um keeping their opinions to themselves. You said Gen Z is better. I agree with that. Definitely.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, millennials are like care so much more. Yes. It's also like you'll see it, like, yeah, they care so much more. Yes. About the dumbest things, too. Yes. Drinking, obviously, millennials.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, that's like a part of the culture. Facial hair. I I don't like either generation's choices.

SPEAKER_01

Millennials are more goofy. There was a lot, especially I had the problem with generations too is that like I'm on the line, so somebody a year older and a year younger than me are two different generations. Yeah. But also so like somebody who's 20 and 40 are so different.

SPEAKER_02

So Yeah, yeah, but like so far, the huge generations.

SPEAKER_01

The older millennials are like some of the worst people of all time.

SPEAKER_02

Older millennials. So what would that be? Like a four.

SPEAKER_01

Like late 30s, early 40s.

SPEAKER_02

All right. Expound.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I'm with the first to, you know, really be into, you know, you know this. The gentle parenting made some of the worst kids of all time. Ooh, let's talk about that. Okay. Yeah. And when I say facial, I was thinking of like hipsters who would like twist up a mustache. Oh, that is. As opposed to just a regular everybody says a regular beard or a regular mustache. And I would have both if I could grow anything.

SPEAKER_02

I think you have to. This is a weird opinion. I think you have to be 40 to do any kind of facial hair and make it look good.

SPEAKER_01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02

I hate well, well, some people's faces need it. Yeah. Mine. You think your face needs facial hair?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. I would look 40 pounds lighter if I had a beard. I carry all my weight under my chin.

SPEAKER_02

That's funny. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Um, yeah. I there's so many of these guys where I'm like, stop.

SPEAKER_01

Stop. The young, young guys. Or people forcing it, I can't stand, which is what I don't do. Yeah. Well, you it's just like it'll look like pubes all the time. That's what mine looks like.

SPEAKER_02

I see. So it doesn't come in like remote.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, the neck it goes crazy, obviously. I could grow a sick neck beard, but that would be good.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So you don't have it like, where do you not have it?

SPEAKER_01

It's like extremely right here. Little, you know the jackass where they glue pubes on the guy's face. That's literally what it looks like from here to here. And I got some right there, a little right there, and then the neck. I have it in all the worst places. Man. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, you didn't hit the facial hair lottery.

SPEAKER_01

No, I did not. Um. I got this.

SPEAKER_02

I'd rather have that. I I would too.

SPEAKER_01

I'll trade you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You still got it? I'm hanging on. I'm taking every medicine you can take.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'll take finasteroid. You do? Yeah. Oh. I gotta say, my mom is uh very vain, which is nice. What's that now? Because uh she literally the doctor was like, there's no side effects, so she just put me on it when I was 18.

SPEAKER_02

Whoa!

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's wild.

SPEAKER_02

There are side effects.

SPEAKER_01

Not for me. But yeah, some people get it. Not for me either.

SPEAKER_02

I I know there's like crazy side effects.

SPEAKER_01

Some people get depressed and some people can't get hard.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, I mean, so those are related. Um all right. That was fun. I like that. Oh, wait, general parenting made the worst kids of all time?

SPEAKER_01

Like it's a certain type, too. It doesn't mean these uh I hate people, I don't think you should ruthlessly beat your children, but just like, hey guys, they're never gonna take. Yeah, I have some people in my family that are older millennials and just I mean, their kids are demons.

SPEAKER_02

Well, here's the here's the what I would say. Permissive parenting is one end of the spectrum. Authoritarian parenting is the other end of the spectrum. Both are bad. You want to be authoritative. Yeah. And that's what, and you air on one side or the other naturally. So I will air permissive, permissive, permissive, authoritarian. Yeah. That'll be like my pattern. I'll do like let it go too long, let it go too long, let it go too long, throw something across the room. And then it's like that's what I'm worried about me doing. Yeah. Because you because it's in there. Like whatever you had is like the downloaded thing of like, well, we'll just yell.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I'm like, don't yell, don't yell, don't yell, scream.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I know my parents are pretty good about that too. They didn't really yell. But also, older millennials, this is why I said like early 40s, they created like the iPad children. That's such like a faux pas now. It's the parents' problem. And I actually disagree because uh I was too old to be an iPad kid. Right. And then also people my age, I mean, I'm on board with this, all my friends are, are going to be Nazis about iPhones. Yes. And and stuff like that. It's because it fucked us up. Yes. So we are like, don't want that. I'd like to hear that.

SPEAKER_02

That's my theory. Because I feel like we're on the front edge of that, where Sarah and I are very conscious. Like everyone who's like a regular age millennial is like counting the minutes of screen time a day. Yeah. We're like banding together about iPads and stuff. There was a Wild West moment where it's like, here's a new thing. This makes parenting really easy for this afternoon. And people went crazy with it. And then like it destroyed these kids.

SPEAKER_01

It destroyed. I mean, yeah. Just trying to talk to some. But now I think, see, people also will always say that it's going to turn into a parenting podcast, but that like they're going to be so behind if like you aren't putting in. First of all, so intuitive. There's a reason a baby can be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02

Behind the technology? Yes. No.

SPEAKER_01

But the other thing is, they'll be so ahead if they could like can speak and look at you and like have a critical thought.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. There's no, yeah, like you're saying, the the technology is so intuitive, they learn it in four seconds. Yeah. And I I I really do think it's like balance too. Like I can even tell in a day when my kids like go to the pool and we run around and we're outside, if they watch two hours of Of a movie, it it's fine because there's balance.

SPEAKER_01

A movie's fine too. I think the worst thing is scrolling and then they're like this. Like, are you on the uh Lee told me this that he doesn't show his kids any cartoons made in like the last 15 years? Because they're made to like get your kid you're made to make your kid like tweak if they're not watching. Coco Melon. Yeah, Coco Melon. We cut that one out.

SPEAKER_02

Because it was designed like in a lab to ruin your kids' attention.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um he's like 90s cartoons strictly for his kids. We do a lot of that, honestly. I mean, there's some really good new stuff they make. Like Bluey, I think, is like the best children's show ever made. Yeah. It's incredible. I talk about it all the time.

SPEAKER_01

Remember Lamont was like, yeah, we're really saying a lot of names, but he was like, I watched Bluey and I was like, what's your kids? And he goes, I like to get high and watch cartoons. I'm like, yeah, me too. Family guy. Bluey's for like what, two-year-olds? What's a little weird too? It's like newborn babies.

SPEAKER_02

Every episode is about like a very specific family dynamic of like the way it feels to have kids in a situation where it's like, we got no sleep last night, but we have to invent a game for the four of us. It's not like it's not like family guy where this is relatable to anyone's life. Like he should be put in a home if he's laughing at it by himself.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That was a little Where are you forced? Where are you at with Spongebob? Were you a Spongebob kid?

SPEAKER_01

That was so mine. No, no, that's it was my age too. But uh I grew up very, very Christian, and uh my parents would tell me I wasn't allowed to watch stuff and then they'd forget. So like I was and was not allowed to watch Spongebob like 10 different times. Oh. But also what they would do.

SPEAKER_02

What was not Christian about it?

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's that like we would make like too many gross jokes, and then they would just be like, Sponge. My parents also had four kids in seven years.

SPEAKER_00

So there's like a rift in my generation, maybe like kind of crossing into millennials of people like watched Spongebob as a kid or didn't watch Spongebob as a kid. Spongebob has been turned into this like fulcrum. Oh it's weird.

SPEAKER_02

I bet there's a Reddit about this.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sure there is. Um but also like I said, like my parents had seven kids, four kids in seven years. So like I think they didn't have time to investigate every single thing, and they would just go, eh, you guys are being gross, no Spongebob. And then like two weeks later, they'd be watching it and not even remember what it was.

SPEAKER_02

We for the first time cut a show out for the kids. What was it? I've never done that. It's a show called Ladybug, and it's on Disney Plus.

SPEAKER_01

And all the characters are trans.

SPEAKER_02

It's guy bug. Um I I'm trying to remember exactly what it was. It was something, it's like at a high school, but a lot of the storylines were like, I like that boy. I think he's gonna kiss me. And it was like too much like kissing talk, and they're like, you know, four and seven. And I'm like, they don't need this much kissing talk. And so we were like, guys, this is not a good show for your and they were lost, they were like, This is our favorite show, but it will become your favorite if you can't watch it. Yeah. Well, we're probably screwing it up. But I was like, I really don't want to No, you're not. I'm saying that it probably won't be here in a week. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he he still brings it up. How long has it been? Like three months. Oh, wow. And he'll be like, Can tonight can we watch Ladybug? And I'm like, no, dude. We told, but I think he's got the kind of personality that's like, if you tell him you can't, he's like gonna hold on to that for like a million years. Um, all right. That was fun. I liked that. Uh, there's like very awkward hard transitions, but I'll fix it in post. Uh, the next game we're gonna do, you saw Mike's episode where he did the liberal-coded conservative coded?

SPEAKER_01

I saw Ben Shapiro talk about it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I know. We're making the round. Shout out, Ben.

SPEAKER_01

How are you feeling, Ben?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, a favorite, a follower of the show. Yeah. Um, same thing. Liberal or conservative coded. Okay. Alcohol. Okay, got it. All right. So are these alcohols liberal or conservative coded? Gotcha. First one. Coors light. Conservative. White claw. Uh liberal. Jack Daniels. Conservative. Corona? Uh liberal. All right. Modello. Liberal.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Barefoot wine. It's conservative. Yeah. Crown Royal.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Liberal. PBR. Conservative. High Noon?

SPEAKER_02

Conservative. Alright. Guinness. Um liberal. I think so. Guinness. Tito's? Liberal. Oh, that one I thought it was hard, because there's like is there trashiness associated all the way around?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Tito's is so middle of the road, too. Okay. So like a lean lib. A lean lib, yeah. Captain Morgan?

SPEAKER_02

Um conservative. Yeah. Heineken. Conservative. Bush Light. Uh conservative.

SPEAKER_01

Twisted T. I would say liberal.

SPEAKER_02

Michelobe Ultra. Conservative.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Truly? Conservative. But like uh female conservative. Female conservative. Yeah. And the last one, Bud Light. Conservative. Back? It swung back?

SPEAKER_01

Of course it swung back. Even after the controversy? I that that controversy ended immediately. You know it's conservative because they lost so many customers that they had to completely pivot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Other companies could have done that and it wouldn't have affected anything. Yeah. Nobody stopped on a target. I guess that's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

People stopped drinking Bud Light. The core of their brand stopped using the product, which means their brand is inherently conservative coded.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. I also mixed up two beers. Okay. I say Modello, conservative, Heineken liberal. All right. I'll hit I'll give them to you again.

SPEAKER_02

Modello. Conservative. Heineken. Liberal.

SPEAKER_03

You delivered it like it was totally out of context. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01

I'm trying to make this hard as possible for you to edit.

SPEAKER_02

You are not the guest who's done that. There are other guests who have made it much harder. This is flowing too naturally. There's some of the early episodes, also because I just wasn't as getting into the group. It was like you could just see the bars. There's like a big blue bar, and like the number of like cuts in it was like 148. That's insane. For a podcast. That's crazy. It was so crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I also think I was being a maniac about it.

SPEAKER_02

Probably. Yeah. That sounds like you. Does that sound like me?

SPEAKER_01

Dude, when we were coming home from the open mic, not that I didn't already know you're crazy, but like we were went to some open mic and he just sat there and talked to me about how he would drive home from the Zanies open mic and be like, so there's this many people who go up this amount of times a month every other week. So you actually have like a 7.23% chance of getting up once a month. It was something crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I was doing the how many minutes do you have to spend? Yes, that's what it was to get minutes on stage. Because that's how I think of all of the mics. Where I go like or quote immediately. If uh yeah, we're we're like this podcast, we're on the last legs. Um yeah, it was it was something to the effect of like if you're spending three and a half hours here and there's six people getting pulled, and there's let's just say 30 people in the bucket, you have a whatever that is, 20% chance of being selected. So that means you have to invest three and a half times five for every two minutes. So it ended up being like you'd spend like eight and a half hours per minute of comedy. Now, there are other benefits to that particular mic that aren't just minute for minute trades. But you looked at me like, what the hell is this guy? And then then it was like, oh, I think we might actually have more comics selected. I was like, that's what you gotta do. You gotta affect the numerator. Yeah. And you're like, numerator? I haven't heard the word numerator in so long. Yeah, but I am kind of a kind of a crazy person when it comes to that sort of thing. And I'm hoping it serves me well and doesn't ruin my life. Um serving you well. But with that, let's jump into the next game. Because now we're we're in the commercial break portion of the show. Um, we're gonna do blind ranking. Okay. I feel like you understand this. Zach had no idea. I knew what is this game you made up? And I was like, this is like an established internet game. Um we're gonna do blind ranking comedy shows. Okay. All right, no peeking. Uh I'm gonna give them to you one at a time. You slot them in. We're doing seven. Seven, okay. So we'll have one through seven. Hayden is great at helping us keep track of this. I'm assuming that's what you're doing over there. Perfect. I'm just texting people. Oh, you do I know, you can do whatever you want. Um blind ranking comedy shows. Okay. First one out the shoot, The Office. Four. Whoa. Four.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, there's a few other I think you're gonna say, which is why I have to say that. I mean, I can hear the comments now. The Simpsons. Six. I mean, I appreciate it, but I I just I never really watched it that much. It kind of missed me.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Curb your enthusiasm. Two. Alright. That's informing what I think the rest of the list is gonna do as well.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Friends. Seven. Seven. Yeah, I I didn't peg you as a friends guy. No, it's terrible. Yeah. Did you watch? How much of it have you watched?

SPEAKER_01

I don't I mean full episodes, two parts of an episode, a hundred.

SPEAKER_02

Isn't that a thing in Gen Z is they don't like friends? Yeah, I don't know. No, a girl, it's just a girl show. Oh man. Well, hey. Call her me a lady. Um all right. It's always sunny in Philadelphia. One. One. Yeah.

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SPEAKER_02

That is such a bold move. That's what I was saving it for. I was hoping you were gonna say that. You were hoping I was gonna say that? All right. Arrested development. Oh three. Three? Yeah. You're really good at keeping the numbers available in your head, by the way. It's only seven. I think you have autism. Um, Seinfeld. Oh, what do I have left? Eight, nine, ten, and five.

SPEAKER_00

Eight, nine? Oh, wait, we only have seven. Sorry. You have you have five.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Five. Yeah, yeah. Your final one is Seinfeld if I'm gonna five. But I would change it, yeah. Seinfeld's definitely better than The Office. So if if you had your druthers, where would Seinfeld be in this? That's a really good question.

SPEAKER_01

Probably ahead of Curb or behind? No, probably behind. Really? Yeah, probably three. Oh, it's ri it's if I but it's just I have to be honest, you know, it's like people might say, George Carlin's my favorite comedian. Yeah. No, he's not. Yes. And you know, I didn't use a landline that much, which is a big part of the humor in Seinfeld, but I love Seinfeld so much. But Curb is just the little better version of Seinfeld. And I assumed you weren't going in cartoons because non-cartoons, it's it's always sunny. That's number one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, it's a great show. I love it. It makes sense, actually. Um, I wasn't thinking about it like from your like comedy and your humor as much, but just knowing the kind of stuff you do, they are like a classic forest thing is to have an impulse and then say kind of like an abrupt hyperbolic statement about it. Yeah. That is so such a funny character-driven show where that comes up a lot. Yeah. So it's really in the same style of humor.

SPEAKER_01

Do have to say that that show probably wouldn't exist without Seinfeld. It is dark Seinfeld. Yes. It's it's dark, poor Seinfeld.

SPEAKER_02

Um, the structure is is the same. Yeah, the way they use the settings and the character interaction. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then then I would go. I love a rested development. Me too. It's arrested development at when it's at its peak is, I mean, up there for number one. Yeah. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. I watch clips of arrested development on Instagram every day.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I I shouldn't, but when I first moved here, it was uh 2010. I didn't know anybody and I had no friends, and I was really depressed because I was living in the south by myself and my life had just fallen apart. And they that show kind of kept me going for a bit. Like I was just every day watching your rest developments, and that's my memory of that was like the I'm not gonna kill myself. Yeah, yeah. It can do that. Yeah, it was really important for me at a certain moment in my life. I I completely relate to that. Um all right, we got one more blind ranking in the blind ranking section. I think they're fun. I do too. Uh did you see McComb's clip where we did obscure sports accomplishments, blind ranking? Maybe. It sounds familiar. We're gonna run that back. Okay, all right. Um, so top seven again. They're obscure sports accomplishments. All right. Uh, and it's just about the way it would mean for you. So uh obscure sports accomplishments, first one out the shoot, super bowl ring, but you got it as one of the equipment managers. Are we doing seven again?

SPEAKER_01

Um I would probably say six. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Not yeah, so you're not even you have a ring. A super bowl ring.

SPEAKER_01

That's but everybody knows it's it's cool, but that's like barely different than just being able to like buy one off of somebody to me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're not even an athlete.

SPEAKER_01

You're not, but it's it's cool, it's an accomplishment. Yeah, but it's six.

SPEAKER_02

All right. I assume there's gonna be cooler stuff. Yeah. Uh this one you'll like. Nathan's hot dog eating contest runner-up.

SPEAKER_01

Um, seven.

SPEAKER_02

Seven.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

What? You know love for the runner-up?

SPEAKER_01

It's I I it's so disgusting. I don't enjoy it at all.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's great. Um bowling, a perfect game, but you're by yourself. Oh, that's good. Um, can't, but you I can take a picture, I can prove it. You can't no, you that's basically it's like you you know you did it, but there's no way to showcase to anyone else that it happened. Nobody would believe me. Um two. Okay, but you okay. So you feel like just knowing you did that would be a pretty big deal. For sure. Yeah. It is a big deal. It would suck if you couldn't in some way ensure it. Um first pick in the NBA draft, but your career is cut short after four years due to injury, never making the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I would say I want to put this one. Uh I'm gonna say one. One? Yeah. Because you are getting a bag in that time. Yeah, I know. You're just Greg Odining your way to I always think about that too, to where I'm like, I just I don't buy anything. Yeah. It would take so little in terms of NBA money for me to have money forever.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. No, I guess the accomplishment in that would just be the check. Yeah, I don't care about stuff. Yeah. Uh fastest mile time in the world among people over 60. Oh. Uh seven. Well, you did seven. You have five. You have six, too. Okay, five. Five? Yeah. All right. Wait, say five one more time. Five. Okay. That's crazy. So you don't care about old people?

SPEAKER_01

No, I mean, that's not really that big. I mean, I know there's a six-year-old who could beat me, but I don't care.

SPEAKER_02

I'm thinking of it as like when you turn 60, you run the mile. Oh, I thought you meant now. No, I mean like in your when you're in that age. Oh. Wait, what did I have left?

SPEAKER_00

You have three, four, and five.

SPEAKER_02

Three, four, and five. Oh, when I'm in my sixties? You are sixty. Oh, three. Three. No, no, no, no. Well, I mean, I think it'd be a huge these 60-year-olds are flying around. That's true. Like, Hayden, can you get us what is the mile time record for someone in the 60 to 64-year-old bracket? I've never tried. We'll see. Let's see if he can do it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I bet he can. For runners in their 60s, the world records for a one mile run depend on the specific specific age bracket. Um, Michelle Roll for women set a world record indoor mile time of five minutes 23 seconds. For men in the 60 to 64 age group, records sit around the 450 to five minute range.

SPEAKER_02

If you run the 450 right now, yeah, that'd be crazy. I thought it was gonna be slower. That would be insane. That would be insane. Um, that is wild. Olympic bronze medal in race walking.

SPEAKER_01

Um four.

SPEAKER_02

Four. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds problematic, that sport.

SPEAKER_01

Race walking? I mean, I can cross the street faster than anybody when a black guy comes my way. I mean, that's what it's sounds like. What?

SPEAKER_02

Like you doing race walking is like, I bet you do race walking. Um and finally, beating your dad in arm wrestling.

SPEAKER_01

I guess I only have five left, right? Yeah. Your final one. Yeah. That one means very little to me, so I could probably do that pretty young. You think? What age could you beat your dad in an arm wrestle? 18. 18? Probably. Yeah. Definitely, I mean, now, easily. But um, yeah, probably around then.

SPEAKER_02

I think it's gonna be harder, like it's gonna be later that accomplishment, because so many dads lift now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, my dad does too, but he just like I don't even know how I came from him. He has trouble keeping on weight. Oh, he's like the opposite. If he doesn't work out, he'll like turn into a string being.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So, and that's gotten worse. He's gotten older. So yeah, I was probably stronger than him my freshman year high school. All right. I mean, uh college.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, that makes more sense. Yes, that would have been crazy. Right. I was 300 pounds. Yeah. Not far off. Oh, man, that's good. Forrest, when we were doing the pre-interview, uh-huh, you said, hit me with some history stuff. Yeah. I am a fan of history. I like reading, I like listening to books about history. I'm not gonna pretend like I read. Um you don't read at all? I have a hard time reading. That shocks me. I might be dyslexic though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I'm too, and I can read. You're dyslexic? A little bit. Yeah. Uh undiagnosed, but it comes up almost daily. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I we've talked about this in the pod before. Like, I like write words out of order when I'm writing.

SPEAKER_01

It's I have I'll just read like if that's just orange, I'll read like uh if I glance, I'll read range. Like that happens to me frequently. Okay, so yeah, you do have something going on.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, something I uh yeah, I also might have like an attention issue. Um, but I think in a perfect environment, I would be a reader if all the synapses were firing correctly.

SPEAKER_01

Um you just have to do it. It is one of those things where you do it, it gets easier. Yeah. If you go like six months without reading and try to pick up a book, you're like, why is this not a picture of an ass? Yeah. But then it gets moving. That's crazy. Do you have a particular era in history that's your favorite? You know, um right now I'm the I'm balls deep in the 60s, big fan of it. Oh also think it's the most similar to right now. But I'm almost uh just complete loss in faith of the system. Yep. War going on that literally nobody supports. Yep. Uh CIA going crazy. There we go. Um, and uh yeah, just it's just a lot of unrest, very similar to the 60s, and it's for similar reasons. Yeah, including an anti-war movement. And I'm reading a book called Chaos right now, which is about the CIA basically like you know what MK Ultra is? Yeah. Using MK Ultra.

SPEAKER_02

And people don't know that that it is.

SPEAKER_01

I guarantee you, no one who's ever watched one of my videos knows what MK Ultra is. Uh MK Ultra basically is the CIA in the 60s, all the way up into the 70s and 80s, they probably still do it, would uh dose people with different drugs, specifically acid, and study them like they would hire prostitutes and just study them through like a wall for 12 hours. They would try to get them to they would the main thing they want to do was like be able to take out a memory and replace it with a different one. Because they wanted to be able to get people to kill people for them and not remember they did it, which they're pretty sure they did succeed in. And then also, you know, just going in and using people like Charles Mason to completely destroy the hippie and anti-war movement because he made it look so terrible.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. Yep. And that's what the book is about?

SPEAKER_01

It's it's a it's about a guy who basically was uh is a journalist.

SPEAKER_02

Nonfiction?

SPEAKER_01

Nonfiction, yeah. Um I really don't read fiction, and uh he was like wanted to try to find something to write about, and he was like, oh, the um I guess 30th anniversary of the Manson Murders is coming up. I'm gonna do like, you know, like a thousand-word piece on it, and then ended up completely taking over his life, and he never even did it. He started pulling at threads, yeah. And then he found and he like, yeah, found so many inconsistencies, realized how deep it went. And uh it's fan. Yeah, I'm not done with it yet, but basically he was supposed to like write an article over the course of a couple months and then worked on this book for like 25 years. That's awesome. Yeah, and that was like all he did. I love a pulling at threads story. It's I mean that's so good. And like he like stuff so crazy, even though he had proof, he was still scared to tell people.

SPEAKER_02

It's uh it's like Zodiac.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you know, it's got that, but this is a much bigger scale thing. Yeah, and it's stuff now, it's so funny. Like in 2026, people would yawn at this stuff. Yeah. But saying that the government like would give people acid and have them kill somebody in the 90s was outrageous.

SPEAKER_02

What I think is too bad is we've gone so far into like everything is a conspiracy now, or like, what conspiracies are you into? It's like there's really cool, interesting stuff that you could, in like the proper factual way, actually get to the bottom of. Everyone's so quick to just be like, oh, it's like a lizard or whatever your thing is.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think most of that's fake. Because like CIA was really big into that, which was they invented the term conspiracy theory to make it sound like your nut job if you don't believe anything that's the official story. Okay. I think like they put in lots of crazy information to make people sound bad shit.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's probably a very reasonable estimation. The problem I have with it is then it's like all these people in my life who I have to talk to who are stupid. Yeah. And then I'm like, well, you're stupid and you have a theory. It's like there should be some kind of a threshold.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It sounds so, I mean, uh duh, but in terms of if I would listen to somebody on I love conspiracies, I'm a big conspiracy guy. Yeah, you gotta be willing to be like, I was wrong about that. Or if something, if you if I have an opinion and somebody comes and shows me something that proves it wrong, I'll go with you. Because if you're too batshit, nobody will believe in conspiracy. Yeah, then you're just their whole goal.

SPEAKER_02

You're ruining conspiracy. Yeah, exactly. Yes, because I I totally love the spirit of like, let's get to the bottom of things. Yeah, that's very fun. But it's killed my spirit. My spirit of getting to the bottom of the things is that I I'm just like, you know what? It is what it is, because I'm sick of you guys being dumb. Yeah. So I'm just gonna pretend like the CIA never did nothing, and then then you deal with it. Yeah. Right. Uh, CIA is really good, and I think they never made a mistake. I love I love flock cameras. I'm big into it. I think they should give people more acid. Yeah. So yeah. So maybe they should, man. That's a fun poll for like favorite era. I'm like a I love Civil War. Me too. That is such a crazy. I mean, honestly, it's another like the inflection point here. It's similar. Yeah. Um also the 60s. Yeah. Also the 60s. That's like, what's your favorite era? Jim Crow. Yeah. It's like, all right, Forrest.

SPEAKER_01

Um, yeah, I do love the Civil War.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah, it's good. Um, I want to try this. This is the least internet-friendly portion of the show. This is like my failed attempt at coming up with a history still. I bet you're wrong. You think it's big? I know it's big. I just I don't feel like I'm seasoned in that corner of the internet, so I don't have the instincts to feed them what they like, if that makes sense. Okay. But we're gonna help you. Thank you. And I I like that you believe in me. Um, we're gonna do a one-minute game. So, Hayden, if you can help us with the timer on this, so you're gonna give us the uh like you're out of time signal. Do you want to have a special thing that you say for that besides you're out of time? Oh, should I have a special thing? Well, you know, make it your own.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I'll come up with something.

SPEAKER_02

I want you to feel like you have room to fly, you know, creatively on this podcast. That means a lot to me. This is an MK Ultra in here. You you're your own autonomous person. Well, you did give me a tab before we started. I did. Yeah. We're gonna make him kill somebody. Yes. Um, all right. On at the end of my question, I want you to hit go.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_02

In one minute, name as many first ladies as you can think of. Oh, God.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Um, Melania, uh, Jill, Michelle, uh was it Barbara? Bush, yes. Hillary, yes. Oh god. Jackie. Yep. Uh damn, I did not know the first ladies. Damn, Abraham Lincoln had a weird wife, and then I'm forgetting her name. Um I can picture some of them, but 30 seconds. That might be it. Oh, wait, wait. Nancy Reagan? Yes. There you go. Goat throat. Throw goat. Uh I think that's it. You got no more? Oh, Eleanor. Oh, see? Okay, hold on. I'm going through um 10 seconds. You'll get one more. Who is George's wife? George. Oh, senior? Or junior? Oh, wait. I thought that was Barbara.

SPEAKER_00

The end. Washington. The end has come.

SPEAKER_03

More the fuck.

SPEAKER_02

Damn it, you're right. You're right. Oh, man. We got Lady Bird in there. Who's Lady Bird again? Lady Bird Johnson. Oh, yes. Mary Todd Lincoln. Mary Todd. That was another one. Mary Todd? Okay. Oh, yeah. That was bad at that. You know, but you were really good. Kind of bad at that. That's gonna work for the internet. People are gonna be dying to go, yes, Lady, I couldn't think of it. Right after.

SPEAKER_01

I read so many books. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But also, who cares? Well, and that was what I was thinking too, is like having it sprung on you like that is the hardest way to think of stuff. Yeah. All right. Well, that's fun. I have no idea how this is playing, like on the other end of the screen where it's just like endless games one after the other. But we talked about history for a while. I'm enjoying myself tremendously. I think this is it's more fun. I'm having fun. Honestly, it's more fun for me to screw around than to be like, let's talk more into the first. All right. These, these I'm excited for. Okay. Uh the the premise of this, and I don't know how I'm gonna make this quickly accessible in an internet style video. Maybe I can use on-screen text. You're comparing having one day to do something with having one year to do something. Okay. Uh, and it's a hypothetical scenario. So for one million dollars, you could you get one day to memorize the Gettysburg address and recite it perfectly, or you get one year to recite the I have a dream speech and say it perfectly. Gettysburg Address, 270 words, two minutes long. I have a dream speech, 1600 words, 17 minutes long. Gettysburg Address. You want to do 24 hours, I'll learn the game.

SPEAKER_01

24 hours, I also have had a chunk of it memorized in my life, and I'm hoping it's still back there and I could, you know, take an Adderall and bang it out in a day.

SPEAKER_02

So I felt like I would want to do the Gettysburg address, even though, because like in theory, 270 words over 24 hours versus 1600 words over a year, you would think like one year, you have so much more time per word to learn it.

SPEAKER_01

But you said you have to do it perfectly. Yes. You're so much more likely to miss something in that amount of words, even if you have a year.

SPEAKER_02

But but couldn't you flub one word more easily because you've had it less in your body, like your muscle memory?

SPEAKER_01

I actually just cause they because uh you can like I used to have teachers be like, nobody's let a study once you come in here, because they would call it like throwing up information as like that's not gonna stick with you, but like you could like just and like if that's the first couple questions, get it. So, and I think that like, dude, if you like for like a psychopath sat there and said the Gettysburg Address over and over again for six hours, you'd have it. You'd have it, you'd have it.

SPEAKER_02

I know, like two minutes to me, too, like 270 words, two minutes. That's like a couple, you know, pieces of paper worth of words. The only thing I was thinking that you could do is you could turn the I have a dream speech into a song. Yeah. And you could be like, I literally can't mess it up because I have it like rhythmically memorized. It's a little tune, is it? Yeah, yeah, for sure. My brother. Yeah, so I uh I think I'm with you because also I was like, if you had it hanging over your head for a year, that would stress. It would ruin my life. It would ruin my life. I'd be like going to bed at night being like, I have a dream. Like, I can't have that sitting with me that long. Like, let's just do it 24 hours. Boom, I get a million dollars, I get a million dollars. If I don't, I don't. Yeah. Um I'm with you. Okay, I think we agree on that one. Hypothetical two: one day versus one year. You golf? No. All right, it doesn't matter. Okay. Um, one day to hit a 100-foot putt. That is a far putt. Yeah. There's a video of Jack Nicholas doing it. We're gonna pull it up right here.

SPEAKER_01

I have seen it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so you know the video in question. So that's far. It's really far. Or one year to hit a hole in one on a par three, 180 yards.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I thought that's what you were gonna say, and that's gotta be the putt, not even close. Not even close. I'll never get a hole in one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you the putt.

SPEAKER_02

This has, I think, a lot to do with your level of golf ability. Because I feel like if you were even a pretty competent golfer and you were like, I can get a million dollars if I just sit at this par three for 365 days just shooting shots at it over and over and over, I feel like it's almost guaranteed that you get one. Like if you can hit the green even a third of the time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I but I'm like not a competent golfer.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So for you, the putting.

SPEAKER_01

If I went and drove right, like if you were like just set it up right there, I would probably swing and miss on my first one.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, if you're at that, if you can't make contact with the ball, you obviously are putting. Yeah. Because you can you can get a feel for it. And now you've got, I mean, how many putts could you do in 24 hours? Thousands of putts.

SPEAKER_01

But if I but if I had played more than three games of golf in my life, it probably is hole in one. But I'm just I'm starting at like negative 10.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, if you've got if you have to learn how to golf. Yeah, I mean you're gonna spend six months to learn how to like even get the ball to fly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, correct. Yeah. Well, what are you taking, Judson?

SPEAKER_02

I'm taking the putt. Okay. After all, I was trying to make a compelling case for the the the reason I'm taking the putt is because I think within the first 30 minutes, you're gonna have the speed like dialed. So you're gonna know like this is how far back I need to swing. Yeah, this is my speed. And if you can get that distance somewhat accurate, yeah, the read is gonna be wonky, but like you're gonna get it. I mean, you could do it by accident, though, for 24 hours. I mean, that's yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas like you could get on a on a run where you're like, you could like develop the yips hitting a ball at the same hole for a year. Yeah, Charles Barklin. Damn, you're making me want to try these. I know. I think this would be fun. I mean, we just gotta set aside a couple years, yeah. A couple days, we chose today, we chose all the days. All right, this one is my favorite one. Um you have one day to completely bury your car underground. Okay, no motorized tools, or one year to build a house by yourself from scratch.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I just don't know how. Well, YouTube it's you. Yeah, it's gotta be car. I don't the car would be really hard.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, this this is what I really think. The soil is gonna be the biggest determinant for what I pick. I guess if you were mud, you could do it, but if it's like sandy or muddy or like light, easy to move, if it's rocky at all, I just don't think it's possible. Yeah. Without tools to do it in one day. So I think you'd almost have to on most surfaces do the house.

SPEAKER_01

Do you know what I don't I don't think the movie holes is accurate, but it took them a long time to dig a six by six-foot hole.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I I mean, that's a huge hole.

SPEAKER_01

But 24 hours, if we're saying your life depends on it, you might be able to do it.

SPEAKER_02

If with the bury it and then cover it up?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're covering up wouldn't take that one. They're covering up, yeah, but you're gonna be exhausted. I mean, you're gonna be like drained. Yeah. In my head, these scenarios are like my wife is tied up. I was saying it was for it. So for a million dollars, you know, that's counts for way more. So yeah. Of a million dollars. I thought it was my wife. Can you kill her and give me a million dollars?

SPEAKER_02

Um Damn. I think honestly, I think I would do the house. Yeah, that's wild. Do you know stuff? I mean, I know you're a realder. I mean, I know like the basic steps of putting a house together. What about like plumbing and electric and stuff? We count that? You do you have to do all that? So it has to be a functional full. It has to be electric. There has to be all of it. But I'm telling you, like a year. I know it's like no time to build a house, but like a small house, like a two-bedroom house. I think there's gonna be problems with it, obviously. It's not gonna be perfect, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But you're you get no help from anyone. No, you can't look at it. You can like drive your truck to the store and get the stuff. Oh, tutorial.

SPEAKER_02

It's gotta be part of it. Of course. Obviously, that's part. You can't just be like you're not just feel it out two by fours with a hammer. This looks like uh wood, you know. So you can't do that. But I think that you could chat GPT your way from nothing to a house. I'm not even saying it's probable you could do it. I'm saying it just feels almost impossible. Size of the car matters. Bury the car. Well, even a small car.

SPEAKER_01

Of course, but it would be there's no way you're gonna get an F-350 underground and as opposed to like a hybrid.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm trying to think. Like, I don't even think I could bury I don't think I could bury any size car. I don't think I could bury a smart car in a day. I for I want to try all these so bad now.

SPEAKER_00

What about the three of us? Just forget, forget the thing.

SPEAKER_02

Could we bury, could us three bury the car 100% in a day? Bury a car in a day? We've three shots. Not in Nashville. I'm telling you, the ground is too rocky. I don't think you could do it without power tools on most surfaces.

SPEAKER_01

Let's just say regular a place where you could dig. If the soil will move, we could bury a car in a day.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the three of us 100% could do it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, we could.

SPEAKER_02

But it's soil dependent. I did a French train in our backyard. It took me a week, and I'm just build digging a tunnel that's like, you know, 16 inches deep. But it's so much rock. Yeah, the rock makes it impossible. Yeah, because it's like each time you're like one inch in the middle. You need like one camera, yeah. Yeah, I had to get like uh a tilling thing. So I'm in this case, I'm building the house. You're digging the hole. You're just you're just trying to dig a hole in the house. I'm trying to dig a hole. You'll have a big pile of dirt and no buried car at the end of the day. Yeah. Um this is a how many years hypothetical. Okay. This is I've done this one with buddies before, and it is controversial. Um, I'm gonna take that again. It is controversial. I like controversial. I'm a big shortener. I gotta stop doing shortening. Um how many years would it take you by yourself to invent the internet?

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02

Now here's the here's your resources. Okay. Let me list your resources. All printed knowledge. Anything that's in a book, you can use. Anything that's in a store, Home Depot, um, you know, uh Best Buy, but if it has the internet as a part of it, it doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I'm s the answer is never, but well, you have infinite time. Yeah, I mean, then like 50 years? You think you can do it in 50?

SPEAKER_00

50 years? I was gonna say like a hundred years.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you're saying we can go past life. Oh, you can yeah, not not in your lifetime. You have endless lifetime.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, then probably like 200 years. 200 years by yourself to do it? You have everything leading up to right before the internet was invented? Yeah, well, you don't have to start at zero. It's 2026. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

So you have all the knowledge of like they wrote a book about AI, they wrote a book about all this stuff. So you just have to be like, let me start, you know, gluing hubcaps together and you know, making antennas. I don't know how any of it works, but there's people who like build computers and stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you so you have you can buy like pre-built computer parts, right? Or you said anything in a store.

SPEAKER_02

So it's almost like like in um what is that movie with Will Smith? Uh where he's I am legend. It's like I am legend, where like all of a sudden you're the only person on Earth. Okay, got and to like restart Earth, you have to make the internet.

SPEAKER_00

So you have to build like chips and everything.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, anything, I don't know what the internet needs, but chips, salsa, whatever.

SPEAKER_00

Even just building a computer, building a computer from scratch would be like I have a computer science degree. That would be insane. The amount of shit that goes in. I don't know, dude. I'm like, I'm in the time here. So don't think about it in terms of like, oh, we're gonna say a thousand?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, uh, he says that because he knows why we're not doing two thousand.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, no, I don't know, man. That's so complicated.

SPEAKER_02

Think about it. You got little pieces of metal, you start welding them onto other pieces of metal, all of a sudden, emails are flying.

SPEAKER_01

Not only can I not believe it exists, I can't believe anything happens ever. I don't understand how there's governments. I can't believe there's like financial transactions that isn't like here's this rock for this apple.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I used to try to do a joke towards like if everybody had my knowledge, we would be in like 10,000 BC.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it does feel like that because stuff is like so out of comprehension. Like I can't even begin to imagine.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't know. I don't I can't believe any of it. So you think a what's your Hayden, what's your real guest?

SPEAKER_00

As a computer science guy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you could do it less than a thousand years.

SPEAKER_00

The thing that's tripping me up so much is like I did a whole computer science degree, we didn't even talk about building the art. Like that whole degree was just it was a waste. Here's how to use what already exists. That and it didn't even scratch the surface. So to build it from fucking scratch, dude. I think we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02

We're missing a key part of the hypothetical, which is to what degree does the internet have to exist? Do you have to have servers that can do AI level activity? Well, that would take thousands of years.

SPEAKER_01

Let's say you can like let's say like two thousand internet, like you could look up a video of a cat.

SPEAKER_00

I think you could do that kind of quick, dude. A thousand was too much. I I think in the hundreds of years, though.

SPEAKER_02

Look up one video of a cat. That's what we're trying to do. Watch it. But then you gotta have YouTube.

SPEAKER_00

You gotta have a you gotta have an internet that has servers to even have videos of cats on it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you build it. You just you upload the video yourself and then look up. Yeah, you you're not like I don't know how you would do it otherwise, but yeah, you have to upload the video and be able to watch it from anywhere, the way internet works.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe I'm back to Forest and I's original, like 100 to 200 years. I think you could do it faster. Really? I think you should dedicate the rest of your life to the video.

SPEAKER_02

If you had you're in a jam, you really gotta do it fast. All right. All you're trying to do is one cat video. Okay. So I would be like, what do you do first? What do you do first? You you get like all the base knowledge of you spend like a year becoming like basically an expert on the origin of the tangible building blocks of the internet. If you're just reading stuff all the time. Can I tell you though, what I'm realizing now though? What just from building stuff where you have to like read the instructions? I feel like it would be so hard to not be missing like little really important details.

SPEAKER_01

I can't build IKEA furniture.

SPEAKER_02

You miss like one basic core idea and start going. You could be building something that like has no possibility of working for like 18 years.

SPEAKER_01

That that would be me, because I am the person like if I put this together, I'd be like, why doesn't this not fit? And then I'd like to see you screw on the other side of the room. That was the second piece out of 500. Yeah. So I would have to start over so many times.

SPEAKER_02

I would be starting over on that project a lot.

SPEAKER_01

On things that probably took years.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I'll say 200 years. Yeah, probably like a thousand years.

SPEAKER_02

Thousand was crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Thousand? A thousand years. That's such a I can't even comprehend that.

SPEAKER_01

If you're going from scratch, it was way more than a thousand.

SPEAKER_02

Of oh well, because of so many individual people. Yeah. So everybody's lifetimes put together. Oh, that's a good thing. You have thousands of people who are all using huge portions of their life. I think to make the internet, yeah, it's probably like a million years. Yeah. But your caveat of you have all modern. Yes. Like they've done the work, they've figured out there should be a path. I bet there's a guy who could do it in like three months. For sure. You know what I mean? Definitely. He's like, I know this is what I was born to do. Right. But all right. Well, I think that was a fun one. That was a fun one. All right. Do you have any hypotheticals for us that you're like, oh, me and my buddies always run this one out?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's a good question. Um they're all disgusting. I'm trying to think of one that's not a good idea.

SPEAKER_02

It's hard to not do like would you have sex with a gorilla for a thousand dollars?

SPEAKER_01

Because the one that we used to always ask was, actually, I'm not gonna ask. You this you'd just cut it out anyway. Thank you. Um I used to play the hypotheticals a lot, and I'm like completely blanking right now on any that are not deeply sexual.

SPEAKER_02

Here's the hypothetical I always do with with buddies. You don't know the setting and you don't know when, but you have to fight either a human with hawk level intelligence or a hawk with human level intelligence.

SPEAKER_01

Human.

SPEAKER_02

You would fight the human with the hawk level intelligence?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's not even close. What are hawks smarter than humans? I'd rather fight a bigger a human anyway. Well, think about it. This is the thing. Dude, the hawks will if they're zooming in you a hundred miles an hour with the I know.

SPEAKER_02

They they've got you know And then they're also smart

SPEAKER_01

You would lose to a hawk with a human's brain.

SPEAKER_02

This is the one caveat I must have a gun or something. Both beings want nothing more than to kill you. I was just about to say that. So this is a human body that with a hawk-level knowledge of the world wants to destroy you. Now a hawk also wants to destroy you, but it's got the human intelligence. I feel like we sometimes overvalue human intelligence. Because like what human? I feel like is the bigger question. If it's like a super, it's not like Jason Bourne. That is true.

SPEAKER_01

And now that I'm thinking about it, it's like, I don't know what trickery they're gonna pull on me.

SPEAKER_02

What do they do? What do they really like? It's somebody's aunt. It's like a median person level intelligence. It's like a pacifist.

SPEAKER_01

But I still feel like I don't know. If somebody's really dumb, I feel like it could help in a fight.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe not dumb, but if you're a hawk, you've got to be cunning. You've got to be like have a strategy. And I think the median person, if they're all of a sudden in a hawk's body, is gonna be like, oh, what do I do?

SPEAKER_01

Oh god. Change it to a hawk because if you're really rolling the dice, but at one point they're gonna die-bomb you and you're gonna get fucked up. It's like I've always said, I think that in a fight to the death, I would beat almost any dog on earth. And I think that I would be severely wounded, but you would find a way. Yeah. Strangle it to death. And if a hawk is coming at me, like you just know eventually you get if you grab it. If you grab it, I can rip its head off. Exactly. And you just think that it doesn't hit like an artery.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's what I mean. It's like the hawk would have to be so strategic.

SPEAKER_01

You're right, it's a hawk.

SPEAKER_02

So you'd rather fight the hawk with human-level intelligence.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, we're assuming it's not like a chick.

SPEAKER_02

Like the human as well. Yeah, yeah. No, it would be like a comparable size person. Okay, gotcha. Um yeah, I just feel like that would be such a better because even if it was a really smart person, I feel like that's gonna be really hard. Yeah. Because you're so much bigger. So like let's say it's like nails it and it like goes right in your eyeball, and you're like, this is the worst moment of my life, and I'm half blind. Yeah, what's it doing then? If you if I can get it, it's if you if you get it for a second, you're just like boom, dead, it's over.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Um, all right.

SPEAKER_02

See, that was fun. I like a good one.

SPEAKER_01

I like one where people change minds. Yeah, you do change my mind. Yeah, I need to think about it for talk about it for a second.

SPEAKER_02

We're gonna talk it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right. Some controverse hypothets. I I like the hypothetics. I know, I love them, dude. I do too. If you were to talk about things women do not care about, they hate them. Hypothetical questions is number one.

SPEAKER_01

That's because they don't have critical thinking skills. Well, you know what it is, though?

SPEAKER_02

Well, okay, we'll cut that.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's because women have the mind of children.

SPEAKER_02

No, dude. We care about different hypotheticals. Right. Because every woman hypothetical is like personal. It's relationship-based. Well, yeah, it's like, if I had no legs, would you still love me? Like they love that hypothetical question. But it's not like, would you rather race a monkey or a raccoon?

SPEAKER_01

They just don't like stuff that's fun. It's no fun. Katie does ask me like everything's the same, but would you still blank, would you still be with me like once a week?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. That's uh that's like a core hypothetical, but it's personal. Yeah. Every guy hypothetical like has nothing to do with them. Yeah. Unless it's like, will you suck a dick for a million dollars? But like, even that is like we this is just you know, whatever. I like your joke. I'm doing it for free. Thank you. Yeah, that's uh yeah, but a forest has the best version of that joke that I've heard because we all know the hypothetical, but you've got to follow him online. Is it is it on your made it to the bonus round? Okay. I mean, the whole thing is a long, chill game show. It's a long, I mean, I'm gonna cut this down, but um Yeah, we're pushing two hours. We're pushing it. Movie that changed your life.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. Um you said bonus round, so I thought you were gonna ask me another quiz question.

SPEAKER_02

No, we're done with the quiz. This is just you. This is just for us. We're just getting to know Forrest.

SPEAKER_01

A movie that changed my life. That's a good question. Um Thank you. In terms of what I'm uh extremely into now, as in what I do every night, I maybe would say Stepbrothers. Oh, it's so good. Yeah. Just it was just so funny. And it just and me and my friends would recite it constantly. Yep. And all we cared about was being funny.

SPEAKER_02

A movie that's a part of your life forever. Yep. That changes. It's so good. It is so good. Have you ever seen something mystical? Ghosts, aliens, etc.

SPEAKER_01

You know, the mu the I think the biggest chance that I saw a UFO ever in my life was like two weeks ago. On uh holy smoke. It was uh it's crazy, I'd kind of forgotten about this, but we were on my friend's, my friend had just moved into this house and had like a house room apartment. They had like a rooftop balcony. Um it's like uh you know where Benji's bagels is? It's kind of like West Nashville. Okay. Off like Robertson and Whitebridge. Okay. Um, why don't I give their address in social? And it just there were like other planes flying around, and then this like one thing of light that I at first I just thought was like a blinking satellite or something, but it would be there and then it'd be gone, and then it would be like over here, and then it'd be gone, and then it'd be like over here. And this was probably over the course of like 10 or 15 minutes. It's one of those things like nobody noticed, and one of my friends was like, the thing's kind of weird. And then like you were looking at it goes, that is it's like it was disappearing and coming back and wasn't in the same place. Uh got to my head it probably was not a UFO. I'm sure there's something you can explain it, but that was two weeks ago. That was two weeks ago, yeah. And that was because the answer, in terms of ghosts, no. Yeah. Uh I don't ever think I'd seen a UFO.

SPEAKER_02

But maybe.

SPEAKER_01

May mystical. I mean, I don't know. I never had the much mystical stuff happen. Uh have you?

SPEAKER_02

Not really. I wouldn't think so. I we're we're we're trending less. People have been trending less. I feel like the mysticism might be leaving. I believe in aliens.

SPEAKER_01

I believe they've been here, I just don't think I've seen one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and and it's like I want some of that stuff to be real so bad that I don't even trust. Like it'd be so cool if that was that I'm like, I'd be forcing it. I'm my brain is forcing it.

SPEAKER_01

I know I'm trying not to force it. Yeah because I'm sure somebody who knows something, you know, it was not undeniable by any means.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I think that's but it's weird. That was one of the weirdest things I've seen. That is super weird.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. That it was two weeks ago, too, and like in Greater Nashville.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

All right. If you could give a young person in your life one quality to gift to them, you don't have to have it yourself, you just get to give it to them as a gift. What would be that quality to give to a young person?

SPEAKER_01

That is uh an interesting question. Like a personality trait, you're saying? Could be, yeah. Um probably confidence.

SPEAKER_02

That's great.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. And I it's honestly it's my favorite question because I feel like it it says the most about you, what you pick as an answer. Um and everyone always has something different. Yeah. Uh, and it often ties in with the theme of what we talk about on the show. I don't know exactly how it ties in. Hayden, do you feel like it ties in for today's episode? The idea of confidence? Even though I was so unconfident during the well manifest watch you answered before.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, yeah. I think that Forrest found some confidence in his answers as we went at the end of the game.

SPEAKER_02

I think we I think you really found yourself today, Forrest. I did. You solved all my problems. I did. This has been uh almost funny therapy session, episode 10. Guys, keep watching it. Make sure that you uh follow Forrest everywhere at Forest Bob Comedy. Forrest Bob Comedy. Open podcast, open podcast. Um that's it. And aliens. And aliens, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

An alien, come back. Yep. Followed by everyone. Yep.

SPEAKER_02

Guys, thank you. We'll see you later. Bye.

SPEAKER_01

That was fun. That was fun. That was really fun. It was fun.