From Not Enough To Nervous System Safety

That quiet thought of “something is wrong with me” can hijack your whole day. We’ve both been there and we hear it constantly from midlife women who are juggling hormones, stress, sleep struggles, low energy, weight that won’t budge, and a mental load that never ends. So we get real about what’s actually happening when you feel not enough and why that story can feel like “proof” even when it isn’t true.

We unpack how the brain’s job is safety, not accuracy, and how the head voice can sound convincing while still lying. You’ll hear practical reframes we use with clients, including the child-learning-to-walk analogy, why failure is normal, and how to stop treating one mistake like a character verdict. We also talk nervous system regulation and embodiment: when your body feels safer, your thoughts get clearer, your reactions soften, and you can access the heart voice that asks, “What if it goes right?”

From there, we zoom out to the people around you. Environment matters. The right coach, therapist, mentor, or community can become a safe container where you finally practise new boundaries, ask for help, and release perfectionism without shame. If you’ve been trying to be Hercules and do everything alone, we’ll show you why “1% better” is often the missing key to lasting change.

If this resonates, share it with a friend who needs to hear they’re not broken, and subscribe so you don’t miss what’s coming next. After you listen, leave a review and tell us: what’s one small 1% shift you’re willing to try this week?

Connect with Amy Wilford on social media at @amywilfordhealth, or on her website at wholebodyharmonycoach.com

Connect with Heather Fontenot on social media at @embodiedrejuvenation, or on her website at embodiedrejuvenation.com

If you'd like to talk to us about our new joint program, Whole Body Real Life, email us at:

Amy@AmyWilfordHealth.com or Heather@EmbodiedRejuvenation.com 

Transcript

Why Feeling Not Enough Is Normal

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Body Drama Shift, where we move from confusion to clarity without guessing. Because your body isn't broken, it's communicating. If you're a woman in midlife dealing with stubborn weight, low energy, mood swings, or poor sleep, you're not imagining it and you're not alone. I'm Amy, creator of Whole Body Harmony.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

And I'm Heather, creator of Embodied Rejuvenation. Together we help you decode your symptoms by addressing both biology and the nervous system. Because real change happens when both are in alignment. Let's shift.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Hi, welcome back to the body drama shift. We are on episode 14 already. I can't believe it. It's been super fun and we love doing this. Today we want to talk about that common feeling of feeling like you're not enough, feeling like something's broken, feeling like something's wrong with you. I know that Heather and I have both had these experiences, and that lots of our clients have as well. And many women that we talk to on our clarity and connection calls have also expressed those thoughts and feelings. And I want to start out by saying that it's normal. Okay. Let's normalize it because we are human beings having a human experience. Okay. And having those thoughts is our brain's way of keeping us safe. It's our brain's way of telling us, ooh, maybe I shouldn't do that because I'm not good enough. Because if we do the thing, it might be a little scary and uncomfortable. So I want to name that it's normal. Okay. It's not optimal. We don't want to be giving those thoughts. They're no fun, but it's a human experience.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Yes. And for I think what you said, Amy, is so huge. Knowing that other people experience it and you're not alone. Yes for all time. I thought like I'm the only one experiencing this. Nobody talks about this, right? And I'm the only one that experiences feeling like I'm I'm broken or something's wrong with me. And then sometimes we have the evidence, right? Of like, oh, I am broken. I I'm experiencing this. My body is sending me this message, or I can't figure out how to do this, or whatever that story is. Like you, you almost get the proof for it. Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

Yeah, because failure is also normal and it's also part of the human experience, right? You can't be successful at everything, single thing you do. It's impossible. If we were all perfect at every single thing we did, I mean, can you just imagine a world like that where nobody ever made a mistake? Totally unrealistic, of course, but that's what makes us human.

Failure, Falling, And Trying Again

SPEAKER_00 2:58

And one analogy that I really like that just popped into my head was that when a child is growing up and they're learning how to go from crawling to walking, when a child tries to walk and they fall down, they don't just stay on the ground, right? They get back up and they try again. And that's what we have to do as human beings is we just keep trying. And if you fail and fall a million times, it's okay. You get back up and you try again. And maybe you shift gears, maybe you pivot, or maybe you don't. Maybe you keep trying until you master it. It doesn't mean something's wrong with you. There's nothing attached to, well, if I tried and failed 10 times, then I'm just a failure. If something's wrong with me, I should quit. No, not really.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

And two things um I heard you say, Amy, that all the name, like if we if we can go back to thinking like a child, or not necessarily thinking like a child, but going back to that childlike behavior and say, Oh, like when we were kids, we didn't, if we failed, when we were trying to start walking, it wasn't a big deal.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Yeah, nobody blamed us or shamed us for it. We didn't blame or shame ourselves. We just picked up and moved on, and everybody else cheered for us when we were able to do it, but nobody booed us when we fell down.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

Yes, like when we reach adulthood, it's like, oh, we're not supposed to have this experience. I think for me, like this is a big, big one that I struggled with for a very long time. Like feeling broken or feeling like something was wrong with me. Um and I still fall into that sometimes. I can catch it a lot faster and I have the techniques and the tools to soothe that.

Head Voice Vs Heart Voice

SPEAKER_01 4:39

But when we feel that, or when we believe that something is wrong with us, and any of that comes from some conditioning too, something we probably experienced in the past that has been just replayed, but that also triggers our nervous system to say, Oh, I'm not safe. Right. Not safe.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Yeah, and a lot of times we can't name that I don't feel safe, but that's what's happening.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

And it's stuck on alert. It's like, oh, something's wrong with me. There's the threat, and it's it stays stuff there.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Yeah, and from a life coaching perspective, that's being that's what we call being in your head voice. That's your head voice is the one that's trying to keep you safe. It's the friend that's trying to protect keep protect you, but your head voice is also a liar. Sorry to say it, but your head voice is lying to you. And your head voice's job is to keep you safe. It's just doing what it's supposed to do, but what it's telling you is not true. You're not broken, you're not a failure, there's nothing wrong with you, you're just human. And the more we can give ourselves grace for being human and giving other people grace for being human themselves, the better off we are. And the more we can tap into that gratitude that we talked about in another episode.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

Yeah, and also when you say life coaching, right? I do so I do coaching in my work too. And we use the language embodiment. So embody. So again, moving from the head to the body, but because our body is always present, our brains are what's future, past, always thinking about what could go wrong. Did we fail? Or is something wrong? You know, all of those stories.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Yeah, and we get in that um, what if it goes wrong? What's gonna happen if this? But we uh what we need to do is train our bodies. And what we in life coaching, my training was you're moving from your head voice to your heart voice. So your head voice is like, but what if it goes wrong? And your heart voice is like, well, yeah, but what if it goes right? And our head voice again is trying to protect us because things can go wrong, but then we it prevents us from tapping into our heart voice and looking at it from the other angle of, but how amazing would it be if it went right? And then also like the things that we create in our brains of what would go wrong, a lot of times are things that are never gonna happen. Our brain likes to like create these scenarios that are just like terrifying, but the chances of that actually happening are slim to none.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

And if we can regulate our nervous systems, then those thoughts, the quality of the thoughts, are a little different. And we can see more clearly. Oh, first of all, our brain is meant to think, right? It's meant to have thoughts. So we can choose those thoughts, like you said earlier. Like, you know, it's it's not it's not always true. So we can choose, oh, oh, it's telling me I'm wrong again. I know and I have proof and evidence. If I can pause and say and stand in, oh, I have evidence that this worked last, or I can choose something different.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Yeah, and we often you're speaking about evidence, our brains also like to pull all of the evidence that things are gonna go wrong. When if you think about it, like I think all of us can pinpoint one negative thing that somebody said about us that we cannot let go. It sticks in our brains, it sticks in our brains, sticks in our brains. And we have trouble thinking of, but what about all the positive things that people have said? Like our brain holds on to those negative experiences, those negative, that negative evidence. And we have to teach it to look for the positive evidence. Like I've done this in the past, I can do it again. Maybe I didn't do it 100% every time in the past, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

You know, another thing that triggered this conversation was I was having I had a moment of oh, that that thinking coming back, or that uh nervous system response, like, oh, something's wrong with me because I am not I can't I can't remember exactly what it was. And then I had a client show up and say, I feel like I'm always wrong. And it it's like our nervous system is like, oh, we had these experiences in the past that we're holding on to that also get stored in our body. So sometimes it's it's there and it's always running that response. So we also have to work on soothing that. We're also not aware of it, right? So some people, or that is the work, becoming aware, soothing it, or whatever we need to move that through the bodies.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Yeah,

Process The Meltdown Without Living There

SPEAKER_00 9:33

and we're not talking about ignoring or pretending those things don't exist because you have to process it. If you don't process it, it's not gonna calm down. So we're talking about, like Heather just said, like stopping naming it, recognizing it and moving through it, not just pushing it aside, not just ignoring it or pretending it doesn't exist, but acknowledging it and processing through it. And you can do that once once you figure out how to do that, it can happen quicker. I always say, like, you can be down, like have your meltdown, do it. I that's what you got to do. Have the meltdown. Just don't stay there. Process through it, take the time you need. I'm also not saying to rush it, but the more you're able to process and practice it, you'll find that those moments of meltdowns are shorter and you can get back to yourself quicker and show up as that best version of yourself quicker than if you let yourself sit in it for too long. Because I say this all the time: you have survived 100% of the hard things that you've gone through. Was it easy? No, but you're still here. You've survived every single hard thing you've gone through. So you are strong and resilient, and you can handle anything life throws at you.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

I think too that like when that comes up again, like reminding ourselves of those times when we did go through hard things and to see our results.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

I mean, look at Heather, I've known you a long time and I've seen you go through a lot of hard stuff. A lot of hard stuff. And look at you now, like you've gotten through everything. You're resilient, you're strong, you're one of the strongest women I know. And you, I've seen you go through hard things and I've seen it take you a long time to get through hard things, but I've also seen you recover from hard things a lot quicker than you would have when I first met you. Like you have grown so much in the past six years we've known each other now, six and a half. Like you've grown a ton. And I tell my clients all the time like, my job is to believe in you, and I do believe in you. You also have to believe in yourself, but I'm gonna believe in you with my whole heart until you get there. And I'm gonna help you get to the place where you believe in yourself. Like, that's a lot of women that I think both of us work with struggle to believe in themselves.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Yes.

Choose Your Room And Your People

SPEAKER_01 11:52

And that's we talked about this before we recorded this podcast, that your environment matters. Being around people and in rooms with people who are taking care of themselves, doing the work, you know, changing those thoughts, those beliefs, elevating themselves, uplifting themselves, being in rooms with those people are going that is huge. And I want to say too, I I think we talked about this in the last episode, but um, or maybe we touched on it, but relationship with a person who and I I I look at my clients and they say that this is the biggest impact for them. That the relationship with the person that they're working with, say the therapist, say the coach, that matters a lot when you feel safe with people. That is probably that container is probably the biggest, I don't want to use the word biggest, like the um the most impactful thing on change.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Yeah, and that's why I believe in the power of coaching so much. And I have several coaches that help me with different things because it is so important to have a coach. Like it's someone who's accountable to you. It's someone who can call out your stuff when no one else will. Your friends and family don't always call out your stuff because they love you. And coaches love you too, but it's different. Like it's just so different. Like I can call out somebody's stuff and it's okay because I do it in a manner that doesn't make them feel bad. You know, I'm here to support you. And so that coaching aspect is just huge. And I remember a coach telling me one time that if I ever wanted to hire a coach and they didn't have their own coach, that I should run. And I 1000% agree with that. Like you whoever you choose as a coach should also have their own coaches because even as a coach, we have our own stuff that we need to be called out on. And I'm being PG. I really want to use the other word when I'm using stuff instead. But I think you all know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

Yeah, we always say, um, you know, in new therapy, like if you don't have a mentor or um a therapist yourself, you know, you can't like our lens gets dirty. Yeah. We can't see, like you said, we can't see our stuff. So we need who can see our bond spots.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

And things that my coach tells me, I share with my own clients, like, ooh, that was a great question that he just asked me. I'm gonna use that in my next session with whoever it is. And so I'm also learning through him coaching me. I'm learning how to be a better coach through him. And so, like you said, Heather, like you need to surround your people, yourself with people like that, other people who are growing, other people who are willing to change their lives for the better. And I remember a quote that I've heard several um mentors, motivational speakers, all of that say is that you are the average of the five people you surround yourself with. So, a small little exercise here. Think about the five people that you are around the most and think about how they impact your daily thoughts and actions. And if there are people in there who are not supporting you in the way you need to be supported, obviously you can't, you know, there are a lot of people that you can't completely cut out from your life, but can you replace, bring someone else into that circle that might balance that other person out?

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Yeah, and you for me, like, you know, working in substance use and know it, like that was a big thing, environment change.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Yeah, because if they're going back to the same environment that they came from, they're probably gonna end up in the same place.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

If you want to sleep better, if you want to um increase your revenue, if you want to become this version of yourself, then you spend time with those people who are doing those things.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Yeah, you spend time with the people who are doing what you want to do or are the kind of people that you want to be. And I heard it said too that like if you don't respect somebody or they're not where you want to be, then why would you take advice from them? Like, don't take advice from those people. Let them do their thing if that's what they want to do, if they want to give you advice, you can listen, but don't take it because they're not doing what you want to do. If they're not in alignment with your thoughts and beliefs, then why would you take advice from them? Yeah, take advice from the people who are what you want to be.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

Just circling back to what we started talking about, you know, if you're always feeling like you're wrong and you're doing something wrong, like those are beliefs and conditioning that could be continued from the people you are spending your time.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Yeah. Yeah. Are you spending time with someone who always makes you feel like you're wrong or not enough or whatever it is? Yeah. And learning too, I think sometimes if it's a person, like say it's a family member that you can't really cut ties with. It's just not something you can, or even maybe something you're just not willing to do. Then maybe work on spending less time with them or training yourself to set those boundaries and walking away from them when something like that happens. Just being able to say, look, I'm done with this conversation right now and walk away. And I know that's not easy to do. Trust me, I'm not saying it's easy to do, but it's really important to your mental well-being and your self-esteem and your confidence and everything else. And I think too, sometimes we look at other people and we feel like something's wrong with us because we see other people who appear super competent. Like there must be something wrong with me because I'm not as confident as so-and-so is. I could never do what so-and-so does. But then we also want to look at like their endpoint where they are now. You can't compare that to your beginning. They started somewhere too.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

I think too, for me, Amy, like that my biggest teachers in this was uh my patience because it took so much strength. So like I can almost get emotional about how in all of them I was when I worked with them to see them make this big change you like they they had to let go of some of those relationships and even people that were older to change who they who they were in a sense. Right. Yeah, so it takes a lot of courage. When I I guess for me that was the biggest issue because I looked at them and I'm like, oh, that is hard. That is hard, but in order to fight for their lives, they had to get right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

Well, and even just the beginning of asking for help. I mean, those people asked for help, and that's huge. Huge. There are so

Asking For Help And Dropping Perfectionism

SPEAKER_00 18:43

many people who think that asking for help is a sign of weakness, it's not, it is pure strength.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

And I we speak about this all the time, right? Most people we work with now are women, and how hard is it for a lot of us to ask for help? Like, even if we just talk about at home, right? We we always are doing things, like we're doing the cooking, we're doing this, we're doing that, doing that, or at work. Like, oh, I'll just do it because I can do it better than if I tell somebody else to do it. Like, and that just keeps our nervous system on alert. It keeps it dysregulated because we are like, nope, I'm just gonna keep calling out. I can do it, I can do it, and I ask for help. Asking for help someone does not feel safe. Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Yeah, yeah. And sometimes we have to let go of they're not gonna do it as good as I do it and be happy with it's done. Like talk, go back to doing the dishes, right? Like, okay, if it if I need to have somebody help me do the dishes, it might not be exactly the way I do it, but as long as they get done, they're done. You know, load them the dishwasher. Maybe they don't load it exactly the way you want them to load it, but at the end of the day, is it loaded? Yes. And you ask for help and you let someone else do it.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

And if we go back to that beginner, right? Like, yeah, everybody starts somewhere. Like if we let them do it, there's there's a lot of things that could happen, right? They can get better over time at doing the skill that we're giving them to do. Or um, it also gives them confidence. Right. Sometimes by us like just doing it all and not asking for help, like we're blocking them from being able to live in maybe their purpose, maybe their strength, maybe something that will help them shine.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

We're kind of switching topics here a little bit, but also like people want to help. So if you're not asking for help, you're also holding them back from being helpful. Like I love to help people. Like I would love it if someone asked me for help. That makes me feel good to be able to help other people. And I think most people are helpers to some degree. Like, yeah, there might be things I don't want to help you with, but in general, people, it makes someone else feel good if you allow them to help you.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

And I think, yes, we did switch topics, but it also relates to like that mental load.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

And going back to feeling like there's something wrong with you, part of the reason you might feel like something wrong is wrong with you is because you're trying to be Hercules and you're trying to do every single thing, and it really isn't humanly possible. It's not because there's something wrong with you, it's because your expectations of yourself are too high and you are failing because it's impossible to juggle every single thing in life and to not let anyone help you. And it's so you are gonna get knocked down more often.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

My one of my colleagues and I always talk about this. Like, I hold myself to such a high standard, which I know that comes from conditioning things in my path, but I hold myself to this such this high standard that like if I told you about why I'm beating myself up about being wrong, you would be like, seriously, like you can't you can't do all of that. Or yeah, like really but in internally. It's like, no, I should be able to do all this because, or I should be able to, it might not be all the things, it might just be this one thing. But I hold myself to this eye saying, I should be able to do this.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Yeah, I like to tell people that I'm a recovering perfectionist because I still expect myself to be perfect sometimes. I still beat myself up when I'm not, but it's better than it used to be. So I'm recovering from that. I'm working towards being better about that. Do I want to do things well? Absolutely. Of course I do. We all do. But we also need to remember that we're human. You're at the end of the day, you are human. Something that just like, I want to bring God into this for a second. God did not create us to be perfect. God is perfect. We are not. So we cannot hold ourselves to the standard of being perfect. God doesn't hold us to that standard. He created us to be imperfect. Can we strive toward perfection? Can we strive to be 1% better every single day? Yes. But are we ever going to be perfect in every aspect of our life? Absolutely not. And if you expect to or you think that that's what's going to happen, then you're just going to keep disappointing yourself and beating yourself up for things out of your control.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Well, I love how you said 1%. 1%. Can I just do something 1%? Not necessarily better, but different.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

What can I do tomorrow that is going to be 1% better than I did today? Can you just be a little bit more present with your family tomorrow? Can you just put your phone down for five extra minutes tomorrow? Small shifts lead to big change, consistency over time.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

And I want to say too, even the thought of being wrong always, that running in the background. Because I remember that for me, like in my work, that showing up. Like I felt like, oh, I'm going to mess this up. Oh, I'm going to do this wrong. Oh, like there was no time and space for me to learn. Yeah. Oh, I'm learning. Like I have not, yes, I studied this, I learned this. But my greatest learning is in the experience. So I can let myself have that experience. And if if I say something wrong, oh, okay, like that's not the end of the world. Or if I can always go back and correct it. Or if I I don't know exactly what to say, I can say I don't know and find out.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

If you don't make mistakes, you can't learn from them. And as long as you know that you're learning as you're going through the process. And I was just thinking of another example of like when you start a new job, you don't know what you're doing, but you get trained and eventually you learn and it becomes second nature. And the next thing you know, you're an expert at it and you're teaching someone else. Everybody has to start somewhere. That's what my son's been really hesitant about finding a job. And I'm like, he's giving him suggestions of where, well, why don't you try here? Well, but I don't know how to do that. Okay. But they train you. You don't have to know it, know what to do before you get there. They don't expect you to do that unless you've been trained somewhere else first. And you're 17. Nobody expects you to know how to do everything. And even, I mean, I'm 52, nobody expects me to know how to do everything, but I can learn.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

People know that I can learn. And that is the a switch too, like the thought of, oh, am I wrong? Or I'm always wrong on something wrong. But switching it with a thought of like, oh, um, I can learn how to do this, or another thought that would and it takes some time. It takes it also takes nervous system regulation. Like helping your body feel safe enough and and getting back into your body. We don't collaborate.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

And celebrating the times that you were right. Like I was wrong this time, but I was right when in this scenario. And that's not ego, that's just acknowledging your strengths. So it's okay to celebrate when you did something right and to bring that back into your memory when you're ruminating on something you did wrong.

Stop Mind Reading And Build Safety

SPEAKER_00 26:06

And like you said, Heather, like knowing that you can correct it. Like, okay, I said that and that was a wrong thing to say. How do I fix it?

SPEAKER_01 26:13

I also want to say that sometimes our brains can tell us that we might have done something wrong. Stories, right? If it's in relationship to somebody else, I've had this in a lot of times. Oh, I think I hurt for their feelings. Or I said something wrong, and that's why they're not texting me back or whatever the story is. Oh, they didn't call me to come over. So it must be some. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

And I know Heather, you and I have had these situations too, like from my perspective, where I'll be like, oh, I said that. I hope she didn't take that wrong. And so I'm like texting you, like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it like that. And you're like, I didn't even take it that way. Like, what are you talking about? I knew you didn't mean it that way. So I feel like that happens a lot too, that we interpret somebody else's thoughts and feelings for them, but we're not in their head. So we we don't really know what they thought. And I mean, it it's okay to go back and be like, hey, I'm really sorry it came across the wrong way. Like it's okay to verbalize that. But then when they tell you, I didn't even think that, then you know, okay, I overreacted. And then you feel better knowing that, okay, it I didn't do anything wrong. They knew what I meant.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

And I want to say that when you're in relationship with people who are safe, like I feel really safe with Amy. So I can always say, hey, this is what my this is what's happening for me. I don't know if this is true or not. Can you help like can you help me? Did you feel this way? Or is this my my old belief or my old conditioning? And because I I have surrounded myself with people who helped me to feel safe, I can now see those things. No, that's all conditioning.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

And I think that's why you and I feel so safe doing this podcast together and why we feel so safe creating a program together, because we know that it we can work together and we can bring up those hard conversations if we need to. And we don't need to very often, but when we do, we I know that I can go to Heather and be like, okay, we need to talk this out. And we will. And so, yeah, you're right. That comes from having that safe person and surrounding myself by safe people because you're not the only one that I feel safe with. And I know I'm not the only one you feel safe with, but we've created that safety for each other, for ourselves by connecting with the right people. And it can be hard to find those right people. Again, not ever telling you it's going to be easy, but it's possible.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

And again, we go back to like when my clients say, Oh, I'm able to do this work because the relationship with you, I feel safe. Not everybody, not every coach, not every therapist is for you. That makes you feel safe.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

Yep. And if you find a coach or a therapist or whatever and you go to them and you don't make that connection with them, that's okay. Find somebody else. Don't give up until you find the person that is a good fit for you.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Or don't tell yourself, oh, I'm wrong. There's something.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Right. Right. Yeah, because you're gonna get the most benefit if you feel safe with your coach or your therapist or whoever it is. And honestly, I don't want to work with somebody who doesn't feel comfortable with me because they're not gonna get the results that I want. I would rather someone go somewhere else than stick with me just because they feel obligated or we know each other from the past or whatever. I want them to find somebody that's gonna get them the best results. Will I be disappointed? Probably. Like I like working with people. Like I don't want to lose a client, but it's not about me. It's about my client. And if that's what they need is somebody else with a different, fresh perspective, by all means.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

The healing, the work, the therapeutic container um or the container matters if if there's not um safety in it, then then it's not normal.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

It's just you're sabotaging yourself if you don't feel safe and you're probably gonna go backwards.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

We told we covered a lot.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

We have, we have.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Told ourselves that we would just kind of um have a raw and candid conversation and I feel like that's what we did. Yeah, we really did.

How To Connect And What’s Coming

SPEAKER_01 30:31

So if you notice any of these things in yourself and you want to be in those people who are feel safe, um, who are connecting with each other through these working on these things, then contact us and connect with us.

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And our program that we're working on together is also going to include a group aspect. So we're also going to have group calls, at least that's the plan right now, um, to allow our women to be able to connect with each other in that safe container. So if you are looking for those five people to surround yourself with that are going to help you grow, this program might be what's best for you, might really resonate with you and be a really good safe place for you. So we are really excited to share that in not too much longer. We've been working on it. So um yeah, coming soon. Stay tuned.

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And if you would like to connect with us, you can connect with me at embodyrejuvenation.com or Facebook, Instagram, Embodied Rejuvenation, and Amy.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Yep. If you want to connect with me, I'm at Whole Body Harmony Coach.com or on Instagram as Whole Body Harmony Coach or on Facebook as Amy Wilford Health. And we hope to chat with you soon.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

I'm Heather, nervous system coach and yoga therapist and founder of Embodied Rejuvenation. My work is rooted in the belief that lasting transformation isn't just about knowing what to do. It's about your nervous system feeling safe enough to actually do it. I know what it feels like to be capable, smart, and driven, and still feel like something is holding you back that you just can't name. Through nervous system assessment and high-touch coaching, that's exactly what I help women uncover. I also deeply believe in the power of women, healing and growing in community, which is why community is woven into my programs and why I host retreats for women who are ready to go deeper together. If any of that sounds like what you've been looking for, I'd love to connect. You can book a call with me at embodiedrejuvenation.com. The link is in the show notes.

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At Whole Body Harmony, I help women in midlife stop guessing and finally understand what their bodies are trying to say. Through comprehensive lab testing, personalized protocols, nutrition, and high touch coaching, we look at the whole picture because hormones, gut, metabolism, stress, and lifestyle are all connected. If you are tired of feeling dismissed or stuck, or even been told that you're crazy, you don't have to figure it out alone. You can learn more or book a clarity call at whole bodyharmonycoach.com. Hope to connect with you soon.