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EP 2 - What Your Plate Says About Your Mind

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A George Michael sex dream kicks the door down, and then we do what we always do: follow the thread until it turns into something way more honest than we expected. We talk about what actually triggers attraction, from raw physical preference to the underrated power of a sharp mind. If you’ve ever felt your interest spike because someone said something smart, or crash because they said something clueless, you’ll get why we keep coming back to sapiosexual chemistry, character, and the kind of communication that makes a relationship feel like a team.

Then we zoom out to a culture-and-control debate sparked by the UK plan to ban tobacco for anyone born after 2009. Public health vs personal freedom, tribal thinking vs individualism, and why people accept rules differently depending on where they’re from. From there it’s a hard pivot into real-life habits and health: smoking stories, how early experiences can shape behavior, and a wide-ranging detour into breastfeeding, immune systems, cow’s milk norms, probiotics, kefir, and the wellness logic people use to justify what they put in their bodies.

We land on the big relationship question: does food compatibility matter? We get into picky eating, vegetarian boundaries, spice limits, restrictive diets, and whether a narrow palate signals a narrow worldview. We also talk Lyme disease and fasting, and why sharing a great meal can be the emotional lead-up that makes intimacy feel deeper and more connected. If you’re a foodie, dating, or just trying to understand what you really want from a partner, this one will hit. Subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review if you want more unfiltered conversations like this.

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Cold Open And Wild Dream

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And just like that, you're here. Welcome to the PBNJ podcast, where things get a little messy, a little bold, and definitely not fucking boring.

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We're serving up some real talk, some hot takes, and conversations you probably shouldn't have, but we're having them anyway.

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So settle in. This is PBJ. Help us save the whales.

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Alright, so I had a dream. I had a dream.

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Here we go.

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I woke up and the things that you think about that you don't vocalize ever. And my thought was having sex with George Michael as a gay man.

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You gotta introduce Jesus Christ, you gotta introduce in first. Are you a gay man? Well, we can always we can always put in the intro. We don't even need an intro. Like that's like a freaking amazing intro. Oh, go ahead.

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Go ahead.

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We can do a cold open. That'll take a power open.

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I wanted to hear about your gay sex dream with George Michael. Were you like the guy? Were you a guy? Oh yeah. I was a gay man. Okay.

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I was pounding me some George Michael.

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Wait, you were so you were pounding not being pounded?

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It was a mixture of both. Okay. But I figured for him to really give me his all, I needed to be a hot gay man.

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My goodness. Okay.

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Of any particular descent or um maybe a cross of like Greek Italian.

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Got it.

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You know, irresistible. Yeah. Maybe some curly black hair and some like hair on my chest. Okay.

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And she was like a centaur as well.

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Yeah, it was.

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That's awesome.

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Welcome to the PB and J show.

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There you go. Panda.

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Beast.

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J9.

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All right. Okay. Now, well, we were just talking about centaur sex. So keep on going.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So George Michael is so first of all, his music is so flippin' sexy. And Fast Love is like my ultimate favorite song by him. So I put it on repeat this morning about 15 times. I even did a video on Instagram like five years ago where I sang the whole song because I'm good at memorizing lyrics.

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So you woke up this morning. Was this in the car or like pre-car? Pre-car. Okay. So you woke up this morning and your mind drifted to George Michael. Your sex fantasy with an 80s pop icon. Yes. Who likes not the sex that you are. Correct. Got it. Yeah. Did something happen this morning to lead to that? Like, was there some catalyst that led or something?

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Or like did you see something like the day before? Like obviously, like your subconscious was impacting one way.

SPEAKER_00

No, but I heard his I heard a song this morning, and then that prompted me on my Alexa to go, oh my God, and now I'm down the rabbit hole of George Michael. And then I thought, oh my God, I want to come back as a gay man and just really get what did your husband say?

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Did you like, were you like, let me tell you, let me tell you what I just thought of.

SPEAKER_00

We did not have this conversation because he had left at five in the morning. So we did not even have this conversation.

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So this is like but to to be when you have that conversation, and we know her husband, I would love, I would love if you could have some sort of uh catalog of his reaction to this.

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Okay. I don't think much of anything that I say at this point shocks him. He's gonna surprise him.

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Okay, well then that's a great marriage. Yeah. How

Sapiosexual Attraction And No Filter Love

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long have you guys been together now?

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17 years.

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Yeah, so there's like very little that's gonna happen.

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Yeah, I he just knows that I have no filter and he just expects it and uh sometimes gets mortified uh by what I say, but most of the time he just expects it.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, when was the last time he did something that uh surprised you and you were like, I didn't know that about you? Or like, whoa, didn't see that coming. Because after 17 years, I feel like you've like you've been in the trenches, you've like you've seen each other through battle.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. Um sometimes he'll say things that are so witty and clever, and I'm like, where did that come from? It came out of left field.

SPEAKER_04

Wow You're smarter than you look.

SPEAKER_00

And it's really attractive. I'm like, God, honey, that was hot. You know, when like something. It's intellect, yes. And I'm like, God, that was so good.

SPEAKER_04

We I we were talking about that earlier too, because it's like I was saying that I'm a sapio, like that. Me too, 100%. The moment someone will say a girl will say something, I'm like, oh my god. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

So you're like, uh, you're attracted to minds.

SPEAKER_04

It's well, I'm definitely attracted to to the physical being and freckles, especially. Freckles are the things that are. I know that must have your thing. Must have freckles. No exceptions. No exceptions. Yes.

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Have the hands.

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Connect the dots.

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I'm like, I'm like, well, girls wear freckles or makeup their covers are freckles. I'm like, you're slapping God in the face. Why would you, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

I like freckles.

SPEAKER_04

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

It's always what you have that you want the opposite of. So I would ideally love to be like a tan.

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A gay Greek man.

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A gay Greek man, like an ice olive tone. I want to be on vases all over Greece.

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I have some of those vases.

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No, it's but yes, like they're just, you know, like I was saying that the the girl, and she's a lawyer. She was, we were just talking about something, I don't remember what it was, and she was like, she just said, like, something happening consecutively does not indicate causality. And I just like I have heard that before, and I've I I believe that, but just hearing that come out of someone's mouth, like that intellectual thought was like so wildly attractive to me in that moment. Instant woody. So, like that, but then and and the exact opposite is true that I'll hear like something, and then I'm like, was clear that like there was no no thought going on, and I'm like, well, I was like very into you five minutes ago, and now we're in a new world.

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You're and then you're like disappointed by like Yeah, it's just like why did you even open your mouth in the first place?

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It's like letting the air out of a balloon slowly.

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And it's I like hearing women talk. I love in our culture, especially like I think we went over this, like men are not allowed to interrupt women, but women are allowed to interrupt men because we believe men are I'm sorry, women are superior to men. But like, so I love listening to women talk, and especially like I'm big, I'm very big on character development, and so like hearing a person talk, like they're developing their character in front of you, right? But it's just sometimes something will be said that's just just so devoid of thought, or like shows like a lack of lack of like cultural understanding, and I'm just like not you're an empty shell, but like that, like is that really like how your brain like processes data? Like I don't understand what that's sad, right?

SPEAKER_00

It's disappointing.

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And it's just like it's fine because everyone's a product of what they are and where they've come from. So I I like to a point I can't fault people for something sometimes, but like I'm just like that isn't for me.

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And then some people are just like machines or they're just like you know, organic matter just floating around being being like useless.

SPEAKER_04

See, I don't know that I I mean, fair, maybe I don't know that I go that far, but it's just like I think being British, like we put such a big emphasis on intellectuality and like communicative skills so that when I so like the standard for it gets set very high, like in British relationships, like we don't argue, we don't like fight, we don't yell. That's like no, that's a thing. You just talk shit out because like we are a team and we would like to get to a place that's better than the moment we're in, right? And so our job is to work together toward that because you fight with enemies, you don't fight with teammates, right? So that's our path forward. So that like uh roots itself into everything we do. So everything we do is some sort of conversation to further the connection or further our understanding or push us forward. So when stuff happens that's like not aligned with that, my brain doesn't know what to do with it because it's just so foreign to what I've known my whole life and lived with that to me feels like always the right path. And so it just it feels just I don't feel like they're useless necessary. It's like this just is not going on the path I'm going, and therefore this is just like this ain't it.

UK Tobacco Ban And Culture Clash

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So you're British. Did you um you triggered um something in my mind that I saw um yesterday? But apparently, like it's it's the UK and um they are now uh banning anybody that was born after 2009 from using tobacco from from being able to use tobacco at all. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_00

Rewind. Isn't that crazy?

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I mean, I don't smoke cigarettes, but like how do you how are you gonna how are you gonna just dictate this on society?

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So prior to 2009, you can give yourself lung cancer?

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If you were born before 2009.

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Right.

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Well, yeah, so I get it.

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I understand. I mean, they should really be focusing more like on like getting off your phone, like people like living off the phone and like destroying their minds.

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Yeah, but Europe's a tribe. Europe's more tribal thinking, and I think it's the fact that like you go to these castles, right? So like Europe, Europe, Europe's been there for like fucking ever, right? So whereas America is like still very young and still very intelligent, like America's still the teen, like no one can tell me.

SPEAKER_02

No, but that's like that's like that's like uh uh a monarchy like telling its people to do whatever they think that they should do. Right. You know what I mean? There's like a difference between like free will and like all that, and and and and telling people, like, hey, if you put gasoline in your LaCroix and drink it, you'll probably fucking die. Right. But it's not, we're not gonna stop you from doing it. Like, how can you only if you were born after 2000?

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Right.

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But unfortunately, and it can only be mid-grade.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, it's like the other one.

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But the idea is like, but the idea in Europe is like we think of the group and decisions will be made that individuals may disagree with, but this is gonna be the best for the group, and there is an acceptance there. So and people will fight it, kicking and screaming, but like they will come to the conclusion, like, like when seatbells were introduced in America, they fought tooth and nail to not have it. But I think we can all agree that like seatbelt saving the lives of your loved ones is a good idea, but in Europe versus like trying to get like get every single person to agree, we're like, no, this was happening because it's better for everyone, you need to get on board, and you'll thank us later. And it's proven to be true so many times that like someone's society, there's an acceptance of like, yeah, the yeah, I'm kind of pissed about it in this moment, but like they're right.

SPEAKER_02

Did you ever smoke cigarettes?

Smoking At Five And Party Years

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Never. I tried, I tried to be with the cool kids.

SPEAKER_04

Did you ever smoke cigarettes? I did not. My father smoked cigarettes, and I listened to him like cough up as long as it every morning, and he was so against it because he's like, you don't want to live this life that it was ingrained into us very early. But I've never done any drug really, other than like I've had weed gummies here and there, but not until I was like well into my 30s. Guess how old I was when I tried my first cigarette?

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Four.

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Fifteen. Twelve.

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You're closer than she. That's wild.

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How old?

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I said four. But you're closer. I was five when I tried my first cigarette.

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You're like these African child soldiers.

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No.

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Let me explain. Okay.

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So in Colombia, which is where I was born in Bogota, um, we used to have cigarettes for the guests. So they were like in these little like box things, like nice looking things where like all this like beautiful furniture down there. And I remember like I just like I was very curious. I picked it up and I was almost like I I was holding it with the filter sticking out like that because I thought it looked cooler. Wait, so you did it the other way, you smoked the floor. I didn't smoke it. No, I didn't smoke the filter. Then I turned it around and I remember lighting it with this giant like lighter thing that we had, right? For like the guests. And I remember taking a hit off of it, and like my lungs like went in like crazy. I like ran around. I was like, I was like coughing like a lot. And then I went to go throw it out the window. And we lived in an apartment. And I went to go throw it out the window, and I remember my neighbor downstairs, this old lady, was there, and I was like, shit, I can't fucking throw it over there, right? So I ran in through the house with a lit cigarette to the kitchen, and we have like a chute inside of the kitchen that would you could throw the garbage in there and threw it in there. Oh no. And our housekeeper, Marta, she ended up seeing at me doing it, and she's like, What are you doing? She ended up telling her my dad, and my dad came home and he was freaking pissed.

SPEAKER_00

You could have started a fire in the garbage chute instead of just putting it in the sink. I was five.

SPEAKER_01

What do you want me to do? Five-year-old smoking cigarettes. Logic was not like his point.

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That's why five-year-olds should not be around a cigarette or a carcinogenic.

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This is the shit I gotta put up with. This one wants to be a gay, gay Greek getting pounded. And this one's out here smoking cigarettes at five. This is it.

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Love it.

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This is it.

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But it's a true story and it happened. Wow. And then like I stopped smoking cigarettes, obviously, because you know, I I was because you were five. I didn't and it wasn't the right choice. Obviously, I didn't have access to them, right? Um, but then like high high school, like middle school came, and then I was like, you know, and then high school came, and I was like a bad kid. I was a I was a pretty bad kid in high school. At Boca High? I don't know if I was like a bad kid, but I was like, you know, I I did a lot of interesting things while I was there. Let's just put it that way. Right. But and then after that, um, and then after that, I when I was working at like nightclubs, like I would get like free cigarettes from the camel reps. So like back in the day, like I don't know if they do that anymore. Like they used to come in with like these trays that were like attached to their thing, and they would just give out samples. I don't think they do it anymore. And like I at one point I was smoking like three packs a day. Wow.

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04

When you had your first hit where you're like, oh, this feels like being five years old again.

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Uh yeah. It brought it really brought me back to my five-year-old.

SPEAKER_00

Were you running around in a diaper? Did you have clothes? Five? I have clothes. I'm not a diaper.

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Five and was you retarded? Remember that? Yeah. I always don't wear diapers. No, I mean you could be still.

SPEAKER_02

It's breastfeeding when you're like, it's okay, so breastfish. In India, they yeah, but like sort of like what's an acceptable age where you're like, okay, like you should stop

Breast Milk Debates To Kefir Faith

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breastfeeding at this age.

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Well, breastfeeding is fine as long as they're not like attaching. You don't want to attach to the nipple at five, but maybe you're you're someone can pump and you can drink.

SPEAKER_01

Is that a thing? I think you produce until you stop five. If you if you keep going, it'll be a few.

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But I know I think like after after one year's old, like I think you stop drinking breast milk, or like I don't have kids, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Some women breastfed as long as they can.

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I've never breastfed. I was adopted, so like I never I never breastfed.

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Some women, there is like a whole thing in American culture, and I'm sure cultures all over the world where they really try and keep their child on breast milk as long as they can.

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They're not really good for it.

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Like apparently, like for the brain development. No, not enough for your immune system. Oh, yeah.

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Because you you're taking the parents' immune system.

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There's there's uh some complex in there, I forgot what it was, but a lot of people like take this pill that is from uh like sheep's milk, and it's got the it starts with an H. Um, but anyways, it's supposed to have like an impact, a huge impact on the development of your immune system. So people who don't typically breastfeed, they have a uh a not so good immune system. Let's just put it that way.

SPEAKER_00

Think about it, it's disgusting. Like they they programmed Americans to drink cow's milk.

SPEAKER_04

In college, we had a joke that we wanted to start a business that we were gonna because we there was a girl in our friend's group who had like enormous breast, like it was like like like like hurt your back breast. Yeah, and we were making it have surgeries to get them. A friend of mine had surgery and she had like it was like something like 12 pounds. It was like wild. Wild. Yeah, they wouldn't they just would not stop growing it well into her adult years. Um but we were making a joke that before she had her breast reduction, we should start a business where we had a human milk business and she'd be like the perfect supplier of human milk.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

I love it. Like lemonade.

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She didn't agree.

SPEAKER_00

Like a lemonade stand.

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Yeah, like that's and you just have like the cup right here, and you're just like, there you go. No problem. Yeah. Um, but I don't know. I like cows. Cow's milk is fine. But now they're saying like there's like different types of cow milks. Like raw milk is better. Correct. You have like the six or thing, and then like gosh, sheep's milk is like better for you, and all these different things. Like, what's really, really good for you is kefir. Ever had kefir?

SPEAKER_00

I've heard about kefir. I have never.

SPEAKER_02

I am like a probiotic junkie. Like anything pro probiotics is like one of the things that like makes you like live longer, right?

SPEAKER_04

His five-year-old smoking experience was so bad that he turned a corner and became like the biggest health person.

SPEAKER_02

I guess so. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

But you should wear a shirt that says got kefir. That would be true.

SPEAKER_02

I would totally wear a shirt that got kefir. So there's any kefir sponsors out there.

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Yes.

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This shows are brought to you by Kiefir.

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Brought to you

Asian Pears And What Food Means

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by Celsius, cheaper.

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Kiefer and breastfeed. I go to like this uh where I buy my kefir, I go to this European market that's in Deerfield, and it's like the Costco size of like uh a Costco size of uh of a of a market. And they have actually they have the best Asian pears that I've had. Don't everywhere. The ones that we got at Costco were like were not good.

SPEAKER_04

See, I like the big ass shingo pears. I love the taste. I like no, I love the subtle, I love the it's like a whisper. There's no subtle. There's like whispering in my mouth. There's nothing.

SPEAKER_00

I've never had an Asian pear.

SPEAKER_04

So they bring her an Asian pair. Big fucking big. They're like uh like they are the size of this.

SPEAKER_02

They're like, there's like it's like the a waste of time. Let's just put that in.

SPEAKER_04

And he thinks he th fine. He thinks they're tasteless. I like They are. I don't like sweet. I don't like the sweet taste. I don't like it. But they have a degree of tart to it. I like very subtle sweet. Okay. I like very salty taste, like Thai food. Well, um, I'm British Thai food, right? But like I don't like sweet things and clowing sweets don't do it. So I like if something's like super subtly sweet, that's where you'll find me. And it's like that. Whereas the normal Asian pears a little too sweet. I mean, I'll I'll do it.

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But I love Asian pears, they're delicious. So Asian pears are like a mix of an apple and a pear. But it doesn't really taste like a pear and it doesn't taste like an apple, right? But it's got like this most beautiful consistency of crispness, right? And like you can you when you bite into one of those things, it's like you're immersed with like all this water and hydration that comes out of it. It's like miraculous. I love Asian bears. Food is like my favorite thing to do. Like, that's how we we should have food while we're while we're talking.

Dating Across Diets And Dealbreakers

SPEAKER_04

I got a food question.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, and this is gonna be interesting because I'm the only one here who's single, right? So do you find that it affects your relationship if you're with someone whose food tastes are completely opposite to yours? Because because I'm a vegetarian stuff, like people always ask me, like, do you have to date a vegetarian and all that? So I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's kind of well, you're different because like you're like a you're it's like it's like complete opposite. Like if someone's used if someone's an omnivore, which I believe is what you should technically be, right? Um, you have you have the ability, you have options. Right. Right? With you, it's like you have to go to a forest and just eat like all the plants that are there and not eat any of the animals that like hop by next to you.

SPEAKER_04

This is the cultured answers I get about my diet.

SPEAKER_00

Um look at look at his face! I'm just saying, like, if you see a family of bunnies, reach out and eat one.

SPEAKER_02

Right. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Like Have you ever eaten meat? Up until 17, I ate meat.

SPEAKER_02

Up to 17? Yeah, when I was your what was your favorite meat that you see eat? None. Do you know like the meat? So you don't like the taste of meat?

SPEAKER_04

Or did it meat doesn't have a taste. That's why everybody puts stuff on it.

SPEAKER_02

So, for example, like I don't know if you know what this, but I got bit by a tick.

Lyme Disease, Fasting, And Meat Comeback

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And I got Captain Lyme disease, I got Lyme disease, right? And it was like completely horrible, right? And it was like to a point where like anything that I would eat would have like a horrible effect on my body, like crazy. In particular, red meat was something that if I ate it like three minutes later, my hands would hurt. It was like intense, right? Long story short, obviously, you know, like one of my superhero powers is that I heal very well, right? So I was able to figure out what was wrong with me because I thought I had COVID or long COVID, right? And I was treating for long COVID and not really for uh Lyme disease. Anyways, once I got fixed, everything got better, and then I started fasting. So now I do like three-day fasts like once a month, which I think everybody should like, everybody should just stop eating like once in a while. Like like your body is like meant to like like heal itself and like and regenerate and like not be so concerned about all the shit that you're eating, right? And I love food, right? But sometimes it's just good to stop. Anyways, long story short, meat was the thing that would be horrible to my body. But now, like I'll go to like an all you can eat Brazilian like restaurant and I'll be like, Bring me the cow, bring me the chicken, bring me this. Give me it all bring me that, bring me its children, you know what I mean? Like everything, like eggs. Like, uh, do you eat eggs?

SPEAKER_00

No, you don't eat eggs?

SPEAKER_04

No, my god.

SPEAKER_00

So you're really vegan, then, right? You're more vegan than vegetarian?

SPEAKER_04

No, because I'll snort cheese. That's how much I like cheese. Oh, cheese. And survive. What's your favorite cheese? Ooh, brata.

SPEAKER_00

Brata. I like brothers, but it doesn't have a lot of flavor to it.

SPEAKER_04

This mozzarella with cream cheese inside.

SPEAKER_00

It doesn't have but brata doesn't have a lot of flavor. Oh, yeah. My husband's favorite is ricotta, and everyone's like so good, right?

SPEAKER_04

Ricotta's good. Yeah. So, okay. And Italians are good at a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01

Do you like cottage cheese? That's really simple. In and of itself, no.

SPEAKER_04

I don't like cottage. I can't eat cottage cheese. I like it as out of the channel.

SPEAKER_00

I love cottage cheese. And you can heat it, you can do all kinds of stuff with it.

SPEAKER_04

Since I was a kid, I never liked it, but like I will eat it in birata. Have you ever had a blince? A blince? I know that, yes, I have.

SPEAKER_02

Have you ever had a blinz?

SPEAKER_00

Blintses are good. All right. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

With sour cream on it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So you're so good. Very good. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. So Italians make everything good, especially their women. But their food is very good. Only in Italy. Because I don't even date American women, but Italian? Absolutely. If he liked a completely different food palette from you, right? When you met, when you started dating.

SPEAKER_00

He still does.

SPEAKER_04

He does? Oh yeah. He likes a different food palette than you?

SPEAKER_00

He's a bad thing. Has that ever been like Well, we both love Italian food. However, his he's got stomach issues. So certain things that I like, I love I love sauces. Okay. He stays away from sauces.

SPEAKER_02

I'm obsessed with spicy. The spicier the better. Spicer, the better. You like spicy too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I was written in the entire book. Yeah, you like spicy.

SPEAKER_02

But not like abusive spicy.

SPEAKER_04

No, because it just kills the taste of the food.

SPEAKER_02

When we went to when you got uh curry that one time at that Thai place, what how many stars did you get?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yummy. Um holy shit. You mean the one in Delray that we found when we were looking for the other books? It's so good. Nana noodles. Woo!

SPEAKER_00

Nana's noodles is it is like one of my Jesus Christ is in heaven now.

SPEAKER_04

That place is amazing. They have the back CU. We were going somewhere else and it was closed, and we're like, fuck, we gotta find somewhere close. And it was like serendipity.

SPEAKER_00

Nana's noodles is on my top five.

SPEAKER_04

So I went from mild to medium the other day.

SPEAKER_02

And it changed. Did it change a few things?

SPEAKER_04

They just like they they when you it's like it's like zero and one. It's like, oh, you either want none or like we're gonna we're gonna take you to the clinic. And it was it was a lot. It was a lot of spice, it was too much.

SPEAKER_02

Uh the spicier, the better for me. I love it. Like if my scalp, if my scalp isn't like sweating, we've got a problem. Love it.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, but it's different. You and your husband like Italian food. But let's say you liked Italian food, but he was like, I only eat steak and potatoes.

SPEAKER_00

Well, he really There's a lot of people like that. He is like that. He is a he is a man's man. He likes a starch, he likes a vegetable and a meat. Like he loves that. So if I make dinner.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. That's how my grandpa was.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he is so old school. Like it's gotta he likes to have either rice and a piece of chicken or a piece of meat and like a we eat a lot of like stir fry because it's a way for me to like, you know, so it's more, but it's more of a stomach issue.

SPEAKER_04

It's not like he doesn't want it, he just can't.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So he stays clear of anything that's but like let's say like you were with a few. Um he should.

SPEAKER_02

Should eat some probiotics.

SPEAKER_04

He totally should. But let's say you were with a your partner, right? And you just met them and like you like curry and you like spice, and they're like, I'm not about that, never gonna be into it, not into that kind of food.

SPEAKER_00

Done. I couldn't. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so okay, so food alignment is important.

SPEAKER_00

Correct.

SPEAKER_04

Other than if like medically you're disaligned.

SPEAKER_00

If I met someone and they said I hate curry, I think I wouldn't I could I couldn't date, I couldn't.

SPEAKER_02

So that's what food alignment and food compromise are two, could be two different things, and it could it could be a successful aspect of the relationship,

Michelin Dreams And Intimacy After A Meal

SPEAKER_02

right? So just because like you could you probably like for example, you might find the the woman of your dreams who is on the uh lion's diet. Do you know what the lion's diet is? No, lion's diet is literally red meat and salt. Okay, that is it.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Would you have a problem with that?

SPEAKER_04

Yes. Why? If if we can't go and get Indian and Thai curry, but that person That's a hill all dye on.

SPEAKER_02

That's a fucking hill dye on the thing. But that person can go and get steak over there with salt. What's the problem with it? Why do they have to eat what you're gonna eat? Why does that why is that necessary? But that's not necessary.

SPEAKER_04

Share this like awesome part of these awesome cultures with you and enjoy that together, you are not my dream person.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right. Agreed.

SPEAKER_04

That's understandable. Agreed. All right, like I would just like just washing, I would but this goes into my like whole thing that I struggle with people who seem culturally devoid. And if they just like that was like their diet, I my brain, whether it's true or not, my brain would take that as being culturally devoid. And I would no longer be able to get hard for you in this thing in the world.

SPEAKER_02

And like, and then some people are just like a safe like situation, you know what I mean? And some people like have like a very um adventurous palate, I think we would put it that way.

SPEAKER_00

But doesn't that correlate to who you are intellectually? I don't know if it has anything to do with that.

SPEAKER_04

You do one thing the way you do everything, kind of?

SPEAKER_00

Right. And I feel like if you just eat meat and potatoes and a starch, then you're maybe not a risk to be. You are extremely limited in your thinking, I feel. You're not it what does that say about you as a person?

SPEAKER_02

Are you this is gonna be a very boring relationship? Right, but at the same time, like you have to look at the situ the actual situation. Is it because they're limited or is it because physically they are they limit themselves because it's it's for a health situation?

SPEAKER_00

And there's every every culture in the world. Show me a doctor's note that is that is like missing school. Show me the doctor's nose.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, I I I ate whatever I want. I always eat whatever I want. If someone's with me and they don't want to eat what I want, that's fine. Go find something else that you want to eat. Like, for example, like people who are uh for maybe for religious purposes, they can't eat this certain thing. I'm like, all right, well, how is that my problem, right? Or if you're someone who's restricted to just eating vegetables, how is that my problem, right? This is this is not like a pro this is not everybody's problem.

SPEAKER_00

But then if you're dating someone like that, if you want to go to a restaurant, how do you agree on what type of cuisine they are?

SPEAKER_02

Right, but you but they can find something else.

SPEAKER_00

Like if like then someone's always compromising.

SPEAKER_02

But yes, you're always compromising, but there'll always be one location that like is it's your location that you guys can always go to too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but okay, but then now we can't be a ventress. We have to like stick to this location because the only thing that overlaps in our pen diagram, like I wanna like I want to do one of the things I want to do because I'm a foodie, I'm a complete fucking food. Is I want to do the Michelin tour down here in Florida. I'm gonna do the Michelin tour. But I haven't done it because I need to go with a fucking baddie because she'll be dessert, right? How much is it to do that? I don't care about cost.

SPEAKER_02

No, I know what I'm asking. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Is it the I don't even know what that would run, but it would sound sounds expensive, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's gonna be thousands. Yeah, thousands of dollars. But I mean, how else is money? Amazing, miraculous it would be.

SPEAKER_04

It sounds good. Like, I don't know, just to me the idea of like going with just like a woman you really like and like going and trying this like dope fucking cuisine from all these different cultures, like at the peak of it, and then you just want to like lick it up.

SPEAKER_00

But if she was not a foodie, it would suck because it would be great for you, but then you couldn't experience that with her.

SPEAKER_04

It wouldn't be like because to me, if you think of the like talk about intimacy, like there's an intimacy that comes with like being really close and sexual essential, whatever, with your partner, after you've gone and had a really good experience that then heightens the depth of the because like we were talking about earlier, like the concept of sex doesn't do anything for me. For whatever reason, it doesn't do anything for me. But the it within the context of being like the apex of having some great other experience that then is like it's like we've gone in like this arc, right? Yeah, like is where it is for me because it's the intimacy and sensuality of it that appeals to me. And it's the catalyst, it's it's like it's like the the capstone. It's like but it's the like there's never been a time, like I don't do one night stands and I never will because it doesn't appeal to me. Um, but like the idea of like being with a partner and going having a really good meal and then going back home and like being intimate after that and like just that whole like build up into it, and it's just like everything comes into it, right? Yes, if I couldn't have have shared that experience of the meal with the person, like I couldn't have had that build-up to that, like agree. Yeah.

Shoot Your Shot And Final Subscribe

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We're gonna do the info at PBJ. Just look at the fucking bottom because we don't even know. Yeah, we'll put it in.

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It'll be in the show notes.

SPEAKER_04

It's like people are like, you don't look at a phone number. I don't call myself.

SPEAKER_02

They all get forwarded to where they be. Um, but as always, it's been amazing. Uh great show, guys. Um Gabe Cutlin, the networking beast.

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