EP 6 - Can You Engineer the Perfect Relationship?

What starts as a conversation about social media algorithms quickly turns into a surprisingly deep debate about relationships, compatibility, entrepreneurship, aliens, religion, the afterlife, and whether love can be broken down into a formula.

The crew explores why people often say they want consistency and emotional maturity while chasing the exact opposite. From long-term relationships and deal breakers to entrepreneurial mindsets and dating in South Florida, the conversation takes plenty of unexpected turns. Along the way, they tackle questions about faith, energy, what happens when we die, and whether finding the right partner is science, luck, or something in between.

Of course, no PB&J episode would be complete without a detour into government UFO disclosures, freckles as a dating requirement, and a challenge for Gabe to finally go on three dates and report back with the data.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

And just like that, you're here. Welcome to the PB and J podcast, where things get a little messy, a little bold, and definitely not fucking bored.

SPEAKER_00 0:09

We're serving up some real talk, some hot takes, some conversations you probably shouldn't have, but we're having them anyway.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

So settle in. This is PB and J. Help us save the whale. Okay. My social media algorithm tends to be a moving target because like our guys' chat, which is like the fifth circle of hell. Um, like, you know, when people are like, if you die, like clear my browser history. Like, if I die, like delete that chat. Like, but and uh there's just so much shit that we throw to each other that our algorithms end up getting like polluted by other people singing. So my social out my social media algorithm is like a super moving target. Um, but one of the things and it's it's kind of cool though, because as it veers, it gets me like seeing things I wouldn't necessarily normally like think about, which is cool because then I get to like ruminate on topics that just don't occur to me in my daily life because I just don't care enough about stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Name an example. Like what? Yeah, because I can tell you what's on my own.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Everybody's algorithm's different and every social media is gonna be different. So, like, what is this? Your Facebook, your Instagram? This is my Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

Okay, when this ha this had I've been getting a lot of this in the last couple days, and I was like, oh, I want to bring this up because I'd be interested to hear other people's perspective. And so, and this like also your phone's definitely listening to you because it's also like totally totally listening, reflects um a like you know, things that happen in your life as they happen. And it was this idea, and this is to do with like relationships, like um this idea of this juxtaposition, and maybe this is more prevalent down here versus New England. I feel like in New England, like people were very different, people were very more down-to-earth and like loved like intellectual things and like were more thought-provoking and and look for more thought.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Well they're surrounded by the most interesting universities in the world. So their level of conversation is gonna be different at the local pub than it's gonna be, you know, for sure on the beach here in Del Rey.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

100%. And so there was there's this thing that came up, and so I started talking to my friends about it kind of, and I was interested to get you all's perspective about like um people looking for like saying they want like I want someone who's consistent, or like I want like someone who's emotionally mature, right? And all these things, but then their behaviors tend to push them toward like the exact opposite. And what it was talking about is which I had not necessarily thought about it from this perspective, was the fact that like you like that shit you call passion because it's not, it's volatility, and it's because it's like triggering the anxiety in your system, and you're so used to like living that way.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

I still don't know what like the topic is though. Like you're just blabbing. Like, what is the topic? Like, just classify it as something. It was the topic it sounds like shitty relationship algorithm that you're stuck on or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Well, I don't know if I'm stuck in it.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

I was just curious to get someone's perspective because like I'll start on liking stuff because it sounds like it's Gabe. Are you going through menopause? I'm not going through menopause. I'm just trying to figure out what what the what the what it was.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

I wanted to ask the two.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Like, for example, TikTok for me is like the aliens are coming.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

And I'm like so fascinated by that because like there's all these records being released by like the government, like all these people are are it's just like the Greys and like this and that. Like that is like fascinating to like to like possibly know that there's something out there that could have potentially created.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Remember that I said this, Gabe, on that point. I know a doctor, she is a psychotherapist here in Boca Del Rey area. She has actually claimed to be abducted several times by the grades. I've told her, I've asked her several times. I'm just thinking interview her.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

I will totally interview her. I would love to talk to her. Like I think.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

I still like anecdotal evidence. I don't like it. Okay, so we were created. So we were created, yeah. Everything that exists on Earth outside of hydrogen was the result of an exploding star. Because higher elements don't naturally exist, right? So everything here, by definition, was created.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Who exploded the star?

SPEAKER_02 4:18

Who means who exploded the star?

SPEAKER_01 4:19

Who exploded the star? Actually, it takes pressure. But who caused the catalyst to happen? So, okay, so you're saying So I'm just like all these cool things, like they're talking about. We're talking easily. Well, because we can't figure out just an example. I'm just giving you an example. No, we're just so I love that shit. We're circling back to you. I love that shit. My my Instagram is like plants and like horrible ways to die. And like animals getting attacked by like predators. It's like crazy how like weird it is, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Mine's all about reptiles. I'm obsessed with reptiles. And then my weird.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

And then my Facebook is like uh Indonesian gardens and like business things. You know what I mean? So let's circle back to you. Let's let's classify where you what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

The moment you start talking about cosmology, I like I love that shit. Like aliens, just just the universe in general.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

Like what did you do your doctorate in?

SPEAKER_02 5:18

It was in a field called axiomatic design, which is like how to properly design any system. You can take any system or any process and perfectly design it and get the exact result you want whenever you want.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Does that pertain to like the start of the universe?

SPEAKER_02 5:31

And does that no, not necessarily? It's just like let's say you had a business or anything you wanted to do, and you're like, how do I make this thing work? I can take it and make it work perfectly from the get-go every time.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

So why don't you implement like you're you're terrible at following up? So based on your like major that you've specialized in, why are you implementing it into you need to follow up with people, everybody? It's really important to follow up with whatever you do in life because if you don't follow up, you just let things like that.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

I suck at that and I hired a VA to actually follow up with all the business cards that I received from those two networking events on the same day. I like gave them all to my VA. I was like, please follow up because I know myself and I won't do it.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Yeah, I just don't need to. I've never needed to follow up. Like, people just hand me their money. I've never looked for a client my whole career. People just hand me their money. So I did.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

I'm like, here, here's my money.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

People just like offer me their shit. And so, like, I have a system that nobody seems to understand why it's working, including myself. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So I just like it.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

But the system that the galaxy, what Gabe is getting to, is that like going back to aliens, right? Okay. Going back to that. Don't look at it.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

You don't know that you don't know those aliens. We know there are millions of cultures out there, but we don't know that they had any influence on us. We don't know that.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

I think, I think that we do know that. We don't. It just hasn't been released yet.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

I can go into this. I'm a very knowledgeable.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

And you know what they're saying? And it's not just, and it's not just like some crazy person wearing an aluminum hat on their head, right? It's not just that. It's literally people from the government, senators, and they're saying that the truth, the reason they're like they're having a problem releasing the truth is because our minds will not be able to grasp what the reality of things could potentially be.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

See, I think that is.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Because it will have an impact on religion, yeah, it will have an impact on your existence, and it'll have an impact on what you think happens when you die.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Why? If you if you found that. What if there's other civilizations? Like, how would it change my life?

SPEAKER_00 7:33

I know there are other civilizations because then people would question, like, it I'm Catholic. Well, is Jesus the Messiah?

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Right. What if what if in some other faraway land in the universe there is some God that is, you know, special meetings, that's special meetings for like religious figures to like start talking about how do you prep people. Whatever. Whatever, whatever we we think of as life as it being right now, it could it may be something different. And I think that is just so fast. I am not a religious person at all. I am a person of faith. I don't have religion. I am not a religious person at all. I believe in being good, I believe in being truthful, and I believe that if you do those two things, everything's gonna be okay. Yeah, I don't know if there's a God out there, if there's a God out there, I am sure that the God would expect me to be a good person and would judge me based on being a good person.

SPEAKER_00 8:28

I'm so glad you didn't say I'm not religious, I'm spiritual, because if I hear that one more fucking time, I want to strangle someone. What?

SPEAKER_01 8:35

That what?

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Oh, I'm not religious, I'm spiritual. Like it is a weird story. Well, what are you spiritual about?

SPEAKER_02 8:41

So I'm not religious. I know that there are things that I don't know, and I accept that there may be things that I don't have an answer to. So for me to be like something doesn't exist requires like a large level of arrogance when we learn something new every day. Now, I'm of a belief system that we believe that there are living gods, and to us, a living god is just someone who's come back many times and gotten rid of all their karma and is more in tune with the part.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

See, like But there's Ra the sun god in the Egyptian culture. There's all the which is the real god.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

But that was the fact that you had groups of people who didn't have science and they're like, what the fuck is that thing and why is it moving? Like, we need to interpret it in a way that like makes sense to us who don't have the tools to be able to properly figure out what it is.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Or maybe, or maybe those beings that are being idolized are actually people not from our own genetic being.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Okay, so you can make an argument that there's a civilization that's more advanced to us that in theory is God because they ceded life to create us. You that that is one possibility. That is that is a possibility.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

It doesn't have to be like an almighty one person. It it and like what's crazy is like they're they're saying, they're insinuating, they haven't confirmed it yet, but like things they said in 2026 is when a lot of the information is being released. Every year, no, information is being released, and it's true. Like, have you watched any of the government hearings?

SPEAKER_02 9:59

No, well, I watched the government hearing when they're like, we have the all these unexploring aerial phenomena that seem to violate what we understand is physics and we don't know what it is, right? Now, does that mean it is a being from another civilization? No, if it was a being from another civilization, that like okay, that's fine. I would love if that happened and people started questioning is this the Messiah, blah blah blah? Because I think people asking questions and having pointed conversations is like good for everybody, regardless of what you conclude.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

And I think for for you, because of what your doctorate is in, and that's why I asked, systems that are proven over time, hence it's a proof.

SPEAKER_03 10:35

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:35

This system, you do X, Y, and Z to achieve this outcome. But the unknown is such a different, it's a system that can't be the unknown control.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

It cannot be controlled.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

So my doctorate is if you have this thing you want to get, right? And you have this system, so like you want to make money, you have business, you want to make money, okay? And you have all these things, you don't control making money. You do all these things that in theory will like, you know, lead you to making money, right? Whether it's like recording people on a podcast or like creating a car, whatever it is, that's gonna turn to money, right? The problem is is when you have these very big corporation conglomerates, right? What are all the parts if you could control, if you want this outcome, why are you not able to get this outcome to be exactly what you want? Why can you not control exactly how much money you make, right? You're doing these things to make money, but you're not always getting the result you want. Why is that? Because there's certain things you're doing that have no influence on that goal, and there are certain things you should be doing that have influence on the goal that you're not controlling. And what my doctorate does is we break it down mathematically to figure out all the things you need to do at a day-to-day level to perfectly control the outcome so you can get the exact outcome you want every time. And if you're not, you can literally see when the where in the system your issue is so you can correct it. So it gives you perfect transparency of any system and perfect control of the outcome.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

So, what do you think is gonna happen to us when we die?

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Um, I think that the carbon other elements in my body are gonna go back into the system.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

He's such a doctor. That's the scientific because that's proven in theory and and that's the the proof of it.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Like when I when I die, I want to be buried underneath a tree. Okay. I want to be buried at sea. I'm kidding. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

I want to be burned. I don't want to be buried anywhere. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Put me, put me on like a multiple.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Do you think there's gonna be like an af some sort of afterlife of something? I don't know. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

So it's different because in our beliefs, so in our belief. In my belief system, we're it's not like a it's not a thing like that. You then your energy will go and you'll come back again. Like your energy doesn't just as something else here. And that's coming back to something else.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

And that's kind of how I feel also. Like, I I agree with you, like the whole you're referring to like the nitrogen cycle. This is like my current configuration of energy. When people decompose and then their particles become part of something else. Like, I feel like that's that's something, but like it's like bigger than just than just that. Like our body gets recycled, but then something else happens. And I don't know yet what that is, you know what I mean. I don't want to say that I'm a spiritual person, but like I kind of I don't know if I am, but I'm more like an energy, like I feel things, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 13:09

Like I you should, because everything is energy in the universe is energy equals mass, E equals M C square. Energy is equal to mass at the constant speed of light, right? So like they're the same exact thing. So you should feel that way.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Um going back to algorithms. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

Anyway, so my whole thing was I was just curious because the two of you have been in long-term stable relationships because I know both of your partners, right? I was just curious, and this is so funny because this is I love the tangents as we go on. Um, this is what makes this so fun. Um I was curious because I'm watching these algorithms, and I'm like, I'm curious because there was this idea of like the desire for consistency and the desire for like emotional maturity, right? But then um this juxtaposition that comes with it of like most of the choices people make are the exact opposite of those things that are clearly like good pillars for your relationship. The things they chase tend to be the opposite of that. And I was curious for you having been in long-term relationships where like you must have good pillars or you wouldn't still be in those situations. Do you um do you feel like it's do you feel like those are things you notice and like cling to? Because this is something I think about as I watch this stuff, like, oh yeah, like those are things you should want. Like, why do people not want those things when the people I know who have the best situations can have those situations?

SPEAKER_01 14:35

It's like you're searching. What are you searching for? You're obviously searching for something if you're like if you have these algorithms that are like are influencing.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

It's not that I'm I'm lit, I'm searching for thought, like things that provoke my thought and give me different perspectives on different ideas for having because like psychology and understanding how people think is something like I think. Specifically for a relationship or for a relationship or for a relationship management, not even a romantic relationship, but I'm saying everything's a relationship because humans are tribal creatures, so yeah, but this is more like an intimate relationship, like someone you want to date. Is it seems like but I consider this an intimate relationship because I know you very well, right? But I don't know that I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

The algorithm that you're specifically are attached to right now on your phone, like is it for like I want to date somebody type of relationship?

SPEAKER_02 15:23

No, it's just like connections, and then it lead me to thinking because like I remember last time we talked and we were talking about like wow, the pandas have no drama, and I was just thinking, like, is it the fact that like I'm just trying to denote certain, and this does lead into my doctorate, like if there's a certain outcome you want, like, are there certain qualities that matter more than others for that lead to to uh really good relationships? Like in general, that's what e-harmony was trying to figure out, right? And so that's what it got me thinking, is less like, oh, I want to find some more just like are there certain qualities that you could distill that may or may not be obvious, some that may be obvious, some that are not obvious, that just you've you've noticed over the long like over the long-term nature of your relationships that have like held true, that you're like, this is literally why it's been so good.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

No, I think relationships are hard work and you have to work at it every single day. And anyone who says, like, I could look at Roy some days and be like, I really don't like him right now, but I love him, but he could piss me off to the point where I'm like, I don't want to be in the same room with you, but it'll blow over and we'll work through it. I mean, that's just life. That's like any friendship that you have.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

It's the same component as people are always changing, they're never gonna be the same. So you're always having to like re-analyze or reconstruct or recompromise or like whatever. You know, if you want to be in that relationship, then you're gonna do whatever you can to sustain the relationship. As long as both parties are happy with one another, then that's the success of the relationship. You have to listen to people, you have to talk to people, you have to tell people the truth, you have to tell people the hard truths. You know, there's all these different things that relate to a specific relationship that ultimately, like without communication, without understanding who you are also and understanding who the other person is, it's gonna be very difficult to have a successful relationship. And you know, and also it's like, what's your goal? Do you want a very long relationship or do you want a short relationship? It also depends on how it is. And I think these attributes are. But it was still a period of time in your life where it was like a phenomenal part of your life that made you happy, maybe, you know. Like, I don't know. You know, like not everything has to always last forever.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

I don't do anything casually in my life. Like nothing, like anything it is, I go all in. Like painting. I'll sit there and paint for 10 hours straight. Like I don't do literally nothing casually.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

So why aren't you like, are you dating anybody or no?

SPEAKER_02 18:04

No. Let's go with no.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Um, what I what I'm like, I'm just dating my algorithm. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

It's more like it's more like it's hard to find. It's tough because I know my rarity, and so it's it's not even like I know my value thing, it's just like I know my rarity, and like I like such an interesting conglomeration of things that it's do you have a problem with compromising? No, I have no problem with compromising. I'm like the easiest person in the world. Like, like I told you, there's like a running bet for anyone give me to raise my voice.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

So, what are your deal breakers?

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Um entitlement's the first one. Like the the the quality I hate the most in this country is just the behavior of entitlement, which is what it makes it a struggle down here because it's like it's gone past like the like innuendo to women being like, I want someone who will support me, like I want to be financially supported. This is a transaction, like let's go to the negotiating table, which is like a really way weird way for me to approach things, but we seem to be like an accepted norm down here. So that eliminates like a massive swath of the population, right? Because I'm just not about that. Um, secondly, like I can't be with a jobby. That's like a killer. I can't be with someone who has a job, a nine to fiver because as an entrepreneur, that's because you're retired. No, just as an entrepreneur, you think like so differently, like than someone who runs the nine to five life. Like, there's just like a there's time doesn't line up.

SPEAKER_00 19:22

There's there's time constrictions, there's um well amassing the amount of wealth that you have at such a young age allows you to have the freedom to paint for 10 hours a day. So, like ideally, I think maybe your best mate, right?

SPEAKER_02 19:37

Keep in mind, I did not amass a mar swath of wealth myself. Like I had a f a family that gave me like a massive springboard that made things easier. I just decided to not make bad choices. Okay, but either way, how it wasn't me. I just like I wanted to make sure it was like it was not me.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

But however, however that is, for you, your perfect person, probably in a relationship. Maybe they work from home or they have a business where they're able to work digitally, so that way you all can do things during the day when normal people are in like a.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

How do we like a performance-based mindset versus like a time yields rewards mindset?

SPEAKER_01 20:19

So like you I think I think you're attracted to people who who build something. Yeah, I think it's a builder mentality.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

It's like that that's an entrepreneurial mindset that is attractive to you.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with like a nine to five.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

No, there's nothing wrong with it.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

But like you just can't be with that. But but when someone has control over their freedom, right, and someone doesn't have the same control, there is a there is some degree of difference there.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

I think it goes back to the survive versus drive mindset, and I have a tough time being around survive mindsets.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Like I need to be So nine to fives are survivors, they're relying on other people to bring in their you've literally given away control.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yeah, but I think like people people who are also entrepreneurs, they're survivors also, because they'll reinvent, they'll recreate, they'll redo things as well. So I think those things not that they're not survivors, that has to be seven, not that they're not survivors.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

A nine to fiver is going to trade X time for X amount of money, and anything that exists above them, they can't have because so those are those people who like to be enabled. I don't know if they like to be enabled, they're just willing to trade like a level of freedom for a security that I consider to be a survive mindset. Whereas entrepreneurs are survivors because it is a gauntlet, especially down here. But there's a strive mindset ver which says like I'm going to like eat shit to one day accelerate past the limit of where others can go. And that is one point three percent of the population, so that eliminates a huge another swath of the datable population. And then I don't drink, so I don't go to local watering holes, right? So like that doesn't interest me and like I like what do I like? I like painting. I like anime. I like like film. Film junkie. I like forms of art. Like I like things that are very like thought-provoking. Any form of art. And that is not. When I lived in New England, that stuff was heralded. And if I went out west or to Colorado, people like that stuff. The more like ethereal things. But here that's not that's not like heralded as much. So it makes it tough. In fact, Florida's armpit.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

I've been to go like on dates or something. Maybe you need to or maybe you need to like reduce your standards, or maybe you're just happy.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

That's where it goes, Dennis. You need to reduce your standards, and it's like, well, then isn't that 95%?

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Or maybe or maybe or maybe you need a well death. Death first either either you're happy, either you're content where you are, or you're content where you are.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Yeah, I love my life.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

So at the end of the day, like if you the best, yeah, they are. They're great. Absolutely. When you can share experiences in your life with somebody else, I think it's a phenomenal thing.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Obviously, you know, I'm obsessed with blue zones and all of that. I mean, sense of community, sense of fulfillment and relationships and life, whether that be a loved companion, you know, a mate, or someone who you're in a very dear friendship with. Yeah, yeah. It's not a struggle.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Like I get asked out frequently. I just like it's put it this way in 10 years I've been here, there's been three people who I looked at as a potential mate. In 10 years, three humans.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

We are in South Florida, though. It's a cesspool. Three of not so good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Uh yeah, I don't know. I I think if you're happy the way you are, then you're happier the way you are.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

But this all star, I was just curious. I was just curious because I approach things with a scientific mind. So as I see all these like differing things where people are like, you should do this, you should like this, what about this, what about this? I just get curious and I'm like, I wonder if there's a way we could distill this to like someone should be 90% consistent, but 10% inconsistent. Like if you could distill it down to like a formula.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

The coolest part of this podcast is that some woman out there is gonna see that.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Someone, someone with freckles, someone with freckles in here. And as they're freckles in her, and right. But that's kind of weird. Like, why why would the freckles thing be a deal breaker? Freckles are like the best invention ever. Why don't you just get like a sharpie? You know?

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Uh on that note, if I have to.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

On that note, they're so good.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

Anyway, so hopefully one day you will find um your true they have redhead meetups like once a year in like Sweden or whatever, where it's like all the redheads go out, and I was like, I should just go out there.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Or Scotland, you can go find it, you find a nice ginger.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

That's why New England's good because there's so many of Irish descent. It's like freckles are everywhere. Far as the eye could see.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

You should create like a dating app called Freckles. Maybe it will. And then you'll have access to a infinite amount of dating. Use it to feed my selfish needs. Potential dates. So use my powers for evil.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

Well, I think uh must love painting, must have freckles, yeah, all those different things.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

This is this is not me advertising for myself or must be an entrepreneur, must be an entrepreneur.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

I mean, those are all I mean, everybody has their their guidelines, but I mean, I think after a while, if you become too critical, you'll just be you'll be by yourself.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

I've never had a problem with waiting for things. Okay. Like patience, I'm a very patient person in the sense that like so.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Even on your last day of life, if you find the one person, you'll be okay with that.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Or even if I never did. Just like I I know so many, I know so many people, and and I don't like anecdotal evidence, but I've just witnessed so many people in my life who are. Then why don't why like five years at least 20 years?

SPEAKER_01 25:29

You should just like serial date and just go through a bunch of different people. Just run the numbers and just go at it. Yeah. I think that would be the best thing to do because I think what you need is data. You're lacking data and you're searching for data in all the wrong places. You're asking other people, you're asking about other people's life experiences where you haven't curiosity where you haven't been able to conclusively decide exactly how it's affecting your life currently. Because you have you like you, I think you just need a serial date.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

You I need a serial date. Serial date. Just go on to date. Like the way I walk every night, just seven nights a week.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Swiping right. Just keep swiping. Just keep swiping right. And then and then um, and then just coordinate accordingly and send out your calendar link to people and dating apps are such a strange thing. And then and then coordinate a time to uh to be with them. Yep. Because um, that's I think that's what you need. You just need data.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

It's not that look, if it was that if it was that that serious, if it was that that serious, I would just go to South America or Europe for six months, problem take care of itself. Everybody there's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

I know, but you're curious about other people's experiences when you're not really trying to establish your own. I do establish my own.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

I was just I can be curious that's like such a wild accusation.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

No, I it's not an accusation. It's it's just it's my it's I can be curious about someone else's lived experience and not it doesn't mean that I don't form my own.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

I can just be curious about people you, you who I love. I can be curious about people who I respect, right? And you make good decisions or you would not be a part of my circle. I can be curious about your lived experiences and want to the same way I will get someone's perspective on something because I find it enriching to me to have that information, see it from perspective I don't. I just find it enriching.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

I don't need it to I want you to go on three dates next month. Three dates next month and I want you to report back your experience. I'm kidding. I would hope that they're human. I don't, I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

There's that dating site, Redhead. Isn't there that dating site for gingers?

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Farmersonly.com. Exactly. Something weird like that. I was gonna say, put the goat away. Seriously. Oh my god. No, but go go go on a three date and and like see if you you could actually connect with someone who doesn't have freckles.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

If you are listening. So I have to go on three dates, but they can't have freckles.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

They cannot have freckles. Then why even yes? I'm gonna just want to spend money? You should go because you might find someone who really surprises you. Maybe you're maybe you're looking underneath the wrong freckle.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

I don't look for reasons to say no to things. So I will try that and try it out.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

All right. Love it.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

All right.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

All right, kids.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Can't believe I've gotten suckered into this. That's fine. I'll do it. We'll see you uh later. It's uh what time is it?

SPEAKER_02 28:21

It's yeah, thank you for tuning into the PBJ and podcast, Panda Beast, J9, getting me to fucking date things I dislike. We'll see how that goes.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

See you guys later. It's a Freckle Past 2, and it's time to go. See you guys soon.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

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