WEBVTT 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:09.599 Welcome to Sharper's World, the publication ministry of White House Baptist Church in Lemon Grove, California. 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:16.480 White House believes that individuals can reach their potential for the Lord as they grow in Christ. 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:22.320 We want to hear our Lord say, Well done, thou good and faithful servant. 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:29.600 Let's join Pastor Doug Fisher as he preaches another important biblical message from the Word of God. 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.039 Hebrews chapter 12 this morning, please. 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:36.880 Hebrews chapter 12. 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:39.920 I owe you 20 minutes from last week. 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.119 It might take me a year to pay you back. 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:46.880 Hebrews chapter 12. 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:51.200 Hebrews chapter number 12, and then also Galatians chapter 5. 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:57.840 Hebrews chapter number 12, please, and Galatians chapter number 5. 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:07.040 Please follow along, and we're gonna go back and forth in the New Testament just a little bit this morning, but let me introduce this to you. 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:11.040 The scripture is really not controversial at all. 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:17.599 Just the topic is a little bit uh uh difficult to put in a in a pleasant way. 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:27.280 Hebrews chapter number 12, and and may I say that uh I I don't conjure up these topics. 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:33.519 Sometimes the Lord just so clearly says, here's the topic of today. 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.200 Hebrews chapter 12, look at verse 5. 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:45.599 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as children. 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:50.879 So just for a moment, let's put ourselves in mind of being children. 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:56.239 Doesn't matter your age, everybody in here, we're children right now. 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.200 So it speaks to us as children. 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:11.039 My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him. 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:15.120 Now, before we go on, let's make sure we understand what he's saying. 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:21.680 He's speaking to us as children, and I want to tell you, he's not scolding us, he's exhorting us. 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:26.319 And he's saying, look, you're going to be chastened. 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:32.159 There's going to be a rebuke once in a while from God because you're children. 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:41.199 May I say to you that the concept of chastening or rebuke is this correction, instruction. 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:51.199 Then he says, chastening, which we're going to see a word in just a minute that brings another context, but before we get in there, look at verse 6. 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:54.960 For whom the Lord, would you say the word, loveth? 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.000 Say it again, what? 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:56.639 Love. 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:03.039 Brethren, he's not doing this in a manner that's trying to discourage us. 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.800 He's saying to us, children, I love you. 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:20.800 And anybody who's uh, if you would, uh, training someone and exhorting someone as children is going to love them, and once in a while, there's going to be correction, there's going to be instruction, there's going to be rebuke. 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:26.400 So the action of love, he says, for the Lord, whom the Lord loveth, he chasteneth. 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:30.960 And scourgeth, would you underline the next word, every. 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.560 Every son whom he receiveth. 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:45.280 And then he goes on to say, if you endure chastening, God dealeth with you as sons, for what son is he who the father chasteneth not? 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:57.599 I want you to see that it's very clear that everybody receives some correction, some instruction, some rebuke, and it says, chastening and scourging. 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:00.000 Now, we need to make sure we understand that. 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.919 Scourging is an infliction of some pain. 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.240 I want to say that again. 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:14.240 Scourging is when he inflicts and there's some suffering involved to make the correction more significant. 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:16.720 Come on, are you still with me or not? 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:30.079 He says, Look, I can tell you, but I need to tell you so you respond to it, so I'm going to allow a little infliction or affliction or scourging to get the point across. 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:31.759 Now stay with me. 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:33.439 But he does it for love. 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:39.199 He does it out of love, and he knows how to handle every one of his children. 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.480 We should not question if he knows how to handle us or not. 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.399 God is always fair. 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:48.000 I'll say it again. 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.079 God is never unfair. 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:54.800 He's always fair, and it's done out of love, whether we understand it or not. 00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:01.199 So he says, I'm gonna scourge you, I'm gonna chasten you, I'm gonna correct you, I'm gonna rebuke you. 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:01.600 Why? 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:02.319 There's a reason. 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:03.920 Stay with me, don't lose it yet. 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:05.199 Verse 8. 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:19.040 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof, notice the word, all A-L, all, everybody in here are partakers, then ye are bastards and not sons. 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:20.000 Bastard. 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:23.360 Uh what that speaks about, it's not genuine. 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:25.759 It's it's it's uh ingenuine. 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:34.639 Hey, when we're adopted and become children and we're born again, he says, you will receive some correction from me. 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:38.800 If not, then it's not a genuine adoption. 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:40.959 Come on, are you still with me or not? 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:54.160 Now, I need to stop here just for a second and say, when young children get saved, possibly they can grow up and not have to be quite as corrected as some of us who lived in the world for a while. 00:05:55.439 --> 00:06:02.639 But I want to tell you, even children, when they become adults, I'll show you in a moment, they get corrected by God. 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:14.319 As they're growing up, just because they don't have as much to deal with in a negative way, God still loves them and still rebukes them and still corrects them. 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:19.040 Even later on, if you would, as adults, it's a continual process, stay with me. 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:24.240 Don't get stuck on that word bastard, and and that's not the one I was, would I say it or not? 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:26.160 Bastard's not a bad word. 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:30.639 It may be used in a slang way, but it's not a bad word. 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:36.240 And bastard talks about being disingenuine or not authentic. 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:43.519 When we're adopting, brother, one of the things we know that everybody who gets saved is going to get scourged a little bit. 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:45.600 There's going to be some rebuke. 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:47.519 There's going to be a little chastisement. 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:53.279 And if you're discipling someone, don't be surprised when they go through that of God a little bit. 00:06:53.600 --> 00:07:07.120 If you're taking somebody up, mentoring them along the way, when they say, it just seems like I'm getting spanked by God a little bit, or some things are happened that are allowing me to be corrected, you just say to them, that's normal. 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.360 Oh, go through that because it's his process. 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.000 And it's not unfair. 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:17.040 Come on, everybody's still all right. 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:25.279 So the concept is there's going to be this scourging, chastening, done out of love, rebuke, correction. 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:26.319 Verse 9. 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:34.480 Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence. 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:35.920 What's that said? 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:39.040 Hey, parents correct us and we reverence them. 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:44.399 Shall we not much rather be in subjection? 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:48.399 So what this correction does, it makes us submissive. 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:52.399 Be in subjection unto the Father of spirits and live. 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:59.040 For they, dads and moms of this earth, verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure. 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.920 But he, for our profit. 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:09.120 We're gonna gain something out of this, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:17.040 He chastens us, he scourges us because he loves us and he wants us to be more holy like he is. 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:19.600 Stay with me. 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:21.199 Verse 11. 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:23.680 Thank God he gives us reality. 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:29.120 Now, no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous. 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:34.159 Okay, I'm just gonna tell you, and it's not what I was worried about telling you. 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.519 When I was a young boy, I got spanked once in a while. 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.559 Back in the Midwest, they did that. 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:48.480 I gotta tell you, when I came out, I I got spanked in the cellar. 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.480 Do you know what a cellar is? 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:58.159 It's it's it leads down under the house, and there's cabinets down there to store canned goods. 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.799 We always had canned goods, and it was cooler down there. 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.039 But also it was uh noise-proof. 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:16.240 So I would be told, go wait on the stairs for me. 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:24.639 Literally, and I I look at that now with fond memories. 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.840 It'll bring tears to me right now in the right way. 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:29.840 Because it was love. 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:31.919 It was love. 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:38.399 Go wait on the stairs for me, and sometimes he wouldn't come in for two hours. 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:50.879 I'm gonna tell you, your mind can really get corrected while you wait. 00:09:53.360 --> 00:10:02.639 And once in a while there would be the correction, and very rarely he would come in and say, Okay, you can leave now. 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.440 Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.440 Grace, I didn't know what the word grace meant then, but I understand it now. 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:12.159 Amen. 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.679 You know, he thought, I already corrected him. 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.200 He already went through the mental process. 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.799 So the idea is that no correction seems to be joyous. 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:26.559 Verse 11, but grievous. 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:33.679 Nevertheless, afterwards it yieldeth the peaceful fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:34.960 Wherefore? 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:50.720 Because it's for your profit, because it's he loves you, because it's for your betterment, because he owns you, because he's the perfect father, lift up the hands which hang down and the feeble knees. 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:52.080 Brethren, what does that mean? 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.480 Don't pout about it. 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:57.360 You say that's your interpretation. 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.559 Don't don't do this. 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:04.559 Come on, lift him up. 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:06.799 I needed it. 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.759 It was for my prophet, he's right. 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:14.960 Glory be to God. 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.320 I'm not gonna walk around like a victim. 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.000 God did it because he loves me. 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:26.000 It's part of being his child. 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:35.519 And I am thankful for his correction of me because I can only correct myself so much. 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:40.159 Then he jumps in and says, Let's take it a little bit further. 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:42.159 Now watch this if you would. 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.519 Hold your place right there in Hebrews 12. 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:47.120 And please look at Galatians 5. 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:47.840 Stay right with me. 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:49.039 Galatians 5. 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:51.440 I'm really thinking about your time this morning. 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:53.039 Galatians 5. 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:55.200 Now watch Galatians 5 very carefully. 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.279 You're holding your place in Hebrews 12. 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.200 Look at verse 17. 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:00.960 Verse 17. 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:05.840 For the flesh, oh, back up to verse 16. 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:10.879 This I say then, walk in the spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:17.840 For the flesh lusteth against the capital S spirit, and the spirit against the flesh. 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:25.279 And these are contrary the one to or the other, so that you cannot do the things that ye would. 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:27.519 Now watch what he says. 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:29.519 There's the spirit, then there's the flesh. 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:35.600 If you're new to the Bible, the flesh talks about the carnal man, the old man, the old nature that we were born with. 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.120 When we get born again, we get a new nature that wants to follow God. 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:42.720 But there's still an old nature in us that's rebellious. 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:45.759 Let me say amen for you on that one. 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:47.039 Everybody's got one. 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:53.840 So he says this the flesh, the old man, the carnal, lusted against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh. 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:55.200 These are contrary. 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:58.000 They don't get along the one to the other. 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.879 So that you cannot do the things that ye would. 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:02.240 Now, what you do this? 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.360 If you can, you're holding your place in Hebrews 12. 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.440 You're holding your place in Galatians 5, and look over at Romans 8. 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:10.879 Stay with me, you're doing great. 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.759 You're holding in Roman Hebrews 12, we're going back in a moment. 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.039 You're holding in Galatians 5, and look at Romans 8. 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:18.240 Watch this carefully. 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:18.879 You're doing great. 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:20.159 Look at verse 7. 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.240 Romans 8, verse 7. 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:28.240 Because, because the carnal mind, that old man, that flesh, is enmity. 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:29.840 It's an enemy against God. 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:34.240 For it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:36.240 Let me make this statement right now. 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:42.639 When God is chastening us, he's chastening the carnal part of us. 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:47.120 When God is correcting us, he's correcting the old nature. 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:50.240 He's correcting the old carnal person. 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:57.919 He's correcting, if you would, the one that would say the flesh, the old man, the natural man, the carnal man. 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.639 He's correcting, if you would, our old nature. 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.799 You say, boy, I'm glad this is just for men. 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:04.320 It's men and women. 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:06.799 Just want to include you in there, amen. 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:10.159 It's everybody, all his children get corrected. 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:14.159 But what he's correcting is that old nature, and let's make a statement to ourselves. 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:17.039 We can only correct our old nature so much. 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:21.919 The reason we can't correct our old nature like we should is we like ourselves too much. 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:28.879 I like myself enough that I don't want to inflict pain upon myself except for a little fasting once in a while. 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:32.480 Fasting is a wonderful thing, but sometimes it's not enough. 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.279 That old nature for some of us is pretty strong. 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:40.080 That carnal nature is pretty strong. 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:45.039 And the idea is the spirit and the carnal nature are against each other. 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:46.000 They're enmity. 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.240 Now, look if you would at verse 13. 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:49.440 Verse 13. 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:53.759 And by the way, you could read 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:55.360 We just don't have that time to do it all. 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.519 But you could read that whole context, verse 13. 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:00.240 If you live after the flesh, ye shall die. 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:08.399 But if you through the spirit, through the spirit, do mortify the deeds of the f body, ye shall live. 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.320 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:17.679 So, brethren, our flesh wants to do different things, and the Spirit says, no, I'm gonna correct that. 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:19.279 I'm gonna chasten that. 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:21.360 I'm gonna I'm gonna scourge that. 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:22.639 I'm gonna correct that. 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:31.039 I'm gonna instruct you in that, and I'm even going to once in a while bring some affliction your way to put that old nature in its place. 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:32.159 What? 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.720 The old nature should not be ruling us, the spirit of God should be ruling us. 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.840 But the old nature wants to rise up and rule us, and God says, I need to correct him. 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.080 I need to correct you. 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.559 I need to do it in such a way that I'm going to inflict a little pain. 00:15:53.759 --> 00:16:00.159 I'm gonna inflict a little pain just a little bit so you suffer, so you submit. 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:05.039 And everybody gets this. 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:10.720 And it's not unfair because God knows what he's doing and he told us about it. 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.080 I'll give you an illustration in a moment in the book. 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:23.440 The idea is he loves us, it's gonna profit us, it's gonna make us better, it's gonna make us partakers of his righteousness, his characteristics. 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:30.960 But in order to do that, he has to, if you would, discipline the old nature, and that's us. 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:32.399 It's still me. 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:35.039 When you get saved, there's two of you. 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.000 There's two of you. 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:40.000 Old and new. 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.960 When God corrects, he's correcting the old. 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:45.039 So the new can take over. 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:48.639 He's getting rid of the old. 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.799 So the new that wants to fellowship with God is in charge. 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.440 Now, with that in mind, leave off Romans 8. 00:16:57.600 --> 00:16:59.679 You're still holding Galatians 5. 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:01.279 Go back to Hebrews 12. 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:02.080 You're doing great. 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.360 Hebrews 12. 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:04.559 We're halfway through. 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.039 We're not to the controversial statement yet. 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:08.480 Still deciding. 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:09.680 Hebrews 12. 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:10.960 Now watch it again. 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:12.880 Now we're going to read it with some thought. 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:14.079 Hebrews 12. 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:15.359 Look at verse 5. 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:16.480 Verse 5. 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:20.480 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto what? 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:21.759 Say it, everybody, please. 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:22.319 Children. 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:23.440 Say it again, please. 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:23.920 Children. 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:25.519 We're in the mindset of a children. 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:33.440 My son, despise not the chasting, the correction, the rebuke, the instruction of the Lord, nor faint. 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:34.720 Don't faint. 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:36.160 Don't quit. 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.960 Don't walk away from Christianity. 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:41.759 Don't faint when thou art rebuked of him. 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:47.359 For whom the Lord loveth, he chasteneth, scourgeth. 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:54.319 Every son whom he receives, if ye endure chastening. 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:57.359 God dealeth with you as sons. 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.279 And what son is he whom the Father chasteneth not? 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:03.200 Everybody needs corrected. 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:14.559 But if ye be without chastisement, that correction with a little bit of pain inflicted, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards and not sons. 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:16.240 You're not corrected yet. 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:17.839 You're disingenuine. 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:23.359 The authentication, the process of the old giving way to the new has not happened yet. 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:25.359 Furthermore, verse 9. 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:32.799 We have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence. 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:35.200 You know what he's imploring there? 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:40.480 In this process, you ought to reverence God more because he's taken time with you. 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:41.920 Let me say it again. 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:46.559 We should reverence God more because he's taking time to make us better. 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:50.640 Shall we not much more be in subjection to the Father, Spirit's lives? 00:18:50.799 --> 00:19:04.880 And for they, Mom and Dad, verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure, but he, watch now, for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:09.359 Brethren, the character has to change inside of us. 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:21.599 The one that, the old that follows the wrong stuff must give way to the new character that's been, if you would, born again by the Holy Spirit, that we can walk like Jesus walked. 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:26.160 Now, no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous. 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.759 Nevertheless, after it, what? 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:38.799 That affliction, that tribulation, that trial that came, it yieldeth the peaceable fruits of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.359 Wherefore, lift up the hands which hang down. 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:43.279 Please, let me make this statement to you. 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:49.519 If you know somebody going through a trial right now, that doesn't mean they're being chastened. 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:51.039 I want to say that again. 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.240 You say, I know somebody going through a trial right now. 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:55.200 That's what's going on. 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:56.640 They're being chastened. 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:58.880 You're not their master. 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.079 You're not their father of lights. 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.200 You're not their father of spirits. 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:09.440 We're not God. 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:14.640 What right and jurisdiction do we have to judge one another? 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:22.880 If my wife is going through a little bit, I'm not going to look at her a husband and saying, Well, honey, you're probably just being chastened right now. 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:26.559 I want to eat tonight. 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:34.559 Nor should a wife look on a husband and say, I know what he's doing, I know what God's doing. 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:35.759 Careful. 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:37.440 Careful. 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:44.319 Because most of the time we do not know what God's doing with someone else. 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:52.000 Brethren, my wife and I corrected our children, but we always tried to do it privately. 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:57.200 In respect for the child. 00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:58.799 Tried to. 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:08.480 I want to tell you, when God works on us to make us better, I think often He'll do it in a private, respectful manner. 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:12.240 And it's not for us to judge one another. 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:13.039 I want to say that. 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:14.160 Please listen. 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:16.559 It's not for us to judge one another. 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:23.039 Now, if some guy comes to us and asks us a little bit, we might say, well, there's a couple things that may be happening here. 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.480 I'm not sure exactly what it is, but here's a couple of options. 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.279 Now, what is God doing in changing us? 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:30.400 Boy, stay with me. 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:33.519 You can let go of Hebrews 12, go to Galatians 5. 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:35.200 What is God doing to change us? 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:36.000 Stay with me. 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:37.200 I'll give you an illustration in a moment. 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:37.920 Pick you back up. 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:39.440 Galatians 5. 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:45.200 In Galatians 5, here's what he wants to discipline out of us. 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.240 Here's what he wants to take away from us. 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:51.519 Here's what he wants us to cause to not walk there anymore. 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:52.640 Verse 19. 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:53.920 Galatians 5. 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:55.519 Here's what he's chastening. 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:57.039 Here's what he's rebuking. 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.359 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these. 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:19.119 This is what Wants to chasten adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variants, emulations, wrath, seditions, heresies, envying, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and in case he didn't mention it, such like. 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.839 These are the areas that he wants to change us in. 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:29.599 These are the areas that the Spirit of God is enmity against. 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:31.359 Would you agree with that statement? 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:43.440 These are the areas where God says, I need that corrected in you because I want to replace those characteristics with my characteristics in you. 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:46.240 And here's his characteristics, verse 22. 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:55.599 The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance. 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:57.200 Against such there is no law. 00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:58.400 So here's what he's saying. 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:03.920 I want to discipline you about verses 18, 19, and 20 and 21. 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:06.559 I want those things removed. 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:09.039 19, 20, 21. 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:18.400 And I'll help you to make those less prevalent in your life by bringing you through some chastisement, scourging, it's because I love you. 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:25.279 But the peaceful fruit that comes out of that is you can be partakers of my holiness. 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:34.000 And I'll replace those things that you used to do with love, joy, peace, long-suffering gentleness, the fruit of righteousness. 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:39.359 It's said in 12, chapter 12 of Hebrews, the fruit of holiness. 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:41.200 There's the fruit of the Holy Spirit. 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:42.880 It's the new characteristics. 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:51.680 Now, statement: it is so wonderful when God frees us from something we can't free ourselves from. 00:23:53.279 --> 00:24:04.640 It is so wonderful when He says, You used to be a very angry, contemptuous all the time person. 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:07.599 But I've been working on you. 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:17.119 And through my process of chastisement and discipline and love, did you notice I've replaced a lot of that with temperance? 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:20.559 You're more patient. 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:24.319 You don't get as angry as you used to as quickly. 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:26.400 And that's freedom. 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:34.799 I didn't say you don't get angry, I said you don't get as angry as quickly over things that don't matter anymore. 00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:39.759 As you used to, it would just eat you up with anger. 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:54.000 But I've been working on you, chastening you, scourging you, perfecting you, refining you, sifting you, and now you don't get as angry as quick, and there's more temperance, which is what I want you to be. 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.880 It's the yielded fruit of righteousness. 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:01.039 I did that through the trials I put you through. 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:05.440 I did that, he says, through the tribulations I allowed to come. 00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:08.640 Now, let me show you an illustration, watching your time. 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:10.240 Look at the book of Luke. 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:11.599 Luke 15. 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:12.880 Luke 15. 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:20.559 And we when we turn here, and even though you've read it however many tens of times, look at Luke 15. 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:21.680 Luke 15. 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:22.720 Everybody still all right? 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:23.599 Say amen. 00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:29.440 Look, I understand chastening, scourging, rebuking, but but put in there as children. 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:37.039 He loves me, he loves me, he's correcting me, it's for my profit, it's to make me better, it's so I can be partakers of his holiness. 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:38.319 Now, statement. 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:44.880 There's a good possibility that every one of us in here, in some way, shape, or form, he's teaching us something right now. 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:51.440 Because when you're walking in the spirit and I'm walking in the spirit, he's instructing, he's teaching. 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.160 You may be learning it down at your job in your business. 00:25:54.319 --> 00:26:01.119 As an employer, as a manager, you may be learning more about what God wants you to be through the trials going on in your business. 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.720 It may be in your family, your extended family. 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.599 It may be something going on health-wise. 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:24.480 It could be something going on in the church, it could be something, you name it, in relationships, it could just be an internal struggle going on, having to do with no other people, just something God has you going through, and it's going to yield that peaceful fruit of righteousness when it's done. 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:29.359 But what we need to do is not run away from God and endure it. 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:31.440 Let me say it again. 00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:41.119 If ye endure chastening, if you stay at it, if you keep walking with me, I'll make you what I can make you into. 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:43.839 May I say this to you? 00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.359 Sometimes people, well, I'm done with that. 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:50.240 I'm done with that. 00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:54.240 I'm tired of getting in that Bible and it correcting me all the time. 00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:57.039 I'm tired of going to church. 00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.279 Every time I go in there, I get convicted. 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:01.359 I get convicted by the music. 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.119 Brethren, if he's working on us, let him work on us. 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.000 You say, how do people walk away from God? 00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:20.400 I'm gonna get away from the Bible, I'm gonna get away from church, I'm gonna get away from preaching, I'm gonna get away from Christianity, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna watch movies that don't remind me about that. 00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:22.960 I'm gonna watch feel-good movies. 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:29.200 I'll do that for 20 years. 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:34.559 I'm saved, but I'm just gonna watch things that make me feel happy about myself for 20 years. 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:36.319 That's not Christianity. 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:55.759 God brings joy for the presence, it's grievous, but afterwards it revealeth and it produces that fruit that brings great joy because it's correction that is eternally purposed to make us better down here. 00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:58.079 Everybody still all right? 00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:04.000 Well, I'm just not gonna walk in Christian anymore, I'm not gonna read that book anymore, I don't want to hear preaching anymore. 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:06.640 I just want to feel good about myself all the time. 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.480 That's not growth. 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:14.400 Growth is when somebody comes in and says something, you go, I didn't expect that. 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.599 Man, we have preachers in and I go, I didn't expect that. 00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:21.839 But didn't you say they could preach? 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.640 Yes, but I didn't expect that. 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:25.599 Why? 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.279 It convicted me. 00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:30.160 Come on, you still with me or not? 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.319 We want the kind of preaching led by the Holy Ghost that edifies us. 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:35.279 We do. 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:42.319 We want the Holy Ghost to give the preachers, the teachers, that which we need to edify us, to make us better. 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:43.839 Now watch Luke 15. 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:44.960 Luke 15. 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:52.160