WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:04.000 Well, good morning and welcome to Trinity. 00:00:04.959 --> 00:00:10.000 If I haven't met you before, my name is Mike, and I'm one of the pastors here. 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:15.839 And this morning I'd like to invite you to turn in your Bibles to Matthew chapter 27. 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:19.199 If you don't have a Bible with you, that's perfectly fine. 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:22.320 You can hop up and grab one from the stack in the back. 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:23.839 No harm, no foul. 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:26.000 Or of course you can look it up on your phone. 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:33.200 You can find Matthew 27 on page 783 in the church Bibles. 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:39.280 We're almost there. 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:52.880 We're nearing the end, and then the very best beginning as we head towards the cross and then Easter. 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:58.000 The part of the story we're in right now is heavy, isn't it? 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:04.560 As I've joked a few times with people in the last few weeks, this Lent has felt particularly lenty. 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:09.840 And our text this morning is no different. 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:17.599 We're in the valley of dry bones in the story. 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:20.959 But the day is coming. 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:24.959 Soon we'll get to Easter. 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:26.319 We're getting there. 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:36.400 Now, if you weren't here last week, Jesus has been betrayed by Judas and handed over to the chief priests and the elders. 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:40.400 They've held a sham trial and found Jesus guilty. 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:51.439 And Judas, racked by guilt, met a tragic end, and the chief priests handed Jesus over to the Roman governor Pilate. 00:01:53.439 --> 00:02:00.159 And also, is the sound of a toddler giggling not just the best thing in the entire world? 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:08.879 Gabe, if you could like bottle that up when you get to the good news at the end of the story today and just lighten us all up. 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:15.759 Or regardless, I think it's it's it is we live in this place, don't we? 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:20.960 Like this world that is heavy and dark, right? 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.800 It's full of suffering, and and we we can't, we shouldn't ignore that. 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:27.360 And yet we're also people of the resurrection. 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:32.319 Both of these things held together in tandem, right? 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:33.439 Like both hands. 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:40.400 Like we know we don't ignore suffering, evil, sin, all that, but we're also people of the resurrection. 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:52.240 And so Gabe's giggling is a reminder for us this morning as Jesus is handed over to death, and the heavy part of the story that it's not the end. 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:53.759 So thank you, little buddy. 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:59.680 The sound of children is such a wonder and delight in church. 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:07.439 Last week, Jesus was betrayed by Judas, handed over to the chief priests and the elders. 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:12.479 They've held a sham trial, found Jesus guilty. 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:17.680 Judas, racked by guilt, met his tragic end. 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:22.879 The chief priests handed Jesus over to the Roman governor Pilate. 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.240 We read the first part of the story that I just read again last week. 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:27.759 Jesus stood before the governor. 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.520 The governor asked him, Are you the king of the Jews? 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:34.000 Jesus said, You've said so. 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:38.240 But when he was accused by the chief priests and elders, he gave no answer. 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:43.680 And so Pilate said to him, Do you not hear how many things they testify against you? 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:48.319 Jesus gave him no answer, not even to a single charge. 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.280 So that the governor was greatly amazed. 00:03:52.719 --> 00:04:00.000 And then in verse 15, we come to what I'm calling the great exchange. 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:02.000 But first let's pray. 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:09.520 Gracious God, thank you for this chance to gather, to sing, to pray, to hear from your word. 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:18.720 And I pray now that as my words line up with your words, that they would fall on ears and hearts ready to receive them and respond. 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:26.879 And gracious God, if I say anything from you, or that anything that isn't from you, I pray that those words would quickly be forgotten. 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:31.199 And I pray all these things through Jesus Christ our Lord. 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:32.399 Amen. 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:36.800 If you've got a Bible open, look with me at verse 15. 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:44.639 Now at the feast, the governor was accustomed to release for the crowd any one prisoner whom they wanted. 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:47.199 Let's do a little historical context here. 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:51.439 The feast that Matthew refers to in verse 15 is Passover. 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:59.519 It's a feast remembering God's deliverance from slavery in Egypt and celebrated the night before. 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:04.399 It was and is the most important holy day of the Jewish year. 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:09.759 People from all over Judea would have made the pilgrimage to Jerusalem for the feast. 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:25.120 In fact, scholars estimate that Jerusalem, at the time of Jesus' life, during the Passover, that the population would have increased as many as five to ten times. 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:32.560 By ancient standards, Jerusalem was a decent sized city, maybe 50,000 to 80,000, scholars, historians guess. 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.040 Five to ten times. 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:40.879 We're talking five hundred thousand, perhaps? 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.279 250,000? 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:44.399 800,000? 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:53.839 I mean, suddenly a city or town the size of Burke becoming the size of Metropolitan DC. 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:01.199 In other words, the city was packed for this holiest of holy days. 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.040 Now, you have to remember, Israel's been conquered by the Roman Empire. 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:14.720 The chief priests and elders still had some authority and influence, especially in religious matters, but they existed at the pleasure of Rome. 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:22.720 They were ruled by a Roman governor, who was in turn ruled by a Roman emperor. 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:31.040 And it was the might of the Roman legions that held the locals in check. 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:45.519 Of course, as is true, any time a large crowd gathers, especially in a city occupied by a former by a foreign army, there's a risk of riots and rebellions. 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:58.800 And so Pilate, who's a savvy political operator, has developed a tradition, the scriptures tell us, to ingratiate himself to the crowds and keep the peace. 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:07.920 Let someone held by the Romans in Judea go. 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:10.720 Now look at verse 16. 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.720 They had then a notorious prisoner called Barabbas. 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:17.439 His name is interesting. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:19.759 Bar means son. 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:22.800 Abas, anyone want to guess? 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:23.680 Abba? 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:25.759 Father. 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:28.319 Son of the Father. 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:32.959 And so when they gathered, Pilate said to them, Whom do you want me to release for you? 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:34.000 Barabbas? 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.319 Or Jesus who's called Christ? 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.879 For he knew that it was out of envy that they delivered Jesus up. 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:52.240 Besides, while he was sitting on the judgment seat, his wife sent word to him, Have nothing to do with that righteous man with Jesus, for I have suffered much because of him today in a dream. 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:59.040 Now the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and destroy Jesus. 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:05.680 The governor again said to them, Which of the two do you want me to release for you? 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.319 They said, Barabbas. 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:15.199 Oh, there is so much in here for us, and we'll come back to some of it, and I'll have to leave some of it out. 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.720 But first, what do we know about Barabbas? 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:24.959 Matthew doesn't tell us much about him except that he was a notorious prisoner. 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:27.279 Mark and Luke tell us more. 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:34.320 They describe him as a violent insurrectionist and rebel who'd been found guilty of murder. 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:40.000 John tells us he was a robber and a bandit. 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.919 One thing is certain, he was dangerous. 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:46.399 He was not a good guy. 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.600 He certainly deserved death. 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.559 Now we already know from last week that Pilate was amazed by Jesus. 00:08:54.720 --> 00:09:06.320 Verse 18 tells us that Pilate knew the chief priests and elders handed Jesus over to him, not because he was guilty, but because they were jealous of his popularity and influence. 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:08.480 We see that right there, out of envy. 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:14.639 And then in verse 19, we've got yet another argument for Pilate to release Jesus. 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:18.720 Matthew tells us while he was sitting on the judgment seat, his wife sent word to him. 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:30.639 I've been married now almost 19 years, and I've learned. 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.519 Can I get an amen? 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:45.759 I think that's the first time I've ever asked for an amen during a sermon. 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.960 But it seemed fitting and appropriate. 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.679 The wife knows Jesus is innocent. 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:57.519 It seems even, she's had a dream confirming it. 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:01.279 So she says, Pilate, let the guy go. 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.159 Pilate knows Jesus is innocent. 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:13.200 Like any politician, he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.679 He knows what's right. 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.039 His wife is pressuring him to do what's right. 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:25.200 The crowds, the local leaders want him to do the opposite. 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.200 Pilate is in a bit of a pickle. 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.840 Pilate, a pilot, a pilot. 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:39.840 You should have listened to your wife. 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:52.320 But instead, being the shrewd and cowardly people-pleasing politician he is, Pilot works a plan. 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:57.519 He thinks he's figured out a way to do what he knows is right. 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:02.480 To please his wife, and to please everybody else. 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:06.480 But friends, how often does this actually work in real life? 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:16.399 We come up with our plans, our scheming, conniving plans to try to keep everybody in our lives happy. 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:20.240 This is what he decides to do. 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:24.960 He'll offer to exchange Barabbas for Jesus. 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:30.720 I think that he thinks there's no way they'll pick Jesus. 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.120 And he'll be able to let him go. 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.919 But if they decide that they want Barabbas, and that's on them. 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:40.320 His hands are clean. 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:46.799 It'll be their fault Jesus is killed, not his. 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:05.360 You tell me. 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:08.720 They all said, but let him be crucified. 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:09.759 He said, Why? 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:11.279 What evil has he done? 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:18.960 And they shouted, All the more, let him be crucified. 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:25.039 Can you feel it? 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:28.240 How unfair it is. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.759 How heartbreaking? 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:33.679 How evil? 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.600 I mean, I can right here in the pit of my stomach. 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:39.919 I'm like getting little goosebumps right now. 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:43.120 Even as I read it, it makes me feel sick. 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.320 This, this, this is what sin does. 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:55.279 It corrupts the human heart and leads to death. 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.799 But friends, this is also what love does. 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:07.919 The distance Jesus is willing to go that we might have life. 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.919 As we've said the last few weeks, Jesus isn't a victim here. 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.600 He knows exactly what he's walked into. 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.399 He knows what it's going to take to see the plan through. 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:29.039 He knows how much it will cost him, how much he will suffer, and how deeply unfair it is. 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:32.320 And he does it anyway. 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:35.919 Pilate, he's stuck. 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:38.080 Of his own making. 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.120 Look at verse 16. 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.440 When Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather a riot was beginning. 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.000 The crowd was not going to change its mind. 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.639 So Pilate took water, washed his hands before the crowd. 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.960 This is where we get the saying, I wash my hands of this, or my hands are clean. 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:58.000 Saying, I'm innocent of this man's blood. 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:00.240 See to it yourselves. 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:03.200 Have you seen this before? 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:05.679 Just last week. 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:09.279 Chief priests do the same thing with Judas. 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:11.600 Not my problem. 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.120 This one's on you to deal with. 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:19.360 The people answered, His blood be on us and on our children. 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:21.279 If they if they only knew. 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:30.320 And he released for them Barabbas, and having scourged Jesus, delivered him to be crucified. 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:50.799 Later that afternoon, the same day, Jesus would be crucified between two rebels and bandits in the place that most likely had been prepared for Barabbas. 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.799 When we started out, I said I like to call this episode the Great Exchange. 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.440 Sometimes it's referred to as the Great Reversal. 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.039 Here's what I mean by that. 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.440 Happens at three levels in the story. 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.840 First, we've got the crowd. 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:09.600 We'll actually come back to this next week on Palm Sunday. 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:19.200 But it's worth noting here, the very crowd yelling, crucify him, was praising him just days earlier. 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:20.799 Waving palms. 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.720 Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:33.200 Where we're at in the story now is Friday, just the previous Sunday. 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:39.039 Second, Pilate. 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:41.679 If you have your Bible, open your lap. 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.320 Go back to verse 19 and circle the phrase judgment seat. 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.279 The Greek word here is bema. 00:15:51.039 --> 00:16:05.600 It's the raised dais from which a Roman governor enacted justice on behalf of the emperor, who at the time of Jesus was considered the divine son of God. 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:13.679 Pilate in the Roman world was sitting in the judgment seat of Caesar. 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.320 The judgment seat of the Son of God. 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:19.919 Do you catch the irony? 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:22.240 It's strong. 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:49.200 And before him, standing before the judgment seat, in this instance, being judged by Pilate, is Jesus, the Son of God, of whom Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 5, 10, for we must all appear before the judgment seat, same word in the Greek, of Christ. 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:54.720 Carl Bart's got an entire section in his dogmatics on this. 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:58.799 The judge is judged in our place. 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.679 The great exchange. 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:03.919 The great reversal. 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:12.079 First the crowd, second, uh Pilate, and lastly back to Barabbas. 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.559 Because man, his story is so poignant. 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:20.240 He's been arrested, rightfully so. 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:25.839 He's been tried and found guilty of murder, and rightfully so, he did it. 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:28.960 And he's been condemned to death. 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:34.480 Which, regardless of how you feel about capital punishment, fits the crime. 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:44.720 And then, miracle of miracles, somehow, this rabbi from Nazareth's from Nazareth is brought on the scene. 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.599 And the rabbi is innocent. 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:52.079 He has done literally nothing wrong. 00:17:52.400 --> 00:18:01.039 All he's done is teach, heal, perform miracles, challenge the status quo. 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:06.400 In fact, less than a week earlier, it seemed the crowd wanted to crown him king. 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:10.960 And here he is before Pilate, who seems to know he's innocent. 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:23.839 And it seems somehow that Barabbas is going to be let completely off the hook. 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:25.920 Set free. 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:27.599 Sent in his way. 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:34.799 The cross that had been deservedly waiting for him. 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:42.319 Looks like Jesus is going to be sent to that cross in his place. 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:50.880 I wonder what Barabbas must have felt in that moment. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:19:03.279 How must have felt to be waiting the day of your execution for something you know you deserve. 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:17.599 And then to have your chains unlocked and to walk away into a new life. 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:25.759 We don't actually know what happened to Barabbas after this. 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:27.920 History doesn't tell us. 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:30.240 Nor does the Bible. 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.519 Did he go back to his old life, a life of violence? 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:40.400 Or did he walk into a new future? 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:42.160 A free man. 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:50.720 Choose to live differently, start over into a life of love and faith. 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:55.519 We're left wondering. 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:58.240 Scriptures don't tell us. 00:19:58.400 --> 00:19:59.839 Tradition doesn't tell us. 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.400 History doesn't tell us. 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.839 He'd been set free by the blood of Jesus. 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:14.079 And we have no idea what he did after that. 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:18.559 But what about you? 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:25.680 We hear it each and every week after we confess our sins. 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:27.359 We'll hear it again in just a moment. 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.240 Jesus came to save sinners. 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:32.079 That's me. 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:33.839 And you. 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:36.000 And I don't know about you, probably not you, but I've certainly been angry with my brother. 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:39.759 Sometimes, most of the time, let's be honest, rightfully. 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:43.440 From time to time, not. 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:52.000 I've definitely insulted somebody, treated others with disdain. 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:54.960 I'm guilty. 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:59.839 I could try to squirm my way out of any sort of accountability. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.680 Accountability, blame shift, make excuses. 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:06.559 That's what Pilate does in the story. 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:17.680 But I've found it's generally better to own our stuff, and the Lord knows there's more than enough for which I'm accountable. 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:21.759 I'm guessing that's probably true for you, too. 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:30.400 What Jesus does for Barabbas is illustrative of an even bigger truth. 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.000 The very best news. 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:38.400 And I think this is why this exchange is included in all four Gospels. 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.160 They all have something to say about it. 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:46.720 The very best news for me and for you. 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:57.200 That the exchange made for Barabbas is an offer made for you and me too. 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.759 This is the great exchange. 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.160 That Jesus goes to the cross in our place. 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.079 And we are set free, given new life. 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:26.000 We don't know what Barabbas did with the new life that Jesus gives him, Jesus offered him. 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:42.880 If he went right back on to his old patterns, or if he changed direction, but I wonder, I wonder, what will you do with the new life he's offered you? 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:46.079 Will you shrug? 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:47.519 Carry on. 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:52.000 Return to the old patterns. 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:58.960 Or will you receive the new life offered with open hands? 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:01.359 Change directions. 00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:04.720 Orient your life towards the way of Jesus. 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.160 Walk with others. 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:10.160 I'm not meant to do this alone. 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:23.920 Into this new life that Jesus has won for us by offering himself up in our place in the great exchange. 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:27.759 What will you do with that? 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:30.720 Will you stand and pray with me? 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:49.680 Oh gracious God, I pray that you would form in me, in us, soft hearts. 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:55.119 And open hands. 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:13.119 I pray that you'd give us the courage that we need to turn to you, walk in your ways, receive the forgiveness that you've offered us on the cross, the new life you've given us. 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:17.839 Oh, would you form us to be that sort of people? 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:19.920 I pray. 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:22.960 Through Jesus Christ our Lord. 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:23.920 Amen.