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My name is Dame Russell. My name is Jaden Right, and this is about your story.

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Just a quick disclaimer before we start. Or book an appointment with your GP and talk about a mental health care plan today.

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So back episode 13. 13.

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Great story.

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Back on this fine Tuesday morning.

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It's a bit fresh, actually.

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It's not too bad.

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The last couple of the last week and a half, bro, every every morning when I wake up, I've been all congested. Yeah. I guess because Riley sleeps with a fan on. I'm over it.

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That could be it. But I I remember after last potty last week, then I went home and nothing was in my head, but I was congested. Yeah. And then I was like, oh I'm definitely getting sick. But then, you know, with an immune system like me, bro, how does fall to it?

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You just come good. I'm gonna um 213 on.

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213. Episode 13 on. Nah, I'm gonna try my hardest not to swear for anyone out there that's listening that um doesn't like profanity.

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Nah, it's alright, just be yourself, bud.

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Hey, and then that's what it's all about here. I'm not here to pretend I'm not. This is how I'm like in.

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If they don't like profanity, tell them to go and create their own.

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You can't make me worse, you don't deserve me best.

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It was funny because when I was counting it all up, it's like the first couple of episodes was like 10, and then like the last one was like 50 or something.

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I'm just getting comfortable. Yeah. You think you think it's bad now? Wait till wait till episode 213.

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Yeah.

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I'll be doing it starkers.

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Um weekend bread, what to do?

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Nah, we um I worked away this weekend. We moved placements, so we're up in Byron in the hinterland, eh? That's mad. Bro, like, I don't know. Have you been to Byron before?

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Only a little bit. Um, I'm gonna out myself here, but in my last job, I travelled to Ballinar, and I was like, yeah, I'm just gonna quickly duck to Byron and have a sus. Yeah. It's like because bro, what I'd do, so I went to Ballinar, I went to Beeger, I went to Sydney, um, all parts of Sydney, Dubbo, Armandale, like all these different places. Um, Golburn, and I'd have to stay like a night, um, and it would normally be like take a day to travel there, get there in the Arbo, stay a night, do what I had to do, then come home. Um, but like obviously in their head it was like leave at 8 a.m. work time, travel through work hours, um, get there and then whatever. But like, bruh, if I was only there for one night, what I'd do is I'd leave at like five and then get there at like one, and then I'd just go and explore for that bit. Or like if it was a two-night stay, in the second day after my work time was finished, um, at four, then I'd just go and just see stuff. So yeah, I went through a little drive to Byron, just drove through the town. It it's wild.

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Yeah, it's a wild little joint, but we're like up in the like we're about ten minutes from Borin, but up in the up in the hills, but it's a fucking beautiful view. Like in the hinterland, and you're sort of looking over like all the all the fields, but then the beach and stuff as well. It's a mad spot. So cruised up there as a mad little weekend and yeah, come back here and yeah, now I'm here.

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Now I'm here.

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Now I'm here.

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We um we got knocked down on the weekend. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah. Bit sad. Done. Done. The league get what they want. Nah Nah. It's been a rough year for for 'em because like keeps injuries, I yeah, bruh, and because of the bylaws for Hawks and for Maitland, it's been very hard um not being able to sign players and and stuff. So um it is what it is. I think that for me personally, it's a bit of a blessing because obviously I started uni yesterday, so um it's good not to have that worry, but I just feel bad for the girls, bro, because like they try so hard and um because they're in it 24-7, they don't understand the impact they're having off the field. And I try to always tell them as much as I can, like, because I've seen it, because I coached those junior teams at Morpeth, and I know how much them girls look at that mainly because girls side and and they like look up to them and um you know they want to be them essentially. Um and I guess after winning a couple of premierships in a row, and when that moment comes to an end, it's kind of like you kind of just sit in that and it was it was a weird feeling because it was like I don't know, bruh. It's just it was just kind of like they kind of knew um that like it wasn't gonna happen or it didn't happen. Um but I we had like a mad little tight huddle at the end, just people talking and I just said to them, like, it's not always about trophies, and I feel like what they've achieved and the success it's created might not be shown for another five years when there's all these 14-year-old girls coming through that want to play for Maitland because of them. So yeah.

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No, no, I guess that's the um that's the environment that they've created there at Maitland. Like, I remember as a young fella, we'd go and when that was when Maitland were going good too, and they'll win in comps. And you're like, Oh, I want to go play for Maitland when you're older, and that they sort of lost that for a bit. Yeah, but now with their um the pathways and um what they've created there, all those young fellas and and young girls are like, oh, that's where they want to be. Yeah, and that's what it's about, eh?

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Yeah, and then um when watching my nephew play on the Sad D. He'd been carving up lately too, bruh.

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Um wouldn't get that from his uncle.

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Nah, well um Guinness G replied back to my story and was like, um, what'd you say he was like better than his uncle? I was like, he's under eights and he scored more trials than I did in my whole career, nah. But um it's just a confidence thing, bruh. Like I think when you when you kind of like if you're a if you're a coach of a junior team and I mean like sixes, sevens, eights, nines, bruh, just fill their head with shit. Tell them what you gotta tell them. Hey like I tell him all the time, like I always You remind me of Tino. I try and get there before they start so I can pull him as hard and look at that team. And look at them, I'm like, you run over everybody like um Gene right up, bruh, and he's just um it's all about how he starts. Like if he starts well, then um yeah, he'll be he'll be on. Um so yeah, just running over people is good. Shout out Dungog Warriors, shout out the gog bruh.

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Hey, how was uni first day?

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Oh, bruh, it's so good.

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Like it's I loved it, yeah. It's was it overwhelming in any sense?

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Only probably like before it, because I'm like, where's the classroom? It's like it's the forum built, and we're just meeting out the front, and I'm like, alright, well, I was like, I don't want to get there really early, yeah. And I'm just like out the front with these people, and they're like, hey, hey, like so. Where'd you go to school? Yeah, so I was like, I don't know. Yeah, I was like, I want to get there, but I do want to get there early, so I know where it is, but then I just sit in my car or something. Yeah. So I think I got there like 22 and then got out. Um, and then like we used the map on the app to try and walk to the building. Cause like, you gotta know what car park it is, and some of the car parks are only two hours, whereas this class is a three-hour class. So thankfully there's a car park right behind it that's like nine-hour park.

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Yeah, right.

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Um so I got there, and then bro, I'm walking and I'm following the map, and the map's taking me down this like lane where nothing is, and wants me to go back around the side of this building where like nothing is, and I'm like, nah, this can't be right. So I turned around, went back, and then could see it there was like it like it was a thing about forum on the thing, and I'm like, this must be it, there's a couple people out front. Um, I was like, you could kind of tell like they're in-joggers and that. So I just chilled there, like minding my own business. Teacher came out, took us into the room, and then we all had to line up along the sideline bit where we like just put our bags and that down. And we're just there not to speak in age country because you just don't know each other. Like, nah. And then um it's cringe, but it was alright. We did this like the first 20 minutes just icebreaker games.

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Yeah.

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Like I like them. Um so she w she came along and spoke to each one of us as much as she could, like at the start. And yeah, she goes to me, um, where are you from, bud? I was like, Maitland. So but I was born in Dungalog. I was like raised in Dungog. And she was like, um I was like, Yeah, I I'm not like freshly out of school. Like I'm I did youth work for ages and then realised I didn't really want to be that person. She's like, yeah, no, that's really good, like yada yada yada. And then um and then this other guy next to me was like, I was like, is this your first day? He's like, Yeah, I was like, Yeah, man. And then we started to do these icebreaker games, and it was like a warm-up, so you have to obviously warm up. It's all prank, like the whole three hours. So um there's a partner opposite you, you gotta run up, clap hands, say your name, go back, and then um you obviously swap around like you've got three in a group or whatever, and then you've got to run up, clap hands and say their name. So like you gotta try and remember it. And brah, so we did the warm-up, and then we're talking about like the course and the outline. And um I was just talking to a couple of the boys around me and stuff, and one guy was there from Canberra. Um true and he's like staying there, he sort of said like his parents, like you know, such like we both moved away from home to go to uni, it was such a good experience. Like, so he's there, and then I heard this other lad say, um, I reckon I'm the oldest he. I turned around, I'm like, How old are you, Brian? And he's like, 27. I was like, Yeah, same. He's like, Oh, mad. He's like, Are you 99 or 98? I was like, 99. He's like, I'm 98. I was like, Yeah, true. And um we were just young and he's like, he's like, Yeah, bruh, like did you find you got accepted in Heats Easy? Cause like you're a bit older. I was like, Well, I did a diploma, but yeah, like they said to me, He was like, Yeah, well, I just did a cert three in full fitness, like I'm a gym instructor at a gym, and I was just kind of like, I reckon I can do more than this. So I was like, Yeah, that's right. Where's he from? Like Reddit? True. Yeah, it's Matter 2. It was a good fella. Um I know one of the boys from Pickers there, so true. Yeah, you're right then. Right boy. But um, so we did netball yesterday. Uh gun. Any good. But it was funny. We did network. Oh, yeah, netball's fun, bro. We never did netball in school. Um, but we did like because every time, so we do netball this week and next week, and you learn like warm-up drills that you can do for it, um, little modified games that you can play for it, um, like and things like that. There was this one moment, bruh, where we were playing like um offside touch, but netball basically. Um, and like I've gone down the sideline, bruh, and I'm like, calling for the ball. He's thrown me the ball, but it's like up high and behind me. So I've jumped up, like I've jumped up and caught it, and before I landed back on the ground, I've flicked it behind my back over there and landed straight into our players' hands. And brah, this guy standing there is looking at me, he's like, What the fuck? I was like, Yeah, cuz like what's it?

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You know me.

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Um, and then we just um did like some shooting games and then played a bit of a game at the end. But there's one fella in my class where um this is his first week in Australia, bro. Really? From where? Germany, yeah. Right. Yeah, so he was marking me in the game. Bro, that'd be wild. He's like, I've never like he's never seen that ball in his life because I don't have it over there. And he's marking me, I'm like, bud, this is what you gotta do. Every time, every time my team's got the ball, you run down that end of the field.

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I'm on this end of the field. Nah, true, that'd be wild going from a different country in the first week straight into uni.

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I said to him at the end, I was like, How you going with it all? And he was like, Yeah, good, and like we'll just find our way out. Does he have good English? Um, it's semi-good, yeah, it's pretty decent. And I was like, I was like, bruh, like I I give credit to you because it's hard enough just coming to uni as it is, let alone like in a foreign country where you don't know anything. Like that's so good. And I don't know if he really understood. He's like, Oh yeah, and then he's like, Okay, see ya bro. I was like, mad.

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Yeah, didn't even work out what you were saying. Yeah, no, that's mad, but it's good. It's good fun, good fun, and I feel like I don't know, that's what I was just thinking. Maybe because it is like later in the year, like obviously if it was like at the start of the year, you'd get um the f the young people that are fresh left school, but maybe because it's like a halfway through the year a bit or a bit later, like you have that break in sort of group, so it's a bit older as well.

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Yeah, true, but there's still there's heaps of people in my class that started at the start of the year. Oh, right uh. And then just did other courses. Yeah, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, so essentially this group will the main group will graduate like 2030, where I was I'll be 2030 mid-year sort of thing. 20 to just say in 2030 wigs me, yeah. But you can do um you can do like summer classes and stuff, so I'm gonna put it. Summer classes.

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Oh, you'll be up in Bar on the Hill. Ever been there? No, I haven't. It's actually it's a weird little venue there, yeah.

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Yeah. Someone's going there, someone big.

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Yeah, one four.

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What are they what what are they doing there?

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It's got it's a mad stage and shit, bro. It's like an outdoor event uh venue. That's wild, eh? Shout out one four.

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Hey, got some shivers.

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But yeah, it was it was hectic. So what days you do? Monday, what? Thursday?

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Uh no, Tuesday, so the Savo.

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Oh.

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Um, and then Friday. But obviously Tuesday and Friday is like gonna be in-class stuff.

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Yeah.

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Like it's different courses, so it's about like there you they're my core teaching subjects, which is like everyone everyone that has to do these subjects if they want to do primary and high. Yeah, yeah. Because you learn about curriculum, true pedagogies, like teaching, yeah, controlling a classroom. Whereas like the Monday ones essentially just for PE. Yeah. That was one person's practice stuff pretty much.

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True. Yeah, very exciting, bro. It's good. It's good. It's and try like You know what I mean? You s sort of step out of that comfort zone a little bit, yeah. Bit of growth and um because it's so easy just to get comfortable in roles. Yeah. Um, like we spoke about, like you could sit in roles that we've we're there's roles that we could just sit in for the rest of our life and just sit there comfortably if we wanted to, yeah, um, and probably get paid well and you just live comfortable life, but yeah, uh, I just get too stale and I want to be learning new shit and trying other different things. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. That's gone. It's gone. I just want to touch on something that I'm pretty off at the sh the sharks right now.

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Is this your yarn?

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No, it's not, but I just wanted to just touch on it that what do I know? I was just I I knew right. Well, this is what happens all the time. We fly into the radar, and then the media starts hyping us up, and then we just go shit. But like we've we had I think that game from who do we verse? I think it was the Titans, um, and we lost Iroh, Ramian, Talekai, um, AFB.

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Yeah.

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Um and then AFB. He I think um it was a shoulder to the head and he got two weeks. So he should be back not next week, the week after. Um but he's been since the origin bar, he's been in hectic form.

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Yeah.

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Um, and then I think we were going so well because we had that good um rotation off the bench. Like you bring on Talakai and and AFB will start on the bench, so that just gets all mixed up, and then obviously you lose Trindle last week. Ramion, Ramion's gone. You bring in Harodi that probably doesn't know how to pass. But it just yeah, it just changed the whole dynamic, you know what I mean? And that core group.

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They should blood that young guy that's highly touted. Gabriel.

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Yeah, I know.

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I don't know why we don't, but he's gonna be there next year anyway.

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Exactly. But yeah, I'm pretty off it. Um yeah, I think without Trindle we can't go any further. But then you look at the I guess you look at the um the game against the Roosters and Penrith and how far ahead they are probably then.

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He'll be right, but he'll come back.

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Yeah, they reckon he'll come back. They reckon he'll be back, but because he's gonna he's not gonna do like get surgery, but I feel like if he fucks it again, he's gone.

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Taylor made it that this year. Yeah, it twice.

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And I feel like as a 5'8 bra, and you know he's shot shoulders fuck, you'd just be targeting him all day. If you've got big back rolls or centers like wise. That's his job, bro. Yeah, but yeah, I just wanted to touch on that because I was just sort of being a bit upset.

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Well, dogs, we can't even catch the ball for kickoff. Hey, made me wild, bruh. Thankfully, the cowboys lost, so it kind of nullifies that.

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Me and Nev were sitting up there watching it, and I was like, fuck, I'm gonna message him, man. Just do him.

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Yeah, backfired on your teeth. I know. Nev messaged me and was like, bruh, you're blowing up here.

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He's like, You grew up because the young fellow that we're working with, he goes for shark too. Yeah. He doesn't really understand the rules, but true. Um, he's blown up and I gave him one of my old sharks' jerseys, so he's been showing that. Um, but yeah, other than that, that's I've just been cruising, cruising. Why do you want me to do my Yeah. Nah, um probably and it was probably because I was a bit sick, but last week, but for the last two weeks, I've just had I don't know, there's been so much going on, bro, and I've just I don't know, I'm always on my phone and doing shit, you know what I mean? And it's just you sort of rope down. Um you feel like I don't know, you just I just felt so overwhelmed for like two weeks. And then last week, I think it was the Wednesday Av, I was like, fuck, I'm gonna go for a bit of a walk, like a bit of a bushwalk, just to take note like no phone at all, nothing, just out there. Um and I went to the gym first and I was like, it started pissing down my and then it stopped. And I'm like, no, I'll go for a walk. And I went um down behind Ashtonfield Oval Oval there. Um it's a place that we used to train as as young fellas, footy, and I'd be up there from Monday to Thursday, bruh, because dad coached and I played. Um and so I went up there and I'd just seen all the other teams, the young fellas running around and stuff, and I was just thinking, What team's that? Fuck East Maitland? They train there. That's where their ground is, yeah. Ashtonfield.

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True.

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Shamrock.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Oh, Shamrock, yeah. Next to the Bowling Club. Nah. That's not Shamrock.

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No, that's King Edward, that's where they all age in that train.

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True.

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Shamrock, yeah. Behind Green Hills there. And I just sat up there and I was just thinking, fuck, this time 15 years ago, bro, I was like, this was us, and it's just how quick time goes. Um, so I just sat with that for ages. I was just sitting there. I probably would have looked like a bit of a freak because I was sitting up on the hill, just sitting there, just like just zoned out. Um, but I did that and then I was like sitting up there for a bit, and I'm like, no, I want to go for like a bit more of an explore. Because as a young fella, like we had like all cubby asses and stuff that we'd make in that down there, and I was like, fuck, we'll just go for a bit of a walk. But I went a bit further into the bush and obviously with time with time pass and new houses get built and everything gets knocked down. But I was walking in this bush and I got back in my car and drove to another part, and I was like, uh nah, like I'll just go home. And then like thinking about when I think about pop, like when I say a cookabra, I think about pop all the time. And I was driving away and I heard a cookabra call out, and I'm like, nah, fuck it, I'm gonna go back in there. So I parked my car, um, went through the bush, and I often randomly say, like, um, if I'm if I'm not sure of something to do, or like I'm feeling overwhelmed, or um, I'm just not sure which path to take, I'll often say, like, just give us a sign, pop, like something like that in my head. And as I was walking through the bush, another cooker barra called out, and I'm like, fuck. Like at like probably about five minutes after, and I was just sitting with it, and you couldn't hear anything else but like birds and just the wind and stuff like that, and it was so hectic. Um, and as I was walking back to my car, um, I was parked right next to a bit of grass, and brah, there was a feather that was just poking out in the grass right next to my car, just like sitting out there, and I'm like, that's a freaky bit of like that's a freaky feather. Like it didn't look like a normal bird. True. Brah looked it up on Google, Cookabara cookabara feather. That's just sitting there, and it just like, I don't know, you just got that overwhelming sense of fucking like I was like, oh, that is so sick. And then like weirdly, like mum rang me straight away, like straight after, and I explained her, and she goes, That's a sign. But um, I just want to share with because it stuff like that often happens, especially like not only just in our culture, but um just little signs like that. And I think weirdly, that's what I that's what I needed in that time and I didn't know that. Yeah, um, like I could have happily just went home and just kicked back and probably just been in my head even more. But just getting out there and um having that bit of sign from Pop sort of I don't know, just helped me just navigate a a bit of a struggle that I was going through.

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When before I lost people, I never believed in that stuff. I'm like, yeah, whatever. And then when um my best mate passed there, he passed away on the 13th. And um that number just followed me for ages after it. Like it was like nearly every like the 13th of every month I'd wake up through the night for sure. Like I would always like see 130 or like you know, 213, or just different iterations of it, and then like um like I brought I even remember driving to work one day and I think it might have been close to the one year anniversary, and I seen like because his name was Andy, I seen Ando 13 numberfates, and I'm like, this is wild. Like and then I remember um I remember when my nan got sick, we had to go to Tamworth to visit her, and my mum said To us, like you know, tomorrow they're probably gonna put a morphine driver, you know, and like you're not she's gonna be barely like she's barely responsible, like responsive now.

SPEAKER_03 22:10

Yeah.

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Um you need to decide whether you wanna if this is gonna be your last time and you're satisfied or not. And then I told that story, and then um like me and my sister, my sister was like, What are you gonna do? And I was like, Oh, I'm just gonna wait and see and make my decision when I see her. And um I was like, Yeah, right. Oh, and then I walked in, bro, and you know how you gotta go to the desk and they tell you where she is, like, yeah, she's just down there in bed 13. I was like, Yeah, right, that's worth this. I was like, I know this is it. So did that, and then um I was coming back from there, um, and I messaged G and I said, Bruh, do you want to go for dinner? And he was like, Yeah, sweet. So we walk in there to get dinner at the HR, I think, and um I was like, I'll order and um I'll get water and stuff, and you get the table, come back, table number 30. I was like, Bruh, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

Yeah, but you couldn't write this. Yeah, it's wild. And and it's a sense of a feeling that you can't really explain to anyone, like it's just like everything starts making sense to you, or it's just like little things like that.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

And and I've had like there's a couple of us, couple of the boys, and even like girls or whatever, like a couple of the close circle that know about it, yeah, and they'll send me stuff all the time where 13 just come and like it's hectic, bruh.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

It's wild. But yeah, no, it's just I don't know, it's just with certain things, it's just been very overwhelming, but like just even that little bit of bushwalk, brah, just did me so well. Um and I think I'll go away next week, but I think after that being in the bush is mad. Yeah, I'm gonna go for a I can we I can we go just go away some like one weekend, bro, just take a swag. That'll be good. Um have a fire and shit. Obviously, and it will be starting to warm up a bit, so it won't be as cold. Um I can just do that, bruh. I'll be mad.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Obviously, well last Thursday I did the cultural burn.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

Yeah, we can start.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Nah, but that was hectic, bruh. Like I've never done it before. Um rocked up in just um to listen to the way they spoke about like what protocols we're gonna put in place. Like there's probably a lot of people out there that think, oh, they just jump with a bushel of lighter and burn it out. But uh they do full safety plans and um fire burn plans and stuff. And um the guy running there, he was saying, like, we want to make sure we do a great job because we don't like they're looking for any reason to take it off as soon as so um and they did a lot of prep. So people don't understand that with a cultural burn that there's a prep that goes into it. So um you go in there and any tree that has like heaps of that like barky stuff on it, um, you have to scrape around it on the ground so that there's nothing around it. Yeah, um, and then obviously put the kind of transverse or the converse lines in or whatever on the sides where it doesn't burn past it. Um but I was working with this lad bra and he was so good. Um like because they were like, if you haven't done a burn before or you're very uh inexperienced, like I want you to have a go at everything today, like see how it is. Um this is not about you just watching, it's about the practitioners stepping back and you having a crack. So I had a big like 16 litre water pack on. Um and it's obviously got like that little handle where you just pump it and it's like a water pistol. Um and my role in having that on was like um if you see any tree on fire, bang, put it out as you go, like if any kind of stump, even um or if the fire spreads, that'll be you obviously as well. Um so bruh, and then I was he's like this practitioner guy, name's Kyle, I think. He was like, bruh, you just come with me. I was like, yeah, mate. So we're walking around the side and then we're just like he's like, yeah, you put a spot in there. I was like, what light it up? He's like, yeah, like bang, like light it up, and then just like lit down the whole edge, went in behind it, and then um you always do it from the steepest point down because fire runs uphill quicker. So you want to avoid that. Yeah, right. Yeah, so and then obviously it's best to do it like against the wind. Yeah. So the wind's blown back towards it. And then he said there's two things that you need to remember. Um first one is like look up to live, so look up and look at like if you can see a branch above you that's on fire, get out of there. Like they're called widow makers, they'll kill you. Um, and the other one is if you ever get stuck in fire, it doesn't matter if it's a cultural burn or not, any kind of fire, the you're the safest, like it's like a pyramid, you got like fuel, oxygen, fire. Um, the safest thing that you can do to get away from there is back through the black. What's already been burnt. Yeah, true. A lot of people just try and run from it, bruh, just hump straight through it. Yeah, right. Go through what's already been burnt.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

True. Yeah. Yeah. When I was up in the Northern Territory living up there, because um obviously all those remote communities they have all their own ranges and then like the councils and stuff like that. Um they employ Aboriginal rangers and stuff like that. So you'd be driving on the on the side of the road and they'll just like burn-offs would just be happening for days, and there'll be no one even there. Like they've just like it's just so well calculated that um they are obviously only burn in certain seasons and certain winds and stuff like that. So I went, I went out with a ranger up there once and it was hectic. Yeah, it's like obviously it's complete different train, like it's not as dense as like down here. Um, but it was just so sick, like that was just like normalized for them. And I remember the first time I drove out, I'm like, fuck, there's a fight, like she's on fire on the side of the road. They're like, Yeah, that's just they're just burning that off. Yeah, it's wild. But yeah, it's something that I I want to do it down here, like down here these ways, because it wasn't like I said, it was just like all the spin effects and stuff on the side of the road. That's all it was. But I want to do it down here. So next time, yeah, we might even start our own. We got there's heaps of stuff that needs doing so out at Gill O. You see any fires happening around Maitland? See him.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

No, not me, bud.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Um but yeah, no, I'm mad. No, that would have been sick.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Yeah. I got a bit of a yarn for you. So I get like you know how I get plant fasciitis. Sometimes I just get random soreness everywhere. And um my like my partner's mum said to me a couple months back, you need to get this magnesium oil. Like it's heaps, it's good for you. And I was like, mmm, yeah, whatever. But then I was like, you know what, I'll try it. Like, because again, I'm always sceptical on that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 28:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Um, bruh, I put it on and it was like spin out, like it works so well. Like I I remember coming home from footy. Um, normally I'd lay on the lounge, and then when I get up, I'm like stiff as. Put it on, laid on the lounge, got up, and I was like, wait, like, why aren't I feeling it? So, anyways, I packed it away and I hadn't used it for a little bit, and then um the other, I think last week I was like, um, after the burn bar, I was getting really sore behind my leg, and I think it's just from walking so far around and also wearing boots like used to it and stuff. So I was like, oh, I'll give that magnesium oil a crack. So I could see it just sitting on the um where our little TV is in our room, like in the bedroom. I was like, yeah, mad. So I sprayed it on the back of my leg and rubbed it in. I was like, went to sleep, woke up, and I was like, oh no, it hasn't worked like it's like I'm st I'm sore than I was yesterday. Anyways, I think the next night did the same thing. Um I was like and it was like real sticky, and I went to sleep, I woke up and still didn't work, and I was like, fuck this, like it's meant to be working. Um so I just left it and then um I think I did it again another another time and it didn't work, and then or it's not that it didn't work, I think in my head I was like, Yeah, maybe that's working, but I was like, I feel like it was a bit more effective than that. Didn't worry about it. The other night, bruh, well um I grabbed the bottle and I was about to spray it on me and Ralph's like, what are you doing? I was like, putting this magnesium oil on. She goes, That's room spray. I was like, and she's like, that's not the magnesium oil. I was like, bruh. He's been putting air fresher on himself. I've been rubbing room perfume on myself, wondering why it's not working and so sticky. But um, yeah, found it last night and did it what? It's gone the magnesium. Yeah, gun. It's so good.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

I'll have to test it out.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

I will send you, I'll send you which one.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Because I was taking like magnesium tablets. Brah on a like true, yeah. What sort of room spray was it? Like what's totally you went in a bed thinking, fuck, what's it all? Hey, you didn't stick them together in the back of your knee.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

But yeah, that's that's a funny yarn.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

That's a funny yarn, but so I always read the delay, but on the back of that as well, I was telling Nev this the other day because we were speaking about um we started yarning about Alzheimer's because like that's my pop had Alzheimer's and his Ned had it as well. And we're talking about like when my pop um that was sort of sort of getting the better of him. Um at his for Christmas one time, and he's like, No, I'm cooking the Barbie, I'm cooking the Barbie. And there was only me sitting there, and I think it was dad as well, but he was just I'd know what he was doing. I'm like, fuck fuck him. He's got the flames and shit going on there. I'm like, what are you doing? It look around, they're follow spraying fly spray all over the sausages. I'm like, what are you doing? He goes, just spraying the canola spray on there. I said, but that's fly spray. But I yeah, I was we didn't eat them so he's like you're gonna eat these sausages? I said, nah, but give it the old boy. So always look at the labels, guys. That's all we're that's that's what we're fucking explaining here, you know. You want to do this would you rather? Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. Where are we? I'm gonna read it out. I'll let you go first this time because I'm actually a bit stumped. Okay. What do you want me to go first? I'll go. So obviously last week we started with a would you rather as well. Um just to get get thinking, and Sam sent me one last night. When I was asleep, may I may I add, so I'm just but um would you rather be able to erase your biggest regret or relive your happiest memory whenever you wanted? It's rocked me. It's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

I I personally would probably pick to erase my biggest regret, and I wouldn't recommend that for most people because I think you should live a life where you just don't regret stuff and you're confident in you know doing whatever. But I'm I'm confident in like why would I relive my happiest memory when I can create happier ones? And I think for me as well, my biggest regret probably lies around you know, my best friend passing away and maybe some of the decisions that I could have made prior to that, which I know like I don't beat myself up about that anymore. Um but it's definitely something I'd love to have another crack at. Um and I think that that's probably why I'll choose that because I feel like if I knew what I knew back then that I know now, yeah, who knows, bruh. Yeah. And and for me, the impact and the pain of that happening um outweighs any of my happiest memories. So I think that's why I'd pick it. But what do you reckon?

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Yeah, no, I was on the I I was tossed up because if you I feel like if you're able to relive your happiest memory, um, sort of on the back of what you're saying, you're sort of just gonna be doing that all the time. Like, and you're not gonna be living present. You're like if you're if something's going on in your life, you're like, I'll just go back to when you know what I mean. So it's just sort of like it brings you that band-aid of happiness, yeah. Where um I feel like I feel like if you like that, if you yeah, if you don't have that, um you're gonna have to find happiness, you know what I mean, in anything that you do, and I feel like that's what I've been trying to um work hard on is like no matter what shit situation, I'm trying to find peace and happiness in that, whether it's a decision or a negative thing happening in life. Um but in saying that like erasure ubicate grant, I'm I'm trying to like like I understand there there's been things that I I definitely should have done, but I feel like everything happens for a bit of a reason, and if I hadn't done that or made that decision, I probably wouldn't be here where I am today as well. I feel like everything that happens negatively and I'm not saying I'm not pushing what you you're saying mine because I've never had that something like that happen to me. Um but I feel like like I've made a lot of mistakes and I put my hand up, I still make them all the time. But I feel like if I hadn't made any, like I hadn't done anything to regret, I probably wouldn't be where I am to now.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Um so I didn't really give you an answer which I'd rather, but I'd put neither of them.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

That's right, yeah. You can be that. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of old followers that are living their happiest moments over again, you know, back in my day, bro. I used to run 60 meters all three tries. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Or your old uncle saying, bro, I would have been playing on it all if I didn't fuck my knee.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Yeah. Um, that's that's good. We can because we don't you don't have to pick one.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

Yeah. I just feel like Yeah, being able to relive your happiest memory, you could just sit in that the whole time and then you just bring that fake ha ha bit of dopamine and happiness, yeah. Where you should be at creating your own story. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 35:34

Yeah, mate. Maybe that's um maybe that can be the title for the podcast. Something like Don't be stuck in the past when the future is brighter.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

Anyway, have a good work, seas later. Um, I like them would you rathers actually?

SPEAKER_00 35:53

It's cool, it gets you thinking, eh.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

Gets you thinking, but I didn't want to um I said it there this morning um when you message when when I messaged when you messaged me and I'm like, I'm not gonna think about that too much. Yeah. Because I would have just overthought it.

unknown 36:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

So yeah, if you're out there find your own happiness. Try and find it in the little things as well. Because we can also always get stuck in um the I feel like it's so much easier to find negatives in situations, but if we can find positives and um in the most littless things, um it makes those bigger occasions when something does big happen that you sort of appreciate it more as well.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Do you got a you do you got a little thing that you're grateful for? Something really small?

SPEAKER_02 36:35

Something that I'm grateful for? Something really just like different Um Sport. Yeah, on the sport aisle. Um you go first.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

This is gonna sound dumb, but I'm I'm gonna go just like Chewy gum. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

Like just How often do you bruh every day?

SPEAKER_00 37:05

Like, 'cause bruh, I like obviously someone who's trying to eat less pump chewy, like um going into a meeting pump chewy, going to uni pump chewy.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

I'm the same.

SPEAKER_00 37:18

Like and sometimes I've got to really make the decision on oh, should I have chewy? No, I'm probably gonna get a coffee, so I won't. Like I'm always chewy. Well, I've I have to just help regulate my like scattered.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

I would tell you, because but I'm I'm chewy all the time as well. Like I'll I feel like I'm getting around star because if I don't have a packet of chewy, and I usually have one in my car and then one on me. Yeah. Um and it was when I first like I I was probably with youth justice for probably like three or four months, and I they offered me like a higher temp position as an Aboriginal practice officer. And I sat in a teams meeting with like all the director, like directors and like assistant managers and shit, but I couldn't see myself. And they were like come to me speaking, and because I couldn't see myself, like I was like over the mirror, over the camera, sorry, but I was chewing chewy and I was like talking like this, like my chewy was like and then like the manager met like my mess manager messaged me and he goes, put your chewy away, brother. Like that's all you can see, chewing it. So I've got to be sometimes in meetings and stuff like that, I've got to be like, oh, just hide the chewy a bit. But I'm the same, especially like I've been driving all the way from Ballinar. Yeah, that's the only thing. I'm like, right oh I've been doing two at once even.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

Right, Riley does two at once. Well that's a that's why I started doing it.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

She's like, I can have a piece, she goes, no, two. Yeah, it's eight bucks a packet, this dog.

SPEAKER_00 38:38

Yeah, maybe I should start trying two.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

Well, it's actually good. And then I'll just spit it out when it's just lost a bit of taste and you remember that remember back in the day five gum was the thing? Oh bruh, five gum was wild. Did you ever roll the you you rolled the um wrapper up and you'd put it in your mouth and blow it out?

SPEAKER_00 38:55

No.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Bruh, you'd wrap it around your finger, twist it up.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Um old um five gum and juicy fruit.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

Yeah, juicy fruit.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

PK.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Hubba Bubba.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

Hubba Bubba or the rolls hectic. Yeah. That was mad. Have you ever done a full roll?

SPEAKER_02 39:11

I would have, yeah. I think one time like I got Marley wouldn't give me any of hers, and I just opened it up and just bit the whole thing. Yeah, sucked the whole roll.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Um a similar story. We um every Easter we used to just get the footies with the um the footy eggs. Yeah. But I remember one day I got my sister's egg, lined it up like I was on a tee, and just punted it. Co-punted it. They had chocolate everywhere, um got in so much trouble. Well, I didn't. She had mine, and I'd pick up the chocolate from ever everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 39:42

Speaking about footy, actually, I had a dream last night, right? And I always have them these dreams that I'm playing footy, but I don't I can't pass. Like I don't I just seriously don't, or I knock the ball on, like I'm getting myself psyched up. Pretty much. And and then last night while I was playing at Ashtonfield Oval in under twelve, like I was like I was older, but I was versing under 12s. And then like I one young fella said to me, he's like, um He's like, He goes, You think you're so tough versing 12-year-olds. Anyway, I was lining up to win the game off this Poxy T. You know when something's happened in a dream but it just won't happen. Yeah. Anyway, I line this kick up off this poxy tee, missed it. And I was like, well, I must have woke up sweating, I think.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:21

Shout out, yeah. Oh, I just want to play footy, bruh. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Sign him up.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

Mate, create your story, I might make a comeback, meeting Sammy Russell next year.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

I reckon we go and do that time zone thing.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

Yeah. Or actually, I got um a free $20 voucher from Time Zone. Did you? Yeah. I reckon we do it.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Um from? I know. Jaden your $20 time zone voucher is here. Find out to redeem.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

From sponsor or what? Shout out time zone. Yeah, where's my sponsor?

SPEAKER_02 40:53

No, I reckon we do it.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

I reckon the because I get back from um New Zealand on the it'd be the When do you leave again? Next Wednesday. Yeah. Oh well we stay in Sydney t Tuesday night, so um we could pump the potty next Tuesday. Yeah, so um see you next Tuesday. Yeah, see you next Tuesday. I reckon I only swore twice this advantage.

SPEAKER_00 41:15

Shout out.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

Yeah, so shout out to everyone that didn't think I could do it. It's gonna all get fucked.

SPEAKER_00 41:22

Is that us or what?

SPEAKER_02 41:23

That's us. Um have a good weekend. Have a good weekend, rip in, love is all, and remember create your own story.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

That's it.