Award-Winning Journalist Exposes the Truth About Project 2030 | Alex Newman Ep. 003

In this episode of The Defending Freedom Show, Colby Wiltse sits down with award-winning journalist and author Alex Newman to discuss the global agenda behind the UN, WHO, World Economic Forum, Agenda 2030, transhumanism, public education, and the spiritual battle shaping our world.
Alex breaks down what he has seen firsthand inside global institutions, why he believes these agendas are not just political but spiritual, and what Christians can do to protect their families, disciple their children, and stand firm in their communities.

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For years, he's traveled the world recovering what many refuse to talk about. From the halls of the United Nations to the World Economic Forum, Alex Newman has spent decades investigating the growing push toward global governance, digital control, and the battle for truth in modern society.

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They want to disciple your children into this diabolical worldview, and it oozes through everything they do.

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An award-winning international journalist, author, educator, and speaker. His work has been featured by major media outlets around the globe, but its mission goes deeper than journalism.

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Their goal is to create a global totalitarian political, economic, and religious system.

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Alex Newman pulls back the curtain of the global agenda, the manipulation of education and media. What Christians must do in this critical moment. This is not just politics. This is a battle for truth. With that, let's welcome Alex Newman. Welcome to the Defending Freedom Show. I'm your host, Kobe Wilsey, and today we have a special guest with us. I'm excited to have Alex Newman with us. He's an award-winning journalist. He is a very brave individual. He's an expert on multiple areas. But the one we're going to be talking about today is the global agenda, the UN, the WHO, the World Economic Forum. And I'm excited to get into it today. He's also an author. He's a man of God. He's a husband, a father, and a warrior for Jesus. And so I'm excited to have Alex today. Alex, welcome to the show, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

It's an honor to be here. Thanks so much for having me.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Yeah, man. Thank you for driving down today and spending some time with us. And uh man, I just want to thank you for what you're doing. Uh, you know, Citizens Defending Freedom, what we do is we go in and we train and equip churches. We're trying to empower the body of Christ to take action locally through civic engagement, right? To take back their local communities for Jesus Christ. And um, but what you do is on a little bit larger scale, uh, you kind of expose what's happening with this what I would call kind of a cabal of rich elites, uh, these globalists and their agenda. And so that's what I wanted to get into today. And I just remember when I first met you, I think it was at a Liberty Pastors in Virginia last year, and I heard your talk, I saw your presentation, and man, I was just blown away. And I'm like, wow, more people need to know about what's going on. They need to know about the globalist agenda. And really, we we say globalists, we think, oh, this is happening on a world. It really is, but it hits home and it it really affects people right where they are in their community. So before we kind of get into the big picture of that, um can you take us to like this a specific moment when you realized what you were covering, you know, as a journalist going around, that it wasn't just like academic abate that uh debate, that there was actually like a real agenda happening. Like what was that kind of moment where you're like, uh, okay, this is this is bigger than just uh kind of what we're seeing play out. Like, in other words, uh there's actually a coordinated effort uh with real power behind it.

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Yeah, well, thanks again, Colby, for having me. It's great to be here. And I had that realization in college, uh, pretty much at the same time that I came to know the Lord. Um I I I was studying, I was researching, I was doing journalism, mostly local journalism for uh a newspaper owned by the New York Times and another local paper. Uh so I wasn't necessarily covering these issues yet. I was still in college, but uh there was a specific moment in time where the Holy Spirit revealed to me that the Word of God was true. And that's when all of these other pieces that I had been studying started clicking into place and they all kind of got plugged in, kind of like a puzzle coming together, where I realized, whoa, these aren't just people with bad ideas or dumb ideas or you know, well-intentioned people who just want the world to be a better place and they see things a little bit differently than I do. Like this is actually evil. Uh and and the Bible describes that clearly. So I I had been studying this stuff a little bit in college, you know, looking at, for example, one of the first things that got me started was looking at the monetary system. Uh, when I first heard how the monetary system worked, it just sounded so implausible. Like, you mean they print money out of nothing and then they charge interest on it, and then we have to use it to pay our tax. So as I started digging, I saw that the world ran in very strange ways, but it wasn't until the Holy Spirit revealed to me that the Word of God was true that it suddenly all clicked into place, and I saw, like, wow, this is like actually a satanic agenda. It's international in scope. Uh, it's what David describes in Psalm 2, it's what the Apostle Paul describes when he talks about Satan as the god of this world. It's what uh John describes in 1 John chapter 5, verse 19, where he says the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. It's like, oh, so that's what's going on here. It's a spiritual battle and it's international in scope and it crosses generations. So that was a very particular moment. I remember like it was yesterday. I was 19 years old in college.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

Wow. What a you so you you've actually been inside some of these institutions. Like you go, you actually show up to the World Economic Forum, you interview these people, you ask questions, like let's get into, okay, let's get into who they are and what is their agenda. Like what what have what have you found out? So you started early in in college, but since then, what have you discovered about their agenda and who these people are?

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Well, the key thing that I've discovered about their agenda is that it is satanic. It's it's not well-intentioned. I mean, some of the useful idiots, yes, they may be well-intentioned, they be maybe sucked into this uh believing that it's well-intentioned. But uh honestly, I grew up in this world. That's that's one of the things that is very unique about my vantage point, and that I I went to very elite international schools with the children of billionaires and and top political leaders and CEOs of major companies. So I kind of came from that world, and I know these people personally, and I have since I was a child. Um and so that was uh very interesting to realize that the people that I knew so well, the people that I associated with, the people that I grew up with, at least their parents, were involved in in this horrific agenda. And so suddenly I saw everything in a new light because they were really preparing us in these international schools. I I grew up in uh Mexico and Brazil and Switzerland and Africa and back to Europe. So uh were your parents like what were wealthy, or were you all missionaries, or how my dad was a very senior executive at a Fortune 500 company, okay and my mom was a partner in one of the major accounting firms. So so both my parents were I mean, not you know, Bill Gates kind of level elite, but we went to school with the children of these kinds of people. Uh thanks mostly to my dad's company funding all of that. But um once I I started going to these places with this new lens that I got from realizing that the Bible was true, uh, it made much more sense. And so my entire career in journalism, I I've always been the kind of person that uh in journalism at least, you can't write a proper article. You can't really understand what's going on just from reading the press releases, just from reading what the news wires are saying. Uh you actually have to go there and you have to talk to these people. Uh and so for my entire career in journalism, I've been going to these kinds of meetings. Uh, my first big international meeting that I went to, I was fresh out of journalism school, was the COP 15, the UN Climate Summit in Copenhagen. Uh, and and I was still a baby Christian, but some of the stuff that I was seeing was just appalling. Like, yeah, I'll never forget the communist Chinese delegation to this meeting. Had had they'd come up with this formula uh where they were showing that, well, because of our one-child policy, there's now, I think it was like 400 million less human beings on the planet, and they they multiplied that by the expected CO2 footprint of each of those children, and they said, see how good we are for the climate, for for the environment. I'm thinking, like, these people are are talking monstrous things. Um, so so that's been really interesting to go and interact with these people uh in and and having come out of that world that's especially appalling because they they were teaching the kids that I went to school with to be these people, right? So to be kind of the upper management level of the globalist institutions. A lot of the kids that I went to school with either went into banking or into diplomacy, so they're working at a high level in the UN or they're working in uh you know corporate offices or they're working in politics. So uh it's a very strange vantage point. Uh needless to say, uh, some of the people that I grew up with aren't big fans of my work, but but that's okay. Uh that's okay. Uh some of them have reached out to me privately and said, Thank you for what you're doing. Uh, even people at a very high level in some of the institutions that we all know and hate. So it's uh it's a fascinating story.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

That's amazing. When so somewhere in there you became a Christian. Tell me about that. Did did um I mean, did you grow up in a Christian household or was that later on in life? Was that in college? When did you encounter the Lord? When did you surrender to Jesus?

SPEAKER_02 9:31

So growing up, uh my dad used to joke that we were CEO Catholics. And by that he meant we go to church on Christmas and Easter only, right? That's where you get the CEO from. So we were we were Christmas and Easter only Catholics, and uh occasionally if we were with family that was more Catholic, we would go to church a little bit more frequently. But religion wasn't a big part of our lives. I never took it especially seriously. Uh I got baptized as a baby just because that's what people do. But it wasn't until college um when I started studying these different things that I had uh what I consider to be, and I know some Christians don't like it when you talk like this, but I consider it to be a supernatural revelation. The Holy Spirit just opened my heart, opened my mind, and revealed to me that the Bible was true. I was uh I remember it perfectly. I was up late at night, I was working on a little newspaper that I had founded with some of my fellow college students. We were kind of, if you had asked us, we would have said we're libertarians, right? We believe in liberty, and we had different ideas of what exactly that meant. Uh, but I had felt a draw to the things of God, and I couldn't quite explain it. I bounced around from Marxist to atheist to agnostic to anarchist, and it just, you know, going with the wind. Um, and and I could easily be persuaded of different things. And I kind of landed on libertarianism, but as I was running this little college newspaper that we started, and we expanded rapidly, we were distributing in like 15 counties. I was uh just increasingly drawn to the things of God. And I wasn't a Christian yet, and I told uh some of my colleagues, and two of my top deputies were actually active homosexuals. I was like, we should put a Bible verse on the cover of the newspaper. And they're like, no, like why would you want to do that? That's great. And then again, I wasn't a Christian yet. I just, you know, there was all these Bible verses about liberty, proclaim liberty throughout the land out of Exodus that's on the liberty panels. It could be very appropriate. Um, and one night I was up working very late, uh trying to finalize the layout, finishing up editing some articles, and I just had this incredible revelation where it was like it was like a light bulb going off, like the Bible is true. Uh and so as soon as I could, I called uh my aunt, who was also my godmother, who had been debating with me about abortion and Jesus and Bible and all these things. And I called her and I was like, You were right, you were right, Aunt Jackie, that the Bible is true. And I was like jumping up and down. I said, Calm down, honey. You know, the Holy Spirit revealed that to you, and you'll have plenty of time to explore this. Just you know, calm yourself down. Uh and so that set me on a journey where I knew the Lord, I was a Christian, I didn't quite know what the Bible said yet. I knew some vague outlines, uh, but then I started reading the Bible. She told me to start in uh the Gospel of John, so I did. Went back to Matthew, read through the New Testament, went back to the Old Testament, started in Genesis, went all the way through, and um, and that began, of course, this process of sanctification. I was heavily into drugs, I was into all kinds of terrible, sinful activities that I should not have been in. And I smoking a pack a day at least, and and little by little God showed me my sin and helped me get it out. And that was uh what I guess 20 years ago now. It's crazy. Yeah, praise the Lord.

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That's awesome. And we kind of have similar background, although I didn't, you know, I didn't run around with children in globalist circles, but but we have similar testimony. That's really powerful, man. That is awesome. Um but so going back, I I want to there, I think there's a lot of people that just I I was one of them, right? I you hear this on TV, you might even like it gets put in your feed. Like if you do what we do, if you're kind of involved, um but the average person out there, they don't understand this globalist agenda, right? They really don't. For the most part, they're kind of in their own little bubble, their own little sphere of influence, and they're not really paying attention. And so can you maybe break this down for someone who's hearing this for the first time? In other words, when we talk about the idea of global governance or you know, what is actually being built, what is the what are these people's agenda? Like what as far as you can tell, what is the goal for them?

SPEAKER_02 13:35

I think when when you're talking about the human leaders of this effort, um I think it it's very much like a mafia. You know, they're they're not always all on the same page and they'll stab each other in the back if they think they can get ahead. But broadly speaking, their goal is to create a global totalitarian, political, economic, and religious system that kind of inverts the moral order that God has given us through his word. Um and and that's a very simplistic way of explaining a very complex uh idea. But you know, if you go back even into the beginning of the Old Testament, you'll find that it was God's idea to divide mankind up into nations. Um He says that explicitly, but uh Deuteronomy chapter 32, Acts chapter 17, uh the whole story is actually recounted in Genesis chapter 11, where God tells people, uh this is after the flood, he tells people it is spread out across the whole face of the earth, and they say they they resist and refuse, and they build this big tower. And uh, you know, we don't have all the details about it, but we have some pretty powerful clues. They're trying to build it up into the heavens. God says if they succeed, nothing will be uh uh uh prevented from them. And so uh God actually comes down and forces the issue, forces obedience, and he confuses their languages. So it was God's idea to divide mankind into nations. And we we can have a discussion about why he did that. I think that there's you know, I've got my own theories, I've heard other plausible ones that could make sense. But the fact is God divided people up into nations, into tribes, into tongues, uh, and the fact is God ordained certain institutions and moral laws for the benefit of his creatures and for his glory. Uh, one of those institutions, of course, is marriage. You go back to Adam and Eve. God said it was not good for man to be alone. So he ordained this institution called marriage, and he further clarified what that means for us in the New Testament, where he said it's a representation of the relationship between Christ and the church. So this is a divinely ordained institution. Uh-huh. Uh both the the nation, uh, the family as an organizational unit, uh, and and some of these others. And so you uh you look then at the moral laws that God has given us to govern life. Uh very simple one, don't murder. Uh those are the most basic. Uh you have don't steal.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

So there's ten of them that are pretty basic.

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Yeah, and and and what you see with this globalist movement is they reject those moral commands. Uh you know, God said don't murder, and and so depending on which one of these individuals you're looking at, they'll explain to you why we do need to murder. Well, it's not really a human, you know, it's just a clump of cells, or well, you know, Jews are subhuman, so you know, we gotta put them in the gas chambers, or uh, you know, wh whatever the excuses. Karl Marx argued that you know some people just were were not capable of advancing to the communist age. So he wanted to, for example, exterminate the Scottish Highlanders. They haven't even reached a capitalist stage yet, so just we gotta wipe them out, and uh, you know, then humanity can progress to this utopia. So they always have some reason why we should kill lots of people. And that's what we see over and over again, is the people who are promoting this uh ideology of globalism. Wherever they gain power, wherever they succeed, uh mass death follows in its wake. And then there's different like veneers that conceal these ideologies. Communism, globalism, fascism, whatever. They're all ultimately satanic at the core. Uh and so this globalist movement wants to overturn the institutions and the moral uh commands that God has given us in favor of a global political, economic, and religious system where uh their ideas, or I would even go a step further and say satanic ideas about how the world should run uh are are put in place as fixed laws. And so that I think that's the simplest way to explain the agenda is just take everything God teaches, flip it upside down, remove the institutions, morals, and divisions that God has created, and replace them with what they like to portray as this universal brotherhood of man utopia.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

It's um you know, if you if you don't have faith in Jesus Christ and you're not grounded in the Word of God, what you just said can probably sound one, it can either frighten you, or two, it can be like, no, there's no way. Like that's all conspiratorial, like that's not there's but I mean you've you've interviewed these people like you've heard and like even your uh presentation at Liberty Pastors, like it is shocking to hear what they actually say on camera, and we're not even talking about just like Klaus Schwab and some of these people, like we're talking about some of our own presidents. Oh yeah. Like the uh Bush Sr. Uh was very much in favor of this. There's others that we can name, but um I I mean, would you say that what they're pushing is is um it's interesting because we know it's spiritual, we know it's demonic, but these people are actually sold on this idea. And one of the things that they talk about is um you know merging humans with technology. Yep. Right? And we've got AI coming up, we have all this stuff going on. Can you speak to that a little bit about uh some of the things they've said in regards to that and that you know there is no God that I think what's the gentleman, the little bald uh Oh, you all know a Harare. Yes, man, that guy's got some quotes. But uh can you talk about some like their beliefs in that? Like what what is their their goal and some of the things they've said uh uh regarding merging humans with technology and this idea that we're gods, that there is no God in the clouds, we are gods. Can you speak to that a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Well, uh these people do not know the Lord. Uh they they specifically reject him. And we've got lots of videos of them mocking God, mocking Christ. And as such, you can imagine that death and eternity would be rather frightening. I mean, you know, we we who are in Christ, we know that uh to be absent from the body is to be present from the Lord. Like, oh, the worst thing you can do is send me home. Oh God, please don't throw me into the briar patch. But if you don't have that assurance, if you don't welcome the sovereignty of God and submit yourself to his will, uh eternity and death are rather terrifying. And so they come up with these lies that they tell themselves. And one of the key ones is actually the oldest lie in the book. It's the lie that Satan in the form of the serpent gave to Eve in the garden in Genesis chapter 3. Um did God really say, right, we're gonna question the word of God, and then, oh no, you won't surely die, right? You can have eternal life. Uh ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And so you look at this transhuman agenda. Uh, and and there was a time where this was seen as very fringe, it was mostly uh talked about kind of in hushed tones in secretive meetings. Now they're really out in the open about it. Uh they are telling us that if we refuse to participate in this, we're gonna become obsolete, we're gonna be left behind. I mean, even people that uh uh many uh Christians don't regard as suspicious. People like Elon Musk saying just recently, if we refuse to merge with AI, we're gonna be left behind, we're gonna be obsolete. Uh they believe that uh they can live forever by merging uh their mind with computer systems. Uh and that's not my opinion. They say this very openly, whether it's Ray Kurtzweil, chief of engineering at Google, he's been talking about this for 20 years. Uh you all know Harari, who you mentioned, uh one of the top ideologists for this transhuman movement. Uh so it's really the next logical step beyond transgenderism. And again, that shows you how diabolical it is. Uh God created man as male and female. Uh and so these guys believe, well, you know, God can't impose these limitations on us. Who does he think he is? We're gonna transcend our gender. Well, it's it's only a small step beyond that to say, well, you know, who is God to say we're limited in our human biology? We're gonna transcend our humanity. And so they've got all kinds of little schemes that they're working on, and they speak about them openly. Klaus Schwab did a whole book on some of these technologies, the fourth industrial revolution, where they say we're going to transcend our humanity. And there there's several different branches of this field, but the key ones that I think are the most relevant to the discussion, you've got uh genetic engineering, um, and and they're very far along on this. I mean, if you look at the CRISPR technology, for example, uh, they can already go into the gene code, edit it, and modify it. And and these good technologies have already been deployed on a commercial. Scale on a large scale, including in things that we saw recently that we're not allowed to talk about on YouTube with some of the injections with the mRNA platforms. You know, the these things actually inject human-created genetic code into your body that, first of all, uh was designed to hijack the protein manufacturing facilities in your cells to have them produce something that they wouldn't produce naturally, in this case, uh spike proteins, uh, but also have the ability to integrate themselves into the human genetic code and make permanent changes in a way that will be passed on to the next generation. So these technologies already exist and have been deployed. In fact, uh, one of the co-inventors of CRISPR technology wrote in her book, uh Cracking the Code, that we now have cracked the code of life and that we can now become masters of evolution. So that's a whole nother discussion. But they believe that they're going to control life on Earth going forward. A lot of this UN talk about biodiversity, they want us to think it's about saving lizards or cockroaches in the rainforest at baloney. It's about harvesting the genetic code from all these different creatures, putting it in a data bank, and then using that to mix and match going forward to create new kinds of entities. So the genetic engineering is a big component of it. Uh it's very far advanced. They these technologies have been around for years. The other side of this is the merging of the human mind with technological systems. Uh and again, they've been talking about this publicly for well over a decade. Uh the technologies are already in place. There's tens of thousands of people right now who are connected to computers directly through a piece of technology called Neuralink. Uh, it's one of Elon Musk's companies. Um, and and if you listen to him talk about it, he's very open about these things. It can read your brain waves and process them and make sense of what your brain is doing. It can even write into the brain using electromagnetic impulses. So these technologies have been around for decades. They're at the point now where they've already been installed in people. Uh and I'm not a technology phob, I'm not a Luddite, I'm not saying all technology is bad, we should reject all technology out of hand. Uh, and you know, clearly there are some useful applications for this. If you lost a leg in a war and this technology can help you control your prosthetic leg, you know, who am I to say you shouldn't be doing that? But if you look at their ultimate vision for this, it's very clearly the merger of the human mind with technology in a way that they think will allow their consciousness to survive forever. Um, which of course, you know, we know there's only one way to eternal life, that's through Christ. Uh these people are at best radically deceived, and it's uh I think a very dangerous movement.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

Something you just said, so Elon Musk. Um some people would say he's a little out there, right? He's he's he's brilliant, right? We know that clearly. But there's some people that, you know, because he came out really strong for Trump and he kind of jumped on that, and I've heard him quote, you know, I I think something happened to his own son who got caught up in the woke movement, and he said that, you know, his goal in life is to eliminate the woke mind virus. I think that's what he said. But do you think that his intentions are good and that he's kind of like Neuralink, for example, do you think he's doing it with good intentions, or do you think he's part of this system? That's kind of a loaded question, but it is.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

And and you know, it's very hard to know a man's heart, but we know a few things about Elon Musk. Uh, we know that he doesn't know the Lord. Uh he has said that publicly before. Uh, you know, the the closest he ever got, he was on a podcast, and they're like, So do you accept Jesus? And he's like, Well, you know, I don't see why not. Um, that that didn't sound like a genuine profession of faith to me. And that wasn't too long ago. So uh we also know what the scripture teaches about the nature of man. Uh Jeremiah says the heart of man is desperately wicked, uh, and that's true for all of us before we're regenerated in Christ Jesus. So Elon Musk may think he's doing good for the world. I mean, he he may think that uh these technologies are going to help us get to Mars or, you know, whatever. And and I'm grateful for some of what he's done. I mean, he he almost single-handedly rescued free speech on the internet through his purchase of X and through his uh resisting some of the demands of the Biden administration and the European Union. So I'm grateful for those things. But at the same time, if we accept what the scripture teaches about the heart of man, the fallen nature of man, and we accept uh Elon Musk's uh public statements as uh true, then you know, he may think he's well-intentioned, but uh he is still, I think, whether wittingly or not, helping along this process. He's he's such a prominent individual. He he's maybe the first trillionaire in human history, at least the first one that we know about. Uh and so I think we need to regard it with suspicion. Uh, you know, and and again, he he I I won't question that he's done some good things for mankind, uh, but we need to take heed to what the scriptures teach. Proverbs, Psalms, you know, don't put your trust in men. Elon Musk is not your savior, politicians are not gonna be your savior, put your trust in the Lord. Uh, that's where our trust needs to be.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

Absolutely. Let's uh let's talk a little bit about some of the the agenda twenty thirty, the sustainability developmental goals, and maybe even I don't know if wrapped into that as part of this whole climate change uh agenda, but ha people are bought and sold on the climate change thing. Oh, yeah. It's like a huge deal. How how are the globalists, how are they using this to push their agenda?

SPEAKER_02 27:42

So uh the 2030 agenda is a very, very important part of the plan. Just like the Soviets used to have their five-year plan, their 10-year plan for you know taking control of the economy and central planning of everything. The UN has the same thing. Uh they've got Agenda 21, which was signed by George H.W. Bush. That's their agenda for the 21st century. So that's their 100-year plan. Uh they had the Millennium Development Goals that covered from 2000 to 2015. Now we're currently living under the uh 2030 agenda, what they call the sustainable development goals. And uh the the head of the General Assembly, when this was passed unanimously by the UN General Assembly, which is all the UN member states, all the governments of the UN together, said that this was the master plan for humanity. So for the next 15 years, this is the master plan. Uh the Pope was there to bless this, uh Barack Obama signed it on behalf of the United States. And so uh the question then becomes well, what is sustainable development? And I think at its core, it goes back to what we started our discussion with. It's an attempt to invert the moral order and destroy the institutions that God has ordained. Um when you when you look past the window dressing, it's very clear that this is what it's about. So the current raison d'être behind sustainable development is climate change and alleged environmental problems. Uh I will not deny that there are environmental problems. There are some. They're primarily caused by too much government, right? You want to look at the worst environments in the world. It's the former communist nations of the Soviet Union, it's North Korea, it's communist China, where you can't even go outside some days in Beijing because the sky is so filthy with uh pollution. Uh it's not carbon dioxide, the gas that we exhale, the gas of life, which is what the UN claims is driving uh this alleged catastrophic man-made climate change. So when you read the sustainable development goals themselves, there are 17 of them, a very clear picture emerges. This is a roadmap to creating a totalitarian political and economic system. And then there's a religious component as well. Uh so these globalists publicly talk about what they describe as the three-legged stool approach to bringing this about. Uh, the three legs of the stool are the political, the public sector, the private sector, the businesses, and then the religious and the social sphere. And so the UN kind of handles the political arm of this, the public sector arm of this, because they bring together every nation state in the world, including the United States. Uh so that kind of takes care of that. And you read the political declarations that are in this 2030 agenda, uh, they call for essentially global government. They call for redistributing wealth, for example, in goal number 10, not just within nations anymore. So you know, national socialism is not gonna cut it anymore. Now they say we need to redistribute wealth among nations, which is the simple way of saying we're gonna take money from middle-class Americans and redistribute it to the kleptocrats who have impoverished the third world. Um you look at uh goal number four, for example, we're gonna indoctrinate all your children. Uh and they say this so explicitly, right? They say that by 2030, all of the learners need to actually be taught to promote sustainable development and global citizenship, which is you, of course, global citizens are citizens of a global authority, global government, uh, the UN's perverted vision for human rights, and on and on and on down the list. Um then you bring in the business sector, and so the World Economic Forum actually signed a strategic partnership with the UN in 2019, and they put out a press release about it. And the the role of the World Economic Forum in this is basically to serve as the second leg of the stool. Uh Klaus Schwab, on behalf of the World Economic Forum, promised that they were going to bring the businesses of the world to bear on this 2030 agenda, and that's exactly what they've done. Uh Larry Fink, who's currently the co-chair of the World Economic Forum, he oversees uh over $10 trillion in assets through BlackRock, right? The largest asset manager in the world. And we all saw what they did during Joe Biden. He was talking about it. He went and did a public interview with the New York Times and said, we're gonna force behavior change on these companies. And not just public companies, not just companies that you can buy and sell on the big stock exchanges. They're forcing this on the suppliers, the distributors, the contractors. Like if you want to if you're a farmer and you want to sell grain to uh Kellogg's or General Mills or whatever, you've got to keep track of your carbon footprint. You've got to implement sustainability practices on your farm. You've got to report this all so that they can report it to the SEC. And all this is coming down the pike. Then you have the third branch or the third leg of this stool, which is the religious realm. And again, they're very openly working on this. They've got multiple organizations leading the charge. The UN has the Faith for Earth initiative. Um, I actually interviewed the guy who launched that, the head of the UN Environment Program, uh Eric Solheim. Uh, and you know, very open. All your churches, all your synagogues, all your mosques, all your temples need to jump on board this bandwagon so that we could save Mother Earth. Uh, you've got Religions for Peace, funded by the UN, the State Department, George Soros, the Rockefellers, publicly saying we are the UN of religions and we represent all the religions of the world. And if you look at their own declarations, they say what we all agreed to is that human development must take place in accordance with the 2030 agenda. So the sustainable development movement, I think, is the latest ideological pretext to provide some level of cover for this global effort to really enslave humanity. They tried different things in the past. You know, back if you go back to the 1930s, they wanted some of these policies under the guise of efficiency. So, well, you know, free markets are just not that efficient. We've got all this competition. If we could just centrally plan everything, have the scientists and engineers dictate everything, then we'd be more efficient. Well, uh, that didn't really sell. And by the way, Elon Musk's granddad was uh involved in that movement. Then you fast forward some. It was uh, you know, global cooling was gonna be the reason why we needed to do this. And if you actually read what they were saying in the 70s and 80s about global cooling, the the solutions to global cooling were exactly the solutions to global warming. Less freedom for you, less money for you, more power, more money for government. Um and they've tried other things, you know, we're gonna run out of oil, so you've got to let us take charge of everything. They've got all these excuses. Sustainable development is just the latest excuse to justify this global power grab.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

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SPEAKER_02 36:03

Well, let's start with the first part. How successful are they, and then I'll get to President Trump. Um I think the first thing to understand about the sustainable development goals is that they're not actually achievable. They they were never intended to be achieved, right? Um it's just w window dressing. So, for example, they say we're gonna get rid of global hunger and global poverty. Like, well, Jesus told us that the poor will always be with you. And if you actually believed in getting rid of poverty, the exact opposite of what they're doing is what you would want to do. And and you can prove this objectively. I taught economics for 12 years. I mean, it's very simple. You just plot a graph. What are the richest countries in the world? Uh, where do they fall on the index of economic freedom? And what you'll find is there's almost a perfect correlation between more economic freedom and more prosperity. If you want to eliminate poverty, free markets are the way to do it. Biblical principles are the way to do it. Hands down, you can't argue with it. The only outliers on this graph would be countries like Qatar or Norway that just have oil coming out their ears, and so they can uh defy some of the basic laws of economics. So uh if their goal was actually to eliminate or or reduce poverty, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing. Uh they're advocating policies that are more akin to what we saw in Zimbabwe or Cuba or Angola or the Soviet Union, right? Like they don't produce wealth, they destroy wealth. And these people know that perfectly well. They're not dumb. There are many things, but they're not dumb. Um and then you have like you know, fixing the environment, solving climate change. What do you mean solving climate change? The climate has changed since God put the planet here. How do you solve a climate change?

SPEAKER_00 37:29

What a clever uh thing to call it. Climate change, right? Because it's always changing.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

That's right. And you see that, right? Oh, it's it's very cold. It must be climate change. Oh, it's very snowy, it must be climate change. Oh, there's not enough snow, it must be climate change. So uh it's a perfect boogeyman because there's you know, it's not like World War II where like you can objectively say, okay, we defeated the Nazis and that problem is finished. This is a problem that is perpetual. There's there's no way to solve it. Um and so so these goals were never intended to be achieved, and so they won't be achieved. It's it's not possible. What they were intended to do was justify uh basically a blank check on the liberties and bank accounts of all of humanity by the UN. So uh under the guise of solving hunger, under the guise of solving poverty, under the guise of solving climate change and environmental problems, they want to be able to take as much money as they claim is necessary from you. They want to be able to restrict your freedom as much as they claim is necessary to accomplish those things, knowing full well that these things will never be accomplished. Uh now, how successful have they been in getting this agenda implemented? Uh I would say wildly successful. Uh there are governments around the world that have now incorporated this into their national legislation. Uh people don't realize this, but so many of the policies that they see implemented, and this is true down to your local government in the United States, it's true uh in the European so-called parliamentary democracies, it's true in the Asian dictatorships. Uh a lot of these policies are coming directly from the United Nations. It's not like everybody's just waking up one day and thinking we should destroy our agricultural systems, right, under the guise of stopping cow farts. These policies are coming straight from the UN. And so from that perspective, they're incredibly successful in getting these things advanced. Uh people don't realize, for example, that education, they still think their local school board decides these things. Absolutely not. These policies are coming down from the Department of Education, which is getting them from UNESCO, which is getting them from kind of the powers behind the scenes that run the United Nations. Uh now, you asked about Trump, and I think this is a really, really significant development. Uh the Trump administration, well, let's start with climate change, and then we'll talk about sustainable development. Uh if I were advising Donald Trump on climate change, I would have told him to do exactly what he has done. He has taken and you know, I know people have disagreements with him politically, I have disagreements with him politically, but on the climate change issue specifically, I don't think he could have done a better job of taking a chainsaw to this agenda. Uh the only criticism I would have is that he hasn't pressed Congress hard enough to get these things enshrined in federal law. But everything he could do with his executive authority, he has done. He has taken us out of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. This is way bigger than killing the Paris Agreement. The Paris Agreement was an addendum to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. Okay. Uh the if the Paris Agreement is like a window, the UNFCCC is the foundation of the whole building. So uh he took us out of that and dozens of other UN organizations, including the Internet Governmental Panel on Climate Change, which is the pseudoscientific body that produces all the fake science and intellectual justification for this whole agenda. So at the international level, he's done a masterful job on that. On the domestic level, he has done a masterful job. Um one of the recent accomplishments that I think can't be uh touted enough is reversing Barack Obama's endangerment finding. So in uh 2009, Barack Obama, and this almost sounds too ridiculous to be true, but it is true.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Uh nothing surprises me anymore. But it is people.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

So Barack Obama using the EPA and the Clean Air Act, which was passed to get like actual pollution uh down, uh determines that carbon dioxide, the gas we exhale, about two pounds of it every single day, comes out of our mouths and our noses, uh, was actually pollution that needed to be regulated and controlled under the Clean Air Act. Uh and again, I realize that sounds totally crazy. It is totally crazy, but that's actually what happened. Uh and so that was the uh regulatory justification for the entire assault that came down after that. That's why they were shutting down our coal-fired power plants, that's why they were shutting down our coal extraction, that's why they wouldn't let us drill for oil, that's why we had all these idiotic regulations that are helping to destroy our car industry, our manufacturing. That's why everything's being shipped to China, uh, our jobs, our factories. Uh so uh by reversing that endangerment finding, all of these regulations fall, right? Because there's no longer any justification for them. So on the climate change front, Trump has done a masterful job. We haven't gotten enshrined into federal law yet, and time is running short. We got the the midterms coming up, and if Democrats take the House, which historically speaking is very likely, that's done, right? That's that's not gonna happen. Now, moving over to the sustainable development front for a moment, um, I couldn't believe that people didn't pick up on this. But uh the Trump administration told the UN General Assembly to their face that we reject the 2030 agenda, it's a threat to our sovereignty, it's a threat to the liberties of our people. We will no longer approve anything that positively references the 2030 agenda, and we're done with it. It's it's not a viable thing that Americans consent to, so you guys can knock it off now. Uh this should have been an earthquake. This should have been on the front page of every newspaper in the country, absolutely huge. Uh almost nobody knows about it. So for the next three years, give or take, a few months, uh, I think we're in a relatively good place. But the reality is we were in a similar place uh after the first Trump administration, and all it took was a few weeks of Joe Biden and the auto pen to reverse almost everything Trump had done. So I would encourage a lot of Trump supporters are just now sitting on the sidelines thinking that, well, the country saved, Trump's in the White House. Uh, and I would urge you to recognize that uh that's not even close to true. We might have a temporary pause in some of the most outrageous attacks on our freedom and our economy and our sovereignty, but these are just temporary pauses. And depending on what happens in the midterm, depending on what happens in the 2028 election, these forces are going to be back with a vengeance, and that might make the Biden presidency look mild by comparison.

SPEAKER_00 43:33

Wow. Well, yeah, that's that's kind of where I wanted to lead to. It's kind of like I don't want the listeners hearing this. Like I don't want them to walk away feeling like, wow, this is helpless, this is inevitable. Uh but you brought up some good points, but um, but you've been sounding the alarm on this for years. I mean, you've been on the front lines. What what what do you believe actually works? Like what can what can Americans, the average American, like, what can they Start to do to push back and against this agenda? Like even where they live, or like what what are some things that they can do to help?

SPEAKER_02 44:11

Well, you know, if we're speaking about Christians specifically, uh the Bible teaches us that the body of Christ is one body with many members. And so I think as Christians, we are commanded to do a few things, uh, and and some of these things apply to all of us. Uh for example, discipling our children. I think that's one of the most important things that we can do. But before we even get to that, you know, Paul Paul tells us that we are not ignorant of Satan's devices, and then we are to teach and preach the whole counsel of God. Um, and and that includes a proper understanding of what the enemy is up to. And so I think for Americans, for Christians, for conservatives, step one is we've got to have a good understanding of what's going on in the world. Uh, the first and most important source for that is, of course, going to be your Bible. If you read your Bible, you'll have a very good understanding of the nature of reality, and that'll help you navigate the times that we find ourselves in. Uh that includes a recognition of the reality of evil. It also includes, maybe more importantly, a recognition of the sovereignty of God. So praise the Lord. Uh it's it's not all up to us, it's not all on our shoulders, and thank God for that, because that would be overwhelming, and uh obviously none of us are capable of that. So I would encourage people to just start with yourself, read your Bible, be in prayer, uh, and then start doing what you can to obey what God has commanded us to do. Uh, and that very much includes um our own sanctification, that very much includes the way we deal with our family. Uh, you know, if you're a husband, are you loving your wife like Christ loved the church? If you're not, okay, well, that's something very uh simple that you can get working on now. I mean, you won't do it perfectly, obviously, but you can move in that direction. Do your best to love your wife. Uh wives, are you respecting your husbands? Um, children, are you honoring your parents? Uh, parents, are you bringing up your children, as it says in Ephesians 6, 4, in the fear of the discipline, the nurture, the admonition of the Lord? So uh I would say it starts really in the family. If your family's not functioning properly, you're gonna be utterly useless in trying to fix your your neighborhood, your city, your state, much less your country or the world. Right? So let's get our own homes in order first. Uh and and I believe, and I know people get offended when I when I say this, but I believe that today that really requires us as parents to remove our children from the system. Um and and you know, that doesn't mean we retreat from the world, but I don't think we can have our children discipled for five days a week by a rival discipleship program uh and and still pretend like we're being faithful to God's commands for bringing up our children and discipling them in the ways of the Lord. Um I would encourage people. This I think is one of the most important things people can do is focus on how you're raising your children. Uh if you want some insights, go to Deuteronomy 6, go to Deuteronomy 11. God gives us a real clear picture there of how we disciple our children. We teach them about his ways and his laws and his commands and what he's done for us when we wake up in the morning, when we're walking by the way, when we're sitting down to eat, when we're going to bed at night. Like it's it's a constant discipling of our children, and that will uh turn them into arrows, as Psalms says, that we can launch out into the world once they're fully trained to engage in this battle. We're in a spiritual war, and so we need to be prayed of, we need to be putting on the armor of God, and we need to be preparing our children for that. Um, you know, my wife and I we homeschool. Uh, I can't recommend it highly enough. I know it's not for everybody. Um, you know, we we use supplemental resources, we're part of Classical Conversations, which is a wonderful program. Um, there are really, really great resources out there for people. Uh if you don't feel like you can homeschool on your own, find a good Christian school. Uh, you know, I serve on the board of an online K through 12 uh classical Christian school called Freedom Project. So there's a lot of resources out there for parents who want to take this seriously. And I think people don't think about that enough because it's not like super sexy, it's not like you know, we're gonna save the days. It's a long-term commitment, it's a sacrifice. But I I think there are very few things people can do that are more important than following God's commands on that. Um another thing is then getting active. Once you've got your home, your family taken care of, we move outward from there into the community. I mean, get involved with citizens defending freedom, get involved in your church, get your church active in all areas of life. You know, you you are part of the Liberty Pastors program. If you have a pastor who hasn't been through that training, get them there. And I mean, we need our pastors and our church leadership to understand that Jesus must be the Lord of every area of life. And that includes our politics, it includes our family, it includes education, it includes our businesses. Uh, and so the more we make Jesus the Lord of everything, the more he can take the wheel and do great and mighty things through the remnant that we still have in this country. Uh, we've got to really focus on developing a biblical worldview that comes through reading the scriptures. Uh I would encourage people to the extent that they can to get involved in the political process. I mean, that doesn't mean everybody needs to go out and run for office, but if you're not willing to run for office, find some way to get involved. Maybe find a candidate that you know from your church that's a solid, reliable person, and go knock doors with them. And if you don't have time to knock doors, write a check for them. You know, help them get elected, get involved in your local party app, whatever God calls you to do, just do something.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

And at least register vote. Absolutely. But that's the bare minimum. Basic thing you could do, and so many people, so many Christians don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Absolutely. I mean, it it's so voting is the bare minimum, right? I mean, under our system of government, we the people are supposed to be in charge, and God's gonna hold us accountable, I think, for what we did with that power. All those Bible verses that apply to rulers, you know, you're supposed to be a minister of God, you're supposed to be a terror unto evil. Like we live in a unique nation where that's speaking to us. We are the ones who are supposed to be in charge here, and and we have not uh fulfilled our duty on that front. So, yeah, absolutely. Get registered to vote, register others to vote, uh stay informed. Uh, you know, I serve as senior editor of the New American Magazine. We put out a lot of good information for people to keep them up to speed on what's going on in the world. Uh, we do a free newsletter through Liberty Sentinel. There's a lot of great sources out there for information. Um, I know the ones that I work with best, but uh there's a lot of good sources where you can stay up to speed on what's going on in your community, what's going on in your state, what's going on in your country. And uh last but not least, Jesus has uh given us a very clear command that applies to all of us. That is the Great Commission. And so what are we doing to disciple the nations? And and we need to be clear that disciple the nations doesn't mean saying, you know, Jesus loves you, all right, see you later. Like discipleship is a process that that involves um coming to know Christ better, that involves uh making Christ the Lord of every area of our lives, uh, and that's gonna necessarily require prayer and study and Bible reading and involvement in a local congregation. And so, yes, we need to be sending missionaries, but we need to be doing much more than that. And again, we can start in our homes and then work outwards from there.

SPEAKER_00 51:14

Man, great advice, by the way. Thank you. That was solid. Um, so you mentioned about homeschooling. Uh my wife and I we're she well, really, she's on the front end. Uh I support her uh wholeheartedly. And now because I've gotten involved, she's like saying, you know, okay, you're responsible for the history lessons for our kids, right? But um, but we started our journey about a year and a half ago, two years ago, and um I I highly recommend it too. But you had mentioned earlier, like UNESCO and some of these people, like they have their tentacles all the way down into public education. And I know that you've been uh sounding the alarm on that as well. You've got a ton of resources uh in that, but can you speak to that a little bit too? Like, what what are they teaching our kids in school and why should parents wake up to this?

SPEAKER_02 52:06

This is one of my biggest issues out of the seven or eight books that I've written, three of them deal with education. I there's no other topic I've covered more extensively because I think it's the most important issue. It is a discipleship issue, it is a great commission issue. And if we look at what they're teaching now, you almost can't believe how bad it is, right? Like if we talk about just UNESCO for a moment, in 2018 they put out uh international uh guidance for sex education, sexual education. It is so monstrous. I I can't even repeat it here. I mean, the things they want five-year-olds to learn, and and they have it, you know, five-year-olds need to know this, nine-year-olds need to know this, is so monstrous. You wouldn't tell it to the children of your worst enemy. And yet the UN says this needs to be taught to every child in every school in every country. Uh obviously not all governments do that yet, thankfully. Some of the uh Arab governments have resisted this, and and we're grateful for that. Some of the African governments have resisted this. Um, they're trying to standardize education internationally, and they're doing so very openly. Uh they they have what they call the world core curriculum. And I mean, I I could go into depth on the world core curriculum, you can get it yourself. The UN says again it should be taught to every child in every school in every country. Uh the big thing you need to know, and this will tell you everything you need to know about it, is that the guy who wrote it, uh, Robert Muller, uh, he's often called the father of global education, he wrote in the foreword of the teacher's manual that it's based on the ideas of Alice Bailey and the Tibetan teacher Javal Koole. And Alice Bailey, uh, for for some background information, was the founder of the Lucifer Publishing Company. Well, there you go. Absolutely true story. It's still around today, it's the Lucius Trust. And um uh and that uh Tibetan teacher Javal Kool is a demon she was she was channeling. Uh she claimed it was an ascended master, a spiritual entity that was speaking through her. And if you read her books, uh it is so obviously from the pit of hell. Uh, you know, if if you have the Holy Spirit dwelling within you, you can read this, and it's just immediately clear what's going on here. They want to disciple your children into this diabolical worldview, uh, and it oozes through everything they do. Now, Trump has gotten us out of UNESCO, and I'm grateful for that. But uh the head of UNESCO, Audrey Azulai, when Trump announced that we were getting out of UNESCO, said, Oh, that's all right, we know you'll be back. And in the meantime, we're gonna work with our state and local education agency partners, American academia, the textbook public. So I mean they're mocking us, right? Like, okay, well, Trump can get out, but you did that before, we'll be right back. Uh, when you get down to even your local school district, I think a lot of Americans are very naive, like all the other ones are bad, but mine is good. It's like, no, no, they're all operating off the same script. Yes, it's true, there are some wonderful men and women who teach in these places, uh, but they are in a straitjacket. If they were to tell your children the truth about Christ, if they were to teach the fear of the Lord, which the Bible says is the beginning of wisdom, it's the beginning of knowledge, they would be fired faster than they would be if they were molesting children. And that's a fact. Okay. The federal government itself admits that less than one in three victims of the public school system are proficient in any subject. That's their data, not mine. Say that again. So the the U.S. government, every two years, they do what's called the National Assessment of Educational Progress. They take a representative sample of children from government schools and they give them standardized academic tests. Less than one in three rank proficient in English or math or science or history. Less than one in three. Okay, so over two-thirds of them are not even proficient. And if people understood what proficiency means according to the federal government, they would laugh out of their chairs. I mean, it it's a joke. Uh the reality is um they are turning our children into indoctrinated illiterates. They're doing it on purpose. Uh, and and you know, one of the things that I've studied is the history of how the government came to take control of education. People don't realize the government didn't use to educate kids, that's a new phenomenon. Um, every step of the way, you have people who publicly hate and reject God, publicly hate and reject the word of God. Many of them openly admit they're talking to spirits, which you know, go read Deuteronomy, go read Leviticus. Not a good idea. It's an abomination. Um so you look at the history of how that happened, and it's appalling. So uh I just want to urge parents to be in prayer about this issue, go to the Word of God for insight into how to educate your children, not the world. And uh it it will be a sacrifice, but you're gonna sacrifice no matter what. And the question is, are you gonna sacrifice your children or are you gonna sacrifice some of your time, some of your money uh to make sure that you're obeying God?

unknown 56:29

Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00 56:29

What are what are some of the resources like where parents can go like um that you can point them to to find you know steps to start doing that if they if they hear this podcast and they want to you know start homeschooling their kids, like what would you recommend?

SPEAKER_02 56:43

We actually started a ministry just specifically for that purpose. It's called Public School Exit. I'm blessed to serve as the executive director. It's uh it's a volunteer role. We don't pay ourselves a salary, it's just a labor of love because we want the church to recognize the seriousness of this. But if you go to publicschooleexit.com, you will find never-ending resources, uh. Everything from you know your state laws on these issues to vetted private schools to a scholarship fund to uh textbooks that we've looked at, to even you know the basics, like you know, why should I get out of government school? All that's available there for free. We do uh free calls every Friday for people who have questions. We have an incredible network of experts, we call them our advisors, that will, you know, we can connect them with your church, with your pastor, with your parents, whatever it is, if you want to start a anything from starting a Christian school to starting a homeschool co-op to uh setting up a scholarship fund in your church so that low-income families can afford to give their children a proper Christian education. All that is right there. And then um, you know, I I I work closely with classical conversations. In fact, my latest book I wrote with uh the CEO there, Robert Borton's great program. Uh it's the biggest homeschool program in the world with almost 150,000 students. Um I I mentioned I'm on the board of Freedom Project Academy, it's an online K through 12 school. And we even do s some classes a la carte, you know, if mom doesn't know how to teach chemistry, you know, we can uh help with that. Uh so there's a lot of resources out there. But a good kind of central clearinghouse would just be publicschoolexit.com.

SPEAKER_00 58:08

Nice. Well we can we'll put the links underneath in the chat, you know, in the bio, whatever for the YouTube channel. But um All right, so if you had to pick one institution, whether it's the UN, the Who, uh the World Economic Forum, which one do you think poses the most immediate threat to uh American sovereignty right now?

SPEAKER_02 58:36

Well, the United Nations, I think, is the vehicle that the globalists have chosen to serve as the future world government if they get their way. And so I think that remains the biggest threat, and it has been for a long time. Uh the sub-agencies of the UN are significant. Uh UNESCO, I mentioned, right, they deal with education. If you look at the UN, it basically now has all the attributes of statehood. Right? When you think of what defines a nation state, uh you think of armies, you think of police, you think of courts, you think if you're a modern liberal, you think of an environmental department, you think of a health department, you think of an education department, right? Um the UN has all of those things. Uh they they have armies, they call them peacekeeping armies, and they're famous around the world for raping women and children. Vile, vile organizations. Yeah, horrific. I mean, they've got attack helicopters. Everywhere they intervene, you find child sex trafficking, you find uh the UN picking the wrong side in the conflict. Going back to the first big one, right, in Katanga. They said the people of Katanga could not separate from Congo. They had to live under the Soviet-backed mass murdering communist dictator, and they would murder any civilian who disagreed. Horrific. So they've got the armies, uh, they've got multiple law enforcement programs, they have UN cops where they bring together chiefs of police, they have their own UN police that are deployed in countries around the world. Uh they have courts. They have the International Court of Justice, which they claim is the Supreme Court, which, by the way, last year ruled that all governments have a legal obligation to fight the climate crisis. And any government that refuses, they say, is committing an intentionally wrongful act. They're laying the groundwork for future prosecution. They've got the International Criminal Court at The Hague. And you know, a lot of Americans say, well, that doesn't apply to us because we're not members. Uh I I would caution you on that. Uh, the UN claims universal jurisdiction. Uh the president of the Philippines, the the only article I ever wrote about him was when he made fun of the UN and said we should leave. Right now he's sitting in a jail cell in The Hague awaiting trial in the International Criminal Court. Um, you know, Benjamin Netanyahu, whatever you think of him, the State of Israel is not a member of the ICC, and yet the International Criminal Court has filed charges against him. Uh they have filed charges against American soldiers. And of course, again, we're not part of this. So they claim universal jurisdiction. You've got uh now a global effort to tax us. Uh the International Maritime Organization approved just last year the first global tax directly on humanity. The only reason it got shelved for the time being is because Trump told them if they implemented it, there was going to be big problems. So they backed off on that. Um so they have all the trappings of a government already. The the World Health Organization is like their health department, the UNESCO is the education department, the UN Environment Program is the equivalent of the EPA. And so on all these different fronts, they're threatening our sovereignty. On health issues, the WHO is making global regulations. On environmental issues, the UNEP and the UNFCCC are making global environmental regulations. On education, the UN is bringing out, they just put out a report last year saying you can't have unregulated homeschooling anymore. It's a violation of human rights. Okay. The report was prepared by a North Korean communist. So on every front that you look at, the UN is waging war on our sovereignty. Uh there are a lot of other organizations that are dangerous, and I don't think the globalists need the UN per se. If the UN were to collapse tomorrow, they'd just come back with a new one. But right now, I think the UN is clearly the big threat. And so there's a couple bills in Congress. There's um one in the House, one in the Senate. Uh they call it the Defund Act, the disengaging entirely from the United Nations Act. Uh, the from the United Nations debacle act. Um and and that would not just defund the UN, that would remove our membership, and I think that would set them back in a major, major way.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

Wow. I was actually going to ask you that. If there's one piece of legislation that Congress could pass tomorrow, what would it be? So it sounds like you just kind of naturally went into that.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

Yeah, to deal with the globalists, that would that would be a devastating blow. I mean, uh you know, they wouldn't disappear, but they would certainly face a huge setback. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:37

What's in it? Do you mind unpacking it a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

Not at all. No. So it's a very simple bill. Uh it's kind of a descendant of bills that have been introduced for a few decades now. Congressman Ron Paul, Congressman Larry McDonald. Uh there's a lot of congressmen who over the years have introduced bills to do this. Uh used to be called the American Sovereignty Restoration Act. Uh but there's just a few key components. First of all, it repeals the UN Participation Act, which was the act that Congress passed to authorize our involvement in the U.N. Uh it ends our membership in all the different subagencies of the UN. So that would include the WHO, it would include uh the UNESCO, it would include all of these different agencies, and there's you know dozens of them. Um it would remove the UN's headquarters from our soil, you know, let them go operate out of Tehran or Havana or Beijing or you know, whatever. Let's get them out of our shores. Uh, and then it would prohibit uh American troops being used under UN command. So uh you know the the UN purports to have the authority under its charter to order our troops into war. Whenever the UN Security Council deems it necessary, uh this would prohibit that immediately, and so no more American troops would ever serve under UN command. So those are the key elements of the bill.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:43

Wow. Well it sounds like a bill we should get behind.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

It's a fantastic piece of legislation, and I would encourage people if your congressman is not yet a co-sponsor, uh give them a call. Tell them what you think.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:53

Yeah, I mean we should put out a call to action about that immediately. Um so I want to close with uh you know, we've been talking about a lot of areas, but basically the global agenda, the 2030, their plans and uh who these people are. Um do you think that it's possible if in this moment the remnant, you mentioned the remnant earlier, Christians um citizens would would rise to the occasion and begin to get involved, do some of the things you laid out earlier. Do you think that we could write the ship, that we could turn this around? Do we have a moment right now to do that before it's too late?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:34

With God's help, absolutely. Uh if I didn't think that was possible, I probably would be doing something else with my time. I'd be focusing more on my farm, maybe. Um, uh uh the reality is I think ultimately it's it's in God's hands. God is sovereign. And and I think if you just look objectively at the United States, God has used it in a mighty way. God has used our country to take the gospel to every corner of the world, he's used it to bless humanity in so many ways. Uh, but at the same time, if we look at it objectively, our nation has become a den of wickedness. We've exported uh all kinds of horrible things from this country. The abortion, the LGBT agenda, the pornography. I mean, America is like ground zero for all of that. We've murdered, what, 70 million unborn children? Uh God would be entirely justified in vaporizing this country yesterday, and and not one of us could uh make any argument. You know, the only thing you could say is like, God, there's still a few righteous people here. Um, you know, just hope he would show mercy. And and I think he has been very merciful to us. So uh I believe we're already seeing a kind of judgment in this country. Um, but I also believe that God can and does use very, very small groups of people for incredible things. And and there's many examples of that in the Old Testament. In the New Testament, you pick 12 guys. That's all right. I mean look at Gideon, right? He he chooses uh this the the smallest man, the least uh Important man in this group. Um, and then he builds the army and it's like 30 that that's way too big. Like, what do you do? He said, Send all the cowards home, you know, send the people who drink that way home. He has over 300 men uh and he uses this tiny, tiny, ridiculous army to smash uh the Midianite army, which is huge and very powerful. And God actually did that deliberately so that they wouldn't go away from this thing, like, oh, we were so good, you know, we were so strong and powerful that we were able to do. No, God defeated them. He just used you as a vessel. So I think if American Christians would be faithful, if America just very recently, uh the President of the United States read publicly, 2 Chronicles 7.14, if my people who are called by my name would repent, would humble themselves, would turn from their wicked ways, uh then he will hear from heaven and he will heal our land. And yes, that was a promise to uh the ancient Hebrews, but I believe it's also a universal principle. I think if God's people in this country would repent and humble themselves and pray and seek his face, I think God could use the remnant that's left here to turn the ship around. And I don't know what he'll do. Uh maybe he'll allow the whole thing to come crumbling down and then he'll use the remnant to rebuild on a solid foundation again. But I I I I don't know. But I do know that God's called on us to be faithful and obedient. He's called on us to be um bold and courageous, not to be fearful. And so I think f from my perspective, we just need to do what God said and trust him with the results.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:27

Absolutely, man. Well said. Well, Alex, thank you so much uh for coming, man. It's been an incredible interview, and and again, thank you for what you're doing, man. It's you're a unique individual. Uh God's anointing, his calling is definitely upon your life, and I just I can't thank you enough for kind of being on the front lines and being out there and and being willing to uh go and face these people head on and kind of expose their agenda, what's happening? Not a lot of people are doing what you're doing, so I'm very thankful for you, your ministry, and for you coming down and hanging out on the show today. So thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:04

Well, the feeling is mutual. I'm a huge fan of CDF and and what you guys are doing. I'm so grateful. Uh please keep up the great work. It's an honor to be here. So thank you very much. And I hope we can work together in the future.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:14

Absolutely. Where can people follow you? Where can they find you? Uh websites, social media, uh, how can people uh follow you?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:26

So easiest place is uh our personal website, liberty sentinel.org. Sentinel is S-E-N-T-I-N-E-L. Uh they can follow us on X, it's Alex Newman underscore J-O-U. Thank you, Elon Musk. Um and then uh you know, I mentioned I'm senior editor at the New American. We have a magazine, we put out daily headlines for free for people who want those. And um yeah, public school exit, you'll find a lot of good info there on education, classical conversations. But uh simplest place, one-stop shop is libertysentinel.org. People can find everything there.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:55

Awesome. Alex, thank you, man. Thank you. God bless you. God bless you. All right. Well, if you've enjoyed this episode uh or you've got anything out of it, I pray that you will share it with uh other people to get the word out about the globalist agenda. But right now, Alex and I are gonna go to the red zone and we're gonna have another discussion. We're gonna dive a little bit deeper and talk about some topics that we can only discuss on the other side. Otherwise, we would get kicked off major platforms like YouTube and some of the other ones. So uh with that I'm excited. If you want to if you want to hear our conversation in the red zone, please subscribe and join our Patreon account. And uh you don't want to miss this. This is gonna be an epic conversation in the red zone. So, Alex, you ready? Yes, sir. We're good. Welcome to the red zone.