Episode 9 - James Boren (Lake Ozark Police Chief)

On Episode 9 of the swifTEA Podcast, we're joined by one of the most recognizable faces keeping the Lake of the Ozarks safe, Lake Ozark Police Chief James Boren. From spending more than two decades in law enforcement to becoming the star of A&E's hit series Ozark Law, Chief Boren shares an honest, behind-the-scenes look at what it's really like protecting one of the busiest vacation destinations in the Midwest.

James takes us through his unexpected journey into law enforcement after originally chasing a career in music in Nashville. He reflects on working his way up through dispatch, patrol, investigations, and leadership before becoming Police Chief, while sharing the lessons he's learned about earning respect, building relationships, and leading officers who protect millions of visitors every year. We also dive into what it's like filming Ozark Law, how the cameras capture authentic moments, the funniest interactions with fans, and the unexpected fame that comes from appearing on national television.

We also discuss some of the Lake's biggest challenges, including Fourth of July storms, Memorial Day crowds, fake IDs, underage drinking, public marijuana use, BikeFest, and the constant balancing act of keeping the Strip safe without taking away the fun that makes Lake of the Ozarks such a unique destination. Chief Boren explains how his department works alongside local businesses, event organizers, and community leaders to improve safety while helping the Strip continue to grow into one of Missouri's premier entertainment districts.

Filled with hilarious stories, unforgettable encounters, behind-the-scenes television moments, and an inside look at modern policing, this episode offers a rare perspective on the people behind the badge. Whether you're a fan of Ozark Law, curious about what really happens on the Strip after dark, or simply love hearing stories from the people shaping the future of Lake of the Ozarks, Episode 9 with Police Chief James Boren is one conversation you won't want to miss.

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Transcript

Welcome And Meet The Police Chief

SPEAKER_06 0:14

Welcome back, guys. You're listening to Swifty Podcast. We survived the 4th of July weekend without getting locked up, but we probably should have been.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Our next guest is the TV star on a hit show in AE. He's helping made the lake a safer place for over 20 years. I recently found out he can sing, and we're lucky enough to have him keeping an eye on the beautiful Lake of the Ozarks. Ladies and gentlemen, Lake Ozark Police Chief, James Bourne. How are you doing? Thanks for having me. Boren. Yeah. Born.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Born.

SPEAKER_06 0:45

Like James Bond, Jason Bourne was sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Well, my name tag on my uniform is just Jay Bourne. And so a lot of people are like, wait a minute, what's your first name? And I'm like, yes, you're right. You guessed it. I taught him everything he knows. But no, it's not even clear. I'm the OG. That's right. Jay Bourne's a rapper. It is. Yeah. It's kind of nice.

SPEAKER_06 1:06

Well, thanks for coming on. For sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_06 1:09

Yeah, we're we're glad to. I mean, we hear obviously we're we live here, we we know all the ins and outs, but I'm sure you see a whole different side.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

You know, there is. There's a different side to the Lake of the Ozarks. Yeah. And and sometimes that's good. And sometimes it's it can get a little, you know, interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:26

A little western.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Yeah.

The Fourth Of July Storm Chaos

SPEAKER_02 1:28

What was it like this weekend with that storm that came in? Because like, you know, we uh we helped with that get down guide and we were like talking to all the bar no bar owners and everyone getting ready to like have the concerts and everything that was going on, and then it was like the worst timing for a storm I've ever seen. Yeah. On top of it being the worst storm I think I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

For sure. I don't I don't know if you guys know Ethan Lee, he's a friend of mine. Yeah. I was sitting out on his dock with our families when that storm rolled in. Yeah. And you could see that wall just coming straight towards us. Uh and these boats. I mean, most people have probably seen the videos, but they were panicking, trying to get out of the way of the storm.

SPEAKER_06 2:01

I mean, I was on the boat. She was out there. Yeah, she was out on one.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

I've been in a situation like that once.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

It's interesting to say the least. We accidentally ended up at one of the best places to see it because we went went to Paradise for lunch and they had that crazy view. So it was like a couple different angles. And it was like I felt like the south side of the lake and then the north got smoked, but then the middle snuck. It was weird. Yeah, it was very strange how it came in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:22

So how was the just handling all of that?

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Like you know, for the Lake Ozark side, it wasn't bad. Yeah. I mean, there was some debris and things like that. And we did have some people on the North Shore that were without power for a day and a half or two days. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

But for the most part, it didn't disrupt a lot of like the you know, the strip and the businesses and things like that. They were they were down for a little bit or some flickering, kind of depending on where you were. For the most part, it was it was a lot easier, I think, for that area than a lot of the other people around us.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

I was really surprised or that not more people got hurt. Well, even like our friends' doc blew away, and their kids were in the water, and they were trying to put like, and it was just like all those stories are just like close misses, and you're like, shoot, it just threes fallen everywhere.

SPEAKER_05 3:03

Everywhere my windshield did not survive.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Oh yeah. We had a friend blow away. He he went on. I do not have that problem. He got maybe one day.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

He's not a small guy, which is weird.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

He got stitches, but he went outside and he got picked up and blown away. And I just it was very uh story, very wizard of eyes. No, yeah. When Nikki told me that she's like, you know, Michael Farmer blew away. I was like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 3:26

Yeah, sorry, what? Yeah, did they hear you correctly?

SPEAKER_02 3:29

But it was crazy. On nights like that or something where

Strange Calls And Bear Sightings

SPEAKER_02 3:32

there's a story, do you guys ever get because you used to be a dispatcher, right? Yeah. Because you've been doing this for so long. So you get you get the calls when you started, but do people just call you and they're just like, you know, I can't find my cat, or if someone calls you and they're like, hey, my doc flipped upside down, you're like, I don't really know what to do. Or like you just get weird calls.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

You get some interesting calls like that, you know, back in my time in dispatch. Sometimes people just don't know who to call.

SPEAKER_04 3:53

Right.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

And so that just makes logical sense to them, you know, at least get the ball rolling. Call somebody who might know who to call, I guess, is kind of the logic behind that. Yeah. And that makes sense. And really, uh, for the most part, I don't think dispatchers mind. Occasionally, you might have some that maybe get a little attitude, like, why are you calling me? I'm not the guy, you know. But for the most part, you they can point them in the right direction.

SPEAKER_02 4:15

We had uh we had a buddy in town, her name was Rosie, she lived in Key West, and she came up and she's from Brazil, and she was hanging out, and she goes, She was kind of weird. We got on, we got on the bubboat, and we were hanging out. It was for Aquapalooza, and she was like worried to get in the water, and she said, My friends told me to watch out for bears in the water. And I just laughed and I made fun of her all weekend about water bears, and there's no bears in the water. And then, like, six months later, she sent me a video from I think it was like Kelly Sport posted it or somebody, and it was a bear swimming around a dock, and I was like, Well, I'll be. I was like, Yeah, it was all right.

SPEAKER_05 4:45

It's actually Riley, I think. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

So, like, if there's a bear or something, they'll call you guys, or I just thought.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Yeah, they will, you know, and again, like my kids aren't gonna know what to do with a bear. Yeah, you know, it's like we're not trained with that yet. I would say eventually, yeah, yeah. We're seeing more and more of them. So eventually we'll probably have to get them to some how-to training. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

Can we go in then?

SPEAKER_01 5:08

You know, we do have pepper spray. We have what we sometimes refer to as like a party pack, you know, the big cans. Yeah. I don't know that they're rated for bears, but if nothing else, try that.

SPEAKER_04 5:16

Find out, probably. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:17

There was one done by uh El Hana not too long ago. It was like a little bear they had to like catch and go put it somewhere. Yeah, I think they they replanted one somewhere else, right? Where do you put it? Where you put it transplant, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:29

Take it to the state park, it'll survive.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Yeah. If you were sitting there and someone just unloaded a bear into your yard and be like, hey, get out of here.

SPEAKER_06 5:36

I did not ask for this.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:38

So how long have you give us a little backstory on how you got into the force and everything?

From Nashville Music To Dispatch

SPEAKER_01 5:44

It was interesting. I could tell you, I never planned to be in law enforcement, you know, especially this long. Yeah. We got married young. I think we were both I think she was 19 and I was 20. And about a year after we got married, we decided to move to Nashville because I was doing music and things like that, and thought that was the the way to go and the plan. And that was an interesting time because as soon as we got to Nashville, started working with another guy who was who was doing a a recording basically like an EP, like a demo kind of thing. And and that was kind of fun because as soon as I'm in Nashville, I'm in a recording studio. I'm like, oh, this is awesome. This is how it's supposed to work. Not that I've made it anywhere, but this is really cool. Right. And and then soon after we found out we were pregnant, and so we decided to move back and I needed a job. I was about to have a kid, and you know, I was gonna be a dad and I was a new husband. And my father-in-law had worked in law enforcement for a long time. And he said, Well, I I could probably get you an interview. And so he called up Lagos R PD, got me an interview, and they they didn't hire me. I was like second pick. And of course I had like piercings and stuff. I probably did not look like the guy, you know, for for a job in dispatch. And about a week later they called me back and said, Hey, that guy didn't work out. Would you would you like to come work for us? And I said, sure. And and really that was kind of like it. I did that for two years, and then we had an opening, and I I said, Hey, would you guys consider sponsoring me to the academy? And it wasn't we didn't do a lot of that around here back then. Yeah. Uh, you know, where they would pay my salary while I went to the academy, they paid for the tuition of the academy. There wasn't much of that happening in our area. And and so I was kind of, I guess, what you would call like a pilot program for that at Lake Ozark for sure. And now, like 21 years later, you know, I'm the chief, so I guess it worked out. Yeah. You know, they got their money's worth anyway. And, you know, I've had a job for 21 years, so I think uh it worked for both of us. But yeah, I was able to to do and learn a lot of things along the way. Uh you know, I started in dispatch, did that for a couple of years, then I was an officer. I was a patrol supervisor, like a corporal for several years. And then I was moved to investigations and eventually a sergeant and then a lieutenant, and then you know, the chief. And I, you know, there are a certain number of people that just have roots in a place like this and they just want to be here. It's a great place to raise a family. Yeah, for sure. You know, my job now as a chief, I can't make all the officers be like me. And that's not what I want anyway. I want them to go out and and do what what they're good at, you know, and each of them are gonna have an area of law enforcement that they are passionate about. And and I need that because if they're if they're passionate about whatever, whether that's DWIs or drugs or training, you know, maybe it's maybe they have a knack for teaching and training. I need them to be doing that so that I get the best out of them. Yeah. And so, you know, sometimes we have to get there, you know. Like I may hire a guy tomorrow that that I can tell is gonna someday be a really good trainer, but he's brand new on the job, so now's not the time. You know, it's gonna take us a little bit to get him there and hopefully have him that long.

SPEAKER_06 8:56

That's cool. Definitely that's good that yeah, I mean, you've gone through basically almost every position, and that I mean that speaks.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

And it feels like yesterday. I mean, it really does feel like yesterday that I was the guy, the new guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

Staffing A Small Department In Summer

SPEAKER_01 9:10

I guess.

SPEAKER_05 9:10

I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

I uh I started working down here in college and then I just I loved it and I got stuck, but it's probably the same time like 2006, 2007. So like you've seen it blow up, and then during COVID when we're in real estate, it wasn't until like the middle of that summer where I think everybody that lived down here was like, what's happening? Yeah. Like is it way busier or is it? Starting to get some notability around here. And not always for the right reasons, but right, yeah. It worked so like I felt like you know, there was such an influx of people, everything that like there's not just all of a sudden you can't just be like, well, now we need 10 more officers. Is it just more work for you guys? More is just harder, or is it just because that was like that was such a weird thing that happened to all of us, but it's just like when that blew up, did you guys like hire any more people, or is that just a weird time?

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Yeah, we did. We were able to hire a couple more, and I think it it wasn't overnight that we needed everybody, but it was noticeable. Yeah. You know, that we had we definitely had this summer or two where we're like, there's something happening here that we're not necessarily equipped for just yet. Yeah, you know, and so there was kind of I remember a few years ago, the same time frame that you're talking about where you know we might only have two officers scheduled on a weekend. Yeah. And then we had this influx of people down on the strip. And and it wasn't necessarily that everybody was, you know, against the police, but you're outnumbered, you know, hundreds to one. And and we're still that way, but we kind of have a system and a way to handle kind of that influx. But yeah, I remember some of those conversations of officers calling like in the middle of the night, like, there's just way too many people out here. We we can't r do this with just two.

SPEAKER_04 10:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

And so, you know, for us now, it's again, we're still kind of outnumbered. We're still what I would consider short staffed during that part of the year. But we have to be creative in how we schedule, you know, and that honestly what that looks like is even some of your your top staff are gonna be out there all weekend, like me, Sergeant Cordula, Sergeant Meyer. Uh, we're gonna be down there a lot of weekends, if not every weekend, just to help. You know, now obviously as a chief, I'm not necessarily the guy that's gonna be taking all the reports.

SPEAKER_04 11:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

I mean, I will if I if I need to, but more than anything, I need to be down there to to support in any way I can to make sure they have the tools to get the job done. Uh, you know, obviously kind of lead and provide some guidance and direction, things like that. But I I want them to know more than anything, like, I'm gonna be there because if you're gonna be down there every weekend, yeah, I'm gonna be down there to help us too, you know, as much as I can.

SPEAKER_06 11:35

So, what is like a normal, say, like during the week, how many officers are usually like out at night?

SPEAKER_01 11:42

Like usually three, probably three or sometimes four, sometimes two, you know, on a normal day. Uh I should say like an evening shift or something. Yep. And again, we're a small city, you know, we're not we we neighbor right up against Osage Beach, but we also have Miller County and Camden County, you know, we're in both. And we have State Patrol and Water Patrol that are, you know, one and the same but two different functions. So we have I guess resources around us that if we need something, uh they're gonna be pretty quick. But on these busy weekends, they're tied up too. Yeah. You know, and so a typical, a typical shift you're gonna see like on an evening shift, two or three officers. And then on a weekend, you know, we're gonna pull in six or eight or on a holiday, maybe twelve, you know, if we can. And and most of our efforts are focused right there on the strip. Yeah. Because of so many people down there.

How The TV Show Changes Things

SPEAKER_05 12:32

Have you noticed since the TV show started airing? Because I feel like I have in the last two to three years, the traffic on the strip has increased dramatically. And I feel like a lot of the times they just come and hang out in the median with you guys.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

And we have a lot of that. I think we're starting, you know, it's still kind of trickling in, I think, because we have a lot of people down on the strip that see the cameras and they come up and they're like, What are these cameras about?

SPEAKER_04 12:56

Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

You know, and then you have the other group of people that are like, Oh, I this is my favorite show. And I I just wanted to come down here and meet an officer. And I'm like, You probably saw us at the grocery store. Yeah. You know, like some of them are locals that like, I really wanted to just meet somebody that was on the show. I'm like, Well, I mean, yeah, I might have seen you at Starbucks, you know, or at the Red Lantern or wherever, you know. Um and then there's other people that we get, they're like, hey, we've been watching this show now for a couple seasons and we came from Minnesota. And the only thing we wanted to do when we got down here was meet one of the officers. And it's interesting for us because sometimes they're 60 years old. Yeah. You know, and for me, the little kids are like, And you get some of those too, but for me it's it's interesting because it's just our everyday job. Right, right. You know, and I told the camera crew all the time, I'm like, I don't get it. Like, I don't want to just start watching people on their on TV do their everyday jobs.

SPEAKER_06 13:48

I don't understand why other people want it's intriguing because a lot of us, even like myself, I'm like I mean, I know what you guys do, but I'm like, there's a lot that goes into it. And so it is a tricky for people.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

I think it's neat to be able to really kind of show the human side of how the officers are doing it. You know, again, we're not always gonna get it perfect. We're not always gonna get it right, but there is a human element to it, you know? Yeah. And and decisions like in real time having to make the right decision. And sometimes that's more difficult than, you know, looking back on it from Monday's point of view.

unknown 14:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:19

Right. My cousin lives on the 65 mile marker, and it's funny because she watches the show. So they don't get over to this side of the lake a lot. Her name is Jada, and she's always like, Hina, will you please take me to the strip so I can see the the cops from Ozark Law? I'm like, sure. So we might come on down, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

But you know, it's funny because what we're doing now is what we've been doing since before there were cameras, you know, taking pictures, shaking hands. You know, somebody will come up and be like, Hey, can you put the handcuffs on me so I can send a picture of my mom? And and of course we don't put them all the way on, but we're like, Yeah, and we've been doing that for years, you know, way before cameras were down. And I remember I think it was my first probably my first season as chief, or maybe the summer before that, because there was a summer where I was only part-time, and then I came back as chief, and I was down there on the strip doing our normal thing, talking to people. You know, that's one of my favorite things, be able to just talk to the visitors and find out where they're from and you know, a little bit about them and kind of why they come to our area. And and people would come up and say, Hey, can we take a picture? And a couple of officers were like, No, we don't, we don't do that. Yeah. I'm like, Hey, I'll take a picture. Yeah, and you could just see them like, Oh, we can do this. Yeah, I'm like, What now that's all good? No, yeah. And it's just need to see like the the human side, you know, we're just guys doing a job. I think it helps. Yeah, because you know, for sure, definitely.

SPEAKER_06 15:39

Well, it helps with like I think respect too. I mean, I know that that's a huge thing that people get confused about. Like, you know, yeah, we are normal people, we have families, we have lives, but we're here to also, you know, do our job.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

And I've said it a lot of times in other conversations, but you know, we might run into these people early in the evening and have a laugh or a photo or shake hands or whatever. And then later that night they may be into something that they shouldn't be. Yeah. And we've now already have a rapport established, you know, and so we have to come up and and kind of be the bad guy now, like, hey, it's time to stop, whatever you're doing. They already know, like, there's a little bit of an element of, hey, that guy's all right, because I've already met him tonight, you know, and and we're not automatically at odds. And so it that kind of helps, and it's just kind of a natural byproduct sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

When uh like we do a bunch of like real estate videos or we on camera a lot, and when you start doing it, like it's just really awkward. Like our buddy Brand just started doing it, and he's a smooth talker. And his first video, he like tilted his head, was walking. I was like, What are you doing? He's like, I don't know, and then it means you in the hands and stuff, and I'm like weird. He's like, Why am I doing that? And I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 16:43

It is a d when you put a camera in someone's face, things change a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Did you like find yourself like over going too hard or like whatever? It was like of course it took a minute, bro.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Yeah, it does, but they're used to wearing cameras. Yeah, but to having uh to have a camera like in your face sometimes, and they told us the first season they came, they're like, We're gonna get there about a week early, just so that you guys are used to the first summer they were here, they came on 4th of July, or that was the first weekend they started filming. But they were here about a week earlier with the cameras and the crew. They said, Because about after a week it's gonna wear off, and you're not even gonna think about the cameras in your face. And and now I now there's filming for a potential season three, and it's just like we don't even really notice they're there, you know. I mean, sometimes when we'll be talking off to the side and they'll come over and be like, Hey, we didn't get that, could you say that again? And I'm like, eh, sorry. I mean, it's not gonna be authentic, you know. And and but that's what they want too. They want the authenticity of whatever the conversations are, you know. And so if you have to if you have to set it up, you know, or or redo it, like yeah, that's not true.

SPEAKER_06 17:48

Well, and and I've I've watched, you know, the show and and it is interesting to me because I mean, yeah, a lot of with anything TV, you know, there is an element of pre you know pr production. Yeah, you have to but for the most part, I mean, I'm like, you guys do a really great job, and I know there's things that are happening and in real time that aren't made up, but um it is it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 18:08

Well, and uh go ahead. I was saying we did like a pilot for a couple things at Shady Gators back when we worked there, but there was one for True TV, and it was like they were setting everything up. But but so like we were still in it. So like I remember one time they're like, We need you to fire this girl that's drunk at work. And I was like, you know, you're doing it like I've never even been in a play. Yeah, you know, like so like I'm not like I'm not like an actor, you know. So I'm like, hey, you know, like well, let's say like it like almost has to be organic or else it just feels like. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

And that's a lot of the conversation we have with the production company because they are producing TV. Yeah, you know, but what they're trying to draw out of us is the real side, you know, the documenting what we're actually doing. And so sometimes there is an element where they have to pull us off to the side and have us explain, you know, what it is we're doing. And and maybe like the first run through was horrible. So they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it again, you know, but it's still in an effort to document, you know, accurately what we're doing and kind of unfold and unpack what happened throughout the night. And and so it is kind of interesting though, because those are times where you're like standing off to the side with a camera in your face, and you're like, I feel like I'm a total idiot. You know, why am I talking right now?

SPEAKER_02 19:15

So like with the admin. But with like with like body cams and stuff too, like I'm sure, like, well, if you're a singer, you're like in the car, you're singing or say something stupid, and you're like, Oh, that's on camera. Are you gonna do it? Like, it's just like it's always on. I mean, you guys kind of I guess you have to be so now because you got them on.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Yeah. And honestly, there's just kind of a a point where you have to shrug it off. Like, yeah, if I say something dumb, it's just whatever, you know, it's it'll be fine.

SPEAKER_06 19:41

Laugh and do um, so like when you're, you know, something's happening and you're filming and you're pulling someone over your or you know, on the strip and having to break up a fight or whatever, do people act different when they realize they're on camera?

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Um some I think what we see more of is people that notice the cameras are there and they're like, I don't want to be filmed. And unfortunately, like when you're on the strip, I mean you're in a public area. Yeah. There's no expectation of privacy when you're in a public area. Now, if you're in your home or things like that, you know, it's just nothing you can do about it. And so you don't necessarily have to sign the waiver that the production company's gonna come and ask you to sign, but you can't uh uh aside from just shielding yourself, there's nothing you can do about camera. They're everywhere, you know? And so we do have a few people that are like, hey, I don't want to talk to you because I don't want to be on film. Yeah. It's like, well, they don't break the law.

SPEAKER_06 20:31

Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, that's not break the law. Do they yeah, yeah, do they act out a little more at all? Like once they realize, ooh, okay, yeah, here I am.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

Let's send it and get on the show. More than anything, we see a few down on the strip that they're like, hey, what do I need to do to get on TV? And I'm like, you know what? I gotta be honest, it's not up to me. Like, I'm not running the camera, and that's not my production crew. And so they're and so they joke a lot. Well, like, if I if I fake a fight, can I get on TV? I'm like, nope, there's people that already tried that. It's not gonna work. Please dance. And then you have a few that decide that that's their moment to dance in front of the camera. Yeah. We see a lot of that, you know. And it's like we're three years into this now. They're not gonna probably do anything in front of that camera that they haven't already seen, you know. That's

BikeFest Versus Memorial Day Mayhem

SPEAKER_01 21:15

funny.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Is it uh what do you think like the the wildest weekend is for you guys? Or is it like is the bike fest the craziest, or is it like, you know, fourth of like was it fourth of July or Memorial Day?

SPEAKER_01 21:25

I would say probably you know, bike fest is the longest. Yeah. And it's got a lot of potential for danger. Extra day this week. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But that's a really great event and and great people that show up. There's just so many people, and that's why I say it's got a lot of potential for problems. It's because it's just all the people, you know, however many people, you know, everywhere. They're they're all over the Lake of the Ozarks, and at some point most of them are gonna be on the strip. Yeah. And so that's a long one and and a tough one. But Memorial Day, the last few years has just seemed to be kind of off the hook. Like interesting, challenging. Challenges all weekend long, fights, you know, all kinds of stuff.

SPEAKER_06 22:03

Everyone's just like, they're like, We're out of the way. Winter's over.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

They're not used to partying. They're not used to partying yet. By Bike Fest, everyone's used to partying on the strip.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

And Bike Fest is a totally different crowd. You know, for sure. Those folks have traveled, I don't know, some of them all across the country to come down to our event. And, you know, they've got some investment in it. Whereas like your Memorial Day crowd is mostly probably regional. Yeah. You know, and they're just coming down to kind of let loose for the weekend. And really those are the ones that for us seem to, I wouldn't say cause the most problems, but do pose a challenge because you know we have to maintain order and it's just not, you know, it can't just be a block party every weekend on the strip. And Memorial Day gets gets pretty rowdy.

SPEAKER_06 22:43

Okay. Interesting. I would have totally thought, like, yeah, maybe a fourth of July or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

From the bars, Memorial Day was just it'd seem more amateur hour than any other week of the state. Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it. That's the weekend.

Underage Crowds And Fake ID Reality

SPEAKER_01 22:56

And I think the strip has kind of gained its own reputation, unfortunately, that maybe if you're underage, this is the place to be because it's an open public area. You know, it's not you can't walk around. Yeah, you can legally shops and walk around and but at 10 30 or midnight, there's none of those shops are open. Right. And there's no reason for anybody underage to be down there because they can't get into the bars and there's no shopping open for them. And so that's poses a serious problem for us because they're there and they end up, you know, some yeah, some of them try to jump the fence or slip in through the lines. And what we've seen this year is really just an effort of cohesiveness between us and the bars that is probably hasn't been seen yet. And and I think it's been noticeable. Last weekend, I think it was Friday night, one of the security officers came up to us, a door person at the bar, and she handed me a stack of IDs. I'm not kidding, that big of fake IDs. Oh wow. From one night at one bar. And that's just one of the places. And what we're seeing this year is that more of the bars are taking a very serious approach to that. It helps us too, because when they're doing their part, we can really, you know, hammer the other ones, you know, that we catch too. Rather than if if either the bars are the only ones trying or we're the only ones trying, we can't catch them all. Yeah. And when both of us are trying, man, we're we're just catching them left and right. And not all of those people are getting tickets. Sometimes they'll show up to that bar with their fake ID, and then the the doorman is like, hey, this is fake. And so do you want me to call the cops over or are we good? And they're like, No, you can keep that. I'm I'm out. And so that's why they end up with a stack. And that, you know, we honestly we would prefer that they did call us over because we would honestly ticket every single one of them because we need we're trying to send the message.

SPEAKER_06 24:42

This is a serious, yeah. Exactly. I mean, they're not only like, yeah, it's it's it's up these bars can get in some seriously, and you know, it's their livelihood, yeah, and not just the bar owners, but also the the servers and the people that work there.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

I mean, their money and income depend on that.

SPEAKER_04 24:56

Yeah, just make sure you have age.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

And a lot of our fights, the a lot of our fights come from the underage people, you know. Because they're not used to anything. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

And they're not supposed to be there anyway. So well, and just from managing bars and stuff, and you're talking about privacy, but nowadays it's like if you're underage in a bar, you're gonna be like in the background of a hundred pictures. Like everyone's just walking around taking pictures all day. So like if you're in there and you're underage, you're gonna be like, Oh, I wasn't there, and you'd be like, Well, you're you know, I had a guy come up to me two weekends ago.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

We're standing in the middle of the road, just kind of watching the crowds, and he walks up. And sometimes if a doorman or a bartender can't verify an ID, they'll just call us and call us over and say, Hey, if you have time, could you check this? I don't I don't know, I can't tell if this one's fake or real. And so this guy walks up to me with this ID and he goes, Hey, the the bar over there said I needed to have you guys check this. And so the officer ran it and it came back with nothing, which doesn't automatically mean it's fake, but it's a pretty good clue. And it was an out of state ID, and he hands me the ID, and I look at it and I I kind of do my thing. I could tell right off the bat that it was fake. And I'm like, Why, why did you walk over here? He said, Well, they told me I had to come over here and get this verified. I said, No, maybe an understanding. Why did you come to the cops in the middle of the road with a fake ID? And he just kind of stood there like stumbling over. I'm like, dude, what is your what is your deal?

SPEAKER_04 26:18

This thing says you know it's fake.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Exactly. And I know it's fake, and you still walked up to the cops, like you could have just left.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

What didn't he think was gonna happen? Just turn himself in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

I think the Arizona IDs, I remember they like don't expire for like 30 years, and I remember seeing that one on that, and I was like, this is fake, and I took it and they were like, No, it's not. I need my ID back. I'm like, whatever, buddy. And then I take me back, and I was like, Oh, sorry about that.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Some of the states, like Iowa, for instance, we found out that you can, you know, Iowa, they get an ID or a driver's license with restrictions, I think, at like 14.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

So a picture at 14 may still be on file when you're 18 or 19. That's crazy. And so this guy shows up the other day with a picture and the bar won't let him in because he looks 14 on the photo. It doesn't even look like the same people. Anyway, and maybe it wasn't either way, we ended up with this guy, and we're trying to figure figure out if this is a real ID or a fake one because the picture looks so young. Yeah. It looks clearly like it's not him. And then we we figured out that, yeah, actually, that picture may be on file there for years.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

Interesting.

Marijuana In Public And Strip Rules

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Is it weird down there just anywhere for me? Because I'm not a big weed guy, but now that marijuana's legal and you're seeing it more and more everywhere. Like, is there like restrictions on what you can like what is it?

SPEAKER_01 27:36

There are, and that's one thing that we've also been trying. You listen, we're not trying to be fun haters. Yeah. But there is nowhere in the state of Missouri that you can smoke weed in a public area. Like you can smoke it at your house, you can smoke it on private property if you're allowed, but you cannot in anywhere in the state smoke it in a public area. Okay. Now, there are areas where they don't do anything about it. You know, like maybe some of your cities or something like that. There's just so much of it going on that they've opted to just not do anything about it. And I can't speak for them, but for us, what we're trying to mitigate is the fact that people come down to the strip, they smoke marijuana, they bring their own alcohol, and they and they just party to loud music out on the street, never going into the bars. Yeah. So that doesn't do the bars any good. Right. It certainly doesn't do us any good. Yeah. Uh, because now we have people just lingering out in the out on the sidewalks in the streets for the only purpose of it's a block party atmosphere. And so that's one thing we've taken a really strong approach on this year. Started kind of last year also, but really this year, and and with the backing of our board of aldermen of the city, you know, we're trying to we again we don't want to kill the fun. We want to keep keep a good vibe. Yeah but at the same time, we have to maintain like some order. And if it's just you know, loud music and weed and alcohol out there on the street all weekend long, it's only gonna turn into problems, you know. And so again, with the cooperation of the bars and just us trying to work together as much as we can, you know, we have adopted a new city ordinance that deals with smoking marijuana in public. Now, there's already a state law on the books, but having a city ordinance makes it simpler for our officers to handle it. You know, we can scratch out a city ticket. Yeah. And usually just walking up to them and telling them, hey, you can't do that here. And and uh someone will be like, Oh, wait, you can't? Yeah. And I'll I'll tell them, like, nowhere, nowhere in the public area can you do that. Maybe where you're from they let you, but you know, just don't and we posted signs, no open containers of alcohol, no smoking marijuana in public, and a f and a few other things that no glass containers on the strip, because that's one thing that can turn dangerous fast. Also, just the enormous amounts of trash from that many people down there. A few things that we're just trying to get a handle on. We're looking at the possibility of changing like our amplified noise ordinance. So it's just again, so that somebody's not just down there cranking up their music, having their own side party.

SPEAKER_04 29:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Go inside one of these establishments. They've spent tons of money preparing these places for people like you to go. Exactly. And that's kind of what we're hoping to encourage.

Businesses And Police Working Together

SPEAKER_06 30:06

That's good.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

And then Joe, we uh we had George on the podcast a couple weeks ago, and he was talking about the new place down there at the end of the strip. And that's just I think that's gonna drive a lot more day traffic down there. I think so. We're really excited about that.

SPEAKER_06 30:16

I mean, it is kind of nice. I mean, the strip, you know, back in the day was a really big place to be and go. And you saw all the pictures of everyone hanging out down there and driving, you know, up and down and they're f and then it kind of died off and it really didn't happen, and now it's kind of back.

SPEAKER_04 30:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:30

So I mean, it it is nice to see just because it's like our little downtown area, but I'm it does and there's a lot going on.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

Well, George has helped too during the day with like the malted monkey and then even Ozark Live type stuff, like you know, where there's like stuff for families to do too.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

So yeah, it's kind of like he's doing a great job of of really just bringing like a nicer upscale element to what he's doing. And he's not the only one, but you you know, the things, the projects that he involves himself in, he's he doesn't write. You know, and he spends the effort and the money to try to mitigate the problems. He works with us very well. I mean, he he's very good to us. Matter of fact, he just donated a truck to us that we're gonna be using it's like a box truck that they had been using as their job office for that project that you're talking about down at the end of the strip. And I guess at some point over the winter there was a fire in the back of the truck, and so they had to gut it and start rebuilding it, and then he got them a new job office, and so that was sitting on the back lot, and I drove by it on Memorial Day weekend. I'm like, what is this? This could really be useful for us down on the strip when we're writing tickets and things like that. So I called him up and I said, Hey, what's going on with this truck? And he said, Well, go look at it and tell me if you think it could be useful. And then he turned around and donated it to us. Wow. And so yeah, I mean, he he again, just the cooperation with people like him, we're all trying to achieve the same thing down there. You know, of course he's a businessman and there's others, you know, their bottom dollar and their bottom line is different than ours, but it when we work together, everybody wins down there. Yeah, yeah. And that's really what we're hoping to accomplish.

Event Planning And Traffic Control Shifts

SPEAKER_02 31:57

Aaron Powell, how much part of the event planning, like if they're doing a big event, or is is it like you know, that group, you know, deciding what happens and then you you know deal with it? Are you guys like heavily involved with like how they plan the event out or what the dates or how does that work?

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Each event down there is done by a different event organizer, mostly. And so from your boat race to your bike fest to your car show, they're all different organizers. But we try to maintain some some of the same guidelines, kind of. And then some of them want open container restrictions lifted, and some of them don't want that for their event. And so each of them are a little bit different, but yeah, we're heavily involved in like what we'll allow and what we'll kind of let them, you know, what we require that they handle. One thing that we've changed over the years recently is five or four years ago, probably the PD did all the traffic directing at both ends. When we close off the strip and we open that detour, the PD was the only ones that did traffic control. Uh it was a huge strain on our manpower because you had to have somebody there all day long for, you know, it's probably a 12 or 15 hour event. And so somebody, you know, probably two people at each end, and and they can't, you can't just put one or two officers there for the whole day. And so you gotta rotate them. It was a major strain on our manpower. And so one thing that we've shifted into is the event organizers now have to bring their own traffic control, and it's gotta be good. I mean, it can't just be, you know, I don't know, your cousin that says he'll show up. Maybe if your cousin's good at it, you know, but if they're not cutting it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

An old lady sleeping in the lawn chair.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

If they're not cutting it, we're gonna have to swap them out, you know, bring somebody else in here because we got to get this traffic moving. But they've done a really and some event organizers are better than others at finding those volunteers, but they all they all try really hard and eventually, you know, we'll get it handled. And and obviously we'll send an officer up there if it gets really congested or if there's a problem. But that's one thing we've adjusted a little bit over the years, and we've just kind of asked them, like, if you want to have your event, here's the things that you have to have lined up. And it's been working.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

Yeah, everyone's doing a killer job down there. Yeah, because like with the kids on guide, like you look like almost every other weekend with the car shows, shoot up, or like it's something going down there all the time.

SPEAKER_05 34:06

Always something, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

It's sweet. And it's like, you know, when we lived in Key West, you have a Duvall Street where you can bounce around all the bars. That's why I think everybody likes it so much. It's you know, like if you're driving someplace, you drive out to like, you know, some bar on the outskirts and you don't like the band, you're like gonna stay here. You get a 30-minute drive.

SPEAKER_06 34:21

And then it's like an hour-long drive. Yeah, they're gonna be. It literally is like Main Street, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

Yeah. But now it's like even like Roxy's and stuff, you see those lines at those bars or at Alley Cats, and those weren't there before.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

Oh, Roxy's just killing it. Luke. I know Luke's. And those guys over there, they are doing a fabulous job. And and what's interesting about that is, you know, they're trying hard to do it right. Luke's at the gate every single night checking IDs, wearing a security shirt. You know, and he's the owner of that establishment. And I love to see that when you have the such a hands-on approach, you know. He's got a lot invested in that. And uh, you know, again, like you said earlier, if somebody goes in his bar and messes up, that could cost him a lot of money or any of those bar owners down there. And so, again, just another example of us working very closely with these bar owners and and whether or not they're down there all night, it doesn't there's a few of them that are like that. Well, they'll be working late at their bars, and it just having that, you know, first name basis cooperation with them, man, it goes a long way for them and us. Yeah.

How Filming Works All Summer

SPEAKER_02 35:18

We uh uh like so obviously there's like you know, camera crews and stuff with the show. Did those people live here for like do they rent a place here? Are they just down for like a couple weeks or like where they're here out of here?

SPEAKER_01 35:29

Yeah, no, they do hire one or two semi-locals or locals or or almost locals, but the majority of their crew they fly in from all over the United States and they house them all summer long. And so they come probably a week before Memorial Day and they'll stay till right after Bike Fest. Cool gear. And and they house them, you know, and they they rent apartments or condos for them and just make sure they and they have to have vehicles and things like that. And so it's a major, you know, major investment for that production company to try to make sure that everything's going smooth. And they have people on the ground just here to manage the crew and make sure, you know, expenses are paid and you know, equipment that they need is is here and it's it's a big deal.

SPEAKER_06 36:10

And um how many days do you guys film for the show?

SPEAKER_01 36:14

They're usually I think if I remember right, they're they work Wednesday through Sunday. They have Monday and Tuesday off.

SPEAKER_04 36:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Now, if they need to change that, you know, for an event that's going on, yeah, it seems like they're willing to do that. But they've kind of found a rhythm that they think works, you know, and they they come in mostly in like the afternoon and they'll stay until you know after the bar close in an effort to try to get a little bit of everything going on, you know, and that's one of the things this year that was discussed is you know, is there a way to maybe showcase some more of what's happening at the lake other than just like bars and the strip and things like that? And I think that's one thing they wanted to try to do also. You just have to be able to do it in a creative way, yeah. You know, because there's there's a couple ways to look at it. You know, they're a production company, their job is to make TV that people want to watch.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Right.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Obviously, when you have some drunk guy that's saying silly and funny things or running from the cops, that's that's gonna be fun to watch. You know, but they also want to try to do it in a way, it seems like what they've communicated is they want to try to do it in the way that the locals want them back. And if the locals don't want them back, they don't get a season three or four or five or whatever it may be. So they may have great viewing, you know, ratings from viewers all over the country, but if locals don't want them here, then there's no more than that.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

I thought they did a great job with that. Or make oh, I said I thought they'd done a great job with that, making it like look the lake look good and make you guys look good without making all of us look stupid together. Which, you know, it's it could happen.

SPEAKER_06 37:42

So I was wondering about like, you know, because we're such a boating water community and curious, like, would they ever shift to because I don't see a whole lot of water patrol.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

I think they would love to if they had the chance. Okay. Yeah. And so I don't know, maybe.

SPEAKER_05 37:59

Like who they have to jump through for that since it's like you're the state. Yeah. But I think that would I mean that's a pretty big part of our area.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

I think that'd be a really neat element to show, you know.

SPEAKER_02 38:08

The wild thing to film on a camp.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Well, and if you think about it, there is very I mean, how many other lakes do you know of that that deal with what we deal with, you know, on a good and bad level? And so to have that element on the show, I think that'd be huge. Yeah. It would be really neat to see if they could pull it off someday.

SPEAKER_06 38:24

I hope they would. Yeah, let's do it. Start a petition, maybe I don't know. Where do I sign?

The Lake Season Keeps Expanding

SPEAKER_06 38:31

Anna's out there.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

So we always say like in real estate now, it's like it used to be like Memorial Day to Labor Day would be, you know, and now I feel like it's almost like St. Patrick's Day, it's a Halloween. Like you see like that, and it's just a lot busier, a lot longer now.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

It is, and and like you said, St. Patrick's Day is almost it's like the unofficial kickoff these days. Yeah, you know what we always have. Now we all know Memorial Day is the real start, but St. Patrick's Day, uh, and even I would even say pub crawl. You know, it's not quite what it used to be, right? But it's still like you've been through a long hard winter, and now there's a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel, you know, the weather's starting to change, and so St. Patrick's Day just kind of like cranks everything up, and and really by Memorial Day.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

She loves parades.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Parades are your thing, huh? Wow. We have some interesting parades here. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 39:26

Not on the street though.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

Very excited about parades. Just at my feet. Yeah. T Jam about. But yeah, I mean, what I think what you're saying is accurate. We're starting to see, you know, less, you know, strictly tourism season and a little more kind of overspill on both ends of that. It's starting to get a little more year-round. You know, we're not quite there yet, but we're getting there.

SPEAKER_06 39:46

Yeah. As the lake just keeps evolving with certain things.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

Not to mention Chick-fil-A's coming. I mean, what does that tell you? No.

SPEAKER_06 39:54

It tells me other things.

SPEAKER_02 39:54

Yeah, right. Exactly. No, but I mean, every place kind of sucks in, you know, December, January, and people are doing family stuff with Christmas. So people are like, you know, the lake's kind of slow in January. I'm like, what is them? I can go anywhere else. So besides everybody's a little bit, you know, more low-key. But we're gonna like it, you know.

SPEAKER_06 40:11

It's a little nice for us.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

It is a nice little kind of breath of fresh air and reprieve, if you will. If it was like right now, all year round, I'd be in trouble. So yeah. Yeah, you'd be locked up.

SPEAKER_05 40:24

This would probably be real if it was real or big bugs.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Is there any like laws down here that would help you guys out, or is there any stuff that like you guys could change that would be like, oh man, if this passes, this would make our lives easier or anything like that?

Noise Limits And A Juvenile Curfew

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Yeah, there's a few things that we're looking into to just kind of what I've been saying all summer is we're looking at like incremental changes we can make, mostly to kind of tame what we're seeing down on the strip. You know, you mentioned years ago the strip was a big deal. You know, the only reason we have a city of Lake Ozark and a police department is because of what problems the strip brought. If you read some of the history books back in 1966 was the year they incorporated the city of Lake Ozark and made a police department, it's because of the problems they were having on the strip. And and law they were they had a need for law enforcement down there, and so they opted to make a police department and uh, you know, a city and all that. Uh and that's a wide overview of all that process. But we're it's interesting how history kind of comes back around because the problems they had then, which is the reason we have a police department, are the same problems we're having now in the same part of town, you know. And and I don't know even calling it a problem is is fair. It's just a challenge, you know. That is a really historic and neat place down there on the strip. And there's you know, we go down there and we see people every weekend having a great time, and most of them are doing it safely and doing it properly and having fun. There, you know, a few times, you know, a weekend we might have a fight or something like that. And every couple of years we might have something serious, you know. But for the most part, this is a a really neat and unique place. And for us, there are a few things that we're just trying to incrementally change to just make sure it remains a safe and unique place that people can come and enjoy their time. And one thing we're gonna try to present to the Board of Alderman soon is you know, maybe a proposal for, like I said, we're gonna adjust the noise ordinance a little bit. We don't want the bars to have to like stop what they're doing. We just want to make sure it's at a a level that's not obnoxious, you know, in the middle of the road. Whatever they do inside their bar, I don't I don't mind at all. You know, that's I'm not gonna try to change that. The other thing we're noticing, we talked about like the juveniles that are just hordes of them on the strip. And you can of course I'm getting older, you know, I'm getting ready to turn 43, but they they look younger and younger. And I look around, I'm like, why is that person down here at midnight? You know, they look 16, and some of them are, you know, we'll check some IDs depending on what's going on. And so one of the things that we'd like to try to ask the aldermen to pass is a juvenile curfew. And so we're we're looking at it now to see what that might look like. They do it in other places. I was just at Seaside a couple months ago, and they have signboards up with juvenile curfew laws posted, and they have cops posted every 300 yards with their lights on, just as a concurrent.

SPEAKER_06 43:14

But it's like it's not to be a fun hater for juveniles, it's more like we're keeping you safe. Because you honestly, I mean, when people are drinking and all the things are happening, listen, I wouldn't want my 16-year-old down drink with all of that.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

One of the first weekends of the summer, there was a group of teenagers young walking up the strip, and a fight broke out in the same little spot, and a 16-year-old girl got hit in the side of the face. Wasn't even involved.

SPEAKER_06 43:36

Right.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

But honestly had no business being down there. Right. It it wasn't her fault other than that she was, you know, walking in that area.

SPEAKER_06 43:44

It's that's smart to to kind of do present because Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

And to your point, it's an effort to try to protect them, but it also removes an element of our problem. Yeah. You know, even if it was only fifteen or twenty percent of our problem, that's less of an issue that we have to deal with when we're trying to just maintain Some sense of order and peace down there and safety.

SPEAKER_05 44:02

Right.

Getting Kicked Out And Repeat Offenders

SPEAKER_05 44:03

Is that is it illegal to be wet in place?

SPEAKER_02 44:07

No. We had a uh it's not, is it? No. We had a uh not that I've ever read about anyway. We've had a we had a discussion about how wet you can be in a in a mistake. I thought it was pretty wet on Sunday. I just was soaked in some stuff. But if you w if someone walks into this is really stupid, if someone walks into like a bar and they're like dripping wet, I mean that just kind of is what it is, right? I mean, yeah, it's not illegal.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

However, I mean they don't have to let you remain. At that point, it could become illegal if they say leave and you don't leave.

SPEAKER_06 44:36

Hey guy, you're really wet. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

We have a lot of that. People get really a bar or someplace will come and ask us to remove somebody. Yeah. And then they're mad at us. Yeah. We're like, hey guy, it's we didn't ask for you to be removed. They asked us to get you out of their bar, and and it's their decision.

SPEAKER_06 44:52

I love when people watching the shows and everything. And they're they have like, they're like, I didn't do anything. Like what they have no clue what or why. And I'm like, well, that I mean they're not.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

You will tomorrow. Like, watch the video.

SPEAKER_06 45:03

Rotate something.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

Usually when you wake up, you're like, ah, it might have been a little out of hand.

SPEAKER_01 45:08

Yeah. Yeah. We we get a lot of that. And when we see repeats, you know, like we might deal with them on Friday, and then Saturday they come back and some of them apologize. They'll come up to us and be like, hey, I was really sorry. I'm really sorry how I acted last night. I was out live.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

Have you ever run into something where like you've arrested somebody for doing something stupid, and then like Saturday you see them again, and then Sunday you gotta be like, dude, you're killing me.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

Yeah, you do. And you get to some of these people you get on like a first name basis, not because you're trying to like hang out. But yeah, exactly. But because it's like, what are you doing down here again tonight? You know, or the funnier part is like you see them around town. Of course, you know, we all live here, we all shop at the same stores, or like, you know, I might work, you know, Friday and Saturday I'm out there till like two or three in the morning, depending on what it is. But I got to be to church and I've got responsibilities there on Sunday morning at 7 a.m. And because I'm on staff there, and and so sometimes you see people like whether it's at the grocery store or maybe at church, you're like, I know what are you? I know what you've been up to, you know. I'm not saying I'm judging, I'm just saying, like, make sure you're keeping yourself in line next time. You know, it's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_05 46:18

Yeah, it'd

Coffee Orders And On Duty Snacks

SPEAKER_05 46:19

be hilarious. My uh my uncle is he works in the police force in Denver, and his favorite snack to keep in his car are watermelon sour patch kids. Do you have a snack in your car that you like to keep?

SPEAKER_01 46:31

Coffee, you know. I mean, literally, I drink coffee all day, every day. Hot or cold, it doesn't matter. What's your order all year? Say what? What's your order? This is honey and Himalayan salt.

SPEAKER_05 46:41

Oh, that one's cool.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

And I'm very specific because, you know, of course, my daughter runs a coffee shop, and so oftentimes I'll go there and I'll just make my own. And when they're busy, she hates it because she's like, Dad, you gotta leave. Yeah. You're getting kicked out. We're yeah, we're busy here. We're doing work. But I know exactly like how I want to make it now because her and I and and her husband Aiden, we like built the place, and so we were all kind of learning at the same time how this you know coffee stuff was happening. And so now I'm like one of those coffee snobs, and I'll go to a coffee shop and I'm like, hey, can I get 26 grams of honey? And a healthy and a healthy amount of Himalayan salt, and most of them look at me like I'm crazy. Right. And I'm like, can you chance I can just come back there and whip that up real quick?

SPEAKER_02 47:24

Where is thread lancing? Because you guys talk about it all the time. I don't think I've been there yet. It's down on the strip.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

Yeah, uh it's in the building of the frog. You go in and hook a left. Her, Aubrey, and Aiden, they opened almost a year ago. Yeah. And and they're just killing it. Honestly, to the point of like Fridays and Saturdays, there's gonna be a line out the door.

SPEAKER_06 47:42

Yeah, I mean, there's not really a there's you know, restaurants and stuff, but not a coffee shop.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

So Yeah, and and there's we have several, you know, good coffee shops in the area, but there's none on the strip. And I think honestly, even if there was more, they would all do well. Right. And not that I want there to be more. But they're they're doing so good, you know, and then they're only serving coffee. And they're it's like a place you go on vacation and you look up the best coffee places, and then you wait 20 or 30 minutes to get in the door. That's exactly what's happening, and proud of them because they're working their butts off. Yeah, yeah. But it's also great coffee, not just because it's my daughter, but it's just great coffee. And they get it out of a roastery in Springfield, and yeah, that's great people to work with down there. And and again, it kind of like I have to go somewhere and you know, like mix and match my drink just to make sure I get something similar, if they don't let me make it myself, and they don't, you know.

SPEAKER_05 48:36

It's also nice that you can get in a can because then you can do a couple for the next few days. Put it in a cooler.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

We did that the other day. We were going out on the boat and we had Aubrey can us up some coffees and we threw them in the cooler. It was perfect. It's like I don't even know you could do that.

SPEAKER_06 48:48

Well, it's like an ice coffee. Like you don't put the ice in it and you could just like yeah, it comes in like a little plastic and it has a can topper.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

That's sweet.

SPEAKER_06 48:55

So then really, yeah, you just get it cold and then it's worth your time.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

Yeah, it's I'd be worried if I had a fleece car and I was doing that, and my car would be just there'd be too many snacks in there. Coffee cups everywhere, cans, yeah. Sunflower seeds would be an issue.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

I used to do a lot, you were asking about snacks. I used to do a lot of sunflower seeds. Sunflower seeds. My favorite is the taco, the taco bell sunflower seeds. It's the best.

SPEAKER_05 49:16

I've never had Swift and I eat those a lot when we golf.

SPEAKER_01 49:18

Yeah. That's that's golf car is usually pretty trash. Corn nuts. I love corn nuts. My wife Heather hates corn nuts. She hates the smell of them. Yeah. We're on a road trip, that's that's what gets me by. You know, if I'm starting to get sleepy or something, crunching on some corn nuts, everybody in the car hates it.

SPEAKER_02 49:34

I'd be worried about like arresting someone and then them being handcuffs and be like, I got some of those corn nuts. It's your own corn nuts, man. Exactly. Maybe maybe later. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:43

When you're out of jail. You're in trouble right now. You can't have it.

SPEAKER_02 49:48

Yeah. It's time out.

SPEAKER_06 49:49

Yeah.

Catchphrases And The Love You Bye Story

SPEAKER_02 49:50

So there's seasons two now, but you said they're talking about a season three or like so they're filming for season three. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

But you know, it's it's production. And so you're working with a production company and a network. Yeah. And so at any time, I guess if the network decided they didn't want it, you know, they could just not air it. But yeah, they're filming for a season three. So I would assume it'll air, but I guess you never really know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 50:10

Have you seen like so with the show and and filming on the show? And then just like your normal, you know, day-to-day your job that you're doing, because you're not filming all the time. Has there been something that was caught on film that's the craziest, or do you have like the one of like the craziest stories of you know just something really crazy? Like while filming? Yeah. Or or not. Or has the craziest happened while not filming?

SPEAKER_02 50:35

There's probably like something like somebody'll say something when they're getting arrested, and you're like, that's gonna make the show, or just something really silly or something really.

SPEAKER_01 50:41

Well it is, I mean, I wouldn't call it crazy, yeah. But it is kind of funny what they pick up in the in the post-production side or post-filming side, I should say. They'll they'll pick up like little one-liners that we've said, and then that'll become like on the trailer or something. Yeah. I think season one, I guess, is when they had me saying it's go time. Yeah. You know, and I don't even remember like when we said that, when I said that, you know, but I would like go through Starbucks and they would write, It's go time on the cover. And it was kind of funny, you know, because again, like it was on the 30-second, you know, trailer of the of the show. Yeah, it was a little hook. And then this year, they were season two, they were using when uh Sergeant Cordula said love you by, you know, which is something we've said at our department for years. I mean for years and years, and then it just kind of has hung around. And there's a there's a neat little story to it, but it started, I don't know, 20 years ago. And then one of the guys that was working security, his mom and dad owned a campground, his name was Casey Shoemate, and his brother is still in law enforcement in this area, his name is Nick Shoemate, and Casey and Nick were doing some security for his mom and dad's campground. And so they would hang around us a little bit because we were always down there, you know, answering calls or or hanging out. And Casey developed an interest for law enforcement, and so he would ride along with us a lot, and then he went to the academy and then he got picked up by a neighboring agency. I think he started at Eldon and then went to work for Miller County. But because we always said lovey bye, he started saying love you bye. And then when he went to work for those two agencies, he just kind of took it wherever he went. And then all the agencies, you know, in our close area would would say love you bye, at least to each other. Yeah. And and it kind of just spread. So it became quickly a thing that Casey was known about. And then he died on duty one day. And and so even at his funeral, you know, we had love you by. And so it really quickly became a thing that we kind of attributed to him because you know, he may not have started it, but he really spread it. Yeah. And and so now, like Cordula never worked here with Casey, you know, but all these years later, it's still hanging around and it's you know, so it's a normal, it's a staple in our department.

SPEAKER_05 52:48

If I ever get in trouble, I'm just like, okay, love you bye. Love you by, yeah.

Ride Alongs And Radio Professionalism

SPEAKER_05 52:51

Do you guys ever do it on the radios or uh no?

SPEAKER_01 52:55

You know, I'm uh I am kind of a stickler like professionalism on the radio. And again, I don't want to be a fun hater, but man, there's a line. You know, just keep it, keep it professional. You know, you get some of those officers that they just keep talking. Yeah, keep talking. It's like you would just be on my can I get more. Exactly. Key up, say what you gotta say, and then put the radio down, buddy. Anybody need more comments?

SPEAKER_06 53:17

Do you guys ever do like, I mean, is it people that have an interest in law enforcement, or have you given just ride alongs with anyone that's kind of it kind of depends.

SPEAKER_01 53:26

We're I would say we're fairly selective. Yeah. We don't have a strict policy. I think there are some agencies where you know, like almost anybody can ride. They probably have to go through a background check and things like that, but then they only get so many rides ever. Yeah. And then after you've exceeded that many, you you don't get a ride anymore. You can go to the academy if you want, but you don't do ride anymore.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

That's enough.

SPEAKER_01 53:46

For us, it's it is kind of focused on do you have an interest in law enforcement or maybe you're working on a project or something. Or I think one of the restrictions we have right now with ride-alongs is we do have a a film crew with most of our officers that are on duty, or at least some of them. And so for instance, if if you're an officer and you have the film crew with you and you arrest somebody, well, the film crew probably is gonna have to get out. And so they're gonna have to get in with somebody else. So therefore, you know, if we only have two or three officers on a night, uh we're we don't have room for you know around along. Occasionally we still can work it out, you know. Especially if we have somebody interested in law enforcement. We really want them to kind of get in and see what they might get into, you know, before they take the plunge.

Rideshare After Bar Close And Safety

SPEAKER_02 54:27

Speaking of rides, I think that the lake's done better about like because of Ubers and Lyfts, transportation. Because for even like two years ago or three years ago, you'd be leaving a bar and try to go home and you couldn't. Like there was no cabs, you'd hit there and the Uber just spin and nothing. And now I feel like even you can like pre-schedule rides or even like I love catered like ride at bar close when after that Sasquatch show. There was Uber just I'm like, no way, this is awesome.

SPEAKER_06 54:50

So but I feel like that's it's gotten a lot better.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

It has gotten better, and I I think there is a lot of room for improvement. That is a lot of the problems we have after bar closing. It's gotta be is that you have hundreds of people that would love to leave, yeah, and they just don't have a ride out of there, you know. Or we have a need for so many more Ubers, taxis, uh, you know, lifts, whatever it is, and they might get like four minutes away and then they get canceled. And so that is a point of frustration for a lot of people down there because you know, they've been down there drinking all night, they're ready to go home, they can't get back into the bars, and now they can't. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What I've noticed though, the last couple of weekends, it seems like it's a big improvement. Like I feel the other day, usually what happens at bar clothes, you know, 10 or 15 minutes before, they'll start closing the bars down so all the people come outside and there's you know limited space for them to stand. So you got this big crowd, they're waiting on their rides, they're ready to go home, somebody in their party is starting to act up, and so you know, they're trying their best to keep the lid on it. Yeah, they just can't get a ride. And so they might be down there till 2 or 2.30 in the morning waiting. The last couple of weeks, I've been looking around, I'm like, wow, it's like 145 and people are starting to clear it relatively quickly. I hope that continues for the rest of the summer, because that's huge for us to just try to ensure you know everybody gets out of there safely, there's no big fights, and if there is something, it's a lot easier to handle if it's not right, you know, 7,000 people down there.

SPEAKER_02 56:19

I think some like everyone just like like if you're renting a place like way up on the North Shore or somewhere and then you go to the strip and you're like, I'll just get an Uber at 130, it's like not gonna happen. Good luck planning ahead. So yeah, but no, I think it's getting a lot better. I think so too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:32

It's nice.

SPEAKER_02 56:33

Gotta get home safe.

SPEAKER_05 56:34

For sure. Love that. Don't drink and drive. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

For sure. Good shout out. It's good advice for anybody, anywhere. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:42

Words of wisdom. Well, I mean, duh. That's why duh.

SPEAKER_01 56:46

Duh.

SPEAKER_05 56:46

Duh.

SPEAKER_01 56:47

It's expensive. It's dangerous.

SPEAKER_05 56:49

Yeah, no, that's my biggest pet peep, actually.

Ticket Excuses And Nerves On Stops

SPEAKER_05 56:51

What's the craziest way someone's tried to get out of a ticket? Oh, yeah. We're in trouble. Your favorite like excuse when someone pulls you, you pull someone over a big thing.

SPEAKER_02 56:58

I mean, I'm sure you've had the.

SPEAKER_05 56:59

Well, my my dog's dying at the bed and I have to go right now. It's like, no. I gotta go to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_01 57:05

Yeah, you do have some of those people that are like, I really am trying to go to the bathroom. You know, but the the problem is like, I don't want to give any secrets away, but how do you verify? Yeah. You know, like I don't I don't want to be the reason you're like a like a little kid, you're checking a tiger like I don't want to be the reason you don't get, you know, there safely. Yeah. That could be a bad day. Think about that, don't you? For several people.

SPEAKER_02 57:29

Yeah. Right? Everybody's like putting a note in their phone.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

I found out I can be whatever they want to be, so just I I feel like you know, there is a certain type that just kind of naturally go towards law enforcement. And some of those people probably don't care. You know, they they don't really care if you gotta go to the bathroom or not. Yeah. You should have handled that before you got in the car.

SPEAKER_05 57:53

That's an issue, not an issue.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

Yep. Before you stole that hat or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 57:57

Yeah, that's no, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

I can't think of honestly, uh I don't have much to go on there. I don't I can't think of any crazy excuses. You know, you have you have a lot of officers that are like, oh, as soon as they cry, I'm ranting a ticket. And I'm like, eh, I don't know. We I don't really, I don't really go that way because sometimes it is just nerve-wracking to be pulled over. You know, I've been pulled over plenty of times. And and I don't like it any more than the next person because usually uh even if I don't like it, I realize I've done something I shouldn't have. You're in trouble.

SPEAKER_06 58:27

You you like almost revert back to being a kid and you're like, I'm in trouble. Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 58:31

And so some people's reaction, you know, even sometimes my wife, you know, we've been doing this now for over 20 years and she doesn't like getting pulled over. You know, she might she might start crying.

SPEAKER_04 58:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

Has she ever seen something on the show and like watched it and been like, you were kind of mean to that guy? Or she ever like criticized you from the show or say anything?

SPEAKER_01 58:48

Not really. Occasionally, you know, she she'll make fun of me or something, you know, if I if I look goofy, but it's it's all been

Body Cams And Treating People Well

SPEAKER_01 58:54

pretty fun. And and you know, also we have a chance to uh we have to view all the episodes before they're aired, just for accuracy and things like that. We don't have you know, we can't necessarily tell them what to edit, but we can certainly lean into you know some of our concerns or if there's something uh for safety reasons, you know, that we can't have on there, or if there's a pending case that we don't want aired just yet, then they will certainly, you know, listen to that. But for the most part, you know, at least for accuracy purposes, we get a chance to check. And if there's something that, you know, is gonna be you know, an officer says something just really dumb or just inaccurate, it uh it's a nice way for me to kind of like of course we have body cams, we do this as well, but we might have to go back and address something, you know, like hey what I heard you say something that maybe we need to talk about. Yeah. And for me, uh I was just gonna say for me though, uh body cams or just watching people on film is a really good way just to kind of get a look at how our officers are treating people. You know, I've I've been saying for a long time, I I really want our officers just to treat people like people. You know, like you would want your wife or your kids or your grandma, you know, to be treated by an officer they had an encounter with. Because I think it's easy for law enforcement to I don't know, start to just kind of have a negative outlook on things because they're dealing with all the bad all all day long, you know? And and you're also dealing with a lot of people who just aren't happy to see you, no matter what you're doing. And even if you're doing your job right, you know, you're dealing with people that either disagree or they're not happy to see you because you just pull them over for doing something they shouldn't have been doing. Or maybe it's even worse, maybe you show up at a domestic violence situation where the last person some of those people want to see is a cop. Even if they're a victim. Or or it could be drugs or something like that. And so unfortunately, the officers, you know, they're not dealing with most people on their best day. They're dealing with a lot of people on their worst day. Right. And so it's easy to kind of get this natural negative outlook on society when you're dealing with all everybody on their worst day. Right. You know, because you just you assume the worst in a lot of people. And so, you know, you try to help them not. Yeah. Because you know, most people are still good.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:15

It's that separation of like work and and you know, media life, yeah, leaving it there.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

Yeah, that's part about the show because it shows how likable all you guys are, and it's a little bit more. Because at the end of the day, like we're all just trying to have tourists come in here and have a good time, be safe, get out of here, tell somebody else they had a good time, come down. It just helps all of us. So it's kind of everybody working together, so for sure.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:33

I'd love to see your guys as like blooper reel or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:35

Yeah, you know, I wondered. I always wondered if they put one together, like if Oh, they found it somewhere. I'm sure they do somewhere, you know. Like put that together and and let us see how that would turn out. But probably really well, actually.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:49

I don't know. I'd probably be scared to see what came out of that.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:53

Well, listen.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:54

If you're on camera long enough, you just want to come

Guns And Hoses And Community Trust

SPEAKER_02 1:01:56

to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:56

Did you guys uh make it to the guns and hoses tournament?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:58

We did. I heard about it when I was looking up the stuff, but so we we've done it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

That's awesome. Yeah. This was the first year in like maybe 10 or 13 years that we've done it. And it's just uh, you know, a competition between us and the fire department to try to raise funds for both of our associations. Yeah. And uh we've never won. The police department has never won one of those games. I thought this year was the year, you know, because we had we we even brought up backup, like my son Marshall, who's a basketball player, Cordula's son, JP, he's a basketball player, Newhart's son. We all like Ty, Marshall and JP, uh, we thought they were gonna they're gonna push us over the edge. And and the fire department got us by like eight points. I think in the last 30 seconds we were down to like a two or three point game, and then they they just took it away. Do you just do it once a year?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:45

You do that?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:45

We well, we used to, and this is the first year in in over a decade that we've done it. And we're gonna try to put it back in the normal rotation because it's fun to bring community in. And uh we raised a ton of money. I think they raised almost 30 grand. That's that we'll split. You know, of course, we have you know, we had to pay money out for a few things that we did, but it was a great way to you know loop the community into some of the fun. And again, just an effort to let them see the officers and the firefighters both kind of you know in a relaxed environment, you know, kind of low-key. Yeah. I would say around here, that is typically not the case.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

We have had a wonderful relationship with the Lake Ozark Fire for as long as I've been here.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:28

You know, well, they're the first responders on stuff sometimes because there'd be like stuff at Shitty Gators where someone would, you know, break their ankle and the fire truck would show up and you're like, well, they're not on fire. But this person's training.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

It was a good time though. That was a that was a neat event. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:43

Yeah. We can maybe help you market it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:45

Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna try to do it in the spring next year. It was a little it was like late spring, early summer this year. I think this year we did it in April. Where's the game? Or where was the We did it at the Heritage Elementary down there in Lake Ozark, which is kind of cool because it's cool, you know. It's a neat little gymnasium that's been there forever. Yeah. Hopefully we grow it to the size, you know, that we can maybe have to grow out of that. Madison Square Garden. That's right. You never know. We'll fly everybody out. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:10

Well, if you ever do anything like a foot race, maybe you can get this guy in there. Are you likes to race people?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:17

Are you fast? You get new shoes?

unknown 1:04:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:20

Oh, yeah, it's like a runny joke, but we'll we'll be at bars and we'll uh race people. I I'm getting old, so I kind of should stop because I'm gonna heal. You gotta push the knee or something. I know, it's coming. So yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:31

But uh He is fast though, I will say.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:33

He is really fast. He'll call me out and I'm seven and oh and I last seven races. Seven and oh. But I I should probably stop. What's your secret? I don't just try my heart. Yeah.

unknown 1:04:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:44

I was watching one someone that's like taken off running, and you've been like, oh man, yeah, this guy looks kind of fast.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:50

You know, like I was watching one of the episodes, I think, season one, and one of the officers, I can't remember who it was, but he there was a bachelor party and he had like a checklist on his shirt, all the stuff he had to do, you know, and they it was race a cop. Yeah, foot race a cop. And so he That was a funny episode. But the but the but the one of the kids, the friends they were running, and one of their friends just hits the wall.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:13

Ran straight into the wall.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

Straight in the wall. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

It looked like serious physical injury.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

Like you could hear it. Like a like a Wiley Coyote thing. Yeah, yeah. He's like veered off.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:23

He's running, and the officer and these two guys are like, okay, they're good. This guy, I don't know what he was doing. He just runs straight into like the corner of this the wall.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:32

It's probably good for officer. That was Officer Huff. He works for Cole County now. But uh it was probably good for him because I think he was about to lose. At least he didn't get last place.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:43

So he was huffing the other guy was puffing that wall. That's right. He's a good dude. I'm glad he but that's the kind of hurt, but that's the kind of like interaction though. Like obviously we can't just be down there having, you know, goofing off all night long. Right. But uh a few like lighthearted, down-to-earth interactions with people is really what our off I want our officers uh looking for. You know, again, we're not always gonna be able to do that, but occasionally just getting down to earth with people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:09

That's de-escalates stuff, like you were saying, if they see you earlier and then I think like other people there have your back and they're like, hey guys, like you gotta check out or something. These guys are actually okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:17

You know, respect, as you should, like always, you know, have respect, but shriek cred as a cred, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:24

But like you said though, it's earned, you know, and and especially nowadays, just because you put a uniform on does not mean you're gonna be respected, you know, and sometimes that's valid. Yeah. You know, un it's unfortunate, but there is an element to law enforcement that has not held the standard where it should have been, you know. And and so you gotta go back there and and re-earn that every time. I think when we go out, especially to the the areas with the the large crowds, when we can't just go down there expecting everybody to believe that we're you know doing everything upright and honest. I mean, it'd be nice if we could, but you do have to go down there and kind of earn their trust and respect every time, you know, it's another weekend.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:04

Mm-hmm. You've you've seen like you guys you have a great group of, you know, I'm sure there's more too that we don't see on the show, maybe, but you guys are gonna do that. We do have a great group running up a nice ship down there, so that's that's

Final Thoughts And Sign Off

SPEAKER_06 1:07:17

good. And and we appreciate your your service and everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:19

Well, thank you very much. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:22

And thanks Osage Beach Nutrition for giving us hype this whole sesh. I got a blue drink because blue is the color of cops.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:29

Oh, and a blue shirt. Yeah. And it's 4th of July.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:33

Like wait, how many times have you been pulled over? Are you trying to get out another ticket here? No, I've gotten pulled over twice and I've gotten a ticket two times.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:41

Oh, and two. Yep, two.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:42

One time I got pulled over and I was having an allergic reaction, and that was really embarrassing.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

So I were allergic to getting pulled over? And the other times he had to go to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:51

And he thought I was like Yeah. That's the secret.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:56

What was the other one for, though, really?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:58

Miss Peding both times. Oh. And I'm not gonna say where it was, but just kidding. Dead giveaway. Yeah. It's fine. Just follow the law and then you don't have anything to claim about.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

People easy peasy. Just like that. Yeah, we're cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:16

All right. Well, check us out next time and we'll see you later.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:20

Peace out.