Finding Strength in Standing Out with Sadie Hull

Sadie Hull may be preparing for Miss Utah, but her story goes far beyond the stage. In this episode of The Stand4Kind Podcast, Sadie shares the unexpected path from achieving her childhood dream of becoming Miss Pleasant Grove 2025 to stepping into a much bigger opportunity with Miss Utah. Along the way, she opens up about overcoming fear, dealing with bullying, and learning to keep moving forward even in difficult moments.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

What if the thing that makes you feel different is actually your greatest strength? Today on the Stand for Kind podcast, we're talking with Sadie Hall, a singer, author, mental health advocate, and current Miss Pleasant Girl, competing for Miss Utah in just a few months. From writing a children's book about autism to using her voice to uplift others, Sadie shares how she's learned to embrace who she is, overcome life's challenges, and inspire others to do the same. If you've ever struggled to fit in or wondered if you were enough, this conversation's for you. Okay, Miss Sadie Hall, thank you so much for being here on the Stand for Kind podcast. I cannot believe you're sitting here this time. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

I'm so excited to be here.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Okay, I first want to ask you just a very simple question. Who is Sadie today, in your own words? Because you wear mini hats.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Oh, thank you. I would say I'm a busy woman. Like taking words straight from Sabrina Carpenter. I feel like I'm doing it all right now. I'm in cosmetology school, which takes up a lot of my time, but I'm also figuring out the college social scene, just trying to be Miss Pleasant Grove and stay like a positive advocate for everybody in the community while also balancing school, work part-time at Target, which is so funny, but like I'm kind of loving that too. So it's just it's just a busy time in life. It is busy. And you brought your crown.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

I actually when you walked in, I'm like, is it as heavy as it seems? Because as kids, we play with the little plastic ones, but it's actually heavy. It is.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Like you wouldn't expect it to be as heavy as it is. Like I think I'm used to it now. So like I pick it up and I'm like, oh, it's just the crown. But then other people pick it up and be like, it's kind of heavy on your head. I'm like, oh yeah, like it's there, like when it's on there.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

I love it. But let me ask you a real question: how heavy is it to wear it in in in reality, in the sense of being Miss Pleasant Grove.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

I think it's um, it's so important, just I don't even know how to explain it. When you put that crown on, it's it's like you said, it's all these different hats, and it's just this presence that you have to have. And you are trying to be positive, you're trying to look happy all the time. And even on my hardest days, I put the crown on and I automatically feel better because ultimately you're standing for good. That's what the Miss America organization is. So it's pretty, it's pretty incredible, it's pretty empowering.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Okay, you have Miss Utah coming up soon, and you're preparing for that. How before we get into your your history and how you grew up and stuff, how are you feeling about running for Miss Utah? Did you ever think you would be running for Miss Utah?

SPEAKER_00 2:16

Honestly, no, I'm gonna be so honest. Miss Pleasant Girl was my dream. Like this was my childhood dream. And I I won, and I was standing there, and one of our directors came up to me and he was like, Are you excited for Miss Utah? And I looked at him and I go, What? I'm like, Oh, I have to do that too. What are you talking? What are you talking about? He's like, remember like in the meeting they said like you'd compete, and I was like, huh? Like, who are you talking to right now? But I think as I started to prepare for it, and I mean I'm so proud of the state that I'm from, and I'm especially proud of Pleasant Grove, and it's just this incredible opportunity to represent the place I grew up, the place that raised me, and I just ultimately I want to go and I want to make Pleasant Grove proud, and that's that's what's most important to me as I prepare.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

Well, I think your community is proud of you. I am proud of you. I have known Sadie for several years, worked with you from different organizations over the years, mostly as a singer. Yes, yes. Um, I want to back up a little bit. Sadie the singer, okay? This girl has the most beautiful voice you have ever heard. Thank you. Um, and this is something that you have always had a passion for. Yes. Tell me about singing growing up. Was that always something that you did? Was it natural? Did it come natural?

SPEAKER_00 3:20

It did. So my parents, I remember the first time I asked my parents, well, when did I start singing? Like, when did you know I was gonna be a singer? I guess as a newborn baby, I hummed myself to sleep. Like I didn't know that until kind of recently, but I was like, where did this come from? And they were like, No, you've just always sung. And I think there's a million videos of me on the countertop holding microphones. I grew up listening to straight Broadway music. And so when I first started truly showing interest in singing, that's what I was trained in, was Broadway. I made the switch to kind of more pop. Oh gosh, I started training when I was like four, and so I think I probably made the switch to pop around age 10. So being able to combine like Broadway and pop, and then recently been doing a lot more like quiet, soft-spoken stuff. And so I think just to blend it all every time I perform is like just this incredible journey I had to take people on when I sing when I sing a song because we're gonna go through all the motions. We're gonna start small, we're gonna hit you with a little Broadway note there. Like, and it's just it's so fun. I truly love it.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

This this voice comes out of this little tiny body will blow your mind. So you've got to go look up Sadie and trust me, just trust me on that one. Um, Miss Sadie, though, was there ever a time in your life where you just didn't, I mean, did it come natural to be on a stage? Was there ever fear getting up on a stage to perform in front of people?

SPEAKER_00 4:31

So honestly, I always have felt like the stage is like my happy place. Okay. It's kind of a little bit of my escape. It's like when I get up there, I'm doing the thing that I know that I'm the best at. Like I like for me, that's that's that's Sadie. Like Sadie's a singer, and so I get up there and like that's the truest version of me. And so I think sometimes it's hard to like really be that authentic with people and really show like the inside of my heart when I sing, but also it's so beautiful because there's just this form of connection, yeah, and I'm just so happy anytime I get to be on the stage. Like, that is truly my favorite. I mean, of course, there's anxiety about like, oh, what if I miss that? Like, what if I messed this part up? But you just you work through it and like that truly is my happy place.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

How how would you do that? Let me ask you that. Um, because I know a lot of teens will be listening to this. How do you work through some of that anxiety? Because I think there's always a level of of fear at some point in your life when you get in front of a group or uh you're performing maybe a new song that you're not as comfortable in. How did you ever ever overcome those little moments of fear?

SPEAKER_00 5:27

I truly just believe in faking it till I make it. Like that is my life motto because there are days when I'm not confident and I'm not feeling the best, but like you gotta just show up anyway, and you I don't want other people to know I'm nervous. That's one of my things is like I just wanna always like just portray this confidence, and sometimes that's hard. But I think in those moments when I'm nervous, I do a really good job of like grounding myself. I do my deep breaths, and like okay, and the other thing for me is once I start, it has to end. Like time moves forward. So once I get on that stage and I sing that first note, like I know in a minute and 45 seconds the song's gonna be over. So you just once you start, you can't go back. And so I think that's something that you have like just in life in general, like once you do something, you're not going back. You can't redo it. You can't, like you can maybe fix things going forward, but you can't go back and redo that one moment. So, like once something starts, just keep going and just keep on the up and up.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

You know, I I think about that too in my own life. I I think I'm going to survive this. Like, tomorrow is going to happen. Yes. And so I'm going to make the best of these moments because they're they're gonna happen. Yes. So it's gonna be okay. I'm gonna get through the next whatever, if it's a song, two minutes, if it's an interview, 30 minutes, whatever it is. Absolutely, absolutely. We're gonna get through it. Yes, because life will continue to go on. Time has to move. It has to move on. Okay, I want to talk a little bit about um high school for you. You're how old now? I'm 19. 19, so not that long ago. Not that long ago.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Graduated in 25, so Okay, okay. From Pleasant Grove. Pleasant Grove, yes. Pleasant Grove High School. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Okay, I remember at one point you telling me that um when we crossed paths that high school wasn't so easy for you.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

It was not.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

Uh no, and I'm not talking about grades, I'm not talking about the work, I'm talking about the social life of high school. Yeah, it was hard. And for somebody who to look at you from the outside would never think in a million years this beautiful Miss Pleasant Grove would ever struggle in high school. But tell me where those struggles came from.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

It was hard. High school was a really hard time for me. Um, I had a lot of like small incidences that really just like put me down as a person, and I was like, I don't understand what I'm doing to deserve the way I'm being treated. I just kids are mean, honestly. Kids can be so mean, and it's so hard. I think if someone's insecure and they're trying to figure themselves out, they're like just putting that all on you almost sometimes. And um, my my little brother, he's 12 and he's in elementary school, and he's had sometimes a rocky path with friends. And I have another brother, his name is Wade. He has just this amazing friend group that he's had his whole life, and me and Kingston, we haven't we haven't had that. And my brother Kingston said he saw this quote, and I was like, he told me, he was like, Well, Sadie, when you walk into a garden, you're gonna pick the best flowers. And that like really like hit me. Like this was like two weeks ago. That really hit me. He was like, Oh, like I thought about you because he was like, if you're constantly portraying this confidence and you're so happy and you're so sure of yourself, even if it's sometimes fake, he's like, everyone's gonna pick on you. Because who else are they gonna pick on? Someone who's already down, like, whatever, they're not easy to pick on you of all these amazing qualities, and it's just easy to be just pick at them and just try and tear you down. And so that like kind of put things into a lot of perspective for me. But high school is definitely just like not my favorite time. I remember waking up on graduation, I was like, hey mom, dad, like if I don't want to go walk this morning, like, do you care? Like, do you care if I walk today? Like I said, that's not hard. I was like, I don't want to see everyone. Like, I'm gonna like be emotional, like I was like, I don't want to see I don't want to see everyone. Yeah, I was like, I I don't wanna see everyone. I don't want to stand and pretend I want to take pictures with all these people. Cause I feel like there were small times when people were there for me, but I felt like at the end of the day there wasn't like these people that just like roll it around me unless it was my mom and my dad and my brothers, and that was hard. But my my dad looked at me and he was like, You have to walk. He's like, You did it, like you did it. And that was like, I remember shaking my principal's hand and just being like, I'm done. Like I did it, I lived, like it was all okay. Like I got through, but it was it was hard, and I spent a lot of nights, like my parents are my best friends, and I spent a lot of nights just sitting at home with them, a lot of Friday nights. I'm not saying that I didn't have good times too. Sure, yeah. But I mean I look at the experience as the whole, like it was hard and I was ready to be done.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

A story that it it breaks my heart, but I know that you're willing to share it.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

Where you were bullied.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

Yeah, it was it was hard, and and I always get emotional when I talk about it, but something I always wanted when I was a little girl was a Jeep, which is so very girl of me. I know you taught girl, but I wanted a Jeep, and I worked really, really hard to save up all this money for this Jeep. And on my 15th birthday, my parents surprised me. They'd taken half of the money I had saved and then some of their own money, and they bought me this awesome vintage Jeep. And it was everything to me. I had these amazing green seats, and like, oh, I just I loved it. It's my Jeep, and I still have the Jeep. But my junior year, I left the Jeep outside of someone's house. It was summer, the roof was off, and some kids peed in my Jeep all all over the seats. The my least favorite part is they peed in my cup and I didn't know. And so the next morning I drank it, and that's how we found out that it was peed, and that's why our butts had been wet when we were driving the Jeep that night. And I remember I just sat there and like in this pea soaked car, and I sat there and I thought like this is my car. Like this is my like I love my Jeep. Like, my Jeep is my happy place. And I was like, this is my like like I worked so hard to have this, and I loved that car. And you're wondering why is this? I'm wondering why is this happening? I was like, what did I do, mom? Like, I remember just like sitting there and like being like, what did I do? Like, what did I do to deserve that? Like, where in someone's right mind are you thinking I'm gonna pee in your car? Like, that's disgusting. We ended up having to replace the entire interior of my Jeep. And so sometimes it's awful because every time I get in my car, I'm like, oh, my green seats aren't here anymore. Those aren't my vintage green seats. Like, that's not the car I saved up for forever. I still love it. And I would still say, like, I get in my my Jeep and I have the wind in my hair and it's amazing, but it's just like that small reminder of like when it rains, I still smell the pee. And I hate that.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Like, in that moment, in that moment, you're a teenager, something awful bullying like that happens to you. I know you have this incredible support system in your family. What helped you? What guided you through that moment? Because that you can feel pretty low in that moment.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

I was I was low and it was it was extra hard almost because it never went away. Nobody, everyone kind of at school made a big pact. I don't really understand this part, but like we're not gonna tell Sadie who did it, we're not gonna tell her who did it. And so all these people from other schools knew about it, and like I'd meet them and be like, I'd say my name and be like, You're P girl. And I'd be like, What? And so I wasn't just like this one time, like my parents had to be there for me. Like, it was just like this constant state of like, oh, it happens again, we're bringing it up again. It's been it's my senior year of high school. Why are we still talking about this? Like, I was at a party the other day, and someone was like, Oh my gosh, I know your name. And I was like, bro, like, no way, this is why. But something that was that I never really thought about. Um, my little brother was like, once I was a senior, he was a sophomore there, and I told you he has that awesome group of friends. Sometimes I would just hang out with the little sophomores, and they loved me, and they were like so kind to me, but there were so many days where I would pop my head into my brother's class and then I'd be like, I need you to come sit, like, come sit with me in the hallway, like just come sit with me for a minute. And my little brother would like, oh, it's gonna make me emotional again. My little brother would just come hug me until I was okay again. Like he would just sit in the hallway with me or talk to me, or like he would pop into my classroom and be like, Hey, Sates, like, come sit with me. Like I know you're having a day, like come sit with me. And so I think that's like just like my brothers, my brothers and my parents are just my best friends, and I'm so thankful for them. And I think in those moments, like they're the ones that are truly there for me every single time.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

And that's amazing. What incredible support system to help you through that, and it just shows you just little acts of kindness, whether that be from a family member or a friend, can have such big impacts and helping somebody through something really difficult in those moments. Incredible. Um we get through high school. I know there are a lot of other stories there, and um throughout high school you were performing and you were you were doing lots of different things. Um, coming out of high school though, you started to take on this voice where you were doing like advocacy work and you kind of found this mission. I I want to talk about this book we have here. Tell me about this new chapter of life that you're in and what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

Yeah, okay. So I have seven cousins who have autism, and so I think, yeah, it's a lot, but my family is just very, very close. So outside of my immediate family, like my aunts and uncles, they're all in Utah, almost all of them. And that's where the cousins come from. And so growing up with them, it was really easy for me to connect with them, or at school, like really easy for me to just connect with the kids that were maybe a little bit different, maybe struggling socially. Like, I really felt like I truly could understood them. But through my experience in high school, I started watching, you know, what's it like for those kids who are a little bit different, who are already struggling. And I was like, nobody is fully understanding where they're at. And I had a cousin who had cancer and autism, and it was really, really hard for him just to go through chemotherapy. And something that made it extra hard was like the nurses didn't really understand, like, he won't take this pill, like he literally won't do it, like you can't talk him into it, you can't make him, you can't coax him into this. And like I was I was 11 when that happened, but like that really like stuck has stuck with me my whole life. And then just being in schools as Miss Pleasant Grove and watching firsthand. There are some amazing kids who know how to work with these kids that have autism, and then there are other kids. This this breaks my heart. My cousin the other day came home from school and he was so excited because he just got a new phone and he'd never had a phone before, and they put him on the group chat with his classroom, and he was so excited. And this kid texted him and was like, We don't like you, like we hate you, you're a weird kid. And so it was like one one day with a cell phone. And I remember I told my dad, I was like, I am marching up there to that school, and I'm walking into that classroom, and I'm gonna hand that kid a copy of the book and say, read it, read it, learn about autism, yeah, learn about how we just have to be more patient and understanding. It's okay if they don't always know exactly what they're saying. You just just gotta absolutely love on them, and that's why it's so important to me, and that's why I wrote the book, just to help kids understand.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

I love I'm gonna read, I'm actually gonna read something from your book. Okay. This page stood out to me. Oh, cute. Okay, so she said, at the morning circle, the kids sat in the rug. Liam waved hello, talking first was hard, but waving worked just fine. Eli listened carefully, even if his eyes looked away. Maya sat on the edge, so she had space to breathe. Each hello was different, but each one mattered. I love that you like you literally, you really thought about like each kid has their own way of communicating. Yes. And each way a kid communicates is okay. And is their own, you know what I mean? That's who they are. And and we need to learn how to love and and not only accept but embrace it.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Absolutely. Well, one in 36, I think it's one in 36. So the statistic actually changes all the time just because there's so much um, like what is the word research going into autism right now. Last I checked, though, one in 36 kids has autism. It's as that's a very large percentage of children that you're everybody's gonna deal with. And it's just it's just that way you have to love on them. It's like you said, their voice matters and it's okay that they're different, but everybody's important. Like when we all sit down, like we all matter.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

So Sadie, who gets bullied through high school, says, I'm gonna write a book and I'm gonna go fight for kids who are not being understood with autism. Yeah. And you write a book. I did, I did, I did.

unknown 16:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Was there any doubt in your mind? Was there anything telling you I can't do this?

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Um, honestly, I'm pretty stubborn. And when I put my mind to something, like, I'm gonna do it. And it was hard. This took a lot longer than I thought, and just the whole process of putting it together. But like, I don't think there's any ever part of me that was like, oh, like I can't do this. Like, I, once I have my mind set on something, like I'm gonna get it done. Like it's it's gonna happen, it's gonna work. And so I think that's like really empowering sometimes is like when I put my mind to something, like, I know it's gonna, like, we're gonna do it, we're gonna get there.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

How talk to a kid who is in that in that phase of life where they want to do something and they're just they're just not they're just scared. They just don't, you know what I mean? Maybe, maybe they're being bullied, maybe right, they don't fit in, maybe they are the ones sitting on the edge of the the rug in the classroom. How what would you tell them? Not only as Sadie, but as Miss Pleasant Growth, what's that conversation you're having with them to help give them that that confidence, that spark?

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Yeah, I think I think sometimes it's hard to look at a kid and really have them truly understand this, but like everybody's scared of something. Like, so I there's this quote, I don't remember exactly how it goes, but it's just like everyone kind of feels stupid. Like everyone's kind of like, what am I doing? Like, can I really get this done? I think you just look at someone, you just have to have this like internal motivation, and you can tell a kid like chances are the person you look up to is scared to do everything that they've done. Like, you're gonna look at an NBA player, and I mean probably took them forever to get there, and I'm sure they were scared to go to tryouts or like scared to be on the court every day, but like they're doing it, they're showing up, and so you just have to have like tell a kid like you got this, you just have to really push them, I think. And and that's hard. And I think having been through what I've been through, there were moments, and there still are. I call my mom, I'm like, I can't go by myself, I can't do it. I can't, like, I know every I know there's people there that want to hang out with me, and but I I can't get there by myself, I can't get there by myself, and so it's just it's it's hard, it's truly difficult, but you just really, really have to push yourself. And it's hard to say, like, constantly live outside your comfort zone, but you're not gonna grow if you're not constantly outside of your comfort zone and everyone's scared to do something. Okay to push yourself, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

Absolutely. You push yourself with this. What has this taught you? Not only as you know, it stretched you as is trying, you know, 19 years old, writing a book, learning about autism, but not only in a way that you have family members, but as an author and somebody who's going to be a voice for you know, those with living with autism and and navigating that. Um, but what has it taught you?

SPEAKER_00 19:06

How has it changed you? Right. Um, I think it's really cool because as I've spent time in classrooms, like talking to kids about this book, reading this book to them, kids listen. And I know everyone's like, oh, kids don't listen. No, they do. I finished reading this book and I'm like, what did you learn? And they're all popping their hands up, oh, I'm gonna be nicer to my friend who has this. Or I have a cousin and he likes to collect flags. And now I understand what his his mom was saying when he was talking about how he's having a harder time at school. Like the kids truly do listen. I had this one kid who was like, I want to tell you about my cousin who has autism. Like, I've been scared to talk about him. He, this is kind of what I was talking about. But the kid was like, he collects flags about places around the world, and now I know that it would probably mean a lot to him if I went and asked him about his flags. That'd probably make him feel really important. I remember I just like sat there and I was like, oh my gosh, like you listened. Like you're gonna go, like you're gonna go home and be like, wait, I know how to communicate with you, I know how to help you. And then I had a dad who had a gotten hold of my book, and he said, I bought your book because I teach primary um for my church, and a kid, a student has autism, and I just wanted to really understand, yeah, understand them. And he was like, I would have never known where to go from if I hadn't read your book. And I was like, wait, like this is actually like working, like we're actually making a difference. And like that's amazing. That like fills my heart so much. I'm like, wait, it's working. And like we were in 15 states right now, like I've made it like some really amazing connections. Like, let me put this book in my school, and I'm like, please, like, that's fabulous.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

And amazing. That's fantastic. Sadie, congratulations. That's that's great. You're making a difference there. Um, tell me about you know, I follow you on Instagram, and something caught my attention. Um, I just I love your energy. I love how you're always trying to put positivity out there, but I noticed there was a video of you in your car, and you had flowers, and you were, I mean, you're literally in your sweats and you're like running around. And the further I got into the video, like as a mom, I'm sitting there in tears. And I want you to share the story. I want you to tell people about how just a simple act of kindness, and that's the thing about kindness. Anybody can do something kind. Yes, and that's that's the point of this story, and I want Sadie to share it about these flowers that you were taking to the hospital. Right. So, what tell folks what you were doing.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Okay, so I love flowers. I'm like kind of obsessed with flowers. If you go to my Instagram, like every service project, everything, like flowers are involved in some way because I just think they're such a happy thing. But I had this idea about a year ago to um take some flowers and tie some ribbon around them and just leave them on cars at the hospital for people that were having a hard day, and it made me feel so good. You don't know who these cars are belonging to or what they're going through. No, I had no idea. And so then a couple months later, my friends and I were all just having it was just an awful day. There was so much going on. We were all sitting in our apartment crying, and I was like, What are we doing? I was like, Get up, we're going to Trader Joe's to get some flowers. And that's when I started filming because I was like, if this is helping me have a better day, who else can go do this? And how can they have a better day? And so I started filming and we went to Trader Joe's and we get all these flowers and we just wrote inspirational quotes on these little note cards and we tied them to the flowers and we start putting them around uh the cars, and it truly always makes me feel better. But the best part was I got home and my mom called me and she was like, I have to tell you, I have to tell you something. I was like, Oh, she said, I ran into an old neighbor of ours who had a friend who got one of your flowers, and we tracked all the dates, and it was all the things. She said she got into the hospital with her sister that day. Her mom had passed a few weeks before, and she sat in the room and her sister was diagnosed with an uncurable disease, and she had months to live in. And she ran out of the room, just like sobbing and she ran to her car because she didn't know where to go. And my flowers are on her car. Sorry, it's totally gonna make me cry. Um, she was like, Oh, you're like, we trace back the dates, like we're 100% sure it was me. And she was like, I just lost my mom, and I walk out to my car, and out of all the cars in the parking lot, there's flowers on my car. And she was like, I just felt like my mom had sent an angel to like be with me in that moment. She was like, and I truly felt scene. And I remember when I took my friends to put the flowers on their cars, they're like, How do you know which cars to put it on? I said, You just know. You just know, like, I know that sounds so dumb. Like, you just look at the cars and you're like, That one, that one. And so I actually ended up with a uh bunch of flowers the other day from a baby blessing. They're like, What should we do with these? And I was like, Oh, I'll take them. So literally Monday night, I was like, I was going to like 11:30 p.m. and I'm like tying ribbons as fast as I can't, like pouring rain. But I think it does make a difference if I was having a hard day at the hospital, like I'd want to walk out. Like, absolutely, like that's what I would want. And it's so cool when things get back to you and you know that you're making a difference because I don't know what the other 55 people did with their flowers, but I know for that one person, like that is exactly what she needed in that moment. And so I'm grateful that like I was able to do that for her. Oh my gosh, Sadie.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

I just hope my daughter grows up to be you. That's so sweet. You're making me cry here. Oh, you're so sweet. Tell me what kindness has taught you. I mean, you I I know you're you're young, you're this beautiful young woman, 19, but already you've done and lived through so much, um, so many different life emotional experiences, right? But you I've noticed you tend to always lean to kindness. You always, you always find something to brighten whether it's your day or somebody else's day. How has that defined your life or changed your life or or or just led you?

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Wow, that's like a big question.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

That's a big question. That's a big question.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

I think overall, like I just want to be a happy person. And like I want people to meet me and be like, wow, that's like the happiest person I've ever met. Like, she's so happy. And I I do think that kindness brings me happiness because I'm never gonna feel good if I'm putting someone down. And I know that on my worst days, when someone's kind to me, like it truly makes a difference. I remember I was in seminary my sophomore year. There's a girl, her name's Hayley Bills, she's on dancing with the stars. Yeah, I love her, she's amazing, but I was having the worst day, and she was like, You are wearing the cutest sweater today. Your outfits are always so cute, and like little baby sophomore stadium was like third or fourth day of school. It's Hayley Bills, like every day. She's amazing, it's awesome. And I was like, Oh my gosh, that made my whole day. And I was like, I want to do that for people, like I wanna keep being that person. I think I've always had this persona being kind, but I I do truly remember that moment being like, wow, like that like really made a difference. And how much did that take? I mean, what was the effort it took for her to do that? I mean, it was easy. It was like I love your sweater. And I was like, Oh, I really needed that today. And then my best friend and roommate right now, she's I always call her a Disney princess. And I think she always inspires me to be more kind because she's just always like finds whenever something negative is happening, she's like, let's make it positive. How can we how can we make this better? How can we be kind to those? Sometimes it's hard in cosmetology school. I meet a lot of different diff very different people, and sometimes people are not nice, and I've always just seen her like just truly be so kind to them and just lead with so much like worth towards people, if that makes sense. And so I just I want to keep being that. Okay, and I am inspired by the people around me, I think.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

And well, I'm inspired by you. Thank you. I truly am.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

I have been since the day I met you. I mean, I think you were only like 15, maybe. It was it was it was a while ago. Yeah. Um, Sadie, as we wrap up, I want you to speak to the teens out there. Um, I want you to, what would be the message you would like to leave with them? If they listen to this conversation, what would be the last message you'd want them to hear, or what would you like them to take away from this conversation?

SPEAKER_00 26:32

I think overall, if I could go back and talk to myself, is I would just say to myself, like, fake it till you make it, I will still always live by that. But on your worst days, don't be afraid to reach out to people. People want to be there for you, and people do genuinely care about you, but also when you're having a hard time, spread your light because when you're like sharing things with others, it's just gonna make your insights even brighter because people aren't gonna see your light unless it's there. And so I think just I mean, there's a million things I could say, just be as confident as you know how to be, and remember that people are always there for you and looking out for you, even if it doesn't feel that way, there's always at least one person who wants to be there for you, and I think that's super duper important. And also, if you I think the hospital thing is a good one. Most times I go do that by myself. Like I've taken my friends before, most times it's something I do by myself, and I think if I could go back and do it a million times, I would because I always feel better when I'm making other people feel better. If that makes sense, kind of, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

It's beautiful. Last question here: who has been your biggest champion and who has inspired you the most?

SPEAKER_00 27:37

My mom.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

I know she's sitting right over here.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Yeah, she's over there.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

My mom. And what is it about her support?

SPEAKER_00 27:44

Literally everything. Like, oh gosh, I I'd be nothing without my mom. Like, nothing. I mean, anytime I'm having a bad day, she's just like, she'll text me and be like, honey, like you've got this. I'm so proud of you, and I'm so thankful. Like, my dad, too. That I've just had parents like constantly tell me that they're proud of me because it just fills me up, makes me feel so good inside, and I'm like, oh, like someone's like proud of what I'm doing, but like it would be my mom, just everything. I think when we talk about kindness, like it's my mom. I mean, it's my mom, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

You know, kindness can make a huge difference in a person's life, and it doesn't have to be big, it doesn't have to be flashy. Very the smallest things can make a difference, and you are making a difference. And I am so grateful that you were here to share your story and inspire others, and we wish you the best of luck at Miss Utah. Thank you. I've got a fan in me, and I will be cheering you on the whole way.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Thank you. That means a lot to me.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

I loved being here.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

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