1. We Are Friends and Sisters

In this episode, Tina Boesch and Paige Keeton are joined by the director of Lifeway Women, Andrea Lennon, as they explore friendship as Jesus defines it—personal, purposeful, and rooted in love. Reflecting on how Jesus calls us friends, they explore how obedience flows from love and how true friendship often requires sacrifice. The hosts reflect on the beauty and necessity of authentic connection among women, reminding listeners that remaining in Jesus’s love transforms the way we love and serve one another. Through Scripture and thoughtful reflection, this conversation encourages women to pursue friendships that reflect the heart of Christ and strengthen their walk with Him. 

• Key Bible passage: John 15:9-17 
• Remain: to permanently exist in; be inseparably united to 
• What are concentric circles? 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:11

Welcome to the Friends and Sisters Podcast. I'm so glad you guys could join us. I'm Tina Bosch.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

And I'm Paige Keaton, and in this podcast, we'll reflect on how to cultivate deep Christ-centered relationships with one another.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Yeah, whether you're new to your relationship with Jesus or if you've walked with him for years for your whole life, this podcast will remind you that you have a place in God's family and it will inspire you to become a better sister and friend. We're gonna be meeting some of our friends in interviews that we're excited to get to share with you. So, Paige.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Yes, ma'am, what you got?

SPEAKER_03 0:46

Are you ready to go?

SPEAKER_02 0:46

I'm ready. Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

All right, I've got a question for you. Okay. If you could choose one woman in the Bible to be friends with, there's so many I'd want to be friends with.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

Okay, Old Testament, New Testament. Let's go Old Testament. I'm gonna go Rahab.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

Okay, so why Rahab?

SPEAKER_02 1:04

Oh my gosh. I love I love like drama and adventure. She's like the Indiana Jones of of the Old Testament in a way. Like, think about the spies coming and her hiding the spies and then sending them down the wall, and then you know, getting saved when everything went down and the huge, you know, the wall came down, and then she's gonna go be, you know, in the in the lineage of Christ. Like, come on, she's she's something. Yeah, she really is. She would have stories to tell. And I just I think my and my inner counselor wants to go, what tell me about that?

SPEAKER_03 1:35

That is a hundred percent it. So you you guys, you have to know that Paige is actually a licensed family counselor. And so she brings that expertise into our conversations.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

That interest in people, the curiosity to know people. And she's got some stories and how she found her love and crazy brain. Okay, about how about you? Who would you be friends with? Who would you want to sit down to lunch with?

SPEAKER_03 1:58

Oh man, it is genuinely a hard choice because there are a lot of I'm gonna go with two, an old testament and a new testament. Hey, so okay, uh, this one's short. I am I would have loved to have known Hulda. She's not mentioned very often in Scripture, but in the time of Josiah, when they rediscover the law and they're reading it after it had been forgotten, the high priest and the king seek her counsel on the law. And I want to know like how did she learn scripture? Who taught her? If she was that respected by the leaders of Israel in her time, the woman had to just be encyclopedic and her knowledge of God's word, and I want to know that. I know I want to know why. I want to know how. No, that's not true of me. You are but I would love to know her. Um, so what about you? What's a moment that you can remember when a friend really showed up for you?

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Oh gosh. One of my favorites, and you know, we had these questions before, so I've been thinking about that. And one of the best times uh a friend really helped me when I felt really alone and uh discouraged was when I had COVID. It was back in it was back in, I had COVID in 21, and I had like for the full thing, like 14 days. It was when quarantine was 14 days, and you're even if you feel great, you're sitting there. And it was Easter, it was Easter day. Like it's Easter Sunday, so nobody was going to church. And and my friend, uh I've uh speaking of friends and sisters, have a lovely friend group in Nashville of single women, and they're all incredible cooks. So I just really hit the jackpot, they're incredible cooks. And so this one friend, she hosts a huge Easter lunch every every Easter and has all the things. Her devil eggs are on point. And so I'm sitting there in the front yard because it's so pretty and I'm so lonely. And I'm waving at people because I'm so lonely. And um, and here she comes. I could cry talking about it. She pulls up, gets out of her car, she doesn't come close, but she lays down like on the driveway, this platter of incredible, the whole the feast, and just waved at me and smiled at me and remembered me that I was sitting at my house by myself. And I feasted on that. It was good mac and cheese and a roll and those deviled eggs and ham. It was amazing. But she remembered me and it really lifted my heart. And it was like me and the Lord on Easter, we had us a little meal there, but she remembered me. It was wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 4:18

It's such a loving it was yeah. Such a loving ministry of a little bit of presence and food.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

Like, and just I got to feast with them, and I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 4:29

There's nothing better than presence with food.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Presence with food and food being a present. Yes, it was wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 4:37

Today we get to talk a little bit with our friend Andrea. I love Andrea. What do you love about her?

SPEAKER_02 4:42

I love that she's so warm and encouraging, always positive. Uh, she's actually my boss, so that's fun to have an encouraging and loving uh boss who's like a friend, but also a boss. She's she's wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

Yeah, Andrea is also the director of Life Way Women. She hosts the Mark podcast. And she's one of the women who wrote for the Friends and Sisters Bible study, which inspired this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

That's why we're doing this podcast. It goes along with the study uh we've done called Friends and Sisters. So if you want to join us for that and and get a copy, we have that in the show notes. You can find that and join with us. And Andrea, again, she starts us off with that first chapter.

SPEAKER_03 5:19

That's right. And when she joins us, one of the passages she wrote about was John 15. And even in just thinking about the love that your friend showed you, um, Jesus set the standard for that love. He did. So let's read that passage together. Yeah. And then we'll dive into talking about the text with Andrea. Sounds great. As the Father has loved me, I have also loved you. Remain in my love. If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my father's commands and remain in his love. I have told you these things so that my joy may be in you and your joy may be complete. This is my command. Love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, to lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you. I do not call you servants anymore, because a servant doesn't know what his master is doing. I have called you friends, because I have made known to you everything I have heard from my father. You did not choose me, but I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit and that your fruit should remain. So that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you. This is what I command you. Love one another. Andrea, I'm so glad you could come. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

I'm excited to be here with my friends and sisters. Right?

SPEAKER_03 6:49

Yes, definitely. And we get to dive straight into what Jesus said about being friends. Yes. We just read John 15, and that's a passage you wrote about for friends and sisters. And so we really want you to take us there. What is happening in this passage that Jesus is really honing in on his disciples as his friends?

SPEAKER_01 7:13

I love this passage. And you know, we talk about snapshots in the Bible study and these different snapshots that tell a picture. And I love how a picture tells so many different things. Who's there, what they're talking about, what they're doing. And in this particular snapshot, it's it's housed in a larger one. We see Jesus in his farewell discourse. So he is leaning in with his disciples and he's saying, these are the things you need to remember. These are the things that are important. And he talks about friendship, Tina and Paige. And I love that. It's so personal, it's so beautiful. And it's like this invitation for us to lean into this relationship that is available to us through Jesus Christ with the Father and to live on mission. So Jesus accepts the love of the Father, we receive the love of Jesus, and then we live on mission as we love others.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

That's so beautiful. It is beautiful. That is beautiful. Jesus is really clear here about some dynamics of friendship. Why he is using the word friend. Can you kind of lean in on some of those verses that help us understand when Jesus says you're not servants, you're my friends. Why does he say that? What is the because that goes with that?

SPEAKER_01 8:24

I love that because he's saying, I want to have this beautiful relationship with you where you are wanted and you're welcomed, you're safe and you're secure, you're loved, you're redeemed. And I love how he says in verse nine, remain in my love. And as we remain in his love, we have this beautiful relationship that is moving beyond just doing things for somebody, like a servant would do, into this, like we know the heart of the Father, we know the heart of Jesus, we know the plan, we know the purpose, and we get to be on mission in this loving, living, breathing relationship where we to go out and love others. So it's so beautiful, it's so personal, it's so intimate.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

It is, and we're at our best as friends with us remaining in him. That's right. And we're walking with him, we're better friends to others than who I am. We're walking with him. And in that passage, um, uh John 15, Jesus links friendship and obedience, which feels like a different turn. Like, how how would you explain that in the passage?

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Well, I just I love again going back to that concept of love, how we are rooted in love, how we are called to remain in love. And the word remain that's used in John chapter 15, it means to be permanently uh to permanently exist in or be inseparably united to. And so whenever we have that relational component that is rooted in love, where we're wanted and welcome, we're safe and secure, we're loved and we're redeemed, then what happens is we know the heart of the Father. We know how to live on mission, and obedience becomes the outflow. And I don't know if you've seen this, I know I've seen it in my own life. I want to be honest about that. Also in the lives of others, so often we think we have to earn acceptance, we have to try to keep it, we have to try to prove something. And what Jesus is saying in this passage of scripture is that you are my friend. We are in relationship with one another. And because of that, we get to just live out of the overflow of our relationship with Jesus. And so naturally, obedience flows out of that. We want to do um what God is calling us to do. We want to live on mission, we want to enjoy these beautiful friendships and relationships and to do that in a healthy way, but always remembering that that vertical relationship with God, it sets the tone through Jesus Christ for us to be accepted, for us to be valued, for us to have purpose. Uh, and then out of that becomes obedience, right? So I want to do the things God is calling me to do. And I don't want to do that to prove something, right? I want to do that out of just response. So one thing I talk about in the study is that, you know, love is not to be earned and it's not something that we have to strive to keep. It is a gift to be received. So when we receive that gift of love and we remain in it, and we know that Jesus is our friend, and we know that Jesus is our brother because he came to this earth, he lived a perfect life, he died in our place, he rose again, conquering sin, death, disease, dismay, everything that separated us from the Father. He is the way, he is the truth, he is the life. So we have this passionate relationship with him. And then we go and we live in obedience and faith, in surrender. And what happens is that his love flows through us, and we see that as well in John chapter 15. The love of the Father given to Jesus, the love of Jesus given to us, as we remain in that love, inseparable, united to it permanently, because we're safe and we're we're secure. What happens is then we have the ability to go and love others. Not because we bring that ability to the table, right? Because we face challenges, we face hardships, we face overwhelming circumstances, but as we're surrendered in, as we're abiding, as we're remaining, that supernatural work of the spirit enables us to go forth in obedience. So it's important to get that in the right order, so to speak, or to understand. Otherwise, we're constantly striving, constantly trying to earn or keep or prove what has already been gifted to us. It is ours to receive.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

So as women are I want to hit on obedience a little more like for a woman that's like listening or watching this and going, what does obedience look like for me in my day-to-day life? Like what would you recommend to women? Like, what does tangible obedience day-to-day in a busy life look like?

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Yes, I know we face this every single day, right? Because the roles and the responsibilities are long. And so often, and I'll go first to admit this, I tend to focus on the roles and the responsibilities. And in the process, I may forsake the relationship, right? I'll kind of do that checklist, check it off, and then you know, move on with my day. So, what I have found is that when I am fostering that passionate love relationship through my time in the word, through, you know, healthy rhythms of spiritual disciplines, not out of just a checklist, but out of like this is a launching pad for me into my day. I need then I have a different focus as I go through my day. I'm able hopefully to see the things in a different light. I'm hopefully able to engage in a different way. I I'm hopeful that I'm obedient in those moments, surrendered in those moments out of a loving relationship that's remaining connected to Jesus as a friend. We need that.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

So I admit that like I haven't thought about obedience in terms of friendship before. That seems like it's unique in as it relates to my friendship with the Lord, but I've never thought about being obedient to a friend. So I think that vertical horizontal distinction is really helpful just as we think about what's true of our friendship with God and what's true of our friendship with each other. I want to lean in and ask you a little bit about a verse in John 15 and then how it can illuminate what's going on in one of the snapshots that you wrote about. So in John 15, 15, Jesus says, I don't call you servants anymore. I do not call you servants anymore because a servant doesn't know what his master is doing. I have called you friends because, because always tells me here's the why. Because I have made known to you everything I have heard from my father. So there's this kind of really beautiful disclosure. But when in the snapshots that you wrote about, we see some moments where Jesus is disclosing himself to the whole group of his friends, but others where he actually just takes Peter, James, and John up to the mountain. Let's talk about like the degree to which friendship is disclosing. And is it okay to have an inner circle of friends? Like, how do we think about that? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

And I love I love the picture of the concentric circles because I think that that provides a path that's both biblical and sustainable. And so Jesus modeled that for us. He obviously came for all, right? He came for the 12 and he poured into the 12, but then we see him pulling the three together and he has those specific moments with them. And then ultimately we see him going to the one, you know, from you know, in different ways, ministering to an individual by washing their feet, uh, by also thinking about like restoring them to ministry. We think about uh Peter and that kind of restoration, doubting Thomas and speaking into his doubts, and he became believing Thomas because of that. And so we see Jesus modeled that, but then for us, when we think about how we can have that in healthy rhythms in our life, it for me it becomes a capacity issue personally. Like I can, I I love, and everybody knows this, I'm all about the friends and sisters, right? I love the people, I love it, I love relationships and I have a high capacity for that. But then whenever I really want to go deeper and I really want that accountability, and I need it so desperately. And I also want to link arms uh for a ministry opportunity or a ministry relationship at a deeper level. I naturally will go and gravitate to a smaller group. Why? Because for me, it's a capacity issue. But I think what Jesus was modeling is that it is both safe and good and healthy to have that inner circle that you pour into and you invest in. Why? Because he was preparing them for the days ahead, right? He was preparing them for the ministry that was to come. And I'm so thankful for that. So we have those people that support us, but we also support them at a different level. And then I'm so grateful too that Jesus ministers to my individual heart and that we saw him doing that as well. So those concentric circles are a good way for me to create rhythms that are sustainable, number one, but also to model relationships that are healthy and balanced. It wouldn't be healthy for me to have the same level of conversation with the masses that I have with my inner circle and or the same conversation that I have with my inner circle that sometimes I have with that one mentor or that one accountability partner or even my husband or my dearest friend. And so I think about just the way that allows us to go deeper in healthy ways that are sustainable, but also purposeful. And that's what I think we see Jesus modeling, purposeful relationships that are rooted in love, that are kingdom focused, but also very edifying, very satisfying to each one of us.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

I love that. I love the concentric circles because it's true. I think some women feel like they have to have 12 or 15 really close relationships and make sure everybody feels like we worry about we worry about what people are feeling. If they're are we hurting their feelings by not telling them, pulling them in close. And and I love that Jesus modeled that for us because we really don't have the capacity for that. When something's painful or you're dealing with someone who's in a lot of pain and you're trying to help them, it's hard to do that with that level of intensity of friendship and emotional connection with so many people. Yes, yes. And so, but we feel that we feel like we should, if we're doing this for this friend, we need to do it for this friend. Well, it's okay. And Jesus shows us we can have these different kinds of tiers that we need and they need, and he sorts that out for everybody, not just us. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

And it's it's also insightful into our motives a lot of times. And like this could be an entire, you know, series for us to talk about. But you know, those friendships, and this is what we see Jesus modeling, sacrificial friendship. We see that that he laid down his life for his friend. And so that's so beautiful for us. And anytime we turn that friendship back towards meeting a need within us in an unhealthy way, we're trying to get our value, we're trying to get our purpose, we're trying to fill all of our people so that we feel like we belong, or whatever the case may be. That should be a red flag for us. Okay, I need to go back to that vertical relationship and uh remain in his love, remain in his presence, remain in his purpose, remain in his um, you know, his provision of that relationship. And then I'm at that healthy place to step into those horizontal relationships. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

That's how we reset when we're trying to put life in or if someone is putting trying to put life in us, they're find their life in us, or we're finding our life in them. It's like, no, we find our life in Jesus only. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

No matter how close that relationship may be, we just want to make sure that we're going to the source of life and living out of that Him. So true. Out of Him and how that impacts all of our other, you know, relationships.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

That's why He makes it an obedience piece because it helps us with our relationships.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

That standard of laying down your life for a friend feels honestly kind of unachievable. Um it feels intimidating if I'm thinking about it literally in the way that Jesus laid down his life. But can you talk a little bit about what laying down your life looks like for friends in your own life in a way that may feel more relatable to us?

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Absolutely. I love that question. And I think it's a needed conversation for us because we are reminded that we do need to be sacrificial. And so I need to put the needs and um the desires at times of my friends before my own. You know, if if there is something that my friend needs and I can sacrifice and I can meet that need, if it is, you know, if I can do good in that situation, I need to be willing to do it. And here's what I love about the sacrificial aspect is it takes the eye our eyes off of ourself and it puts our eyes back on Jesus. What would he have me do in the midst of this situation and circumstance? And then my eyes are just around what do they need in the midst of this situation and circumstance? And here's what I love. We can't save anybody, right? And we can't serve everybody. But when we have our hearts and our minds attuned to what God would have us do in the midst of that moment, he will tell us how to be sacrificial in that moment. He will lead us. Um, you know, and sometimes for me, that is I'm all in, I'm, you know, taking a meal, I'm helping with the kids, I'm taking some workload, I am, you know, going to an event when I'd really rather stay at home. I mean, those are the nitty-gritty aspects. But other times it means that my sacrifice in that moment is letting somebody else meet that need. Yes. Because God's called them to do it, right? And so sacrificial, it requires relational um interaction with the Lord so that we can get our direction from Him. Otherwise, we'll just wear ourselves out of our flesh. Right. And I've been there. I've been there thinking I'm gonna, you know, be all the things to all the people. I'm gonna save all the all the day, right? And it's it's at the end of the day, which we talked about this earlier, that's more about me than them. And so the beauty, the beauty of that remain word, right, which we talked about, is being permanently existing in his love, inseparable, inseparably united. To remaining in his love is that we have hopefully some guidance and some leadership and some wisdom and clarity in the midst of those moments. What does sacrifice look like for me in the midst of this moment? And again, it goes back to love as we love one another. So it's relational.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

It is so relational.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

So as women are watching, some uh this episode and we're talking about tiers of friendships, but what if someone doesn't have many friendships? And as you're out, you're out, you're out speaking a good bit and in front of women, like what are you hearing about women and their need for and the desire for belonging connection out there? Who like how do we advise them to what are you hearing and then how do we encourage them to find friends?

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yes, yes, we're hearing so many things, right? Which is why we have this study that there is a longing, there is a desire for, can I use the word authentic relationships? You know, I I was thinking about this as I was preparing for our time together, and I love it when I go into a coffee shop and I see two people who are just in, I mean, they're in it, right? Whatever they're doing, we don't know what they're talking about. You know, they're totally in it. And oftentimes recently I've noticed they don't even necessarily have makeup on. You know, their hair isn't all the way fixed. I mean, they're running in, they're they're grabbing that moment together. And so I do see that desire for authentic, you know, authentic relationships, for vulnerability, for transparency, uh, to maybe get away from the screens and to just get face to face. I mean, I think that's a growing desire and need. But that's scary, right? Because it does call us into vulnerability and into sometimes going first and saying, you know what, my life isn't as perfect as maybe you think, or maybe I've portrayed it to be. And so that I think is a step that as I just want to challenge our listeners that we get to go first in. Yeah. We get to go first, we get to show up, we get to go um to those real deep places and spaces in appropriate ways. And I think it's gonna be beautiful how that meets a need in our life and it meets a need in another person's life. So that's what I would say to the first part of your question is I think there's a growing need, I think there is a growing desire. I think that people are are hungry for relationships. I think they're willing to go there, but somebody has to go first. Right. And that's where I'm gonna just give I'm gonna give the second encouragement, and that is if you are looking for this kind of friendship, be this kind of friend. Right. That's good. Be this kind of friend. So often we sit back and we're waiting for that person to drop in our lap, right? And and sometimes it happens that way, but most of the time it requires us putting ourselves out there, putting ourselves in the right places, in the right spaces, with an open heart, with vulnerability for that relationship. And then secondly, sometimes it requires us to lay down who we want that to be for who God is calling that to be. That's so true. And it's it's it's like we know who we want that to be, and we put our eyes on that person and we miss everything else that God is doing around. And so I encourage you to show up, be present, and be available. Be open, be open who God might be.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Be open that's you to be a friend with and reach out to first and have courage. It takes courage. We're we're afraid of rejection. But if we trust God that this may be someone that God has to be a friend for us, then we we can step out with courage.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

It's incredible when we see the um the vulnerability that Jesus shared with his disciples, that he takes them, especially that inner circle, Peter, James, and John, he takes them up to the mountain of transfiguration to show them his glory, and then he takes them into the darkest depths of Gethsemane to show them his grief. And when we see that level of vulnerability, Jesus went first. He showed us first. Andrea, as you were studying this material, what is the one thing about Jesus' friend that really ministered to your soul?

SPEAKER_01 25:58

I the rem the beautiful reminder that our relationship is rooted in love. My relationship with him is rooted in this beautiful, passionate pursuit kind of love that saw me in my greatest need and and came and made a way. And I just think that's so something that if we've walked with the Lord for a long time, we can forget. Or maybe it it grows old or we're just kind of thinking, yeah, he loves me, but the reminder of his deep and abiding and sacrificial love on on you know, my behalf so that I could have a relationship with the Father, so that I can remain in him, so that I can truly love others. I think that that was just so beautiful for me. And then when we talk about those concentric circles, the the final reminder was how Jesus was so invested in the faith of his disciples, like constantly challenging them, preparing them, helping them to grow, helping them to be ready for what was going to happen in the days ahead. And then I thought about that for myself. You know, we all have these journeys, right? And we can look back and we can see the hand of God, we can see the faithfulness of God and how he was working in the midst of that moment, and we didn't even know it. We didn't know how he was preparing, how he was positioning, how he was repositioning, but he was all doing that according to a plan that is rooted in love. So it was just this fresh wind for me of love and faith and commitment and obedience and faith that says, Lord, here am I, send me. That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

Man, I loved, loved that moment with Andrea. It was so challenging to me. I mean, she the way that she uh associated our friendship with Jesus as also being our missional purpose, sending us out. I had not ever made that connection. I mean, being actually being a friend, if we are friends of Jesus, then part of our mission is to be a friend with those who are also called according to his name. That's really powerful for me. And that's one of my takeaways from that conversation.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Me too, and a great reminder. I love it. Yeah, and all that he did for us, that he's the best friend. And we we model after that.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

For sure. And I as I look back at that episode, I I think about those who really need that in their life, they need that love. And so um that may not have it. Like we talked about concentric circles and this tier of friendship and then this tier of friendship, but I think about the women out there that may not have one friend that's close or they're pretty isolated where in their marriage, or something's happening where they just don't have a chance, they have small kids and they can't go out and and you know, make friends. So I want to I want to hear those people and encourage those people that if if you are, if you don't have a friend and you need, you want to find friends is what kind of what Andrea said. Like we we walk with the Lord, we remain in Him, and and then we also uh are brave and we go out and maybe to a Bible study, we ask God like for friends and ask ask for a circle of friends and or even one good friend, godly friend, and go to a women's Bible study, um, research ways, ask questions at church. If you're not in a church, seek out a church that has women's ministry, women's Bible study, and even something like this study, Friends and Sisters, where where we're learning and talking about how to make friends and then what to do when we're in friendship.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

We're so glad y'all could join us for this conversation. And we hope you'll come back for our next conversation with Agosa. We're gonna be talking with Agosa Iamu about how we see each other as friends and sisters, about how friendship is initiated by actually seeing someone else and learning how to do that well. So pick up your Bible study, friends and sisters, study with us uh through the week in Scripture, and then join us for a conversation about being friends and sisters.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

Thank you. Thank you for listening to the Friends and Sisters Podcast, Executive Producers Tina Bosch and Angie Elkins, producer Chelsea Walk, Engineer Donnie Gordon, edited by Caleb Hooping Gardner, Art by Chelsea Walk and Shyla Shufflebean, Photography, Emily Bergeron, content editor Lara Magnus. For a deeper dive, check out the Friends and Sisters Bible study book that accompanies this podcast, linked in the show notes. Your hosts are Tina Bodge and Paige Keaton, recorded at the Lifeway Podcast Studio in Brentwood, Tennessee.