What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Coach Chijo podcast. Real conversations about volleyball, coaching, growth, and the journey behind it all. So let's get into it. Just go. Welcome to the podcast today. Thank you. Yeah, we have an amazing special guest today. And high fives are my thing, right? So we have Chris Haynes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And what do you do? We're in Vegas.
SPEAKER_00Yes, not gambling. We're actually here for a volleyball event. Volleyball, yes. Yeah, volleyball. So uh this is a top court event, and um Coach Chijo is actually here being awesome and just uh experiencing for the kids, so we're excited to have you here. Yeah and excited for the tournament.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so it's Emperor's Cup. Yep. And uh how many courts do you have?
SPEAKER_00So we have I think 52. 52 courts, which we have Emperor's Cup, we have UA18s, and then we also have the VLA, which is the kind of semi-pro men's and women's. So we have a really good mix, which is really cool because that's Vegas. Uh just a mix of mix of stuff, so it's fun.
SPEAKER_02Okay, okay. So are you running all the courts by yourself?
SPEAKER_00No, so we have a really big staff that uh we have a tournament desk, and there's a lot of prep that goes into um when you come to a tournament, you think everything's already organized, everything is a thing, but it it's about a year and events that you're planning.
SPEAKER_02Really? Yep. So all these players that are coming in, coaches are just walking in with their coffee and ball bags, and they think, oh, everything's all set up, they just play and they just go home. They're probably not thinking about what goes into it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're not. It's a lot. We're even talking about next year's event, I've like talking about signing next year's so 2027, but like typically it's a year in advance, you're getting the contract with a convention center, you're paying your deposit, and then at that point you're reaching out of clubs, you're creating it in AES. We use the advanced event system where we do um where all the scoring and that's where you sign up. So that's actually last August. So August of 25 is when people actually signed up for this tournament, and now it's actually May of 26th. Um, so that's almost a year ago that people actually sign up for a tournament, and all the prep that goes on from that point when they sign up. Um, it's a lot.
SPEAKER_02Okay, what's the most challenging thing that goes into putting on a tournament?
SPEAKER_00Uh obviously making sure that A, it's a great experience, but uh making sure the courts get on, get delivered, the courts get set up, um you've got our vendors setting up, um, organizing the vendors, um, organizing signage, going talking to the convention center, making sure we have Wi-Fi, we have electric, all the other stuff that people don't even really think about, making sure our admissions work, we wristbands, uh medals, t-shirts, so it's a lot, but it I mean our goal is for people to walk in and never realize that there wasn't anything in this convention center about two days ago. So that's that's when you look at you know you've run a good event, you know you've run a good event when people walk out and say that was we that was a great tournament, um, and decided to come back next year.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you don't want them thinking about anything that was uh not going well or anything.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you it does like if you if the tournament's not well run, if the schedule is kind of messed up and you the refs aren't good, like that's what people are gonna remember. So even like when you're pulling in and it's easy to park, easy to get a ticket, easy to find their court, that's what you really look as. It's a customer experience. Um I know the kids are playing, but it's the parents that really decide what tournament they play in. Um so for us it's really make sure the parents have a great time and the kids um walk out with a t-shirt and a smile.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so in all the stuff that you do, I mean, how many tournaments do you run each year, each season? Because it's a lot.
SPEAKER_00It's a lot. So um I took over top court about a year ago, and then I also own a club in Tennessee, which is K2, and we run tournaments there. So we're probably doing anywhere between 30 to 50 tournaments. This weekend we're running three tournaments at the same time. Um, I'm obviously in Vegas, but we have one in Tennessee, and then we have one in Pennsylvania. So there's a lot of logistics that you no one really knows about, uh, just to make sure that when the doors open and the first game is is happening, um everything is smooth.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so you seem so calm. So calm. But you've got three tournaments in three different cities. Yep. And you're running what 30 to 50 in any given year, and you run a club. Shout out to your club.
SPEAKER_00Yes, uh K2 Volleyball. Yep. Uh Knoxville, Tennessee, and uh we have a beautiful six-court facility with Terraflex that we built about two years ago. So uh kind of a small market, but we have a lot of kids that play for us. Um, and you know, we just try and compete at the highest level, and and we have all different levels, and uh we just for us it's just kids learning the game and loving the game and getting better either for middle school, high school, or college. So kind of that's our goal for club, and then keep kids out of trouble. At least we know it is, and at least they I mean if they're with us for a couple days a week, um we know that they're not doing stuff, and um and then we try and treat it as a family, and that's the way I look at my tournaments. They want to feel like hey, it's part of the family, I'm part of top court, I'm part of K2, and that's a big thing for me just personally, that it it's a good experience. I feel like they're part of something.
SPEAKER_02I feel like I mean I'm I'm here and I feel like it's comfortable.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Yep. It's comfortable, yeah. And I'm sure that that has everything to do with what you do to prep for it, right? Yes. Okay, so all this stuff, you seem very, very calm, right? Do you ever go home and you just want to pull your hair out and eat a gallon of ice cream?
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, there is. Um, because there's always stuff that goes wrong that no one really sees, or like, oh gosh, we forgot to do this, or like we had bag tags and and the loops didn't show up. Um and just stuff like that that you A, you have no control over, but you just do the best you can. So we ordered loop, we ran out of wristbands yesterday, so we drove around half the city finding wristbands, but again, no one really knows, but you just do what you you can to make it a great experience, and and people that are here don't even know that.
SPEAKER_02So I didn't know that nobody knows that.
SPEAKER_00Nobody knows that, but that's the whole point. Yep, yep, right? Exactly.
SPEAKER_02Okay, do you ever go home and you're like, I just want to cry? I don't know if I can do this anymore.
SPEAKER_00There are some days, yeah, especially when you're planning 50 tournaments, and like I'm kind of in the planning stage of 27 right now. So even though I'm still running 26, uh, we're looking to 27 and making sure that everything is logistic, like contracts are signed and everything is set up, and we're talking to teams about coming. Um so it never really ends. Like you never feel like, oh, I'm gonna get a break after our tournament season's done. Um, it's not the case. Uh you there's a you're always looking to the next thing. So it's a lot, but I love the tournament side, I love the experience for kids and parents. It's just I love the club side, but I really love the tournament side.
SPEAKER_02So you gotta really have a love for what you're trying to accomplish at the tournament, otherwise it could just seem like a big job.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Work.
SPEAKER_02Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_00Does it feel like work? It does. It yes and no. Um, it's a lot because obviously if you're doing stuff during the week, but then you're working on weekends, so it could feel it feels like I've worked seven days a week. Yeah. And then uh then the next week I've worked seven days. So it really is, you do feel like, hey, like, especially when you're in tournament season, um, I've probably had two weekends off the last three months. Um, but I'm doing something I love, so it doesn't necessarily feel like I've worked, I don't know, 30 weeks in a row.
SPEAKER_02Do you ever go on vacation?
SPEAKER_00We do, so yeah. Um, and that and I think that's important. Like you have to have kind of life balance. Uh obviously my kids are grown. I'm actually a grandparent now, so my daughter just had her baby, so congratulations. Yeah, yeah, being able to like mix that in and be able to spend time with her, and then we've r really tried to do a time where hey, we're getting away completely. I'm obviously from Australia and I have a lot of family that still lives there, so yeah. Uh we we've gone there a couple uh went there last year, we'll go there this year for a wedding.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, you know, something like what I'm doing now with my brand and all the videos and the followers and I didn't plan any of this.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It just sort of organically happened. I met people, things happened, and it just happened.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02So now I'm traveling, you know, two, three times a w a month. Yeah. But I have a kid in high school.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. One year. Yes.
SPEAKER_02You know, I have a son in college that I d obviously don't naturally see as often already because it's college. Yeah. And then my wife's at home.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And sometimes I just I want to be home.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you do.
SPEAKER_02But then the draw of what am I accomplishing when I travel, like here at this tournament.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like I I think I've taken a thousand photos.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And these kids are coming, like they tell me, I've been waiting all year to hopefully come to a tournament where you are.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, and that's what feeds me. So I'll do it. But yeah, it is a struggle behind the scenes, you know, that people don't know. Like, I miss my family, I miss my son, I miss my dogs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I do I have three dogs too. I do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I have two dogs, Rosie and Daisy, and I I just I miss them. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So there are times like I I don't know what to do. Yeah, you ever feel like that?
SPEAKER_00I do. Um it because it is a lot, and I think you just like I know that like you said, those those kids, it's such a big deal for them for you to be here. Um, and that's why I really I love the fact that you're kind of helping being part of Top Court as well, because it is, it's it's an experience, and I know when those kids walk out, they met you or they had a great experience with the the tournament. But it is because like tomorrow I'm planning the next tournament, or tomorrow you're planning wherever you're going after that.
SPEAKER_02And I'm going to Arizona.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I always say that if we've helped one kid or you've made a difference to one kid, it's worth it. That's I mean, that's the way I look at it, and I I having met you, I feel like that you've made that kid's day or made like that kid's life, then you don't know, you may never see, but it's it made an impression. So I think that's why sports is so good for kids and just keeps them doing something they love, and then maybe they'll get the opportunity to maybe be in college or maybe just make the middle school team. Right. But it's it's positive, and especially for girls, um, some sort of positive reinforcement and and self-esteem. I think that is a big thing for girls.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Okay, so you have kids.
SPEAKER_00I do.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Did they play volleyball?
SPEAKER_00They did. So they did. They uh both my girls uh played volleyball. My oldest actually played at Nebraska.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00So she uh she was a starting setter for five years. Okay and had a you know had a really good experience. Um she met her husband, and now obviously she's the one that just had a baby, and then my other daughter actually played at Pepperdine.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um so they both, like I said, uh went through K2 and uh got the opportunity to play in college. Uh they both got their masters paid for, uh, and they both coached at the college that they played at. So that's kind of a really cool, um, a really cool thing. And and my son actually is um he's in uh college at Middle Tennessee. He's actually helping with the women's program. He's just gone to school. But my goal as, and I'm I'm very blessed with this, is my kids grew up in the gym, they grew up around volleyball, and now they're doing it as part of what they do in life. So I think for me that it was a positive, it was positive for them, and it was a great experience, and and all the positivity like being part of that, they invested and now that's what they do as adults.
SPEAKER_02Were you a coach when your daughters were playing?
SPEAKER_00I was so my husband actually coached them in club, and I actually coached them in high school, so they got a mix of mum and dad. Uh Nicklin and Kaylee, both my daughters, like they we won like six state championships at Tennessee. I know, so they had a really good high school experience, and um, I really tried to make high school fun because the club was so serious and they were playing at such a high level. Yeah. Um it was it was more fun and playing for you with with your friends and just getting disperience, and we had a very successful run um at the at in the in the high school level.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so parents coaching kids. This is a topic that comes up. People ask me about it, how do you handle it? Like we have a coaching community online membership. Yep, and they ask me, you know, I have a kid, I want to coach, I want to coach the kid, team that my kids are on. Yeah, but then perception is reality, you know, what are the parents gonna think?
SPEAKER_00Did you have to ever struggle with playing time and your daughter or I was it is a struggle, and I mean, as a club, like for us at K2, we really try not to recommend coaching. We were really, really best because my girls were good. Um, but it's been in a situation where we have coaches coach their own kids and they haven't been good. Um and it's really like you're not gonna you're never gonna win that battle to me. Like you're never gonna win it. It's either you're too hard on your own kid or your kids playing. Um, and I think sometimes you've got to let your kid play for someone else. Um, that's always kind of the way I feel. And my kids really kind of like when they were little, they never played, they never coached for us. It was really kind of when they got to the high school level, they just happened to be at the high school that I coached at. Um and then my husband coached 18, so the kids had already kind of gone through multiple coaches before they played for my husband. Um, but it is hard, and there's it's really a no-win um either way, to be honest, in coaching your own kid. And sometimes too, you don't want it to affect your home life. Um, which is super important. Yes, yes. And my kids have had some times where dad got mad, and I mean, but it's uh and ultimately it's just a game, and you gotta try and remember that. Um, but it is a tough situation.
SPEAKER_02Okay, have you have ever during your daughter's careers, uh whatever age, did they ever come home from practice and they're just completely emotional or down or even crying or like, hey, leave me alone, upset.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they did, and we like I always looked at it as you know what, they're gonna have days that it's gonna be tough. But my lesson is like life is tough. Like not that and that like you give them a hug and then tell them it's gonna be okay, but like there's gonna be the one thing you have to let them fail, and you have to let them have struggles, but then you give them a hug and say, you know what, life is sometimes tough, but it's gonna be okay. Um, so that's kind of the way that we would look at it, and it was, and so that you have tough days, and I mean uh Nicklin played in two national championships that she lost in five. Oh, and so as a parent, like that's really tough, but you know what? Life moves on, and there's a lot of kids that would never get the opportunity to even play in that game.
SPEAKER_02To even be close to that.
SPEAKER_00To be even close to that, so yeah. So look at that, like what a great experience you got to be in that game.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It may not have turned the way you, but it you there's your value is still the same whether you won or lost that game.
SPEAKER_02So wait, say that last part again.
SPEAKER_00The it's the value is the same whether you won or lost that game.
SPEAKER_02Okay, I want everybody to hear.
SPEAKER_00Yes, I still love you the same. Whether you won in five or lost in five, your value as a player and as a as as my child is the same. And that's the key. It's like wins and losses really don't matter. It's how you react to that and how you move on from whether a win or loss.
SPEAKER_02Okay, because I think they're gonna be parents out watching this or listening to this podcast, yeah, and they forget it's just a game. It is just a game, and it's so intense, and it's almost like they want it more than their kids. Yep, yeah, then that creates a whole different weird dynamic, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It does, and I think that's a lot of the reason why kids walk away. Or we have kids that say, and multiple kids will say, like, my dad was a baseball coach, so I stopped playing baseball. Or my uh my dad was a basketball guy, so I switched to volleyball.
SPEAKER_02Um I had one of those players. Yes. I kind of made a dad upset because I switched his daughter to volleyball.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Um, yeah, and I think it is because they just don't and uh we always talk about the ride home.
SPEAKER_02Oh, tell me about the ride home because I I have kids, right? So right now I have a sophomore in high school, yeah, and and he's soccer, okay? Yep, all out. Yep, he wants to go all the way, he is so dedicated to it, right? Yep, and I never know what to say. Win or lose, it's like this awkward atmosphere. I mean, he may be even eventually watching this, but like as a dad, there are things that go through my head. I want to hug you, but I don't know if you're gonna get mad because you know you're all like 16 now and don't want to hug. So I want to give you your space, but man, you're my kid.
SPEAKER_00And and it is hard because I feel like you always want to say, Wow, you you may you could have done this or you could have done that, or like I love you regardless, and that sometimes they don't want to hear that either because they've either lost a game or they feel like they didn't perform. I think sometimes silence is the best option, or to just not talk about it at all. Like, and I think kids now, if they want to talk about it, they will. Uh, and I I think that that's kind of the way I would look at it. I would just be, hey, if you want to talk about it, we can, or if you don't, you don't. Um, but I think that's um that is I think why a lot of kids walk away from the sport in general, just the ride home and and what the parents do that's maybe not the best to be doing. Yeah, and they feel like as a parent, you're always you're trying to do the best you can, and you feel like you're helping your kid, and sometimes you're not.
SPEAKER_02You feel like you have to do something.
SPEAKER_00Yes, you do.
SPEAKER_02So you're saying on the way home from the next tournament or game, I'm driving home, my kid's sitting in there, he's not talking, I'm not talking. And it's total silence all the way home, and you're saying that's okay.
SPEAKER_00That's okay. That is okay. And uh because it could their kids gonna remember that whether they won or lost, that you still took them to the tournament and still took them home and still love them the same.
SPEAKER_02And fed them dinner.
SPEAKER_00Yep, fed them dinner.
SPEAKER_02And said goodnight.
SPEAKER_00Yep, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, now I feel better. I it was always so nerve-wracking.
SPEAKER_00It's yeah, and it's hard, and uh I I don't I mean, uh, it's my parents, they I mean, I grew up in a tiny little farm in Western Australia, and my parents maybe saw me pay five times, and I played for Australia, and I got to play over here on I played at Oregon State. They love me whether I was playing or not playing, and I think that is something I've really tried and instilled in my kids. Yeah. And in in our club and and our parents. Um it's it doesn't, it doesn't that your value is the same whether you lose win the national championship or win your middle school game.
SPEAKER_02You still love your kid. Yep. You're my kid, I'm your parent. Yep, yeah, we're a family.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02Wow. So okay, that was worth like the whole time talking to you. And I think you've just saved me. Oh, good. So I want to give you a hug. It's our welcome. I mean that just to hear it from somebody else, you know? Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah. Because I always feel so like I have to do something. Yeah, or I'm doubting myself, you know. Am I not doing the right thing by not saying anything? Yeah, but it's okay.
SPEAKER_00It is okay. I think sometimes silence is the best thing. Or you know what? I love you. I'm glad I got to drive you home or to the tournament. I'm gonna use that. Yep. Okay. It is hard. I mean, because it is, you feel like I don't know, but uh and I think a lot of it too is that parents live through their kids now a lot. Yes. I mean, I almost had the opportunity to like I played a demonstration sport in beach volleyball, and I almost had the opportunity to play in the Olympics, but it's like my value of whether I did or not is the same. Like I got to travel the world, I got to play for Australia, I got to do all those cool things.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But like being a mom and being a grandma, like those are way more important and the time with my parents and the way my parents brought me up. It's just something I got to do and it was amazing, but it doesn't, it wasn't who I am. Um so you mean I walked away probably when I was young, I got married. Um a lot of people say, well, you could have had an opportunity, but I walked away because I knew like I played it and it was amazing, but I was on to the next thing. So and then I got to I had a lot of people invest like at coaches in me, and I knew that that's what I wanted, I wanted to invest in kids. So that's kind of now I'm in full circle running events, but um just a lot of people invested time in me, and then I wanted to give that to other kids and my own kids and club and events.
SPEAKER_02So okay, I think I already know the answer to the question I'm about to ask you, but what gets you up in the morning?
SPEAKER_00Uh making a difference, like whether it's running an event or kids in our gym, like making a difference and knowing that what we do is positive. And and it could be that we know never actually see the whole the fruits of the positive, but knowing that we've made an impact to someone.
SPEAKER_02So or maybe plant a seed for that to come and grow later.
SPEAKER_00And it may not be volatile, it may be you were a positive influence in my life, and that changed me somehow to be positive or go this direction in my life.
SPEAKER_02So Oh, okay. Yep. Because I can think back to some players. You know, I can think of one. She may be watching this at some point. Okay. But I coached her for three years at 12U. Yep. Fourth, fifth, sixth grade.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Emerson. Shout out to Emerson. And then I coached her in high school.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02And now guess what she's doing? She's coaching volleyball. No. Well, she was coaching for a little bit.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02She's now an FBI agent.
SPEAKER_00That is awesome. Well, and then that's the thing though. It's like just amazing. Um, and the and the the experience that you get from like organized sports or get from being on a team or having to work with others.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00She's taken that to like an amazing job.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So I have another one. I don't know if I should be saying this, but her mom at one point called me. It was this player I coached at four teens and said, because I have all these different funky rules.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And one of them is the C rule.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02So before, during and after competition, you don't eat anything that starts with a C. Yep. Like candy, chocolate, um, cola, crap.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I like that. That's a good rule, actually.
SPEAKER_02And they always say, Well, what about carrots? I said, Well, every rule has an exception. She called me to tell me that her daughter is now a nuclear scientist on a military submarine and still follows the C rule.
SPEAKER_00That is awesome. Like, what? That is so that's a good one. I like that. We might bring that one into K2. Yeah, I call it the C Rule. Yeah. It is, it's fueling your body. It's just like fuel, like you have to. Yeah. I think that is, we've we've really tried to push that, but it is like you fuel your body. You like you like volleyball, you go out on the court and you spend all that time training, you do lessons, you do all that stuff. But like that is like the eating part is so important. Just like lifting is important and physically keeping the whole athlete. Yep, the whole athlete.
SPEAKER_02And I and I don't know if a lot of people realize this, but what you eat feel feeds your your brain and your mindset.
SPEAKER_00Yes, a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_02It's not just like bulking up or calories to burn. Like your mindset changes if you don't eat well.
SPEAKER_00Yep, it is 100%.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So getting back to top court and your events, which I am excited about. Yes. I hope I get to come to more.
SPEAKER_00That's the plan for 27. So we're gonna when we post the thing, when we post our like tournament schedule, we're gonna post when you're coming, which ones you're coming to. Awesome. That's gonna be fun.
SPEAKER_02I'm having so much fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So for all the people downstairs, playing on 50 whatever courts, 315 teams. Yep. What it when they're going home, driving home, flying home, walking home, what do you want them to have in their minds?
SPEAKER_00Um, I would be like, this was one of the coolest events we played in this year. That would be my goal. Because you're not necessarily gonna you're gonna remember the wins and losses initially, yeah, but you're gonna remember the walking in and the courts and you and watching the VLA, watching the pro team and the outer system boys do the doing the little mini court, like, oh, and the really cool t-shirts, that's what you're gonna remember, and that experience, and that's what I want people to, and it was a well-run tournament, and we got to play because the wins and losses you're not gonna remember, but you're gonna remember the experience that you're not. Yep, so it's the experience, the experience, yep, and to me that's the most important thing, and that they're gonna walk out of here with a positive experience.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, that's amazing, and I think you're doing a great job at it. So, high fives all around for that. Thank you for your time. Yeah, you're welcome. My honor to be able to spend time chat with you.
SPEAKER_00Yes, thank you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, and I hope we get to chat more.
SPEAKER_00Yes, me too. So, yeah. Okay, but thank you for coming too because it means a lot you being here for this tournament.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's fun. Yes, yeah. I think I gotta get back there because there's probably a lot of.
SPEAKER_00I know there probably is a line from yes.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, I gotta go put on my smile again.
SPEAKER_00And that does mean a lot, and it's just sometimes you could be the highlight of their day or their year. So always remember that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I try you know, I'm gonna go off on a little bit of a tangent, yeah, but all these kids that come up, they I try to high-five on, they want to take photos, yeah, but they've only seen me on like a little screen, right? On a phone.
SPEAKER_00Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_02And I feel like this is my opportunity to really close that loop and give them the real life connection.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And so, sure, I can smile a lot for some kids, and then I'm tired, so I don't smile as much for others. Yeah, but I make it a priority to do that smile and engagement and high-fi for every single kid because that's that one moment for that player.
SPEAKER_00Yep, it is.
SPEAKER_02I have to remember that. Yep, and it and it's exhausting.
SPEAKER_00It is exhausting.
SPEAKER_02That's why I have to eat well.
SPEAKER_00Yes, I know, and that's yeah, the C's, you gotta follow the C's.
SPEAKER_02It's all, yeah, it's for life.
SPEAKER_00It is, it is for life. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I'm gonna go downstairs and try to put some more smiles on kids' faces.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_00You're welcome.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Appreciate you being here today. Keep learning, keep growing. And remember, let's play volleyball because it's fun. And we'll see you in the next episode. Just go.