Finance and Firearms with Sesh

A casual conversation with Sesh on firearms, finance, business and bullets.

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Speaker 0:00

Welcome back to the Royal House of Goose. It's going to be on guns, small businesses, oversights that are often cause corrected with simple things that are well known in the trade. And of course, general advice on how to get into the gun world, how to pick a good gun, and and how to be responsible with it. As always, you can find us on X Substack. What else we got? We have a very unique merch store now. Please don't look at it if you're a therapist. No, we will not explain. Yes, we're fine. You have to give fair warning before we begin with this particular episode. My buddy is very knowledgeable, but this is not going to be PG 13. So if you have young ones, you might want to dodge them on this one because the conversations will start to get more real. So, Sash, you want to start with a little bit of your background? Yeah.

Speaker 3 0:48

So uh I was born and raised uh just southeast of Houston, Texas, uh, throughout the 80s high school, moved to New York, graduated there, went to the military, went back to New York after the military. Uh, I was an automotive technician and a commercial insurance broker for well over a decade. And then I I decided I wanted to come back home to Texas. So I uh I worked hard, took the last of my money, and uh I came back to Texas, bought the house I grew up in and got myself into the firearm industry, what I love.

Speaker 1:22

That sounds nice. Buying the house you grow up and you can cover everything in plastic, use it as a summer home, and forget everything and that exists.

Speaker 3 1:30

Yes, sir. Yeah, the house is well lived in.

Speaker 1:32

All right, so you you were telling me how the insurance was private, so I don't have to ask you about the transition from you know military to corporate and how hard it was to not murder Becky.

Speaker 3 1:44

It was difficult. Even even though it was private, it was still difficult. How so? So in the military, there is a I'm not gonna say it's a level of professionalism. We call it a level of military bearing, where the only thing that matters is the mission. So when things are hectic, you're not necessarily looking at your coworkers and saying, you know, please, may I thank you, or being polite. You know, it's I need this, I need it right fucking now. And then nobody takes offense to that because we all understand it's all for the mission. Whereas when you get out into the the the public world, the civilian world, now you have to factor emotions into the people you're dealing with because they don't all have that same level of military bearing, they don't have that mission-objectified viewpoint. It's it's my feelings are are equally as important as the job I'm doing, and I can't that's still to this very day difficult for me to deal with in the workplace.

Speaker 2:48

This is why I want military and HR. Just oh my god, though Becky said this. Call them both in. Hey, so uh, you guys gonna do your fucking job or what? As per my last email, is just call her a cunt, Susan. Just call her a cunt. You'd save a lot of time.

Speaker 3 3:03

Exactly. Like, you know, obviously, I'm not sitting here saying you should just go out and wantonly disrespect your coworkers. However, you and your coworkers should understand that the objective is always more important than what is going on in your head. That that's the whole reason why you're at work. It's because that company's objective is all they're worried about. All your other shit going on, keep that to yourself. We all have it.

Speaker 3:32

Didn't the military bureaucracy have a problem like that in World War II? Because they had all those stamps for different levels of critical and nothing was getting done. And then what was his name? Admiral Lee just stamped everything like critically urgent or something new, and everyone freaked out and got it to them immediately.

Speaker 3 3:49

Yeah. All right, so that that's that's one of the things that I uh I really one of the few things I've missed from the military, and it's understanding that a corporation's objective is all they care about. All the all the stuff you have going on, keep it to yourself. We all have problems that we're dealing with, but we have to be able to compartmentalize those things so that we can be as effective as possible at the job we're doing.

Speaker 4:17

I mean, this is why HR is there. It's to keep, you know, the lowers from bothering the C-suites, because I promise you, the C-suites are not treated the same way. It's literally their company to literally manage their human resources, it's not theirs, your friend.

Speaker 3 4:32

Yeah, yeah. No, that that's that's that's a big misconception in business as well. People view their co-workers as friends, and I'm like, you can't confuse those two. Understand, regardless of whatever happens, your friend that friendship isn't going to put food in your stomach. That friendship isn't going to find you another job should you lose yours. You're there to make money.

Speaker 4:58

It's like, no, the fuck we're not. No. Red Five family.

Speaker 3 5:02

The moment you don't feel I'm effective, you get rid of me. I can't do that with my family. I can tell them to fuck off, but that's not getting rid of them.

Speaker 5:11

So, on the matter of you know, urgency in the military, you said you were navy, right? Yes, sir. So uh is is hurry up and wait still technically urgency when you've got a I don't know, sweep rainwater off the deck while training.

Speaker 3 5:29

Every single task in the military is treated with the exact same level of importance. And the reason why is if I'm busting my ass to get every single thing done in the moment there's an emergency, this is just commonplace for me. I'm used to this, so that makes sense. Yeah, that that's how the military operates. They're also big on a repetition. If you do the same thing the same way every single time, you're gonna get the same results.

Speaker 5:58

Is it 11,000 hours to master something tactiling?

Speaker 3 6:04

Yes, yes, uh, at the very least, and that's with somebody with you know a pretty good level of comprehension, someone that picks up things pretty easily. I would say the average American needs closer to 20,000 hours to be considered a true expert at whatever chosen field they're at.

Speaker 6:19

Makes sense, especially with social media kind of distancing people's attention spans. Social media is the worst.

Speaker 3 6:25

I I like certain aspects of it. Obviously, it allows you to connect with people from all across the nation without having to spend ridiculous amounts of money in traveling. However, social media, the internet as a whole, but social media in particular, in my opinion, since its inception, has given everybody a place to live out their alter egos, it has given them a place to act in a fashion either they can't or won't act in their regular lives. And to me, go ahead. It's high school. Well, it's it's worse than high school because in high school, right, you see this person for months on end, and whatever facade they put up, you see right through it. Whereas online, you're only getting the portion of them that they want you to see. You don't have that physical interaction, so it's a lot harder to distinguish between people who are exactly who they say they are and the vast majority, which ain't shit.

Speaker 7:25

I just I don't understand it. It seems like being a fake two-faced bitch takes more work than just being consistent. It's always baffled me.

Speaker 3 7:34

It absolutely does. Uh, Time magazine did a study, oh shit, well over five years ago, maybe seven, eight years ago. And the study was along the lines of laziness. Now, I I read the study, and the basis of it was anyone who who looks at a task and decides to do a task a different way, other than the way that you know it's commonly done, generally spends on average 60% more energy and brain power just figuring out an alternate method to complete the task. And and a lot of times this is bailed under the guise of laziness, but this study shows your laziness is causing you to work harder.

Speaker 8:19

Stop being fucking lazy. You know, I was actually a Times person of the year in 2006. I don't tell a lot of people that, but I'm very proud of it. Oh, that's awesome, buddy. Yeah, yeah. I think we all were actually, you'd probably throw that on your resume. Yes, we can. So you went from uh, you know, the the private insurance world to business management. You were talking about how you before you started your own, you rebuilt and and restabilized a bunch of these failing businesses. What was the the main theme of them and what was the main thing that they were lacking in?

Speaker 3 8:52

So the the key element that I found in these businesses, which became profitable after I joined them, was they had great ideas and leadership that only focused on the bottom line. And that, in my opinion, is is counterproductive to putting out the best possible product or service. So most people need to understand that in business, right? Anytime you're providing a product or a service, you have two different sides to that business that are always fighting against each other. You have production, which those are the people that are either making your product or providing your service, and then you have quality control. Those are the people that are verifying that the product or the service meets the company standard, you know, what the way the company wants to project itself. So the the first business that I went to was a perfect example of this. The gentleman, his name was Chris, he had a very, very good business. I mean, his firearm company, he was a manufacturer of AR-15 platforms in particular. He had national buzz. There were several high-profile reviewers of firearms that had done reviews on his firearms, and there were some negatives that were found. And like a good business owner, he addressed every single one of those complaints and he rectified the problems within his platforms. So when I got there, he was actually producing a very, very good rifle. I mean, it was among the best in the industry. However, he was always wrestling with the bottom line. So all the guys in the back were we were all veterans. When I got there, everybody pretty much just stuck to their job. And what I noticed was the boss would sacrifice quality on certain parts, and they might not have even been key parts, a bolt catch, a magazine release, whatever. But he would sacrifice quality for price on some of these parts. And the first couple of times, you know, we installed the parts and we checked in how it interfaced, and it was okay. It still fell within our parameters of operation. But then little by little I noticed he was doing it more and more, and it started to bleed into key components like barrels, gas blocks, bolt carrier groups, things like this. And finally, I told him, you cannot expect me to believe in your product and put forth that belief and honesty to a customer when I don't trust your product because of the quality of parts that you're buying. And we sat down and he looked at what I had to say and he kept saying, Yeah, but the bottom line, and I I explained to him, sir, you don't have a bottom line when people stop fucking buying your guns. So if you want to build this and you want people to want your platform, you have to make it as good as you possibly can. If you sacrifice and cut corners on one little part, well, that starts to bleed into the rest of the gun, just like we saw over the past few months. And so I made a deal with this this owner. I said, let me make ensure the quality of every single component of these rifles for the next two months, and I guarantee your business will be in the black. So he agreed. And from from for the next two months, I verified the quality of every single component he purchased that we weren't manufacturing. Even the ones we were manufacturing, I verified the quality of the metallurgy. Uh, after two months, his wife and him called me over to their office. They owned a delivery service. Uh, it starts with a C. What's it called? You're you're asking me about modern pop culture things. Courier. No, a courier service. That's what it was. They they owned a courier service. And so from the inception of the firearm business, right, until that day, that courier service had been funding that firearm business. Now, mind you, they were making a lot of sales, government contracts, law enforcement departments, all that, but always taking a loss. At the end of those two months, when they called me in, my boss's wife looked at me since she ran the courier business and she she gave me a $5,000 check and a huge hug. And I said, What's this for? And she said, For the first time in battle rifle company's history, it is profitable and it's entirely due to you. Obviously, everybody doing their job is part of it, but you figured out how to make it profitable and not just operational. And that meant a lot to me. And it also let me know that I was on to something, and that's that's how it really started, brother.

Speaker 13:41

Did you find it was a similar uh issue with the other businesses that you brought out of the red? Absolutely.

Speaker 3 13:46

Absolutely. Pretty much every business I went to, you had the same thing happening. People, people look at the AR-15 platform and they believe they're all the same. Okay. And you know, it's not hard to understand why. They look extremely similar. I mean, a $4,000 AR sitting next to an $800 AR, you're not going to tell a whole bunch of difference. Aesthetically, it'll look a little different, but it's going to be basically the same shit. And so that that's kind of what you start seeing in the AR business is people just they think they're all the same. So they think they can make it look like a really expensive gun, but fill it with cheap parts, and it'll still operate the same. And that's just not how it goes. If you're going to provide a product or a service, you have to make sure it is the very best quality from top to bottom. And then you figure out how to make it at a competitive price without sacrificing that quality. And that's the secret to the gun game, folks. Provide a good gun for a decent price. But yeah, every single business fell into the exact same uh into the exact same pitfalls. Uh, I even had some who I proved my method works. I established an entire manufacturing rifle manufacturing line there, a personal defense weapon manufacturing line there, as well as a custom coding uh department. And I developed my own custom coding technique. I'm brown, it's flashy, it's called gun porn. The day, I swear to God, the day after I created this, the owner's girlfriend comes up to me and she goes, What do you call that? I said, Gun porn. The very next day she showed up with trademark paperwork with their names on it and not mine. So I gave them a couple more months because I'm a man of my word. I made sure they were profitable, and then I left. Two months after I left, she decided that she wanted to increase prices by 20% of all the platforms that I had set forth for them to manufacture. And they also, yeah, they also wanted to increase the cost of all coding jobs, which I set these prices at specific points for very specific reasons because it's what the market will bear. But that business went out of business about eight months after I left. They were profitable up until she made those changes, and then it all fell apart for them.

Speaker 16:09

Now, I have to ask this this particular young lady. Yeah, did she perhaps think that Armalite stood for assault? As a matter of fact, yes.

Speaker 3 16:22

Myself and this this lady, we we bumped heads quite often because to be fair, she was a very nice person. However, she was always somebody's wife, and that's not a bad thing. But what that means is the person she was with prior to the owner of this business, he owned a construction company, and that gentleman built his construction company to be successful. She had nothing to do with that other than she was married to him, but to her, that meant that she was part of the reason of the success. So she always brought that out when we'd be talking business. She was like, Well, I ran a successful construction company, and I'm like, ma'am, you did not. Which leads me to a big point business. Be honest with and about yourself. Because everybody sees the bullshit, folks. You cannot lie to people.

Speaker 17:16

Well, enough to salute her.

Speaker 3 17:18

Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, definitely not. But but that was the whole point. The whole issue was she thought she was a lot smarter than she was. Mind you, while she's telling me that she ran this business and it was successful. At night she was getting tutoring from a college undergrad on business and economics 101. So I don't know how you run a successful business and you still need someone to teach you econ and business 101.

Speaker 17:44

So I uh I had a friend, I'm actually gonna see if I can get him on here. I don't want to say too much about it for now, but he he became a chemist. His father was a very successful merchant in the private sector when it came to, you know, licensed chemicals, all that type of shit, right?

Speaker 1 17:57

Uh-huh.

Speaker 17:58

But he also had kind of that salt of the earth, you know, mentality that comes with common sense and hard lessons and street smarts and all that shit. And when I first asked him about guns, he told me straight up that there were two things you needed: a revolver and a Smith and Wesson. And if that Smith Wesson jams, you had the fucking revolver. Do you uh do you hold a wheel?

Speaker 3 18:22

No, I disagree with that statement to a certain extent. I agree with the first part. Everybody needs a revolver. However, that revolver should be a Smith Wesson revolver. Colt makes great revolvers, right? But Smith Wesson has never had issues with light primer strikes or failure to fire or parts internally disintegrating. They make a very robust, reliable revolver. The second firearm I believe everyone should have is a pump action 12 gauge shotgun. If you're small or old, get a 20 gauge. But regardless, a pump action shotgun and a revolver will never fail you if you buy good quality. If you buy, you know, a $75 shotgun and you go get some Saturday night special revolver, don't get mad when that shit don't work.

Speaker 19:15

I mean, you know, we're working on this Founding Fathers Privy Council, and we've had to do some weird deep dives into the founders. And there were there were so many assassination attempts on some of our early presidents with people who were stacked with, you know, four or five guns loaded, flint locks, to arbitrar, what do you call it? The the things that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, the spraying praise. Muskets? No, no, no. The uh it started with an A. It was like shotgun type deal. It was before they had proper rifling. I don't know, but they still have that. Shotguns are still smooth board for the most part. Oh hell, this is gonna drive me nuts. It'll it'll it'll come to me. But you know, they had you know four or five of these locked and loaded, every single one jammed. And it didn't just happen one time, and I'm just sitting here thinking that's gotta be an act of God at a certain threshold.

Speaker 3 20:07

You know what I mean? Well, that was that was the reason back then why the AA-12? No, that's a full automatic shotgun. But, anyways, that was the reason why people carried so many firearms back then was because it was an imperfect science. You didn't have precision machinery creating these firearms. No, you had people rough uh pouring barrels and then hand sanding and filing. And you know that when when you have humans manufacturing precision instruments, there is a lot of variance. Okay, we're not as precise as machines are, so yeah, people would carry multiple guns. Number one, they were one-shot deals for the most part. So you if you wanted to shoot somebody more than once, you had to have more than one gun because they weren't gonna sit still for like the next minute while you reloaded. Number two, yeah, very rude of them. I'm sorry, very rude of them not to sit still. Yeah, I know. Bastards, but number two, firearms did fail regularly, and for that reason, you carried multiples because in nobody wants to pull out a gun and hear click. Right? Nobody. After World War II, well, really prior to World War II, but realistically for the most part, after World War II, American firearm production got to a point where you didn't ever really have to worry if that gun was gonna jam or go off on its own or fail to fire, whatever, you know, whatever failure you you might encounter. We we ramped up our production capabilities and our precision to the point where now it is a reliable tool, no different than your hammering your toolbox.

Speaker 21:57

Yeah, I I do have one uh personal. Vendetta against guns, if we're going to be completely honest. You know my background, you know I'm into history and especially European history. I mean, the fact that, first of all, you had a Taoist alchemist trying to create a curative elixir, blows himself up, makes gunpowder, you know, then you've got this evolution into the sappers and the Greek fire and all the crazy shit, all the way up to Martha. And it really does show you how it equalizes everything. Are you familiar with the passenger pigeons? Yes. Yeah, they used to swarm and blot out the sun for hours, and then the punt gun comes along and they're extinct in three years. Bro, have you seen one of those on a boat?

Speaker 3 22:40

Like the same length of a boat. I had a buddy, he was a collector a couple years back. Gentleman passed away since, but uh, he had one, but he didn't have a boat. So one day we were sitting out on his farm, and he was like, you know what? I want to try this thing out. And I looked at it, and for a minute there, I was like, Yeah, sure. But I was like, you know what, buddy? How about we dig a hole? Okay, and we shove the back end of that gun down into that hole. So when it goes off, neither one of us need to go to the hospital. And uh he agreed, he thought about it for a minute. He was like, you know, that's probably a good idea. Let that thing off. It was it was a cannon for all intents and purposes. That is a cannon. It's a grape shot fucking cannon. He was loading it with nails, little shards of metal that he had, pieces of tin that he had snipped. Like uh it was just scatter shot, basically.

Speaker 23:37

You strike me as someone who would have put rifling on a potato cannon when you were younger.

Speaker 3 23:42

As a matter of fact, that is a flaw I've always had. I have always tried to make weapons better.

Speaker 23:49

Ever since I was a little kid. Rules of engagement are gone. You're in the private sector now. Have fun with that patent to bet.

Speaker 3 23:55

Yeah, you say that, however, there are a lot of rules that I had to learn the hardware, hard way. Number one, apparently you can't booby trap your house, which to me is fucking stupid. I already found the loopholes to it. Well, you know, I've tried a whole bunch of different things, and I have some friends that work at three-letter agencies, and I asked them questions, and they're like, Chris, you will go to prison if that happens. Understand that. And you're not gonna go for like a couple years. No, you're you're probably gonna spend the rest of your life in prison if you let that happen. I'm like, oh well, shit. So I guess the Americans should have the legal right to scuttle their house in a pinch. I'm just saying, 12 gauge round igniters, right, with drip strings on windows, that is better than any alarm system. Because yeah, the alarm system isn't gonna stop you from breaking the glass. You're still gonna break it. It's just gonna make noise. However, it's up to you whether or not that noise bothers you. Whereas with my method, the moment you get into that glass, you just kirt cobained yourself. I have no worries about anything being missing now.

Speaker 25:09

You do know what the trick is, she's is you gotta use uh non-firearm-based techniques. Because if you look up the definition of booby trap under Black's law or any form of uh trapping pertaining to lethal trapping, it's all very clearly defined and it's cross-referenced by your state. So, for example, in New York, I know my woods like the back of my hands, right? I know where every pit is, I know where every rock is, every stone, every major, you know, potential trail. And it it just so happens that I may or may not, in a pinch, know where to run around that would have a non-boom-boom-y effect and prevent any pursuit. See, but therein lies the difference. You're talking about being oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. Oh, no, just just for legal purposes, allegedly, hypothetically, war gaming in my dreams get a warrant. There you go.

Speaker 3 26:01

So the difference of what we're talking about is you're talking about out in the woods somewhere. I'm talking about in the state of Texas, you cannot place anything inside your house that will cause any kind of injury to anyone should they break in without you physically activating it. That that that's that's the issue that I have because, well, I mean, I I have a lot of firearms in my home. Uh, police are a reactive force, they are not proactive. Police show up after shit happened. If you're lucky, they might show up while shit's happening, but statistically, they show up to take a report and start an investigation, not to stop a crime in progress. And so for that reason, I'm I felt I should be able to protect my home. Like that, that's I don't want to hurt anybody out on the street, I don't want to hurt anybody on the sidewalk, I don't even want to hurt people on my yard. But once you get into my house, well, I want to snatch your soul.

Speaker 27:04

Well, I had a similar problem in Louisiana at the time. I didn't, you know, have firearms, so you had to get kind of creative, right? And on the way to do that is uh, you know, natural things happen and laziness lets them stay. So, for example, if I had a fan by the side of my sliding glass door, which by the way, guys, get broom handles for your sliding glass doors, they're they're very, very easy to latch open. You just gotta kind of pull up and shimmy. It's it's a whole thing. But I found that you know, if you drop a wine glass in the the little slot of the open part of the sliding glass door, and you walk on it enough times and it just becomes a fine powder and you're just too lazy to clean it up, but the door can still open and close. And you know, you you have your fan set to go on at night when you, of course, you know, go to go to bed and you want your house nice and cool for the morning. Well, anyone who slides open that glass door or shimmies it or breaks through and comes in, well, that's just a whole fog of crazy powdered glass for no reason, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 28:05

Yep. You see what I mean? So in the mechanics industry, we have something similar, but you can apply it all the same. And what we do is we take an old use spark plug and we break off the metal ends, and all you're left with is a chunk of porcelain, and then you powder that and you set it inside of a sandwich bag. And what most mechanics will do is they'll have it sitting in the door of their vehicle while they're driving. Somebody starts messing with them, hang that bag out the window, let the wind catch that dust, and anybody's glass behind you turns into spider webs. So if you were, yeah, ceramic is super sharp. So if you were to take that same thing, right? Suspend that bag in front of a fan and have that fan activated by a trip when that door opens, exact same thing will happen, but you're gonna shred their their eyeballs.

Speaker 28:56

Yeah, but the trip is where your problem comes in because that suggests premeditation. If you just have an automatic fan blowing by the door for circulation that you turn on before you go to bed, well, that's not a trip. And if someone doesn't come through the door, well, there's no reason why the the porcelain at the base of it would ever fly up.

Speaker 3 29:14

What about a door opening sensor? So you know when you go to a business and you're walking up to the door and it just opens magically or it unlocks magically, well, there's a sensor in the ceiling. What if you pull one of those sensors that when it's activated, it cuts the fan on?

Speaker 29:28

Well, uh, you would reasonably just be making it so that it's nice and cool when you walk into your house on a hot day.

Speaker 3 29:35

Exactly. I would set it say it so you know, when my dogs come in from being outside, as soon as they walk in, the fan cuts on to cool them off.

Speaker 29:42

Yeah, yeah, very reasonable. But no, like, you know, we we talk about this, I'm gonna say in jest, even though in Louisiana it was, you know, what what it needed to be. You get very creative when you don't have access to firearms, and at the time I just didn't. But no, there's there's always a method. There's always a method. Absolutely. When I live in the whole thing with the e4 mafia, isn't it? That they have that creativity of a Disney engineer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 30:07

Yeah. So if you want something broken, get an E1 to an E2. If you want something fixed after it's broken, or at least operational, you get an E4. If you want it done right, you get an E5.

Speaker 30:23

So who do you get for the people who will continually optimize shit that shouldn't exist in the first place?

Speaker 3 30:30

I mean, those are that that's not military now. That's that's private people. That's you got some nerds out there that just can't leave well enough alone. It is what it is. And I'm not mad at them, bro. I appreciate their their hard work and their innovation. That makes it easier to kill people.

Speaker 30:50

I mean, the worst thing that happens if you do get too creative is you'll get a knock on the door by the Department of Energy, classify the patent, and force you to sell it to them. And how terrible you have money now in a contract with the government that you get to set up.

Speaker 3 31:04

Or you're now an employee of the government.

Speaker 31:06

Well, that's more along the scientist line. You know, sit in this fucking constructed village and don't ask questions or fuck off in the abyss.

Speaker 3 31:15

But we saw we saw a lot of in the cybersecurity sector as well as in the firearms sector, you saw a lot of people either committing crimes or just flat out running circles around the military scientists and the government scientists. And those people, you know, they were given a choice. You can either get in trouble or come work for us. And that that arguably has made or has bolstered those two industries within our government to to you know the levels that we I I don't think we could have exceeded or reached without those people.

Speaker 31:54

So traditionally you have the the great triad of hatred, right? Because the engineer hates the architect, the mechanic hates the engineer, and it goes on forever, right? What what's the equivalency of that in the gun world?

Speaker 3 32:10

It's the same. It it's the exact same. The engineer, the architect of the firearm, if you will, you have to understand they're they're developing reliable, complex mechanisms within a very confined space. And a lot of times, let's say HK, for example, their trigger return spring is a little coiled spring with about a centimeter of ear on either end of it, and you have to force this down into a hole that's maybe a millimeter larger than that spring on any side, but you can't fit anything more than the tip of your pinky fingernail in that slot to place that. When you're sitting there trying to do a trigger job on an HK, you curse out that engineer 35,000 times. However, when you go and you shoot an HK and you feel not all of them, but you feel the nicer models, you feel that crisp, clean trigger pull, that positive reset, you understand why the engineering is the way that it is. And it's the same for mechanics, brother. We curse engineers and all these guys out. Oh, they don't know what the fuck they're doing. But if you sit back and you look at what their mandate is, what they had to work with, can't really blame them for why they did what they did.

Speaker 33:37

So I'm just gonna throw something out here real quick because there's there's two major problems I have with two-way people, right? And this goes back to no one reading four pages. You've seen me on TikTok. I started the trend of everyone calling each other stupid till they read it, right? Yeah. The first is that they forget the first part of the Second Amendment, which is the militia. They don't realize your HOA's a militia, your school board's a militia, everything's a fucking militia, right? So then they want to talk about, oh, well, how come the government's regulating? We used to be able to have rifles in schools on our trucks and this and that. Well, what happened if little Timmy showed up to school with a rifle and was doing fuck fuck shit with it? Even miss scoring it, missloading it, the rest of the community would say, Timmy, you're a dumb cunt. We're taking that, right? That's your militia, and that's gone. So when the government steps in to start regulating these things, you can't really, and fuck them forward, right? But you can't really get that uppity about it when you've believed this idea that the militia is a bunch of, and don't get me wrong, it also partially is. It depends on the sector, right? A lot of different types of militias, but it's not all Billy Bob with a shotgun in the back end of his moonshine distillery waiting for you know blue hat motherfuckers to show up on his doorstep to have some fun. Now, partially that's there, that's gonna happen regardless of the militia, but that lack of community is where you see these exterior regulations kick in.

Speaker 3 34:58

I agree. Uh, I'm I'm kind of an outlier in the 2A community on this specific point. I am not a 2A absolutist. I absolutely agree with portions of the NFA and certain firearm laws. And the reason why is much like you know, driving laws, these things didn't come about because somebody decided to be, you know, uh oppressive. No, these things came about because people prove themselves to not be as responsible as they should be. It just is what it is. When we start looking at firearm laws, let's say the NFA in particular, people are like, well, suppressors, full automatics, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, these things shouldn't be regulated. And I'm like, Well, let's analyze that. Number one, suppressors, I agree, there's not really much of an issue there, except if I want to do dirt in broad daylight, all I need is a van with tinted windows, a 300 blackout, subsonic, and a suppressor. 300 blackout, you can buy a bolt action rifle chambered in that for a couple hundred dollars. So now the only thing that is allowing me to be quiet and shoot people in public without being seen or heard is that suppressor. I see the good in these things, but I also see the bad that humans have proven themselves to do.

Speaker 36:22

Yeah, but even a mob that's legitimized, right? Take Louisiana. Louisiana used to be very and still is to a degree, right? Managed by the remnants of the Bratva and the Casa Nostra, the legitimized sectors, right? So they have ways of running things where they say, We're not gonna do this, we are gonna do this, and if we get into it, we're gonna get into it at 2 a.m. You shouldn't be in this area anyway. Everyone fucking knows, and then they handle their business and try to avoid civilians, right? A little different than you know the Yakuza or any of these fuckers that are a little bit more messy, which nothing against them, but not not something that I think is adaptable.

Speaker 1 36:57

Yeah.

Speaker 36:58

But but perfect example when I was there, MS-13 started flooding into New Orleans, right? Yeah, and you immediately saw if you paid attention, and the only reason I knew this is because you know, I'd I'd if if someone was having a rough day, I'd bring them some food. You know, you never know who they are. They got when one of the homeless people got me with the I bet I could guess where you got your shoes. I was out 20 bucks, but I paid it in good faith. That went a long way in the underground world. Yeah, so you know, you you start catching bits and pieces of news, and all of a sudden, here we have the Broadburn and the Casanostra realigning themselves in a militia fashion to rip these fuckers out of the town. Because MS-13 doesn't respect, you know, don't go after kids, don't go after civilians. They don't respect, you know, don't shoot each other in broad daylight in the French quarter, don't do bullshit at at you know four in the afternoon during a tourist attraction. So you saw that. You saw those common values align even among the legitimized crime syndicates in this country to form a militia to push out that incursion. And I look at that and I think they can do it, but your neighborhood watch can't. They can't figure out to I just I don't understand. It's it seems so fundamentally lost to me that the people who legally and rightfully own and manage firearms in a responsible manner, to an extent boating accidents happen, right? Can't do the same fucking thing. Because they don't pay attention to the militia bit unless it's we're gonna shoot down an F-22 with a fucking musket with a bayonet. It really is just dreadfully confusing to me. The other thing, too, I don't know if this is the same in the fireworld, she so so tell me. But back when I was collecting you know medieval knives and whatnot, because I'm a historian, right? There were some that I could only get because I was a historical collector, right? That was kind of the way around, not that I had any other intention other than collecting it, but that was the way around being able to get, for example, a tri-blade knife with a poison back from the the late Japanese eras, yeah, which is against the UN. Now, is it a similar thing with guns?

Speaker 3 39:03

Yeah, so in firearms, those are called curio and relics. So you there's a lot of really wild firearms out there that they're not necessarily legal to use, and really like if they were made in modern times, they wouldn't even be legal to own. But because a lot of these are so old, they fall under that curio and relic title. And so you can you can find some of these really obscure items that I mean it's it's for all intents and purposes, a weapon of destruction, but it's old. So yes, you can absolutely source things because they're old and and and they're relics.

Speaker 39:46

And if you're dumb about it, you know, and you want to do fuckfucks, it'll probably blow up on you.

Speaker 3 39:51

Well, yeah, yeah. People need to understand bullets today uh in old, old firearms. I'm talking about like firearms over 75, 100 years old. Chances are that firearms are not gonna hold up. And the reason why is the proofing, the rating that that chamber is set for in terms of pressure, it doesn't generally align with modern ballistics pressure ratings. So yeah, you're you're gonna blow your shit up.

Speaker 40:17

So the the other issue, because I told you I had two with the two-way people, is well, real quick, brother.

Speaker 3 40:23

I wanted to address something you said before. Um when you started talking about this. So, in terms of like we said, uh firearms and and people wanting them all to be basically just legal, like you can have whatever the military has to quote them. It's stupid. In this country, in this country, at 18 years old, you are allowed to go to a firearm store in most states, right, and purchase a long rifle. So a bolt action, an AR platform, anything with a stock and a barrel length of at least 16 and a half inches. If it's a shotgun, or I'm sorry, 16 inches. If it's a shotgun, it's 18 and a half inches. You can go buy those things, but you cannot buy a handgun yet. You can be in possession of a handgun, but you cannot go purchase one. And I tell people, it seems like very simple and stupid rules, but think about it. Why did they make it that way? And it's very simple. At 18 years old, your frontal cortex isn't fully developed. You still got at least another five to six years before that thing's fully developed, which means I'm still not making the greatest of decisions. So now, if you have the ability, because your hormones are raging and you had a disagreement with your girlfriend, and the guy across the street's looking at you crazy and your emotions are high, you can't just run to Walmart, buy yourself a pistol, and go shoot that kid. I understand people feel like it's an affront to their rights, but all of these rules are put in place because people have done dumb shit throughout history that has proven these rules need to be in place for the vast majority of the public to be safer. People need to get freedom and safety are a sliding scale. The more you have of one, the less you will have of the other. That was what I wanted to address, brother. Go ahead.

Speaker 42:25

But I still stand on the fact that if you know there was more communal militia accountability, there would be less dumb shit, there'd be more training within the communities, there wouldn't be a need for, I mean, probably at extreme level, but there'd be less of a need for government intervention if people just fucking manage that. I mean, look at what happened in in New Orleans. I hate to keep going back to Katrina, but to this day, I can't side with the government on what they did when the people of Gretna, after the the Superdome turned into a literal goddamn murder circus, right? A butcher's circus. They stood on that damn bridge as a community with firearms loaded and barricades up, and they said, You are not coming through here because they saw what happened to New Orleans proper. And after all that ended, Grantell was able to rebuild. And mind you, it's not that that was the only way out of New Orleans either, because it really wouldn't have taken you out of the disaster zone, to be completely honest with you. But at the end of it, all those people were were prosecuted for defending that bridge. And no part of me, I'm sorry, will ever be on board with that because seeing what happened to the rest of New Orleans, it's the definition of self-defense to me. I I just I can't back them on that.

Speaker 3 43:44

I agree with your point on that specifically, but earlier you had stated some of your examples were in the mob. Now the mafia absolutely took care of their neighborhoods, but let's not confuse why it was done. It was done. Because if there was less police attention on their neighborhoods, there was less chances of them getting caught doing the shit they were doing. You understand?

Speaker 44:09

I'm not pro-Mafia with this. I'm just saying that because they've become, you know, white collar, because they've become legitimized, that these skirmishes are controlled and contained between them in the modern day. The fact that both of them, who have this long-running contention with each other, were able to set all of that down and push out MS-13 is where the uniquity of it came in, right? Because they said this will destroy our community. Get the fuck out.

Speaker 3 44:35

Yeah, no, you're correct. And that that is one of the few, very few admirable traits of the mafia of old, was they always took care of that immediate community. In terms of the average civilian that had nothing to do with the criminal lifestyle, they had a nice safe place to live and work. There were some exceptions, yes, but that was a byproduct of what they did. Obviously, it was they were terrible organizations, they took advantage of businesses and all kinds of things, but there were some key good points back then.

Speaker 45:10

Well, of all things, post-legitimization, you mostly see them now in things like accounting, legal contracting, and insurance. Let's be real about that. Banking and insurance is a lot of it, but it's all legitimately done. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm still gonna stay the fuck away from them with a 10-foot pole. But the fact that even what is considered the grayest of the gray legal area groups that hated each other were able to set that aside to to secure themselves against this incursion, and the entire community speaks volumes.

Speaker 2 45:43

Yep.

Speaker 3 45:44

Yeah. And to speak to that insurance thing, you're 100% correct. When I was in insurance in New York City, you would sit down because, like in when you're a broker, you you're meeting with whole groups of other brokers, you're not just going in alone, nobody has that much money, not in the insurance industry. So you get together with these groups of people, and there'd be times where we'd sit down, and I'm looking around the table, and I'm like, Yeah, you've killed people before. You can look at these guys, you're like, bro, that this isn't your regular hustle. You're doing this shit for the police. It was fun. It was fun. But uh, but yeah, also to speak to what you were saying as far as why the average community can't, you know, do what they did in Louisiana by coming together and and and blocking that bridge and protecting their community, it's very simple. The only time that John Q Public is going to be allowed to act in that fashion by the American government is when the American government can't do anything for the situation. If the American government has the ability to remedy that situation or at least effect a change within it, and John Q Public steps in armed and imposes their will, that that's a direct violation of the law. Like that, that's exactly why you don't see that anymore. We've been regulated out of standing up for ourselves.

Speaker 47:19

I told you I did six months in in life insurance.

Speaker 3 47:22

Yeah.

Speaker 47:23

And I I stayed the fringes until I was like, fuck this, I can't. And I just I got the fuck out, right? Life and health is a tough racket. But the worst of it, and this is the type of shit that you'd think that the bad actors of old would be doing in these industries. It's not, it's the greedy modern civilian motherfuckers that are doing this. I'm sure you're familiar with dead peasant insurance, yeah. Yeah, that shit's crazy. I mean, Walmart, you know, out of the goodness of their heart, is hiring the disabled and the elderly, but then they, you know, they obviously have the inevitable happen to them one way or the other. They're insured for $10,000. The company lumps 10 of them together, you'd think it would be a $100,000 life insurance settlement. It's not, it's a million-dollar life insurance settlement, and they make $900,000 off of everyone's death. It's like so if you have insurance provided by your company and you're not going to make friends doing this, but request that insurance information, especially if they pre-sign you up, because it's it's nasty business. Ain't no one's going to make money off my death. I don't like that you can take out a policy on someone without their knowledge, but you can also find that policy and shut it down.

Speaker 3 48:31

Absolutely. Go to HR and request what's called a daily. All right. A daily is a copy of your specific insurance policy, which is to be kept on file and provided to the insured at their request. So it's something that's there for you to get and look at. Now I will say, don't sit down and try to read an insurance policy without speaking legal ease. Because if you don't, that shit's not going to make sense.

Speaker 49:00

Yeah, we we had Bill come on to talk about black slot and and legal verbiage and all that. And if you guys, if you missed that one, it's the first episode lesson in. I think it's legal ease with Will Fowler, but that that to the side. The other major problem I have with you guys, I don't go two-way guys, right?

Speaker 1 49:18

Yeah.

Speaker 49:20

There's one thing that never made sense to me. So we all know that the 18th Amendment was quote unquote struck down by the 21st, right? Yeah. And you and I both know that it wasn't really, right? Because you got these Sunday laws, you've got the ATF. Here's my thing the ATF came into existence more than 20 years after the 21st Amendment was ratified, right? Yes. States that are mostly federal land. Like Nevada's cocked. I'm sorry. They're their governors absolutely cocked by federally owned land and tribe land. Like they they just do what they're told, more or less. And it it just it baffled me because you look at the two-way contentions with the ATFE, right? Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, explosives. My main problems with the T because that Botox bimbo bitch up north is costing me damn near 22 bucks a pack. Like fuck that shit. Like you look at this thing and you look at the ATF's charter and you realize that it was initially built around alcohol. Here's where it gets fun. In all the time that Two A's been screaming and the ATF and the ATFE, they've been taking it up the firearms level, right? Now there's no protection against tobacco. There is against alcohol. So what I don't understand because they can't rely on precedent with this, right? That's the whole thing with with the the guns, with the F, is there's oh, there's there's precedent to go off of and this and that. There's no precedent for a civil lawsuit against the ATFE on the basis of illegal or unconstitutional arrest in those federally owned lands inside of the states. And this happens all the time as a violation of their 21st amendment right. Now, here's the kicker to it. Without precedent, they have to go straight to the constitution. Now, all these years it's never been done, which is mind-boggling to me because they don't pay attention to it. Now, you take that to the constitution, there's no precedent to rely on. They go straight to the constitution, they go, okay, shit, this is bad. You're most likely going to end up with an order to rewrite the ATF's charter. Now, the reality is that for that to happen, since it's not SES protected, if that happens and that charter is dissolved, Congress now has to make a new one. The people can pressure what the fuck goes into it. And for the life of me, I've never understood why all these years later, no one has ever challenged the A. It seems like a slam dunk, and there's not one attempt. I I looked through this, I looked through all these court cases. There's there's cases where they're challenging, you know, illicit smuggling. But if you have a license in state A, and you have a license in state B, and you're moving alcohol from A to B legally and properly, and you get pinched for some bullshit while on federal land in state A or B, that is the federal government imposing a violation of the 21st Amendment. Now, don't get me wrong, this isn't a hell I'm gonna die on because it's not my fight, and I just like to poke holes in legal shit that pisses me off. But if you really look at it, why have none of these two A advocates ever thought of that? Like there's there's no legal case that has ever come up to challenge this on that basis, and it blows my fucking mind.

Speaker 3 52:28

I'm thinking about it. I'm not coming up with any reasons why anyone hasn't, other than it's well, you're gonna have to take the loss for there to be damages to you for you to to to bring forth the case. Because like you can't just bring forth a case because you feel like it. Like you have to be the victim of what you would consider a violation of the constitutional law. So I don't think anybody's really willing to take that plunge. Maybe, maybe I should plug you into a couple of buddies of mine who are they're they're wealthier individuals within the 2A community, impose that to them because they're guys that do shit like that. Like when somebody's like, oh, you know, you can challenge this law based on this, but you're gonna have to get in trouble first. Well, they'll go get in trouble just so that they can do shit like that.

Speaker 53:18

But that that's a very good question, man. I appreciate that. I'll be honest, like I said, it's not the hill I want to die on. But hey, if if they want to watch this and they want to consider it and look into it, I'll just because you you know me, I'm I'm a pedantic prick. I like to find loopholes, and half the reason I made sure everyone learned the constitution was so I can ask fun questions like this and actually explore it, right? It's a little selfish, but also you know your rights now, so shut up. And it's just oh no, how terrible it would be if the ATFE had to, you know, rewrite its charter and suddenly the T has to be reclassified, and suddenly it might not be a an excise vice tax anymore because we live in the modern day, and oh shit, no, Miss Hoko can't charge me $22 a pack. You you see where I'm going with this? Like if someone takes it up, yes, it helps their whole community that hasn't thought of this for some reason, but it also lowers my cigarette prices.

Speaker 3 54:08

So I I do see, I do see you would you would your cigarette prices would be lower, but I don't truly believe it's gonna be anything more than a dollar or two, brother. Because if we look at where the vast majority of your taxation comes from, it's at the state level, not at the federal level when it comes to tobacco. Like that's what you're dealing with.

Speaker 54:29

Yeah, but I mean the way I see it, right? Yeah, no one in in 40 years has thought to try this, and that's that's what really just knocks me sideways is how the fuck are you gonna not try this, right?

Speaker 3 54:40

No, like I said, it's a great, it's a great query. Like I as soon as you posed it, I was like, son of a bitch, why hasn't anybody tried that? And I'm sure there's a reason. I just don't know it. And I would really like to talk to some buddies of mine and see if they'd be willing to try it out and see what happens.

Speaker 54:57

You want another one that might bring back duels? Go ahead. I'll listen. So uh basically, right, February 20th, 1839, Congress banned duels in DC. That sets the precedent. Before that, every state had a code for duels. Now, duels required mutual consent, they required conditions to be defined. And if you look at some of the things that happened in Congress, like Griswold or Sumner, there was reasons things happened, right? Now, and this is this is just to throw shit at the wall, right? Because someone smarter than me might run with this and and get us certain restrictions on free speech back, which might be good, might not be, but no one really seems to think about these things. 1942. There's a case called Chaplinsky vs. New Hampshire, where they decide that fighting words will be classed as governmental punishable words, right? So for example, 18 USC 373, 871, 2386, which I agree with to an extent. You should not be allowed to call for for the direct verbal incitation or command of violence, right? I I do agree with that. I agree. But I also think on principle, just to be a little shit, that uh technically, by keeping them as fighting words, which could potentially induce a duel and allowing the government to punish it, you've now given up the right of recourse to the government. I think that began the slippery slope where we saw things like the acquittal of Gary Edwards in Oregon, who stabbed a man who then called him a slur and got off scot-free because he was called a slur, right? So we've we've now set precedent for hate speech and the whole Marbury view madison thing. But I I feel like it might be a way to at least slow down and gum up the works and and redefine these limiters to stop this. Uh the government assumes they can do it because you didn't say no type deal. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 56:46

Yeah, you're you're right. I'm looking at the uh the the New Hampshire statute, and I I absolutely disagree with one section of it. And it's it made it illegal to address any offensive, derisive, or annoying word. And that word right there, annoying, that's what I disagree with. Because your emotions are now dictating my ability to speak. Absolutely, I agree. No one should be able to incite direct violence against anyone with words. However, if what I'm saying isn't inciting violence against you, I'm not discriminating against you based on one of your protected attributes, it's just annoying to you. Uh, I shouldn't I shouldn't have any legal liability.

Speaker 57:34

Well, yeah, and look what happened to Europe. I mean, in New York they're called vexation laws, but New York's a unique creature because of the municipal law system we've got going on. It's basically New York's an asshole. Yes, it is. There's no nice yeah, New York's a fucking prick.

Speaker 3 57:50

I I lived in New York for a very long time. The last time I was there, I was there for about a decade, and I lived in Queens and in Harlem. And I'll be honest with you, the people weren't the issue, it was the government. Like, I I've been going to New York steadily since the early 80s, and I watched it, you know, go through the crack epidemic, and I watched it turn into a complete fucking shithole. Like late 80s, you didn't go to Times Square. Times Square was all prostitutes, drug dealers, or you're getting robbed. Like that's that's what happened in Times Square. It was like porn stores and shit. Now it's family-oriented, but I watched Giuliani come in and I watched him change the city and and clean it up and make it family friendly, and it was genuinely a safe city to live in, right? Obviously, there was a couple of places you didn't go, but that's everywhere. But what I saw after Giuliani, I saw people like De Blasio just taking shit entirely too far, and now we see they've removed all of those safeguards that made the city a safe place, a welcoming tourist destination, and it is reverting back to the shithole it was.

Speaker 59:04

No, I I agree. It's it's sliding straight. Like I I avoid the city like the plague, right? People know I'm up in Westchester, and I've had some invitations to go down to do some really fun shit, but I'd rather be in the Catskills. You know what I mean? Like there's no reason to be in that fucking jungle. Plus, I have this fear now with take the train down or I take my car down, God forbid something happens, which I want to deal with an escape New York situation. I just I I understand that it's you know 15% chance, and I ain't fucking with it. Especially you know, it's funny and no one talks about this. I screamed it from the heaven, not a one New Yorker backed me, right? I had to I had to get lobbyists from Texas to come in to get the Supreme Court to shut the shit down. If you look at the quarantine isolation and restrict 2.13 and 2.16 in the state of New York, it straight up gave the government the authority to take any person they want on hearsay, intern them in a camp, and even if they took tests to prove they didn't have any contagious disease with no age limiters on it, right? So we're talking it could be a kid with fucking chicken pox on hearsay. It was extensive facial New York. And I was screaming this from the the heavens, and no one seemed to give a shit. I'm like, no one even pulled the whole execution because it's codified law, right? And the Supreme Court finally struck it. Exactly. You know, it's so funny because people want to buy or it in an actual war, they have the right to suspend half their constitutional you know rights and privileges. Just look at the Third Amendment and the way that it's worded, but they get the fucker because I've never in my life had to consider on hearsay, you know, the the government might be able to do that without recourse, and it gets worse too. Because if you look at it, you really look at it look at New York, you know, 20, 15 years ago. They attempted to have a snitch line. Do you know what happened to that snitch line, Sheesh? It didn't hurt. They flooded it with dick pics until it crashed. Now, after COVID or during COVID, towards the end of it, they reintroduced the snitch line to the point where they were even willing to help pay down things like college loans and and grants and shit like that if you snitched, right? But they kept that, even though they struck down the uh the the 2.13 and 2.16 codes, they kept that snitch line. So where are the New Yorkers that sent in the dick pics? Because I want them back. This is this is not my state, this is not the state that Washington was sworn in in. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 1:01:39

Yeah. No, I get it, but like realistically, this isn't anything new. The government has always, well, not even always. I'm gonna say for the past hundred years, the government has constantly tried overstepping their bounds. I have a friend who their family is the reason why Harris County is named Harris County. It was like his great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, right? And they're the same people why it's called Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Like it's all one family. So they own all the land of Harris County, and then little by little, the city of Houston and different cities buy up different portions of the land and develop on it, and that's how that goes. And they're fine with that. You know, they understand for a city to grow, they need to sell portions of land. Well, on one of their compounds, right up the road from my house, the port of Houston is like five miles up the bay from there. Well, the city of Houston actually used Eminent Domain to take half of their their that portion of that property and build a customs house when the pre-existing customs house, huh? They didn't have allodial titles. Well, I that I don't know the details of that. All I know is I watched this family pour a few million dollars into fighting this because there's no reason why that specific plot of land has to be used. Like you can set that anywhere in a five-mile stretch and it's gonna do the same thing. And they lost. The government flat out said, if we deem to need this land through Remin and Domain, you're pretty much shit out of luck. To me, that is stealing my shit.

Speaker 1:03:31

Yeah, but that's the whole point of an elodial title. I mean, they're a bitch to get, but if you can get your hands on one, the mineral rights under your house, the water rights around your house, the airspace around your house, that's all yours. Unless there's an act by, you know, SCOTUS or the highest end of the federal government. No one's gonna touch that because it's co-signed by a state legislator.

Speaker 3 1:03:49

Yeah, I don't think they have that because, like I said, the port of Houston, uh, or I'm sorry, the Houston Ship Channel is right like a few miles up the bay from there, and all day long. You see uh these big ass tankers going by, and there's Coast Guard, there's all different kinds of maritime patrols, and they stay like I think 200 yards off the coastline, but like we were shooting the M249 out there, and uh Coast Guard Vice Admiral came out and he was like, You need to fucking stop. And I looked at him and I'm like, My enlistment ended like 20 years ago, sir. I I'm not fucking listening to you. He was like, You don't understand by order of the United States federal government, you cannot fire that firearm here. I'm like, oh shit. All right, never mind. You're right.

Speaker 1:04:35

Yeah, no one, no one wants to deal with the cop cops. You know, it's one thing if it's a a uniform or a patrol, it's another thing if you're dealing with, you know, oh shit, here comes the FEC and the Pfizer courts.

Speaker 3 1:04:46

Yeah, no, I outfitted most of the departments in the immediate area around me, like three counties around me. So I don't I don't really worry about municipal officers. Funny enough, when people call the police on me because I'm walking around with something with like really big magazines, or it's just a really big gun. Some people call the cops, right? The police just call my cell phone. They're like, is everything okay? I'm like, yeah. And they're like, well, we got a call that there was a there was a brown gentleman with some very big guns, and we figured it was you. I was like, yeah, I'm going to the range. They're like, oh, okay, well, have a good day, Chris.

Speaker 1:05:22

I mean, hell, even if you're out late at night, let's say you work the night shifts, you pick up a pizza on the way back. If you see cops just sitting there bored out of their fucking mind, offer them a slice or two and they'll remember you. It's not difficult to do.

Speaker 3 1:05:34

So funny enough, year before last, I was the general manager of an importer, exporter, and distribution comp company, as well as the chief technical officer, the artillery and ammunition manufacturer, and the general manager of a firearm manufacturer. It was all under the same umbrella corporation. And we sponsored the National Sheriff's Association. We became their sole employees. So I spent the better part of that year just traveling and meeting sheriffs all around the country sitting down, you know, paying for thousand, two thousand dollar dinners for them just to just to sit and bullshit. And that shit pays off. Like there's times where I'll I'll be doing something and a guy will come up and he's like, hey, you're the guy from and they'll say the company. And I'm like, yeah, he's like, hey, you remember me? We were at this so-and-so convention, you did this. I'm like, yeah, they're like, oh well, hey, you ever get into trouble in my town? Give me the call. I'll take care of it for you, buddy.

Speaker 1:06:37

I'm like, my father taught me that pretty early on. You remember people's names, they remember you. And I learned when I was in in in university pretty quickly that if you make friends with the janitors and the mailman and all those people that usually relegate to the background. Same thing with with Congress, by the way. If you want to walk into your state legislator, go talk to the people that everyone talks in front of and forgets exist. Yeah, because I gotta ask you as a as a a man of many colors, let's call it, shall we?

Speaker 1 1:07:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1:07:06

We're not gonna talk about archaeology or the dinosaur with 500 teeth on here, but weird shit does happen.

unknown 1:07:11

Yeah.

Speaker 1:07:13

Right. But I I would argue that the government did do one thing better than the private sector, Mr. Sheesh. What's that? Destroying the black community.

Speaker 3 1:07:22

I would argue that the black community did that better than the government did. Okay, and the reason why is if I set a loaded revolver in front of you and I tell you to shoot yourself for a hundred dollars or a hundred million dollars that I'll give to your family, and you go do it, at the end of the day, you still win, did it. I didn't push that gun against your head and I didn't pull the trigger, I just set it down and gave you the option. Don't blame me for your mistake.

Speaker 1:07:54

Yeah, but you also subsidized it.

Speaker 3 1:07:57

You're hey, incentivizing still doesn't lead to forcing you to do anything. It might entice you, but at the end of the day, the the the decision is still yours. So if the government says, hey, all you people with children, what do you think you can you uh I'm talking about minorities, all right? Trying to be politically correct a little bit. Hold on, let me hit this blunt again and then I'm gonna go ahead and say whatever they mean. Oh, good Lord, that's delicious. All right, so all you black and brown folks, which people I need you to know, I'm one of them. Oh, the I might be both of them, but yeah, all you black and brown folks, right? You have a family and you think you're happy, but you're always broke. How about this, right? Break up, lady, you take the children, keep them, and what we're gonna do is we're gonna give you an apartment. It's gonna be a shithole, but it's gonna be an apartment, right? We're gonna throw you some money for food every month. We're gonna take care of your utilities for you as well, right? And on top of that, there's this thing called a cash benefit that we're introducing. And all you gotta do is keep fucking and not taking responsibility for your actions. Now, I understand that sounds like a really good deal. Okay, you what you mean? I just gotta keep fucking, and there's somebody's gonna take care of my life for me, and I ain't gotta get married and change my name and deal with this motherfucker's attitude. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Except for the fact that when you make that choice and everybody starts making that same choice, you destroy the fabric of American society. This used to be a place where everybody helped raise each other because the saying it takes a village to raise a child is absolutely true. There's only so much perspective a child can get from one household. But a child experiencing different perspectives and points of views and ideologies from hundreds of households, that is a well-traveled child before he ever leaves the home. You understand? You are building a better person because you're giving them the ability to see that there's more to life than just what's in my living room. We've taken that away.

Speaker 1:10:20

Well, you know how I am. I don't hold much with uh racism. I think it's outdated and dumb. Same thing with you know, classism. Elites ain't one unified faction, they mostly dislike each other, right? Like if everything's got nuance except for xenophobia, because fuck France. You can watch the last episode if you want to know why. But you know, it's just I I've reached the point where if you don't read four pages just to know your own rights, you you I fuck you, right? Fuck you, because you can vote away someone else's rights, number one. Number two, it it didn't happen overnight. That's what people don't really. It's not just a laziness of oh Jag officers and and and lawyers will fucking know this. It's it's a literal revulsion. I mean, how many times have we told people to read those four pages? And like, I'm not doing that, why would I do that? That's fucking like that is ingrained, that's created over time, and it's got to be reversed or where fuck because it's the one thing every American has that no one else in the world does. And it irks me that they can't figure that out. So to re-anchor us back here, right? What what advice would you give to someone who's new to firearms as far as you know what to get that's simple, cheap, but respectable enough quality, you know, how to train with it properly, all those types of things. If you're gonna get into the the world of it or even just proper home defense, what what would you tell the good people?

Speaker 3 1:11:37

So, first and foremost, understand the purpose for which you're buying it. Okay, if you're buying a gun to carry with you every day, a desert eagle, meanwhile, it is going to be effective, isn't probably going to be the best option. Okay, you're gonna get tired of that shit real quick. It's heavy. Number two, buy the firearm that fits your hand the best, but do not sacrifice size if you can afford to. What I mean is there's been a very big push in recent years where people are being told that these micro and subcompact platforms are, you know, just as easy to shoot as their full-size counterparts. That is entirely not true. A Glock 43, which is a subcompact, you know, single stack nine millimeter, it's it's meant to be a baby version of a Glock 19. What people don't get is it has to do all of the exact same things the Glock 19 does with less space and less mass, which means that firearm is now entirely dependent on you making sure your wrist is 100% locked. If there's any flex, what's called limp wristing, you're going to induce a failure into that platform. And what we saw with this latest push was people buying those micro tiny guns and coming back and saying it doesn't work, it keeps jamming. It's not the engine, it's the arrow. A full-size firearm is always a better option than a compact. The gun is not there to match your fashion sense. Your fashion sense needs to conform to the firearm. The biggest thing that I tell people when going to buy a gun is they're not all created equally. Okay, they might look the same. And yes, for all intents and purposes, they might fire the same bullet. But the difference is what you see down the road in terms of reliability, dependability. Your $150 high point does fire a nine millimeter round, but in 15 years, that gun is going to be expired. Meaning the reason why it's so cheap is because it's made out of a zinc alloy called Zamac. Zamac has different grades. That is made out of Zamac 3, which is the lowest grade of zinc alloy. It begins to decompose immediately upon being casted, which means you literally are firing a loaf of fucking bread. It's not the same as one of seven combat brands. HK, FN, CZ, STIR, Walther. Shit. C Z HK F N C Ztire Walther. Most of SIG Sour, with the exception of the P320 line. The P320 is a piece of shit. Known by that thing. That if you bought one and you can verify it's had the voluntary trigger upgrade, then it is a decent platform. But prior to that, I I don't trust it. It's too many issues. Okay. And there's another brand in there, not remembering right now because Semmo Stone. Oh, Glock. Sorry, Glock. That's the last one. Glock is absolutely a reliable gun. They're not the best. All of these guns are equally reliable. And their combat grade, and what that means is if after a year of using these platforms, you haven't had the ability to clean them, they're still gonna work. Doesn't mean don't clean your guns. Absolutely, clean your gun every time you shoot it. But in the worst case scenario, shit hits the fan, the apocalypse. You gotta pick a pistol to take with you. One of those seven brands, that firearm is gonna go off every time you need it to. Now you have another grade below that called duty grade. And this is what I like to tell people are home defense guns brands, right? On top of those combat brands, you have brands like in terms of semi-automatics, also Smith and Wesson, you know, Canick, Sarcelmaz, these brands, they're decent guns, okay? And in a lot of instances, they have very good variants, they're just not as reliable and durable as those other seven brands. And it shows in their price points and what you get. Understand when you buy a gun for $600 and it comes with a holster, extra like 10 mags, a whole bunch of extra bullshit. They're justifying the price point with those things, they're not giving you anything. All right. The that is telling you they they were able to give you these things because they sacrificed somewhere in that firearm, whether it's metal injection molded parts or you know, less refinement on certain engagement surfaces. But understand there's a reason why a gun costs what it costs. And if you get a whole bunch of shit with that gun and it's the same price as other guns, it's probably not that great. The final thing I'll tell people when it comes to training, number one, you need to understand going to the range and pulling the trigger at a target is not training anything other than your trigger finger. If you are genuinely trying to train yourself for a defensive mindset, unfortunately, you need to try to replicate that chemical induced response that that your brain gives you in that type of scenario. The only way that I've found in the civilian world to legally recreate that that feeling in that adrenaline and cortisol dump is folks, everybody has someone in their life that can push them buttons. Everybody has somebody that can get you mad enough to commit six different felonies in a five-minute time frame. That's the person you need to get to push those buttons right before you start shooting. Because then you're gonna see what happens when your butthole starts puckering, right? When your brain starts dropping the right combination of adrenaline and cortisol to induce a fight or flight response, you're gonna start shaking, right? Your hands are gonna get really shaky, but you're also gonna lose fine motor skills. Meaning you pull the trigger and you hit the target and you're an inch left of the bullseye at seven yards, you're not making that one inch adjustment. Okay. You're going to try to, and your next shot is gonna be three inches to the right of it because you lose fine motor skills. Also, you're gonna hear things, you're gonna smell things, you're gonna taste the air. When you're really in that mode, you everything, all your senses become really acute. That is extremely distracting for people that aren't used to it. Obviously, there's nobody shooting at you, so you're not gonna have the paralyzing fear to go with it that you have to overcome. But like I said, that's going to come as close to replicating the feeling that you're going to need to prepare for if you're preparing to defend yourself. Pulling a trigger at a target is awesome to remember the mechanics of firing a gun. But when you're training for defense, target engagement, target acquisition, things like that, you gotta be in that mindset. Everything else, it's just for fun. That's pretty much it, man. That's the basics. I can go on for hours about it, but that that's that's the basics of getting into the gun world.

Speaker 1:19:26

Cool. You know, I just want to point out because I can that there's still no regulations on uh trebuchets, ballistas, and poison rings, so that's a win for us old folks. But uh you mind if I I read you one of my favorite memes of all fucking time and forever? Go ahead. I own a musket for home defense since that's what the Founding Fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. What the devil? As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle, blow a golf ball-sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, misses him entirely because it's smooth bore and nails the neighbor's dog. I have to remote in the cannon at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot. Telly ho, lads, the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound an extra shrapnel, set off car alarms, fix bayonet, and charge the last terrified rap scallion. He bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are difficult to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

Speaker 3 1:20:25

God bless you. Bro, I love that meme. I saw that years ago, and that shit was funny. And funny enough, in my house, there's firearms everywhere. They're not out in plain sight. But if you dig your hand into something, there's gonna be a gun there. And in my room, at the very end, right next to my bed, there is an M4A1, so it's got the carry handle, but it's just upgraded in every possible way. But it actually has our government-issued bayonet on it. Like I have an uh an AR-15 with a bayonet affixed next to my bed because when that mag's empty, I'm charging, motherfucker.

Speaker 1:21:09

You said you weren't around for the Florafauna game that I played with Harris and Honey, right? No, I was not. So I I want you to think about this and get back to me on TikTok next time we show up and we're shooting the shit because it got very heated, right? We're we're all familiar with biomimicry of technology with our our weaponry systems and everything that mimic, you know, natural animals and plants and how they behave like the hexagon. Yeah. So the the great question of the day, now that we have drones and all this technology that can do ridiculous shit, basically, at the edge of your imagination, you know, Department of Energy is 20 years backlogged and it's just festive as hell. But the question was, what classifications of gun would become flora and what would become fauna? And the one thing everyone seemed to have consensus on is that artillery is obviously going to be fauna and pistols would be flora. So I want you to think about that. Same thing with the the chat down below. You know, if you guys want to chime in on that and throw it into the sign up and suggestions of what you think, because I I absolutely want to start a fight on this. I want to start a big fucking fight on the floor.

Speaker 3 1:22:16

I would argue the opposite, brother. Actually, I believe pistols are fauna. Pistols and rifles, small arms are fauna, and artillery and you know, major munitions, large caliber munitions, destructive devices, those are flora. And the reason why is nobody walks around with those things, nobody's going out and committing incursion.

Speaker 1:22:40

That's that's precisely what I meant. That the plant might be the fixed artillery. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 1:22:44

Yeah, I was like, no, no, I think the artillery is the fixed.

Speaker 1:22:50

When we started talking about sniper rifles and what qualifies heavy artillery versus what needs to run up to you to bite.

Speaker 3 1:22:57

Anything above 50 BMG is considered a destructive device. So that is the official classification for small arms. 50 BMG and below is small arms. Everything, well, there's small and medium arms, and then uh everything above that is yeah, that's a destructive device. It's considered an excellent depth charge, huh? What's a depth charge? A destructive device, it's a bomb, which would make it flora or fauna. That would make it flora because it's something you have to approach. It's flora, it's a that's that's a plant. You gotta put that somewhere.

Speaker 1:23:33

We'll we'll get into this on take. I'm gonna host a whole live on flora because what I'm what I was trying to do that day, because you know I got bored and I get creative when I'm bored, like developing a saddle for an alligator in statistics class, which I do intend to patent because gas is bullshit. But then you get dinner if it gets out of the right. But I want to lay out a whole animal kingdom phylum and flora system for this, because there's some weird fucking plants, including the ones that have been manufactured that don't exist. You you know what I'm talking about, based off of like the exploding seeds and shit and uh gimpy gimpy, and yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we'll get into that opsec respectively on TikTok. Are there any closing words of wisdom or advice or general bum fuckery you'd like to add in before we wrap her up?

Speaker 3 1:24:18

Yeah, yeah. So I I I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There's always somebody tougher than you, and uh and also just to clear up one final thing, okay, because this is something that's been chafing my ass for a long time, and I finally got somewhere I can say exactly what the fuck I want to say. There are two types of black folks in this country. Okay, there's black people and there's niggers. Them niggas gotta go because them niggas are out here propagating that white people are the cause of all of their issues, and that's just not the truth. The fact of the matter is, civilization started in what is now known as Africa, and since the beginning of civilization, contest them people have been enslaving the defeated people in battles, trading them for as commodities. I understand white people did some atrocious shit, but they were not the ones traipsing across Africa snatching black people up. That was black people okay, in Africa, snatching up other black people and white people, and selling them to the Europeans who were bringing them to this part of the world, the Western Hemisphere. Point number two, there are no black people native to the Western Hemisphere. All of you people that are saying that shit need to fucking stop. Okay, I don't care if it's Central America, South America, or North America. No, every single person with black skin, okay, not like just dark brown, but dark, dark skin, like black people's skin. If you follow the line back far enough, you came from Africa. There's nothing wrong with it, but understand that's the truth. To be fair, everybody's from there, even white people.

Speaker 1:26:26

Contested by Siberia and non-backlogged areas of Latin America and Antarctica, but uh go on. Bullshit. Everybody came. Oh, I will fight you on that for another hour in the next.

Speaker 3 1:26:38

I'll fight you like the third monkey getting on Noah's Ark, and it's starting to rain, bro.

Speaker 1:26:42

Duel? It was an Archibus, by the way. Archibis and Blunderbus. I was thinking of just think about you know bringing duels back. John Kennedy walks into the rotunda. You have offended my nation. So I mean, come on.

Speaker 3 1:26:54

So there's a second gun next to my bed, and it is a Remington 870 shotgun. That's a pump action, but it's magazine fed. They only made this one for a year, and it's really short. It's got a it's got a 14-inch barrel, and I painted it metallic purple with orange and blue flakes in it, and then I did a whole bunch of clear coats with holographic flake on top of that. Yeah, I I called I called that my uh my purple people eater, and that thing sits next to the bed, and that's my blunt, that's my modern day blunder bus. Because as short as that barrel is, bro, I'm not shooting you outside of a room. Like I'll hit you, but it's not knocking you over. Not unless it's a blow.

Speaker 1:27:35

For the record, guys, you know, well, it's not my thing, just as uh, you know, Mr. Sheesh here surely would not understand the significance of certain types of diseased cattle being used in a trebuchet, especially with modern trebuchets that are crazy fucking siege engines with bored rednecks and engineers. I would absolutely understand.

Speaker 3 1:28:00

Yeah. I mean we can get we can get ridiculous. I have a couple of CS gas rounds in that thing. We're all gonna be coughing.

Speaker 1:28:07

Just remember if you're military, wear your socks because it will get uh super faggy.

Speaker 3 1:28:12

Yeah, yeah. Keep an extra pair of socks because it ain't gay if you keep your socks on and you don't make eye contact.

Speaker 1:28:18

You know what? Since we just blew the whole wall off on this shit, one more thing. You you saw the lovely picture of Commodore John Barry, right?

Speaker 3 1:28:25

He wasn't gay, bruh. Motherfucker had a back issue. That's why his hip was popped out like that.

Speaker 1:28:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just, you know, married several women, had no children, and brought men out at sea. There's he was shooting blanks, but he kept fighting. No women because bad luck, but whatever. I digress.

Speaker 3 1:28:41

He was shooting blanks, but he kept fighting.

Speaker 1:28:44

Is there a reason that y'all in the Navy no longer respect Commodore as a rank outside of Ceremony?

Speaker 3 1:28:50

Yeah, yeah, I don't know the reason, but I'm sure there's one.

Speaker 1:28:54

And I gotta that I ask all my my military buddies on here. Have you heard the new Space Force anthem?

Speaker 3 1:29:03

I have not heard the anthem, but there is a uh satellite out here by me because I live really close to NASA Johnson Space Center and Ellington Airfield. So there's there's Space Force guys out here, and I just I giggle at them every time I see them.

Speaker 1:29:18

Well, you know, I I as a Civ, I gotta I gotta respect, especially what what uh I do think there should be a constitutional test at every promotion ceremony because some Jag officers are starting to piss me off with how dumb they are. Some but especially the Marines who don't fucking you know have Jack, but I I have to say this objectively I have screened it through all the branches. I respect Space Force more as an Intel agency, but I'm gonna play for you the Space Force national anthem so our audience can understand why I ask every Navy member friend I have like Miss Mavie whether this removes them from being the gayest branch. Are you are you ready to hear what passed muster? Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready. Okay. Just just just prepare yourself.

Speaker 2 1:30:01

If it's Jojo C, we're gonna fucking mute.

Speaker 1:30:03

That ain't it. Here it is. Can you hear it?

Speaker 3 1:30:06

No, no, I cannot.

Speaker 1:30:08

Let me let me play it on my phone. Cause you know, here here's my thing. I I adore all our military, right? With that, I don't know how this passed muster. I I think I think every founder would have dueled the the secretary of of the navy and the commandant and uh both both Department of War secretaries who signed off on this. So I'd I'd like you to just appreciate. Let me put up on my phone here. I know, I know. I wasn't expecting to figure out how technology works today.

Speaker 2 1:30:38

Oh no, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying, oh like in anticipation of what this song might be.

Speaker 1:30:44

I I can assure you no part of you will be prepared for this.

Speaker 3 1:30:48

If it's the Pointer Sisters, I'm dying, bro.

Speaker 1:30:51

It's raining men. Nope, not the one that redid it that makes it sound fancy. I want the real one. By the way, I do want to see if I can get him on here. Uh his name is Spade of Sparta, by the way. There's a a veteran who started a uh a band and they brought back drinking songs. I strongly recommend anyone go listen to him. And that's not paid, by the way. It's genuinely missed drinking songs in our day. But yeah, no, let's let's put the uh the Space Force national anthem. Sheesh. I I I know for a fact you will be abusive with this information. So I am officially saying I'm not responsible for whatever you may choose to do with this. How does that make you feel? Yeah, that's better than come on a mustache.

Speaker 2 1:31:58

That is better than come on a mustache, bruh.

Speaker 3 1:32:01

Mavvy said the same thing, you know. They're uh their their their official march is called Semper Supra, which is Latin for always above. Yeah, because you're riding your boyfriend's cock.

Speaker 1:32:16

Oh boy, and this is where as a civilian, even though I did do overreach.info, I gotta know my place because bro, that is. I'm just claiming as a gay man that that is something you might expect to see during pride. Objectively speaking.

Speaker 3 1:32:31

That's on par with being a submariner. All right, like you know that's some gay shit. Not with a 10-foot pole. All right.

Speaker 1:32:42

Good God. Yeah, we gotta we gotta drop a rating number on this thing. Shit. So we got some good information. You know, we got uh this is this is uh Mr. Sheesh, everybody. He's one of my favorites. But I gotta remind everyone if you atone police and betty ass bitch, you ain't gonna make friends with military or eastern Europeans. I'm gonna just say that. It get your shit together, America, and put bets in HR.

Speaker 3 1:33:04

You gotta understand most veterans, right, that have the darkest humor, that comes as a result of seriously traumatic events. That in that moment, the only thing you could do to keep yourself from breaking is to make a joke. Like that, that is that's a coping mechanism. So don't think that people, veterans in particular, out here making these crude and crass jokes are just ignorant motherfuckers. A lot of times there's some hidden shit behind that you don't know and you're not privy to. No part of your existence means that I have to disclose to you why I do or say the things that I do.

Speaker 1:33:47

That's why I get along with them so well, because you don't have to explain that shit. It's like a cigar bar everywhere you go. All right, any final uh final sentences here before we shut her down?

Speaker 3 1:33:56

No, brother, I really appreciate this. Uh, you know, I I hope we do this again. If we could do a topic like specific one, because there's so much to say on all of the things we talked about today. I think we really only touched on brief overviews on these things, and they're topics that I really do like diving into.

Speaker 1:34:16

I I intend to have uh a couple of my military buddies on here when I get better at it because that fluorofauna thing, I really I really want to see how intense that can get and just start a military circle jerk with it with everyone arguing, well, no, because that's a goddamn cannon. So you know, I I I live I live for the drama, but you also learn more with it.

Speaker 3 1:34:34

I gotcha. I got you, brother. But this was definitely fun. Thank you so very much, folks. I appreciate all of you listening. And if you weren't listening, you can go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1:34:44

So before we go into you want to do a promotion for any of your businesses or socials or anything, go ahead, it's all yours.

Speaker 3 1:34:52

Absolutely, guys. Please do me a favor, go and check out Hot Mess Scents. That is my girlfriend, Sheila Snodgrass's uh business. She makes jelly wax candles, all natural fragrances, she makes car scents, she makes all the little melting things. She does that. It's all dope. And the best part is, unlike traditional wax, when this falls on carpet or walls, it's not ruined. You just wait till it gets cold and it all peels up as one. Also, Dream Print Creations33, that is a 3D printing business that I have. I do not 3D print anything firearms related, but pretty much anything else. If you need something, you let me know. We'll get it done. As far as the firearms aspect of things goes, you guys can always reach out to me. Motherfucking Sush Lord Spicy on TikTok, Sean Coonery, double O E B T on TikTok. Sheesh, it's Lord Spicy BTX on TikTok. I will always answer all your queries as well as BC Guns on Instagram. You can see a lot of my work. Also see Sanchez3528 on Instagram. You will see a lot of my work, and I'll give you my details so we can uh we can contract some business. Beyond that, folks, be smart. Just just just think about the things that you're doing, and remember, nobody's invincible, and there's always somebody tougher than you. Thank you for that time. I do appreciate it there, Goose.

Speaker 1:36:33

And uh yeah, so we're we're a little bit of everywhere. Check it out. Uh remember to sign up, send in your suggestions. I'm sure there will be plenty of commentary after this one. And uh especially if you'd like to chime in on the floral fauna, we'd love to hear what you have to say. And with that, we'll get into it. Episode uh six, I believe, with Mr. Sesh. Thanks, Sash. Take care, brother.

Speaker 2 1:36:52

Later, buddy.