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Propaganda and Protection

Christopher Season 1 Episode 7

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A masterwork in propaganda itself: the good, the bad and the ugly.

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome back to the Royal House of Goose. Today we're on with a friend of mine, Mr. Blackjack, and we'll be discussing propaganda and also probably when microeconomics is a lie. So, you know, that econ degree is kind of uh never mind, never mind. TikTok's made me bitter. Okay, so blackjack, tell us a little bit about yourself. What's your background?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So my life took some circuitous roots, right? I used to work at a think take while I was uh studying medicine in college. I I graduated from uh Wyman Priest Institute, which is a special high side school, and then uh had my epiphany that the FDA was never going to allow me to practice medicine in the way that it should be practiced. So I walked away seven years in and went into banking. At least within my own way, I can protect people from being taken advantage of by the banking system. So working on uh where you know we're talking about propaganda today, uh, you know, from my days at the think tank, you know, where I would produce propaganda, I've been working on propaganda for the better part of 32 years now. So pretty deep experience in propaganda, counterintelligence, things of that nature.

SPEAKER_00

So, how has propaganda evolved from, let's say, 30 years ago to today?

SPEAKER_01

So it's quite a bit easier to disseminate nowadays, right? Because the number of media, mediums by which you can distribute propaganda has increased drastically, right? You know, where years and years ago you just had newspapers and television, right? And if the if the Americans didn't, you know, click on your news to follow your propaganda or read your newspaper, then you were lost, right? But now you can capture it everywhere, you can capture it on social media. Not anybody listens to the radio anymore, but you can do it through a Hollywood distribution of movies, you could do that prior. But with the number of new mediums that have been created within the last 30 years, it's significantly easier to disseminate propaganda now than previous.

SPEAKER_00

You think it'll have I I gotta I gotta be honest here, because as you know, I got video games and books are my main go-to's to get away from it all. I'm waiting past the 10th year for Patrick Ruffloss. Second podcast I'm mentioning, by the way. Patrick, if you're watching this, release the doors a fucking stone. And of course, you know, Vail Guard, if you're a Dragon Age guy, waited 10 years for it, and then it was just full political propaganda, sludge shit everywhere, messaging. It was so overt, it was almost noxious. So you think it's dangerous to have this level of propaganda exposure and even non-political things? Oh, most decidedly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the the human psyche doesn't want to wake up to the fact that it's been propagandized the entire life and it will fight vehemently to stay propagandized, right? But uh, you know, there there's some there's some deprogramming tactics that you could do if you have a loved one or a family member that that you want to deprogram because propaganda is sideless, right? There's no there's no right left in propaganda, it's either you're propagandized or or you see through that, right? And there's common depro programming tactics that you can do. So yeah, it's it's it's it's pretty, it sure is pretty dangerous right now, you know, because the whole point of propaganda is to get people into individual camps so that they can be controlled, right? And those those camps can be somewhat dangerous right now, can't they?

SPEAKER_00

Most assuredly. So, what are some of these uh deprogramming tactics that that the average people could learn to use and adapt and you know sniff out the bullshit?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, it's well, sniffing out the bullshit is different than deprogramming. So we would either need to talk about how the programming works or how to deprogram. Which way would you like to go? Oh, hell, let's do both as you'd like. Okay, so uh, you know, a key part of of writing a good propaganda piece is first and foremost, emotional manipulation. Okay. So you can't have a neutral story in in the world of propaganda. You can't tell both sides of one equation, right? You either have to target it to, if we're talking about a political spectrum, you have to target it to either make the left angry or the right angry, right? So if you read a headline and it in fact invokes emotion in you, then you need to be really careful about what you're consuming, right? Because news is supposed to be neutral. So if it's not neutral and the headline is written to get you to feel one way or the other, then you probably shouldn't even consume that media, right? So emotional manipulation, you have uh rhetorical techniques, right? Common tactics include like name-calling, you know, using derogatory labels. Uh, you've got glittering general generalities, right, which is usually vague virtue words like democracy or natural. You've got bandwagoning, right? Which is super common in writing up pieces of propaganda, which is appealing to social pressures. And then you've got you know, plain folks is like the last piece of creating propaganda, right? So I'm I'm gonna write a I'm gonna write a piece of propaganda so that I just like you, right? That's plain, that's called plain folking in the propaganda game. You know, you've got source and intent, right? There is another huge piece of propaganda, right? If you if you're reading uh say a news article and the news article doesn't link you to the source document that the article is talking about, it is propaganda 100 times out of 100, right? So if an article's talking about a court case and there's no hyperlink within that internet article to link you back to the court case itself, then you're pretty much guaranteed that that is a propaganda piece and you should not consume it. So it's called obfuscation of source. So you don't provide the source, you just provide how I want you to feel about the source. So there are some pieces within the propaganda game, how it's produced, how I used to produce it, I no longer do, but those are all the things to really think about when you're consuming different medium.

SPEAKER_00

Good to know. So, how would you go about deprogramming, let's say, someone who's been born into the digital age, their whole life they've had some type of technological pressure or propaganda in their face.

SPEAKER_01

So now that I've taught you how propaganda works, right? Deprogramming that propaganda, and I've just scratched the surface on on how we program you. Now I say we because I, you know, was in the community, I'm no longer in the community anymore. This is not, I'm not propagandizing uh, I'm pulling the curtain back from the scene, right? So if somebody says, I read this article and it said this, say, great, I would like to read what they're talking about. So will you click on the link within the article to the court case that it's talking about and send it to me, right? So that and this takes a lot of time, right? If you want to deprogram your loved ones. Well, there was no link for the source. Well, why, why, why, why would they do that? Did they not want you to see it? You know, how do I get that actual court case? Or how do I get that government document that that it's talking about? Are you telling me they didn't provide that document or that piece of video unredacted so that you can't see it for yourself? Right? And then you're just gonna start planting seeds, and they're called they're called deprogramming seeds, right? So that as people consume media, they start to reverse their course and go, wait a minute, you're talking about this. Why didn't you give it to me? Right, so that I can read it for myself. So deprogramming takes a long time, it's all about planting seeds. You can't just go, wake up, you're being propagandized, because the human psyche can't absorb that information, right? Because when you've done emotional interference, it's hard-coded that piece of data into the brain. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00

Right, especially with repetition. So basically, the same type of vagueness that you would use to allow their mind to create the monsters, you would use to give them a ladder out of it.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and and you know, sloganing is a really big piece of propaganda, right? So if I'm writing a propaganda piece, then I want to create a slogan within the distribution of that, and then I want to repeat that slogan, right? So that as they end what I'm propagandizing them with, then that s repeatable slogan is gonna be in their brain, right? Yeah, it's branding. It's branding, it's branding, right? And and like, you know, even television commercials that are not nefarious are are branding. It's still propaganda, right? You that's the importance of creating a slogan is to get that slogan hard-coded into that brain so that the next time that brain makes a decision, it makes a decision in your favor.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right. Not on like an attic you're trying to get unhooked where you force them to have that, you know, split second or two seconds of clarity to actually look at themselves and see if they want to continue and give them that up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, undeniably. Great point, really great point. So, you know, I I think I'll cut some content on deprogramming because there's a lot of deprogramming techniques that you can do, but deprogramming for, you know, keep keep in mind how long have the American people been programmed for? Right? When was the Telegraph Act? Well, 1905. You you gotta figure like media-based programming really started, like the big inflection point of where we lost the media was 1987, right? That was the big inflection point of where we lost the media because uh under Reagan at the time, the fairness doctrine, yeah. Yep, the FCC commissioner got rid of the fairness doctrine, which said that you have to tell 50% of each side of a story, right? So that was a big inflection point, and then that FCC commissioner then became a Washington lobbyist and then passed the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which allowed the six mega corporations to four, right? So now the media that you're consuming is controlled by essentially six people, right? Yeah, and that and that's why the news in Nebraska is the same as the news in California, maybe with a little different slant, is the same as the news in Oregon, as in Maine, because it's an agreement of what you're allowed to see and not see.

SPEAKER_00

Right. It's it's omission and co-mission. And it's it's good that people are finally starting to wake up to things like the Trilateral, the CFR, Bildeberg, you know, the Crawford Institute, all these organizations that operate not just nationally but transnationally with a vested interest for their own bottom line.

SPEAKER_01

Undeniably. Yeah, lump the university system into there as well. A lot of people are starting to figure out that uh, you know, the people that are creating the propaganda long took over the university system.

SPEAKER_00

You know what? What the hell? Let's let's rip off the band-aid. You want to go into peer review and why it's bullshit? Yeah, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01

Let's do it. Let's do it. You know, go at actually, you were you I will tell you this as a former propagandist, peer reviewed is is a is propaganda in and of itself, right? Propaganda in and of itself. But why don't you tackle peer review? Because I've done most of the talking and this is your podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, no, I just like to bring in subject matter experts and let them do their thing. We're more oriented towards uh education tips and tricks here from the the people who because you know, on on an average day, you're gonna naturally do things that you've taught yourself to do that someone out of the field will have no idea about to the point where you stop thinking about it, you know, like like someone who works in safety will know the hazard diamond every time they look at it, it'll pop up in front of their face, right? Like you and me, we we hear a word like affordability, we think Toyota Thon and throw it out the window, right? Yes. But peer review is is nasty. What was that thing that what was it like seven years ago? The couple professors at the universities that got together, made up an entire bullshit story on biology, put the peer review stamp on by themselves, let it loose, and then every university picked it up, and then they came out like a year later, like, yeah, no, we just bullshit all of you. This is a fucking lie.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we made it up. So, you know, when I was it when I was young, okay, when I was young, peer reviewed used to have to be repeatable, right? So, what the peer review process was, let's say you're doing a scientific experiment where you're where you're testing uh, let's say cancer research, okay, and you say I introduced this drug into this bacterium medium in the petri dish, and here was my methodology, and here was the response, right? Well, years ago, peer review used to be three different scientists that did the exact same experiment and then released their results, right? So that you could compare four different results and then if they if they made near the same results as the first scientist, then it was considered peer reviewed. Okay. Then, you know, with the bastardization of the university system, peer reviewed was changed. And uh and now it's just something that you can purchase, it's not repeatable science. So when we were going through COVID, I was trying to make peer reviewing great again, right? There, I just propagandized you a little bit, right? I just sloganized peer review. Um so you know, people would say trust the science, and I would say and I would always counter with, don't you mean test the science, right? You're never supposed to stop testing science, right?

SPEAKER_00

It's supposed to be a scientific method, is that you don't know when you're trying to understand the laws that you can adapt them and evolve and learn how to get flight when it's impossible 10 years later, and that's the majesty of it. How can you tell me that the universe is infinite and then that anything's impossible because this rule that some arbitrary asshole made up is the be all end all of the it's crazy to me. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I bet you a lot of Americans still believe that the actual science within scientific peer review is being tested when it when in fact it's not.

SPEAKER_00

Right? It's it's the groundwriters too. I mean, you remember the tobacco studies before they became big and popular, they tested on rats, and the tobacco companies told everyone, you know, it's it's good for you with cigarettes, and we tested on rats and this and that, and they but and the scientists knew that brat that rats breed through their nose more than their mouth. Yes, so it was not a fair comparison to the impact it had on lungs. Little tiny niche shit like that is how we end up with bastardized science and then a peer review system that reinforces it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, undeniably, undeniably, and you know, the entire system. How are we allowed to talk freely on this application?

SPEAKER_00

100% fuck TikTok.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, okay, very good. Yeah, you never know what you can and can't say anymore, but I mean, the system itself, like uh, you know, because you'd you'd brought it brought it up, science, right? Like the FDA might be the most criminally corrupt organization on earth. And still a lot of the American people think that they're honorable and trying to do the right thing when there's a huge crossover between the FDA and the pharmaceutical industries, right? It's not independent whatsoever. And whenever something loses independence, then it's it's uh it's subject to propaganda, one, and it can be controlled by those who derive profit, right? So, but the Americans are slowly waking up to the fact that the institutions that were supposed to protect them are not, in fact, protecting them.

SPEAKER_00

Well, this is why I wrote, you know, the book that I did that codex, and it's funny because I can see which you know peer-reviewed and published papers it's in. I get a ding, right, every time someone references it. And it's been used in papers that have directly opposing views, and that's exactly what I wanted because at least people are knowing where to go to form their own opinions and cross-reference and develop lateral thinking. You don't see a lot of that these days, you know.

SPEAKER_01

As I said before we started hitting the recording button, I have a lot of hope. I do, because people are starting to cross-reference, they are starting to check. You know, Codex Politico is very important because it gives the people the resources in order to cross-reference and check data. And when when you check data, a good percentage of it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever. You know, I did a I did a uh a wonderful example. If we can have a little departure just for a minute, if you'll indulge me. So I was on TikTok, and uh somebody had said, Hey, what do you think, Blackjack, about this article by Axios that said that this data center was stealing water in Georgia? Right now, this was live and in real time on TikTok, and it was beautiful how it all worked out. I said, you know, I can't discuss it right now because I haven't fact-checked the article yet, right? So why would I discuss it? But I'll tell you this, and I turned around my camera and I said, let me show you how I'm gonna fact-check the mainstream media, because I can tell that this article was written in order to uh in order to make me hate data centers, right? That's so that's propaganda. So I went down to the body of the article, I said, okay, it says here that it's Fayette County, Georgia. So I'm gonna go and I'm gonna message the head of Fayette County Water and see if this story's fake or real. And I showed how I went to, I said, you know, every government person has an email me link, right? I said, so let me send her an email. And then whenever I hear from the person there, we we can discuss it. And uh and the other person agreed. I'm like, hey, I don't know how long we're gonna have to table it. It might be forever. I might not ever get the information, right? And we were getting ready to switch to another topic, and I got an email from the the head of water at Fayette County, Georgia. I said, Hey, I already got a response because it was an automated response because they've been had so many queries. I said, So let me just read it in real time. And I read the response from the Fayette County, Georgia Water Commissioner, and it debunked every piece of that AC Axios article, like in great detail. And I said, there, now we can discuss it. And you know, the comments were like, whoa, wow, holy crap! Like, like that's the that's the level by which I check media before I'll talk about it and consume it. Is if they say something happened in the area, then I either reach out to somebody I know in the area and trust, or I reach out to the local expert in that area and I just shoot him a quick email. Hey, and I and I just it was this fast. I said, here's a link to the Axios article. Would you mind commenting on it? And so it turned out that the entire story was fake, but I kind of already knew it was fake because the headline elicited an emotion. And if a headline elicits an emotion, then you uh 99 times out of a hundred, the text of that piece of medium is going to be propaganda.

SPEAKER_00

So be careful, be careful of what you consume. It's like polls and politics. I mean, we spent a whole semester. Semester and poly sci learning how to bastardize a poll, right? You've seen me go into these lives and I say, like, put your hand up, you know, if you'd vote yay, if if we took away all the guns in the world, right, in a room full of two-way people, but if you don't do it, the world will end. All these two-way people would raise their hand and say, Well, you know, we don't want the world to end. And I would say, Well, there you go, there's your poll. All the two-way people said they're willing to get rid of their guns in order to protect the world. Technically, it's true, but it's a dick move.

SPEAKER_01

Undeniably. And you know, that a lot of how propaganda works is to be put into a no-choice scenario. I have no choice but to do something, right? That's another common tactic in the propaganda game is you're giving the person that's consuming it no choice.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's it's usually either fear or desire, I find with most people, especially if you find something that agrees with you that makes you really heady toss that bitch immediately because it's doing the same thing in reverse every every time. And I have these arguments on on our broken clock app where we're both slowly going crazy, I'm sure. Right. Yeah, totally. And yeah, things like data centers, things like foreign countries with people who can't point to them on a fucking map, which is why I do these little litmus tests where you know I point to Turkmenistan and say, should we keep bombing this country? Because fucking right. But if someone brings up a legitimate, educated grievance, I'll back them and I'll ask for more and I'll look into it myself, come back and and host a 30-minute live with a proper conversation, bring in some experts, specialists, do the thing. But if it's just back and forth dumb drivel, I just I just honestly lob grenades at both camps at that point because it's not like propaganda is inherently bad either, right? Because you you think of some of the positive things it has. You and I, one thing we have in common is we look from the top-down approach, right? Yeah, pitting factions against each other that most people have never heard of, or you know, triggering that propaganda. Like I openly tell people, right? I'm gonna convince all of you to read four pages of the Constitution. Now I spent three years nicely asking people beautiful flowers, explaining this is article one, this is in it. Three years, maybe 200 people read it. Spent the last eight months on TikTok telling people, you're a bad American and a stupid cunt that doesn't even know their own rights. What's the Ninth Amendment? Oh, I don't know. Yeah, you're stupid. Drop. They come back the next day. Guess what, motherfucker? I read the whole Constitution. This is the Ninth Amendment. Congratulations, now you know your rights, and we're over 3,000 in eight months. Like you can really utilize that for motivation, but it all comes down to the intent. And my thing is, I'll never, you know, deceive someone about what I'm doing. I will tell them to their face what I'm doing. Um, I go both ways. I go both ways, right?

SPEAKER_01

You know, to keep my skills sharp about once a month, I will go into a left and right debate live, right? Just, you know, because if if you don't use the skills, you lose them, right? So I'll pop into a left and and right debate, and then I will very carefully weave a conversation in order to get both the left and the right to hate me personally, and then I'll weave the conversation back to an issue and watch the left and right agree. Right? Because I gave them a different common enemy than one another. And about once a month, I'll go in and just absolutely melt everybody's brain quietly. I never tell anybody what I'm doing, right? I'm just keeping my skills sharp and I will get them both sides to hate me, and then I'll weave a conversation to get them to agree, and then I'll leave the room, right?

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, pretty much I usually uh tailor the the sneakier side of things towards mostly people who I know are doing it to others for personal gain, right? Like it says, you remember we did that whole live on the legality of deportation catapults just for shits and giggles. We got the lawyers in there, we figured out what would make it, and I just I can't help myself. You want you want to tell them why the Canadians have been in a panic, and then I'll tell them why I called myself Goose.

SPEAKER_01

Well, so the Canadian liberals are some of the worst people on earth, they they really are, and they viciously they viciously attack people on TikTok. So Goose and I were in a room and we had a bunch of mouthy Canadians, so we decided to flip it into what's called an ethos class. Okay, so if you know an ethos is creating environment an entire environment, right? And then uh and then it basically came like a propaganda class where I created CIA documents about a US military incursion into Canada. We included battle maps where where there were the weak points, and now keep in mind the Canadian liberals are so angry and full of hate that we're creating the ethos in front of them, and yet, and we're even openly saying, I'm gonna teach you guys how to create propaganda, and then we've got the Canadians that are so mentally unfit, we will defeat you. Now, it was shocking to me while we were in the middle of the class creating the ethos of the fake government documents, the fake battle. Actually, they weren't fake battle plants.

SPEAKER_00

Years and years ago, the US did look to invade Canada, so we used real maps, which is how you dodge the whole uh you know, false representation with the government thing. You have to make the seal either slightly off or reference real documents.

SPEAKER_01

Bingo, bingo. So we did some of that, and we created an entire ethos where it looked like the the Trump administration was planning an armed invasion of Canada. Now, creating the ethos is great, but you have to know how to deploy the ethos. And so it the dark net is not for everybody, it's not for everything. You really have to know what you're doing, it's a very dangerous place. But if you know what you're doing and you know what the whistleblower rooms are on the dark web, that's where a lot of media go in order to grab stories. So when you deploy the story of a US armed invasion of Canada and you make it look like a real ethos where different intelligence are planning with one another, the armed invasion, you can then implant it on the dark web where whistleblowers go, and the entire country picks it up. And you know, based on polling, now 67% of Canadians believe that the US is going to militarily invade them from two guys from two guys on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00

In all fairness, Blackjack, they did trade a circus for a carnage. It's not like the BBC and the state-owned enterprises of Europe aren't doing the same thing. Like, look at the people who came to America for the sporting events and all this shit, right? Oh my god, this is beautiful. Because they thought we were on fire, they thought it was literally 1940s Germany. That's how badly they were fucked by their own media, right?

SPEAKER_01

Right? And that's been uh it's been joyous to watch all of those European people, you know, because if we're gonna win this thing, which I believe we will, I'm an internal optimist, then we've got to wake the whole planet up. And the Europeans were waking up in droves going, oh my god, America's like the greatest place ever. We see why you guys love it, but our media had us thinking you're all a bunch of hateful ogres and Nazis. It's it's it's fun to watch that evolution, and uh and uh if you ever want to not be propagandized, go talk to your neighbor, like talk to them, right? Your neighbor's not a bad person, man, for the most part, right? So that's been a huge trend that I've been enjoying watching. Matter of fact, to put myself in a good mood, Goose, I've been watching European videos every morning before I go to work because it's just like the the people are waking up. The people are waking up that the media is uh extremely corrupt, extremely corrupt.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sure I'm sure you remember that week or two weeks, whatever it was, it was a fortnight or so when America couldn't get access to TikTok. Yes, yeah, the Canadians started running their mouths on us pretty badly. So I changed my name to Melting Goose for a couple months, and I hopped into all these Canadian labs, all these independent, you know, super cocky Canadians, and I beat them over the head with treaties in force, trade agreements, abuses of our water supply, our land, everything, every objective signed by their government, signed by our government investigations, like legitimate shit, right? Not the crap that we, you know, fuck with like the actual binding documents, right? And that's why they travel in groups now. You'll see one Canadian come up, start complaining. Then there's a hundred of them because I spent months systemically melting the goose. I I could not stand the uppity bullshit from our neighbor to the north.

SPEAKER_01

It's much appreciated, believe it or not. It's much appreciated because I love this country, and you know, uh a lot of Canadians want to shit on this country, and it's not okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then they, you know, they go home like the Europeans do, and God forbid you fired a gun at a range and said you had a good time. Congrats, you're getting arrested when you get back because you put that dumb shit on social media. Right? We've never been the West. Like we we America was founded to not be part of the West. So it's weird that we're constantly getting labeled with the atrocities like Belgium. The minute you remember that about a year ago, the minister of Belgium came out in front of a Hague and accused us of colonialism.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

While France has the most active colonies in the world and the longest border today, like y'all gotta be fucking shitting me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, there's a great piece of propaganda. The Americans believe that the European Union are their allies.

SPEAKER_00

Can't tell me about it. I mean wants to talk about the fact that it was founded off a Nazi, you know, war plan, but Walter Funk has entered the building.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yeah, you know, you look at modern day conflicts, and I'll I'll ask people, like, you know, US Iran conflict, right? And I'll and people will be like, There, we should not have we should not be doing this. And I'll say, Hey, what do you think about the Bank of Turkey laundering all of the IRGC money? Do you think that was wise for a NATO neighbor to do that? And they'll be like, What are you talking about? I'm like, Well, they were prosecuted for that activity in the US Supreme Court. Why don't you know that? Why isn't your media telling you that? And then, hey, what do you think about the European the European Union avoiding their own sanctions because they were shipping Iranian oil out over to the Shangdong tea teapot refineries, mixing in over with Russian oil and then buying cheaper oil than us, avoiding their own sanctions? Do you think that's a good ally? So, like that I don't even know how to beat that. That's one of the best propaganda pieces in the world that the European Union are our allies.

SPEAKER_00

It's not even their own ally. I mean, it's been ingrained for 86 years, a whole generation, to the point where people believe now that you know us cutting subsidies to Yugoslavia, which hasn't existed what, millions of dollars a year for what, 30 years now? Yugoslavia? Yeah, 32, I think, right? Yeah, 30, 32 years. They think that us cutting off that subsidy is the same thing as abusing an ally. Now, that's the greatest piece of propaganda of all is the idea that an ally is anything other than saying good doggy until you find a rock. Like real politics is real, kids. Globalism is a lie.

SPEAKER_01

I was hoping that more Americans would wake up when our NATO partners refused us access to our own bases, that they're a competitor and not an ally. I mean, it's really, in my humble opinion, only gone one way. We've shown up to defend them. You know, a lot of the European Union will say, Well, we showed up on 9-11. I'm like, you showed up with logistics support for the number one logistics in the world in the United States military. They're number one on logistics that's far. So you provided some logistics support. I guess the only one that actually sent real soldiers was Great Britain, and I think that's just because they had to. But uh it is interesting to see NATO evolving. It is so, but the American people have a long, long way to go because they still think the European Union are our allies. Hell, you know, in uh in Iraq, you know, we we knew that there weren't, in fact, weapons of mass destruction because we're the ones that gave the chemical precursors to make chemical weapons to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, so we knew exactly what they had. But what Americans don't know is under the UN Food for Oil program, the European Union backdoored us and talked Iraq into trading oil in the euro and not the dollar. But that's I don't know. The American people still have a really long way to go, but I'm still full of hope, goose.

SPEAKER_00

How about you? Do you still have hope? I refer to Washington's exit speech a lot because he covered this. He covered how to break parties and stop them. He covered how to pid the interests of greedy rivals against each other for the good of the people. So I I defer to that a lot, and it's kind of why I look towards the top. You know, I can give the people every every connection, every bit of advice I can. That's a one of the main reasons I'm doing this podcast and everything I can, but I uh they they want to fight because they don't under I mean take Trump, right? Perfect example. I'm not saying the man's not divisive, but he's no more so than anyone else. And when they say he's not presidential, I point them to the last 182 fucking years, right? But uh I I think what happened with him is that most Americans are happy to live in their nice little bubble where it was three branches and it was schoolhouse rock. And now whether they love him or hate him, they've started digging into it and realizing just how fucked the system's been this whole time. Democrat, Republican, Sideways, Digital Piracy Party, doesn't fucking matter which one. We've got the SES, we've got the Federalists. There's just so much going on that when they see a map of how the actual government is laid out, right? All these third-party institutions like the EBRD we were talking about, they just go, Well, what the fuck? And they don't want to look at it anymore because no one wants to deal with the fact that they've been lied to when they feel powerless.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean? Well, and and I think that has a lot to do with TDS. I I do, right? Is people are very, very, very angry when when you point out constantly that they're propagandized, and the human psyche will fight against that because nobody wants to believe that they form their worldviews on lies and manipulation, right? So I think when you look at the whole TDS phenomenon, I think there's a large component onto that, is they really want to believe that the media tells the truth, they really want to believe that the FDA makes the best decisions for the health of America and not the profit of the pharmaceutical companies. They want to believe that the government is benevolent, and maybe there is some faction of the government that is benevolent. Unfortunately, malevolent people are within the government and they've been abusing the tax money, and that's why we're 38 trillion in debt.

SPEAKER_00

One of many reasons you ignore the currency swap with you know Europe for 9 trillion that was never accounted for, then never paid back. But you know, it's it's we've talked about ways to fix this. You know, I'm good to liquidate and arbitrage the euro with a parallel system at this point, but you know, I do want to pick winners if we ever go that route. But uh remember when we made that TDS test that went both ways, whether you were devoted or deranged, just unrationally thinking.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that was a great exercise, wasn't it? It was, it was. It got you to understand if you're too full of hate or too devotional, right? And that's the best way to deprogram somebody is to make sure that you direct them in a way that gets them back to away from emotion and to facts.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we also made it look like a legitimate psychological evaluation because no one wants to consider the fact that modern psychology is built off of the man who shoved cocaine up his ass every day and wanted to fuck his mother. But yeah, no, we digress.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, there is that. And you know, when when you read the when you read the you know, communist manifesto that was read from the naked communist into Congress, one of the big things that is huge with the communists is we have to take over the psychiatric profession, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's one of the things that drives me absolutely fucking bonkers is you know, people will use communism on the left and the right either as this ideal thing, or I'm a big fan of Machiavelli's anticyclotic theory, right? The government shift. I mean, that's another perfect example of it, too, just really quickly. Because, you know, in public schools, if you hear Machiavelli, you think the prince, right? The prince was written as satire at the behest of Catherine de' Medici to fuck over the Pope so the Orsenes could take power, but people don't know that. You go to a private school and they're taught to read his treaties on government, his assessment of Aristotle and Plato, and and you know, democracy is a failed republic versus democracy as a form of the people. And he writes these incredible works no one's ever fucking heard of. And it makes me tremendously I'm I'm sorry, I'm pivoting a bit. Where was I before I lost track there?

SPEAKER_01

We were talking about propaganda and the psychiatric profession.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's it's always just wild to me the way that people will, you know, jump to this, especially if someone puts, you know, their social not a communism, that was it. I I apologize. No, because people, if you look at the nuance, right? China is today using the same Kangous communist tactics that overthrew Serchi and rewrote their history. Russia is using the more Marxist tactics at an institutional level. So even if they disappeared tomorrow, it's still going to be a lasting blight. And then you've got at the end of the day, like what happened in Iran in after the party in 71, thanks, France, in in 79, where it all turns into French utopian in the end, anyway. Where it's oh, nope, they have more Kellumbe have more, and it has to end with a military dictator that takes over and says, no, you guys are done. It's just a lot of people say you can lead a horse to water, and I tried that. But if I've got to get from point A to point B, and my horse won't drink water, I'm putting the horse down so it doesn't starve, selling the horse meat, getting a new mule, and getting to point B. That's that's become my philosophy. Where do you stand on all that?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I don't uh I don't find it as effective, honestly. And and and I would encourage you to find more patience. I know, I know, I get it, Goose. Everybody should already know this, but they don't. Right? And it takes all of us to form a better society. And like it or not, Goose, you're a leader. But you need to get the to get the leadership principle of patience and stop skipping to the end, because you and I have been at the end for a very, very long time. You gotta imagine at some point we were at the beginning. And if we want them to get to the same end in order to root out corruption, theft, trafficking, all of the bad and evil shit in society, then you have to find patience and start with them at the beginning.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it depends on the method, right? Because if you're an elected official, your job is to the people and to helping the people if you do it properly or mitigating damage. If you're appointed, which is more along the lines that I do, you play with the people at the top to ensure that they can't do enough damage down below. So I've always been more of a behind the curtain kind of guy. Publicly, I'll give people resources, I'll make them think critically or or introduce them to media literacy. But if like to take, take, for example, the people who look at Trump's tweets and go, well, this is fucking crazy, right? They don't look at the cabinet briefs, they don't look at the reports, and I beg them for months. If you're in agriculture, why are you not subscribed to the USDA? No, it's not going to give you everything, but when we're referencing you know legal documents, you go to congress.gov, you go to SCOTUS, you you go to the the cabinet. That's how policy works. You have to find it from the horse's mouth, and then you can form your own opinion. And I can't get them to do it for their own well-being. I can't get them to do it. I've just become very, very tired, Blackjack.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I understand that, but you gotta keep in mind where we were and where we are now, right? You know, where we were in 2019 was maybe 800,000 people, had a really good Idea what was going on. Now we're at 20 or 30 million. Now, here's the problem: when first people first wake up to the corruption, the propaganda, and everything, they don't have the resources to help the next human being. And those of us that have been awake to the propaganda game for a long time need to help the newly awakened with some resources. Hey, you're trying to give people information with a fire hose, and the human psyche can't do that. You've got to drop hints and leave it and walk away from it. You can't wake somebody up with a fire hose, otherwise, they wake up really fucking angry.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just antiquarian in the relic. We I gather knowledge from every direction and I throw it at the people who need it. Because if it's knowledge that's relevant, I'll learn a new lateral application like the XM Bank compared to what you know the EBRD is doing, right? You can watch those in tandem. It's a whole new worldview. If it's irrelevant, like how to clean a rain gutter, and I run into someone who, you know, has a failing gutter, now I have knowledge they can, I can offload it where it does good. That's that's the way I look at it. Is it less for the the virtue and the because I believe in forced altruism is the obscene and senseless suicide of slaves, right? I will help someone dig their car out of the snow. I'm a true New Yorker, but I'm gonna call them a dumb cunt while I do it. But the car will be out of the snow. Whereas, you know, California thoughts in prayer that we hope you get better, you're staying in that ditch forever. Yeah, yeah, that does test your patience. It certainly does test your patience. I'm learning recently, and it I always knew, but it was never to this degree that your average non-traumatized American that hasn't had to, you know, fight tooth and nail at some point in their life. And it's not a bad thing if you're it's a good thing if you're not, right? But you're also kind of a little blind in the world because the amount of people I'm learning who don't understand subtext, who think that corporate jargon is real, who think that when someone says bless your heart, it you can't teach them that in a way that's healthy. It's almost best to let them just live in peace. And I think not everyone needs to be involved in politics, but you should at least read four pages, know your rights, and then fuck off and be at peace. To force everyone into very complicated issues like geopolitics has resulted to nothing but flooding the entire field with sludge and crap. You have to find the people with the calling, the gift, or the the genuine interest, and ensure that the rest of them are able to fend for themselves, but not necessarily feel compelled to put their two cents in at the last minute and and destroy an operation. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

I do, I do, but it also takes a village, my friend. We need we need more bodies, so we have to find patience and get people going in the right direction.

SPEAKER_00

Well, there's a reason the shaman in the village lives in a hut all the way off on the fuck all side hanging with the animals. You can come into his hut and he'll heal your ass, but then you can get the fuck out because he's going back to the animals, so he doesn't go crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you have to develop your approach, my friend. I have mine. I don't know which is better.

SPEAKER_00

Yet somehow, you know, we're both members of the WEF now. So thank you for that. But also, I'm not sure I'm happy about that. I used to just be Times Men of the Year 2006, and and now I'm I'm part of one of the most evil corporations in the world.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I left out that background. I left out that background. So after I left Mes and I founded a bank. And when I was the CEO of a bank, I became a member of the World Economic Forum. I sold the bank, become a little league coach, and more time in my life, but I never let go of my WEF membership because I realized how incredibly evil they were, and I wanted to keep an eye on them. And then I wanted a hand grenade in the room, so I uh invited Mr. Goose here. So and sponsored him into the World Economic Forum because their tiles are of what they plan to do in the future are quite enlightening, aren't they?

SPEAKER_00

Oh my, it's fucking awful. Yeah, and it's weird too, because with your level of access, you actually see the real conversations, not just the crap that they're it's like the Department of Energy, right? You subscribe to it, it's oh, we invested in this thing. This is the director of diversity. But if you have an in with it, it's this is the new research and development for the military. And it's like, what the fuck? That's real.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, uh, I thought it was important to let you see behind the cameras, right? Yeah. And that's not that's not even all that you know, World Economic Forum is just one piece, right? Oh, yeah. I'm still on the FDA Council for Health, so I can keep an eye on those crazy bastards, right? I still sit on a bunch of councils just so I can keep an eye on these profit lunatics, is what I call them. Profit lunatics, you know, where uh when when you substitute higher power, well, I mean, that was that was evidenced in the last uh, you know, Tulsi Gabber drop, right? Now it's all above contestation and you can read it for yourself. And I'm glad that that's all out. I mean, anybody who had half a brain that listened, listen, here is a really, really important thing to understand about information dissemination. And I'm I don't know that I've delineated this yet, okay. But if somebody has everything to lose by giving you the data that they're giving, it is automatically more trustworthy than from other sources. So if a whistleblower comes out and says, I escaped China, I worked in the lab, it had genetic markers that showed that it was COVID-19, that woman gave up her life. She gave now this was uh this was a Chinese researcher that said it very early on in COVID, right? Very early on in the American media. She lost her job, she lost her country, she lost her family in order to give me the information, right? And because of that, I immediately knew at the beginning of COVID that it in fact came from a lab. Because she lost everything to give me that information. If somebody has nothing to lose by giving you the information, you should be much more guarded about the information that you're giving, they're giving you. So whistleblower testimony is some of the most important testimony because those people have given up things in order to tell you the truth. You should listen more carefully.

SPEAKER_00

That's the other thing I've found with this, too. There's an old expression that uh to see what is not yet there first, you must see what is, right? And and in all my digging and you know, pushing of the classified barrier with my buddies until they tell me to fuck off, right? You get good at it after time. It's like finding a bird in the night sky by the stars that blots out. You got the shape of it, right?

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Was to question shit that I thought I already knew. I mean, we got into this fun exercise of, you know, what if we made Liechtenstein a territory and we're sitting here joking about it? Now I've got a book on the U.S. Organic Acts for Territories because I started asking myself, wait, how do we administer our territories? Because I never thought to question that. And now I know what the Department of the Interior actually is and what happened on Navassa, and I'm just sitting here like, oh shit, Puerto Ricans are not legally people. It's just it's it's crazy the crap you'll find out if you just ask questions about the things you think you know. It is absolutely astounding.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you ask the American people, you know, what it what does the Department of Energy do? They have no idea. What does the Department of Interior do? They have no idea, right? You know, and and it and it I I wonder, I wonder when I'm telling people the truth, how that truth is being received. Like the Department of Energy is the largest of the intelligence apparatus in the United States.

SPEAKER_00

They don't know about the five-letter agency, she'll scare them. Stop it. Truth owes blackjack.

SPEAKER_01

That does not make the truth any less relevant, my friend. But you know, I I often wonder when I say these things in public, does that make people go look up things or do they just crawl back into their shell? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I actually figured that out not too long ago because you know, I'm into the the more mystical histories of the world because I believe in order to understand history and politics, you also have to understand like the religious apparatuses, the societies, the economies, like every direction, right? Yes, and uh it led me to talk to a lot of let's call them witchy people or or very religious people. And have you ever had someone say something to you that sounds cryptic and you're like, well, just fucking say it, and they can't make it stop sounding cryptic, and then like three weeks later, you're like, God damn it, that's what that bitch meant.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, all often.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I found has started happening with some of the stuff I'm shedding light on. You know, you you bring them to that point, and then it doesn't click. And then when it does click, they come back to you and they say, Well, why didn't you just speak plainly? And it's like, I I like you could make it monosyllabic and say, This is bad, as simply as possible, or this is good, and it doesn't click until it's time to click. And then when it does, the the jumble of whatever the hell they processed it as comes together and translates and it goes, oh shit, this is what that was. No matter how simple you make it, if they're not ready to hear it, they won't. Like you said, you've got to put the steps in for them to be able to get to that point.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I uh I matter of fact, I had one of those moments this morning. It's it's funny that you mentioned that. I uh I went to church this morning because it's Sunday and it was an outdoor deal up in a canyon. It was beautiful, right? And so the sermon itself was about the anti-Christian laws that they're currently writing in Canada, right? I don't I don't know if you know Canadians, uh Canada is writing a bunch of laws that will outlaw certain parts of Christianity.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I know about the syrup sucking moose fucking ice bats, no Mexican pricks.

SPEAKER_01

So the guy did a great job, right? You know, bringing it back to scripture and all that stuff, and but then the closing hymn was Morning is Broken by the artist Kat Stevens, that is now one of the biggest advocates for Islam. So I walked up to the dude after and I said, Hey, did it dawn on you that Morning is broken is written by Kat Stevens, who's a huge Islamist and like a big proponent of Islamic religions, but then your sermon said that you know Canada was standing against Christians and will put them in jail because if they quote some scripture that stands against Islam, and then we're singing from a dude that is a big proponent of Islam, he goes, Yeah, it messed me up. I just really like the song.

SPEAKER_00

It's a useful method, too. I mean, you think about the primordial sounds, and if you really listen to your favorite songs, regardless of the genre, could be rap, could be opera, could be classical music, as long as there's certain sounds in it. There's I've found four things that will resonate with the subconscious, and I think it's just ingrained over years of human experience, right? One is bells, specifically deep bells, like church bells, if that's somewhere in the background. The second is chanting in any capacity, even overlaying duets will stick something in the back of your head because something about that frequency is comforting. The third is drums, specifically the deep drums, right? The heavy ones that you feel in your chest. And the fourth, I don't even know what to call it. I just call it that that Arab Egyptian beat, you know, the one that kind of sounds like a serpent, like it folds in on itself that you hear in everything.

unknown

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

They all have a visceral reaction if you really, you know, isolate it in songs that focus on it, right? You listen to Mongolian throat singing properly one time, and all of a sudden you're in a sub-trance state where your mind has half shut off because it's just naturally, you know, it sounds like thunder. It was designed to mimic thunder. But these things have become so intrinsic. You see it in even Shakira's song at the the FIFA World Cup a couple years ago. That little opening with that that throat singing that kicked into it, you could see the crowd's immediate reaction. And it's almost like color theory or placement and marketing, like it's it's absolutely within the psyche. So music does have that value of raising that question later, even if you don't know where it comes from, of wait a minute, why was it the song? People will eventually get there.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, yeah, they always do. I I wished I knew more about frequencies and psyche because I'm sure there is a lot to see there, right?

SPEAKER_00

Good news for you, sir. The benefit of being a jack of all trades is I've learned shit that's none of my business. We'll talk about it whenever you want.

SPEAKER_01

I love that whole quote, and we just hit an hour. So I want to do the entire quote. Go for it. A jack of all trades is a master of none, yet oftentimes better than a master of one.

SPEAKER_00

I just dropped a whole substack on bastardized folk sayings, all of them, all the major ones. You know, Curiosity killed the cat, satisfaction brought it back, birds of a feather flock together until the cat comes. You know, until the cat it flips the whole thing upside down.

SPEAKER_01

It certainly does, right? You know, if you just hear the front half, I I'm glad that you did that. I would love to, I would love to view that.

SPEAKER_00

You know, there's plenty of them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. I will uh I love how it does flip itself upside down, right? A jack of all trades is a master of none. That literally means trust the experts, right? Then when you add in, but oftentimes better than a master of one, that means that if you're educated across multiple mediums, you can see the world through a better view. And and I wonder if I've always wondered this is it propaganda of itself in order to cut off sayings.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. I don't think it happens naturally. I mean, you you see it when it's artificially done, like blood is thicker than water was, you know, because they didn't cut off half of it, they just shortened it and clipped it from the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb, right? The the friends you make is is infinitely more valuable than just the family you're born with. But you saw that artificially constructed because now corporations are saying we're a family here, we wear many hats. No, we're not. No, that you stop paying me, I'm gone. Fuck you. Yeah, that's the universal truth about employees. If you stop paying them, they're no longer family. I mean, unless I got stuck in that company, I don't, I don't care. And you know, that's the other thing, too, is you know, we talked about the CFTC, the SEC, the regulatory blah blah blahs. But like even the people who want to do investments, I'm not in any way an investment counselor, I'm not a wealthy man, right? But if you subscribe to the cabinets, you get the indefinite six-year, 10-year contracts with companies that are on Robin Hood. So I threw five bucks at each one, and I know they're locked in for 10 years. I don't have to think about them. Same with energy, defense, war, state. But people don't care.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, the the whole secret to wealth was delineated by Einstein. The eighth wonder of the world is compound interest over time, right? That's the secret to wealth.

SPEAKER_00

You know, you know what would really blow the socks off the world? Why don't you tell them about the DTCC, what happened, and what it is now? Oh, heavens, heavens. Let me pull it up. Yeah, guys, where's your stock certificates?

SPEAKER_01

Was it a flood or a fire? Yeah, where are the stock certificates?

SPEAKER_00

What's the what's the entity? Oh, now it's you'll own nothing and be happy. The GTCC is just a name after all the documents flooded.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. So you when you used to own a stock, you used to get to hold the stock certificate. Right? And I don't what year did that change?

SPEAKER_00

Oh god. Let me let me find out when the was it a fire or a flood? It was a flood. Looks like 2012. That doesn't sound right. I thought it was before the 90s. I think it was the 80s. Yeah, yeah, because it just got re-affected by Sandy. It's been defunct for a long time now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was in the 70s when we destandardized the the international currency from the gold standard under Nix, and then they could create the depository trust company was established to centralize stock certificates, beginning the shift towards electronic record keeping. Yeah, I don't even know if these if the younger generation knows that when you bought a stock, you the individual got to hold that certificate, and that was a big part of home safes, was you know, as a place to store your stock certificates. Then they created the DTCC after they came off of the gold standard international trade, right? We came off domestically in 1933 under Franklin Delanore Roosevelt.

SPEAKER_00

Socialist.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I always wonder it. Was he a socialist, a Marxist, or a communist? I'm not sure which.

SPEAKER_00

It's the end result of the end of the day, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I guess you know, communism's never oh, communism everybody throws out the word communism, but it's never actually existed except in one isolated place in the Pyrenees Mountains, because the the communism is the absence of a nation state, right? The the ab complete absence of any form of government where the individual worker just trades labor freely. And the only time that there's ever been even any communism was there was a breakoff state in Spain by the Basque in the Pyrenees Mountains that broke off and had no government whatsoever, nor no nation state for like 103 years. Outside of that, communism's never existed because it has to have as soon as you're at borders, you're not communist anymore. You're socialist or Marxist.

SPEAKER_00

I've been thinking about this, and I do think communism works, so I'll tell you why. If you think about communism as a jump start using, you know, Machiavelli's cycle of governments or Polybis, who we took the separation of powers from, right? You have the rises and falls, the the darker versions, tyranny versus you know, autonomy, all these different variants. And you look at communism as a matrix that's designed as a reset that trips you into a dictatorship, whereas, you know, the the extreme libertarian, far-right wet dream communism would trip you straight into mercantilism, right? Because you'd end up with corporations naturally forming and taking out their competitors. I view it more as a reset than a form of government because how can it be a form of government if it doesn't believe in government? Correct. That's the fucking, you know, the the crack on joke about the whole damn thing. So I think it works for what it is. It's done an excellent job of destroying governments after where it goes. Uh it has.

SPEAKER_01

It has. So was FDR a socialist or a Marxist? What he was not was a capitalist, right?

SPEAKER_00

So that's where you and I differ, because you know, you you're Chicago school, right, Hilmar?

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, I am, Mr. Warbird. Well, you know, some of us traditionalists believe that uh mercantilism is the way to go. Modern mercantilism, you know, levying assets and trade routes and military contracts as opposed to the slavery fuckery. But like the way I see it, why not give competitive markets at home and focus in favor of those competitive markets? And who gives a fuck what they do abroad as long as they don't fuck with you know deemed allies or powers, let what happens on the high sea happens. We have the sole power to regulate it. That's one of the things I I love about your system with your business, Blackjack, is you only hire people who know the constitution, right? So if I have to have the international law debate one more fucking time. Because think about it, right? You go too far left, you want bodies like the UN to govern everyone under these equalizing laws. You go too far right into neocon territory, and now you're pro-WEF. Any corporation, no restrictions. I say don't stop Congress, don't stop the Fed governors from trading, let them trade stocks. But it has to be American-owned and based companies that are not members of these forums, and you watch how quickly they stop liquidating our assets. A million percent, a million percent.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. You uh you I will train anybody on how to become a millionaire, but you first have to give me a book report on the preacher from Jekyll Island and pass a discussion on the U.S. Constitution, then you can work for me and I'll teach you how to be rich. Tower of Basil was better. Well, hold on, hold on. Tower of Basil is better for you.

SPEAKER_00

True.

SPEAKER_01

But if you're starting with a fundamental misunderstanding of how currency and governance works, then the creature of Jekyll Island is a better place to start. Tower of Basil is advanced, right?

SPEAKER_00

Taylor, I'll meet you in the middle. Let's go. Gold a history of mankind's obsession, because that timeline includes Jekyll all the way back to the wheel system. Oh, that's a fantastic novel.

SPEAKER_01

I I just want everybody that works for me to understand that we're participating in a fake system. Right. And we have to be honorable within that fake system. Right? That's it. That's why I make them those two things. We live up to the constitution, and you have to be honorable within a fake system. You know, everybody works for the deep state. Everybody does. I'm just more honest and open about it.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Just damage mitigation, really. I mean, if you choose benign neglect or even a guiding hand, you have to, even Bill was talking about this in the legislature. You have to be open enough that the people who are corrupt and the systems that are corrupt will have you at the table, but not enough to sacrifice your values. And otherwise you won't get anything done. That's why Massey was so useless. He was just there. He never did anything. He never voted yay on some stupid thing just so he could push forward what he was fighting for. Yeah, everyone thinks that because of Trump saying he doesn't like Massey, everyone turned. I don't know about the rest of them, but for me, it was after that overreach bill. He was one of the 535. I want all of their asses out. And I love Kennedy. I do. I dream of duels coming back and him challenging everyone with a blunderbuss for the good of the country. But the reality is he's one of the 535. And even the people who voted no said nothing. And I I can't, in good conscience, say keep any of them in there.

SPEAKER_01

I don't disagree, ma'am. There's some real power in not voting for incumbents ever.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I said the new condition should be. If you're going to vote for someone number one, they damn well better know their state constitution, at least the section they intend to work with to change policy. They damn well better know the four pages of the base constitution, and I don't want them serving more than two terms. I think that's reasonable. I think it's very reasonable. Because you think about it, right? Let's say you have a corrupt communist asshole who knows the constitution, and some some poor dumb fuck that, you know, I believes in the idea of a constitution but hasn't read it and doesn't have an intention to read it, I'd vote for the communists. Because the communists' ideals are very clear because they always think they're going to come out on top. So if you meet them in a backroom and you say, hey, what's your end goal? Well, I want this for the nation, but no, no, no, really, like Bernie Sanders style, right? Play socialist, make a whole bunch of money with books and capitalism. What's your actual end goal? Well, I want to be rich. Okay. You go and you talk to their private backers, you make it so that they get a good chunk of change. And in exchange, they don't fuck with the constitution. Now you have someone in there who's manageable through the interior who understands where that limit lies, as opposed to the person who goes in and can be convinced to manipulate and abuse the constitution because they don't fucking know it. They're the ones that are going to become the pawns for the communists, whereas the communists can be bribed to fuck off. Well, that's a fair point.

SPEAKER_01

That's a fair point. It would be interesting to write a law that says uh you have to pass an exam on the constitution before you're allowed to serve.

SPEAKER_00

Twice a year. That's about to do it. And I wrote a sub stack on that too. Military, every promotion, every rank exchange, boom, fucking go go take a constitution test. You swore an oath to it, right? Same thing with the people. If you're gonna vote, we obviously can't force them to read it, but put a constitution test in schools at least once a year for 12 years and watch. Because half these campaign promises the people fight to the death over, they'd look at each other and go, Well, that's not physically possible. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and I love it when you know you have a politician promising something that's unconstitutional. I'm just I'm gonna get this done. I'm like, no, you're not. You're you're running, you're running for the federal government that's done at the state level. So I already I automatically know one, you have no idea what you're doing, and two, you're a liar.

SPEAKER_00

Well, think about how dangerous it is, too. I mean, take COVID, right? We had the guard in the streets. Let's say people don't know the third amendment, and there's a there's a proposal raised at the state level to amend the constitution to allow troops to to just walk through your house for safety and you use that propaganda, it's for safety, it's for your own good. How many people are gonna vote in favor of that motion? And by the time SCODA strikes it down, it's been a year under occupation. It's critical.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, it's it's I wonder if it'll get any bet well. I I mean, if you get rid of the federal board of education, education was still always done at the state level. Bring back honorable state representatives to make the constitution valid again. All right.

SPEAKER_00

So I got one more question for you, Blackjack. But before we do, is there anything you want to advertise your your your TikTok point or any goods, merchandise, companies, anything? Nope. I sell nothing.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I I I don't I don't sell anything, I'm not here to promote anything, and I never happen. Top three books to recommend Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin. Must read. I'm not gonna throw the tower of basil on.

SPEAKER_00

Already covered as a genocide.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Rules for Radicals by Saul Iwinsky. It's a good one. Super important to know what the adversary is doing. And if you if you want a deeper understanding of modern day scumfuckery, COVID 19, the Great Reset by Klaus Schwab.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god, fucking Schwab was a nightmare. Absolute nightmare. People are worried about teal, but you talk about Schwab, you talk about the released plans, and they still call it conspiracy out of their own mouths. Like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_01

The dude wrote a book, and everybody still thinks we're conspiracy theorists.

SPEAKER_00

I know it's like 2030, like it's on the site with signatures on it. Like, the fuck.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. All right, so listen. This whole series, I did this whole series for my office that was called Because the Bad Guys Told Me So. Right. It woke up my office pretty quickly. Do you have anything to promote, Mr. Goose?

SPEAKER_00

Nah, it's a standard stuff. I'll do it in the intro. You know, the the book, the substack, the merchandise, which is uniquely brain vomity with nothing. Standard stuff. So my last question to you, Mr. Blackjack, because I I found that unfortunately the people who are most insufferable in economics on TikTok are the ones who are degreed in it. Shall we go into why all the major microeconomic indicators are a damn dirty fucking lie?

SPEAKER_01

You know, let's give how about this? When I'm training people at my office. Now I run a mortgage company, I train loan officers, I train loan processors, right? And they want to look at macro a microeconomic indicators. I always tell them this exact quote. That's wonderful that you're looking at this microeconomic indicator, which controls 20% of US interest rates. How about we focus on the macroeconomic indicators that control 80% of how interest rate moves? The reality in life is always going to be within the ethos of macroeconomics, and rarely will you ever find truth, transparency, and logic within microeconomics because their system is broken. Their system is broken. Right? When you start peeling back the layers of any microeconomic indicator, you know, like uh, I'll just give you a great example gross domestic product, right? You'll have all the economists on T on TV talking about the GDP. Okay. But one of the if you look at the equation for GDP, one of them's government spending. So if you ever want to increase the GDP, you could just have the government spend more. Yet from a macro level, your life becomes significantly more fucking miserable. So maybe don't fight focus on microeconomics because their indicators are flawed. I mean, I don't I don't know why microeconomics hasn't lost more favor when you literally have the head of the Federal Reserve saying the data is trash on camera, on TV, yet you still have all these economists talking about microeconomics on all of the different media stations. It's ridiculous to people.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, they're just hard to me. What's that? You've seen the Hunger Games, right? The 12 districts. Yeah, 12 districts. How many districts does the uh Federal Reserve hold in this country? All of them. That's the right answer. It is, it is, but what's the number of uh federal reserve districts?

SPEAKER_01

Because you got to include the Fed head, too, right? That's true. That's true. You know what would be a great place to start in the reference? You know what would be a great place to start, Goose? Asking the American people why they don't control the US dollar. Why doesn't the U.S. government control the US dollar?

SPEAKER_00

This is why I watched Greer instead of Besson. I mean, Godspeed to Besson, he's doing good work, but Greer is where you see the actual chains of power moving through trade routes and alignments and all these things.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Greer might decide Greer's got a gigantic task ahead of him next month. I've I am sending a lot of well wishes to Jameson Greer. For those of you who don't know, Jamison Greer is one of the most powerful people in Donald Trump's cabinet. He is the ambassador to U.S. trade. So all of these trade deals we're doing have been sponsored by the cabinet member named Jamison Greer. And he is getting ready to renegotiate in a very hostile environment, the USMCA. A full renegotiation next month. So I've been keeping Jamison Greer in my thoughts, right? Because he's gonna have a tough road to hoe with Canada.

SPEAKER_00

Not after all that angillary shit they put in the last one to sneak out of other treaties. Hell, bring uh bring Rubio in there and Bess and let's talk about sanctioning some of their shit and that 85% of foreign-owned land that belongs to Canada.

SPEAKER_01

Public, I will state this publicly, man. I was wrong about Marco Rubio. I hated I hated the guy for the longest time, and oh my goodness, is he the best Secretary of State I've ever seen?

SPEAKER_00

So I want him in 28.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, me too. I had Marco Rubio pegged wrong, he sounded too polished, which usually means a silver-tongued politician. But the reason why he sounded so polished, and I will say this publicly, is because he actually believes in what's coming out of his mouth, and he's uh a beacon of what it is to be an American. And I was wrong, I was just dead wrong.

SPEAKER_00

You think we'll ever get Europe out of our hemisphere?

SPEAKER_01

They do sit on every major trade lane through those stupid islands and colonial holdings, they're so deeply embedded that it's gonna be a difficult task, but you know, we'll have to see like the power and influence of the European Union is is is shining right now in Iran, right? They had a hell of a money laundering scam going in Iran, and so if we can get the Iranian government to sign a favorable agreement in the Iranian conflict, then I think we will make headways into getting them out of our hemisphere.

SPEAKER_00

I hope so. They've had us by the balls for 86 years. I mean, when we raise our retirement age to bail out Greece, and Greece doesn't change its policies, and now they keep wanting retiring it for you. Like, I'm sorry, but we have to say no. This is killing our people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. A lot of it, my friend, still remains to be seen. And I don't, you know, I've studied the globalist, I've been a globalist, I'm now an anti-globalist for the better part of 30 years. And they've been in, they've have such incredible money laundering schemes. I mean, for the love of God, do you know how much the globe is uh is financing just in the next 10 years on climate change across all governments? 10 trillion dollars. Jesus trillion, right? So, you know, they've been in charge for a long time. I'm not gonna bet against them, but every time they take a hit, my heart smiles, right?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, God will acknowledge that there's you know three legitimate forms of climate change, right? You've got desertification, oceanification, the pole shifting, natural crap that actually happens, right? You've got domestic impacts from overpolluting your local waterways or anything like that. But I'm sorry, why are we paying money for these people to travel to the Amazon rainforest to happily and publicly burn down eight miles of the Amazon rainforest, to put in private jet landing strips, to come in to take pictures of the Amazon rainforest and complain to the world that we're endangering the what are we doing? Well, uh, here's my thing, right?

SPEAKER_01

Uh I would I I'm an environmentalist, and if some of my money was actually cleaning up a river or or or reforestration policies, planting trees, if if any of my money was going to actually improving the planet rather than to complex NGOs and boards of directors, which never reinvest the money into the environment, then I'd probably shut up. But here we are. You know, you tax me for environmental climate policy, and then you don't do anything. I mean, you know what it would do for the planet's oxygen level?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

If we just got plastics out of the ocean, what do we do?

SPEAKER_00

Or fed LV beds.

SPEAKER_01

What do we like across the whole globe? We're 1.4 trillion into setting aside money to clean the the plastics out of the ocean, and there hasn't been one operation yet.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, garbage island's still there, the size of Texas.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And that chokes out the anaerobic bacteria, and the anaerobic bacteria actually produce that beautiful thing called oxygen. So if my money was going to clean up the planet, I'd probably shut up. But my money goes to NGO boards, and then when the politicians leave office for their funded climate change, they get a four and five hundred thousand dollar job sitting on the board of directors of the NGO. So I think I have every right to bitch, even as an environmentalist.

SPEAKER_00

Well, even the people who are actually doing 2% of something through the private sector, they're doing it wrong. I mean, look at the the greening of the desert. Do they not understand what that's going to do to the Amazon when all that that silt doesn't cross over to keep the the fertilizer viable? Correct. It's complex, my friend.

SPEAKER_01

We can't sell them all today, but we can keep at it, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes. I appreciate you coming on. Any uh any closing thoughts for the audience?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we'll go back to propaganda. Sure. Okay. Here, I I really need to drive this point home. If you read a headline and it elicits an emotion, then it is propaganda. Don't read it. If you read a headline and it makes you too happy, it's propaganda. If it makes you too angry, it's propaganda. Literally, the baseline of propaganda is to elicit emotion. So if you read a headline and it gives you really strong emotions, then you know you're being propagandized and you probably shouldn't consume said source of media.

SPEAKER_00

Agreed. All right. Well, thank you for coming on, Black Jack. I appreciate you taking the time. And as always, I'll uh I'll see you on TikTok.

SPEAKER_01

You got it, my friend. Have a wonderful day. Hey, happy Father's Day to everybody that's a dad out there.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, thank you for doing this on Father's Day. It didn't even occur to me. I appreciate you doubly.

SPEAKER_01

So oh, so glad to help, man. This is awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Take care.

SPEAKER_01

All right.

SPEAKER_00

You and welcome back to the Royal House of Goose. Today we're going to be talking with a friend of mine who is was very involved actually with the propaganda sphere in his early career and has since then been teaching people how to debunk and dissect it when he realized just how fucked it really was in the end. He's also a well-respected banker, though he more focuses on you know little league and family these days, the true American pastime. And his knowledge is is really bottomless in in some of these areas. So I've asked him to come on and Mr. Blackjack will be discussing propaganda and a little bit of banking with us today. As always, you can find the Substack through the Royal House of Goose as well as the Privy Council, the new short book, The Chamberpot, that was written like one of Mr. Callendar's, it was a propagandist back in the Founders' Day. Pamphlets, and it contains all the gossip and the slander and the rumors that surrounded our founders in their time. If you'd like to dissect some of the Easter eggs in the Privy Council, it's an excellent place to start. Otherwise, dive right in. Uh, we update it every week with two or four, depending on how hectic it is. Let's see. There's a merch store out again. It is there's there's there's no discernible theme necessarily, but I think you'll have a fun time if you take a look at the Royal House of Goose. And uh as always, we've got our sub stack releases. I think that's that's pretty much it. And with that, let's get into Mr. Blackjack.