Episode 2 - We Are Not Our Stereotypes (Mostly)

We’re Virgo and Libra, and we are here to tell you that we are absolutely nothing like what you’ve read about us. This week, we dig into our full birth charts, debunk the stereotypes of all twelve signs, and figure out why a Virgo whose house is a disaster and a Libra who owns nothing beige somehow make complete sense astrologically. Also, we talk about why one of us processes emotions through her body and the other one would rather do literally anything else. Spoiler: it’s the Scorpio moon’s fault.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

See you're such a Virgo because you you want me to be timed and constrained, but then you also want me to s wrap it up. You can't have it both ways. Wasn't this the point of starting the new podcast? Yes, and I don't disagree that we need more structure. It is helpful, but s I'm we have different middle grounds, I suppose. Uh-huh. Because I once I get an idea, you gotta just let me go. You can't be looking at me doing this little number of wrap it up.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

We will be sitting here talking for 38 minutes. You're welcome for all this wisdom. The Anunnaki aliens. And the conversation started with why do you like Malibu and pineapple juice? So?

SPEAKER_01 0:36

I can connect many dots, my friend.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Welcome back to Dark Moon Full Moon. Hello. Welcome to episode two.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

Yep. We've had busy, a busy last week and a half or so each. And we I will be we will both be busy throughout the summer, but are we really having fun keeping this going at the second episode?

SPEAKER_00 1:13

We're like, we're doing great. We're doing great. We're doing real good.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

We have two episodes out.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Hey, you know what? We didn't put out like a full schedule. That would stress me off. We were like episodes every Monday. Nope.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Not happening. Well, you know, though this is the most structure I had on my ver at the beginning of my podcast with my old host, was like we recorded every Friday. I don't know, like I needed to correct. It wasn't literally a public breakup. You were joking, but it was a I mean, but can we talk talk kind of we're gonna talk about signs today, yes? Signs. Like astrological signs. Yeah, yeah. Not like oh give me a sign.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

God please.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

Uh no, so what was funny about that person is that he was a Virgo. Tell us about Virgo men. Not the same.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Not the same. I'm not saying it's the same. I know. I'm letting the world. I'm letting everybody know. Virgo women, creme de la creme. I mean, you're not gonna find better than a Virgo woman, okay? I'm just saying. Virgo man, scum of the earth.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

You know, what's funny? I was having a conversation with our friend Danny. Hi, Danny. She's probably listening. She's our biggest supporter. Um, I was like, you know, this is about to sound very feminizy of me, but I I feel like, in fairness, you could say every male example of an astrological sign is the worst. Like, I'll talk to you about male Libras and how terrible they are.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

And I think we're gonna get into some famous ones because I don't know a whole lot of male like male Libras.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Obviously, I'm not a Libra. I unfortunately do. Anyway, um, but we'll get to that. Um so but my old host was a Virgo, and so he w he was he put out a schedule far in advance, but it was just like not fun. Yeah. And part of that was because here's my theory, and I hope I don't sound too like snobby, but this was also reinforced by some of my own friends who listened to the podcast. When he would steal an episode for lack of a better term, and be talking about himself, all my friends, this very much stroke my ego, but they were like, I was so bored, like I want to hear you. I came to your podcast for you. And so a lot of a lot of the scheduling had to do with like his stories that were no longer entertaining or funny, so it was like I could have an entire episode based on my thoughts of him.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

Hey boy, if you're listening, um yeah, it just became like a reenactment of his little black book that I just questioned if it exists half the time. I feel like there was a lot of Dululu in there, but okay, so here's what I want to do. Okay, yeah. So we're talking astrology today, and what mainly we're gonna be focused on here is like rising. No, nope, not rising signs, sun signs. So we'll get into a little bit about like your sun sign or your moon sign and your rising. We're not gonna go into like all of it. There's just too much. Yeah, like we could do this later, but not. Oh man, there's just so much. But I think it would be fun to kind of go through all of the astrological signs and like talk about their stereotypes, like what they're stereotypically known for, and then we'll start elaborating like on our personal signs. But you know, in true Virgo fashion, I kind of forgot that other people also have other signs. Because I was gonna spend the entire episode talking about Libras and Virgos, and like if I wasn't one of those, I might check out pretty quick. Be like, okay, well, that was fun. Yeah, why would they care about? We want you all to feel seen. They're like, what are you, a Leo? Just talking about yourself? I mean just I didn't know better. Alright, so Aries is the first sign. Uh, we're not in Aries anymore. No, but we left not too long ago. Aries are known to be impulsive, aggressive, competitive, impatient, but they're natural-born leaders. Um, they are the act first and think later group. Um, they have really short tempers, they're a fire sign, and fiercely independent. My new brand new baby niece is uh an Aries. So I can't wait to see how that pans out and how she shows up in her sign. Again, this is just stereotypes. Yeah, yeah. Um, Taurus, earth sign, very stubborn, lazy, materialistic, obsessed with comfort and luxury, loves food, resistant to change, extremely loyal, slow to anger, but terrifying when pushed. We kind of laugh because um I am a Taurus rising.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

Well, and I don't the closest person other than you who I've ever known, this person was a Taurus son, but was my grandmother. And I recognize she was one of my favorite people in the whole world, and she died when I was really young. So I recognize I only got to know her as you know, a grandmother as a young child. I don't know if anything would have ever changed if I if I gotten to know her in my adulthood, but a lot of what you just described is very true. Like she was she was not she wasn't as short as me, but she wasn't very tall either. But she was scary when she was mad, and like like a man, a grown man should have been afraid of her. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

I mean, I would like to say that I've been told that before, that it's kind of scary when I get mad. I think so.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Like I'm not I'm not quick to anger. I've never truly been um like scared of you, but there's just this like respect that you command, and like I just I joke a lot, but like I would just never cross you. I'm like it first of all, it wouldn't be worth it, like morally. But I also just I think if you were actually mad at me, I would be like like that time I I was talking about how I was like, pull a knife on me all day long. But if you ever like tried to hurt my feelings, I don't think I would ever recover. Like if you told me you never liked me or something, I'd be like, pull a knife on you. Yeah, you could you'd have physically hurt me, it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Anyway, you we should dissect that one of these days. Oh all right. Our next sign is an air sign, it's Gemini. It's your favorite kind of Betty's.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

I I think it's funny because sorry, I have a warped perception of Aries because of poor experiences, and you kind of have a warped perception of Geminis in some ways because of the experience. Is it so warped or is it just a a scorned perception? Evidence-based. Maybe we if we if we've all we've all been scorned by a sign, which is why these stereotypes come out. So please continue.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Yeah, our darling, incredibly handsome president of the United States is a Gemini. So that's again evidence-based. Geminis are known to be kind of two-faced, uh, very indecisive. They love to gossip. Shout out Zach. He loves to be a gossip girl. He was like, wait a minute. Yeah. Uh they can't commit, uh, they talk too much, very inconsistent, very chaotic, but can also be the funnest person in the room. I would say that about Zach. Yeah. I yeah. I mean, back in the day, he was definitely known as like the party dude. You know, it was like parties here, Snooky walking in. He was Snooky.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Yeah, that's how you've always described him. Like, you can't embarrass him. He will he will dance goofy, he'll go dance with all the gays. Like, he doesn't. My whole birthday shout-out to him is just these videos of like him being nonsensical.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

So remember that time I put bright neon press on nails on him? Yeah, and he just made him like use his phone.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

But that yes, weren't a lot of women were doing that on TikTok. They were like showing men how hard it is to have long nails and like try and pick up a coin off the floor with nails.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Um, our next sign lovely cancers. Uh, they are the crybaby of the zodiac, overly emotional, very clingy, manipulative, obsessed with home and family. They can hold grudges like a motherfucker, and we'll nurture you to death.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Yes. And so, see, those negative stereotypes I have to argue with because I do not have a scorn perception of cancers, and not just because of like my moon and rising. I think of Justina. Hi, if you're listening. Um Justina's uh I have actually never seen her be a quote unquote crybaby. Yeah, um, but she is all that like safe space nurturing energy that any like unhealed child would ever need. Um, and then my friend Crystal, who maybe one day I can get her to listen, but a person who I also love very much, safe space, all nurturing, all caregiving. So yeah, I don't have a scorned like experience with cancers.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

I think that I'm pretty sure my grandmother was a cancer, which would make a lot of sense because she was very emotional, but not I mean, I don't know. Like again, she was my favorite person, she had a lot of flaws. She had she would do a lot of like silent treatment shit when she was mad and would kind of cry in a manipulative kind of way. But my later in life example would be my sister-in-law, and I guess if I would call her emotional, it's like I'm very curious what her moon sign is. It's gotta be a fire sign, like Aries. Because yeah, it's gotta be something like that because that was her thing. Like everyone was like, Oh, don't piss her off. It's not worth pissing her off. So it was like everyone's tiptoeing and playing mindsweeper with her.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

Anyway, moving on. Um, our next sign is our Leos. Uh, very again, stereotypes, narcissistic, dramatic, attention-seeking, egomaniac. Everything is about them, but also can be generous and fiercely loyal and genuinely warm. My oldest is a Leo, and he hates those stereotypes. Yeah, but he also kind of embodies them a little bit. He that boy can't pass a mirror without looking at himself. Like he's very handsome. I mean, it's it's fair. He's like the cutest boy.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

He's like Bruno Mars, like, gotta kiss myself, I'm so pretty. Kinda, and that's fair for Bruno to say. You know what I mean? When you have that type of like conventional attractiveness, I get it. But but really, I didn't know him when he was little, but I've heard enough about him and I've even spent enough time with him in the last few years, you know, before he was the almost grown-up he is now, but he's very sweet.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Um, and anyone, you know, something that I think is gonna be a plus for him in not only romantic relationships, but in all relationships is that he asks you about you when he's talking to you and he listens. He wants to know. It's not like this manipulative chicks love when you ask them about themselves. Like he really wants to know about your day and stuff. It's funny.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Yeah, he's like, hey, how are you? Anyway, uh, you know, yeah. All right, so our next sign is the Virgo. Uh stereotypes include being clean freaks, perfectionists, critical of everyone, including themselves, overthinkers, uptight, can't relax, but also incredibly hardworking and devoted. Um, we'll kind of go into me personally and why a lot of those fit, and a lot of them don't. Yeah, same for Libra. We'll go into that after we get through the list. Totally. So next is our Libra, uh, stereotypically known to be indecisive. They're the balancing scales sign, you know. Uh people pleasing, obsessed with aesthetics, very flirty, avoids conflict at all costs, can't make a decision, but incredibly charming and fair-minded. Okay. Uh, what's next? Scorpio. Yeah, so next in the zodiac is Scorpio. Um, known to be manipulative, jealous, obsessive, vindictive, will destroy you if you cross them. Intense eye contact knows all of your secrets. And they're either your best ally or your worst enemy. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

I would have to concur. I'm not talking about my daughter right now, and I feel weird commenting about it with someone else in my family as a Scorpio who's left some scars on me, so some of those negative ones, I'm like, uh-huh. And it's like though they're the water sign who is sensitive, but they can not always, but they can come off the most selfish about their sensitivity. Their sensitivity isn't always to others, it's like you know, like it's about themselves. Um yeah, I can see that.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

And the negative side you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

See, what's interesting is my friend and mentor, life coach, whatever hat you want to put on her genie, is she's a Scorpio. And so I can see, you know, she makes jokes all the time about her being like a jealous wife and, you know, very stabby if if other women want to look at her husband like in a joking way, or you know, or vice versa. And so it's it's funny that you know, I I only know that about her through her, so she is able to say, like, yeah, this is who I am. Um, but it's just funny to kind of see both sides of the spectrum.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

I love that though, because it's um I shouldn't make it about like it's healing for me. I don't even know her in the capacity that you do, but it's refreshing to know that because those examples are kind of the only ones I have.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Or like of my daughter who I'm going to see in a in the light of a parent and then this other person. So it's like uh you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Yeah, totally. Uh next is our Sagittarius friends. Uh fire sign, right? Yes, fire sign. Okay, so you're gonna laugh at the first one that I say on this list. Apparently. Uh commitment phobe. Oh yeah. Yeah. Blunt to the point of cruelty, always leaving, can't be tied down, foot in mouth constantly, but the most adventurous and fun person you'll ever meet. That's hilarious. Because I know who you're thinking of.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

I know who you're thinking of. I'm thinking of a few people, but so real quick, if I can do this quickly, I like to talk about um i I didn't make this up. This is a known thing you can kind of find online, but basically it's like each each element the so each sign embodies an element, blah blah blah, and so they can all be described as something. I would agree with the description of Sag's being the calmest of the fire signs. Okay, it doesn't mean they're the calmest of people, you know, but ha but Aries is like a wildfire, Leo's are like a bonfire, maybe a campfire, and Sagges could be like a candle. So but then I know who you're thinking of that you're like, this person is like hulking out a lot of times. Um, you know, and I even I know someone else, someone who I've known since middle school, who um I can see some of those always leaving, gonna exit before you can tell them to leave. They're you know, it's all everything's like on their time. So yeah, it's it's just funny. But I but I get along with them really well. I have like a special place in my heart for Sagges, and I think they a lot of time I it comes sort of like the way I admire you as a Virgo. They have a lot of attributes that I um aspire to have, so I tend to admire them.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

My first real ex was a Sag. Yeah, and so it's funny, commitment phob, like can't be tied down. Yeah, that that part's yeah, shout out. You're not listening.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

No, but I would say it's also true for the mutual friend we're talking about and like my own like childhood friend that I'm like kinda, yeah. I know.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

I freaking love Zodiac, it's just it's amazing. I don't know. Okay, so next in line is our Capricorns, Danny. Hi Danny. Hey girl, okay. Um, workaholics can be very cold, emotionally unavailable, uh obsessed with status and success, yeah, no work and life balance at all. Oh, you know who else I'm thinking of. Uh do I? My boss. Oh, I forgot she was a cappy. Will cancel plans for a deadline and secretly the most ambitious person in the room.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

Oh, yeah, I mean that.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

See, I I want to sit here and apply all of the Capricorn stuff to Danny by default. Yeah. And I feel like a she's she's not super stereotypical in some of the ways, but then w when the other person clicked, I was like, oh my god, amazing. Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Yeah, and it's hard like I didn't touch on this last time, but like I said, I've I've just had wonky, like I've I feel like I've had different ends of the spectrum of these Capricorns where there are people like Danny, there's even I mean the celebrity doesn't know I exist, but I listen to their podcast, and so I kind of feel like I know them a little bit because they're talking about themselves, who's like a sound version of an earth sign Capricorn. All Cappies are earth signs, but you get what I'm saying. And then there's like like I have like an ex-girlfriend who that that went wrong and we just weren't right for each other, but some of the positive things I can say, yeah, that makes sense. But then some of these negative ones, I'm like also, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

And just so there's stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Like I think there's a shadow and a light to everything. Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

So that's what I think it's funny. I've had like mixed experiences with them. I just can't say it enough.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

Alright, so next is Aquarius. Uh emotionally detached, thinks that they're smarter than everyone else. A contrarian, weird for the sake of being weird. I don't know. I know. Can't be vulnerable, but genuinely wants to save the world. That's my boy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

I mean some of that. I wouldn't say he's emotionally detached, but on the surface, he wants to appear that way.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Well, I think that has a lot to do with his moon sign, too. Which again, we'll we'll kind of touch base on that here in just a second. But I don't think that he thinks he's smarter than everyone. No. Um, I think it depends on the subject. I think he's very similar.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

Yeah, ask him about some game shit, and he's gonna be like, bruh. Yeah you don't even know. Yeah. Like he loves to do that, but what he knows, he knows. Yeah. So he's gonna stand ten toes down on that. He's airy in that way, just a lot of useless information in that noggin. Sometimes useful too. Yeah, but you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

All right, and last but not least, as our Pisces uh lives in a fantasy. You they can't deal with reality, cries constantly, they have a martyrdom complex, no boundaries, easily manipulated, but can be the most creative and empathetic sign of the whole chart. I'm thinking of two different people.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

I know one of them. I'm thinking of my brother. Uh-huh. Is that who you were thinking of? Actually, not initially, but he does cross my mind as isn't isn't she a Pisces? Yes. Because so is or is she an Ares? No, remember her birthday twin, our other mutual friend? Aren't they both Pisces? They were. I remember that. Okay. Because they have this yeah. So that yeah. There's there's a lot more going on with this other complex friend that you're mentioning. But someone else I thought of was um someone who I haven't been close to in a long time, so it's an unfair assessment. Like I only knew this person as a teenager, but it's my daughter's uncle.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

And I actually wouldn't say that he's easily manipulated. He's actually pretty confident, and he it it's it is in fact, my my ex, my daughter's dad, was he was a Libra man. Oh my gosh. Anyway, very toxic, manipulative. I could I could go through the whole list. Um, and I always a admired that he, as even a younger brother, was not swayed by his older brother being this way. You're just kind of like, okay, bitch, like do what you want. And I always kind of liked that about him. Yeah. Even though he was a Pisces, like he just didn't give a fuck. He was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Yeah, my brother is a Pisces. Um, so he's the opposite of Virgo. We're on the opposite ends, like exactly. Which is so interesting. Not to go off on this, but both of my boys are on the opposite too. Like they're opposite from each other. Um, okay, so real quick, famous Virgos, ready? Beyonce. Beyonce. Beyonce. You look more like Luther Van Dross. You don't know that quote. But probably not. I don't spend enough time there. Anyway, it's uh anyway, you know New York, uh. She's confronting, I cannot remember what her name is. I'm pretty sure it's on the flavor of love. It might be from one of the other reality shows. And this girl says, Um, you know, everyone always compares her to Beyonce. She's like, Beyonce, Beyonce, you look more like Luther Van Dross. And it's like the read of the century. It's amazing. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

I love New York. Yeah. Anyway, I'm glad we love New York. I was just gonna I've always been when you ask me about an unpopular opinion, I never think of it. The spot, but Beyonce is overrated. I love Destiny's Child as a 90s girl. I didn't so much love Bee's solo career. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

I don't everyone's just like Queen Bee, and I'm like, Yeah, but that's very Virgo behavior of her to be like, I am kind of tired of sharing, like I'm carrying this whole group, so I might as well be carrying just myself.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

I love that for her. Like, I think before there were Kardashians, there was Beyonce like embracing her thickness, and I know she f she struggled with weight issues, but I'm just saying Beyonce paved the way for a lot of things. I'm not denying that. It's just in general, with people loving uh her solo career, I don't agree.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

That's all. Yeah. Well, speaking of Kim Kardashian, she is like the quintessential Libra.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

I feel that funny.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

It is really funny. You know who else is a Libra? Interesting. I didn't know this. Gwyneth Paltrow.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

And Eminem. So Gwyneth, I don't I don't think I ever like I liked her in movies, don't get me wrong, but I don't think I cared that much about to know that. But Eminem. You knew that? Yes, because I was a super fan growing up. Like, ask, well, I don't know who you would ask my parents or something, but those were the posters covering my wall that like I should not have been a fan, which is why I can still sing all the lyrics. Like, whatever. I was a huge fan when I was a kid. So yes, I knew Eminem was a Libra. But you don't see a lot of that in him because he just always had this this damaged yeah, I'm tough, but it's kind of typical of a Libra to be like.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

I want to know what his moon and rising sign are. I bet it's on the internet somewhere. I'm sure. I'll look it up here in a second.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

Um, other famous Virgos. Are you ready for this one? You're gonna like this one. Tim Burton.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

I know I saw that. And then it said he's not a s a typical Virgo, which is interesting. And I don't know in what ways they mean exactly. Um but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

And then last on this list, uh Freddie Mercury. Is a Virgo. R.I.P. Freddie. I mean yeah. I I'm I'm not gonna sit here and act like I knew Freddie, you know. I did watch the documentary with uh what's his name? What's that dude's name that played him? Oh, uh Rem Remy Malik.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Remy Malik, I'm pretty sure. Malik. Something like that. People say Malik, but it might be pronounced Malik. But Remy Malik, yeah. Yeah. That's not my favorite movie. I didn't even see the movie, but I like I like what Queen and like Freddie did. Again, as like a gay person, Freddie still contributed the way David Bowie did, the way a lot of these early stars did. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

So I think you know, we talked about the stereotypes of a Virgo, but where I differ is like I am not a neat freak. Like I just I could not be bothered to do all of that shit. You know, my sister is a Virgo, and she is like the poster child for Virgos. She has Virgo all through her chart, but I mean, there is a spot for everything. If you're like, hey, do you have a blue highlighter? There's she's like, Yes, it's gonna be in this drawer and this spot that's labeled blue highlighter. Like it's it's that crazy but also impressive. Yeah, and it's not me. I you know, if you ask me, do you have a blue highlighter? I'm like, you know, I might have one in this like random pile in this room, you know.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

You might have seen it once in a dream.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Well, I'm saying, like, I know where my chaos is. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. Um, but in other ways, I mean, how how do you think that I do fit into the Virgo stereotype?

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Um, yeah, I would agree the neat freak's not a thing. I'm not saying you're messy either. Um I am. Well, I mean, whatever. But I again I think you're still you're refreshing in more ways than one for me. Like, I used to be very critical of my lack of organization and stuff like that. And um, I don't have time to unpack my childhood wounds, but the point is they come in your house and I'm like, ooh, girl, this is nice. You actually you've complimented the weirdest things about me that I've never heard. Like you've described me as a spot for everything. Maybe not so much these days, but at one point you you said that I I strive for stuff like that. That like right now things are out of control, but when I really get it together, yeah, I purge things. Yeah. I used to be a pretty bad pack rat, but now I purge things and I do try and create a spot for everything because I have limited space in my home. Yeah. Um, so sorry, back to you though. Like, yeah, I would say you're not a neat freak physically. Um, I you I think you're more of um you can be self-critical and even critical of others, and maybe I'm just biased, but I don't think you're toxically critical.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Maybe with yourself, we're all pretty hard on ourselves. Um, but your criticism of other people is a lot of times really valid, and I find it funny. Um what else is it does it say though, aside from the neat freak stereotypes?

SPEAKER_00 26:58

Um let's see. I know that one of them was a perfectionist, overthinker. Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Yeah. Um definitely an overthinker. Perfectionist when it comes um yeah, but again, I don't find it toxic. Like I think that's why it's a lot better. Yeah, and I guess I can just speak for the time that I've known you. Um, again, a lot of the perfectionists I know and the earth signs I know, their perfectionism is fucking annoying. Like, I now I'm hearkening back to one of the Capricorns I don't like. It's someone who I work with who's very like, no one wants to help me. And then you try and help them, they're like, no, not like that. You can be like that, but like you're this person is in a position of authority where they just love to be the martyr. They love to like say you're not doing it right, and no one helps me, but everybody does it wrong. I just I fucking hate that shit. You gotta pick what do it your fucking self or give people the freedom to do something for you or aside from you. You can be like that, but you're not like abusive about it, I don't think. Just you're I think about your charcuterie that you can make, these platters. The I'm not this is not my bias. I see pictures of the cakes you used to make when you own a bak owned a bakery. That's some cake boss shit, that's some Pinterest shit, that's some shit I would have only ever seen on You made a Game of Thrones cake. It did. That shit was badass. It's more than Pinterest worthy. That should be award-winning. I'm not joking. So, like you You have a perfectionism about you, but you um you nail kind of everything you try because of it. So I guess that's why I'm saying, like, I don't think I don't know, like sort of like with me. You don't judge me for like my lack of not being able to create your vision because only you can see your vision, but you know I'm not gonna be able to do it. Yeah. Like you accept that.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

I think that that's where I've grown a lot because I can recognize parts in my younger self where it was like I didn't understand why people couldn't get on my level, so to speak. Yeah, like you know, like you say you're not a good trainer. I'm like, you can't teach people things. No, I'm it doesn't matter what I'm doing. Like, you know, my mom would ask me, you know, just show me what to do, like to try to help with charcuterie or cakes or anything else. I'm like, I can't show you, I don't know how to explain to you. You fold in the cheese. Exactly. You just fold it in. You just fold it in. Like, why is that hard? But I had to explain so many times that, like, I don't know how to tell you to do with your hands what my hands do. Right. And even, you know, like I said, my mentor at one point said that one day I should teach how to create like sacred circles, like full moon circles, the way that I used to. Um, very intricate designs. And I'm like, I just intuitively do it. Yeah, I just wing it.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

I don't you don't have a sometimes I would have a plan, like, oh, this would be cool, but very rarely but you developed the plan. Like the I get that, like when it just comes to you, it's sort of like the only thing I could relate to is like if someone asked me to teach them how to read tarot, I'm like, well, that's not it's not it's not in a book somewhere. Um there are books, but you know what I mean? It's an intuitive thing that you just figure out, right? Um anyway.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

I so yeah. The other thing um that it said about Virgos can't relax. Again, I can recognize that in like my sister, but I think in my case, I'd be relaxing.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Yours is a lack of ability to mentally relax. Your anxiety, you're yeah, you're an overthinker, right? So your brain never stops. But I love that you can physically go just like starfish onto the couch. You're like whatever at the end of the lion puck. Yeah, like I love that though. You'll go, you'll go smoke, you'll relax. Like you have a lot of self-care quality. You go sit in your bath for two hours. That's great. On a quick day, yeah. That's and I don't even know how I've sat in your bath for two as soon as the water's getting cold. I'm like, well, I'm bored and I'm tired of like nope, I turn on the hot water and I get it turned back up. But you know this side note, like I'm always reading in your bathtub, and eventually I get tired of like not being able to like touch things or put my whatever. Um, so you can relax, but the mental you are always thinking of the worst.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Yeah, I have 58 tabs open at all times in my brain.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

And what's what's good is again, you're you're not a perfectionist in like your work. You don't you don't give a fuck about your job when you leave it. It's more like things that people you love, your kids, you know, other scenarios. That's what your brain won't stop worrying about.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

Yeah. So I'm a perfectionist in so many different ways. I think it's just that like I don't expect perfectionism out of everybody else anymore.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

But you used to. I d I didn't know that version of you really, so I'm I'm asking genuinely.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

Totally.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

I mean I don't know. I was never the type, like I was never gonna reload the dishwasher like, you know, because someone didn't do it the way I I don't care. Yeah, you did the dishes, great. Like I don't care. I don't care about that stuff, you know. So I just I'm not overly critical in that regard. Yeah. But um so for Libras, let's talk about your your where you do fall into the stereotype versus where you don't. The first one being indecisive. 100%. We can't make a fucking choice to save our lives. That's not completely true. That's not completely fair.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Right. I'm gonna be like Aiden in this regard and say I hate some of these sometimes because I embody them, sometimes because they're just not true across the board. Yeah. Um one thing I have to say is like I sometimes I enjoy, but most of the time I dislike my uh when it comes to Libras, those things that you'll see on Instagram, like your your Virgo Game of Thrones character, or your, you know, just that shit, or the way people describe Libras, or it'll be a Libra aesthetic. It's almost always pink and princess y and flirty, like all these things that I'm actually not. And it just every time Libras get done dirty, they say like we're sluts or like we're um just like liars, that Libras are liars. And I'm like, I But you yourself have admitted that you're a really good liar. Yes. I am a good liar. It doesn't mean that you do it, right? That's there's been a journey with that too, which I'll maybe unpack in another episode. Um I don't like to lie. Where the Libra lying comes from is that they want to keep the peace. So they're reluctant to face confrontation. Yeah, they're reluctant to just tell somebody, yeah, the color doesn't look good on you, or it's hard. Like you don't want to hurt people's feelings. But then this is what I was talking to Danny about people pleaser, right? And you you get the toxic Libras too, who this is what I was talking to Danny about. I was like, the toxic Libras, because they're known for their balance, the toxic ones are the the vengeful type, the type to get you back for something to even the field when they feel they've been wronged. Like it's just they're the worst. Yeah. So anyway. I don't know any of that but the indecisiveness, yes, sometimes, but then sometimes you've described me as making a choice too quickly because there are so many that I'm just like overwhelmed. Yeah, so I'm like that one. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

Okay. Here's we'll go into this in just a second. We're gonna get like the Libra versus Virgo. But what I wanted to go back and say, because you you're kind of dogging on some Libra aesthetic. Girl, you are aesthetic. You're not girly aesthetic, but look at everything is black and goth and death, and like yeah, you have your aesthetic and everything has to fit in it. Yes, to a point of like being being defiant, like you can't bend in some ways. Let me give an example. We are going to a wedding in a couple of weeks, and this I've never met her, this very sweet bride is getting married at a botanical garden in the summer, okay? And so she said, please wear bright colors, avoid black. And this girl over here about rescinded her RSVP, like, no, and then almost went and was like, fuck it. I'm wearing black anyway. Kick me out, I dare you. Like, we don't have to be little miss darkness everywhere we go. You're it's who I am. I get it, but like sometimes sometimes we can bend. You wore pink to the Barbie movie for me.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

After a lot of convincing, like you even said you didn't realize I had such an aversion to pink. I remember that. That was sort of like early in knowing each other. Um you were like, like, I I just thought your whole uh I like black was just sort of like a this silly thing I did, and then you realized that I actually was like, I don't know, I'm not gonna wear pink to the Barbie movie. I don't care if it's what everybody's doing. You just act like freaking Lego Batman all the time. Uh yeah, I don't want to do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But you were you, yes, you can I find a very cheap pink tank top and I wear it. But then even since then, I'm like, do you want this? And I wanted to give it to you because I'm not gonna wear it. Yeah. Did you give it to me? I wanted to. I either gave it to you or my daughter. I don't remember. I kinda want it if she doesn't wear it. Anyway, anyway, so so yes, I'm not saying I'm not about the aesthetic. I am, but it's Libras are almost always thought of as pinky and girly and flirty and just like a I'm trying to think of like a f a fictional character that's well known that people just assume Libras are, and of course I can't, and so I don't identify with a lot of that. The Libras are almost always done dirty with all of these stereotypes that you'll see on Instagram feeds, is all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Yeah. Well, okay, so going back to the whole indecisiveness and can't make a decision versus like you making too quick of decisions. Here's my prime example of how you and I completely differ from each other, okay? I'm gonna start with you. Okay, of course. So we've never been to the Cheesecake Factory before, but here's how I know it would go down. Okay, have you ever been to a Cheesecake Factory? No, but I hear the menu is like a book. It's a s it's a small novel. Um, many, many, many pages. Yeah. I'm not doing that. What she will do, she will open to the first food page, and the first thing that sounds interesting or like could be good, that's what she's getting. Like, she doesn't care. She doesn't there could be something on the very last page that's like free burger. I won't get there. And she'll never know about it because she won't. Yeah. I feel like you were the kid, maybe in school. Remember when teachers used to try to trick us and they would put it in the instructions like, write your name on the top of this paper and turn it in, like, don't answer any questions. And they were trying to prove a point that some kids don't read the directions. Yeah, I never had that happen to me, but I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I kind of feel like that would happen where it was like, Ugh, it's so frustrating. Cause I'm like, wait, hold on. Not only are we at a fancy restaurant, you like, why are we ordering factors?

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Why are well it's no, I know. You're talking about Can I just say something in my defense? Or we finish that thought. I'm sorry. Oh my god, I just want to rant about how you'll order a burger or chicken strips somewhere nice. Go ahead. No, I won't. You you can't describe that as me anymore if it's not steak and shrimp. But I was gonna say, in fairness, the other two air signs who are not Libras, who are closest to you, do the same thing. One of them does. Oh, not Zach. No, he's very much a foodie. So that's true. Okay, yeah, but but still Landon's the same. Anyway, all I can say in that I don't need to defend myself, but truly it comes, I know I'm indecisive, so much to the point that I really I will dwell for lack of a better word on some things. And that just doesn't feel worth it to me over food. I literally only have one shot to be here. That looks good enough. I might glance at a few other things and be like, hmm, what do I what would I regret not having if I came here? Like, I at least know this about myself, so I'm like, all right, land the plane, make the decision. Uh this is what I'll take.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

You're but your argument is my argument. I'm here this one time right now. I'm about to spend my money on it. I want to get the best thing that I could get. So tell them how I order.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Hold on. Let me just I'm a Libra dollface. If I if I'm if I treat it like that, like I'm only here this one time, I want to get what I want, then I'm gonna get all of them. Oh. Libras are all or nothing, and I don't have a hundred plus dollars to order all of these things at the fancy restaurant. So it does just become the yeah, this Cajun pasta looks great. Like, I'm gonna do that. You order, I have to let me just I'm gonna share a mo a recent story that I thought I thought it made me laugh, but I also thought it was like really adorable. You were going on a yoga retreat to Mexico, and initially this girl is already fucking nervous about her meals, and I'm like, why? And it's because this trip, this turned out to be a positive thing for you, but you your whole day was planned out. You you were served your food, you were told where to go, what to do. It was really relieving for you as a Virgo. However, initially that's scared because you were like, none of this food looks good, and I'm like, what are you talking about? And you're like, I'm looking at the menu, and I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, you were already you were weeks away from this trip, at least one week, maybe, and you're already looking at the menu for this place, and you're like, This is in Spanish, what does it say?

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Time out, time out. You have a little bit of this wrong. You have a little bit wrong. Remind me then. I'm sorry. I was Googling the menu because it was a wellness retreat center, and the You also have allergies. That's what I was about to say. Yeah, find me a wellness retreat center where it's not surrounded with bananas in Mexico, yeah. Um watermelon, cucumber, that sort of stuff. So I was like, you do have allergies. Am I going to be able to eat something? Right. And you were like, and you also you don't like eggs.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

You're like, I don't want eggs. There was eggs for every breakfast. I was like, bro. Yeah. So, but so I'm poking fun at her, but I actually her, now I'm talking to the audience, I'm poke fun at you. But you know it's out of like all this like love and admiration that I just find it really funny. We're so different in some ways that you're sort of just like this little animal in nature that I like watching sometimes. I'm like, okay. And so yeah, I was like, or I might have, now that I'm thinking back, I might have even texted you something like, how do you know? And then before you answered, I'm like, you're looking at the menu, aren't you? Like you've already found the menu for this place, and you're like, duh. But in fairness, you told your life coach or whatever the same thing. You were like, because I'm looking at the menu, Jeannie. Of course I am.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Yeah, like totally. And then I remember asking in office hours like the next day. I was like, Do we have the menu? Ha ha ha ha ha. Like that I was being totally serious, completely serious. Yeah. Um, I will Google just about every menu for a place that I'm going. And on top of that, I'm gonna go to Yelp and I'm gonna see what other people say.

SPEAKER_01 42:00

Like where I'm a lazy, that's what I'm a lazy person. I'm like, that's too much. Just too much.

SPEAKER_00 42:05

But like, listen, if I go to a restaurant, I'm never gonna look at the word lasagna and be like, mm, that's what I want. No, but if I see numerous people saying, get the lasagna, it's the best thing I've ever had. Guess what? I'm likely gonna get the lasagna after I've Googled a picture of the lasagna to make sure that it looks appealing to me.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Not the restaurant's picture.

SPEAKER_01 42:27

We need the person's picture on Yelp. Yelp picture, I want to know what it looks like. No, that's fair. So here's the thing. Again, I'm actually not criticizing that you do that. I I just I feel like people are just gonna be like, oh my gosh, she's so in love with her. But I'm really I've I will always express like love for the people who are close to me. These are the things I really love about you. I'm saying I won't do it. I'm lazy. But this is why we counterbalance each other. It's why I enjoy you, you and my life and our friendship and stuff is like I have you to do the things right now. You are keeping us both on track by looking at your little lists and shit that I'm not. I'm just talking.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

Oh my god, you know what I just realized? Huh? I'm like the little girl walking with and you're my balloon. Yeah, you're up there if you let me go just floating, and the all yeah, the only reason that you are somewhat tethered to you're my tethered gravity is because I'm holding because you're the earth and you're grounded.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

Like we just we are a good balance. Like, I have where you're rigid, I have fluidity, and where I need structure, you have that. So it's it's a good balance, truly. So yeah, I'm not gonna zoo all that, but the fact that you do benefits both of us, and it it scratches that itch in your little Virgo brain that you've already looked it all up, and but yeah, like I don't know how many times more early on in knowing you that we were about to go somewhere and you were like, Oh my god, their menu says XYZ, and I'm like, What you're looking at the menu, we're not even there yet. Like it just doesn't I know, but how well did you eat in Salem? No, yes, I I'm not arguing with it. I am gonna poke fun at you, but it's like I love all that. About you that you do. And we're gonna talk about our unhinged stuff, are we not in a little bit? Yeah, I mean we can kind of talk about that now a little bit. Okay, well then I want should we stay on you or do you want to tell the folks what you think the most unhinged Libra things I've ever done?

SPEAKER_00 44:14

Actually, let's hold on, let's go back because I want to go back to another big way that we differ as Libra and Virgo. Um, and this is, you know, I don't know. I I think that this has a lot to do with um just so many different things, you know, earth, air, our Enneogram types, all sorts of things. Um you make fun of me a lot because I'm just so in my body. I'm so earth across the board. I am coffee, I am an Enneogram eight, uh, which is a body type. I am, you know, all these different things. And you make fun of me because it'll be I'm like licking my finger and putting it on like winds to the E sea. You know, you are. Oh my gosh. I feel a slight tickle. I feel like I'm getting sick, and sure fucking enough, I'm getting sick.

SPEAKER_01 45:06

Listen, I used to not believe you until I saw you start to die in front of me within like 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

Yeah. I went from for another time. I went from completely healthy to dying of asphyxiation somehow.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

Like right before Christmas, everything's closed and we had to go get you meds. It was funny.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

Yeah. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

Anyway, but but uh no, I'm sorry, I like that you mentioned coffee because we didn't talk about that last time. I'm gonna say right now, I don't know shit about that, but you've informed me that I'm Vata and you're a Koffa, and you say that that makes sense for us, and you know.

SPEAKER_00 45:38

Yeah, I totally I mean, yes, it does. But for you and most air signs, you guys live up in your heads and beyond. Yeah. Like you're you're always in your thinking brain, right? You're always daydreaming, you're always overthinking what's you know, just hard to stay on topic. Uh oh yeah. Very hard to feel your feelings in your body. Very easy to think about your feelings, and we're we're analyzing them in our brains, and you're thinking of like you're researching how to get over a hurt instead of feeling the hurt to get through it. Not maybe not so much anymore, but I'm saying as a stereotype.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

I started to say this is interesting. So, like, it's that's partially true and partially not. So, as open-minded as I can be, the concept of feeling my feelings and my body sounds strange to me immediately. However, I'm very sensitive. Just Libra cancer, cancer, total crybaby, total hopeless romantic, like very devastated at every breakup, like all the stuff. So it's funny that like I very much feel the things emotionally and even physically. I am a person who's the opposite. Like, when I'm depressed, heartbroken, I'm not eating. I literally can't eat. I feel sick to my stomach if I'm trying to eat. Um, also, like, that's it. This is what where it comes the term broken heart comes from. Your heart chakra, that your chest hurts when you are emotionally in pain. So, like, I feel it. Yeah. It's like the the kundalini yoga stuff that I struggled with, which if we have time, I would love to talk about the funniness of that.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

Yeah, no, I think that's a really good point about how somatic movement that's that is designed to help you feel your feelings in your body and to like connect your mind to your body are really difficult for you.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

Yes. I I just I'm not it's it's we had this conversation before where it's like I'm not trying to dismiss it. I'm the type to be open-minded and believe that this stuff works. In fact, I'm like, this hasn't worked for me before. I would love to try something new. But I got to a point where I was going to your rebirthing classes and some of your yoga classes as support but also curiosity and all the things. And I would leave angry almost every time. And you were just like, Well, Jeannie would say that means it's working. And I'm like, that's great, Jeannie. I'm not disagreeing, but I had to weigh the point where I'm like, is it worth my own mental like if it's not working for me, I don't want to dismiss it entirely. But all I know is that like maybe I'm not ready for this right now, or maybe I'm not in the space for it on this Tuesday after a rough day at work or whatever. I I very I hear and agree with the concept that like it's working, so the only way out is through. Just do it. Well, it's kind of like doing I also want you to know that like I didn't want to be in your classes, and then you're trying to say bye to everyone, and thanks for coming. And I'm just like, yeah, bye. Because I'm mad, where Jeannie is the first to say to someone, hey, warn your loved ones and those you live with that you're a little bit prickly tonight, maybe, because we've opened up some childhood wounds, or we've whatever. So you would agree that I sort of didn't want to be this like little grenade around that you were afraid to pull the pin on accidentally, or you know, I didn't I I already have issues with is another subject, but with being perceived as like rude when my social batteries low in social settings, and I just I didn't want to feel that way and be that way around you and people. So I just was like, this isn't working for me, at least now.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

Anyway. Well, what I was gonna say is it's kind of like doing like a hundred squats in one night, and then you're like wake up the next day, you're like, not only do my legs hurt, but I do not have a fat ass. That is me. So this is pissed me off just too much, and didn't work. Yes, you know, you just have to keep showing up. That's not the point of this conversation, but no, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

I'm that's I just want to say I'm still open-minded to the idea, but at the time it was why I was like, I hate that like I want to see you and I want to hang out with you. We rarely got to see each other, and so I didn't want to see each other in like anger or in my own anger at the time.

SPEAKER_00 49:47

Um, but I just think that that's a really good and interesting difference that we have between each other. Is like I I can also intellectualize the fuck out of some feelings, and a lot of times that feels safer for me. Yeah, you know, because I don't want to feel it in my body. And you know, I did make jokes to Jeannie, you know, during some of our sessions where she's like, okay, and where do you feel? I'm like, when you feel that in your body, you know? Like, wouldn't you like to know weather boy, you know, that kind of that kind of bullshit where it was like, no, I don't, I don't I wanna talk about how healed I am, and I want you to believe that I'm so healed because I want to believe that I'm so healed, and I'm tired of my body keeping the motherfucking score, right?

SPEAKER_01 50:35

Well, and I wanna I promise I'm gonna try and keep this like narrow and not with too many octopus legs. I want to tell a quick story talking about your hyper awareness and my lack thereof.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:47

That's a good example. We once, um, you had a family emergency of sorts, and so we drove to a nearby town to visit this person, and we had to get a hotel that night. And there was most hotels these days, they don't have central heat and air for all these rooms. They've got those like baseboard air heater, air heater thingies. They're not air heaters, you get what I'm saying. And that air conditioning man, because we're there in like what August or something or September, September that time. And um, I I it's it's annoying. Like I hear it, but I'm good at tuning shit out. I've I've had to do it my whole life. You were like the grumpiest, you couldn't sleep because of that thing, and you you I think you did turn it off, right? Because you couldn't sleep without I turned my phone on to sleep music and put it right by my head. That's right, because we we were gonna be hot. It was the middle of we like we couldn't just turn it off without getting really hot in the room. But I just that was I knew that about you, but I would that's an example that sticks in my mind of being like you really can't just ignore that. No, I can hear your refrigerator right now, right? Well, and I can also I can hear this fan, I can I can hear stuff, but I just tune it out. And so where I I say I don't want to go off and not land the plane, but I feel like I could talk about a lot of childhood things that that came from. Where you might assume that I grew up in like a really loud household, but that's not true. It's quite the opposite. Um, my household was like too quiet, but for whatever reason, I learned really young to ignore my senses because I felt uncomfortable. I don't like overly stimulating light, I don't like loud noises. I'm I I don't I jokingly claim the tism, but I don't know that I haven't been diagnosed, I don't think that's something to be made fun of, but I have some of those attributes where I just am easily overstimulated, so I ignore things. I also had asthma when I was young, like couldn't breathe, and I had to just sort of sit there and be like, Welp. And so I'm kind of good in that regard at dealing with physical pain and physical discomfort because I can leave my body, I'm not ever really in it. But then another interesting thing talking about nature versus nurture, where the nature may be like my Libra, my type five, my Vata, my whatever, but I I was recently doing some things, writing some notes down, and this was more of like about people who have had childhood trauma, and I liked this quote that this person said that people like myself who have a shared experience are actually we can end up more in our head because when you learn to deal with narcissistic people, it becomes this chess game. You're always thinking, you're having to feel the room, to feel if you're safe, you're having to, you know, whatever. So rather than be grounded in our bodies to fully feel how exhausting people really are, and it leads to problems later in life in certain relationships because you're not able to clock how uncomfortable people make you feel because you're not in your body as as much as as you should be. Um, so I found that interesting. And on top of that, like we've talked about how you're kind of stuck in your bottom three chakras and you have trouble going in the top ones, and I am the opposite. Like I have trouble with my root and with safety and security and all that, and I'm just all in the crown. Like I'll tell you about the aliens because all I've ever done is been up there. Like yeah, I yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

I tried so hard to do things like astral project and meditation's difficult for me, and you know, just traveling anywhere is really hard for me where I have to have a little bit of a substance to bring myself kind of out of my body, yeah. Um, to have any kind of experience like that. It's just complete opposite for me. Yeah. Um, what was the unhinged story that you for you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Um the also, this is actually cute. I don't think it's unhinged, but I I meant to do my research on this, so I'm I'm probably gonna name the wrong movie. But I feel like it's this movie called Rough Night with Scarlett Johansson. If anybody's seen it, it's like it also came out around the time of Girls' Trip, the one with Tiffany Haddish. So the two movies are easily confused, but they're totally different. The point is, all these friends are are partying and they're on this trip, and I'm pretty sure it's Scarlett Johansson's character in that movie, but she says something about like what's next on their list or what they need to do, and the other characters are like, You you made an itinerary for a bridal shower or for a like whatever it is, and she's like, Yeah. And that it's actually a major joke of the movie to the point that years ago, before I know you when I'm watching this, I'm like, who would actually do that? And the answer is you.

SPEAKER_00 54:56

Hello, I would like to introduce myself.

SPEAKER_01 54:59

Yes. So when we went to Salem, I still have the note. I hope you never delete it. It's like a shared note between us, but you throughout the day you were just adding stuff, and you just kept updating this note about you had it down time-stamped, like what we were gonna do from the time we landed, then we were gonna go get food at Luigi's Pizzeria, and then we were gonna go get our rental car, or no, that was before that, and then we were gonna go back to the hotel and rest. You even had like a rest time at the hotel, but not knowing we were gonna be stuck at like goddamn CarMax forever or whatever it was, not Car Max, anyway, whatever. And then, yeah, and then like we dinner at the hotel, and then the next day it was this. It was actually very helpful, which is why I like it's so laughable to me because I could never, but it was so helpful. So I was just like, I'd really said it in like any posts I made that said this trip wouldn't have happened without you or wouldn't have been what it was. Um, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:48

I have not only that itinerary on my phone, I have my upcoming Denver itinerary.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

I bet. Because do you have links to restaurant menus?

SPEAKER_00 55:57

I don't have that. I'm surprised honestly, because then I started focusing on my itinerary for itinerary for Costa Rica and those absolutely are linked. I knew it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

That's fair though. You're going to another country, so it's a little bit more Yeah, it's different than navigating Denver. You know, but I still even if that's like unhinged, it's not really unhinged. Um didn't you do something really weird for like Thanksgiving to time cooking cr what did you do? I wasn't there, I just know the story.

SPEAKER_00 56:29

Okay. Alright. Um one time I was hosting Thanksgiving, and let me give a preface. I don't think she'll listen, but let me just say if you're listening, I'm sorry, this is not a dig, don't take it personal, it just is what it is. My mother and grandmother would get so frantically anxious making the food that it was like kind of made it a little bit miserable as a child in the house where it was just like very on edge, very oh my god, everybody's coming over, like vacuum the ceiling, you know. That's that generation, but yeah, yeah. And so like I I have a double oven, I'm blessed. My mom did not, my grandmother did not, so I I get it, okay. But for Thanksgiving, what I did was I printed out all of the recipes. That's pretty standard. A lot of people do that, and then I made like little flash cards that had like the title of the dish, what temperature it needed to be baked at, and for how long, so that I could then sit and do math basically. If dinner is at six, that means this dish needs, and I write it down, then the if for it to be done at six, it needs to go in the oven at this time, and then this one at this time and this time, right? And these these four dishes can go in the same oven, these at this temperature, these four dishes can go in the other oven at this temperature, right? Because obviously you can't you can't mess that up, right? You can't if something bakes at 350, you can't put it in there at 425. I mean you can't just not gonna be right. And then on top of that, then I get out said casserole dishes that I'm going to put the food in to make sure that it all I'm like playing Tetris in the oven. How is it gonna lay out? You know what I mean? Yeah, because nobody wants a fucking cold ass turkey because you had to take it out to then bake the sweet potato casserole. Yeah. You know, and that's what dries it out. That's what No. No. Food is too important. Thanksgiving is my favorite meal of the year, let me just say food is too important to make it gross like that. Like your gravy is gonna be all gelatinous and coomby. The fuck out of here. No, not in my house, not in your house. My food that statement is true. The food will be hot, it will be thoroughly cooked all of the way, and it will be delicious and overly salty.

SPEAKER_01 59:08

Just saying. She is a good cook. Fuck yeah, I am. So again, I I have to still say unhinged is a loose term. I don't think that's unhinged. It's again, I'm gonna say Libra me.

unknown 59:18

Could never.

SPEAKER_01 59:19

Would never. Just like, nope, I'll starve to death before I do that.

SPEAKER_00 59:24

It's so funny though, you know, I think that you're more Libra than I am, Virgo, sometimes. Um, you know, I I pulled up my chart and we can go through this. We'll go through it real quick and then we'll kind of go through your chart because I know that our time is getting a little bit close, but I wanted to know why I am not more like people like my sister? Why am I not a neat freak with a place for everything and can't the people that say I can't go to bed with dishes in the sink, I'm like sound asleep. I very much can. Yeah, I could give a fuck. I don't care. Sure. I'm probably sleeping the bathtub right now. That's how unhinged I am. But okay, so I like I said, I am a Virgo sun, I am a Scorpio moon, and I am a Taurus rising. And so I from what I understand, it's my Taurus rising and my Scorpio moon that really counteracts my Virgo sun. So Taurus rising people are comfort and pleasure seekers first. They create cozy lived-in spaces and genuinely do not care about tidiness over comfort. And that's 100% me. If I've had a really hard day and I'm exhausted, I'm gonna go sit on the couch. I'm not gonna go clean, even though I probably need to. My comfort definitely comes first. Yeah, my environment needs to feel good, not necessarily look good. I mean, I do care about the aesthetic of my house, but like, you know, my den is very Zen den, you know. It's my sanctuary. It also has piles of my dog hair like floating. It is what it's part of the decoration.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:07

Yeah. It's because the bones are there. Like you are a great decorator. All the design is there. It's just that, yeah, okay, there might be an unfolded blanket on the couch and that doesn't bother you and it shouldn't. That's so kind of you.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

Not only is the blanket unfolded on the couch, all the blankets in the blanket basket are also unfolded. But you have a blanket basket. And the blankets in the laundry room haven't been washed in months. Um, but then I guess my Scorpio moon also comes in because I begin to feel everything deeply. Um and so if I'm processing intense feelings and emotions from the day, if I've had a rough day or I'm going through something, like I don't have the bandwidth for dishes or laundry. Yeah. Like laundry is my Achilles heel every time. Uh oh, whatever. But that makes sense that both of those things are really like Virgo, that's cute bye, you know. Yeah. So anyway, what about yours? I know that, you know, like I said, I feel like you're more Libra for sure, but well, and I wanna so I'm trying to remember the stereotypes.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:13

What's flirty? Right. I was gonna say there are some in true Libra fashion. Let me explain and let me like tell you about my specific no, um, so anyone who's pretty close to me knows I can be very flirty. However, um, due to whatever's going on in my chart, but even lived experiences. Like, for example, as a lesbian, I very and as a woman who's lived in the world as a woman, I care not to make other women uncomfortable. Very much so. So that's my first thing. So I tend to not be, you're never gonna catch me like in the bar walking up and being like, Sup, you know, because I wanted that so bad. You wanted to see that happen to me at Sue Ellen's.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:54

You didn't want me to go do it. True. I I did. I wanted because I expected the lesbian bar to mimic a gay bar just with women, could not be further from the truth.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:04

And so some lesbians will say that women are different in that regard. You have the the broish lesbians and the hey mama's lesbians, and like you have those lesbians, but you saw in it's also probably partially my energy, but like some people have told me like I don't seem approachable, but at the same time, men have always overstepped that boundary. Men love to approach me, but like women don't like to approach me for some reason or another. It could be due to like my energy or my like posture or whatever it is. So yeah, I wasn't approached once when we were at the gay bar.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:36

Um, and it's it's fine, but anyway, so I'm not I'm I'm flirty, you know. You know that when you get to know me, and like especially through like text, I'm like real brave. And so it's like I can be flirty, but it's only when I know that it's welcomed or whatever. Sure. Um, so but apparently what I've read is that my 12th house is doing most of the heavy lifting, and so what that means is that um my my moon and my Mars are hidden in the 12th house. Here's the thing, you gotta forgive me. I had to take notes on this because I don't I'm I'm still learning a lot about this. Deeper Yeah, like I d I'm not very well versed in the houses and like what they mean exactly. So um the but the 12th house is the one of solitude and the unconscious and the retreat. So it's sometimes called the house of self-undoing. Um, and so it's where energy turns inward and becomes invisible to others, and that very much describes me. I'm I'm like a typical human being where I want to be noticed and admired sometimes, but I also am like, don't look at me. Like, don't don't notice me, don't talk to me, don't you know it's it's so I understand I'm ending m enigmatic. No, well, not perceived. I don't like I'm introverted, so especially even when it's not romantic, I'm like, I tell this story about this person who works at my job that's very fucking cheery every morning and has to have the same robotic conversation with me every day. Good morning, how are you doing? That's great, have a good day. We don't have to do this. Can we not just do a quick smile and nod in the hallway? Yeah, you know, so anyway, I don't I don't always like to be noticed. And it that also comes from some trauma, probably. Like, are they why are they looking at me? Is there something wrong with my face? Like, it's that shit. So anyway, um, but apparently, so my emotional my moon is a cancer as a refresher or anyone who doesn't know that. So um my drive and desire, my Mars also lives there, and a huge portion of who I am doesn't project outward. Like, people don't feel me coming into a room the way a typical Libra does. And I was like rude because I I was jokingly saying to you that I can I want to be like a vampire. I want to be felt when I come into the room. Like, sure, notice me, but don't talk to me. A chill up the back of your neck. Yes, like ominous presence. Death has arrived. The devil of sulfur. Speak of the devil and she shall appear. Like, that's definitely the vibe. I no, I'm kidding. I I it definitely. Definitely depends on what my energy is like that day and my experience. Sometimes when I'm feeling confident and very bright, shining, I am noticed and approached and whatever. Um, you said that when you met me. No, it wasn't romantic, but like when we were in our old Reiki group, I didn't think about it this way, but you said you you thought I was um how do I say it? Your perception of me was that I was like this main character energy. Everybody felt safe, everybody wanted to come talk to me. I seemed so lively and appropriate. And I was like, who are you talking about? You I know, but at the time I didn't think of it that way. I was just like, Well, these people know me, so they come ask me how I'm doing. I'm like, I don't I don't know. Very yappy, yeah. So, like, but if I walk into a room with strangers and that many people came up to me, I would be like, That's like the first time I met you.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:46

I was like, Am I pissing you off that I'm giving you money for a terror reading? I'm so sorry. I thought this is what you wanted. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

That was just a this is a story for another day. Yes, it is. Anyway, um, so my cancer rising seals it apparently. Um, cancer is one of the most introverted rising signs possible. My rising is also cancer and not only my moon. So a Libra rising would walk in scanning for connection and hey, like I think about like the fawns, right? But cancer rising walks in scanning for safety, and I think that perfectly ties into even childhood trauma. So it's like nature and nurture for me in this regard. Totally. I need to feel safe before you get a certain version of me. I even read a thing the other day on like one of those like word porn Instagram pages. I like that page, but it says, if you've never met the soft version of me, I've never met the safe version of you. And nothing is truer. Anyone who knows like how fuzzy I really can be and like my little heart of gold, I'll describe my heart as black so quick, just so you stay away from me. But people who know me know the truth. But not everybody gets that because they don't deserve it. And sometimes people abuse it, so no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:53

I mean, I guess that makes sense. That makes sense for your for your personality, for your big three, which I think is why it's so important. Yeah. I mean, you can you can learn your son sign, that's fine. It's gonna tell you a lot about your own. It tells you a lot, but not everything. But not everything. You gotta look up your big three at least.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:09

And yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:10

For anybody that's uh curious how you do that, so go to this is not a plug. Yeah, please, but sponsor us if you will. Absolutely, please do. Uh, cafeastrology.com is where I go. Wonderful. The fact that it's free amazes me. And please never change that. Absolutely. Uh, I mean, in order to know your rising sign, you have to know your time of birth. So sneaky, ask your mom.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:33

I can't wait to talk about that. I'm sorry. But real quick, let's finish up the shout-out. Yeah, go to cafeastrology.com. You can find out so much. More than just birth charts. There's there's compatibility stuff for like you and your person, friendships, whatever. It's all free. Um, but yeah, you should read your whole chart. It's gonna be long, but you will feel so validated and you're gonna learn a lot about yourself if you if you have trouble with introspection or understanding why you tick the way you do. Yeah, it's like I'm not an actual I'm not an ass, a perfectionist asshole. I'm just a Virgo.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

What do you want from me? It's in my chart. Um, but I want to talk about the time people were born, because I just find it funny. There's so many people that are like, I don't know what time I was born, and I'm like, what? I have a hard time with that, but then I have to remember I was born at a very specific time that's hard to forget, and even t very much ties into like my gothy personality. So I kind of forget that other people were born at like 2.03 p.m. and why would they remember that? Yeah. So when people say that, I just I think it's funny. Um, to the point where it's turned into memes. Like someone texts their mom, hey mom, what time is I what time was I born? And the mom's like, Nope, stop talking to her. I mean because it's definitely this witchy chick that's trying to figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:43

I I love reading people's charts. When my niece was born, oh like minutes, I looked it up and I was like, Okay, here's where we are. We are I she's an Aries son. I I think a cancer moon and a Virgo rising.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:58

I think that's great. As much as people think this is woo-woo, I wish that in 2007 this had been available to me to read about my own child and better prepare me to be a a parent to her and her emotions and not let uh her ways trigger me because I had some unhealed shit. Like that's another thing to unpack at some other time. But I'm saying I wish I I love that you look that up for your niece, and I would do it for my daughter back in time if I could hop in the DeLorean, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:25

Yeah. You know, that's an interesting segue into our second uh question. Uh our love letters. Love letters to Libras. Yeah, that's gonna stick. Um, dear podcast. I've been seeing somebody for two months, and I asked for their birth time so that I could do a full chart reading, and they said they didn't know what it was, and they honestly didn't really believe in astrology. I know that this shouldn't be a deal breaker, but I also feel like I can't fully know who they are without it. Am I being insane or is this valid? Dump them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:03

You don't believe in astrology? I'm kidding. Let me retract. That was for a joke. Look, I'm gonna be a Libra. And say, I think it's fair when people think this is all just bullshit, but they're often the people who have never really looked into it. So I don't know, it depends how serious you are about this person, but I still I don't think you're being what was their question? Am I being unreasonable or what did they say? Um Am I being insane? No. Um especially now in 2026, it's not that weird to want to understand someone's chart.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:38

Not as weird as people make it out to seem. So if this person just doesn't know what time they were born, as we just discussed, that's kind of normal. But if they reject the whole idea, then maybe you guys aren't that compatible. Maybe if it's important to you, that probably is not gonna work. But I don't think you're being insane. Okay, here's my answer.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:55

Okay, ready? One, you should know his birthday. Okay. Knowing his birthday is not a big deal. So you can at least get his son sign. Throw it into some sneaky conversation. Where were you born? Like, you know, and on that website, Cash is a good one. You also need to know the place they were born. You can check the box that you don't know the exact time, but you can learn their moon sign that way. That'll tell you a lot about how they show up emotionally. Well, I was just gonna say, and like, you know, unfortunately, they don't put your time of birth on your birth certificate. Call his mother. Call his mom. That's the crazy Virgo. And just be like, oh my god. He just got into a car wreck. Yeah. I need to know, like, do you happen to know his blood type? And also, in order to save his life, I have to know what time he was born. Like stat, what time was it? Deborah, what time was it?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:55

What was the name of his childhood pet and the street you guys lived on?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:58

And the I'm just there are ways to find out these things. If his mother, let's say that they're no contact, there's gotta be somebody on his Facebook that you can ask. Just write them. Hey, I'm putting together a fun little slideshow, wouldn't you know? A scrapbook. I'm making a scrapbook for Johnny here. And I just I'm just wondering what time what time did he emerge in this on this planet? Um I think more than anything, not knowing I don't know. It's kind of like you said about um knowing your own child. I think that if you can see if you can get a glimpse into how people show up in the you know, in anger or in just an emotional way, it can it can kind of um save you from being surprised.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:53

Yeah, and you also won't people should be held accountable for their actions, but you're gonna maybe gonna understand why your teenager is like I don't know, so triggered by not being seen or whatever. Um that's every teenager, but you I you get what I'm saying. Um before I forget, I was also gonna say the r you can check that box that says you don't know what time you or the person was born. And either Cafe Astrology will either tell you this, but if not, I'm gonna tell you. Here's the thing the moon moves into a new sign every what two days or so. Uh-huh. So a lot of times you can still get a person's full chart even if you don't know the time they were born. The only tricky thing is if the if the moon moved sometime that day. And I'm a great example of that. So like I was born at midnight, and I put I misunderstood, and so I basically said I was born at midnight the day before. So for the longest time I thought my rising was uh was or no, I thought my moon sign was Gemini. And it's kind of funny that I actually maybe being on that cusp, there were some attributes of that that I really identified with, so I had no idea until later I realized, oh nope, it's the moon moved into cancer like right before I was born. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:02

So yeah, I mean it'll tell you, um, it'll give you this or this if that's the case. The birth chart that I looked up earlier today, uh huh, it was like nope, this is what it was. Yeah. Okay, so cafe astrology will tell you. Yeah, it'll tell you. Um, I think just my last piece of advice is why doesn't he believe in astrology? Yeah, that's kind of the red flag for me, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:25

Yeah, it's sort of I mean, this is maybe not related, but in my brain it is. It's like when men say they don't like cats. Big red flag. Maybe animals in general, but especially cats, because there's a psychology behind that. Cats are very independent, they don't need you, they half the time don't like you, and they have really strong boundaries. So when people don't like cats, it's kind of a red flag. Yeah. I can see that. I can see that. No, but really, it's why doesn't he believe in astrology?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:49

Yeah, do you not like knowing about yourself? Speaking of knowing yourself, so I didn't get to talk about your unhinged Libra moment, and I'll make this pretty quick because I know that we're kind of running out of time. Are there not so many? There are so many, but this is my favorite one, okay. Uh is this my favorite one? So last time we talked about like the impulse text in the morning, like, hey, I think I'm gonna go back to school. Okay, cool, let's think about it. No, I already enrolled, like, yes, but you'll have to remind me what was going on, but I remember I had texted you one day and I was like, hello, or I'd sent you some ticks. I didn't answer you quick enough. You yeah, you weren't responding to me, and I'm like, what are you doing? And you're like, I can't talk right now. I'm trying to help the FBI figure out who the zodiac killer is.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:42

Like I didn't go that way, but that is a funnier way.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:45

You were so serious though. Like, you were you were digging deep.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:51

You were you were blues clues in it. Look, I I think in fairness, I actually know exactly what happened. I remember now that Netflix documentary. No, uh you watched it before I did, actually. But it was about these um people who unfort they knew Arthur Lee Allen, who was one of the many suspects of being the zodiac killer. Um, so we watched that documentary, and he had taught, he actually was very well uh versed or whatever in creating ciphers. And I'm like, you know, my ears perk up. I'm like, I what is that a type 5 thing or a Libra thing? Just the wanting to know, know for the sake of knowing. Yeah, I'm very curious for no reason at all. I will go learn something new because I'm bored. So that's what I did. I learned how to decipher ciphers and even create them. So I I really tried to like download some of this fool's ciphers, and I was like, what if I? It's like that thing that's like every time I try a new hobby, I think to myself, what if I just find out that I'm this prodigy and I never knew? And not only am I significant wor significantly worse than all the other people, but like, or no, it's like not only am I not, but I'm worse. So same thing. I just thought, what if I could see a pattern in these ciphers? That would be cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:05

I wish that that was my only example. Actually, no, I don't. I love this about you, but I'm looking right now at your bookshelf and I'm not seeing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:13

What?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:13

Um, but I'm pretty sure somewhere over there is uh like what is it, astrophysics for dummies?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:19

No. Neil deGrasse Tyson. I love that man. He wrote Astrophysics for People in a Hurry, which describes. Yeah, she was like, I'ma figure this out.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:27

Like she was so I mean, in one kind of like the 50 squats in one night, like we are going to fully understand uh quantum physics by tomorrow at noon. Like, don't talk to me. I'm busy. Like I got a big day, guys. Yeah, and uh same thing. She was like, I'm gonna understand and completely know uh I don't even know the right terminology for this. Sacred geometry.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:56

Oh yeah, yeah, I did that too.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:58

Yeah, we I mean full-blown studied, studied this shit. I was gonna teach a class on it. I was really excited. Yeah. It never came to fruition. Just just examples like that of what the fuck are we doing?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:12

I you know, it sounds very bragging. Did you make your own alphabet? There's a story behind that though. The short answer is yes. Yeah, I did. I wrote my own alphabet. I still have it. I did letters, or I mean, uh, yeah, letters obviously numbers as well. But in my mind, I was kind of joking, but it's so funny. This was sort of like premonitory. Is that a word? This was before the last election, I'm just gonna say. But I jokingly told you if the government is ever like goes to shit and we need a secret way to communicate, I got you. I just wrote an alphabet, and here's the key. Then we're gonna cipher it. Like, that was when I was kind of delving into that. I was like, I'm gonna write my own symbols, and they're not gonna figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:54

And I'm gonna scramble the bitch, and unless you're gonna be able to communicate with me, but no one else is gonna be able to figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:59

Well, that was the idea. I would secretly leave you guys like the key and the key word, and like I would have to beforehand teach you guys how to decipher, of course. But oh, okay. But yeah, I I I did, I wrote an alphabet. Yeah, she sure did. That's I think sorry, my office mate at the time. Shout out Hank if you're ever listening to this. But Hank was like, what are you just like Samwit Wiki talking about the kid from Transformers 2 when Shia LaBeouf's like when he's all going nuts and writing symbols everywhere? That was really what was happening. I couldn't stop. I was just writing symbols. It was it was interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:35

You were like, see, and I'm like, you're like Emmett from Lego movie, like I see everything. I yeah. Well, I think that that gives a pretty good indication of who you are, and maybe a little of an indication of who I am, do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:48

Yes, and I don't know, something I read about maybe type fives or something that I think you would agree with is that I might be kind of just off the wall sometimes. Like maybe I have a lot of useless information in my mind, but you will never run out of things to talk about with me. And that is true. We've known each other for like four years, and we still just be yapping. We just be yapping. You've become more of a yapper in my orbit, and I'm okay. That's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:12

Well, thanks guys for listening to our yapping. What are we gonna do next week? Next time, we're gonna do something a little lighter and talk about religious trauma.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:21

Just dark at them.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:23

Um, no, I think it's important, you know, we've talked about kind of our spirituality. Obviously, we're sitting here talking about um astrology. How did two young gals from the panhandle of Texas end up in the kind of world that we resard in Rosard? Rosard.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:40

And I think it's actually quite easy to end up this way.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:44

I think it's a good, it's an interesting story. So we're gonna kind of touch on that. And um, you know, I know that a lot of people are quote unquote waking up, and so some people might resonate.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:55

Yeah, it's like I you know, we we in the on the old podcast we did an episode similar to this, and you said before that we've gone back and listened to some of our slightly older stuff, and there are still some things that maybe we didn't we weren't as gentle with or whatever. Maybe not gentle. I don't think religion needs a gentle hand, it's had enough of one, but I think that um a lot of our wounds came out in that, and so, anyways, maybe we can still humorously talk about our experiences and but also be honest and honor our truths about what our experiences were like growing up in the Bible belt in these overly religious homes and things.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:30

It's gonna be a good time.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:31

Yeah. So fun time, guys. If if you've ever been personally victimized by Regina George and Regina George's Christianity in this regard, stay tuned for next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:43

Where can people send in questions to you for our podcast?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:48

That's a wonderful question. Um, I'm gonna just say your Instagram. I guess my Instagram. The Instagram is actually named was named after the old podcast, so people could find us. So it's but my Instagram is the same. It's one underscore October underscore midnight. That's easy to remember because if you were listening to me in this episode, I was born at midnight. So it's literally just I was born on one October midnight. There's a lot of things. That's how you remember it.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:10

That's how I remember it.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:11

Message me with questions because I'm such a great advice giver. Yeah, everybody we can solve your problems really quick.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:19

Can't you tell? Yeah, yeah, really quick. So signing off for Dark Moon Full Moon. I'm Lauren. I'm Lindsay. And we'll catch you next time. Bye.