5. He Was Living His Dream, I Was Falling Apart: The Same 5 Months, Two Different Realities (Part 4)

This is Part 4 of our completely unfiltered love story, our most chaotic & messy episode yet, recorded from our room in Vietnam (it's 42°C outside, we're melting in AC, send help).

If you missed the previous parts:
Part 1: Met in high school 2009, dated ONE WEEK, didn't speak for 12 YEARS
Part 2: Reconnected 2020, 9 days talking nonstop, Croatia trip, moved in after 3 weeks
Part 3: Found the product, launched Magnetic Couples Bracelets in 17 days, hit $10k/month by month 3

NOW WHAT HAPPENED:

Spoiler: While our business was booming and Instagram looked perfect, I was crying in the bathroom 5 times a day and Tomash was like "life is amazing, what's for dinner?" Same 5 months. Same apartment. Same relationship. Completely different fucking realities. 😂

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT:

✨ Tomash's Perspective: Living His Best Life - "I was with my dream woman, building my passion, living in the present moment with zero expectations" (must be nice, babe)
✨ Martina's Perspective: Emotional Rollercoaster  - Why I started crying 5 times a day out of NOWHERE in August 2020 and decided it was definitely his fault
✨ The Contrast Is WILD - He remembers: "Everything was perfect, best time of my life." I remember: "I was convinced we'd break up and I'd end up in a psychiatric hospital like my dad."
✨ What Was Really Happening - How Tomash became the first safe person in my life, and my body was like "OH COOL, TIME TO FEEL ALL THE EMOTIONS YOU'VE BEEN SUPPRESSING FOR 28 YEARS"
✨ The Projection Olympics - How I micro-surveilled our relationship like a detective
✨ Good Girl Gone Feral - Suppressing anger my whole life because "good girls don't get emotional" until I met Tomash and it all came POURING out (sorry, babe)
✨ The Dad Fear - Why I was terrified I'd inherit my father's mental illness and end up medicated and unrecognizable
✨ Communication Disasters - The great "shift arrow incident" (yes, we fought about an Instagram arrow), jokes that were actually mean, and me wanting to hurt him back every time I felt hurt
✨ Our Most Meta Moment - We literally DEBATE how to do this podcast WHILE RECORDING IT (Tomash: "Can you be more practical?" Me: "I DON'T OPERATE THAT WAY, BABY")
✨ What Saved Us - Moving to Bali, bio-resonance therapy (look it up), me reading spiritual books, and slowly learning that unconditional love means not trying to control everything (still learning, tbh)
✨ The Real Dynamic - He's calm, present, handles emotions like a zen master. I feel EVERYTHING for EVERYONE and overthink my overthinking. Somehow we balance each other (or we're just insane, jury's still out)

THIS EPISODE IS FOR YOU IF:

• You've felt like shit when everything was going WELL
• You've blamed your partner for emotions that were actually yours
• You and your partner remember the same day like parallel universes
• You're building a business with your partner (beautiful chaos)
• You want the REAL story behind perfect Instagram posts

WHAT THIS EPISODE IS NOT:
❌ Polished (we forget what we're saying, I go to pee twice, it's a journey)
❌ Short (over an hour because I can't shut up)
❌ Instagram-worthy (this is the messy shit we DON'T post)
❌ Relationship advice (we're just figuring it out, don't take notes)

WHAT THIS EPISODE IS:

✅ Chaotically honest - The breakdown behind the breakthrough
✅ Two realities - Same story, completely different movies in our heads
✅ Real relationship vibes - Interrupting, disagreeing, forgetting our point, still loving each other
✅ Behind "success" - It's not all $10k months and sunsets
✅ Permission to be messy - Relationships are improv theater where nobody knows their lines

ABOUT US:

I'm Martina (33, overthinker, feels everything, talks in philosophical clouds, swears when excited). He's Tomash (35, lives in the NOW, wants bullet points, calm AF, doesn't understand planning). We're the couple behind Magnetic Couples Bracelets . We live in Vietnam. Together 24/7 for 6 years, haven't murdered each other yet. Built a 6-figure business in 17 days while I had daily meltdowns. We remember the same events like different lives. English is our second language. I overshare like it's my job (it is now). Tomash still isn't sure if you actually want to hear from him (let him know, he's adorably insecure 😂). Our dog Buchta snores louder than we talk.

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Magnetic Couples Bracelets: https://www.magneticcouplesbracelets.com/

LET'S CONNECT:

📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/martinarajcan/

Have a beautiful day or night, wherever you are. We love you. This episode is a mess. We're a mess. Life is a mess. That's the point. 💕

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello.

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Hello.

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Hello. I love your smile. Welcome to another episode. And this will probably 99% will be the fifth one, which means that our my podcast, What is Life, is in top 10% of the podcast. Because most of the podcasts finish at the third episode. So I actually made sure I have four, and only then I will start talking about it on socials and posting about it and somehow like you know marketing it. So would you like to congratulate me and cheer me on?

SPEAKER_01 0:40

I congratulate you and I cheer you on. On, on, on.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

Thank you. You're actually a big part of it. Because you keep you keep pushing.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Like you keep saying, let's record next one. When are we recording next one?

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Yeah, it's nice break from a day and just you know relaxation. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Why not? Yeah, yeah. I love that you see it that way.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Okay. So you wanted to talk about your emotions that you had when we started doing business together.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

I wanted to talk about the other, the darker side of what was going on. Because in the last episode we spoke about the incredible power of aligned action when shit just all aligns and happens like this, right? And in today's episode, we're going to tell you that you are going to tell. I'm going to tell you that I'm gonna say something else. Yes, we both have different worlds we live in and different relationship experiences and everything. And I love that about us. I think it really adds uh really nice. It's like two different podcasts being put together. So yeah, in today's episode we will continue and we're going to tell you the other side of what was happening while our business was being born and booming. But it's not all butterflies and unicorns, what you see uh online on Instagram and what people actually are willing to show. So we're going to practice my very first and most important value, which is truth and authenticity. And that's also why this uh podcast exists. So let's get into it.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

What do you have to talk about?

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Okay. So in the last episode, actually, you told me at the end that you would like to have more space.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Yeah, but you can start. So you can because like this part about those emotions you were having, like maybe I can say some how I was dealing with that or like whatever, but it's like mostly it's about you. So it was like you had the hard time. Like for me, like I had completely different experience about those six months, and I will I will say after. Or I can start if you want. Okay, I'm starting. So go. So for me, those six months, they were actually really amazing. Because, first of all, I started to date and live with I don't know how to say it, I would say my dream woman, or like somebody who I really wanted to be with for a long time, and I really felt really, really, really amazing about us and about you. And it's just I don't know, like you were kind of my like when you have a celebrity crash, but you are not a celebrity. I am like I kind of had the crush on you since ever. And after high school, I didn't expect that we ever gonna be together or something, you know. So it was for me like it was really like a honeymoon phase for me. Like I was really happy, I was it was really amazing for me, and at the same time, like very soon we connected it with creating business, which is my passion. It's like something I really, really, really enjoy and love to do. Yeah, but the biggest thing that happened at that point, I think because I was in that honeymoon phase, and because I was so excited about just life and about just being and about just just like how it all like set up, like how my life was, that I was building a business and suddenly everything you want to do. I was with the woman of my dreams, you know. Yes, so I was so happy that I kind of was really living in the present moment, and I really didn't want anything else, and I didn't care about anything else because I felt like I have everything I want or need or like whatever. Yes, so this was like a huge difference for me because and I actually realized it a couple years later because before when I tried to do or when I was creating some businesses or when I was doing something, most of the reasons why I was doing that was because I wanted to make money and I wanted to go to warm weather, and I wanted to have time to be like more free and to just like you know fuck around and do nothing, not really nothing, but like you know, like do hobbies and do sports and do just explore the world and just experience things, you know. That was my motivation. It was never about that I actually enjoyed, even though I like to create the businesses, but there was always something that I I just had to like push myself into it, and and when those parts where things don't go the way that you want arrives, like that's when it starts to be or started to be in the past, like more challenging, and so and and again my motivation was always money, you know, before, before, yes, and that's what changed like that time, like in 2020 when we started creating this together, because suddenly I was just there, I just loved to work with you on something. I love that we are together, I love that I am with you, and just just it was just incredible experience, you know. So for me, I really had an amazing time, and and I will always think about it as something incredible. And then, since I was so much in that present moment, into the creating, into being with you, into just being together and having a great time together, like I had no expectations about the business. I didn't do it for money at all because honestly, I didn't care. Like, just the present moment where I had you, we were together and we were creating something together was more than enough for me. And that's all I wanted. And then, so unexpectedly, at least for me, like the business started to create money, like it was successful, like so fast, mind fuck, it was just like just wow for me. Like, I really didn't expect that after two or three months we could go somewhere else because it already made I don't know, like a lot, you know. I mean, enough, not a lot, but like enough. So, so that was my experience of those six months uh back home, or five months or something before we left for Bali. I really can only say positive things about that because it was really incredible. And and then I remember that I actually like when I realized at some point that okay, wow, well, this is making actually money. At that point, I guess like you started to say that we can go now somewhere, we can leave Slovakia, we can and then we had some choices, and we chose that we could go to Bali.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

And I remember that at that point, like I was it was a lockdown, so we had like limited choices. We had Kostarika Bali.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Yeah, but we uh it I think that there was a little bit of fear because of we didn't know what's gonna happen in the world and how it's gonna actually be those countries. Okay, well, but I mean I don't know. You say you had no fear, but maybe that time was like really challenging. Like like any state could go to total lockdown, you know, any any country, any any like they could shut off the the airports, and like it was really unlike like the that time was not really for me. It was not a big deal.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

It was not a big deal because I experienced the biggest lockdown in Dubai already, so I knew what to experience.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

Yes, but you ex you experienced it in Dubai where you already stayed for five years or whatever, so you know everything, you know everybody, but but we would go to completely new country where we would know nobody, nothing.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

It was for me I don't know. I don't think for me these are the things that are easy for me. I was fine.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

That's number one jumping to the speech. Okay. Okay. So thank you.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

I have only two passes.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

So yeah, but but that was not even the biggest concern for me. But I remember that my biggest concern at that time was that I felt like that the business is really new and to just go somewhere when where we when when we don't know like whether it's gonna actually survive or make enough money for us and so on, like at that point to already leave after let's say two months of having profit, like we would already go, and already we needed to pay basically most of those money that we made for the flights and for the visa and for all the all the things that you needed at the time to be able to travel. So so for me it was like I would wait honestly.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Like I wasn't you would have waited back then.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

Yes. So I remember that that was the only thing that started to be like for me a little bit challenging that we're gonna go, but it felt incredible to go, so yeah, in the end of the day, it it was easy.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

So you know there's this thing, can I say?

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Yeah, yeah, I think I'm finished. This is like this is my five months back home after we met until we l left in 10 minutes. Slovakia, probably less.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Yeah. Well, so did you know that the desire and fear are two emotions that are like two sides of the same coin? So can I tell you? You can tell you.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

You told me already like 15 times.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Yeah, so when something you really want is actually happening, there is this in the back of your head, this fear usually, which doesn't mean anything if you don't make it mean anything, right? You you can just have the fear and do what you want to do anyways, which is basically also what I'm learning to do these months. And I was doing it in my life very easily, but I don't know, the older I got, the more the fear started to control me, but not anymore. Not anymore. You know, so but I wanted to tell you that maybe because all your dreams were coming true, the fear was becoming coming online. Would you say that?

SPEAKER_01 11:23

No.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

So I'm going to now tell my part I look, I understand what you are saying, but I don't feel like I'm afraid of my dreams. It was literally that I was afraid if like we will have enough money to survive somewhere where we don't know literally anything. Like it's completely new country, like like there can be so many unexpected costs and things, you know, and we don't know like you know, like you know, we like then we will talk about the the the actual journey to Bali and you know, like Bali went actually to lockdown.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

Yeah, so this was your experience, it was very smooth, very I'm just here living life and I'm good and everything is alright and everybody much more than I'm good. Actually, I'm great and yeah. Well, there's a difference between us, and I think that's amazing when two people meet and they can actually balance each other because I think if you were like me, this intense ride wouldn't end up the way it did, and wouldn't develop and f and um unfold the way it did for us.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

Yeah, we don't know what would be would be, so let's say what was and what happened.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Yeah, but it's important to know I knew it from the beginning. You are such a calm presence in my life, you're so grounded, and you're so like, and whenever I ask you, baby, what are you thinking? you're like nothing. And I could never believe how is it possible? I guess I never met anyone who would have no thought and you were the first person, but I understand it's possible now. It happened to me maybe like for a minute in my 33 years, but I I needed you to be like that so that it works because for me, and I'm getting there, okay? This is the intro into my part. Because for me, when all of this started to happen, I met you, everything was fast forward, like 1000 times than normal other relationships usually develop, right? So after nine days or ten days, we went to Croatia. In Croatia, we decided we're gonna do business together. Then within a month, it was already we had first sale, everything was set up, then we start like it was so fast that I think all of this is just like a judgment for me of what happened. But I think maybe this was also part of that everything was happening so fast and everything was changing, my life was changing in front of my eyes without me able to somehow control it, even though in a good way. I started to maybe be a little bit overthinking. Yes, you're raising your hand, which doesn't mean you're jumping in my speech.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

No, it's just it's just funny. I mean, I just want to understand. You are saying that everything was happening so fast without you being able to control it. But actually, you're the one who took steps to start the business.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

And you're the one who had a little bit pushed me to start living together.

SPEAKER_02 14:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

So you are saying that there was nothing you could do, but you literally made it this fast, right? If it was up to me, like we would maybe move in together one or two months later.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Uh no, I am like this, I take fucking action.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Please finish.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

And uh so I just wanted to know, like, I just want to understand because for me it's like um how you say it, opposite what you are saying, that it like you couldn't do anything, but actually I feel like that you were the one who was like making it happen like this.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

So is the paradox, even though we do make or I do take action, it still comes with a package of feelings. The action itself is not hard for me. It's just that action is like, yeah, let's build a website. But then as you build it, as you're building it, you start to have feelings or like, yeah, let's move in. Oh my god, I love this apartment. Yeah, I I kind of like take action based on excitement, but then it has consequences in my head and my my body, and I have emotions. So it's like a delayed boomerang reaction in my body that it's almost like I'm high when I take action, and then I'm like, oh you know, sometimes I like I don't think that much about what I say or what I do.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Yeah, you don't.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

No, I don't. I'm just really just whatever, fuck it, let's do it. And then after I'm like, oh wait, this makes me feel actually this was not really, yeah. So that's my trial-error living that I also speak about in my first episode and about my story. So it it comes with the like a always backpack of emotions that come later after the action. It's almost this bulldozing through life, just going, going, going, and then the moment I realize what I did is like, ooh. So this is, I think, maybe what was happening on one level. Everything has levels. So this was one of the levels, I think. And second level was that in um August, which was like literally the second month of us dating, at the end, I remember it was around like 27th uh August. I started to have emotional sensitivities and like five times, like when a girl is PMSing and everything is end of the world. I had that like five times per day. Out of nowhere. I knew I'm an emotional person. Anything, mostly you, but mostly anything. I think mostly you, actually.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Yeah, I mean my new name is anything.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Like relationships has had always been the source of my biggest pain and suffering, let's say, if I let it go that far. Everything else was manageable for me. But in the relationships, my emotions came out the most intense way. And with you, when I met you, and this is what I also spoke about already in the first attempt to record this podcast, but we actually stopped recording because it was too hot and there was a lot of bikes, and it was just not a good setup. So this is a second attempt of the fifth episode recording. And so there I also said that you first time in my life were the safe place for me. I said, like then I'm gonna say it again. You were raised by a mother so unconditionally loving and accepting that the core Tomash, and I haven't met such a pure being in my life, really, before yours and I couldn't name this before. I couldn't name it only later with evolution we are able to now name these things. So also the podcast is happening now because we can now talk about it as our stories. So you were such a safety pole for me that somehow you allowed me, or you basically just like allowed me to relax on some level, and the emotions would come to the surface. It's almost like when you run around like headless chicken the whole life, and then you do this, and you make yourself busy and you overwork yourself, and you just do this, and yet you don't want to feel anything, and then suddenly, boom, I met you. You were just really there. Your presence was the catalyst or ignition for me to feel my feelings. There's no other way for me to say it. Maybe it's too much in the air, maybe it's too ungrounded, maybe it's too un not understandable, but it doesn't matter because it's not only about words what we're doing here. Yeah, you allowed me to feel things, and I think all the anger and rage from my life that I was suppressing because good girl shouldn't be emotional, I have to play it cool, just like on our first date, remember?

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Those were really nice times.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Yeah, well, yeah. But inside something was happening, and then after those few months, two months, it started to come to the surface, and I want to connect it also to something that I didn't connect it before with. And of course, this was all about a change of environment. Me leaving Dubai, suddenly being with you, being being at home, having my friends elsewhere, and completely changing our life, my life. I was working with thousands of people per day, I was doing events, and then suddenly it was just you and me and laptops. That's it, right? That's that was our days. And so it was a huge shift for me, and I guess you know, there's this saying that when you finally find safety in your life, whether it's with a new partner, or you settle down, or you are finally like rooted in your life, your body starts to feel safe and it starts to feel things kind of like melting, it starts to like melt, and you these things come to the surface. And I think that's what happened to me. And also two years before that, my dad was diagnosed with a mental illness that I don't believe in. Okay, it's all just like resistance to what is, and so I think on another level, out of all of the levels that this was the cause of, is that I was scared that I would end up like him because he it was two years that he was in and out of psychiatries and hospitals, and I would come from Dubai home, and I wouldn't even recognize him because the pills changed him, and I just saw what this medical system, the Western one, does to a human with that starts to feel emotions and doesn't know how to deal with them, and suddenly I was in that spot, and I'm like, fuck now what? Like, I don't want to be like my dad. So it was this fear of emotions, not the emotions themselves that started to freak me out. And another level was that I started to blame you because I couldn't name all of those things, I wasn't that aware of things, what was happening yet. And so I thought you're the problem. I I started to project my emotions and my my sadness, my anger, and all the heavy energy that I was feeling on you because that's what people normally do. If there's if you're in a relationship and you start to feel things and you don't know what to do with all of those emotions, of course you're going to project it on the closest person, which is your partner. And in this case it was you, baby. So I started to even more micro micro surveill you and our relationship. And I started to be like, oh my god, what's wrong? What's happening? And it started to freak me out because everything was going well, just not my mental health. And I was like, dude, was this a mistake? Is he not the one? Is he not the is he the problem? Oh my god, what's happening? The business is going well, our life is going in the right direction, everything is so easy. Why is this so hard?

SPEAKER_01 22:31

So, can you be more practical? Because I don't really remember those things. So, can you say what was actually happening? Like what, like, how did you start blaming me and how can I please finish? So, how did you start blaming me and how did Can I please finish? Just shut up. And you know, like like what like because you said things that are like so much in the air, even for me. I don't know how it is for somebody who haven't been there, but like I was there, and I just remember that I had to to tell you a couple times to calm down that everything is okay, but I don't I don't really remember like what was happening, you know, like with you and yeah. I I I probably I wouldn't even understand at that point, so that's why I would just like so I tell you, remember when you started Probably not, but go on.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Okay, so you call it that just is Lee. Like your that you are being bad to me, but in this very loving way, like you are making fun of me. That was still our big thing until like three years later.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

We had communication based on jokes that were actually, and I think 99.9999% of people do this in the world, they were based on our weaknesses, and we would pinpoint it and make it a joke. We would put each other down, yeah, and it would be something we would connect over, it would be fun because we didn't see the harming level of it, and we would be like making fun of each other in this way. Yeah, for example, about my body, about my lashes, or my hair. I don't know, something, and we would just be like, Oh my god, look at these people, it's bigger than your face, or something like that. I don't know. Okay, but sometimes you would just tell me something, and I would tell you, oh my god, how do you speak to me? And then even my friends noticed it in the cottage. They said, Why am I with you know, like it started to suddenly my belief that something is not okay with you, and you're not actually a good guy, because it was the only way my mind could create story and reason what was happening, explain, everything started to suddenly point to that. I started to get like evidence of this story. You know, I started to notice like throughout the day, every time you said something like podia bavany, I don't know how to say it in English, um like a digging, like a this, you know, this kind of loving, this little comments, innocent, but I could feel them somewhere, and that something somewhere it would come up, and then I would be like, Oh my god, you don't appreciate me, you don't respect me. Remember?

SPEAKER_01 25:14

You know what I remember now when you speak?

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

I remember how when we started working, yeah, you kept bothering me all the time, and then you had a problem when I told you that I need to. Well, that's another topic. And I need to when I'm on my computer and when I'm working on something, like I can't constantly have your questions about uh looking at you because you just put a new t-shirt on and I should look at it how look how cute it looks, or like well, that's not really what I would do.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

But it was always just like show you, like, look what puppy is doing.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

Yeah, I'm like, man, like I I have to like, but I I it's not like I would snap in on you or something. I just like I just told you like baby, but you know, like but you kept doing it all the time, like even though I told you, like, baby, can you please let me be like I'm on a computer, I'm working on something, and every time you speak to me, like it takes me out of my concentration, yes, and you kept doing it, and you kept doing it, you kept doing it. So, this is what I remember, and I remember then that you were sad about that that I'm not giving you attention and this kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Well, this is I think beautiful thing to mention that it's not all like so easy when a couple starts to work together. There is adjustment period, and it took me years to understand that when you're in the zone, I'm not supposed to talk to you, and it's just much better to wait, write down the list of 20 questions and you know ideas that I had between you know those few hours, and then sit you down and just put everything on you. So, yeah, there were it actually takes it's a learning curve when we start it was a learning curve when we started working together, right? There was so many, there were so many lessons, and one of them was this, and yet it would also add to that fire inside of me. So I don't know if I explained it well, but it's fine, like I think. So yeah, this this is what was happening behind the scenes for me, and even though or for example, remember the remember the moment with the sh shift sheep can Instagram Can you be speaking in English if you don't know? Do you remember the shift uh the icon of the shift down? Oh, arrow. Okay, there was an incident of an arrow pointing down that I was wanted to put into our Instagram bio for Magnetic Couples Bracelet, because I was creating socials for us. And it's creating this huge fight because you guys you have to realize we had no idea what loving communication is. What is not jumping into each other's speech, what is not taking things personally, like it was the most unhealthy communication base that we had between each other, and this took years, our relationship changed like oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

But I wouldn't necessarily, from my point of view, point it like this that it was so unhealthy communication.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

Like I think I had unhealthy communication. I even said bad words to you. I had you know, for me, I can only speak for myself. You were very jumpy, I was very reactive, I was very blaming, and I didn't I said so many things I didn't mean, and I wanted to hurt you back when you hurt me. I was very nasty, I was very like this is why I really believed I'm a bad person back then as well, because I just wanted to like sting, you know, because if the moment you hurt me, not by you know, not like on purpose, the moment I feel hurt, I was like, oh I need revenge. I'm gonna give it to him so that he knows. And this is hard to admit, but also not hard to admit.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

It's the first time I'm hearing you to say that.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Loud? No, I told you this. I told you when we were thinking talking about these things. I told you many times, it's fine, you don't remember stuff.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

No, but it's nice that you say that because I felt that for years, and and I, you know, it it's really hard because I try to explain it to you that this is what you do, and I begged you to stop doing it, and it felt like for me, it felt like that you don't understand that you do that, you know?

SPEAKER_00 29:31

No, I very much understand it and I understood it at that point. I just didn't know what to do about it. I didn't know anything. But then I attracted people and things into my life that actually showed me how to transmute all of this projection and painful, hurtful communication and understanding that my emotions are my emotions and the pain is mine, you didn't create it in me, and you helped basically help me feel my emotions, and that it's not the conflict or it doesn't point into the fact that we have to break up because we are not you know compatible because we fight a lot, the fights were so so bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

But not at that point, there were not none no bad fights. At least for me, I don't remember one bad fight at that point. I remember at that point, no. At that point no. I remember bad fights maybe two years after that or three, but at that time I don't really remember bad fights.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Man, when we went to our first long-term accommodation.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

But let's stay in those five months that we are in right now, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Yeah, but for me, this was really hard. It was so hard for me emotionally, and then what helped me was the bioresonance. I wanted to also mention that. It's something we will mention also later, because it helped me a lot last year as well. But bioresonance was something that I really that helped me in 2017 after I kind of overdid it with MDMA on Sri Lanka's New Year's Eve parties, and for seven months I was like depressed, and this was the thing that helped me because I don't know what it does, it basically just like somehow does the frequency thing, and it helped me, remember? You drove me there, and it helped me for some time. That's when I first felt the relief. This was in November. It was really hard three months for me, and so my I my emotional state. I of course connected it with you, and I started to blame you, and I thought you are the reason until I didn't. Yeah. So this is what was happening behind the scenes while the MCB was being born, while we started to make our first profits, while we were deciding to go to Bali, while we were, you know, doing all of these decisions, I was inside falling apart, scared and emotional, and didn't know how to deal with it.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

And I guess my journey of learning how to accept you and love you no matter what, started.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Oh my god. You know what? But this is what Ivanka says.

SPEAKER_01 32:13

And it's still and it's still in progress to be six years after.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

I mean it's a lifelong pro progress. Because I think once you are in a relationship and once your evolution kind of brings you into the level where you understand that unconditional love and the love, what is love, right? We know now, it's the state without resistance. And it's just which is well that's what is opposite of resistance, it's acceptance, right? And allowing. So once you understand that true unconditional love has no demands and it has no rules, and you don't try to change the other person, you love them the way they are, and you fully and deeply love and accept them the way they are, that's when you reach the point when honestly, last time you said, like remember you said um I don't think there's this reason for breakup ever. Do you remember you said this?

SPEAKER_01 33:05

No.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

So we spoke about what kind of victim it would have to be to break up.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

It depends on the level of this unconditional love a person can do or the level of acceptance. So you know, if but of like if you know there is no reason for breakup if you have like mastered unconditional love and acceptance, but that like every single human being has a different level of that. Yes, depends on their evolution, right? So obviously, uh you know, it in in people's eyes or even others' eyes in the past, like obviously it looked like and there was a reason for you know breakup. So it yeah, yeah. So it's just it's like we would have to create this you know perfect conditions in order for that to really make sense. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

But I feel like I have it at at this point that way with you, but like let's see, right? We don't know what the future holds for us. But the thing is that um I heard somewhere that when you find your partner or when you attract partner who is emotionally so reactive, like I was before, it is exactly because your lesson from being with such person is to accept because you're not that emotional, right? Your emotional pattern is like much more calm and so like chill, and you have emotions, you shed a tear sometimes, but like it's not like me up and down, feeling everything for everyone.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Yeah, it's more like what how I would call it to be honest, is not that uh like I don't have like emotions or emotional pattern, it's more like how do I deal with those emotions and how do I react to them, and and I feel like that I can handle a lot, you know, like I can feel it and I don't have to necessarily yell or jump or be you know whatever. So I think that's that that's how I would call it. Like the way you can handle your body basically, exactly because I feel exactly the same things as you, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's just the way we are able to handle it.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

And I learned And then then you like the the society or whatever calls these people that they are like bipolar? No, I don't know what is that. No, they they call I mean those people that don't have like I mean that can handle a lot, and that they don't like they call it how do you call it like you call it that like you don't care about anything. How do you call a person like that? Like you called me that, like you said that I'm so like I don't feel anything and egoistic? No, um no, and I and I just don't care about anything, and I just like anything can happen and I'm just okay with that.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Oh victim? Yeah, no, wait, um so whatever.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Yeah, I don't care like what's the word, but like you know, like leave in the wind? No, baby, just no. You are like you're combining all the things that are just has nothing to do with this, like a salamista.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

So how do you say that? Exactly. So it doesn't matter, it's not the point.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

The point is the person who has zero fucks given.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Yes, exactly, like uh you know, like uh careless. Yes, exactly. Like stoner, you know, botherless who just smokes weed all day and doesn't care about anything. There must be a word for that. Can you ask Chat GPT?

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Can you?

SPEAKER_01 36:42

Oh, I can move.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Okay, wait, I pause it. Okay. So we found out so we ChatGPT said it's mouth pichista, not giving a fucker.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Yeah, let's just imagine a person who really doesn't give a fuck, right? Yeah, and I feel like that that's a person who you can literally shit on a head and they're like okay with that, right? Yeah, and the thing is that I feel like that society looks at these people like like something's wrong with them, right? Like they don't care, like they're just there, like they're just there, like like they just don't care, like you can do whatever. But if you think about it, like their level of love is really high because they don't resist what is they they just they are okay with it. Like whatever you do, they don't judge you, they're not trying to change you, they're not trying to stop you, you know. So basically, that's love because there is no resistance.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

Yeah, but baby, everything I think we live in a world of duality, and everything could be done from love, and everything can be done from fear. You can use a knife for making amazing dinner, and you can use a knife for killing someone. I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

I just wanted to push it show another angle of the jumped in my speech. Yes, yes, that's right. I'm sorry, but I've seen it's because I don't know. We are not you jumped more times. But I just don't like you are saying I I hear you what you are saying, but how can you from fear just not you know care when somebody's yelling at you?

SPEAKER_00 38:16

Well, I had that in my own house with my dad, and it was not from a fear, it was just that no bad.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

You just said that it can be done with a fear, and now you just said it was not from fear. So, what is it? Is it from fear or is it not from fear?

SPEAKER_00 38:28

Look, um okay, let me think about this because I know what I want to say. It's just that it requires more articulation processing, which is really hard to do.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Okay, so before you before you come up with the right thing, I wanna say what I wanted to finish there is that like society looks at these people like something bad, right? But actually, I wouldn't necessarily look at it like that because I think that those people actually are more loving that maybe regular person. Yes. And they it's just considered something or labeled something, you know.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

And um but then it comes also with like do they have boundaries? Do they say no when they need to? It's do they need to change it? I think it's not like black and white.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Yeah, they don't need to nothing is nothing is black and white for sure.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

Exactly, and so this is very like a nuanced conversation, but I know exactly what you mean. I do, I do, and we know exactly what we're talking about. I understand what you're talking about, and I know it's like basically the level where I feel like we are entering there, that we are accepting towards life as this, right? Because we trust and we believe that this is what we chose for ourselves, and it literally has the most amazing because that intelligence that created our body and life, and I don't know what is life, what is life is like the most intelligence, people call it God, keep people call it universe, whatever it is, it's us as well. Like that is what is creating all these life circumstances and situations for us, and who are we to think it's bad, that it's a horrible thing happening. So our late latest uh yeah practice, what we're practicing is unconditional acceptance towards how things are, and from the outside, it could look look like also you guys don't care that you live in one room and you don't have a house, your own house, and all of these things. Well, we care, but also we understand that if it's not here, there's a reason for it, and we'll know later. We will be able to connect the dots and we're fine with how things are. It can look like we don't give a fuck, and we're just like chilling and whatever, but what else are you supposed to do? Are you gonna resist and burn out like I did in the last years? No. So we do learn to accept it, and it can look like we don't give a fuck. But actually, no, we are just tuned in and we can you help me here?

SPEAKER_01 41:09

I feel like you went so far from speaking. So I don't I don't I don't wanna go like I don't wanna like You don't want me to take you with me? No, I don't. Okay, it's fine. So yeah, but I think five months in Slovakia 2020. That's that's my topic.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

Maybe yeah, that's your structural way of doing podcasts, but that's not mine.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

Yeah, that's why I'm not gonna Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Yeah, yeah. So but I think the listeners will get it. I think because I get it, somebody else out there must be there that uh understands what I mean. Like depends who's judging, depends who is looking at the same thing. They will perceive it as either manufichista, not giving a fuck, you know, botherless person, live in the wind, or fully accepting a person living with non-resistance, non-judgment, and non-the attachment, right? We can actually philosophy about this forever. But I know what you mean. The society made it look like a bad thing because that's power. If you can accept shit and you live with non-resistance in your body, you're healthy and you feel amazing, and you feel amazing, because you don't attach your worth into external things, you don't need anything to validate you, you actually feel good in the present moment, and that's power. So, of course, the society called it a bad thing because that's that's when you become uncontrollable, right? Too deep for you. That's fine.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

I don't feel like going into the topics that are just too much.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_01 42:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Which I did.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

Yeah, that's why I'm quiet.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Well, it's already been a good time, like 45 minutes. So we wanted to cover more things actually. What else is there?

SPEAKER_01 43:01

No, I know. That's you know, that's the thing. Like if we want to cover more things, then we need to stay on topic, otherwise we will never cover more things.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

But I'm fine with not covering more topics, and I'm fine with um life speaking through me about things that come without me needing to control or plan or manage or note them down. Like I'm happy we started with the first points. You said your part first, great, you're happy, and then I could just yap and rant about random things that come to my mind.

SPEAKER_01 43:30

Do you? Like we were saying something and then we got sidelined and like you said your part, how you saw those five months, right?

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Yeah, and then I spoke about my emotional things that actually led us somewhere into the woods, and that's okay. And I'm inviting us to come back. I think I do because yeah, I just wanted to really authentically say that yes, while our business was booming and everything was going great, inside of me, it was.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Because if you remember this whole sideline started with me raising my hand.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

See?

SPEAKER_01 44:07

This is not about pointing whose fault it is. I'm just saying that I feel like because I since I raised my hand, whatever you were saying at that point was not finished.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Yeah, well, I don't remember what I was talking about before you raised your hand, and I'm okay with it. And this is acceptance of what is. It led us here.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

I don't remember. It's not about if you remember or not, but if you want to finish that or if you don't. Okay, so.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

I like that how it goes. I I also so look, the reason why I created a podcast for myself is that when I even record alone, I am just an observer of what's coming through me. I don't judge it, I don't resist it, and I don't plan it, I don't manage it. It just comes out in my first episode. I don't even finish sentences, I jump from one thing to another, and that's me. It was a reason why I didn't start a podcast before, because I was like, I'm not structured enough, people will not understand. And now I was just like, you know what, fuck it. I'm just gonna do it for myself. I love our conversations. If we were not recording, I think you wouldn't actually go back, right? You wouldn't try to structure a conversation. Like if we would go for a coffee, if you cut me mid-sentence and we don't remember, we just let it go. So let this be also, you know, flowy thing. We said things that were supposed to be said, and I'm fine with it. I really allow it to happen how it wants to happen. It's just different. See, we are different in how we want things to be. So that's why you are a guest in my podcast, which is great. And I see you, I hear you, I know you want to make it like a beautiful container. But maybe I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

I'm just asking you questions. I'm not saying how I want to do it. I'm just asking you whether you want to do this or you wanna do that. And you keep saying how you are fine with how it is, and I understand that.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

I'm just asking you whether we want to finish something, that's all.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

No, I don't need to finish things. I like to keep things open, and they will close themselves somehow. And sometimes it's nice to say to keep things unfinished, you know. You allow the person to kind of wander around in their head about where it could go. Because I don't even remember what I was speaking about. But I'm I feel complete because I said how it was for me. We didn't really cover much, but I spoke about things and this is why I made the podcast, you know what I mean? It doesn't have to be you told me like it has to be practical. Oh so you raised your hand and you asked me, can you be more practical about all of this what you're saying?

SPEAKER_01 46:44

So let's go back to the practical thing. So, like I would be interested, or maybe people would be interested, or if I'm listening this, that's how I'm gonna say it. If I'm I'm listening this, I would be interested that. Okay, so you guys were building business and you were having all those issues, and you know, Tomash was there, you know, whatever. Trusting I will one day be okay. But uh I didn't felt like you're not okay. But um how did you dealt with all of that? Like how how were you able to manage it? Like how like how did it affect you and like is there some kind of outcome? Like how did you how did you went like like how did it felt when it was the worst, and how were you how did you manage to come back and just be okay and then eventually work on the business and eventually be a girlfriend and eventually move to Bali, you know, like how like just like something, you know, like how was that? You know, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 47:42

I do, and it's a lot of questions in one, but I can only say probably one thing, and it is that in this specific episode because you requested to focus on some podcasts. Okay, but I tried to accommodate you because I wanted you to feel uh comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 48:00

Please don't make me feel comfortable.

SPEAKER_00 48:02

Okay, I like that. So you know, I tried to talk about the five months that you believed we are gonna talk about. So for me, I started to basically so how did I manage it? I didn't. I started to freak out, and I was freaking out in a fight and f fight or flight mode for months, years, and everything changed when we came to Bali. And I think also for me, going to Bali was very important location because not only the energy, let's say, is very different there, okay, people are different, the collective energy feels more feminine, more loving. I started to like kind of cleanse there, okay, with all these emotions, which is a little bit woo-voo white magic stuff, but I still believe that the location had a lot to help me. For example, being in the ocean and being more grounded and you know, living in the nature more than in Dubai, more than in Slovakia. It was just proper nature living. Nature affects you, nature supports your nervous system. So all of this combined was supporting me from the moment we came there, and also I decided that I'm going to start reading books like um spiritual books, let's say, uh, because I already had some kind of you know path going that way, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna double down on this. I should probably focus on myself. And I started to literally read alchemist and all these things, and then we attracted the couple that kind of changed and pivoted the life uh that we had and life as we knew it until then. And they started. That's when I found the energy healing, and I saw it as a tool that will help me get better. Now, after many years, I see it was just a part of my evolution, and the only thing that happened was just accepting that I have these emotions and they're not dangerous. But I cannot, you know, reply to your question in one sentence. This is how I manage like I think you would like me to say one, I cried, two, I apologized, three, I felt like shit, four, because that's what I did. I would always apologize. I'm sorry, I'm horrible, you know, I didn't mean that, I'm so sorry, you know, I'm such a bad person. That's what I would do. It would be a fucking loop of me feeling like shit after I say things I don't mean. That's how I managed it. Unhealthy? Yes. Did it work? Yes. Did you stay with me? Yes. All good. That's what was happening. And it somehow got us through that period of time. If you really want me to focus on those five months, but that's all I can tell you. But that's not how I speak about things. I take you on a fucking journey through years and then come back and get lost in the middle three times. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

So I have a two-part question. Number one is why did you suddenly change your voice and start speaking? Number one is this, number two is that, number three is that. Yeah. And then second part is how did you figure what I want? Like how how did like I like how did you figure that I want to hear this and I want this answer? And then you said that that's not you, you are doing this, but I would like you to speak like this. Like, how did you figure that?

SPEAKER_00 51:28

Like, well, I'm not perfect.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

No, no, no, I'm not saying you are or I'm not. How did you figure that? Like how I see you this way.

SPEAKER_00 51:35

You coming, you saying at the end of last podcast that you want to have points and focus on them and have structure is the reason why I see you that way. And also, in between, when we had a little pause, you told me that you don't feel complete and it should be about these five months, and you said your part in ten minutes, and I'm talking about Did I did I say any of those words that you just just said?

SPEAKER_01 52:02

No, because it's really important, Camo, because like I like I understand that you see me like that, but let's look at what is actually reality.

SPEAKER_00 52:10

What is actually reality?

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Well, that this how you see me is not really me.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Okay, well then it's my story.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

So I fully deeply love and accept myself. How about I'll give you the same advice like I've been giving you for years? How about you ask me? Like how it actually is without assuming how I have it. Is that something you can start incorporating?

SPEAKER_00 52:41

Well, can you tattoo it on your forehead so I see it as an option? Dude, it's the last thing I have as an option in that moment. I have nothing to do with it.

SPEAKER_01 52:51

Also, just so you know, like you like really you don't have to do things so you please me, Camo. I've been like I feel like like you already learned that lesson. But I feel like in this podcast, like you do things so I am okay. You literally said that I have to do it like this, so you are okay.

SPEAKER_00 53:07

Yeah, because you are part of it.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

Yeah, but I I I come, I'm okay not to be okay. Like it has nothing to do with you. It's my lesson. If something hurts me, if something is uncomfortable for me, like I don't need you to to just be on your toes just so you so I'm okay. Like if I need to feel something, I will feel it no matter how much you put yourself on the toes and try to just please me and make sure I'm okay. Like you cannot do like it's not you know that's not possible, right?

SPEAKER_00 53:36

It's not possible, yeah. Well, thank you for reminding me that I can just be fucking self, you know. Me. I can just be myself and speak. I'll but you know it's uh actually it's not about you, it's about me. It's uncomfortable for me when I speak, and then you're like, well, this is you know, can you now be practical? It's like you're telling me it was not enough.

SPEAKER_01 54:01

But but that's again is something what I'm not telling you.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

Oh Jesus in the scat.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

Because if I would be telling you that it is not good enough, or whatever you said, what am I telling you?

SPEAKER_00 54:14

That it's not practical in it. And if I can say it in a different way.

SPEAKER_01 54:17

So if I if I so if I wanted to tell you that this is not good or whatever, I would use those words. But what I what I'm saying is like it's like you know what is funny? That literally now I am putting new descriptions of our bracelets on the website. Yeah and you literally write something there, and underneath you write, this is what it means, this is what it looks like in daily life. So you literally what you were first wrote, then you translate into a practical way, and you literally tell. So that's what I wanted. Does it mean that the second part of your description says that the first part is not good enough and it's not practical enough and it's shit and it should be changed?

SPEAKER_00 54:56

No.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Exactly. So that's exactly the way.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

I don't operate in that way.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

I don't operate, I I can only speak without thinking. You are try you are what you're asking me, if you want me to be practical, is to be, it takes so much effort to be able to do that. But baby, but baby, listen, practical.

SPEAKER_01 55:15

But I'm not asking you to be practical. You say your thing and then I just ask you a question. If I asked you, can you speak about this? It's the same question as I've asked you, okay, can you now say the same thing but more practical? It's the same thing. I'm just asking a question. By me asking a question, question doesn't mean okay, whatever you just said is total bullshit. Can you just speak now this please? No. You know, I always have problems with questions.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

I saw it as questioning my ability to.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

But can you see how it's just a question?

SPEAKER_00 55:47

Yeah, baby. Okay, so nice. This is okay. Well, look, this is getting long. I would like to end it here. Okay. Because I love it.

SPEAKER_01 55:55

But there is, I think there are many things.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

This will be hard editing, but that's okay. We will need to put some things out. However, I really love this. Because, guys, just so you know, this podcast is not only here for us to share our story, but also to share our honest, unfiltered, authentic, truthful dynamics between us, because we're just having a conversation like we would having uh breakfast or coffee or lunch or dinner. Okay, so these are our real moments. This is how we really speak every day, and that's why I'm not going to edit it out because I think people polish their podcasts and YouTube videos and everything, they stage it, and it's all fake because this is real, what we're having here. We question each other, we open each other, we make each other like feel somehow, and then we have to like communicate it in a loving way, and just like this is real life, bro. What is life? This is life, this is exactly what life is, and this is why this podcast is so fucking powerful for me, and I am so passionate about so happy, even though whatever this podcast was, and however anyone could judge it, I don't give a fuck. I'm just going to edit it in a way that I love, I'm gonna post it, and I know that it's gonna show the authentic truth of how relationships are. Because no, people like it's not Netflix rom com, it's not how they told us. Like, when two powerful people meet and two powerful minds, they will have you know contrast, they will have conflict, and they will have conversations that are challenging, you know, and I actually believed maybe that our that you're challenging me too much because like it's always like two turkeys on a field, but like uh this is real, that's what challenges growth, that's what creates the evolution, is when you surround yourself with a or when you couple yourself with someone who sees the world completely differently, yeah, and then you too just exchange ideas and maybe never meet, but that makes it fun. Like, no, you don't need to agree on everything. No, you don't have to not fight. No, you don't like no, it's all bullshit. This is real, guys. Like, go back when you finish washing your dishes and finish listening to this episode. Go back to your husband and be like, baby, it's okay to fight, it's okay to exchange opinions. Like, guys, I'm here to normalize the fuck-ups, the things that people don't talk about, the messiness, the all the bullshit of this life. Like, it's not bullshit in a bad way, it's the beauty of it, is the magic, it's the mess. I love mess. And I love you, and I love that you create that in me so that can it can rearrange then. You make me think, you make me perceive things differently, and that's what I love about you. You make me so angry.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

You make me too sometimes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:58

But I love you for it. Who else would do it? My dog?

SPEAKER_01 59:03

No, she does it too.

SPEAKER_00 59:04

Oh, yeah, but she loves me, like I love her too. So I think this is ex it's healthy, it's a healthy part of relationship, and that's what I want to show. Life, this is life. What is life? This, guys, this fucking podcast and these uh conversations that we have, unfinished sentences, unpractical answers, you know, no like containers, time frames in.

SPEAKER_01 59:35

But we have some containers, it's good.

SPEAKER_00 59:37

We have each other, and that's enough of a container.

SPEAKER_01 59:39

No, I mean these points that what we're gonna be talking about.

SPEAKER_00 59:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

And it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 59:44

You were really positive thinking we would cover all six.

SPEAKER_01 59:47

No, I was not. Really? I knew that there's not we're not gonna cover it. But it doesn't matter. It this is like this is not about covering it all, and this is not about just holding strictly on these points, but it's about having them and just knowing where we are. And if we just fade way too far from those, we always know where to come back and what we were talking about in the first place. You understand? Okay. They're like they're like they're like if you are on a stage and you forget what you were speaking about, then you just look at them and be like, ah okay, I know now. So that's all.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:21

Yeah, well thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

This was really uh Yeah, it was nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:25

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

It it was powerful. Yeah, it it it was really powerful, and you know, it all leads into non-resistance and acceptance into how it was. I feel complete, and even though maybe this is why I don't plan, and this is why I like to actually record alone, because I I just do, I don't think, it's just whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:44

But it's it's good also, I think, to actually have some points, you know, not just like go into the clouds too much, you know. Like I think it needs balance.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:53

Balance, yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe that's what I'm learning with you. So but then also it selects the audience, right? Like somebody cannot listen, like you would never listen to my podcast. But somebody does, somebody who I reflect their way of thinking, somebody will enjoy this way of listening. It's just how different brain works. Brains work again. I'm gonna say it. I don't do this really for anyone, I do it for me. I love it. It's I I don't have plans with this, I just do it because I love it. You said it's nice break of your day for me. It's like fun. I'm gonna now edit it, and I just love the process. I keep it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

If you are in that kind of environment where I was on those five months where you just like to do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:36

Oh my god! And the circle is closed! You opened this podcast, you opened this podcast sharing how you felt about us building MCB, and for me, that's how I feel about this podcast. Wow, good, good. I love you so much.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

Love you too.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:55

Well, guys, thank you for listening. If you made it until here, congratulations, you deserve the gold medal.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

Yeah, and also I would like to thank our uh official sponsor, Magnetic Couples Bracelets, for making this available for us because without that sponsor that is literally uh sponsoring us and paying this room and this uh air that we breathe. Yes, and the mics we speak into, and the mics we speak into, and the phones that we use to record this, without that, it wouldn't be possible for us to sit here and record this because we wouldn't have food to eat and room to see that. Exactly, and dog to look at.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:34

Yeah, so thank you. Go to www.magnetic couples bracelets.com. Go, go check our business. No, for sure no. Our sponsor and our love poured into one beautiful online store and 130,000 couples wearing the bracelets all over the world. So that's our sponsor. Thank you so much. Subscribe, like, and comment. As always, let us know what was your light bulb moment and if or don't if you don't feel like exactly. We love you.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:05

Just do whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

Yeah. Just before.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:11

But if you but if you have some time and you're still sitting on the toilet and you are not done yet, and you just have a couple more minutes, then it would be nice to you know let us know how you like this.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:23

Yeah, and like what are you taking away? Like, what are we leaving with? I'm even scared to ask you what we're leaving with. Because last time I asked you, you said you want to have points and you don't want me to jump into your speech.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:33

So, what are you living with today? I'm just gonna fucking do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:37

I don't know. I feel I feel really good now. Like I I like I was a little bit uh in the bit in the when we started, like I felt like I'm still in the zone of work that I was doing before, and then then at some point I I felt a little bit I don't know, I just got lost in what was said, and it was just too much, and for me, like just too too broad. Like I felt like if I could if I continued all the things, or if I just said something about all the things that you were speaking about, like I would be here for like a month. Like that's how I felt, that's why it was a little bit overwhelming for me. So I was just like, I'm just gonna be quiet and let her speak because there's nothing else I can do. But then it was really funny and everything, so I I feel really good. So thank you for that.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:21

Thank you, baby. What I'm leaving with is that the lesson again, when you just not not don't resist the way things are, they will figure themselves out and they will complete themselves and they will idea and make sense. As always, everything just like this podcast. It was a fucking journey, it was like a LSD trip, it was like crazy. It had like an arc and everything, it had like a problem, like the movie, you know. Remember when we watch a movie, I always know which part of the timeline is gonna be a problem. So that's what happened with this podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:54

But it's funny because now when I think about it, it's just really I at some point I feel like we both feel like we are on the edge of being triggered from what the other person is saying. It's just like you have to work with yourself a little, and then you really have to like be acceptive and just like allowing them to say whatever kind of bullshit they just need to say, you know. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:21

I don't have it like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:22

Yeah, maybe speak for yourself, like a little bit. You said yes three times before, so obviously you have it a little bit like that, but then then we come back and then we it's like super funny and super amazing. So I feel like there's I feel like I I feel I certainly feel like a big range of emotions during recording, during every recording, so it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:45

It's incredible, and you do it anyways, you still keep going. We don't cancel, we don't stop.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

But it's still like I still have a like my overall like um feeling about it is still like positive and good, and I like it. It's like those five months for me, you know. Yeah, like yeah, I like honestly, I don't remember big fights there. I remember that there were some uh not easy conversations and moments, but I for me it was all just amazing. Yeah, yeah, your focus was elsewhere.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:19

Your focus was elsewhere, your story or memory is different than mine.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

But I think also it's because I don't tie anything with love, in the meaning of that when we argue, I don't I don't connect it with the fact that okay, we are gonna break up and this is shit, and is it okay between us, you know? Like for me, it's like anything that happens, like it doesn't affect me how I feel like. So that's why for me I feel like I always in those years felt good about us and you because and I always like observed with kind of um smile on my face your all your moments where you was where you felt like that we're gonna break up and and all of that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:08

Let's let's keep it for the next episode. That's a really good thing. It's a teaser, it's a teaser, it's a cliffhanger. Well, that was a very long uh outro, but thank you so much. If you listen until now, let us know because this is like a long one. This is gonna be over an hour, baby. Maybe not, maybe not. Alright, thank you, my love. I love you so much. And thank you guys for listening. Yeah, thank you. Watching. This has no video because I realized that there's so much pressure with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:35

So and mostly because it's 37 degrees outside, it feels like 47.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:40

Yes, you guys, honestly. We're just on a bed, and Tomas is on a chair in front of me, and we're in the AC and surviving, but okay. Alright guys, love you. Have a beautiful day or night wherever you are. Bye. Bye.