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Kristi's Story: He Built It. She Couldn't Let It Go.
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Kristi Grove has been running Tundra Leather on King Street East in Hamilton since 2015. The shop has been there since 1991. Her dad, Peter, built it. When he got sick and passed away, Kristi walked away from a stable finance job at McMaster University and took the reins — even though they never once talked about whether she would.
In this conversation we get into how Peter started the shop, the moment Kristi knew she couldn't let it close, and what it actually felt like to step into a business she'd grown up inside of but never run. We talk about learning leather work from Sean — her dad's original hire — who learned it from Peter. About keeping a physical craft shop alive in downtown Hamilton in 2026. About the workshops that sell out every two months and what they've meant for the business and the community. And about what it's like to be a woman running a trade that still occasionally asks if the man is in.
And we close with the question we ask every guest on The Loew Down — what do you want to be remembered for in your community? Kristi's answer is worth waiting for.
Find Kristi: @tundraleather on Instagram · tundraleather.ca · 313 King St E, Hamilton · Open Tues–Fri 9–5:30, Sat 9–5
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You're listening to The Lowdown. I'm Cassidy Lowen. Real conversations with small business owners in Hamilton. The version they tell their best friend, not the one they post. Because your story matters. So let's get into it. Good morning and welcome back to the Lowdown. I'm your host, Cassidy, and today we have Christy Grove, owner of Tundra Leather. Welcome, Christy. Hi, thank you so much for having me. Thank you for joining us. I've been looking forward to today. Me too. Okay, so Tundra Leather is a store on King Street. For anyone listening that who has not been to your store yet, can you tell us what it is?
SPEAKER_00Totally. So we are like a working leather shop. So what that means is you can walk in and we can be working on any number of different leather working projects at the time that you're there. We kind of stop what we're doing, we answer your questions. So working leather shop, but we also sell everything you need to do your own leather work. So we have leather, tools, supplies, we also teach classes. And yeah, it's a retail shop too. So we make stuff for our own shops. So you can come in and buy leather pieces that we've made there. Amazing.
SPEAKER_01And before Tundra, who were you, Christy? What did your day look like?
SPEAKER_00Who was I? Uh I actually worked for McMaster University and I worked in the provost's office as a finance assistant. So I was like spreadsheets and budgets and all of that kind of stuff. It was like a salary job. So I had benefits and good pay and like steady vacation. And yeah, it was like a steady going to get somewhere someday kind of job.
SPEAKER_01Wow. Okay. So that was a that's a that's a huge pivot from It's a huge pivot. Yeah. Well, you still get some numbers. Yeah. You still get a numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And what does Tundra actually smell like when you walk in?
SPEAKER_00Okay. So for most people, they walk in and they're like, oh God, it smells so good in here. But for me, I can't even smell it anymore. I get like that one smell of leather on like a Tuesday morning when I walk in after the weekend. But other than that, I'm just like nose blind to it. It's totally gone.
SPEAKER_01That's it. That's it. Oh I know. Oh, I love that. Okay, so can you tell me a little bit about your dad and this shop?
SPEAKER_00Totally. Okay. It's kind of gonna be a bit of a story, but I love telling this story, so I'm just gonna get into it. So my dad was always he always was industrious. So he always wanted to like make his own money and do his own thing. So when he was little, he would get his wagon and he would walk around with his wagon and he would sell TV guides and he would sell donuts from like the local donut shop to like door to door to door. Yeah, that was just his thing. And then when he found out about the local leather shop, which actually was our leather shop, but in 1961 in downtown Hamilton, it opened as a tandy leather. So same type of business, but it was a tandy leather craft location. And he would go in and be like, hey, let me take some of your stuff, like some of your kits and whatever, and I'll sell them door to door to door. Like he just wanted to be involved in that. So after that, he was like, Listen, I want to get more into leather work, so let me let me wash your floors for some scraps of leather. So he'd like wash their floors and wash their windows. And then as he got better at leather work, he was like, Let me make up your kits, your displays for people to see what you're actually selling. And so he started to do that, and then he started to work there, like actually work there. And it was just like the most like organic way for him to get into leather work, but I just always remember him being like that industrious kind of guy.
SPEAKER_01I love that. Yeah. I love that. Oh, Chrissy, that's awesome. Do you know what it was that Peter loved so much about leather? Ugh.
SPEAKER_00So I feel like I knew this question was coming. And it's one of those things that I wish I had asked him. Do you know what I mean? Like when someone passes away, there are always questions. You're like, oh, I wish that I had time to go back and ask them that question. So I don't know. I don't know what he loved about leather. I just always remember growing up in the shop with him around leather. He loved making things out of leather. He loved sourcing different leathers. He loved teaching people how to use leather. He just was that guy that knew everything about it. And you just, you just got the sense that like leather and him, like they just went together. So I don't know what he loved about it, but I feel like it was everything.
SPEAKER_01And it sounds like he just wanted to share that love and passion for it with everyone else.
SPEAKER_00Totally. Everyone that comes in these days is like, oh man, I just love talking to your dad. Like your dad was one of those guys that we would just sit and talk for like 20 minutes. And I'm like, yeah, that was totally him. That's amazing. Did you grow up near the shop? So, okay, longer story short, it used to be a tandy leather location. And then in 1991, it became Tundra Leather. That's when my dad actually bought it. So I was born in 85 and my dad worked at Tandy. And so, yeah, like I grew up sort of like in the Tandy store. And then in 1991, when he bought it, I was even more there. Like I was there on sick days. Like if I was sick from school, someone had to take me, so he'd take me to work. Like it wasn't one of those, like he would stay home with me. No one could stay home, right? So I went to work with him in the summer. I'd go to work with him if I wasn't like in camp. And I just was I was always there. I don't remember a time when I wasn't there.
SPEAKER_01Wow. Oh, that's awesome. Can you walk me through what happened with Peter? Yes. The diagnosis. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yes. This I can talk about. It's tricky. It's tricky to talk about. Um, it's a really hard and emotional thing because I loved him so much. Like we were so, so close. So in 2014, he was diagnosed with a glioblastoma, brain tumor. It was inoperable. There was nothing they could do. So he went through treatment knowing that the outcome was not going to change, but that maybe we would get a little bit more time. So yeah, immediately he stopped work at Tundra. There was nothing like there was nothing he could do. When he was first diagnosed, it was in March and he went into the hospital in May. So I mean, he had very little time at Tundra to get anything in order. And I remember just taking over the paperwork and doing it at night after my job at McMaster. So I'd paid all the bills and ordered the stock and just started to do all of that at night. And when I would visit him at the hospital, he would just start to tell me things like, you're gonna have to learn this, and you're gonna have to know how to do that, and you're gonna have to know this. And we never talked, not once, about what would happen to the business. Not once. We just never talked about it. Ever.
SPEAKER_01Wow, okay. Weird. What so you're you're working during the daytime, you're doing the administrative part then, really, of tundra leather in the evenings. Was there an exact moment where you knew, okay, this is I'm gonna take over?
SPEAKER_00No, there definitely wasn't an exact moment. I feel like it was a decision that was just like it built over time. It started with, I can't see this place close. Like that's what I tell people all the time. I'm like, I just couldn't see it close. I couldn't see it go away. I don't understand what would happen if Tundra Leather wasn't in downtown Hamilton. And so I don't know, like just I guess gradually I started to talk to my husband about it. I started to talk to my mom about it. And I'm like, how would this work? And like, what would happen if I just quit my job and started working at Tundra? Like, how is this gonna work? Is it, I don't know. Okay, so I always remember I worked part-time for my dad, like one day a week doing some of his admin stuff after university when I couldn't get a job. I worked three part-time jobs, and one of them was helping him with his paperwork one day a week. And I was like, you know what, dad? I kind of love it here. I'm like, I want to work here. And he immediately was like, no, this is not working. He was like, you will not make enough money. You are staying at your job at McMaster because you have benefits and you have good pay and you have room for growth and you all of these things. And he was like, no. But then when he got sick, like I said, we just never talked about it. He never knew that I took over. I mean, I'm sure he does in some way, like whatever I believe in, I don't even know. I'm sure he knows in some way, but we never actually talked about it. And so my husband and my mom were just like, if this is what you want to go, like let's let's try it and see what happens. So here we are. Here we are. Here we are.
SPEAKER_01Did anyone ever try to talk you out of it, like during this process, or it was just more letting you talk it out?
SPEAKER_00Uh, there are a couple people, and they know who they are. I don't need to name names, but they just thought you have such a good situation, you have good benefits, you have all of this stuff that you'll need. At the time, my husband did not have a job with benefits, he was still in school, he went back to school. So it was kind of a tricky little bit where for a few years we had no benefits and just were praying that everything was gonna be okay, right? But yeah, the couple people who voiced concern have since realized that it's fine, this is what makes me happy, and the growth that Tundra has seen, I think, reassures them.
SPEAKER_01Incredible. Yeah, incredible, Christy. So, how much did you actually know about leather in 2015, like when you started the takeover? Was it more just the admin part then that you were familiar with?
SPEAKER_00It was the admin part for sure. My dad still did all of the pretty much all of the ordering and all of the pricing, like up until when he got sick. So it was it was kind of a steep learning curve, but also Sean was there. Sean is the full-time leather worker who's been at the shop since 1995. So he, though he didn't do any ordering or pricing or stuff like that, he still knew, hey, we need to get this in stock and we're running low, or hey, we need this, or hey, we need like he knew all of that, and so that was an extremely helpful part of it. And together we just we built our system. Like, this is this is what we need, and this is what we're gonna order, and we made it work. I'm sure it was a little rough in the beginning for some of the customers who were like, why isn't this in stock? And why isn't that in stock? But honestly, everyone understood. Everyone understood, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yes, okay, great. What was the hardest thing to learn that Peter never got to teach you?
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh, it was totally the money part of it. Though I came from a job in finance, I was a finance assistant. So, like, let's be real, I didn't actually make any money decisions. I just did spreadsheets and like helped them budget and helped them, like, I didn't run the money. So all of a sudden, I just I have this bank account. I have to make decisions about what to maybe discontinue or what to get in that other people want. And I was like, okay, but dad, how did you price this? Just asking into the air, right? Like, yeah, what's the formula here? How yeah. And so I have this old book that has a bunch of his old notes in it, notes that we made in the hospital, notes that we he had from previous, and I'm just like flipping through and I find his little formula for like, here's how you figure out the gross profit. And if we're making this much gross profit on this or this or this, then it's gonna be okay. And I was like, okay. And I still have that book, so I still have his writing. That means so much to me, and I still do it exactly like he did it, which just makes me feel comforted, right? Like that's how he did it, and we're still doing it that way, and it just makes so much sense in my head.
SPEAKER_01I love that. I love that you were able to find that book too.
SPEAKER_00Totally.
SPEAKER_01Wow. Do you keep it at the store or do you keep it at home now? It's at the store. You keep it at the store too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's in my locked office, like locker. And I look at it every time I do the books, every single month. And you would think, after 11 years, that I would just know exactly how to do it all. But no, every single month I pull out the book, I read his little notes, and it just like comforts me, and then I get through the month of books and then on to the next.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I love that. Oh, that's great. That's good. Well, it's a it's a huge memory piece attached to it.
SPEAKER_00So totally.
SPEAKER_01That's good. That's really good. So, did anyone, whether it's a supplier or a longtime customer, ever make you feel like you didn't belong in the shop?
SPEAKER_00Honestly, no. No. Everyone was amazing. There were a few people who were like, you know, where's Peter? I'm like, well, you know, he's not he's not here. You're gonna have to deal with me. And I think everyone was pretty much like, okay, like, let's just move forward. We're gonna start a new relationship now. And I don't really remember anyone being rude or anyone not understanding or me having to explain further. Everyone was pretty good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay, good. And so Sean has been in the shop since the early 90s. What is the relationship like now with him? Totally.
SPEAKER_00So, like I said, 1995, he's been there forever. I've known him like my whole life, basically. I've just known him forever. And the relationship right now, there's just so much trust there. Like, I know who he is, I know how he operates, I know that he's gonna have the best interests of the shop all the time. Um, he's also like the maker, so he makes pretty much everything that we sell, and he's also the teacher, so he teaches people. And I think that that alone just means so much to the shop. Like, without that piece, Tundra wouldn't be the same as it is right now, it would be a whole different type of shop.
SPEAKER_01Totally. And I mean the amount of time that he's been at the shop too, that's incredible.
SPEAKER_00I know, I know. He just turned 60 and he's like, Well, I don't know, I'm gonna be here forever, I think. He's like, I don't know. And I'm like, okay, we'll see how it goes. I'll take it. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, that's great. What has Sean taught you that you couldn't have learned anywhere else?
SPEAKER_00So, and this is funny, but I feel like I probably could have learned it from my dad had he been here. But because he's not, I learn leather working through Sean, who learned it from my dad, which is kind of neat. Like I'm learning it secondhand from my dad, but through Sean. And most of it just comes from talking about how he's gonna build a project, or the project, just watching him build the project as I'm working at the desk, or you know, so I've learned so much about actually making things out of leather that I wouldn't otherwise know how to do. So I know the business side, but like I really do understand a lot about how things go together, even if I don't do it, which is cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, completely. So, what is the economic reality of keeping a physical leather shop alive in 2026?
SPEAKER_00It is, I feel I feel like it's the same thing that all businesses or all small businesses anyway are facing. The rising costs of everything, right? The margins are just getting like tighter and tighter because you don't want to raise your prices, because you don't want customers to be upset, you don't want them to go elsewhere. So you want to try and keep your prices low, but then your margins are getting tighter and smaller, you're making less money. It's tough. And I mean, not not even ignoring the part about being in downtown Hamilton, which is also just a tricky place in 2026. So money is a whole thing, and location is a whole thing, but we are also very much a destination location. Like if you're looking for a leather shop, there isn't another one in Hamilton. So if you're coming to us, you're coming to us for a reason. And all of those things aside, most people are willing to support like a small business and maybe pay a couple extra bucks than if they went somewhere else. And that's amazing. I just, our customers are amazing. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. They are what keeps us going and keeps us supported and allows Sean and I, well, and our part-time person ro uh to all make some money at this, you know, and we're not millionaires. I tell that to everyone all the time. I'm like, I'm definitely not a millionaire. But they're they're allowing us to have a living, you know, and keep the lights on in the shop and keep it going. So yeah, it's tough, but we're making it work.
SPEAKER_01Yes, definitely. Well, I mean, to me, anyone who's looking for leather, they also understand quality and where it's coming from. So they're not gonna go to Amazon to see what they can find. Leather-wise, they are looking for a quality shop, which goes with what you were saying, it's a destination. Like people are coming specifically downtown Hamilton, even if they're maybe they're from a different city too, to come and see you. Totally. Okay, cool. The workshops. So I know that you have done a number of workshops, and that was something that you had brought in yourself, is the whole workshop idea. Is that correct? Yes. So, what type of customer shows up usually to those, and why did you start them?
SPEAKER_00So, um, okay, first of all, my dad did teach a couple of classes, but he would teach more like one-off private classes to a person every Thursday night for like four weeks or something, if they wanted to make a specific thing, or they'd walk them, my dad would walk them through it or whatever. But he didn't teach classes like we teach classes now. Other places were teaching classes. There were places in Toronto, there was uh Needlework on James Street, who's a fabric shop that was teaching classes, and that's actually the first place that we started. And my dad and I even went there. So we taught a belt class at Needlework, and then we were like, you know what? I wonder if we could do this here after he passed away. I was like, I wonder if we could just do this here. Our shop is tiny, so our class sizes are really small, but I'm like, there is a market for this. People want to learn how to do this, people want to have like a class, just even off of a one-time class. So I think that's where it kind of splits. There are people who want to learn leather work, there are people who want to get into the actual craft of it, and they will take certain classes like hand stitching or maybe an individual instruction class with Sean to learn a very specific skill. And then there are the people who are like, Hi, I want a night out with my Bessies and I just want to make one thing, and then I maybe will never come back. But I had a great time, thank you, and goodbye. And so those two separate groups, I would say like fill up 50-50 the classes, which is fine, right? Like you can take a belt class for an hour, leave with your belt, and have had an amazing experience and then be done with leather work. Maybe that's not your thing. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, and I find that those are so popular right now is finding a few friends and going to these classes, and they're fun. But you know what? I every time someone goes to one and they take one and they like it, they're gonna go and tell their friends. So that's what I'm hoping. Yeah, it keeps it moving. So, do you teach any of the classes yourself?
SPEAKER_00A few. So, this upcoming the round that just launched right now, which will be for May June, Sean is teaching five classes and I'm teaching three classes. So, Sean teaches classes pretty much every Saturday morning, and I teach classes when I can. So, sometimes on Sundays, sometimes on Tuesday nights. This round I'm teaching them on Tuesday nights.
SPEAKER_01Okay, awesome. So, leather has historically been a male-dominated trade. What has it been like walking into that as a woman?
SPEAKER_00Honestly, generally, it's been good. So people have been really receptive. People understand like that I grew up here, right? So I know, I know what I'm talking about, I know what I'm doing. And I think even the stores that aren't here, the people who like other leather stores, they know who we are and they know what we do. And we're a very small local shop. We're not looking to like take over the world in leather, we're just servicing the Hamilton area, giving them what they need. And people understand, I think now that I know what I'm talking about. There are the occasional customers that come in that are like, hey, is the man here? And I'm like, yeah, yes, but like, can I help you with something? You know, like, yeah. And it's it, they're just like the old school guys who have been, you know, in and out of leather work for their whole lives that just know Sean and know that he knows what he's talking about. And I just try not to be offended. And I'm like, I can also help you with that though. And if they just want to talk to Sean, fine. Like, I'll keep doing what I was doing, you know. I try not to let it get to me, it's not the end of the world. And it's few and far between, to be honest.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Has running tundra changed how you see yourself?
SPEAKER_00That's a tough question. So I feel like, I feel like of course it has, right? I've learned that I can do more than I think I can. But at the same time, I feel like I have to give credit to my mom. I have to talk about my mom here in all of this because she's the one who technically owns the business. The business is in her name. Everything else she lets me deal with. I deal with all of it, right? But she has always been that rock that if there's a question that I have about our insurance policy, or a question that I have about some legal document, I'm like, mom, I need help with this. And she has always been that person that's in my corner, no matter what, to help me understand. She was in insurance for her whole career. And so she's used to reading policy documents and stuff like that. So she is my rock. And though I have grown and I see how much I can do now, I love that my mom is still there with me, helping me kind of get through it. It's the two of us just like making it work. Amazing.
SPEAKER_01Does she come into the shop at all?
SPEAKER_00Rarely. Um, she enjoys gardening and she enjoys time with her granddaughter, my daughter. So that's her like main focus, which is perfect. To be perfectly honest, in secret, we kind of butt heads when we're in the shop. And she knows that. So it's not actually a secret because she says this should be this way and this should be this way. And I have to explain why it doesn't necessarily work that way in the leather working trade and blah, blah, blah. And she knows that now, and that's fine. So it's all good. But yeah, she she is a huge part of Tundra, even though she's not in the shop and she's not working on Tundra stuff. She and my dad were such a big team that without her, they wouldn't like Tundra wouldn't be here. My dad was like, I think I want to do this, I think I want to buy out that tandy location in 1991. I want to do this and I want to make this my career. And my mom was like, Okay, like let's remortgage our house so we can buy this building. And, you know, I think without her continued support and honestly, like understanding of all of it, I don't think Tundra would be anywhere where it is right now.
SPEAKER_01Wow. Well, and I mean buying the building, and like you said, if she was insurance too, that that helps a lot.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01She would bring a lot of good knowledge on. Top of being your mom.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly. On top of being my mom.
SPEAKER_01I love it. Oh, that's great. That's great. Okay, so before we wrap up, what's the one thing you want every listener to walk away with today?
SPEAKER_00Who that is also a good question. I want everyone to know that they can just come in. I think people are like, oh, like, do you have to do you have to book a time? And I don't want to bug you if you're working, and I don't want to, and I just want people to know that we just want them to come in. We want them to, even if they don't buy anything, I just want to come and talk to you and be like, here's what we make, here's what we can offer. Like, if anyone has any questions, I just want them to reach out. We're very approachable. Everything is really open. And I don't know, I want my dad's legacy to continue on. So I want people to come in and chat with me about leather and you know, commission a custom piece and chat about all the options they can have. And we're very open that way. So yeah, I want people to just come in and chat with me.
SPEAKER_01Well, you I have been shocked. So how long I think we have I have been following you the past maybe two years, if I had to ballpark it. And I was I'm always shocked at these customs that you've done, like the paint palettes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they were amazing. It's been huge. Some of these things have been really, really big for us, and I will never forget them. And yes, yeah. So custom work is something we can do. We usually do small batch runs, which is very important to not take on anything larger than we're able to accommodate. But yeah, like doing small runs of things for people is really fun for us. I love it.
SPEAKER_01So I mean, so just for the listener, if they haven't seen your Instagram, the the paint palettes that you had done. So they were, were they mini size or are they a regular size?
SPEAKER_00So there were a couple different ones. So the the recent ones that we made, they were large size, and we did large and medium. The previous run we had some tiny mini ones, um, but they were made for Beam Paints and Martha Mae. Martha May is out of the States, and Beam Paints is a local-ish paintmaker. They're in Manitoulin Island, an indigenous paintmaker who uses natural products to make all of their paints. Their paints are beautiful, by the way, so definitely check them out too. Um, but yeah, Martha Mae and Beam Paints wanted to do another run. They use natural veg, which is a type of leather, and it'll get like painted and marked, and it's just gonna look gorgeous with all the paints over time. It was based on the idea, the palette, um, on the idea of Georgia O'Keefe and her sort of like palette of really natural rustic colors, and then that rustic case. And it was just it was one of the biggest projects we've taken on in a very long time, and maybe too big, but it was so fun. And I love that I see them, like that people tag us in them and I can see them, and it's just so cool to see something that you actually had a hand in making out there in the world, being enjoyed by people. It's amazing.
SPEAKER_01Beautiful, and you've done some beautiful purses as well in collabs with other businesses I've seen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. Lately, we've been working a lot with Lulu and Levine um on Lock Street to help them with small zippered pouches and small snap pouches and stuff like that. But yeah, I'm always open to a collab. I love that.
SPEAKER_01Beautiful. So, what do you have on the go right now at Tundra? And is there anything coming up that you'd like the listeners to know about?
SPEAKER_00What do we have on the go? Sean always has a list of probably like 20 things that he's working on. Most recently, we worked with TD Coliseum to make some artists' gifts for them, which was very, very fun. So yeah, that's that was like recently. And right now we're just working our way through the custom order list and like getting everyone their custom pieces. Um, a messenger bag. Last week, Sean was just working on a knife sheath. So all kinds of like little pieces here and there. Yeah, we're busy. We're busy, that's for sure. But yeah, it doesn't mean we can't take on more.
SPEAKER_01No, for sure. And then you also have your classes, so people can always sign up for your classes.
SPEAKER_00Totally. So that is something that I guess is important to talk about too. So the classes are always in two-month increments. So right now we just launched May and June, and it's pretty much sold out. They do sell out pretty quickly. So at the end of June, we'll launch July and August. So if there's anyone that is interested in taking a class, definitely follow us on Instagram or check out our mailing list, which is accessible through our um website. But yeah, you can get updated information on all of the classes and when they're gonna launch, and you just kind of have to be like on it if you want a class.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. And for Father's Day gifts, what will you have?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we're working on it. We're just we're powering up for Mother's Day, and then after that, we'll get into Father's Day. And I'm really hoping that people know they can come in and get belts, they can get wallets, we've got a lot of passport cases, and we're gonna gear up to make some more golf gear, which we did a bunch of last year.
SPEAKER_01Okay, cool. Yeah, I love it. What is your Instagram handle so we can find you? It is at tundra leather.
SPEAKER_00And your email? Info at tundra leather.ca.
SPEAKER_01Perfect. And our last question is how do you want to be remembered for in our community?
SPEAKER_00Oh, I think the biggest thing about tundra leather is that we're like knowledgeable hands-on. So I want people to know that we're not like gatekeepers, we're not here to hide the leatherworking information. And I think that is something that I learned from my dad. We're here to spread the love of leatherworking. And if you come in and ask me a question, I'm not gonna be like, no, you have to take a class. I'm gonna be like, here's a tip, here's a trick, here's a thing. You know, like not everything has to be buy all the tools right now to be a leather worker. There are tricks, there are ways, there are things that we can help you with so that you can get into it at your own pace. I just want people to know that, yeah, we're a very hands-on shop and we're here to help you with it. That's what I say to everyone. If you have any questions on the project you're working on, email us. Like we're not, we're not here to watch you struggle. We're here to help you succeed in your project.
SPEAKER_01Oh, definitely. Well, thank you, Christy, for taking the time to come on. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me. It's been great talking with you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you too. Thank you so much.
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