Meena ally:Almost Every Woman Makes This MISTAKE… Without Knowing! ||EP 78

Meena Ally steps in and lets us into her world.
An award-winning journalist, a respected cultural voice, and someone who’s always moved with purpose and authenticity.
Sean sits down with her as she breaks down her journey , the evolution of mainstream media, stepping into the spotlight, confidence behind the mic, fashion as expression, faith, love, commitment, and mental health.
We spoke on growth, ambition, the dreams she’s chasing, to the question everyone avoids
"Why Is ‘What Do You Bring to the Table?’ Offending So Many Women?”

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Filmed by: Rocky the mutator ,Given & jordan
Edited by : sean81jax

Chapters;
00:00 Trailer
01:40 Intro
04:28 What Meena ally finds attractive
06:50 2025 RECAP
09:48 Who is Meena ally
13:56 Mainstream Today compared to how Meena started
19:39 How Meena ally navigates being on Stage
22:10 Meena ally's relationship with God
27:40 Meena ally's Acting carrer
33:53 The fear of commitment 
41:41 Making Money as a Creator
44:28 What Samira likes doing in her free time
46:19 Meena ally's Love for a Private life
48:31 Tzee or Not Tzee (NT game)
55:01 Being a Workcoholic
58:25 After the Break
01:03:07 Mumama ya Harrier
01:07:12 The No Trolling Ouestions
01:33:08 Outro & Shout outs

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:01

We have this mistake of thinking that it's all about the man. As a woman, what are you bringing to the table? Can you build this man? See, tengeneze ma ishamboya no canaka mama fanikyo. Tengeneza mafanikio ye. One person I know crush nine and mama harry.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

What are we hearing out there?

SPEAKER_05 0:28

This is the first time I could do that. Really? This is the first time I can say the F-word in a microphone.

SPEAKER_02 0:33

Welcome to the No Trolling Podcast.

SPEAKER_05 0:34

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Nope. No trolling. We ain't trolling, y'all. Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

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SPEAKER_00 1:14

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SPEAKER_06 1:40

Literally, we're rolling. You're joking, right? Yeah, we've been rolling.

SPEAKER_05 1:45

We have?

SPEAKER_06 1:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:48

I was just looking at this nigga waiting to start. So that's why. I'll just blur that.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

I'll just blur that. It's okay. It's podcasting. Welcome to the podcasting world.

SPEAKER_05 2:05

I know, but at least say we're rolling.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

We've been I'm just saying we're rolling.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

No, you say tell everybody to put their phone off. That's it. That was the last word you said. Next thing I know, I'm on camera.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

Mina Ali, welcome to the podcast.

SPEAKER_05 2:18

Thank you, Sean.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

How are you feeling today?

SPEAKER_05 2:20

I'm feeling alright.

SPEAKER_03 2:22

Mina, um do you believe in the concept of like beauty and ugly? Like there's there's beauty and there's ugly.

SPEAKER_05 2:32

I don't know, do you?

SPEAKER_03 2:34

I feel like for me, it's more so like beauty is in the hands of the beholder.

SPEAKER_05 2:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:43

Yeah, I do kind of feel the same way. I feel like beauty is not in it's not only seen by the eye, honestly.

SPEAKER_06 2:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:52

That's realistic, because how many guys do you know who are really, really good looking but married to women who are not as good looking as you'd expect. Yeah. You know, and you'd be like, not me, but like out here, people talk about ah, you learn.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:13

So, you understand? And then they'll be so in love with them, and vice versa. And now Pakonamona, we're um to mzuri, so I really feel like beauty is more than just the appearance, it's really the inside. But we don't want to accept that yet. Because we're like, uh, we're natural much, I'm gonna bad die. That's what we say, right? But at the end of the day, I feel like it's it's more than just the outlook, really. People fall in love with how people are inside, and you can be beautiful inside and outside. And I feel like it's a combination of both of them. Physical attraction is not really uh like the the standard this beauty.

SPEAKER_03 3:59

The high standard, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:01

Yes, yes. And then I I know people that I would find not attractive, but be around people that feel like these people are really, really attractive.

SPEAKER_06 4:09

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 4:12

I feel like everybody is pretty for someone. Yeah, you know, everybody's good looking for someone. If somebody's not good looking for you, it's because they're good looking for someone else. So you know what? If they don't find you attractive now, don't worry.

SPEAKER_03 4:23

Somebody in this world is gonna find you attractive.

SPEAKER_05 4:25

Meant to find you attractive.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

What do you think attracts you the most? Like when you like things that attract you.

SPEAKER_05 4:34

Oh, what's uh well, I'm attracted by so many things. It's a combination of a lot of things. What's that word you use?

SPEAKER_03 4:41

Sap sexual? I am ah smart niggas.

SPEAKER_05 4:45

Yes, I like I like I like a good conversation. Absolutely, right? I like to talk to someone that stimulates my uh intelligence. Not that I'm very intelligent, but like someone who would, you know, teaches me something, hears me out. And someone we just you just feel like a wire in your brain that connects and it's just like a sss Oh yeah, it's you know, it's a stimulating conversation. I like to hear about people, I like to know where they come from, I like to know what they're uh afraid of. I like to understand vulnerability, vulnerability, exactly. I like that, and I like good looks are something. Good looks are something for sure. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Let's not be like let's not camp right now and act like being pretty is not like a fancy.

SPEAKER_05 5:32

No, good looks are something, definitely. But uh brains are mostly important for me because yeah, I I really do find you attractive from your brains. Like I could have a conversation with someone and find them attractive because of how they talk, how they keep themselves and how they act. And for me, it's a it's a mixture of a lot of things. It's also um sometimes it's also uh past, a similar past. Yeah, not uh necessarily a similar past, but like similar stories. Like you've had to go through that, I had to go through that as well. And so it feels like we just kind of connect COVID because we know how how the world goes, and uh that is also I like someone ambitious, I like someone who's got something to do. I don't I really can't handle someone that's not got something to do. Yeah, I can I can try, but I can only try.

SPEAKER_06 6:25

Yeah, really.

SPEAKER_05 6:27

Yeah, I like someone that's that's trying, you know. They don't gotta be rich, they don't have to be rich, they don't have to have it all, they don't have to have it figured out, but they have to try, they have to keep trying. I always have to see them trying because that motivates me as well. But if you're not if you're just chilling, nah, that's not possible, guys.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

My bad. First of all, happy holidays, guys. Yeah, by the time you guys see this, is we we're coming close to the year, and it's almost New Year's! Yeah, so Merry Christmas and a happy new year, guys.

SPEAKER_05 7:03

Merry belated Christmas, guys.

SPEAKER_03 7:06

How was your year, Mina?

SPEAKER_05 7:09

My year was mixed feelings. It was yes, it was good, it was bad, it was risky, it was a lot of decisions.

SPEAKER_03 7:20

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 7:21

Yeah, I made a lot of decisions this year. Uh right. I went I went through something I'd never gone through. Uh well, I have, but then this year was kind of different. Yeah, and uh, it was just another year, but it was uh also a very successful year. Yeah, it was uh the year I had the opportunity to interview the president. Wow, yeah, and being the only basically uh person or young person in in youth and like in the time and shows to ever do that.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Yeah, how how was that though? How was that? That was good.

SPEAKER_05 7:59

That was good, yeah. It was short, basically, it was five minutes.

SPEAKER_03 8:02

Whoa, it was only okay, and do you remember the whole conversation?

SPEAKER_05 8:08

Yeah, yeah, I kind of do not all of it, but like I kind of do, yeah. Uh we spoke about you know the coming elections, how how she's prepared, and obviously we spoke about I wouldn't want to get into that as much, but like, yeah, it what you tell young girls that want to be president or something like that along those lines. Yeah, so yeah, I interviewed the president for the first time. I won multiple awards. Yeah, congratulations, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

We just won the best female female V uh TV presenter. Personality. Yes. Oh yeah, yeah, personality. Congratulate. It was yesterday.

SPEAKER_05 8:45

It was yesterday.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

The day before yesterday.

SPEAKER_05 8:47

It was the day before yesterday. Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

I saw you partying in the studio, like throwing your award out.

SPEAKER_05 8:52

Yeah, yeah. That was yeah, that's my team, man. And yeah, so I won a couple of awards, and I hosted Simba Day this year for the first time. I'm a Simba fan. I've been a Simba fan since childhood. And this year I got the opportunity to host Simba Day, and I expected it to be like, I just like I'm just gonna put my effort and try and do my best, but it turned out to be a success story. Yes, because next morning I woke up to a lot of TikToks with my voice.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

You're me.

SPEAKER_05 9:27

Yes, yeah, and I became like it became like a really big thing, and yeah, I I gained a lot of recognition from that, yeah, and a lot of fan like new sort of fan base, yeah, which is in the sports side, and I'm not usually on sports, but that was good. That was one of the biggest highlights of my year.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Beautiful, guys. My bad, first of all. I know she doesn't need no introduction, but I'ma do it anyway. In the studio today, we got the beautiful Mina Ali, who is a public figure, award-winning journalist, a cultural voice, and someone who's never been afraid to stand in our truth. Because that's what I've seen in you. Like you always like up and just like you say what's on your mind.

SPEAKER_05 10:16

Yeah. And I face it like it is. I don't run away from things. I don't run away from problems.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

That's what makes you an award-winning.

SPEAKER_05 10:23

Thank you. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I know it's late, but I know you know who this guy is. He doesn't need any introduction, but I'm gonna do it anyway. This is one of the best podcasters I've ever met. He's very professional. He is awesome, guys. Imagine he gets to know his people before he invites them to the studio, right? He's taking time to actually talk to me before this so he can get to know me. He's so I've never seen someone so invested in what they do. He's so passionate about what he does. Recently, we had a conversation about his trip to Kenya. He was so happy. He started telling me about all these guys that I knew nothing about and was not interested at all. He was so passionate about it that I had to listen. Well, he goes, Do you know in Kenya I made this podcaster, that podcaster? It was really nice. Listen, Mina, you know what? I'm gonna be really big. This is gonna be really huge. And he's very ambitious, and I know for a fact that within a couple of years, this guy's gonna be the biggest thing we have in the podcasting industry, and whatever he puts his hands on. So, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome you did a better introduction than me.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

What?

SPEAKER_06 11:40

Literally taking over the show. Don't interviewer host. What? Don't interview a host. Wow, that was beautiful. Thank you very much, Mina.

SPEAKER_05 11:47

I mean it. I mean it. Thank you. Yes, I mean it. You're very ambitious, you're so dedicated to this thing, you're so into it. Listen, if you want to be successful in something, you've got to be, you've got to love it like it's your woman, you know I mean like it's your lover or something. That's you. You're so all about this thing, you're so all about what you believe in it, you're so all about changing history and becoming something, not just for yourself, but for the people behind you. And that's very beautiful to watch. You have so much passion. This is all you talk about, you know? And yeah, may God bless you, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 12:24

Thank you very much, Vina. That means a lot. And shout out to the no trollers. No trollers are the names of our audience in here. No trollers.

SPEAKER_05 12:30

No trollers, okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

So happy holidays, no trollers. And today we have an amazing episode prepared for you guys. I'm pretty sure y'all are gonna enjoy, sit back, enjoy, get some popcorn, put your feet in the table, and enjoy the 4K quality on fucking YouTube. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 12:46

You said fucking in your yeah, we can curse you. We can curse, yes. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I didn't know you can do that. Listen, I'm on radio, we don't curse.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

Yeah, I know, I know. I tried radio for a few for a year and it was hard. I fuck!

SPEAKER_07 13:03

What is it?

SPEAKER_05 13:04

Hard yeah, it was it was it was hard. It was hard. It was fucking hard. You can't say me back on a microphone. This is the first time I can do that. Really? It's the first time I can say the F-word in a microphone.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Welcome to the Natural Park and Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 13:21

Thank you. Okay, also can you also swear like other in sway?

SPEAKER_03 13:25

Okay, we don't we don't swear in Swahili. When you swear in Swahili.

SPEAKER_05 13:28

But no, but like other in swears. Okay. Bitch!

unknown 13:32

Bitch!

SPEAKER_02 13:36

Oh my god, that was fun. Hold on. Okay, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 13:41

They allowed me to swear, guys! Leave me, but no respect, nothing, you can swear!

SPEAKER_03 13:50

Okay, okay, meaning. Let's be serious, let's be serious, let's be serious, let's be serious. Honestly, what do you how how would you describe mainstream media today compared to how you started?

SPEAKER_05 14:01

I think mainstream media has a different meaning.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:04

You know, by the time I started, there was already social media. It was called new media. Oh. Right, yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:10

Okay. Oh, so it was upcoming at the time.

SPEAKER_05 14:12

It was upcoming. Social media was upcoming. Like right now, it's like one of the main things, right? I feel like media industry is a whole different picture. Before, uh a TV station didn't have to have a social media or social network page, you know, but right now that's a must. Uh, they didn't have to recognize uh creating, they didn't have to uh like to create content for social media, yeah. But now they do. They didn't have to create content based on what's going on on social media, but now we have to. And also uh we could we all we could do was basically like if we wanted to get Vox Pops, we had to get on the streets and ask people, you know, what do you think about this? What do you think? But right now you could literally just post a question and say what do you think about this and people would answer. So I feel like media in this era, it's uh changed for the better, but there's also consequences. Although I I like I like that technology is taking over, and I feel like you you'd never really make it if you say uh if you ignore technology, absolutely you've got to adapt to it, you've got to take it in. I feel like life is easier, even for artists. Now you can you know have your bre uh breakthrough songs through social media. You can be a TikTok artist, you can even AI has music.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Yeah, do you have you have you seen the that girl so dangerous on TikTok?

SPEAKER_05 15:40

No.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

Are you on TikTok?

SPEAKER_06 15:41

I um really?

SPEAKER_05 15:43

You haven't seen that? No, because yeah, at some point, listen, okay, listen, hear me out. Hear me out. All right. I have a lot of videos and photos in my phone. Okay. Okay. At times when I really need to take important photos, my photos, my phone is full, right? And the first application I did just TikTok and then I downloaded it after a few days. So sometimes I miss this trend.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

I usually buy the cloud storage thing.

SPEAKER_05 16:11

I do know, yeah. I tried that, I don't, it didn't work out for me. Anyway, I do know though that there's a song, there's a gospel song that I actually like, which is AI in Swahili. Oh. And it's getting its numbers, it's trending right now.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

I think I saw a dude talking about it on TikTok, but I didn't know the gospel, so I didn't pay my own.

SPEAKER_05 16:32

It's called uh money, naimani, shaka. Ule we bought you not trendy like in the AI. So my combolelo, Natamani.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_05 16:53

No, it does.

SPEAKER_03 16:54

When I think of something I've got to remember, remember the situation you told me on the phone that happened on the clouds. You were telling your friends that you saw something and didn't believe it and you couldn't find it.

SPEAKER_05 17:04

And then I had to. And then I I worked so hard to find it. No, that's it. I I have to find it. Listen. Listen, wait, I have to. No, it's not good. It's on YouTube. It's uh what are they called? Did I not put it on my thingy thingy? Wanna itwanani, barakanini, wale, yamani mungwang. It's on YouTube. Something voice.

SPEAKER_03 17:39

You're not gonna find it now.

SPEAKER_05 17:43

I have to.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

You sound like you have that thing. What's it called? ADHD?

SPEAKER_05 17:50

No, exactly, but like listen, I'm not gonna be able to rest until I do. Voice Ninwa. Voice of hope.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

Voice of hope.

SPEAKER_05 18:02

Hallelujah. There we go. There we go. Wait, there's an wait, hold up. There's an skip.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 18:22

I think that's a lot of people. I am. I am Muslim. I am I am Asalam alaykum mileley Mina. What? Asalam alaykum milele mina.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

Nakumali, nakumai. Mina, you've been on multiple stages. Yes, I have. Do you have a trick that you do like to hop on stage so you can you can just be comfortable and dominate it?

SPEAKER_05 19:50

I don't have a trick. I do know that it's natural to feel to like get a bit scared. Yeah, absolutely. And so I'm not scared of being scared. Like, I do know it's natural. I did watch, I I watched uh something that Lil Wayne did uh like an interview or something a couple of years ago where they asked him if he ever gets nervous. Yeah. And he said you all you never stop getting nervous, you always get nervous. So I I figured that if Lil Wayne, the legend, gets nervous, who am I not to? Yeah. And it does it's not all the time, to be honest, but I do get nervous from time to time when I get on stage, depending on the pressure of the particular show, the events, what I have to do. Uh and uh but as soon as it's like three seconds.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

Yeah, it just you fit in.

SPEAKER_05 20:40

It takes over. My my own spirit or whatever just kind of takes over, and then I feel okay, but that's not all the time. Yeah. Usually before I get on any stage, before I get on any interview, before I get on anything that's got something to do with my job, I have I pray. I pray quite a lot. And I would always like do a little prayer before I get on stage, do a little prayer before I do something. And then it's just it's easier. I feel like I tackle the world easier with a with the prayer because that's really my protection, honestly. And uh gives you hope. It gives me hope. It makes me believe it's possible. And when I pray, it's like I'm more I know I'm gonna kill it. I know I'm gonna do well when I pray. I'm assured of whatever it is. Nice. It's like something I can't go without. So if I'm gonna talk to someone, if I'm talking to someone, I'm sitting with someone about something really hard, I'm gonna pray about it before. If I'm getting on a stage, I'm gonna pray about it before. And every time I leave, I'll be like, I know that was you, God. I know that was you because you made it easier than it could have been with, you know, if I didn't talk to you. So I'm always talking to God. And that kind of makes it easier to an extent. In a in a couple of couple of days ago, I haven't I haven't really felt nervous at all. Even on Simba Day, I was expecting. to be really nervous but I wasn't because I was praying throughout the way and as soon as I got there it was just smooth. Yeah. You know whenever I talk about uh when whenever we talk about the conversations about like uh spirituality religion and being religious you know because personally um I'm working on my relationship with God you know and I want I wanted I want I want to know when did your when did you start focusing on building your relationship with God Yeah I feel like we're all working on our relationship with God I feel like God is greater than anything and so you as a human you can't really have him figured out you can only rely on him and just hope for the best and just hope for the best and when I was growing up I grew up in a in a in a religious home right and I learned African households are always religious and I learned about prayer it was important to pray it was a must at some point yeah you know you'd because Muslims uh we take um ablution chwa uzu before prayers so uh one way to know someone named is to touch their head right so uh uzu taking ablution that's what it's called I believe yeah Unaosha before you pray yeah yeah okay I've seen that so as a Muslim that's that's how it goes down right so when we were little um nyumbani uta kuta sasa unambio well mesali before hujiala m chana oh mes ali yes ni mes ali and let a kitra so they'll touch your head and then there's a little bit of water then they'll know you actually prayed. Oh because you washed your hair yes so at some point it was a must to pray when I was growing up okay and I knew that it was important that I pray. But I feel like after I grew up I learned that it it was it wasn't just uh I I learned that I was happy that these people that you know raised me taught me this because when I grew up when I was young I didn't know I needed prayers I just prayed because I had to yeah but when I grew up I understood why I had to learn prayers I understood why I needed them. And at some point of my life of course I would I would still pray you know but I didn't really deeply understand the importance of it youth fresh m racambidia po chapua style coming like it should when I grew up uh I got I there was a time when I went through something really really tough and I really had no way out at all like I didn't know who to talk to I had people I just didn't know how to word it out right and I didn't know how to solve it I didn't know how to fix it. So I said you know what I'm I'm just gonna pray about it. And I prayed the first prayer and it led me to my second it led me to my third it led me to my fourth. In the end it led me to a whole year of not quitting prayer at all. Yes became a habit now it became a habit and that's when I became I'm not as close to to my God I'm still learning and exploring the relationship but after that I just feel like it became a habit and I feel like life became easier I was more able to figure out what I want I was more able to to stand with confidence in rooms where I couldn't before I was more able to say no. I had more confidence in myself I uh I didn't rely on a human like you tell me this is not possible and I'll look you in the face and go pray about it and come back and say oh you know I did it you know nothing is impossible. Life just became easier and I feel like you I don't know I'm just grateful to be African I'm grateful to be from homes that believed in God. I'm grateful to be from homes that you know insisted we pray that insisted young boys and girls went to church or you know prayed uh went to went to the mosques I'm just grateful because if I don't have faith I literally do not have anything this is one thing that holds me absolutely like when when it when it actually comes down to it like I I can't sit here and say I don't believe in God like if you're an African like actually if you're a Tanzanian like the way we grew up and say I don't believe in God people will be shocked be like who like are you for real?

SPEAKER_03 26:25

Are you for real?

SPEAKER_05 26:26

Yeah like I feel like that's also a red flag because like to me at least when when I'm talking to somebody they're like I don't believe in God I'll be like whoa okay yeah okay if you're from Tanzania if you're from other countries I don't know how you grew up yeah I can't really judge you from that but if you're from Tanzania like it's like it's but there are people like that there are people who are agnostic in intelligence unless I talk to you more often I'll I'll get to understand you. But from the get-go I'll I'll kind of like oh damn I gotta be you know yeah although no disrespect honestly I do know that there are people that are are on journeys to figure it out no judgment actually yeah I know some people their own journeys to figure it out eventually they will and I pray that they do because I am telling you when it all fails and you believe in God you have something to run to you have someone to run to and you you do need it. You do need it you do need that faith you do need someone to kneel on and say help me and you actually see that life changes you don't you know so do you remember the very first time you walk on a stage in school yeah in primary school I walked in on on a stage as an actress I didn't even want to play yeah I didn't even want to play that play I know you're an actor too by the way yeah I am now but it was never like uh like a dream thing I I always knew I wanted to be a journalist I just never knew I would be an actress as well but when I was in grade seven I was really quiet and apparently my teacher was picking up people to do to do like a like a scene like yeah acting for family day or parents day or whatever. Oh yeah right and then I was sitting there really quietly and then they had a character of a girl that's really quiet. So he figured it would be easy if it was just me. So it was just like you gotta act today. Yeah just you know it wasn't much of a job I just had to be a very kind quiet girl yeah and at that point I used to be quiet not not so quiet but I used to be closed off when I was growing up I used to be like conserved sort of yeah do you enjoy acting though? I do I love it I love it because it challenges me makes me learn you know with media it's not that I know everything or whatever but with media it's just it's home you know I feel like this person talking to you or uh the Mina that's you know on a microphone or on television that's that's supposed to be me like that's supposed to really really be me like in reality yeah because in reality it's not like that it's it's a bit boring right but I like her really really really like it's it's so natural I don't ever feel like I'm hosting I feel like I'm just being myself yeah and it's something that I am assured of I'm I always feel like I've mastered this and so acting is that one thing I feel like I haven't mastered and it challenges me.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

It's like you're you're you're tapping into new skill sets.

SPEAKER_05 29:37

Yes and it's challenging me and I like the fact that it is and if uh low key I'm also doing some a little bit of acting and google keep doing it yeah and the thing is what I like about it so far is like um I I tend to play somebody else that's not me and it's an excuse to be obnoxious or be like make some dumb characters to you though oh yeah it does in 2020 I played a uh a film for uh for ASM TV it was called Nyumbe it was basically about Ramadan and like how people act basically when Ramadan comes you know if they don't wear in a certain way that now they want to pretend they wear correctly if they're living with the boyfriends now they want to you know move out and be like I'm praying this month you know what I'm saying uh so we we did that series and I was playing a character called oh it was like Sikitu and Sikitu was a bit yeah Sikitu was a my character was a bit like she was the reason why the whole house was fighting every single day Nyumbakupanga yeah Sikitu would get out every morning and cause chaos with everyone yes we were filming this before Ramadan and then some parts of it in Ramadan right I became so chaotic at some point I believed I was Sikito because I got so into the role to an extent I actually fought someone who's really really bigger than me because I thought I was Sikito. I'm actually being a Ali and I can't fight for nothing bruv right because in my head right that girl I was playing she was fighting everybody but they were letting me fight because it wasn't really it was in the script right and then one day she I started fighting and that's not even me because it's like the character just got gets to you at some point like the more you do it the more you just kind of you feel like you feel that the character which is good because you get to live so many lives within one did you how did you get into like into character with uh Sikitu Sikitu I don't know the first days were it was really me now trying to be Sikitu but as soon as I kept every time I kept filming I just started feeling like I was there like a like a viral line yes there is a viral line okay okay which one I think it was so Sikitu was telling her boyfriend Al kwanam Pompea something like that. It was like Alkonbea That's how Sikitu talks yes and she's like she said Hasani Aroqua and this challenge is very viral because there was even kids doing this I'll show you maybe when we head out there was even kids doing that Hasan that was Sikito that's right yeah that's kind of what I remember it's it's a while back but yeah oh man damn and what do you think what did you what what was your biggest take from acting as Sikito like what did you learn from the whole experience of doing this I loved Sikitu I wanted another season of Nyumbe I kept calling my uh our producer and telling him stupid for the next like three years. And it was like yeah I heard that last year I kept calling him telling him do you know how many messages I get about people wanting Nyumbe to come back on a different season you because Azam kept repeating it and it was us so we did come up he did come up with another show though not a continuation from Nyumbe it was called Nazi Bubu. Nazi Bubu also kind of did well which I acted in as well but I wanted Nyumbe back. Hatibu Madudu if you're listening my producer please bring Nyumbe back because I loved Sikito okay but yeah my take on on I don't know I'm just happy I could people could learn from that and I'm happy I I I got to explore that world and and just basically just get to live different lives within one life. I think that's the best thing about acting you sort of get to live it right like if you're acting it I've never feared commitment before like committing to certain something yeah to the wrong people committing to the wrong people committing to something I know I I don't want to sometimes I get pressured to commit because I feel like if I say no this person's not gonna feel good yeah like I just have to do this because I have to make this person feel good. Oh my god the people pleasing mentality I know we've always been victims of like I've been a victim of that for years meaning why are you pleasing people sure and the thing is I I always felt like the thing is it came it came because I didn't know what I was worth you know for the longest time I be I I thought I was I should be nice to get around you know of course you should be nice person always be a nice person guys don't get me wrong but it was more so like I felt like I I needed to be nice to get respected but in in real sense you just have to believe in yourself and work hard to get the respect you need because trust me everybody is in it for their own like if you expect people to just love you for just you mean uh come on it's not possible you've gotta be fake yeah not everyone if everyone loves you you're fake yeah because you're not putting out your real self in front of people you're not authentic yeah right and and they love you maybe because they don't see the other side of you I feel like you've gotta be vulnerable at some point you've got to let people see you you know exactly and even in the world of uh content creation and fame and and you know media and whatever being a celebrity you really have to be authentic if you're a musician you've gotta be authentic in the music that you write in the way that you sing it people have got to relate to your actual feelings and uh when you're popular when you am to an end and they try to uh create a certain image yeah for themselves yeah yeah it's just it's stressful honestly people can love you for just being yourself because you're a reflection of a lot of people out there you know and I feel like it's so important to just be yourself if love it or or hate it people are gonna love it or not but they're not meant to love it all of them I mean who I mean you know we talk about God and his greatness and what he's done to us. Still you hear that there are people that are atheists the people that don't believe in him you know so who are you to be believed in by everyone it's not possible to be loved by everyone and the thing one thing that helped me to deal with it was changing the people surrounding myself with that's good.

SPEAKER_03 36:30

So so the minute I did that you know I the the negative energy you know when you surround yourself with a bad crowd even your work ethic gets affected your mentality the way you value yourself gets affected. You know what I'm saying? So the minute I changed that circle it made me have more value in myself I became a little bit selfish.

SPEAKER_05 36:51

I cared about myself now now for the first time this year Mina I put myself first yeah you know I I put myself first I was like even like issues at home I was like no I have to focus on me so I can help the people I love because if I'm messed up how am I gonna help other people I think I think what you just said right now Sean that's um that's the best way to look at things listen if you really want to help people around you help yourself yeah right because you're you're not gonna help people if you're broke you're not gonna help people if you're if you're a a stupid version uh of a person you're not gonna help people if you're out here being whatever it is that's that's messed up you we can say fuck that's fucked up right uh so if you really want to help people and uh around you is to really just work on yourself first. Yes. As soon as you're on on on a straight line then it's easier to put more people into it. But it it's not right to be messed up because you're helping people to or to be messed up because your mom mom needs some food you know and so you're willing to do everything to just look like you're the breadwinner of the family but not actually be and it's really important to be and not look like you're being you get most people we're in a generation where we want to look like it you know we want to pose in good cam good cameras and good cars and do whatever we can do or do whatever it takes to get a brand new phone and and and a and a ride and whatever just so we can look like success. Do not look like success. Be successful you get what I mean like with me I I really want financial freedom so bad and I'm working on that and that's uh that's the one thing I really want more than showing off more than showing that I've got uh financial freedom I actually want to have it you get I mean that's all there's life that's happening outside of what people are showcasing and it would have been easier if you just showcased yourself because we we would be able to learn and we'll be able to really see what it's about you get what I mean with you but yes resonate with you like in you see a lot of young girls a lot of young boys watching social media you know before a person posted one photo or two photos they took 70 of them and picked two right but you want to compare your reality with two picked photos out of 70 right this person took 70 photos and 68 of them were ugly they posted two those are the best shots out of 70 but you're here comparing your reality look they're so pretty and I'm so ugly. You're comparing your actual reality with two photos that are the best photos out of 70. That's not it listen it's not right to get pressured by social media it's not right to look at people and envy and want it. If you look at people and get inspired and go get it that's good. But if you're getting the wrong message you know it it it would shock you Sean how many young girls are willing to do anything and everything right I've seen I've seen stuff right yeah I've seen people telling me about you know some people be like uh uh I'll give you anything I'll do anything you want me to do you get if you're uh a girl you get to a point where you can say to a man or if you're a guy right now also who can say to someone I will do anything just give me this trust me we brandyako iko ko nyematope ina ogerea new meosa uko kwenat listen do not give yourself worth for nothing you can trust me that if you put in work to it it does actually help and it has helped a lot of people me being one of them listen there are people that are authentic that really put in the work they put in the prayer they put in the really hard work they put in some strong skin tough skin they've been told of millions of times but decided to believe the two times that they actually believed they were better or they were better than whatever they were hearing. You get what I mean so at the end of the day please young girls young boys okay it is fucking possible you can actually become whatever the fuck you want to become absolutely all these cars you see on social media some of them watch wanakodisha wanna ping a picture wanakwane shall we mngo you get what I mean focus konyekwanekana unamafanikio focus konyekuanayo mafani kio that's the real flex my guy picture when getting to kimalizo nondokazako name is a kuakum ku and get it the right way you know when I made my first money I felt so good yo exactly I'm telling you feeling your jingo cini and be banned because I don't sure now remember I was telling my dad I remember the first time I did a like a content gig the kafata like it I posted in my my me and my brothers have a group chat I posted like the cash in the bed and come on come on exactly that's the feeling the feeling that's the feeling listen it feels really good when you made your own success yes when you did it the right way it feels really really good okay don't sell yourself don't sell your soul don't sell your spirit I don't know and you see who to fall yeah just don't do it it's not worth it because a babu you might get your gari your peachy too kamuda who but when you sleep at night my guy and you think that you had to mmm on a guy you don't like on someone you don't I don't know man it gives you nightmares man listen unaweza kupata munyewe anza ulip mku usi tengeneze ma isha mbaya na onekana kama mafanikio tengeneza mafanikio yenyewe acho pumbumbavanako ymtandao sio viote vikohivio watu wana piga picha waku neshe wea ukenia una feri una ingiambini una kosti ważaziwaku wanza kupita jani wana lia kwasabu mengewima group ya nyabu wwenzako lwana kula unga forfan kosabu kuwa wanahinga ukainga u snifu leo tuna tenia tuba staffutumam nini menda mnini unenda kuita foodusa idea wwazasom mench pakas nichu kikum pakasina salangap nanda tray saba nanda tali salva mkunakusni fish makingombause five Any kaza manango am nakuruni nyumbani kaza, get that damn money. Work on yourself, work on things you can get. Get that halal money. Trust me, it feels good. Success, self-made, it is possible.

SPEAKER_03 44:30

Speaking of Kutibiya India, have you seen the rise of cosmetic surgery in Dhar? Yeah. Wow, it's actually now. I think in the next couple years, it's gonna be a normal thing. Yeah, it's gonna be like, hey, is that real? Yeah. People are gonna be saying that.

SPEAKER_05 44:44

Yeah. I never noticed it though. It's my sister that's like, hey, me now who go to Zaniya to wanna wanna cosmetic surgery in a beautiful. I can't even tell.

SPEAKER_03 44:56

I can't even tell, yeah. Like, because like it's not it's not our culture where to know. I think baby else and everything when I say must you hip says, you them po hip themselves.

SPEAKER_05 45:07

Uh maybe a young da sina, by the way. I don't have time to look at my own. Listen, I'm gonna look at my ass. I don't have time to start looking. Eh, ille dimpo iko a hipo. You know what? Do whatever you want to do. Just for as long as you don't forget God, you get the you get the right money, manze. Uh, inspire dogozakuapo nyumbani and you. So a foundation Gia Mbazo Sosa wkweli because I imagine wendo ko ifum dogwakwa takwaje, uhanku kaza yani kaza, afumjini kunafitu vaja, mu kuna fitu vingi ukifamia, tuna kwatu na kucheka, badam dakidogo. Some wanzonu kingia paisuna kwangalia nona esa na potentio, badam wakamojfu na furugu na cheka. Da, fali kuja tna kura w knu pigia story. Afal kuja kwa freshika bisa, use kwasmatika misa. Use a story mku bambana. Bambana.

SPEAKER_03 45:59

Do you have a dream in Ali?

SPEAKER_05 46:00

I have so many dreams. When I was young, I I had I I just wanted to be a journalist. I just wanted to be a presenter, whatever. But as soon as I grew up and I m I managed to achieve some of my dreams, every time I dream higher and higher and higher. Like right now, I have uh I have a goal that I made this year with my best friend. Uh Frida.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

Frida Mani. Shout out to Frida, guys.

SPEAKER_05 46:27

Yeah, that we plan to do next year. It's more about giving back to the society. Wow, beautiful. Yeah, but that's something that I have most of my mind in. Uh I have a lot of dreams. I'm not gonna be able to tell them all because I I wanna have the space to dream them myself. Oh, yes. Right?

SPEAKER_01 46:44

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 46:45

Do you know I told you about these words that uh who's that white guy that raps?

SPEAKER_03 46:51

Eminem?

SPEAKER_05 46:53

No, not any no Eminem is a legend. Eminem is white, but we we don't like discussing that because we love Eminem. Listen, that guy, Jack Harlow.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

Jack Harlow, yes.

SPEAKER_05 47:04

I told you this one time about uh Jack Harlow and what he said. He said, uh, I don't want you to know who I'm dating.

SPEAKER_03 47:10

Yes! I remember that clip! Like it's my private life. Like, he said, I don't want you to know who I'm dating.

SPEAKER_05 47:16

I don't know, I don't want you to know where I've been. I don't want you to know how my room looks like how my room looks like. I want to keep some stuff to myself. To myself because if you give everything to people, they keep taking it. They feel like they have the right to take it. I live in that. I want to have some things for myself. Absolutely. I don't want to give you all because at some point you're gonna feel like it's your right and you can take it, you know? So I do have things that I feel like if I share, they might help someone, they might make someone feel better. But I do have things that are for me. That are for me. Yeah, absolutely. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

Okay, that's there's a beauty in like privacy. I feel like I value privacy to the utmost level, I mean, to the point where now it's even rare to see me as Sean, because like I'm more focused in elevating my life, elevating uh my team, my family, you know? Because that's what matters to me right now. Like I like having fun, but I just have a bigger picture in my head, and now I don't make any progress when I'm out there. I make progress when I'm in here. So, what do you think I'll focus on?

SPEAKER_05 48:27

I mean in here.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

Exactly. I want to play a game with you.

SPEAKER_05 48:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 48:32

So this game is we're going to be. Okay, hold on. Okay, so basically, I'm gonna give you statements and you tell me if this is Tanzanian vibe or not.

SPEAKER_05 48:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 48:46

Starting a side hustle without telling your friends, is it easy or not easy? Like like Tanzanian vibe or not? No, I always kini lava you.

SPEAKER_05 48:58

Hey, shorty. Shust naking.

SPEAKER_03 49:12

Number two, pulling up late but with vibes. Is that easy or not easy?

SPEAKER_05 49:16

It is very much easy. I feel like it depends what you're pulling up late for. Right? If it's for a party, you're gonna be gonna act like you're the most late. Yes, you're gonna act like you're the most turned than everybody else, because you know you're late. Yeah. But if it's for work, you act angry. If it's if it's for work or like a meeting, yeah, and you're late. Here's a secret. Okay, okay. Act angry. Oh. Why does that work? Then they don't know how to get to you. Then you're just like, you're so angry, you don't know how fucked up my date was because what happened. Like, bomb. I'm the maggy. Like then nobody questions you. That's the trick.

SPEAKER_03 49:57

Okay.

unknown 49:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:00

Woohoo!

SPEAKER_03 50:01

Okay, okay. Second one. Said I love you and didn't mean it at all. Is that easy or not?

SPEAKER_05 50:08

It's very much teasy. We do that all the time. We don't even understand what I love you means. I like you, is I love you. I adore you, is I love you. I think I might have a crush for uh on you, is I love you.

SPEAKER_03 50:19

We don't have I like you for Tanzania. Tanzania kupenda.

SPEAKER_05 50:23

Eh.

SPEAKER_03 50:26

I like you, is deck. I like you, just like you.

SPEAKER_05 50:36

Tanzania, Ikiani, I like you, I don't pana kupenda. Minauna na kupenda. Ikiani I adore you, na kupenda. Ikiani na kuputia na crash na I have a crush on you, na kupenda. Ikia tu na mvutia umeva tu vizurisku hereo na kupenda, mku da pendagila mtu. Ini na kupenda right, left center. Everywhere. Mko. Mula umeleza semana na kupendaga go na get sit upade.

SPEAKER_03 51:06

Query. Lakino nakon look for some even.

SPEAKER_05 51:09

Ah uh we are innocent. Ah, yeah. All women don't cheat. All women are loyal.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

Don't play the gender card.

SPEAKER_05 51:16

Black women don't cheat. Black women don't do nothing shady. Black women are special, beautiful, amazing, loyal.

SPEAKER_03 51:25

I agree.

SPEAKER_05 51:26

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 51:28

Alright. Ghosted someone and didn't feel bad about it. Is that easy or not easy?

SPEAKER_05 51:33

It is, but it's mostly men. What do you mean? It's mostly men ghosting people and not feeling bad about it.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

Why are you against men so much? What? What do you mean? Why are you against some men so much? I've been ghosting.

SPEAKER_05 51:54

You told us that. Women were fine until men taught them how to ghost, until men taught them how to cheat, until men taught them how to hit and run. Until men started hitting and running. Women in this generation are hitting and running.

SPEAKER_06 52:11

Guys, do you see how she's gaslighting you guys right now?

SPEAKER_05 52:14

No, it's guys. Everything that's wrong is guys. Everything that's right is women.

SPEAKER_03 52:20

Listen, let's start. Let's listen. Let's be biblical about it. Who gave the apple? I don't know the Bible.

SPEAKER_06 52:27

This discussion is already in the apple. First, who ate the apple? Who took her to where the apple was located?

SPEAKER_05 52:37

It's always been a man's fault. She could have chilled someone else. But no, Adam was like, let's go. Okay. She came across the apple. It's always the man's fault. Okay. I'm joking. I'm joking. No, I'm joking. It could be anyone's fault. The man named Sinichuke. Maybe I'm I'm a man, man's girl.

SPEAKER_03 52:57

Man's girl?

SPEAKER_05 52:59

Can't say girl's girls.

SPEAKER_03 53:01

Alright, all right, all right. The last one. Alright, the last one. Pretended to be busy just to avoid people. Easy or not easy?

SPEAKER_05 53:09

T.

SPEAKER_03 53:10

I feel like you do that all the time.

SPEAKER_05 53:11

Me? Yes. Yes, you're right. Yeah, you no, I don't pretend to be busy. I just like there's I have my own I am very busy, but then at some point, like when I'm having a social normal life, I really want time to myself. If it's not sitting by myself, then at least thinking by myself. Yeah. I feel like that's how I recharge. And then when I go to public places and people want to talk to me, I don't like it. I want to say hi. I don't like it. Yeah, I wanna say hi. I wanna unless I really like that that vibe or whatever, or unless I really know you. Like if it's a stranger that I'm starting, because I listen, guys, I'm a host, I'm a radio presenter, I'm a TV presenter. All I do is talk. Basically. So if I'm outside my job, I wanna stop talking and just chill and join the beat. Yes. This is maybe for someone else who's dealing with their laptops at work or doing stuff, computer nini nini, I wanna find your kazini ngine, then I kick your waki talk about die kazini, and a ta kuchil kupiga story. Mimi kazia, nguni kupiga story. Kayyo, it's not I don't mean it in a bad way, but like I struggle. If at some time, sometimes, sometimes sometimes fresh to ka vibe. Like sometimes when you come say hi to me and then you wanna talk to me after I had a long day, after I was on radio for four hours and probably shooting some stuff in the room, whatever. Women's talk, me and my brain. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 54:53

I like how you you make time for yourself. I don't know that came because you don't have you you realize combat make time for myself, I won't get time for myself. I feel like you have that. Like when you explain to me, like, oh, weekends are mine.

SPEAKER_05 55:07

Yes, like I do not have to do. Weekends are mine, yes. I like that. I don't I don't do nothing. I try my best unless it's something that pays me. But if it's something that doesn't pay me on a weekend, I try my best not to do it. Because I I kept weekends for myself and I kept evenings for myself. You know, I've most of the time.

SPEAKER_03 55:24

Yeah, yeah. I've come to realize something about myself. I don't know if it's bad, you tell me. Uh you be the judge of it. Uh, I realize I'm a workaholic. Like I've come to realize I don't know if that's a bad thing or good. That's a good thing. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_05 55:37

You're in the right age to be a workaholic.

SPEAKER_03 55:41

I was in literally telling buddy, I like I'm so glad I have shit to do. Like, you know how many people that are young and and not doing anything?

SPEAKER_05 55:49

You know the the the goal about that and the the even bigger goal is you have shit to do that you created. You have an opportunity that you created, and it's growing into becoming something enormous and something really, really huge, and that's amazing. And I think in this lifetime, especially when you're young, that's the time to be a workaholic, I swear to you. Because in your uh 19s, 18s, 19s, and paka four mpaka forties up, mpaka 30s, forties, eh? Umbaka wiki at least 30s. Una iza kidoganza, closing up. Like wa hapo katikati apo, um kufanyakazi mkua. Kunam to napenda babu mjinga. Oye kuna unono ko ya familia u kidia kuna anko nam nyomba. Oh, taka wiam djomba. Unka mnumba. Anko wwakshu, mku unko na air, unk on a pull up na dare mono rich aunty, na shangazi. Oh, na wa shangazi ni nini. Eh, kuna aunty na mamdog. Oh, kependakwa mamdog a panna. Una hassle so that you create. I feel like that's the right age to create financial freedom. And I feel like if you're not so on about what you're doing, you're never gonna make it. It's okay to be a workaholic at a certain age, because a babu tengeza manze. When you're in your 30s, in your mid-30s, let's say 36, 37, 40s uko. Umbo to go wako wako. Sindio, you know, time forty-five. Like, of course, time na takenza na mungo. Lakini ki kuna time itafika mba tako travel the world. You wanna make your own decisions, you know. Listen, you can't live your whole life. Umaishi bakomifika meakam sina foto nkupangia ma isha. Okay, na ukya at 50s napangywaisha weze I mean. Mama, we can yumbani. Lakini ukyo na hela umrihu o kompeleni. Hakuna mtona kupangea maisha, you can actually choose what you wanna do. So, these are the years, Sean, to create financial freedom. Sure. Iliba dae, ah, wait. You know, speaking. What? You're late.

SPEAKER_00 58:13

Hey gang, don't go anywhere just yet. We still got more of the No Trolling podcast coming out.

SPEAKER_05 58:25

You need to stop acting like old money. You need to stop wearing old money.

SPEAKER_03 58:29

What? Yes. Why are you trying to why are you trying to hate on my outfit right now?

SPEAKER_05 58:33

Because you're acting old.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

What do you mean I'm acting old?

SPEAKER_05 58:36

I mean, look at you. Anakwaslo. Your cameraman agrees. Jordan agrees.

SPEAKER_02 58:42

Fuck you, Jordan.

SPEAKER_05 58:43

So this is what happened, right? You had something on your phone. Yes. And you wanted to transfer, you just had you wanted to airdrop it to Jordan's phone. Yes. And then you were rushing, going like, oh, my phone's going off. My phone's going off. And then he literally was like, just take a picture. You were panicking outside. My phone's going off. I was in panic.

SPEAKER_03 59:02

What do you mean I was panicking? No, you were just like, my phone's going off. No, no, the issue, I couldn't take even a photo because the phone kept switching off.

SPEAKER_05 59:10

It didn't switch off at that time. No, it you kept saying it's it's about to go off, it's about to go off until it went off. And then I told them, you know what? Hold up, but he said it's gonna start dressing up like old money. I didn't know he was gonna become old.

SPEAKER_03 59:24

Mina, Mina. Even if I didn't take a screenshot, if I sent it, I I should open my daddy, right? When I open my dad, it's gonna I don't care.

SPEAKER_05 59:32

You actually know you're okay. How are you? You literally went to the city. So all you are right now. Yes, we are. Umenda ukota chaj. You didn't ask. No, but you can't. Thank you. Wow. Jordan agrees.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

Okay. Jordan will do anything for a show.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:01

Episode denial. What? Jordan will do anything for what?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

Jordan agrees with a show.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:08

No, no. Jordan. Jordan's just right. Oh yeah? That's it. Okay, back to I uh wait. Kwanziya next week, Shona vai nyzi. Masha Migim now Angaliya, Shona Vai Nzi. Akifaka mabize, and akwakwali kama mze. Akingeo mundana after chaja masama tatu. What else? What should I tell them? Adafter Chaja Masama Tatu, and Ambiya piggyo pizza, sim cabla idea zima simia ku in a zima. But he's not looking like old money, he's looking old. I'm joking. I'm joking, it's all in the drinking gave me before this thing started dancing.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

Mina, Mina, you're studying violence. You're choosing violence.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:59

Samani mwaya. Samani mwaya. Akani karafki kangu kazungu. Savana gekapang. Sema kwali sister. Savanna rayso fastem ya. So shon nimzungu. Akani karafki kangu, kazungu. Kenye akana shida. Kashon. Kako ambitious, kanapambana, mukasapoti. Please. Mukongeze numbers, please. Nabini kakue na kaka podcast kaika kuba.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:30

Kuninu wiki kakao.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:31

Kubo. Kaza wka podcast nika kuba taari. Kazi ni kwa kakakuba. The guy is humble. Anashida na mtu. Kwayo, please share. Chikwai to miya rafkiago to miya koambe. This guy has to go. International world has to know about Sean.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:46

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:46

Because Sean is a good guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:48

Fuck is he talking about?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:49

Nah man.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

Nah, I mean. Like a lot of a lot of people uh also tell me like I'm an old soul. Like I have that habit of I told you that too. Oh, yeah, I remember. Like, and and now it's confused that I like all the women. It's not like, guys, I just have I have this what do you say? What did you say?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:09

I'm saying that camera is really, really nice.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:12

Very where did you buy it? Men noapi Kamera. Kamera and Zoom.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

Guys, is it Kamares and we talk of Pentagon Rentals? Shout out to the people who helped this podcast happen. You know what I'm saying? Pentagon. Pentagon Rentals. These are the people who keep this podcast alive, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:27

They're on point. The cameras are on point.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:30

Pentagon, you anoma sana. The cameras are on point. And uh your guys, your team, Jordan, and uh I didn't catch his name. Yeah. Rocky. Our normal. Noma San. Wakali Kichi man. Controlling entertainment. Yeah, our official ma. You know, they're officially part of my company. Nice. Yeah. Umona Ajama. Wangesakulala nyumban, Spanyekazi wa Lala Mike.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:53

What I love, what I love about the game. Well, I think that team, right? Well, what I love about them is like they love the game as much as I do.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:58

And that's that's what you need to find in life. People that are as passionate as you. Yeah. Dang, you make a team.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:06

You know, um I've come to realize something about myself.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:11

But you do like older women, Sean.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

What do you mean? I just it's not like I decide, okay, all the women I want you.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:19

Why are you shattering?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:21

Because I'm trying to explain.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:23

You don't have to think when you're not lying. It comes naturally. I'm not lying. Okay. Do you like all the women, Sean? Shit. It does, it really does. Because this is looking for lie.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:49

Mina, Mina, skier. Come on, Nani. Skia, Mina. Discleasing.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:53

Okay, listen. Alright. When you were growing up, is there any artist that you loved that you're like this, my wifey kind of thing?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:00

No, I feel like I was just hopping on a trend. I didn't really mean it. You didn't on who? Like I said, Selena Gomez, I think. Selina Gomez. Yeah, like at the time.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:10

He likes older women. Selena is older than you.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:14

And I sender. I just ha I just hug.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:18

You liked Selena Gomez, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

No, no, no. I used to. That was when I was a kid primary.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:30

Sita ku judge.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:31

I'm not yeah, I don't worry about that.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:34

Most the Unapenda opened. Let me explain. Big mammas. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:41

Mumamaya Harya. Mumamaya Harya.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:46

When you say older women, what comes to your mind?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:49

Women that are older than you.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:50

Why are you putting it as if they're sugar mamas now?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:54

Mumamaya Harya is just part of them. Like some of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:58

No. I've never been with Mumama Haria.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:00

Because that one person I know now be on a crush nine. And I and I'll Mumamaya Haria.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:07

What are you hearing out there? Mumama waharia out there.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:20

The issue is I'm trying to find an intermediate way of saying it.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:24

Okay, let's go.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:24

Because most of the women I've been are apparently older than me. Not not been with even in the relate one in the one relationship I've had, the woman was older than me, a little bit. Not old like 10 years, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:39

So see your mumama waharia. Listen, Mina. I just I talk to young girls of like younger. Listen, you're not going to be able to. You're not gonna let me win.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:04

Your ex ni mumma and in my ex? Did she have a ride? I st car something, no? I'm not gonna talk about that. Boda boda. I'll go to panda picky feet like in this sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:23

I'm sure I'm bandy.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:25

Aharia baba.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:31

Mumama wagariya wazas. You know what? Midnight's not gonna let me run.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:36

You're just gonna drop it. Okay, midnight. Talk about me. I'm gonna help you. Okay. I'm gonna help you get to that. Well, what do you mean help me? Get one.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:44

See what mama and your judgment and this amount of crush night.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:47

You be. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:56

I'm sorry, Sean. I'm joking. Alright, we're we're finishing this. I know you're editing this. Don't cut this off.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:06

I'm gonna kill you. I don't cut this off.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:12

Alright, we're going to the last segment. So this last segment in A2 no trolling questions. So we have a cash phrase in the show where we say no trolling, don't sweat it. So no trolling? Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:23

Don't sweat it. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:24

Don't sweat it. Okay. So when I ask you a question, if you remember, just say don't sweat it, then respond.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:28

Are you going to remember?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:29

I'll I'll try.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:30

You'll try. Okay. Is it toxic for your partner or to test your partner to see if or to see how they would react to something? No trolling.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:40

Don't sweat it. Of course it is. Yeah. Why are you testing people? If you love, you just love. You trust. Why are you testing first of all? Testing is stupid, it's it's childish. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:54

Right?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:54

If you didn't want to be there, don't be there.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:56

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:56

Why are you testing people with shit? Just be yourself in this thing, right? And give a person a chance to be themselves. If you're testing them frequently, then they think you're a child, then they wouldn't be invested in you. Because they're like, ah, who him total die.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:11

So I feel like if you look for something in some money, you're gonna find it. Yeah. You will? You will find it. If you look, if you look into finding your partner, you can't. Because the universe will respond just like algorithms on Instagram, the universe will say, Ha, Una Umba, is it valid if a man asks a woman what they bring to the table, no trolling? Is it a is it valid? Ask a woman what they bring on the table, no trolling.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:46

Don't sweat it. I think it's fine, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:49

Yes, because if a man has to bring something to the table, a woman has to bring something to the table as well. I mean, of course you've gotta be treated right, of course, you've got to uh as a woman in a relationship, uh of course this man's gotta, you know, do stuff for you right, and you have high expectations of what of what a good man looks like and acts like, but I think you've got uh uh a part as well, you need to build your man. Because there are things that are originally not created in men that women add as soon as they are in their lives, right? So there are things that uh complete a man that are in a woman, so it's not a man's duty to be the only one that brings something to the table.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:45

I was literally sorry to cutting you off, but I was literally in debating with uh T Bai and Ananyangi, and I was telling them that I believe a woman completes a man, and they're like, Sean, you're slow. I mean, you won't get evil. I'm like, guys, come on, man. Let's not.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:01

A woman, a woman completes a man. Absolutely. Yeah, when a man comes like a man's gotta bring respect to the table. He's got to respect you, yeah, he's got to work hard for himself and for you. And he's got to uh, of course, love you right. And all of these other pressures that we put on men, which they've gotta do like into Nambiya as a man, no mona muzakuali leta flowers, as a man. Like in your women, we have this mistake of thinking that it's all about the man. As a woman, what are you bringing to the table? Can you build this man? Because no man comes righteous. Ata kunyye ndoa, konye urafunye konye girlfriend, boyfriend, mwanaomi ezi kuya complete mku. Una mfundisha baza vito. Nasio kun fundisha kumwonesha njia kumba. Okay, this is nice. I appreciate this. Lakini, o kifanya na hiki, ni jambo ambalul tanfurahisha. Okifanya na hiki ni nyambo zuri. Kuna nando mano na kuta there's uh relationships where uh when before a man gets into that relationship, anakwaka waida, but as soon as they get into that relationship, then they're successful. And you're thinking, oh, in the past few years this person's been very successful. It's because they're matching energy with their partner, right? And it's because that woman is doing one thing right, uh, building that man, giving him confidence. So before a man gets out of the house, he depends to get his confidence from you. Men like to be told nice things because the world is hard on them. Whenever you get out there as a man, nakutana nakilakito, boss is angry, blah, blah, blah is going on. You know what I'm saying? Uh, umeda barabatan mefaka zingumu, nakutana na changamoto, a lot of challenges. And you're thinking, you know, I'm gonna do this for my family, I'm gonna do this for that woman, Nyubani, and I'm gonna be able to do a tena akiruni na nya. I was a kani. So yitahidi, uh, hata kidogo, basi ilengufu, ila confidence, yakupambana, you give to that guy. That's what you should bring to the table. Tell this person, I understand you're hustling, I understand you're working really hard, but at the end of the day, you mean everything to me, and I'm proud of you. Tell men need to hear the statements, right? People expect so much from men, but they don't build men. Men need to hear, I'm so proud of you. You do this really, really right. Now, Pandahi, t-shirt to kiva, you look amazing, right? They might brush it off and act like it doesn't matter, it does, because they're gonna remember this exactly for the rest of the day. So when you expect a man to bring something to the table, you've gotta ask yourself, are you okay enough to also bring something to the table? You have the obligation to build that man so he can act right, you have the obligation to uh build that man so he can go and fetch for the future of you two.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:02

Yeah, there's nothing so satisfying as knowing your partner really likes you. Like they really enjoy being around you. That I feel like that's one of the best feelings to have as a person, and everybody should experience it once in a while.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:18

Once in a while, yeah, you know, uh, life is really short, I swear. And I pray that everybody gets to be loved correctly, at least once in their lives. Yeah, you know. Uh I pray that whoever's watching this gets to be loved correctly, to love and be loved in return. It's the most special gift ever. And you know what? Do not waste your time in the wrong relationship, do not waste your time with someone that you're assured, Kabisa, they don't love you and you're hanging in there. Do not hang in there. There's someone in this world that's meant for everyone, for a lot of people, right? In Islam, we believe that it's already written, when I say my Kabisa, it's written in the stars, it's already written that this Mina, this is the person you're gonna be with. So do not waste your time on the wrong relationship. Do not shrink yourself to fit somebody's box. Do not be in a relationship because you're you're holding on because it's gonna be different tomorrow, because it's gonna work out, because you're taking time from the perfect relationship you're supposed to have, right? Someone out there can love you correctly. Please do not shrink yourself. Please do not be in a relationship that's abusive. Please do not be in a relationship. And all this energy, imagine how you're spending all this time wasting your energy, your energy on someone that doesn't like you. You could use that same energy with someone that loves you right. And you can trust me that that person is. Some people found love after two kids. Some people found love in high school and stuck with it. You know, some people find love in their 50s, in their 60s, and whatever. Like in it, at the end of the day, there's always a person for everyone. Do not waste your time in the wrong relationship. You'd rather not have a relationship than be in the wrong relationship. There's someone out there that's right for you. Young girls, young boys, wanaume, wanawake, wa twa zima pia, uh, kunamtu atakupenda sahihi. Yupo, best believe. Alisha andikwa kwili ako mku, usikaye konyeyo mausiano. Kiuna piaa konye mauseanu mekao, nanza upigia tu simu a chana nawi a chana nawe mku, amna kunyishusha kwa mwamke zaidia you. Yani fore woman hakuna kunyishusha, zydi akupigya sim wwanamke mwenzio, kumwambia. Oya, nini ehe, let's talk woman tuman, woman to woman myas. Acha wujinka mku. Ayani wanaumea pigani. Ukiona wnapiganiya, you're in the wrong position. Ukiyona inabidi upigia sim wanam kemwenzako badala kukana mwana umewaku mkawongea, you'o in the wrong relationship, my guy. So, mwana umbe haibwi. Kabisi ehe, koyo, hakikisha mwjikuta kwany maousianu mbayo ni sahi, nakama sisa hihi kwa ko ni mutual. Yes, una chiohisi, una isi wumtu wanahisi. Una pukwenda safari ako na isi wum tuna eye yu poko kye safari yo yo moja nawewe anatamani kufika pia. Mkika mki piga stories a future, mpoko e maosiana, mkipiga stori kambasku moja na taka iki. Isi na mtu mbaya uki mskiniza naya na semaha, uksapata iko, tutafanya iki, tu tafanya kile. Una wona gabisa wum djomba. Ana onkelea future yetu. Niki ongelea future anasapoti. Ilo na kutana mtu mbaya uki tanya future tu anahama. Topik. Lagi mbado uko abo mkunafua ma jinzi. Nauna he na pika kila nyumapili, acha yo mambom kukuku na mtuambai amekusudiwa, kukupenda, konya ma isha. Na na na yupo, na yupo, na mungwa ezi kukutupa. Kabiani ata kupa wakwako. So, una eza kwa kwe mao siano na mtuambay sewa kwako. Ki nyikuto kwociana na mtuambay sowa kwako, useo gope kondoka, ita umuwa wiki akwanza, ita uma wiki apili, ya tatu, ya nota ykuto na cheka wana fura. It's gonna be okay. Do yourself justice. Love yourself enough to do yourself justice. Yes, put yourself first. Have you ever hated somebody naturally? Hated? Yeah. No. Never? No, uh not hatred. I feel like hatred takes too much effort.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:44

Yeah, right. I can't hate energy, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:47

I can't hate. I can mute.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:50

Right? I've muted people. The same way I mute people, my WhatsApp statuses. I could I have muted people, right? I'd have this thing. Listen, I've always been chasing after my goals and my dreams, right? There's a lot of distractions in the middle.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:07

But I knew where I wanted to be and in what time. And whatever distraction I faced, I decided to mute it. I tried so hard. It's not like I'm not gonna deal with it. It's not like it's not hurting me. It's more like I will deal with you later, right? Yeah, I just keep it aside. Like in your cousin Domia, because I'm just human. But whenever I move, I just don't give it too much energy because I need that energy for my success. I need that energy for my career. So I try so hard to just be like, you know, uh, I'll deal with you later. And according to my brother, this is one of the things that made me uh reach to these heights in my career. The fact that I was able to mute some bullshit on the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:51

You know, one thing that has helped me that I've learned this year is how to place people in your life. First, two lessons I've learned this year was uh I've been learning this since I started the show. Uh don't take shit personal. And uh this year was knowing how to place people in your life. You don't need to cut people off. You know, you you don't need to start bad blurred and start hating niggas like, oh, fuck you, I hate you, da da da. Some niggas deserve, but you don't have to, you know, like make it all about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:23

You know, like if you're spending so much energy, it means these people are taking over your life. They matter the little thing. Rent-free in your head.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:31

Yeah, don't let people, don't let people do that. And the thing is, when you learn how to place people in your life, you know, come back, oh, when a matter sim flan, oh, and a matter sim flan, and so she don't. You not everybody needs to be your close friend. Not everybody needs to be a close friend. When I learned that, also the people pleasing I told you earlier, yeah. When I learned that, that started phasing. I started caring more about just, you know, things that matter. And yeah, we just move on regardless.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:59

Yeah. And sahi kwako, wawe nini kwako, bina dam ni bi nadam. You can uh take uh kilamtu naikuta nana nae, there can be something you walk with uh to your future or neza kawa tuambo nelea na ukuna isha la kini pia naizakawa lesson. Uh, kunawatu wambona kakuta nawa kakufanya vi baya sana. Na kukufanya vi bayakwa, kukawa ukumbu showako wawe lessu. Ukuishi vizuri. Yes. Lakini pia kunaatu doktorana wata ku discourage, weziutafanya. Nata kua sababuya wewe kufanya vizuri zaini. Kuwe wata ku motivate kufai vizuri zaini. Ila sio kila mtu naikutananae, anata kiwa ishi, kuni my sha, kuna kaya po fore. Kama mbabu mesema. Ya nini ni vizuri kuchuja watu. Naso kila mtu na staili kuapu. You are who you hang out with, you know. So, if you're if you're gonna hang out with someone, just make sure they're really, really cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:57

Yeah, they they re they elevate you or elevate your brand as and you'd rather be alone.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:14

For real.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:14

How do you deal with your stress?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:17

Well, uh, how I deal with my stress. Well, first of all, listen, this is the part where uh God really comes in if you believe in him. Yeah, right? Uh first of all, I run to God. Right? I have prayers where I say, God, make me feel better. Literally, God, I am not feeling okay, make me feel better. God, it's a tough day, I don't know how I'm gonna do it. Make it easier. And the next thing you know, you've forgotten about your problems until the end of the day. Right? So, first of all, God listens, God talks to you, right, all the time. He'll not speak, but he talks to you in the way that you feel, right? You'll have a problem and you'll complain to God in one minute, the next minute you're not thinking about it, right? That's God acting. So at the end of the day, first thing first for me is God. Right? Second is to find at least one trusted person to share with. So I can hear a different point of view and perspective. Yes. Some people do not have people to share with. Lakini, in your life, if it's your family, if it's your mother, your brother, or whoever, Lakini, find one person you can count on who will hear you out, who will not want to take advantage of you, or who would not want to go around tell you telling your problems. Find at least one person and buy Naeza Kumami.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:46

How how would you describe your relationship with God like if you to explain it to somebody?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:54

So in Islam, right? W when we were growing up, we were learning about this thing about I I don't know if it's true, but yeah, something about ukilala, uh, nafsiako in a toko sequ and then when you wake up, it's given back to you.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:09

Oh damn.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:10

Yes. Or basically the fact that when you sleep, your breath, you're still breathing, but you're not literally there. Yeah. But in the morning, it has to be brought back so you can wake up, right? So once I asked my friends, I asked them if I gave you the task to call me and wake me up every morning for my whole life, would you be able to do it every day? I'm asking you that now. If I gave you a task to for my whole life, wake me up every single morning, call me every morning to say, Wake up. Can you do it? As a human, there's some days you'll miss, right? But you see, when you sleep, your soul goes, and God brings it back to you every morning, and He doesn't forget you. And there's millions of you, and there are some that don't wake up, right? But you have your breast back in the morning. You wake up every single day. This is a task that if you gave any human, they would not be able to do. What love is bigger than that, Sean? What love is bigger than what wakes you up in the morning in times where some people are not waking up, but you have your breast every morning.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:26

That's a blessing right there.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:27

That's a blessing. What is is is more what what I don't know, that's love to me. That's that's the love of God to me. You know, I'm not very, I'm not gonna sit down and be judgmental. I'm not very re uh religious, you know, but I do believe that there's a first for me, and that's who created me, that's who brought me here. And so I I have to talk to him. Every day, every day, every time. You know, I'm entering this this interview, I'm talking to him. I'm telling him, Yeah, Allah, God help me. I want to have it easy, you know. I'm in a little pressure, I'm talking to him. I want to talk to someone, I don't know how to do it. I'm talking to him, you know. Sometimes I'm very talkative, but I do come across a lot of times where I can put words in my mouth, I can't explain myself. I ask him to make it easier. I just try to be as close as possible, right? Uh, and and just try to be closer to him, you know, because uh who else, if and it's only him that wakes me up every morning, gives me my breath back. Absolutely. And that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:32

So Yeah, before I let you go, Mina, yeah, I want to know how do you like being loved and or how do you like to receive love in no trouble?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:42

Okay, I think the first thing is uh to be understood. Yes, I want to be understood. I know it's tough. I'm always waking up with new ideas, I'm waking up with new things I can do. Um I dream the impossible at times. It's hard for a normal mind to to understand me. But I want them to try. And I'm tough on the other side on the outside. Yeah, but I'd like to believe I'm really soft on the inside, and that the toughness is really just a block that I had a protection that I had to build growing up because of whatever I went through. Right, but if you act right, you might come across the the soft one, uh the soft side in you in me, and uh and she's beautiful, she's loving. Um there's one thing that I didn't mention earlier. I like to be loved by uh a nice human. I'm really attracted by nice human beings. I'm really attracted by humans that are humans, you know what I mean? Like um one of uh my greatest lessons, one of the one of the things that I carry so uh strongly is integrity, right? I believe that every achievement I get is because of integrity. It's because of the fact that I do I try my best to do good. And I like people that try their best to do good in this crazy world, at least be the one good person. Integrity is doing the right thing whether you're being washed or not washed, right? So if I'm going to the shop, a lafu, I mean the Zia change, they give me more than I should get back because I won't best believe I'll bring that money back, right? Uh if I and when I was young, my dad told me about this a lot. We put a simu at one point, and we went looking for the person. Wow. Right? And I just tried to do the right thing. I just tried to be a nice human. If I see something, a situation, and I can help, I help. I'm genuine. If I I can help with money, I'll help with money. If I can Help with advice because I do come across people that don't actually need money. They need you to talk to them. They feel like they need money. But if you listen to them, you're like, bro, you already have the money. Just put your brains right and go do this job and whatever, right? So I just want to be a good human in this world where everybody is chasing after money, everybody is looking at uh being famous, everybody's looking at whatever they're looking at, you know. I I want to be a good human and I'm attracted by good humans, and I want them to know that you're making this world a better place to live. It doesn't matter where you do some act of kindness or to who, but you're making the world better because you did something that's kind. I like to be loved with a kind person. I'm attracted when I see someone uh, you know, acting kind to people or doing a kind thing to people. We go through so much as human beings. We are just we don't make a choice to be here. You just wake up and you're born. You're born. Exactly, and you've got to face the world, you know what I'm saying? And um, some people find themselves in these type of families, you know. Some people have rich parents, some people don't have parents at all.

unknown 1:29:15

True.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:15

You know what I mean? And but you've gotta live, you've got to become. Yes. You get every person you meet is going through something that they're not saying about. And something you say to them or do has an impact on what they're gonna be. I came across a policeman one time who stopped me on the road and I just opened it like you said, and I smiled, and this guy giggled, right? Yeah, and he just said, At a sitaki kongana we sana, me smile many furahisha. You get? Uh you don't know who your police are meyamka. You put a smaller. Yes. I come across people that reach out to me and say, There's something you said a couple of years ago, and I followed it. And I want you to know this is your success right here, right? I met uh sorry, Huyum Wimbadiwa uh gospel Obi Alpha, right? Obi Alpha is uh he's a gospel artist, right? I in my head, I've never met him my own my whole life, right? But apparently he came to audition for Bongo Stash in Baya a couple of years ago, where I was hosting, right? And I came outside, he he tells me this story, and I remember it. I came outside and there was a bunch of people that were auditioning, and I told them, listen, at the end of the day, this thing nibahatti, right? You might be the best singer, but you're not you might not be in the right mood to do it when you come in. You might be shaky, you know, you're worried.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:48

Or you waited too long.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:49

Yes, or you waited too long and you might not get through. But I want you to know that life doesn't stop here. It only starts. It shows that if you've done one action to go to an audition about your music, that means you can do something, right? So when I said this, this guy, Obi Alpha, Sindio, he was so worried and he was outside, he was listening. I didn't know who he was. He went inside and he said whatever I said gave him confidence, and he went inside and he performed and he didn't go through, but he remembered what I said that it doesn't end there, it only starts. And he went hustling, and today he's one of the biggest gospel artists in the country. Yes. So this is what happened when you say kind words. This is what happens when whatever chance you get, you make people feel good about themselves. Positivity. Positivity, you see the good in people, right? Yes, and uh somebody, I have somebody that argues with me about the fact that I don't like seeing the bad in people and that I miss it because I'm always seeing the good in people. But you know what? It's important. It's important that no matter how bad someone is, that there are people in this life that see good. Okay? So whatever action you take, whatever thing you do, you don't know who's watching. You don't know who's watching, you don't know who's learning. Be kind. I met a girl uh uh a couple of months ago who came, uh she's a dancer, blah, blah, blah. And I listened to her and I realized she didn't need to dance or or to be in somebody's crew or whatever. Yeah, no, she needed to be okay, right? Her soul was not fine. She needed someone to tell her things. So I stood with her aside. What do you have? What are you doing now? She basically just needed someone to hear her out, right? She was looking for some people look for someone just to hear them. Some people look for someone just to say something nice. It doesn't matter where you are, you're on TV, you're on radio, um to build people up, be a nice person and be confident that this world is a better place to live because you exist.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:07

Beautiful. I feel like that's the best way to end the show. Come on. Come on. If you haven't subscribed, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:15

I I like when you say that, by the way. Come on, come on, okay, Nina, come on, come on. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:24

It was beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:25

Thank you. You're you're a beautiful human, and I really wanted to make sure I tell you that. And I've told my best friend after after we spoke that you're a really, really good human, you know, and a hustler, and you're really working hard for whatever it is that you're doing. And you know, I hope that from this podcast a lot of people build themselves, learn a thing or two. For sure. Yeah, and uh, I hope that a lot of people get to dream because you lived. And thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:57

Until next time, guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:59

Bye.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:59

Peace out.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:01

Oh my God.